SHOGUN Episode 4 Ending Explained

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@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
This was definitely the best episode of the season so far! It very much felt like the end of the beginning and I can't wait to see that chaos that's about to unfold! Let me know what you thought of the episode below!
@ssotkow
@ssotkow 6 ай бұрын
I haven't read the novel, but I'm totally getting the vibe that Yabushige, the semi-comic relief Uncle, was written to become one of the fan favorites and a potential dark horse, who unfortunately, may become the unlikely turncoat hero... giving his life to protect our main protagonists. Yabushige's probable sacrifice as a dispensable character, though much more significant than plot cannon fodders, to provide that emotional gut punch for audience when called upon. He is a man who'd choose his death. The uncle's current situation is similar to being caught between the proverbial waves and rock.
@greeneffectltd
@greeneffectltd 6 ай бұрын
Lol .. My man did you miss the part where the son of the "shocked" jabushiki (i think his name was) told him that he has a plan? The dude is in on it and is an ambitious snake. I love the character, but he is not shocked in the end. He too wanted that war, because it is in his interest to be valuable to someone, because it will keep him from insta death. Lord Toranaga is absolutely aware I think of the inner nature of his "ally", that by the way has done nothing that is not in Lord Toranaga's interest. (sorry for my shit English, it's my 3-rd language)
@colingoldie9173
@colingoldie9173 6 ай бұрын
The story is written as it is, but cannon? Toranage needs infantry, and those cannon (not that they had the range) wouldn't scratch Osaka.
@takuh6830
@takuh6830 6 ай бұрын
I am Japanese. It seems that some people are making a fuss about the lack of black people in SHOGUN. Several years before this era, there was a black samurai named Yasuke who served under Nobunaga. However, he was released from his samurai status at the same time as Nobunaga's assassination. Before him, there was no other black person in Japan. Also, in the era of this drama, only Europeans, let alone Americans, came to Japan. Also,There were no black aristocrats in Europe at that time.
@greeneffectltd
@greeneffectltd 6 ай бұрын
@@takuh6830 My Japanese friend .. people are just stupid and don't care about reality if it goes against their own personal beliefs .. So don't waste your time to explain nothing to them. To me Japan has been and always will be the ICHIBAN !!!
@TokyoAlex
@TokyoAlex 6 ай бұрын
Early in the story, you think it is the John Blackthorne story. As it progresses, you begin to feel like John is more of an observer of other people's stories.
@BrokenNoah
@BrokenNoah 6 ай бұрын
He's the audience surrogate. We as the audience are supposed to be looking and asking questions about the world from his POV because everyone else already has a history separate from his character urgency at least at the beginning.
@solarmaru49
@solarmaru49 6 ай бұрын
Welcome to basic writing
@benotyourboss
@benotyourboss 6 ай бұрын
@@solarmaru49that is nit basic…
@ripbozo5306
@ripbozo5306 6 ай бұрын
@@solarmaru49 might be basic but its not easy to do right
@enriquesingson3433
@enriquesingson3433 6 ай бұрын
Very well said
@stylian6805
@stylian6805 6 ай бұрын
Episode 1 :10/10 Episode 2 :10/10 Episode 3 :10/10 Episode 4 :10/10 OH my God can't wait for next episode !!! 😃😲😎
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Genuinely this!
@arcticredpanda4598
@arcticredpanda4598 6 ай бұрын
Ep 3 was a loser
@stylian6805
@stylian6805 6 ай бұрын
All opinions respected 😉☦️💪
@thediner8929
@thediner8929 6 ай бұрын
Top it off with massive bukake session. 😂
@Las_cacas
@Las_cacas 6 ай бұрын
Episode 4... 20/10
@andrewquejano746
@andrewquejano746 6 ай бұрын
The beheading was savage as f.. 10/10 best episode for the season
@bigpops4279
@bigpops4279 6 ай бұрын
How is it the best episode of the season if the season isn’t even over yet
@andrewquejano746
@andrewquejano746 6 ай бұрын
@@bigpops4279 Insolence! I demand compensation from your reply. Proceeds to behead 😂
@stylian6805
@stylian6805 6 ай бұрын
​@andrewquejano746 Hahahahaha spot on 😂
@toranaga1969
@toranaga1969 6 ай бұрын
The line from book regarding Mariko's family name is "as long as men live in these islands the name Akechi will be foul"
@bercerus
@bercerus 6 ай бұрын
They didnt change Mitsuhide name in the book?
@toranaga1969
@toranaga1969 6 ай бұрын
@@bercerus They have changed almost everybody's name from the book in this miniseries. They mostly lengthened the names in an attempt to make them more authentic for the time period.
@kansairobot2015
@kansairobot2015 6 ай бұрын
In the book he is Akechi Jinsai@@bercerus
@billdew945
@billdew945 6 ай бұрын
I like how Johns palate is used to fermented food my guess always being on ship you need food with shelf life and wont go bad fast and how the consort and translator both thought he would not like natto due to smell and taste he loved it instead. Consort proving her loyalty when pointing pistol was cool to see. She has purpose being with John we see loyalty for first time John has allies he can trust
@tobiasrietveld3819
@tobiasrietveld3819 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was like "the guy's accustomed to 17th century naval cuisine, a bit of fermented beans really isn't going to faze him!".
@DavidDrew-n6z
@DavidDrew-n6z 6 ай бұрын
He didn’t love it. His face said all! But he was coming to understand that he must embrace everything.
@stephenmoney4722
@stephenmoney4722 6 ай бұрын
i think the main thing toranaga’s son did was make most of japan side with ishido. using a cannon to kill a messenger samurai is the most dishonorable thing to do
@PROVOCATEURSK
@PROVOCATEURSK 6 ай бұрын
Shamefur dispray even.
