One thing I’ve noticed, and been guilty of myself as well, is that people fall in line with a certain line as long as it’s giving them good results. They’ll throw 5 strikes in a row, but strike 4 hit a little high and still struck. The signs are there that the lanes are transitioning, but because they got a strike, they don’t move. So then, they get back up on that lane and go high again and leave a 4 pin when they could’ve made a small adjustment and gotten 6 in a row instead.
@dustyc3242 жыл бұрын
I have a hard enough time hitting my mark. My misses are usually poor release or missed target.
@TheDxrkLegend2 жыл бұрын
@@dustyc324 same, especially with my new ball which is the phaze v
@Knife66out2 жыл бұрын
Were you watching me bowl tonight? 😂
@francoismeslin2158 Жыл бұрын
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@jayjayjay021 Жыл бұрын
Ha! Story of my life.
@Inquire7032 жыл бұрын
@19:20 Brad, it happens to the best of us. I usually think my thoughts are coming in faster than my mouth is able to form the words. Excellent video Gentlemen.
@jonathanbatchelor50322 жыл бұрын
Love the longer format guys. Great information and demonstration. I know you can’t do it all the time but more of this.
@johnsunn12562 жыл бұрын
This is what I love. Bowling and explaining the why's and how's with when adjusting. This is my current issue with becoming more consistent. Adjusting.
@tonyguerrier22582 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking out the thought process!
@nFISHnNation2 жыл бұрын
The thought process and discussion in making adjustments from 2 pros is invaluable no matter where you're at or your approach to the game. Keep on giving back to the game Fellas ! Great job ! 👍👍
@p4756012 жыл бұрын
This is great! thanks guys! -- bowled my first ABT tournament this last weekend. bowled great on Saturday..... totally bombed on Sunday...
@dawmlw2 жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion.
@AH-tx1nj2 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys. Those main 3 ways to adjust my game is going to help me a lot.
@thesamsquatch52242 жыл бұрын
Amazing demonstration! This really helps me break it down and then in your previous video on 3 spaces where you throw in the lane. I'm always going to start further left I generate a little more hook with two hands. But now I get what the transition entails , the hand placement and ball speed. Thank you for this!
@jaydenhoskins34632 жыл бұрын
Wish me luck in my league tonight!!!! love the vids
@dustyc3242 жыл бұрын
300 tonight bruh!
@dallastexas56532 жыл бұрын
This video is gonna really help me for the once every 3 years that I play.
@jackschmucker63472 жыл бұрын
Nice show, loved it. 🙂
@homegrilladvantage2 жыл бұрын
Mark 23:03 spoke to my SOUL!! Lol I feel like the lanes always play tighter on day 2 and I'm still ripping it smh...Thank you guys for this 👏
@runnerboy68862 жыл бұрын
Kyle, you are ankle deep in Movember ;) love it
@ronpryor5812 Жыл бұрын
Great information. Thanks for your passing on knowledge.
@kingbo19212 жыл бұрын
Great vid guys! Been working on exactly this.. figuring out what the lane gives and how to adjust to it. Appreciate informative videos like this, great info.
@JohnTheMyth2 жыл бұрын
Kyle do you have any tips for bowlers who bowl straight with no curve?
@joshuaburke95162 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this together fellas!
@destinationbowling2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@rc073332 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the added cam angle! Wonderful addition!!
@BillyDaGoat10172 жыл бұрын
Bowled on Cheetah and Shark this past weekend and boy I have THAT MUCH MORE RESPECT FOR PROS!
@ashtinw.45552 жыл бұрын
Could someone point me to a video on PAP and what pin placement you would typically use for certain reactions, and how it varies with coverstock/core?
@cybersteel82 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration! I'm glad you didn't switch balls, most league bowlers don't have the luxury you guys do. I'd like to see more of this stuff, but more challenging adjustments. A video where y'all end up lost on the lanes, making adjustments and nothing's working, that kind of thing. This video seemed like a very simple adjustment - slow ball speed, move right a bit - but sometimes these kind of decisions don't have as predictable results as we see in your video. It's a great concept, I hope you do more videos like this!
@castor-zv9kv2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. More shots per minute is much appreciated by this viewer!
