Brad Jersak - The Gospel in Chairs - Session 1 (FGC 2016)

[@rodfriesen4370]

As I deconstructed, I struggled to know what the Gospel was anymore honestly. Brennan Manning also helped me find the way again too. "God loves you exactly as you are, and not as you should be, for we'll never be as we should be. " Thanks Brad.

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

Brennan helped me so much to see the true nature of Jesus. Very grateful for him.

[@JesusIsAboveAllOtherNames]

Amen. There can be absolutely no fear in love, because PERFECT LOVE , (in other words, Love without end), does not cause fear. I'm starting to listen to these messages because I lost faith years ago after being taught a condemning message that messed my heart up for so many years. They kept telling me that if I didn't have demons cast out of me, repent of my sins and basically stop sinning that God would torture me in Hell forever. Not only did it cause me to hate the church, but it caused me to hate God. I stopped reading my Bible, stop fellowshipping, and even stopped praying for the most part. Whenever I first heard the message I think I knew deep down it wasn't right, but there is something so intriguing about it that I couldn't keep from it because of the fear they was attached to it. Because of the fear I ended up spiraling downward into this place of condemnation, then anger toward God, then I realized many people who call themselves believers werer invading my personal privacy in my home. These people call themselves Christians, and I just can't imagine somebody walking in God's love doing that to a person. I'm damaged for life.

[@jaysonszymaszek-healingwit2180]

This is my favorite sermon - I am not exaggerating when I say I have listened to it at least a hundred times (no exaggeration) and shared it an equal number of times...

[@jasonnowland5652]

I have listened to this 5 times and shared with many! This is life changing about The Father being unchanging and for us and NOT forced to punish us. Changes the way you see the heart of The Father. If you see Jesus, you've seen the Father. Anything that contradicts the character of Jesus is NOT The Father. Thank you!

[@1daddyDA]

The Hound of Heaven. My experience EXACTLY. Even now he NEVER gives up. I’m in my mid sixties, lots of sins, one divorce, two grown up Sons, second Marriage (deeply in love), back sliding, falling away, heart attack, Diabetes, nearly died, betakle health issues, addiction issues but He’s still there and I am joyfully captured by his everlasting love, held in his mercy, renewed in his forgiveness and following Jesus my Saviour just the same as I can not even remember when. Bless you and thanks. Tony and Sharon Norfolk United Kingdom

[@IrishEddie317]

Not understanding the reasons why God, in His love, does what He does and allows what He allows, I wish I had heard this message 50 years ago instead of the Fundamentalist, God--Is-Mad-At-Everyone-And -Especially-YOU, condemnatory, angry "Gospel" (which it was not). Coming from a dysfunctional family, I gravitated towards this dysfunctional religion which passes itself off as Christianity, when what I needed desperately to hear was exactly what Brad preached in this video - love, love, love, love, LOVE THAT LASTS FOREVER! Love that does not condemn, is not "angry with the wicked every day," love that keeps pursuing and when I fail (and God did I ever fail!!!) would come to me with healing rather than a strap and a beating (which was how the "love of God" was preached in Fundamentalism). I've had two profound experiences listening to Brad....tears this morning and last night, listening to him describe the experience of light of the girl in AA, a profound and deep sense of hunger, but a good sense, in which THIS is what I am longing for with all my heart. Brad, the Orthodox Church is so much richer for your membership in the Body of Christ. Words like this, telling people this love, will change the world. We need to get at it.

[@nyy6674]

A beautiful Gospel! No words can describe this amazing Gospel. Thank you Brad

[@graychristian]

...His mercy endures forever! Hallelujah.

[@lydialiechti2733]

Sooooo good. Sooo true. This is my Jesus

[@frankherbert6476]

I could never reconcile the angry God part...and not until I found Orthodoxy was a loving God treating my sin as a sickness and the Great Physician truly become apparent and the Church truly become a hospital. Gotta be willing to dig and go to uncomfortable places and challenge your thinking and the lense through which you view things.

