BR - Point Winding

[@ssbohio]

This was a time when "Powerpoints" meant something useful, rather than the bane of every meeting.

[@BritishTrainspotting]

Any idea on how I can find the source of the full music track from the beginning of this video, and perhaps other BR videos?

[@JSSStudios]

I only know one track - The music at the start of the video about Provincial's modified Class 155 Sprinters is Final Signal by Space. As for this video, I don't know.

[@MannyAntipov]

News Team Presents - Bosworth Backgrounds

[@jackx4311]

This video is useful; we have a Clamp-Lock motor point at Church Lane Signal Box on Peak Railway. Re. the question on getting a release from the Signalman; the way our system is set up, once the Pointsman switches from 'Power' to 'Manual', that isolates the point motor from the controlling lever in the Signal Box. When they want to revert to power operation again, the Signalman tells the Pointsman whether the lever is normal or reversed, and the Pointsman sets the motor point to match that setting before switching back from 'Manual' to 'Power'.

[@davecook3840]

Wrong label on the telephone in the points cabinet there. Should of been a black St Andrews cross. Chevrons only for Signal Post Telephones.

[@ssbohio]

The one at 6:55 bears the saltire (St. Andrew's Cross). Is there another one you saw?

[@davecook3840]

ssbohio at 1:07 He’s using a acceptance switch as well for some reason

[@ssbohio]

@@davecook3840 I've never seen that arrangement before, but it almost looks like the signaller has to authorize release of the points winding handle, as the "receptacle" for it appears wired into the signal post telephone. I don't know, however, having not seen that arrangement before. Perhaps that phone is considered an SPT because it's tied in to the signalling system to allow releasing the points winding handle. Again, I don't know, so this is all speculation.

[@davecook3840]

ssbohio it’s a acceptance switch which would be used at the entrance to a siding or maybe a single line of some sort. Not really anything to do with winding points as that is done when powered points have failed. You would expect him to speak to the Signaller, press the acceptance then swing the points with a hand lever or ground frame. It’s just caught in the video somehow. The SPT cable just runs that way I expect or may use a pair out of the Signalling cable attached to the switch to get back to the Telephone Concentrator in the Signal Box. All telephones associated with a Signals are marked with Chevrons (bottom left to top right) other trackside telephones (points telephones etc like this one) are marked with St Andrews Cross, trackside dial phones are marked with a black handset on white background, Emergency Telephones are marked with a green Label and Electrification Telephones a red one. All are getting pretty rare now as advances in Cab Radio and mobile Comms make them all rarely used. There is a big drive on to eradicate SPT’s entirely but there is legislation to cover it and hopefully they will stay from a safety perspective.

[@ssbohio]

@@davecook3840 OK, I think I see what you mean. What do you make of the points winding handle in the same enclosure as the telephone? And the apparatus to which it's attached? If the switch points were moved by an attached lever or ground frame, what would the handle be used for? And what does the thing to which it's fitted do? My understanding is that the handle is used to hand operate a power-operated set of points. To me, not knowing the specifics of the technology in use, it seems like he's depressing the button, contacting the signaller, waiting a moment, then taking the handle out of its "home" inside the enclosure. But, I'm not well-versed on British railway technology, so all I have is observation and deduction, not exact knowledge