Brand New vs Year Old! [Side by Side Scuf Envision Pro Review 2024]

[@macandjacks241]

I just bought mine from best buy with the 2 year extended warranty so if there's ever a problem I can get a new one. I love it so far! Thanks for the video

[@pizzaxavi]

That’s the smartest option for this control. I still use mine daily and love it. Hope yours treats you well!

[@wattz6268]

Just bought one I’ve seen a lot of reviews and thank you for the in depth 1 yr vs. new one Tbh… I’m pretty hopeful and I look forward to using it

[@pizzaxavi]

Heck yeah man, glad the reviews were helpful for you. Overall I still love the controller and use it everyday. No new issues arose with it after the video either. Hope yours treats you well too! Thanks for the comment.

[@antoniobrown717]

is it fire

[@HenryDittmarLive538]

I bought a brand new scuff envision and used it for about four hours and the stick started having noticeable drift endgame. Definitely recommend the dual sense edge though

[@pizzaxavi]

Yeah man sadly that’s the case for a good amount of people too which is what led me to make this video and find out for myself. My brother has a DSE and he loves it, might have to borrow it and see how it compares!

[@HenryDittmarLive538]

@@pizzaxavi I’m glad you made this video. Scuff needs to be held accountable for awful QC. Most definitely try the Dual Sense Edge.

[@q3triad910]

Hey man just fyi you can calibrate the sticks too. It def helps

[@pizzaxavi]

Yeah man calibrating the sticks is the only way I’m still able to get by with using it. Definitely glad that’s a feature; I just wanted to be sure to show the results without any deadzone assistance since most people are focused on what that looks like. Thanks for the comment man.

[@ur_pore]

How do you calibrate?

[@elijnr]

You can replace your Scuf envision thumbsticks with Hall effect. There’s a controller company called Budd controllers in AUSTRALIA. He’s very good.

[@pizzaxavi]

Oh snap man imma look that up and see what’s good with em. Could be a fun little tinkering project.

[@whipsor]

have you done this replacment? i found their website but it's pretty bare bones and doesn't have any way to contact them. there also isn't a guide on how to replace them on the site.

[@pizzaxavi]

@@whipsor nah I haven’t tried it but I was checking the site out too, pretty new looking site but seems legit.

[@001.ucypher]

Just ordered one and it's coming tomorrow and ngl I'm glad I got it from Best Buy in case of things like your sticks being off right from the box

[@pizzaxavi]

Yeah man that was my initial idea with trying the controller out. I heard mixed reviews and wanted to try it out for myself. Best Buy is the way for this one man. They gave me 14 days no questions asked and box could be opened and still get your full return. So don’t stress yourself out man. Hopefully you got a good one like I did the first time. Let me know how it goes for you man. Wish you the best cause honestly the control is awesome when it’s not defective out the gate.

[@richmotz304]

Still kills me they charge so much and it doesn't have Hall effect joysticks. Crazy man. My Instinct Pro flat out died (outta warranty) and I found your vids on this controller. Appreciate the follow up vid. Back on the hunt and stuck with a regular xbox controller for now.

[@pizzaxavi]

Honestly I’m right there with you man; my last controller was a second hand Xbox Elite Series 2 and that has been my favorite controller to date as far as functionality and comfort in the hands. When the bumpers on that started to go I was between getting another new Elite Series 2 and the Envision Pro and just opted for a new platform. Seemed like a really nice idea at the time (not that I hate the controller now cause I don’t I actually really like it) I just wish it didn’t fall apart or come with so many inconsistencies.

[@richmotz304]

​@@pizzaxavi How was it adjusting to more of a PlayStation layout with the joystick moved? I haven't used a PlayStation controller since around '98.

[@TwitchKaiThrows]

Yea my mouse click triggers broke after 4 months of using the controller and I was fairly careful while using it it’s my bad for loosing the receipt though

[@pizzaxavi]

Sheesh man! I think you could still get a manufacturer warranty if you claim it through scuf using your serial number? I’m not to sure though.

[@ASYXX_07]

just bought a scuf and now being scared because he has some problems straight outta box, so i will get too with ma luck

[@pizzaxavi]

Hopefully nothing terrible happens and you could adjust the minor flaws with the software. Mine is still very usable even with a few little bugs.

[@tititwister]

i just got mine today but im rly afraid of stick drift..

[@pizzaxavi]

Don’t be scurred; it might have a little but trust me the software does great at tweaking it to be as accurate as possible….even though that’s still wack.

[@gabrielhoyle7634]

Can you please tell me how to calibrate the thumbsticks. Because I swear I have a new one that was sent to me threw my warranty and it says liner but I swear it is totally different because I can force update or reset it and it feels responsive for a game or so then it goes to feeling weird again

[@gabrielhoyle7634]

Also my Xbox series elite 2 feels more responsive and I know for sure that shouldn’t be the case

[@pizzaxavi]

Hey man so my idea for making the controller as consistent from game to game would be to make sure your deadzones (triggers/thumbsticks) for the IN GAME SETTINGS are reduced as much as possible across the board. (Halo/Apex/CoD/Helldivers whatever game it is) I lower them in game settings all the way down. Once they are all lowered that’s when I make a profile in iCue for each individual game. I then do all my deadzone tweaks in the iCue software to eliminate any problems from game to game. That’s the best way I was able to calibrate deadzones and keep them consistent.

[@gabetheriot]

Flydigi Vader 4 pro is the best controller on the market

[@pizzaxavi]

Yo imma look into that one, loving the controller community with the shoutouts. Thanks for the comment man!

