Fixing this Amateurs' Bowling Release | LIVE Coaching Lesson

[@Swamprowdy]

Suggest you do several more vids with Dennis. The progression would be interesting. Thanks Kyle.

[@ckstafford2003]

Absolutely agree

[@yusufibnushafii9319]

yeah..

[@dpaoaafaite]

Agree Dennis you are our tester 😅

[@BlackHeartedPanda]

Don't stop till Dennis gets his own title

[@paperplatefood]

i couldn't agree more. this is one of the best videos i've seen. actual coaching session is nice to see

[@akcrafter5321]

I have to say thank you to Brad and Kyle for this video. I'm a 155 average bowler, still trying for my first 200 game. I saw this video on Friday and at practice today I used this method and scored a 229!! Thank you again. Your videos are great and very helpful for tips and advice!

[@fredfredricj.lowecfp-tm3299]

That's amazing!!! Congrats!! I used to be a 162 bowler, 40 years ago. I just started bowling again and just found this channel. Keep up your great work! Thank you Brad and Kyle!! I really enjoy watching your videos and trying to apply your suggestions. I've been bowling once a week the past 2 months and bowl 4 games. I am very inconsistent but missed a 200 last Saturday by 1 pin :(! I need to be more balanced when planting my lead foot. Many times, I feel my release is not where it should be. I averaged 150 in those 4 games last week but had 3 games around 130 The week before I had 2 games of 176 out of the 4. So I am probably averaging around 140 or so in the past 2 months. One week I did average 160 for the 4 games. I definitely want to improve my release and consistency before joining a league. I am going to try the 2 tips from this video. I'm hoping these 2 techniques improve my consistency. My ball is an Ebonite 16 lb ball from 40 years old. I do not throw a hook. Eventually, I want to buy a new ball and learn how to begin hooking it, but do not feel I am ready for that. Great job again!!!

[@lees3692]

Great job. Now you are going to crave that 600 series and get a bunch of 590s lol.

[@captainricco2777]

I have to tell you a 200 is thrilling🎉🎉 But keeping it rising after that is the challenge. After I got my second 300 game it felt like I had a chance to be great. Then as I chased after another 300 endlessly trying to fix bad bowling I realized the lane gets oiled in "special" patterns at random times to keep people hooked. It's a scam 😂😂😂😂 You will see it soon enough as you try to win a title or championship🎉

[@tanker242]

​@@captainricco2777it's not a scam, that's the point it's part of the game. You throw a couple shots to learn the lane pattern, then you bowl.

[@coffeyscarburetors6437]

Im a 143 average. Also chasing that 200 game. My highest right now is 185. I think this might just be what i need.

[@photoc]

Kyle explains things so well and doesn't get into technical jargon for people. You can already see a huge difference in rev rate in Dennis' shots just after a few throws. Some people just have a knack for coaching and Kyle definitely has it.

[@tracycarlsen6675]

😅1 I o

[@jamesclift6718]

Coming from a baseball background the fact he emphasizes “feel” is so important. Translating words into a feeling that someone can recognize is what make a coach great.

[@jamesclift6718]

Also the fact Dennis knows what he needs to work on is a big point too. When the student knows enough to recognize a problem that’s a huge step

[@dharvell]

Gave the "pointing the V toward the pins" thing a try during practice, today. I'm a 172 average bowler... in today's practice, I bowled a 212, 223, and 226. Thanks for the tip!

[@radicaledward8486]

these are awesome for those of us who live in places with limited coaching opportunities

[@greenmachine6146]

This has changed my (bowling) life. 220 avg bowler was struggling the last 4 months to hit 600 series. Made this change and game 3 was 289, then 255. My track moved 1" closer to my finger grips and ball reaction is much more predictable. I am excited to bowl again which has been missing for a while. Thanks Kyle!

[@MagicJ337]

The coaching membership is 100% worth it if anyone is on the fence about it. I’ve seen similar improvements in my own game to what we saw with Dennis in this viedo

[@HairFIip]

My friends and I picked up bowling just as a fun little weekly past time where we can hang out and have a good time. 6 months in we got bored of throwing it straight and started to practice hooking the house balls. Now almost a year later we each bought our very own balls, ball bag, and shoes. First day throwing the new balls one of the regular league players comes up to us and tells us how painful it was watching us try hooking with the house balls for the past few months and we all had a good laugh. This video helped me be better at it. So thank you.