@Patrick-cc7qm
@Patrick-cc7qm 6 ай бұрын
Depend on how you present the fact to the public. He can still use the excuse that the messenger insulted him and his father honor and deem them hostile enough to allow retaliation.
@GGGmod1
@GGGmod1 6 ай бұрын
Oh god she was wrong. Its not just war. Its Total War!!!​@@PROVOCATEURSK
@GM-kj5xw
@GM-kj5xw 6 ай бұрын
@@Patrick-cc7qm Then you clearly don't know what honor mean for Japanese.
@CyberWAmpi
@CyberWAmpi 6 ай бұрын
Or he showed his troops how powerfull they are, meaning they will side with him.
@khiraas5656
@khiraas5656 6 ай бұрын
How many times will you watch first 4 episodes before next tuesday? Yes.
@CODtpk
@CODtpk 6 ай бұрын
Man... Can we all agree whenever any japanese series Sanada-san works with, it's 💯 banger series 😂
@yoma32
@yoma32 6 ай бұрын
Toranaga's model, Tokugawa Ieyasu, is actually like Toranaga in the drama. He was very patient and clever, yet charismatic at the same time. Since I'm a fan of Tokugawa, I'm rediscovering his charm through this drama. I cannot wait for the next show!
@maniacal1870
@maniacal1870 6 ай бұрын
This series is blowing me away ( pun intended ). FX seems to have this ability to pump out surprising, insanely good series out of nowhere. The dude playing Blackthorn especially, I can't believe I've never heard of him before. He has so much presence I don't understand how anyone could stand on-scene with him.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Yeah FX are the dark horses when it comes to TV. They do produce some real gems. Gems that do just come out of the blue
@justonecornetto80
@justonecornetto80 6 ай бұрын
With the success of Game of Thrones, Shogun was asking to be remade for the modern audience as it has many of the same ingredients but with a real world historical background. Even better that the series hasn't butchered novel but I suspect that's because James Clavell's daughter is one of the executive producers and she's known to be protective of her father's work.
@NoCluYT
@NoCluYT 5 ай бұрын
@@stevebubbie1126 the whole fidgety thing makes sense though. He's a man in a foreign land, doesn't know customs, and is meant to stick out like a sore thumb. I don't know much about the book(s), but it all works for a series
@timbell6870
@timbell6870 6 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this show but won't be able to watch it until tonight. So i will tell you in advance great review and insights because they always are fantastic. Well done BrainPilot!
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! Enjoy the episode, it's a good one!
@skittlesrequiem4362
@skittlesrequiem4362 6 ай бұрын
Mariko was already married to Buntaro when the whole betrayal thing happened. They were married for about 2 months, he could divorce her after that but instead he sent her away for 8 years
@kansairobot2015
@kansairobot2015 6 ай бұрын
Yes he did her that courtesy
@skittlesrequiem4362
@skittlesrequiem4362 6 ай бұрын
@@kansairobot2015 If he'd divorce her at that time she would be killed
@kansairobot2015
@kansairobot2015 6 ай бұрын
The problem was she wanted to die. @@skittlesrequiem4362
@franciscomontiel1163
@franciscomontiel1163 6 ай бұрын
This serie will end with the samurai ragnarok; sekigahara. Damn. If a cannonball just looked like this can't wait to see that battle
@kagerouge9007
@kagerouge9007 6 ай бұрын
Skigahara 1600, kino af
@lawbinson
@lawbinson 6 ай бұрын
Giving Fuji the gun was a great move to show that Blackthorn was not her owner. She has agency if she really wants to end him in his sleep.
@michaellockhart554
@michaellockhart554 6 ай бұрын
I actually liked this deviation from the book, fleshes out the Fujiko character much better than in the book or mini series. Besides she was absolutely Bad Ass
@KingRat71
@KingRat71 6 ай бұрын
Fujiko is samurai class so she knows how to use weapons and would just kill him with a tanto if she wanted. She doesnt need a gun.
@BluegrassDaimyo
@BluegrassDaimyo 6 ай бұрын
I remember the first series in 1979. It cemented a curiosity, fascination and love of Japanese culture. Now 45 years later, I’m obsessed with Koi, have over 1,000 Kokeshi and love sushi and ramen. Have 3 grown half Japanese children, 5 3/4 Japanese grandchildren and another on the way in June. I’ve lived in Japan for 34 of the past 42 years. I still love this show, this is better than the original! And Mariko-San is absolutely amazing, the character development and her sheer beauty!
@queennubianuniverse
@queennubianuniverse 6 ай бұрын
You may have been Japanese in a past life!
@BluegrassDaimyo
@BluegrassDaimyo 6 ай бұрын
Hai Sou desu@@queennubianuniverse
@claudiaw2078
@claudiaw2078 6 ай бұрын
Fujisan has ball of steel for pointing the gun at them🙌🏻🙌🏻✨️✨️, i respect her so much at that moment
@scorpzgca
@scorpzgca 6 ай бұрын
The ending was insane a sign for war !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Such a good ending!
@bf61marc35
@bf61marc35 6 ай бұрын
I wish they would not kill off Fuji-Sama. I'm totally adoring her.
@indiegameshark2520
@indiegameshark2520 6 ай бұрын
Shessssh IT IS WAR!
@watermunteconomie3938
@watermunteconomie3938 6 ай бұрын
Mariko is played to the tee.. but I also was awesome struck by the action and scenes with John and fujisan.. she is fantastic. Every episode feels like 5 minutes and thus and our short.. finally something worth watching and getting excited about.