[@finderwhale6531]

Frank, i had that question many years. Recently i have changed my mind on being angry or doubtful of God's goodness. The reality of man is that all are angry with God...but do not want to admitt it. He is the ruler of all. Job finally admitted he was spouting things too wonderful for him to understand. psalm 131 says my heart is not proud nor are my eyes fixed on things beyond my understanding. but my heart is at peace as a weaned child on its mothers breast...we just don't have to have an answer always...We can live at peace even with unanswered questions...peace.

[@momcat2011]

Such AMAZING Encouragement! THANK YOU!

[@andrechaisson8164]

I so love this presentation of the Gospel. This is so beautifull. I will be sharing this.

[@DaRettei]

This is amazing, more people need to see it!

[@rwayne5616]

The only regret I have is that I can "like" this video only once.

[@lisaquad6333]

Brilliant❣️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😇

[@teresaprice5070]

Amen, I don't want to know a God like that! 😭

[@CRN2412]

The even better news❤

[@mudcreekpottery]

Thank you!

[@Marykguise]

So incredible!! Thank you!!

[@cathyduran150]

Wonderful video. I do believe and have no doubt, He knows all will be found.

[@stefaniamanzella5624]

Thank you so very much for this! What a huge help to my soul!✝️🙏♥️

[@angus10538]

Wow, thank you, so good!

[@byard55]

The Good News is such wonderful news! So well shared. One thing that the Bible says that is different than the last 2 minute conclusion of Brad - the implication that the wicked "forever" are going to be offered Mercy, isn't the way that things wind up in Revelation. Rev. 20:14,15 say there is a second death. Rev. 22:11 says, "Let the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous, still do righteousness" -- There is clearly a TIME of salvation -- the clock of Mercy is on a countdown. God's character of mercy doesn't change. God has taught that there is a "last day" and that is why there is urgency to receive grace.

[@JordanTarant]

SO GOOOOOOD!!!!

[@justmeandmy]

Ok, I'm feeling this. But What about parable of sheep and goats? Some say "Lord Lord did we not (whatever)?" and he says away from me? or In revelation "So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth." ? What about those?

[@therealgoodnews4804]

Shalom Mike. Well, we must look at Scripture in the Light that Yeshua saved all of us, bar none, from sin and death. So knowing this to be true, what could these “judgment” verses mean? They all fit in to His Plan, but in different ways and timing. All men are saved, but only a few early, in this current Age. Most people die in their sins, are not saved here, etc., and have not passed from death to life yet, and so they are DEAD in the Age to come, which lasts 1000 years. But once that coming Age is over, then they will rise from the dead. Much more happens after that but eventually, some are cast into the lake of fire, and die a second time. But then they rise from the dead, and death is the last enemy to be destroyed. So none of those “scary” verses are eternal, but only temporal. The worst judgment for “sin” is the death penalty, but death loses altogether and is totally abolished in the End, and Yeshua Wins. That’s the Gospel. So it’s no problem that the “wicked” are “destroyed”, reduced to ashes, cast into the fire, won’t inherit the “kingdom”, which is “reign or rule” with Him, etc. So they are not chosen to “reign” in Government, but they are the common folks that are reigned over by those He DOES choose to rule.

[@MONSTACHALUPA]

Thank you for your question Mike. As for the parable about sheep and goats in Matthew 25, the Greek word that translates into the English word eternal is more properly translated for the age to come, which is finite and not infinite. Also in the original Greek, the word used does not refer to retributive punishment but for corrective disciplinary action that may be difficult but is ultimately meant to restore someone to the way that they are supposed to be. So Matthew 25 is most properly translated that for people that did not take care of those who needed care they will have to go through a difficult process of becoming more godly people in the coming age. I'm not as familiar with the passage that you're referring to in Revelation but one thing that's often missed is that in chapter 22 all the people that seem to have been thrown into the lake of fire are standing outside of the holy City and it's written, "her gates will never be shut" Scripture is very clear about impending judgment. Romans is also very clear that mercy ultimately triumphs over the judgment. I hope this helps with some of your questions Mike, as the same answers helped me when I have had similar questions.