[@elliotthill7008]

Awesome. I just went for the first time with my friends on Saturday. I hope this is me in a few years. We had such a good time.

[@MzAliH21]

This video has helped so much! Bowling has brought me out of depression and now I just want to get better and have fun. THANK U❤

[@Fabomenal92]

People who really understand the sport of bowling and how to get better, are very rare in my area. I‘m very thankfull for the work you two throw into this channel. I‘m feeling like getting better just by watching your content 😂👍🏻

[@gerrywilliamson8880]

This was soooo informative. His release is exactly like mine, so it is good to see what how he was able to progress and Ill be certainly trying this “fix” to work on mine. My problem is if I try and stay behind the ball I don’t get the ball speed I need.

[@SirJoelsuf1]

That's actually a good thing if you don't get the ball speed you think you need if you are THIS speed dominant. Judging by Dennis' first release his RPMs are 175 to 225 with his ball speed at 15 to 16 MPH (at the pins). That is incredibly speed dominant. In order for him to have optimal motion he'd need to slow down to about 13ish MPH.

[@scottabraham1247]

Thanks for this session!! I changed to this hand position and immediately got more consistent. At one point across 2 games, I threw 11 in a row!! Ended up with a 643!! And, was only a 175 average bowler. Awesome adjustment!! Keep the info coming guys! I appreciate it!!

[@jvalthedon8953]

Watched this video this morning. Kept the V on my mind bowling league. Bowled my best series in a while. 757 series. Great content!

[@TheJosieyup]

That was such a helpful video, Kyle! Never seen anyone break it down that way. Can't wait to Dennis' progression! Also, can't wait for that Brad and Kyle bowling ball! 😉

[@mrbigtbonevissoc]

This is exactly what I've been looking for. You guys have talked about this release in many videos, but I couldn't find the "feel" or strategy to get me there. Looking forward to giving it a try.

[@mikelombard21]

This was awesome. I loved every second. More vids like this. I learned out so much from watching a fellow amateur.

[@ShamonBeckham]

This video would drop right when I left the alley haha. I'm excited to see the next step if you do continue with this!

[@seramarie76]

AWESOME. Hard to find an instructional that's basic. Step by step. On a fun league. Going to use the tips tonight.

[@jakiwijakiwi9567]

Thank you very much for videos like this, it helped me and I don't think I'm the only one helped by this great tip. My bowling release got so much better !!! And all I did was pointing the V to the pins. Great videos you guys are making, continue like this !!!

[@Peter-gl1yv]

I videoed my self and yup outside grip all the way. Can't wait to give this lesson a try. Thanks for the very simple instructions.

[@DJMcRae08]

By far one of the best tips that I've come across! I wasn't aware how much axis rotation until I had my wife record me. Now I practice keeping the "V" pointed towards the pins. Definitely a game changer.

[@tannerc1821]

This is the best video you’ve ever made! For sure do more of this style.

[@mikelombard21]

Honestly, maybe the best ever. It was so informative I could watch hours of this kind of video.

[@Darkcruzer23]

i definitely have to try this to see if it changes anything for me. i like how you give us the V to help hold the ball better, and it gives us something to aim to attempt to maintain the hold throughout the throw. the release with a push into the lane at the end sounds so different than anything else ive been told(release into a handshake) so im sure it will change things up a lot

[@MrScottsiegel]

I don't know if you still do these or see these anymore....but I am 53 and picked up a ball for the first time in 30 years last month....wow it's been a strange month! But last week I found your trainings and this one in particular and I got to tell you this video alone has changed my game....I used to be a 190ish league bowler back in the day.....averaging about 135 in league thus far this year. Yesterday....after doing NOTHING DIFFERENT than moving my index finger and changed my release point I was 30 pins over avg game 1 and almost 60 in games 2 and 3!!! I swear I did nothing different....I am not sure how either but I went from about an 11mph strike ball to now close to 13....almost 2mph difference in 1 week? I am not quite sure how to thank you!! But thank you!

[@kylecrespo3336]

Missed you guys! 2 weeks is way to Long!! Always excited when I see when a video drops!

[@jmt11107]

I finally find a video that explains to me what the yoyo release should look like. Thank you for always sharing your advice. You guys do an awesome job! Keep up the good work. Best of luck on the lanes!