@josephmccartney5951
@josephmccartney5951 6 ай бұрын
bruh have u even read the book or watched the old show? mariko is not even portrayed right. fuji has more romantic chemistry with blackthorn then the person that is supposed to be his love interest lol.
@RajDeelish
@RajDeelish 6 ай бұрын
Really dynamic storyline with so many characters developing around the flirtations of war on the horizon.
@Nick-hi9gx
@Nick-hi9gx 6 ай бұрын
I haven't read the book, but I just correctly guess (and verified it) who her family is, and why she is thus with Toranaga. I won't give that bit away, but the second she said "it (her family name) is well-known in Japan", but it is one she absolutely has to hide, I knew who she was. And the fact that an Englishman is now entangled with basically Tokugawa, gives her away if you know Japanese history of the period. Which is why, the last scene, is her absolute horror at war coming again. Her clan lost everything, literally everything but her (and historically the character she is based on became essentially a political prisoner) the last time two great armies fought to unify Japan and be Shogun. It also makes sense why she was married to Toda, who is loosely based on the Honda clan.
@iamscoutstfu
@iamscoutstfu 6 ай бұрын
That was a very thoughtful gift...
@jimjim2272
@jimjim2272 6 ай бұрын
Blackthorne's elevation to the status of Hatamoto is not just a reflection of his personal growth and adaptation but also a strategic move by Toranaga to utilize Blackthorne's foreignness as an advantage in his campaigns. As a Hatamoto, Blackthorne is granted a fief, becomes a key figure in Toranaga's court, and plays a crucial role in the daimyo's ambitious plans.
@Giggly_Puff
@Giggly_Puff 6 ай бұрын
I feel Nagakado just trying to look out for his dad the best way he knows how. Foolish? A bit. But pretty ballsy. He was right in a sense that any ‘information’ taken by the enemy would deem detrimental to his father’s chances of success. He just wants to make Father proud and to be dependable as the next heir. But in the eyes of Samurai… it is deemed savage and cowardly. But war is War.. us in the present wouldn’t see that. But back then it was dishonorable. I‘m curious to find out what his father’s response would be…
@-AtomsPhere-
@-AtomsPhere- 6 ай бұрын
Finally, we have a worthy successor to Succession! This is THE new great show!
@tomswift9542
@tomswift9542 6 ай бұрын
Pretty thin. I noticed you did not address the idea that these newly trained artillerymen could fire shotgun like ordinance with such precision to within yards of friendlies without hitting them . See what happens to the Virginians in Armistead’s brigade when they approach the Union held wall at Gettysburg to get an idea of the effect of the type of rounds supposedly fired by the Japanese .
@jaycee4504
@jaycee4504 6 ай бұрын
Great show on many levels, cant wait 😊
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Me neither
@romanroque8866
@romanroque8866 6 ай бұрын
The best episode out right now you dam right thanks for the video great explanation I’m hooked 🎣
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! It was a great episode for sure
@meccianoporter
@meccianoporter 6 ай бұрын
MY fav scene when he say i will let your father know about this... i dont care... in fact i want him to know.... i am son of Yoshii toranaga... Yoshii Nakagado!!!!
@gregoryyong3810
@gregoryyong3810 6 ай бұрын
"It's war." So fucking epic.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Such a powerful final line!
@werewolvesdeathmetal
@werewolvesdeathmetal 6 ай бұрын
I'm guessing that misstep of Toranaga's son at the end of the episode means that they lost the opportunity to send Yabushige back to Osaka with the messengers, where he would be forced to commit seppuku. They're kind of stuck with him now.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Yeah that is true!
@Smallie__
@Smallie__ 6 ай бұрын
Two words ."Pure perfection"👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@samfisher646
@samfisher646 6 ай бұрын
me and my parents have been watching every episode together and the final cannon scene shocked us all so much lmao
@Calinotch06
@Calinotch06 6 ай бұрын
I don't know who surprised me more Nagakado, Mariko, or Fuji.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
This episode was just full of them!
@beadragon1048
@beadragon1048 6 ай бұрын
This show has been amazing! It has all the hallmarks of an Epic like GOT, sans the dragons. Thx for covering it!
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
I totally agree! Glad you're enjoying the videos
@mariuspetrea5360
@mariuspetrea5360 6 ай бұрын
great video mate, beautifuly explained.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed!
@marikotheisen4385
@marikotheisen4385 6 ай бұрын
I was named Mariko after this character in the book shogun my mom was reading when she was pregnant ❤
@theodore9668
@theodore9668 6 ай бұрын
Another great breakdown
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@maudalmusicalmachines3541
@maudalmusicalmachines3541 6 ай бұрын
I know the story... *the novel* ... very well. And I've been loving this so much. Pretty much have had every epi playing on repeat almost... until now. Episode 4 is fine, if a bit rushed about Mariko and Blackthorn's time in Ajiro. Still... It's great... right up until the writers blow the story all to hell with Toranaga's son turning cannons on Jozen. As far as I can tell, with this one completely unnecessary re-write they have made it impossible to tell the rest of the story even close to how it was written. They've done So. Freaking. Well. with it so far I just don't understand why they had to do this! I honestly have no idea how they can possibly get it back on track. They made *such* a big deal about being authentic. And I love that! I just wish they could've managed to be as faithful to the writer.
@takuh6830
@takuh6830 6 ай бұрын
I am Japanese. It seems that some people are making a fuss about the lack of black people in SHOGUN. Several years before this era, there was a black samurai named Yasuke who served under Nobunaga. However, he was released from his samurai status at the same time as Nobunaga's assassination. Before him, there was no other black person in Japan. Also, in the era of this drama, only Europeans, let alone Americans, came to Japan. Also,There were no black aristocrats in Europe at that time.