[@MONSTACHALUPA]

One more thing, in 1st Corinthians and in Mark it's written that we are all going to be salted with fire and that we will all have to pass through the fire and that all the things that are not good about us will be burned up so that what comes out on the other side will be better. I believe that that is referring to a similar kind of a spirit as what Matthew 25 is saying when Jesus is trying to talk about caring for people who are in need.

[@6FigureJam]

I like hearing the after story of the woman at the well … in a way even the part about how she died. Where I’m at with all of this is what I believe doesn’t make it true. Not liking a concept (like hell or sin) doesn’t make it go away if it really exists. What I believe can’t save me if it isn’t true. Your conclusions may have been told to you by God but my accepting your conclusion doesn’t mean you really did hear God. Each of us needs a real encounter with God which is the beginning of knowledge… where we know what we know. I find my biggest struggle is being challenged by what I was taught and unlearning or letting go of what I accepted as the truth. The older I get the more I’m confronted with what doesn’t make sense. Soooo I just seek to know my Creator. Thanks for sharing what you have learned. 🥰

[@bonitasawyer99]

So good! Learning in this new seasons the deeper knowledge of God....love this....thank you!

[@wisconsinwoodsman1987]

Very similar to Steve Robinson’s video. Hopefully you have given him credit.

[@TheWhyGuyChannel]

Even though I didn't agree with your use pertaining to Greek mythology, i.e. "Hades", this in probably the best video about God's love in existence. Good job Brad. I intend to put a link to this video on all my KZbin videos.

[@drpataphysical]

Hades is the word used in the Greek source text. It's the translation of the Hebrew sheol: the realm of the dead. It's Paul who used the Greek word for lack of a better word in Greek

[@TheWhyGuyChannel]

Contrair my good friend. Paul NEVER mentioned hell or hades in all of his 13 letters. You actually believe a Jewish theologian such as Paul, knowing the Jews didn't believe in any form of paganism, would use a pagan word based on Greek mythology? Hardly! You're simply ASSUMING he substituted the word Sheol for hades. Why would a Hebrew speaking Jew do that instead of just saying a place of the dead or Sheol? That doesn't make sense. It's moot anyway, considering the message in this video in by far the best on the topic of God's love, at which you apparently ignored so you could defend what you've been taught about the word hades.@@drpataphysical Yes

[@masio13]

@@TheWhyGuyChannel Paul wrote his letters in Greek, but did not use the word Hades. The word Hades is in the New Testament and the Greek translation of the old testament (the Septuagint or LLX, which is what was used in the early church because few people spoke Hebrew, most people in Palestine in Jesus's day spoke Aramaic and Greek.) 2 Peter even makes reference to Tartarus. There is nothing wrong or contrary to church tradition to use the Greek words.

[@TheWhyGuyChannel]

@@masio13 I get what you're saying, and thank you. It's all moot really, considering there's no such place. My issue is why, and why not correct it rather than making excuses for it? Why continue to promote something that doesn't exist, but only causes confusion? Not only confusion, but actual fear in those who think Hades and hell are one and the same. I guarantee, all those who believe hell is real, consider Hades as the Greek word for the Latin embraced word of hell! Just because on is "technically" right, doesn't mean it's right. I hope that made sense. Also, just because some early church leaders spoke Greek and might have used the word Hades... does this mean they were error free in doing so? Hardly!

[@masio13]

@@TheWhyGuyChannel I think your perspective is a bit anachronistic frankly, but it's ultimately just a word, the sounds we make with our mouths don't matter, it's the meaning that counts.

[@averyadrian1534]

So. Good. I ❤️ this!