@judgestickler41482 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. First off for me it would be nice to know where YOUR starting point is on the approach. aka what dots are you standing on? Also, could you video a little more to the right or left so we can see more? The view is blocked by his backside.
@renaynay182 жыл бұрын
As a league bowler, this video helped me a lot. So thank you for that 🖤
@bridgetclement29682 жыл бұрын
I am a League bowler too
@lukelamar42702 жыл бұрын
I couldn't brake 100 before watching this now I just bowled a 150 which isn't the best but it's a hell of an improvement
@KoolBell4AU Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I learned a TON!
@darrinhemenway97502 жыл бұрын
I love my old storm exfactor but it don't hook as much as it use to , but I use to be good with it , and bowled way better with it.
@dustyc3242 жыл бұрын
have you tried baking the oil out and touch up the surface?
@KingLex9152 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I haven't been bowling too long and this video is something i really needed!! Keep up the great videos. With all bowling channels now you guys are definitely some of the best.
@whiteriverangler96702 жыл бұрын
Love love these types of videos. I became a member of the Brad and Kyle subscription and I haven’t regretted it a bit. It’s already helped my game with coach Daniel and I’m sure it will only get better (not a paid advertisement 😂)
@jamesvarela74092 жыл бұрын
i love the unedited parts with brad’s brain farts 😂
@SuperOCHomes2 жыл бұрын
We'll edit this later, Nah, we have edited yet, let's through it up now or never
@teeken8850 Жыл бұрын
What about bone dry aka the neglect pattern or too cheap to buy oil pattern.
@scottythompson9402 жыл бұрын
Cool video talk tech bowling brad and Kyle
@oswaldokatz25232 жыл бұрын
Video about playing in front of the machine: timing, angles, loft, hand position!!!
@johnmatthewdorion7855 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informafion. This alley reminds me of the one on Wii Sports
@chriscarnahan60062 жыл бұрын
Does a strong shot referring to delivery, does tht mean a cupped wrist. I believe I mostly through with my wrist behind the ball. When I try to cup my wrist I seem to lose some control. Thanks for the info
@FishMaster780 Жыл бұрын
What a great vid!!! Thanks guys, besides a methodology to getting lined up.... we all miss!! and don't make an adjustment based on a bad shot.
@kristenanderson52732 жыл бұрын
My spare game has gotten better, but I’ve been having trouble stringing strikes, and I think part of the problem is sometimes missing my mark as well as releasing the ball inconsistently. Do I need to rotate my hand around the ball to get more hook, or is it only a matter of getting my thumb out sooner and lifting with the fingers? If I get the ball over 1st arrow or board 6 or 7, it will hook a little more (sometimes it goes high), and other times I miss right (or left and it goes almost straight at the pocket). Can’t seem to get my ball speed over 13 mph, but on the other hand, I remember something Brad said, something about slowing down the ball speed and even at 7 or 8 mph, the ball can still strike, but I have to rely on being so accurate and hitting just the right mark.
@donkeydiehard8792 жыл бұрын
I would just focus on releasing the ball the same way EVERYTIME. If you're bowling on house shot, you can score by being consistent and accurate. Ideally, you don't want to come around the ball to get more hook. You want the hook to come from clearing the thumb first. Coming around the ball will make it more "volatile." It saves energy so just "jumps" once it sees friction. Although it may look cool, it is rarely a way to repeatable success.
@MikeDCWeld2 жыл бұрын
6:10 - 7:00 I think you guys used some poor phrasing in this discussion. Properly executing the shot you're trying to make should feel the sane anywhere. The results of that shot will vary depending on what center you're in, which lane you're on, the oil pattern used, and how much it has been played on to that point and with what. Previous to this discussion, Brad had a good point about not immediately adjusting based off a poorly executed shot, which is something that anyone with any appreciable experience will know instantly.
@MOTORCITYBIG12 жыл бұрын
19:14 puff puff pass
@snooppatrol3565 Жыл бұрын
Great video, but one critique would be showing where you lined up each throw =). Keep up the good work. Much love. - 710 Ben Ben Ben
@darrinhemenway97502 жыл бұрын
I use a burner globel 900
@ianhoneycutt38582 жыл бұрын
My standard line is around 13 at the arrows to 6 at the break point. This way, I also get a feel for the pattern length, as well as telling me if the area near the gutter is in play.