@thediner8929
@thediner8929 6 ай бұрын
Don’t bow to the wokies.
@ObiWanShinobi67
@ObiWanShinobi67 6 ай бұрын
Literally haven't seen anyone say that anywhere. It's your head.
@kitamcguire2509
@kitamcguire2509 6 ай бұрын
As a black person… we definitely aren’t saying that. As an American… Of course there wouldn’t be Americans. It was 1600. There was barely an “America” at that point. There were still a bunch of native Americans on this land (as it should) settlements in America at that point were barely thriving. So why would there be Americans?
@KrispyKrink
@KrispyKrink 6 ай бұрын
I believe that was Kiku that showed up in John’s room.
@tomswift9542
@tomswift9542 6 ай бұрын
I guess I’m not surprised to get a response from someone who uses “duh” in a message . What I should have spelled for those who need explanations in big, easy, words, is while knowing that the guns came from Blackthorn’s ship, I find it very difficult to believe that all of the logistics and stealth needed to move those guns could have gone undetected by Blackthorn or Mariko
@shadow6024
@shadow6024 6 ай бұрын
The 8 fold fence thing gotta be related to the 8 gates in Naruto. I wonder if they both are drawn from the same thing
@WesleySnipes-he7uk
@WesleySnipes-he7uk 6 ай бұрын
Can we make a petition to get it all released in one go?!
@토론배틀tv
@토론배틀tv 6 ай бұрын
Japan already used and made their own guns in 1600. Imjin war(Korea-Japan war 1592) was a gun fight already full of guns and cannon tactics. This show does not check the historical reality.
@peterl3417
@peterl3417 6 ай бұрын
They pointed out their and Portugese guns were inaccurate compared to Dutch/English. This is historically correct as the Dutch were the ones creating state of the art weapons and infantry tactics at that time in history, and the English used accurate gunfire to wreck the Spanish armada
@ELITESrBAMOFOS945
@ELITESrBAMOFOS945 6 ай бұрын
TORANAGA-SAMA! TORANAGA-SAMA! TORANAGA-SAMA! TORANAGA-SAMA!
@HousePlant_Ambient
@HousePlant_Ambient 6 ай бұрын
My gf instantly was interested while watching it with me, it is so good. Can easily be the next Game of Thrones.
@Innovate22
@Innovate22 6 ай бұрын
Yabushige Sama Hoooooo! Toranaga Sama Hooooooo! On a loop 100x 😂
@phyllishahart6111
@phyllishahart6111 6 ай бұрын
So Marigo’s dad stained the family name bc he was a king slayer?
@m33p0
@m33p0 6 ай бұрын
looks like Yabu and nephew are cooked no matter who wins.
@WyantWin
@WyantWin 6 ай бұрын
How do I get my subtitles like that on Disney plus?
@traitorjoe8778
@traitorjoe8778 6 ай бұрын
In the book it's a bit bloodier. SPOILER In the book Jozen had his guts shot out but lived. He was not slain, instead they let the village dogs eat him alive.
@ulrichkristensen4087
@ulrichkristensen4087 6 ай бұрын
Young Toranagas son loosing all his Kleos/honour in one foul go....like a greek play
@jormungandr4690
@jormungandr4690 6 ай бұрын
They kinda fucked up by not skipping Blackthorne Seppuku scene from the novel ,because that is the point where Mariko changes her mind about him and shows his character and development much more.
@BlueT1000
@BlueT1000 6 ай бұрын
Episode 2 had an unrealistic female assassin scene. Episode 3 had an unrealistic Mariko killing samurai while wearing a kimono. Episode 4 had the excellent scene of a man being seduced and then manipulated by a female character. That is what makes the female characters dangerous. Not swinging halberds around. Well done, episode 4.
@durellbroadnax5196
@durellbroadnax5196 6 ай бұрын
Why did you mention Fuji?
@happytimes10191
@happytimes10191 6 ай бұрын
It was definitely her. Turn up gamma settings on your monitor and it clearly is her.
@Sherudons
@Sherudons 6 ай бұрын
I can't continue watching this, it's so unfaithful to the source it should be called loosely based on a reimagination of shogun, it's as if they made a parody, all the characters are wrong, they act and are portrayed as if some horrible skin walker took their places. I only got half way into episode 2 and just said yeah, the actors are great, even the production value, it's just like world war Z, not his book. Ya know what I'll even go into detail from what you picked up on with how and what is different, start off with yabu and jozen, this was planned, they intentionally planned to provoke toranaga's son naga to do the deed with his mock battle, jozen also died by being stabbed repeatedly over a long period while his remaining men that didn't get shot committed seppuku, yabu had already decided to side with toranaga well before that, or in the least betray him later, yabu was never concerned about jozen's death since it was naga who refused a direct order to let him go and live, this directly absolves yabu from all consequences no matter what. In the books yabu doesn't regret his choice of toranaga until the regents formed up for the third time, since they added a member to replace him weeks later who also resigned and was killed badly with his family by ishido for invalidating the council orders of impeachment the first time... sent an impeachment notice with toranaga's half brother and then accepted with a 28 day notice to arrive, and he managed to constantly put that off until the council basically disintegrated in betraying each other Yabu commands blackthorn learns the language in six months of he will have the village destroyed and all it's occupants crucified, he had a desire to learn before it and learned a little from the monk in the prison... who he never told he was english, the prison was indoors, cramped to a point of men on top of each other, all either naked or close too, and the monk was a friar was both old, sickly and mad. Blackthorn never gifted fujiko his guns, he gave them to her only to stop them from being taken by omi at yabu's order on the first night, she pulls it on him in the same instance when omi tries to take it from her, by all accounts he was forced to either back down or get shot, he backed down and reported that to yabu, in where he would be told he handled it badly and should have just had them taken at a later time instead of force the issue. Later he keeps them and gives another to fujiko, who learns to use one from another unknown person, she never uses one though. By this time omi had already completely made his plans known to kill yabu to his wife and mother, it was due to insults of having kept him and his family waiting for him like peasants, wasting the feast they presented and not offering any excuses. This mariko is not the book version, this one is outspoken, not reserved, the book one was cold and almost a spider with how she chose her words, diminutive, obedient and most of all, silent unless spoken to, this one is opinionated and loud, she's gone from the interpreter and lady samurai to... who is this. I could go on for a thousand more words and not have all the inaccuracies, so at the end of my rant, this is not shogun by james clavell, this is FX's reimagination of a modern take.