[@billylusk3515]

Great video, loved the lesson about the V i got my new primal shock the same weekend that i watched this, worked on my release and in three weeks with my shock and keeping the V straight, my release is so much better. Ive shot a 200 each week and my average has shot up from a 164 to a 180 ! Very exciting.

[@cannonchristopher]

This is a great video. I appreciate your example of the "V". I've had coaching before, but was told to "just do this, just do that", and it never translates. Really considering the coaching program. I'm like Dennis, currently a spinner with a low track and I need to know the feel as opposed to just doing something. I need that Brad and Kyle Butter roll to get to the next level.

[@tfain13]

I immediately started bowling better after watching this video!! Thank you!

[@Tcogdrummer]

Heck yeah. This is one of the things I am currently working on. I've been bowling fairly consistent for over 2 and a half years now, and in all this time I have yet to get Rev. I've been a straight bowler trying everything I can to get hook down lane, and increase revs, and this was just the video I needed! Thanks Brad and Kyle for always producing great content!

[@MrJgravley]

He is one of the best guys in the sport. I understand everything he says. Keep it going!

[@joannebenedetto970]

I never thought I'd be able to improve my bowling score by watching a KZbin video. Thank you so much, Kyle for this amazingly helpful and easy to understand lesson!

[@GetBentTTV]

the "V" that was mentioned in the vid helped me shoot 2 perfect games in a row yesterday and gave me the feel i was looking for to make my release snap the way ive always wanted it too

[@feddyvonwigglestein3481]

It's important to remember when improving/changing mechanical aspects of your game, that you WILL take a step or two back in terms of your individual game scores when you compete. At some point though, it will click, and you'll be a little bit better than you were before. I know from experience...

[@ozneroll2132]

Truth

[@ippo.n6588]

It's thought to be the same in Japan that the score goes down a little when you change something. It's universal.

[@joelbyers7937]

This is much better than some other videos I watched. It’s honestly tough to see the difference but it was explained well and I’ve taken some notes and I know I can work on this.

[@bobgomavitz1330]

Being a Sr. bowler that is much like Dennis, I’ve been trying to lower my Tilt for a longtime and work on it weekly right now. Great vid for many of us. It would have been nice to have his Specs, Rotation, Tilt, Ball Speed Front and Back, and Revs and compare they if he able to make progress to see the dif. I’ll apply more of this next weekend. I see changes visually from my oil rings. Always looking for them to be closer to my grip

[@jefflemburg2836]

I'm a 220 average bowler the past two years. I have side rotation still not as bad as when I was in high school but been trying to fix it more n more. This probably will help me and I also watched more videos on my swing and balance arm. Gonna try those things as well. Thanks brad n Kyle.

[@jl4560]

In all this is the best explanation of the release that I've ever heard, Great job I now understand something that has eluded me for years.

[@leoingle]

Man, this video is exactly what I needed to see.. I have a 181 average and I release from the side like this. I have tried so hard to keep my hand behind the ball but my hand just goes to the side from either habit, muscle memory or whatever. I think practicing with the focus on the "V" and then wrist snap will really help.

[@Kaye_Vaughn_7]

This is what I've been looking for, I'm a "feel" guy 😅, I can't wait to try this tonight when I go bowling.... V towards the pins

[@darylgould8923]

Saw this video and my release is similar to Dennis's. Will try the 'v' method at league today. Great tips ,well presented. Thank you Kyle and Dennis.

[@LVLV-im3ne]

I went bowling for the first time yesterday & had a blast. In the beginning the ball would end up in the grove. Then I got a better handle on the ball. This video gave me excellent tips.

[@donpeplow8231]

exciting to watch...i have the same problem for the last 60 yrs, but am dedicated to do it the RIGHT way...thanks....wlll try the next practice session

[@die7fox]

I'm really glad you talked so much about "feel." I've had several practices where I was absolutely sure I was coming up the back of the ball at release, because it "felt" like I was; but then I'd watch the recordings I made I and discover that I was still coming over the top of the ball instead of staying behind it. That "feel" was still more familiar than what I was trying to do. I found that I really have to exaggerate the feel of coming up the back of the ball in order to actually do that. What helped me develop the proper feel was deliberately throwing backup balls for several frames, just to get my mind to adjust to having my elbow in and my hand almost dead center and below the ball. It felt really, REALLY awkward for a couple of weeks, but now it's almost (almost!) second nature. The "V" thing makes a lot of sense. I've heard Norm Duke talk about that, too. It really makes a difference! Great video, guys!