[@JoelMKillion]

So good! 😍

[@downsouth100]

Thank you! A number of us who have lived and taught others under the legal model have recently discovered the non sequitur of a loving/pursuing/"engaging in our muck" Father and the disgusted/angry/"I will not communicate with you" God that had been framed from the verses that you mentioned, especially Isaiah 59:1-2. Psalm 22 was a typical Psalm that Jews would lean into in times of distress, but even though the first verse seems negative towards God, the Psalmist arrives at a grateful attitude toward God (Ps 22:22). I see Jesus leaning into this Psalm knowing the outcome of the Psalmist was describing an awesome Father. The imagery of the cross can been seen as framed by the story of Abraham and Isaac in Genesis 22 (Akeidah "The binding of Isaac") where the central moment in a chiasm framed by Abraham answering God "Here I am" in Gen 22:1, 10) - Abraham answers Isaac's call to him when Isaac comes into knowing his dad's full intentions by saying "Here I am, my son" (Gen 22:7). Abraham walked with Isaac, did not turn away - much as I would see as Jesus hung on the cross, his Father not turning away. There will always be tension with other comments made in Scripture....however, as I have gotten older, I feel okay still trying to figure things out-not needing everything spelled out perfectly...thanks again for your teaching!

[@finderwhale6531]

i have heard the real gospel here....reminds one of Robert Farrar Capon and Ken Blue . Real gospel . LORD thank You! very refreshing!

[@arnold2636]

oooo soooo Good! What's the name of that woman with five husband? Can someone writes it for me please?

[@elysificated]

It's the Samaritan woman at the well found in John 4 ❤️

[@arnold2636]

@@elysificated yes i want her name, can someone wrote it for me?

[@jackls210]

Her name isn’t in scripture but he said it’s fatima. Some traditions hold this

[@arnold2636]

@@jackls210 Thankyou for writing it.

[@seraphim95]

St Photina. Not Fatima.

[@Huddie400]

It’s beautiful and I love Brad and this version. But how am I to share this and also explain and account for Noah and the flood? And the genocides of the OT? These are stories about God’s wrath and punishment. What to say about that?

[@Kepi_Kei]

I am no pastor. However, I wondered this myself. I was taught that the reason God told the Israelites to kill all of their enemies, or even killed them himself (Moses with the 10 Commandments and the golden calf) was that God had to keep a bloodline through which He would send Jesus. I don't know why or the holiness of some of them (Rahab was in the timeline) but God wanted Jesus to come through certain people. I guess that is a whole other study.

[@leannemete8264]

Have a look into Peter Enns' work. I've found it really helpful.

[@jonathanmatthews7448]

Good question, I had the same one. A good answer comes from Tremper Longman III in his “Confronting Old Testament Controversies” book. God bless you.

[@frankherbert6476]

Depends on your outlook of looking at the OT through the NT. What one view of the flood is, is a archetype of baptism, such as Naaman the leper. Cleansing. Depends on what you think baptism does. But if Baptism is what the earliest Christians believed which was a cleansing, forgiving sacrament that actually did something. It is a new birth for those who have been created have lost their original form and return to it.

[@davidl.babcock5725]

Keep this firmly in mind: they are just stories, myth (or in many cases conscious remolding of history) as written generations after whatever actualy happened.

[@danwatkins6303]

I love the story of the woman who finds 'freedom' (around 25 minutes in). Wow, this is the good news of our God, told in a refreshing way. And I love it that God runs after us. I just don't know how to marry Brad's gospel to what Jesus says about hell. For example, when Jesus returns as Judge, he says that he will say to some people (See Matt 25:41 and 46): "Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire... And then latter in verse 46, "...these will go away into everlasting punishment". Too me, Jesus is not mincing words. By everlasting perhaps he means what he says. So, I wonder if the Church is in danger of loosing the 'biblical' concept of 'sin' and of 'hell' and of 'judgement' etc. in a reactionary way? By reactionary, I mean that the Church's message may have been too severe in the past, therefore we go to the other extreme and proclaim a universalist gospel message?