@ObiWanShinobi67
@ObiWanShinobi67 6 ай бұрын
Another cringe purist.
@carlosdcpcg
@carlosdcpcg 6 ай бұрын
Show is awesome.
@TheRandomASDF
@TheRandomASDF 6 ай бұрын
The episode was not bad. But this is the worst one for me so far. It moved way too quickly. Better let John settle down in this episode and slowly accept his new position by the end of it. Remember, he was promised his ship and men. Marikos intimate scene with John was also absolutly too fast and kinda cliche. With them both mentioning their families in the last episode, I was hoping for maybe a hinted love interest at best. The „intrigue“ is also done without proper setup from previous episodes and feels rushed. One scene with the nephew and another with Toronaga's son and that's it? And Toronaga‘s „war speech“ should have been saved for a proper army/assembly. I think those were mostly peasant soldiers and very few samurais. I still liked the episode, but yeah.. everything felt kinda rushed.
@daryllndemmayah4874
@daryllndemmayah4874 6 ай бұрын
I won’t debate the Romance, but everything is based with reason. Toranaga could not trust Yabushiges army and retainers. He made that speech to further convinced them to join his cause. So that they betray him, further forcing yabushige to pledge loyalty to him since he is in place where he can’t be loyal. Ishido saved his life while they fought in trying to conquer Korea. While Toranage gave him the power he has now. Homie can’t decide between his old boss or his new boss. Both of them made him into the man he is. He knows they are perks to joining either side. But he wants to survive and he is stuck figuring who will win. So the speech was to further back him and his Army into a corner of fully supporting him. The one scenes with yabushiges nephew and tornaga son, has a lot of intreague. Yabushige’s nephew has a lot of insecurities and he is the same age as toranags son who has insecurities of himself. Both are in the shadows of their father figures. Both are also extreme of their father figures both are trying to prove themselves. Yabuhsige a great warrior, not really that good of a leader, is very indecisive in his decisions and support at times. is always trying to play both sides. His nephew is more decisive than yabushige, and is smarter as he comes up with ideas that influence yabushige who takes credit for those ideas. Remember earlier its was his nephew that convinced him not to reveal the ship to toranaga.Yabushige doesn’t really want to be seen as a traitor or betrayer.Yabushige nephew as we can see can be a snake, will do whatever it takes to accomplish his goals and is more of a leader than yabushige and is more decisive than yabushige and toranags son is just as patient as his father but even more extreme to the point where it is regarded as timidity and indecisiveness e can’t think. For his own, both showed in this episode they are starting to gain confidence in their abilities and strengths. Toranaga son had to kill the messenger because if he didn’t it will lead to Ishido having knowing their advantage. Also Yabushige was about to sell them out to Ishido by revealing their abilities. Yabushige knew that if he went he will die. He did the showing to preserve himself that he survives and he can be on good standing with Ishido and also avoiding a war that Toranaga is not ready yet. Staying in good terms with Toranaga, Toranaga son sees this. Knows that Yabushige is indecisive, could be a hindrance to them later die to him being an extremely valuable wild card. Made the decision to kill the messenger to further commit Yabushige against his will to their cause. Now Yabushige can’t play both sides. Also Ishido won’t know of thier adavantage. He eliminated two problems with one idea. But will cost them dearly in the short term. Long term it might lead them to winning the whole thing. A fully committed yabushige with his army all be it against his wishes will be very beneficial.
@TheRandomASDF
@TheRandomASDF 6 ай бұрын
@@daryllndemmayah4874 Your point about the speech is good. I haven't thought about that. It seemed like he gave a speech to basically nonames. But yeah, your point makes sense. About the intrigue: My issue is with the pacing of the intrigue itself. The woman whispers something into the ear of Yabushige's nephew and some scenes later we see him talking to Toronaga's son, whom we haven't seen him talking to till that moment (I think). It would have been better if we had some scenes of them together before, in which they would talk about their fathers and so on. And I think you give Toronaga's son too much credit. In my opinion, he acted on impulse after talking to Yabushige's nephew. I don't think that he did that to force Yabushige to choose a side. He just wanted to do something that he thought was right. In which case was: kill the man who insulted (did he actually?) his father and is an enemy anyway. But another thing came up while thinking about all that: Didn't the woman plant the idea of him (Yabushige's nephew) replacing his father? What does provoking the son of Toronaga into doing what he did help him in anyway?
@tajabaho1
@tajabaho1 6 ай бұрын
Shogun EP4 ending: Holy shit. end
@greg.peepeeface
@greg.peepeeface 6 ай бұрын
I'm Japanese American, so watching the part of dude eating natto is hilarious because that is one food that supposedly most non-Japanese have issue with, although I think it's only slimy like okra, but the smell and flavor aren't all that strong, especially when you douse it with some soy sauce.