@sarata13 Жыл бұрын
Brad, when you set up for 15-10, where do you place your feet?
@bencruz6902 жыл бұрын
19:01 lol! i like that they didn't edit this out.
@bobleone13812 жыл бұрын
Question. On the lanes 5-6 where the ball is hooking more and you moved your feet left......do you also move your target left into the oil? When I move left and hit the same mark, my ball goes deeper into the dry (right) and comes back even harder. Consequently I am killing the head pin. I need help with handling that transition......and that happens by the end of game one every week. Thanks.
@williamperkins6468 ай бұрын
Did you make a 5 and 0 move to the left, or a move to the left with your eyes at the arrows as well, like a 5 ans 2?
@moxibustion052 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I have a Question. If you don't know the pattern, how do you know de distance where the ball brakes down? Where the brake point is?
@dustyc3242 жыл бұрын
by watching the ball. varying the speed. if your ball is hooking early, throw it a little faster, the oil is short. Ball not hooking til late? Roll it slower. Or move to the dry a little more. Same with moving into the oil if you're breaking too hard and coming up High. Move your shot more to the wet ( middle.) then you can get into changing a ball. I use one ball and make adjustments. maybe that's why I have a 180 and not a 200 average. some days my ball just isn't gonna work right on different conditions. Different ball would allow my shot and line to work better. Bowling balls aren't cheap. Too many other hobbies. One new ball a year. usually worn out by the end.
@SuperOCHomes2 жыл бұрын
@@dustyc324 coming up high, would that leave a 3-6-10, or similar? Thanks
@Mortimuss2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@polishprince50102 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always boys. Also, Kyle, if you ever quit bowling you have a career in the Rhode island police force....
@Jgotcha1872 жыл бұрын
How do you know when to change balls compared to when to adjust?
@RawbertLive2 жыл бұрын
seeing a 28 minute brad and kyle video made me so happy, keep up the great work guys, yall made me fall in love with bowling this year
@mattwelsh85772 жыл бұрын
Great video
@XCRiders11 ай бұрын
lol that lane was oily. good lessons, thanks for sharing
@jazzmynerose6784 Жыл бұрын
Wish I found you guys earlier 😅 definitely subscribed!
@BradandKyleBowl Жыл бұрын
Better late than never!
@mitchellpierce7962 жыл бұрын
I wish u guys could coach me i still have alot to learn
@bowlingxp83452 жыл бұрын
Good points. A note about what Brad said HE does for less speed. He said he pushes the ball on the downswing less forcefully. This means that he generally pushes the ball. And it actually shows just by watching him bowl. I think this is a bad habit because it is very hard to repeat the same amount of force. AND very hard to reduce or increase it accurately. AND it will often hurt accuracy. The best thing is to have all speed from the lower body and keep the arm loose and doing the same thing in the swing. Also, speed is hard to manage accurately. I would not mess with speed as a 1st solution. Especially when there so many balls and surfaces that can help first. Or targeting/angle adjustments. If there aren't other solutions, then yes, speed management.
@jah92532 жыл бұрын
I think it really depends on the bowler. For some it might be easier to change ball speed versus making moves on line, wrist position, or ball changes.
@bowlingxp83452 жыл бұрын
@@jah9253 could be but my guess is they are going to be the exception to the rule. Speed is hard !
@dustyc3242 жыл бұрын
@@bowlingxp8345 Most bowlers aren't toting around 4 different layouts and surfaces. I agree it's difficult to manage speed and make adjustments, but its practical for people that only carry one or two different options. Line adjustment seems to work best for me. I even try to leave my feet in the same spot and just adjust the line I'm looking for. Sometimes I just need to speed up a little and still hit my spot. IDK. Guess that's what makes the game so funstrating!
@bowlingxp83452 жыл бұрын
@@dustyc324 Haha true. Well most players arent adjusting at all beyond changing where they stand and look. But i will say this : if someone can adjust speed well with consistency...it is a huge advantage. But also this : speed is kinetic energy and can offer more pin action. So i would strive for the most speed possible, and change other parameters first, in order to not lose this energy and pin action. But for 99% of players this is very hard. For example i am a low rev guy, but i still want to learn to play with plenty of speed.