[@therealgoodnews4804]

Shalom Dan. To shed some light on those verses, and all like it, the word translated as “eternal, everlasting”, etc., in every case, is the word “aionios”, which is the adjective form of the noun “aion”, which literally means an “age”, like the dark ages, a period of time, usually indefinite, not revealed how long it lasts. So “aionios” is mistranslated in most popular versions as “forever”, “everlasting”, “eternal”, etc., but it’s definition is “pertaining to an age”. It also carries the idea of “permanence”, not as in “eternal”, but as in a permanent job, permanent divorce, etc. So it is “permanent” for a particular time or age. Like the grave. When one dies, it’s permanent. It’s certainly NOT “eternal”, but it’s permanent, in the sense that the person generally won’t be coming back in a few weeks. His death is permanent for this current evil Age. He will be raised at the proper resurrection time. Check Young’s Literal Translation, YLT, and read those same scary judgment verses there. See what a difference. Young was a tad more honest than others. :)

[@danwatkins6303]

​@@therealgoodnews4804 Thanks for your kind reply. Pertaining to Jesus words, are you saying that those 'cursed' are entering an age that is permanent, but not eternal? I myself don't see much difference here! I know that as people living on earth, contemplating the new life to come is hard to wrap our minds around - lol. But whether the language is 'eternal' or 'permanent' my point is that it is a place separate from the God-head, ie some enter a blessed state while others will be neighbours of the Devil and demons. I never understood this as only for a "time, age or season." Even you use the word 'permanent'. In other words, I don't believe some will be punished for a season and then released from the ''permanent'' cursed place, surely the Devil and the demons won't be? Therefore, my concern stated above still remains: is the Church in danger of sending out mixed signals, when Jesus seems pretty clear in his warning? Jesus did not say, 'Don't worry goats, it's okay to reject God's goodness and go your own way here on earth, because my Father will continue pursuing you, even when you are in permanent torment/punishment, with the hope that you will have a change of heart toward him.' If he had done, then surely all the warnings he did give in the gospels (and those given elsewhere in scripture e.g. 2 Thes 1:9), would have been a waste of time!

[@therealgoodnews4804]

@@danwatkins6303 You’re welcome brother. Not an Age that is “permanent”. Their judgment is permanent and temporal. Just like I said about death here. It is permanent, only meaning it lasts until the resurrection. Your job is permanent. Your marriage is permanent. Your home is permanent, etc. Are those things “eternal”, without end ever? Of course not. Here is another example: Exodus 21:2,5-6 KJV [2] If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. [5] And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free: [6] Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever. This now is not a temporary, 7 year contract, but is now permanent, ongoing, until it ends, which is unknown. It’s just “whenever”, and that is what “permanent” means. The word “aionios” does NOT mean “eternal”, it means just the opposite, an “Age”, a period of time, usually unknown and indefinite, but has a beginning and an end. This is always the case when Yeshua uses that word. And yes, all of Creation, in heaven and on earth, or otherwise, has been reconciled back to Yahweh the Father through His Son, and that includes ALL of fallen creation, whether man, angels, or otherwise. So if the word “permanent” confuses you, don’t use it. It’s not normally used, it just has a sense of permanence, meaning that something is going to endure for a while, a vague amount of time, like your marriage, your career, your pension, your business, your car, your house, etc. They go on and on and last for whatever amount of time, but one thing is for sure, NONE of them last “forever”, meaning without end. And yes, Yeshua does say, “don’t worry” in other places, for He has saved everyone, all families, all nations, all men, all creation, forever. Here are a few verses for you to consider. After looking at these, know that all is Well in the End, but in these Ages, it can look pretty bad, temporarily:

[@therealgoodnews4804]