@unathiburrow9791
@unathiburrow9791 6 ай бұрын
Great episode. Nay, a spectacular episode! Buuuuuut, not a fan of how predictable the love story is between Blackthorne and Mariko - Super boring and borderline lame. Also, the Blackthorne actor didn't overact which is a welcomed change
@jordanlt69
@jordanlt69 6 ай бұрын
In one of the pr videos they interview the actor and actress of Mariko and John and they decided they didn't want the romance aspect of the real story to be so prevalent in this show.
@jordanstapleton3180
@jordanstapleton3180 6 ай бұрын
Once she saw that he liked stinky, sticky fermented beans she knew this was the man for her.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@otorishingen8600
@otorishingen8600 6 ай бұрын
You forgot FUJI's moment
@jbud475
@jbud475 6 ай бұрын
MC creating his harem already lmao
@robertpitchford1786
@robertpitchford1786 6 ай бұрын
Does anyone else think Blackthorn sounds exactly like Sir Richard Burton?
@sikm760
@sikm760 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. That staccato cadence as he delivers his lines took me back to George and Martha, “musical beds is the faculty sport around here…”
@TheLumpyShield
@TheLumpyShield 6 ай бұрын
The "courtesan" was def Mariko. If you turn your brightness up you can clearly see it's her and well ... her lady bits ...
@TheLumpyShield
@TheLumpyShield 6 ай бұрын
@@stevebubbie1126 bro, turn up your brightness. it's her. you see her naked and everything. Unless you're saying all asians look the same ...
@BIGNA281
@BIGNA281 6 ай бұрын
Courtesan
@greeneffectltd
@greeneffectltd 6 ай бұрын
Lol .. My man did you miss the part where the son of the "shocked" jabushiki (i think his name was) told him that he has a plan? The dude is in on it and is an ambitious snake. I love the character, but he is not shocked in the end. He too wanted that war, because it is in his interest to be valuable to someone, because it will keep him from insta death. Lord Toranaga is absolutely aware I think of the inner nature of his "ally", that by the way has done nothing that is not in Lord Toranaga's interest. (sorry for my shit English, it's my 3-rd language)
@SavageDragon999
@SavageDragon999 6 ай бұрын
How do people consistently manage to mispronounce name when in the show it's constantly YABUSHIGE, not YABUSHIGEEEEE.
@BIGNA281
@BIGNA281 6 ай бұрын
I just want my men and guns 😂
@ivanrusev4097
@ivanrusev4097 6 ай бұрын
To everyone who will spend 50 hours watching explanation videos - go and read the book.
@rahmatarifian1484
@rahmatarifian1484 6 ай бұрын
Ishido akan sangat marah utusannya di bantai anaknya toranaga 😂
@alc4117
@alc4117 6 ай бұрын
Moral of the story. Kids suck
@barneyohara7804
@barneyohara7804 6 ай бұрын
JESUS loves you and died for your sin and on the third day he rose again repent and trust in him
@davidgray8654
@davidgray8654 6 ай бұрын
I just don't get this, why do we need someone to 'explain' what we've just seen? Or why would you listen to someone explain what has happened before you see it. We have a mind of our own, I am perceptive, I understand things, I think I can manage. Thank you very much. (I didn't listen to your take at all)
@janzkranjski
@janzkranjski 6 ай бұрын
No woman samurai? No black samurai? That's offensive!
@Khanh.Nguyen369
@Khanh.Nguyen369 6 ай бұрын
Romance is so unnecessary
@terry43
@terry43 6 ай бұрын
Some really Terrible scenes in this episode,, particularly the 2 gun's scene felt awkward and really out of place can't say if it's terrible acting or a rushed story line,,, it was really such a random scene..
@manK2022
@manK2022 6 ай бұрын
Siper cannons... stupidity. It killed not only enemies, but also logic of tvseries... Compare with a book .. Disappointment - poor soundtrack, lack of genius loci, dull colours, actors without charisma - incomparatible with TV Shogun 80. .
@toranaga1969
@toranaga1969 6 ай бұрын
The more I watch, the more disappointed I get in it.
@penegakkeadilanpembasmikej5022
@penegakkeadilanpembasmikej5022 6 ай бұрын
You again go, watch porn or something
@hondimon69
@hondimon69 6 ай бұрын
Why?
@toranaga1969
@toranaga1969 6 ай бұрын
@@hondimon69 Because this version is plot driven whereas the original was character driven. They are glossing over a lot of the political intrigue and even some things that provide depth to the Character's
@hondimon69
@hondimon69 6 ай бұрын
@@toranaga1969 thank, im intrigued about the novel, seem very good
@acrane5280
@acrane5280 6 ай бұрын
Show is dope af halo season 2 is also where it at
@josephmccartney5951
@josephmccartney5951 6 ай бұрын
when fuji and blackthorn have more romantic chemistry then mariko and blackthorn. how the show manages to make u root for fuji and not for mariko even tho we know he ends up with mariko is wild. i wouldn't be opposed to them changing the whole thing up and having him be with fuji.
@AbdulAlhazred-l2l
@AbdulAlhazred-l2l 6 ай бұрын
Dwarf wars.🤣🤣🤣 A 16th-century samurai was usually very slim and ranging from 160 to 165 centimetres (5'3″ to 5'5″) in height. Japanese native horses are small -- at under 147 cm at the shoulder. It's like a donkey. Samurai can't afford metal armours because Japan doesn't have enough iron and they spend their precious iron on making swords. Don't be fooled by those TV shows. In reality, It's like hobbits wearing bamboo armours and riding cute donkeys to war.🤭🤭🤭
@FireElFreak
@FireElFreak 6 ай бұрын
Nice way to disrespect not only a culture but the stature of a whole group of people, amazing.