@jeffhoover506027 күн бұрын
I never pay attention to the boards, I'm looking at arrows to pin angle and just feeling it. My high game is 286, then 262. Highest average was 181. Getting older though. Currently at 144. Last week I hit a 151, 145, 181. Had a 237 a few weeks ago..
@nickziolkowski97572 жыл бұрын
Any tips for a high Rev rate bowler
@51187corey Жыл бұрын
Haha I'm glad you didn't edit that part out where you totally fumbled the bag and forgot what you were saying 😂
@seymourcarson2 жыл бұрын
When Brad says “missed right…” does he mean right of the third arrow?
@BigJim57542 жыл бұрын
Longer format great for all the info we can take in. Imo this would be alittle better if maybe you did it with like 3 basic balls so we can learn the thought process on what kind of ball we need to change to when the lanes are showing "example" . Like The wolverine seemed to be sliding to far, maybe having the wolverine, a phaze 2, and maybe a hybrid assym to cover the bases on what changes we might make.
@BradandKyleBowl2 жыл бұрын
We wanted this video to outlast the life cycle of an average bowling ball. Most balls come off the shelves within a year, but these tips will keep you striking consistently for years!
@glenstokes39702 жыл бұрын
Ok, if it takes this much to figure these steps, ur not going far in your score, I am trying fellows, so is there a sheet, or a certain person to go for these different oil conditions before u get on the lane?
@thesickness4312 жыл бұрын
Majority of the time there will be a pattern sheet given prior to whatever event you're bowling. Unless it's something like the USBC nationals where they keep the pattern a secret for the entire course of the event. You shouldn't really be going in completely clueless though
@dustyc3242 жыл бұрын
probably not on a rec league. practice. practice. practice. when you go rent a lane for an hour, don't worry about your score. Watch the ball and see where it's going. Try something else. Try something else. Throw your spare shots like there is a full rack up there. That will help you understand what changes do what. Of course you want to practice shooting your spares, but first understanding what your ball is doing when you throw it in different spots gets you dialed in. Then you start doing that before your league in the ten min warmup. Don't worry about the spare. Find your line.
@thesickness4312 жыл бұрын
@@dustyc324 true good call I didn't even think of the league aspect. You can try to ask the head of house how they lay out the house shot, but I agree lots of practice and just getting repetition will help you get a better eye for the lanes and ball reaction
@Jafiveon2 жыл бұрын
Now that's a nice soup strainer you got Kyle.
@caroltorno33212 жыл бұрын
Neat video
@darrinhemenway97502 жыл бұрын
I injoy watching you both bowling , and I should be bowling better then Avery body on my league but I'm not. No one hooks it like me. I have a great form, but having problems
@nicholasburrows571610 ай бұрын
I have been typically doing a few practice swings (I guess) before I actually release the ball…kinda want to get comfortable enough to release it from the get go…so that I don’t lose the momentum…but kinda scared Also I feel like I should get more practice with hooking so that I can hopefully get more consistent with striking
@alstewart31682 жыл бұрын
I think when they switch to lane 5 bray timing changed which causing things having a side slow motion view can tell the difference
@readerusmc52952 жыл бұрын
Came for the improvements to my bowling game. Stayed for the same name.
@readerusmc52952 жыл бұрын
"Kyle" :)
@blooder902 жыл бұрын
How would you adjust if there was a lot of carry-down? Feel free to use all the tools in the bag - a full arsenal of balls, surface, etc. ?
@Melantdrew3132 жыл бұрын
Kyle looks like a rookie cop working the beat. Lol. Im just saying man. Much love to you guys. I thought I'd lighten the mood😁💪🏾🎳
@Tnguy865vols5 ай бұрын
Kyle with the stash reminds me of my cousin who's a firefighter.
@coachstephsell2 жыл бұрын
Question.... When you are slowing down the shot are you slowing down 1 mph
@sethadams73792 жыл бұрын
Your mustache gives a cop vibe lol, good video
@Shane-ll6dd Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me how to get the package dill I don't know much about phone stuff
@spncrbriggs2 жыл бұрын
I get 600 series but my issue is when start dry up super fast or lot ppl use urethane or new ppl use plastic balls and like bowl on line am trying to shape
@ganiangeles31122 жыл бұрын
Kyle, you look like Borat
@jaymorin71312 жыл бұрын
I stopped bowling in 1995 because of the BS short oil. Would have been great to have conditions like this back in the day. Dropped bowling and took up golf.