[@cryptoenthusiast9897]

Terrible advice

[@anthonyb27]

This is what I needed. I'm trying this tomorrow, thanks.

[@whozeppelin224]

thanks for this! staying behind the ball is something i struggle with as well. hope to see more in this series.

[@andrewcrockett3044]

Such an interesting motion of the wrist to flex back or yo-yo...and when Dennis tries it, you can see it going from a spin biscuit to being up the back. If you have a strong wrist and understand how to leverage power, you can really rip the ball with revs

[@engkuharry]

Finallyyy.. been searching this kind of tips for years. I do have the same problem with Dennis, my flare way too far from the thumb hole. Definitely will try this tips. Thank you!😊

[@razorbear4222]

This was very helpful for me I can’t wait to go the lanes and try these 2 things out because these are things I definitely struggle with

[@props651]

Looking forward to trying this in my future practice sessions.

[@BigV.300]

Good instructions, I get quick and rush at the bottom of release and get above the equator. This something I will focus on, Thanks Kyle

[@michaeldigregorio5389]

great show bringing in amateur bowler and work with how hard it can be.

[@joshuakazfields4374]

This was a very helpful video it’s hard to get the hand to do this all us amateurs swipe. Definitely gonna try this.

[@edwinyong2246]

Applied this during my last session. Averaged 230 for 5 games, setting a new high. Thanks for the tip!

[@johnhahn1275]

Can’t wait to reference this video when I practice. Wish you guys were near me for some lessons!

[@joeybrown6957]

Keeping that V pointed is quality advice. I tried that out while practice with some friends today. Felt different, but it also felt right if you know what I mean. First time attempting to bowl for the first time in 4or 5 years, so it was nice to see this type of video.

[@robinpuppo4682]

Brad, I've been watching your videos for a while, thank you. Also thanks for showing us the correct wrist motion!

[@theMitchOtto]

so how are you supposed to spin the ball and keep your hand or the "V'" straight?

[@jvyyyy222]

I think they mean hold the v straight up until release, instead of trying to do it beforehand

[@IrfanLuqman-s3r]

Spin is naturally happen when you pushing

[@techielopez7678]

That was very clear! Thank you for the helpful techniques. The V and the release are helpful to an amateur like me 😊 Thank you!

[@socoro1234]

great lesson, I think the way Dennis done previously is the correct one (I also try to do the same just a little lower position when release ball). Found some video talking about yo-yo motion and this one is clearly demonstrate.

[@JustChuck1t]

This was a amazing video. Definitely a good pivot for content.

[@matthess76]

I used that tip in league last night and it helped me . The ball was coming off good and it improved my roll. Shot 624. Thanks Guys!!

[@TLOPabloJr]

This was the one I needed to see. If you could do a series of these, that would be really helpful.

[@kylecrespo3336]

I really love these types of videos from you guys

[@bobaybrian]

Love this vid for mom and I as we improve and understand the mechanics

[@CKBowling1]

Dennis and I have similar releases to start. I struggle to get to the inside / yo-yo release. Good for him.

[@1santaever]

Im so glad you did this i have been wanting to learn how to do this

[@s6juggs]

My track is on, great tips on staying behind and the final wrist break/push is the piece I think I have been missing.

[@hawwwgjaw]

Dude! I think i just found the video ive been searching for! Definitely going to add this to my drill. Thank you

[@adelgado2078]

Great tip!!!! with that V finger shape. Helped me A LOT!

[@jeffnewman8261]

LOVE THINS KIND OF VIDEO. VERY HELPFUL!

[@67LOCsiNYC]

Patton Oswald working on his bowling game NICE!!!!!😂

[@evilzus1]

I tried it in my summer league last night little off on my first game with a 158 but my second game improved better 215. It made it so my ball went down lane further and out then hooked thumbs up keep up the good work boys

[@brianbradley9380]

Great video Kyle. Really like the teaching an amateur format.

[@jasonsperry9702]

I can't wait to see more of dennis' s progress. You go D. I'm rooting for you. What's Dennis' s avg right now?

[@arcadesunday4592]

Great video. I've watched this several times since it was posted. Please do a follow up video with Dennis !