@AbdulAlhazred-l2l
@AbdulAlhazred-l2l 6 ай бұрын
@@FireElFreak Hard facts.
@FireElFreak
@FireElFreak 6 ай бұрын
@@AbdulAlhazred-l2l Hobbits are 3-4 foot tall lmao, and trained samurai would put up a fight against many armies regardless of the size they were. I just don’t know why you even had to leave this comment if a toddler had a gun he would still murder you regardless of you being 10 feet tall 🤨
@ジェラシー侍-m2c
@ジェラシー侍-m2c 6 ай бұрын
It is bigger than the horses of Genghis Khan and Alexander the Great, who struck fear into the world. To begin with, even the largest Arab horse in the world in the 16th and 17th centuries was less than 147 cm.
@AbdulAlhazred-l2l
@AbdulAlhazred-l2l 6 ай бұрын
@@ジェラシー侍-m2c Shang Tsung told you that.😏
@Silenced_by_nazi_youtube
@Silenced_by_nazi_youtube 6 ай бұрын
Ok wait. So is it a good thing that the son attacked?
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Well, it's fast tracked the war now. It was inevitable that one was going to happen, but it might just mean that Toranaga's men aren't prepared!
@el_bokyto
@el_bokyto 6 ай бұрын
@brainpilot he is ready. In episode 1 you can feel the fear in the room when Toranaga enters the chamber of the Taiko. Ishido then says that Toranaga has been prepairing and had expanded his fief (preparing for war). Toranaga Sama! Hope he will become the Shogun and when Yaechiyo reaches 16 he will make him the Taiko.
@justonecornetto80
@justonecornetto80 6 ай бұрын
Not from his father's point of view because he wanted to bring more allies to his side before going to war with the other regents. There's also the issue with the killing of messengers which was regarded as highly taboo in Japan at that time.
@BigDaddyCruz
@BigDaddyCruz 6 ай бұрын
The wife pointing the gun at the dude’s head was a serious, “Oh fuck yeah!” moment!
@andresdelarosa4017
@andresdelarosa4017 6 ай бұрын
I was like oh shit I didnt know she was like that 😂😂
@thefirstofthelastones8952
@thefirstofthelastones8952 6 ай бұрын
She was gonna bust a cap... Before busting caps were even a thing!
@SoldierSpiderx
@SoldierSpiderx 6 ай бұрын
she early my resect after that shit she like he my lord now and I died protect him
@tikolopez8884
@tikolopez8884 6 ай бұрын
Onna Bugeisha, Women Samurai were trained from a young age just as the men were. Women die on the sword just like the men, whether they are on the battlefield or not. So, they train in halberd, archery, and blade work. They were fiercer than the men in many cases. Case in pointe.
@cali_cal
@cali_cal 6 ай бұрын
she's smart. no men ego involved so things got settled down
@shouayang6518
@shouayang6518 6 ай бұрын
This is perhaps one of rare instants of seeing how terrifiying how cannons are depicted. Usualy in oldder films a cannon blast as a simple explosion on the ground and people fell down. But here you see several people ripped apart due to chain shot and so accrately. So seeing those men get ripped in half must been a horror to witniss.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Yeah it was horrific to see!
@TH_Sofa
@TH_Sofa 6 ай бұрын
Wasn’t expecting to see in live action what chainshot and grapeshot does to horses and people xd
@ICU1337
@ICU1337 6 ай бұрын
@@TH_Sofayea that was... gruesome...
@tomswift9542
@tomswift9542 6 ай бұрын
This is crap. Where did the canons that did all the damage come from ? The smoke from their firing is seen in the far distance. Chain and grape are used in decreasing ranges of approaching targets. The idea that firing them from such a great distance at targets removed from the friendly party by only a few yards with such great accuracy is truly laughable. Also, who sighted and placed those cannons without Blacthorn’s knowledge or guidance.
@manK2022
@manK2022 6 ай бұрын
@@tomswift9542 You are absolutly right. Stupidity. Especcialy if we read a book... Enemies were killed brutaly but from a close distance...
@alesh2275
@alesh2275 6 ай бұрын
You got the dynamics wrong with Toranaga on the beach making a speech. Toranaga was actually afraid that Yabushige could take him prisoner in Ajiro, and deliver him to Ishido. That he was surrounded by a massive Yabushige army chanting "Yabushige!" made him more worried. However, Toranaga being smart and manipulative, gave such a martial speech that the troops changed their chants to "Toranaga!" He also took the occasion to suddenly leave by boat back to Edo, escaping to somewhere where he is safer and nor surrounded by potentially unreliable troops. Very crafty this Toranaga!
@Slycarlo
@Slycarlo 6 ай бұрын
There is where you are wrong. He went back to edo to Raise his Army for the upcoming war. You'll see in the upcoming episodes what in talking a about
@donrog5035
@donrog5035 6 ай бұрын
​@@Slycarlothat doesn't change the fact that he was safer in Edo rather than with Yabushige.
@crispford
@crispford 6 ай бұрын
in my opinion i think he also predicted that ishido will want to sway yabushige so toranaga let his son to stay.. toranagas son would not permit them to see their tactics so he finished ishido messenge... son know no matter what war is here.. why give the enemy an edge..
@skooskipotato3750
@skooskipotato3750 6 ай бұрын
@@donrog5035 safer yes but thats not the reason he left.
@donrog5035
@donrog5035 6 ай бұрын
@@skooskipotato3750 it's one of the reason but not the main reason.
@deshkabhaloo
@deshkabhaloo 6 ай бұрын
I like Yabushige. Guy’s stuck between a rock and a very very hard place. Can’t wait to see how he wades through this mess he never asked for..