@lenywilliams77652 жыл бұрын
If using a lighter ball, like a 12lb, does the same go for this ball ?
@BowlerScott2 жыл бұрын
19:01 - 19:18
@antongabe3 Жыл бұрын
Sorry noob question.. when you say move 7 boards left i know thafs the feet. Do you move the eyes (arrows) 7 boards too?
@IAmTheEggMan1112 жыл бұрын
Why do you not go right of 10 board at the arrows?
@darrinhemenway97502 жыл бұрын
I bowl in fountain valley bowl, and Im having problems, I bowl out and in , and try deferent things and still have problems , I want to go back to 174 average . I'm at 150 average
@hackprefect2 жыл бұрын
Simplest advice anyone can give you is learn to be make your spares more consistently. Just doing that will increase your average a lot.
@SuperOCHomes2 жыл бұрын
I think FV has had some oil issue lately and everyone's scores are down 20. At least our team is. They look like they maybe getting back on top of the situation again. Your scores are coming. Or you ball isn't as new
@heverlyj2 жыл бұрын
why mess with ball speed, which is so hard to judge, when you could move your feet right, which is more objective?
@KieferNeumann2 жыл бұрын
Obviously this video's goal was to make adjustments with the same ball, but do you try to find a line/ball combo that doesn't force you to change your normal speed and hand positions? Or is it easier to just make these adjustments with the same ball?
@scoutpack15182 жыл бұрын
If you stay with the same ball, you can understand what is happening a bit better than constantly switching, but the key is to not force the ball and manipulate it too much. If you start doing that, ball change is definitely good.
@dustyc3242 жыл бұрын
@@scoutpack1518 Right. Adjustment is good up until it's too unnatural or just not working. Ball change can bring you closer to a normal speed and line.
@caanwales2068 Жыл бұрын
How can you tell the difference between a lot of oil and roll out, they look the same to me
@austinmcginnis33332 жыл бұрын
How I get more x
@bridgetclement29682 жыл бұрын
I have friends in my League that have Balls speeds of 15-25mph!!! Which is NUTS!!!
@glenstokes39702 жыл бұрын
How can a person find out what and where the oil conditions are in the bowling there in
@remoevans78472 жыл бұрын
Tenpin Toolkit app will give you access to the full oil pattern library. Most leagues change the oil pattern every quarter, just ask the lane guy/girl/center proprietor what the current pattern being used is.
@conniemilhollon74722 жыл бұрын
Well lately where I bowl been having to bowl with my widow spare ball. This is at league not just practice kinda expect it at practice because it's just what is out there. It's bad when you have to at league and it's not because we have high Rev making the oil go away
@alancollins27072 жыл бұрын
So if that's me I have 2 splits and missed the 10 pin 3 opens I'm pissed off and there goes that game!
@joshg2182 жыл бұрын
19:15 is what happens when you hang out with Packy and Simo
@BigDad21502 жыл бұрын
Did someone forget to edit a couple awkward spots ? Lol
@BradandKyleBowl2 жыл бұрын
We call that *pizzazz* 🤣
@BigDad21502 жыл бұрын
@@BradandKyleBowl I liked it
@JamezBong2 жыл бұрын
In a slump and at a crossroads of should I practice more or just try turning my brain off and throwing?
@dustyc3242 жыл бұрын
both. My first 300 I was arguing with my gf between frames. I wasn't paying attention to bowling at all. Going up and throwing my shot, coming back and bickering with her. She pointed out I had 9 and left me alone. Good way to end an argument.
@jah92532 жыл бұрын
I'm like Brad...easier for me to slow down my ball speed. Usually when I try to increase to anything over 15 mph, I lose consistency, unless I'm throwing a straight shot on a spare.
@GeeZish2 жыл бұрын
No wonder you hook so good. The whole bowling ally is tilted to the left!
@juliuscunanan12452 жыл бұрын
Hello guys, id like to ask how many boards of your target did you move when you moved 7 boards to the left on lane 5? thanks...
@coachstephsell2 жыл бұрын
The ads are in such bad spots ☺️ right in the middle of the throw 😩