[@brando_yh]

thx for this frfr

[@Article36]

I'd love to see a pt2 of this video to see where to go next after figuring out the things you mention in this video!

[@jyee2217]

Thanks for that. I'm going to try that tomorrow during league which is the only time I have to try new things. My teammates may not appreciate it but it is supposed to be a fun league anyway.

[@Wyzz222]

I used the V trick and got a new personal best at 225 :O The hook was much more manageable

[@tomfreebern2556]

Great tips love watching you guys

[@lawnmowerdave]

I really appreciate you sharing this video with us just incase we can use some of these tips ourselves to fix our games

[@andytsui852]

I just have the same issue!! ONE BIG HINT! Thanks Kyle!

[@donnamccullough1375]

I dont have a high average 139-145. I am gonna be bowling today and i will have to try this out. I usually have my pointer finger spread out but i bring it in just before releasing the ball so, this will be interesting. Thank you for the tip

[@bogusphone8000]

When coming from behind the ball, the key is to get the thumb out early. This is done by holding the ball with the base of the thumb with the shaft of the thumb bending backwards. This promotes early thumb removal with the bottom of the swing and delivery entirely on the fingers. With this delivery, the arm can remain straight and stable, with a free swing, with plenty of revs and pin action.

[@roberthenry7933]

Thank you for this Working on making my "V" point towards the pins

[@JuneBugCoy]

Watched the video and tried this last night. Had the front 9 and left a 10 pin in 10th. Spared and struck for 279. Thanks for the video!

[@mattgeiger8247]

Great video man, my son is getting into bowling and it's almost hard to explain a lot of it to him. But you do a beautiful job of it, it's a little more complex than my dad essentially telling me to throw like you're shaking the lanes hand. Lol

[@runnerboy6886]

I don’t normally enjoy the tutorial videos for bowling because most teach the wrong thing or not enough of what they’re intending to teach..but..this one is a GREAT video to show to how INSTANTLY widen Dennis’ rotational guage. Congrats.

[@DreadPirateRobbo]

Have to say, watched this and used exactly what you had Dennis do at league (finals) last night and it gave me just a bit more revs and better angle than I was getting previously. Practice and first half of game 1 was a bit weird feeling, but I'd been in a slump the last few weeks and it made quite the difference. (I should note, I recently switched to a Sarge Easter grip to deal with pain in my ring finger, so my revs had been down just a little bit)

[@SirJoelsuf1]

In many cases, Sarge Easter is totally unnecessary and may actually reduce your RPMs. A guy on here called Hit it Harder explains it. His tutorial is as good as this one.

[@CharlieRicker24]

Thank you SO MUCH for this video! Returned to league bowling this past fall after 35 years away, and gradually improved all winter. But I plateaued and found myself struggling with a consistent release. My average is 156 and last night I used this "V" technique and felt consistent all evening with my release. Rolled 192, 195 and 171 (a couple splits brought it down). THANK YOU!! 🎳

[@mustangmagik]

This was a good video. Short and sweet. But… great info! I worked on this a lot last season, I am starting to see the scores improve

[@mr.tuckers2848]

Thanks for the advice. Greatly appreciated! What brand of bowling ball is that? Design looks really cool!

[@coffeyscarburetors6437]

Cant wait to try this. I already put my hand in that v shape. But i didnt realize that i shouldnt be getting on the side of the ball. I also think trying to twist my hand around to that side just throws off my consistency of where my ball lands on top of less predictable revs and lower revs. Im definitely trying this and i hope i can finally get my 200 game tonight.

[@ND-9]

This is exactly what I needed. Gonna take a lot of reps tho. Thx fellas 🎳

[@mikelombard21]

Exactly what I needed too. Amazing video.

[@joshwhorley8148]

PURE GOLD HERE, BOYS!

[@rakeshthakur2217]

Great video, man! I'm a seasoned athlete, but I have zero experience in this area. Still, I really grasped the key essence from it!"

[@michealpatrick1739]

This was very informative. Gives me some thing to work on.

[@rygibby]

Great video as always. I apologize if it’s mentioned in this video but in regards to ball reaction, what does staying behind it do and why is it important? Is it for control, retaining power, or something else?

[@405adam]

It reduces the angle of entry. If you stay completely up the back of the ball, it will go straight as an arrow. The more axis rotation you create, the more it will hook

[@iamtotomai]

i play straight ball bowling, and back up as well, will try this soon 😊