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
The thing is, he's causing all of his own problems by not being loyal to one. He's playing the game and if he actually picked a side he would genuinely lose half of his worries
@SiyandaGudla
@SiyandaGudla 6 ай бұрын
I like him too😂
@daisydove3336
@daisydove3336 6 ай бұрын
Im ashamed to admit that in a time of war, i might be yabushige. Like… im Not sure which side i need to choose, i just wanna live and own my towns 😂😂😂
@koredesolola807
@koredesolola807 6 ай бұрын
Exactly what I said to my wife. It is a lose lose situation.
@nont18411
@nont18411 6 ай бұрын
Ramsay Nagakado: “If you think this is a happy ending, you have never been paying attention.”
@madeonearth3429
@madeonearth3429 6 ай бұрын
damn
@cjc4426
@cjc4426 6 ай бұрын
Well obviously. We are going to die and cease to exist and 100 years after our deaths no one will remember us ever again. You just stating the obvious my guy
@spencerhopkinson9874
@spencerhopkinson9874 6 ай бұрын
100 years? We have thousands of years of recorded history, and that's before digital technology. @@cjc4426
@playboimarty
@playboimarty 6 ай бұрын
@@cjc4426shawty he’s talking abt how war has no winners in the context of the show. Ur nihilistic diatribe is also telling the obvious
@ArtemisShanks
@ArtemisShanks 6 ай бұрын
Show of the decade.
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
Bold statement, but seeing as though it's probably going to be a one season wonder, it will have the effect of making everybody want more!
@stivenfern8198
@stivenfern8198 6 ай бұрын
@@BrainPilot Japan is one of the oldest and longest running culture in the world the 1600s- 1800s were straight samurai war periods , I’ll really doubt one season is all they do especially how good it’s been rated
@lucasdesantis2068
@lucasdesantis2068 6 ай бұрын
@@stivenfern8198 It´s based on an old novel, which has a satisfying ending, so it´s impossible (said by the creators of the TV show) to have a second season
@KingRat71
@KingRat71 6 ай бұрын
The version with Chamberlain from the 70’s is better than this.
@murk4552
@murk4552 6 ай бұрын
​@@KingRat71Yeah, I doubt it as shows back then had little historical accuracy.
@partyahmed5966
@partyahmed5966 6 ай бұрын
It was Mariko who visited John at night, since even though her face was covered the hair was still the same as Mariko's and I think she just omitted that detail because she is not his consort.
@YoungTransports
@YoungTransports 6 ай бұрын
Was it her or not?
@partyahmed5966
@partyahmed5966 6 ай бұрын
@@YoungTransports it was
@partyahmed5966
@partyahmed5966 6 ай бұрын
@@stevebubbie1126 interesting, I thought the silhouette looked like her along with the hair style matching. Could they possibly have diverged from the original source material? As the earlier scene has her falling for him after his comparison.
@FireElFreak
@FireElFreak 6 ай бұрын
@@partyahmed5966 It is Mariko she just did not fully disclose that the next morning in public its already been confirmed its Mariko.
@partyahmed5966
@partyahmed5966 6 ай бұрын
@@FireElFreak As I thought, although “she did not fully disclose it” is a bit of an understatement since she tried to hide that it was her by saying it was a courtesan her and Fuji hired, banking on the fact that John can’t speak Japanese to confirm with Fuji.
@lightningandcloud
@lightningandcloud 6 ай бұрын
Ngl the cannons brutal af wasnt expecting to see dudes explode so soon
@ramasyaks6077
@ramasyaks6077 6 ай бұрын
yeaa for real😂 i only see people get thrown in movies by cannons but this time different 👀💥 everything cut off
@johnnielurker
@johnnielurker 6 ай бұрын
bro just watched it and damn what a masterpiece(s) 😂
@TrollNinja69
@TrollNinja69 6 ай бұрын
The writing blew my mind some scenes are epicly poetic
@cakebob6646
@cakebob6646 6 ай бұрын
I was so proud of his son I rewatched it so many times 😂 he had that demon look in his eyes great acting from him in that scene
@SoldierSpiderx
@SoldierSpiderx 6 ай бұрын
lol but this going backfire on him for sure
@raizen5389
@raizen5389 6 ай бұрын
​@@SoldierSpiderx definitely, he didn't listen to his father damn fool
@SoldierSpiderx
@SoldierSpiderx 6 ай бұрын
@@raizen5389agreed he going get himself killed for sure
@awesomearsam1890
@awesomearsam1890 6 ай бұрын
​@@raizen5389he's a dumb brat indeed Young and inexperienced
@sexydirrtymoney
@sexydirrtymoney 6 ай бұрын
I like the weekly release...but god I wish I could binge it in one go! So GOOD!
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
I know what you mean!
@totiarriola
@totiarriola 6 ай бұрын
Me too hell even if they release all of it id binge it over and over again and every time i get bored id watch it all over again
@ghostsdragon9222
@ghostsdragon9222 6 ай бұрын
I wish that to. That is why i probally gonna watch this show again and again after its done airing because man this kind of a show is rare these days
@justinhunstad1760
@justinhunstad1760 6 ай бұрын
It's so difficult not to watch it at home while waiting for my wife to get home to watch it together.
@jaden-cc5vp
@jaden-cc5vp 6 ай бұрын
ITS SO GOOD But I think of this like watching weekly anime
@leocmen
@leocmen 6 ай бұрын
That is a masterpiece... what a good show!! Tadanobu Asano is killing in this show... His expressions by the end of this episode are priceless!
@BrainPilot
@BrainPilot 6 ай бұрын
It truly is! Smashing it every week
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