@@danwatkins6303 Romans 5:18-19 KJV [18] Therefore as by the offence of one, judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one, the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. [19] For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 1 Corinthians 15:21-22 KJV [21] For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. [22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Messiah shall all be made alive. 1 Timothy 2:3-6 KJV [3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of Yahweh our Saviour; [4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. [5] For there is one Elohim, and one mediator between Elohim and men, the man Messiah Yeshua; [6] Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. 1 Timothy 4:9-11 KJV [9] This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. [10] For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living Elohim, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. [11] These things command and teach. Isaiah 46:10-11 KJV [10] Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: [11] Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. Romans 11:15 KJV [15] For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? Romans 11:26 KJV [26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 2 Timothy 1:9-10 KJV [9] Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Messiah Yeshua before the world began, [10] But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Yeshua Messiah, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel: Isaiah 53:5-6 KJV [5] But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. [6] All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and Yahweh hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. Genesis 12:3 KJV [3] And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. Genesis 26:4 KJV [4] And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed. John 1:29 KJV [29] The next day John seeth Yeshua coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of Yahweh, which taketh away the sin of the world. John 3:17 KJV [17] For Yahweh sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 12:47 KJV [47] And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. John 4:42 KJV [42] And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Messiah, the Saviour of the world. 1 Timothy 1:15 KJV [15] This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Messiah Yeshua came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. 1 John 2:2 KJV [2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 4:14 KJV [14] And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. John 6:33, 51 KJV [33] For the bread of Elohim is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world... [51] I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. Luke 2:10 KJV [10] And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. Hebrews 2:9 KJV [9] But we see Yeshua, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of Yah should taste death for every man. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV [9] Yahweh is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Acts 3:21 [21] Whom the heaven must receive until the times of Restoration of all things, which Yahweh hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. 2 Corinthians 5:14-19 KJV [14] For the love of Messiah constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: [15] And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again... [18] And all things are of Yahweh, who hath reconciled us to himself by Yeshua Messiah, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; [19] To wit, that Yahweh was in Messiah, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Colossians 1:16,19-20 KJV [16] For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: [19] For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; [20] And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. Ephesians 1:9-10 KJV [9] Having made known unto us the mystery/secret of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: [10] That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Messiah, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him. Romans 11:32 [32] For Yahweh hath committed them all to disobedience/stubbornness, that he might have mercy upon all. Philippians 2:10-11 KJV [10] That at the name of Yahushua every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; [11] And that every tongue should confess that Yeshua the Messiah, He is Lord, to the glory of Yah the Father.

[@danwatkins6303]

@@therealgoodnews4804 Once again, thank you for your input and time! The greek word, aiōnios you defined using ‘Youngs’, has a very different definition in Strongs (please see: www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G166&t=KJV), where it is said to mean, ‘without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be’. Although, as you rightly state, it comes from the noun, aiōn, which Strongs translates as: 1.) for ever, an unbroken age, perpetuity of time, eternity; 2.) the worlds, universe, and; 3.) period of time, age. So it seems to carry the idea of the English word 'eternal' used in our Bible translations. You have given me something to think about, and again, thanks for your effort and time. I am still working this through. But my main ‘hiccup’ is why would Jesus take so much time (which the gospels record) in warning people, if all would be saved anyway? Additionally, why would St Paul work so very hard to spread the gospel, enduring much by way of persecution and dangers (storms, shipwreck, bandits, etc.) if all were going to be saved anyway? To me, that just does not make logical sense. I don’t want to take up more of your time. I do need to mull over and pray over the above. God bless you and thanks once again.

[@Jesusandbible]

The Orthodox love to change the gospel (1 Cor 15:1-4) into one or other of the models of the gospel, so they can change the topic from what it really is - salvation in Christ alone, without works (filthy rags) and acts of priestcraft.

[@dalekelley]

Dude!... Make up your mind. At the 6:15 mark, you're suggesting that if someone dies, having not trusted in Christ, he'll be lost forever. Then at the end you suggest God will never stop pursuing you. Which is it (according to you)? Or, did I miss something?

[@seraphim95]

Read the Great Divorce by C S Lewis

[@dalekelley]

@@seraphim95 Too much to explain in a few thoughts?

[@seraphim95]

@@dalekelley I'll try. God is a consuming fire. At the end of the age, when the Lord returns, God will be all in all. "People will flee to caves in the rocks and to holes in the ground from the fearful presence of the LORD and the splendor of his majesty, when he rises to shake the earth."(Isaiah 2:19). But the righteous will rejoice in the Lord at His return. The river of life is the same as the lake of fire. It's God's all consuming love which is experienced as torture to the wicked, but bliss to the righteous in Christ. But since Christ has been revealed completely and finally to all of creation, there is no longer anywhere to run. Death and Hades are thrown in to the lake of fire. After death there is no repentance, since those who have passed on are no longer bound by space and time. Repentance is a change of the mind/heart and requires the passage of time. Therefore we are all locked into our state for eternity, based on whether we chose to love God or love ourselves.

[@seraphim95]

He seems to be suggesting that there is a chance that the wicked after the Last Day could be redeemed. This is universalism which is a heresy in most Christian groups. I don't believe that Satan will ever be redeemed. But Satan will have nowhere to run after the Last Day, because God's presence will fill the entire universe. This is what he means by "God will never stop pursuing you"

[@dalekelley]

@@seraphim95 Since God will be All, in all, why would people flee from the His presence? Every knee would have bowed, and every tongue would have acclaimed Jesus is Lord, to the glory of The Father by that time. "... based on whether we chose to love God or love ourselves." Based on us? Our "choice"? I was under the impression salvation is based on the work of God through His Son. God is the Savior of all mankind, eh? (1 Timothy 4:10)

[@aaronnelson8653]

This is from the Orthodox Church as you stated at the beginning. Why not just become part of the historic Orthodox Church?

[@margaretsuly4251]

Michael A If only I could know G*D in this way, I fell away from Jesus and don't know who to come back, in fact I feel that their might never be a way back, no matter how I try and reason my way out or in I can't So I keep saying Yes he does love sinners and they do come to Him, BUT if you fall away it would have been better if you had never know the TRUTH! read it its in the NEW TESTAMENT NO WAY BACK!

[@Huddie400]

Michael A - No brother, it’s not as you say. You think that “no way back” is in the Bible? What about “Nothing can separate you from the love of God? Death can’t, life can’t, and all the powers of hell itself cannot keep Gods love away”?? That’s in the Bible too. You’ve been taught false doctrine my friend. There are critical words that have been mistranslated from the Greek, leading many to believe false things about the way the gospel works. Listen to Brad’s sermons, to C. Baxter Kruger, to Paul Young. Learn what these teachers have to teach and you’ll find rest for your soul.

[@frankherbert6476]

You have to understand that God is love and picture it like light. It always shines on us, if we would only turn toward it. Remember in the Genesis when God went looking for Adam? "Adam, where are you?" We always read it as an angry God. Picture it as a loving God trying to find a toddler who's hiding. Also, how many times did Peter himself screw up? Don't worry, I'll carry your faith till you find it again. I pray for you!

[@twinetwstr]

Greek is in the aorist case "while they shall continue to fall away..." he is still chasing you, all tou need to do is to stop running. Welcome home!

[@randymorley3377]

In the story that Jesus told of the Prodical son,... the son knew his father,.. became disillusioned with his father, asked for his inheritance early and then returned when it had been squandered away. He was prepared to be treated as a servant,.. but his father accepted him back with open arms. I believe this speaks directly to God knowing that there will be times when His children rebel,.. run away,.. but just like that Father,.. God is waiting for you with open arms,... watching, waiting with eager anticipation of the day you return to Him.

[@harrylangton3206]

I think you're talking about 2 Peter 2:21 "It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than to have known it and then to turn away from the holy commandment passed on to them." However, if you read the wider context of the chapter, the people he was talking about are false prophets who are trying to lure people away. Because you're trying to find your way back, these words do not apply.

[@grmalinda6251]

Why does sin have to be punished? I can understand the need for correction. None of us want to be dumb or to continue on our way in error but why the need for punishment? Are you vindictive? That would be foolish. No way to undo the damage. It's not like simple you know.

[@conanrose1182]

It needs to be punished because it is breaking God's law. With God being a judge, He has the moral responsibility to judge and punish moral failings (our sin) and moral failures (us). He does this one of two ways for us. Either on the cross if we believe in Him or with us damned to Hell for denying Him. It would be similar to a human judge not sentencing a murderer to jail because the damage was already done and it can't be undone. That would certainly be unjust and even evil of that judge

[@winterlogical]

@@conanrose1182 Can I ask you a question, brother? What does it mean to "forgive" someone? Often, the Greek word used is "aphiemi," which literally means "let go of, release." How does it make sense that the Scriptures say that God did not count our sins against us (2 Cor 5), and yet you imply here He counted them against Christ? That's not forgiveness. That's not letting go of anything. That's retribution. Brad says it well in the video - you don't punish a disease out of someone. You _heal_ someone of the disease. Sin is the disease that's killing us. It's the serpent's bite, the lethal venom of sin that has infected us, and we need cleansing. Justice is God rescuing His good creation from the principalities and powers that have enslaved them. What would be unjust would be God allowing the devil, sin and death to reign on the earth.

[@OskarLindwallMusic]

[@Red_Pill_Matrix]

-- Did God really “hate” Esau? (Mal 1:2-3) No. This was hyperbole like Christ’s command to “hate” our family, or when Jesus referred to Peter as Satan.” Hyperbole was very common in the ancient east. Though Esau “despised” his birthright, he repented, and God greatly blessed him. Jesus-then, the embodiment of God’s love for all, died for Esau too. -- What about Hitler-how could he ever be forgiven? Jesus died for all sinners-including Hitler. No one merits salvation. It all comes down to our faith in the power of God to change any heart and His will to do so. -- Doesn't justice demand infinite penalty for sin because it is committed against an infinite, holy God? This is a philosophical idea not based on Scripture. The Bible teaches the opposite. God’s holy and true principle of justice originates in “measured” judgment-a tutor bringing us to Christ, then onto mercy which triumphs over judgment. -- How can we trust our conscience if our heart is wicked? (Jer.17:9) Abraham, Jesus and Paul all appeal to it when exhorting us to judge what is right in our search for Truth. Though the KJV says the human heart is wicked, the NAS says it is sick and the Greek OT says it is deep-all regarding the same verse! The Greek OT, in this verse, connects examining our “deep” hearts to God’s just (measured) judgment! These descriptions of the human heart are radically different. Sure the human heart is not perfect and can be terribly sick at times, but it can still discern good from evil. ... Why didn’t God make this plain? Controversy in the Christian faith is extensive and not unique to ultimate destiny. Few realize that endless punishment was not the prevailing view of the early church during its first 500 years when the New Testament was read in Greek- not handicapped by translations. The Church inherently knew the true meaning of judgment terms. However, many ancient Fathers thought endless punishment was a necessary deterrent to societal chaos. Jesus told His disciples there were many things He could tell them, but they were not ready. So perhaps the time has come-- the Church is ready for the higher revelation of God’s limitless grace. The internet age is here, and the truth can no longer be suppressed by the institutional gatekeepers of formal religion. -- What about all the suffering in the world? I find great comfort in knowing that all the world’s suffering and injustices will be made right. The poor, the hungry, and the sorrowing (which represent all human suffering) will be eternally blessed. “What we suffer now in this world is nothing compared to the magnificent future God has for us. It comforts me to know that God “is” Love, makes everything beautiful in its time, wipes away all tears and removes all pain. He makes “All things NEW!”

[@harrylangton3206]

Thank you

[@themcdizzles3627]

A great sermon for people who like to hear obvious lies about the Bible.

[@johnewald5480]

God is love but, he will punish those who do not accept his sacrifice for our sins. Though our sins be as scarlet he washes them white as snow. He sent his only begotten son to save us from his holy wrath.

[@JosephStClair-gz5eh]

...and you didn't watch the whole video

[@jingfeiguo3516]

He is justifying sinners and sins

[@sewingstoryprojects6178]

aka false gospel

[@dalekelley]

@@sewingstoryprojects6178 In what way is "He is justifying sinners and sins" a so-called false gospel?

[@Porglit]

This is a lot of stories, but no exegesis; no scripture, no context, no serious look at the bible, just stories. =/

[@joelwu2254]

Just because he doesn't quote verse numbers doesn't mean he doesn't quote the bible.

[@twinetwstr]

Everything is in the Bible, it's a different viewpoint for the same stories.

[@Jordan-hz1wr]

Porglit, if you'd read the bible you'd know. We're not here to worship the bible. We're here to worship Yahweh.

[@VelcroKittie]

@@Jordan-hz1wr Boom!

[@qhebotosumi8327]

The entire story is from the bible who rightly divided the word of truth.