[@ThomazMartinez]

Adjusting deadzones on PC does it still work in i use this controller on PS5?

[@pizzaxavi]

Actually you can’t, slight bummer with the Envision Pro since it is only a PC controller. Doesn’t get recognized on any other platform as of now.

[@del6225]

🎉

[@pizzaxavi]

🫡

[@Chrisw-gw3mo]

ayo fire video bro, can you overclock the envision?

[@pizzaxavi]

Thanks homie; appreciate the comment. Tbh I seen a couple people over clock the envision but never tried it myself. I honestly never explored doing so for a controller. There is one dude on YT named TakeNotez who has a video on it and it seemed pretty easy.

[@cardellevans2710]

I have one I love it now

[@pizzaxavi]

Me too man, it’s treated me well overall. Definitely some improvements to be mad but overall I don’t regret buying this at all. If you’re into streaming it’s awesome to have the G Keys for things like scene transitions and clippings

[@CptAloevera]

my triggers losen overtiem is that normal or should i contact support

[@pizzaxavi]

Hmmmmm I’m not sure but if your hair triggers aren’t instant I would consider it. I know when I press my triggers down I hit a definite wall cause the trigger stops but if your trigger stops feel mushy or “loose” I would see what they could do for you.

[@CptAloevera]

@@pizzaxavi I now contacted support and wait for what they say abt it, I still have my warranty so a repair shouldnt be too big of a problem

[@pizzaxavi]

Awesome to hear they got it started for you, hope it’s a smooth process and you get your control back asap! Lmk how it turns out for you.

[@CptAloevera]

@@pizzaxavi its repaired and getting shipped back in a few days

[@pizzaxavi]

@@CptAloevera let’s go! Glad to hear the update!

[@nostromope9579]

Which kontrol freeks are compatible with envision pro?

[@pizzaxavi]

I believe the Xbox’s one are, someone mentioned that to me on another video of mine. I’m currently using the Scuf Tactic grips on mine though.

[@TehHauto]

Im using ps5 and fits right

[@johnfitzgerald7205]

🐐

[@pizzaxavi]

🐐 🐐 🐐

[@BladesDark]

Is this software provided by scuff? If so I'm glad they're at least transparent about the performance of their controller so you can make a decision on how to move forward.

[@pizzaxavi]

Yes! The iCue software is actually provided and required to use the controllers full functionality. It is nice that you can tweak the controller down the road after normal wear and tear like my case. (Some people may see that as a cop out for cheap parts but nonetheless it’s nice that the option to tweak it is there) The hardware tester is a website though to see more detailed inputs. The link is in the description. Thanks for the comment.

[@dustindavidson9139]

I have one of these. Bought one the week they released. Bottom buttons cracked, have stick drift, jitter on my triggers. Will never buy another scuf product ever again.

[@pizzaxavi]

Sadly that’s the case for a large portion of the community that got their hands on these controllers. This was my first Scuf product but based on how long it continues to hold on for and if they decide to make some hardware changes in the future will determine if I buy another Scuf product. Definitely been looking into other brands that offer paddles. Any suggestions on what you prefer?

[@dustindavidson9139]

@@pizzaxavi this was my first (and last) scuf product too. Lol Heard the vader 4 pro is a good value. But, it doesn't have those extra bumpers, which makes the scuf very good for slide canceling cod crack heads like me. Lol I agree hopefully they make improvements to the reliability in the future wayyy to pricey to have terrible QC.

[@pizzaxavi]

@@dustindavidson9139 yeah I feel you on the crackhead slide cancels. I don’t mind claw grip but man the elite series 2 spoiled me with paddles. I wanna do more research on the market and if I get another one best believe I’ll let you know my thoughts.

[@luismedrano-xo4nm]

@@dustindavidson9139it has 4 back buttons

[@BaRCoDeMaJic]

Can you setup a macro on the controller just using the controller and not keyboard?

[@pizzaxavi]

Nahhh actually you can’t; it’s not like some other controllers on the market where you can like hold down a “pairing” button and set “Paddle 1” to “Left D-Pad” or something like that. You can set other profiles though and swap between those with a button on the front of the controller. Only way to program buttons/paddles/sax buttons are with the iCue software.

[@pizzaxavi]

This just is a quick example of how to set things up in the software. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ3VYo2hiN9gfMUsi=ewOg-bF33N4bvCU7

[@BaRCoDeMaJic]

@@pizzaxavi So i cant setup a macro like this? "Hold R2, press up-dpad, release R2"?

[@BaRCoDeMaJic]

@@pizzaxavi My overall question is, can you setup a macro using the controller buttons. Chat gtp says you can.

[@pizzaxavi]

@@BaRCoDeMaJic You definitely could set macros to all the face buttons as well as paddles and saxs buttons but you can’t physically program them without using iCue on your computer. Just open the software click on whatever button you wanna set a macro to and type in the macro string into a text box and your good to go. I show macros specifically in another video actually for helldivers. I’ll link it below!

[@muS5s]

hi bro how u made it display as xbox 360 in controller tester ?

[@pizzaxavi]

Honestly that’s what it popped up as when I plugged it in with the type-c cable connector. It’s a PC only controller but it’s recognized as a XBOX controller since it has the ABXY button platform. Wish I could give a better answer but it came up as that default.

[@muS5s]

@@pizzaxavibut in 9:40 i see it’s connected via wireless so how you made those analog circles in test appear…?

[@pizzaxavi]

@@muS5s oh my bad you right; I connected one via cable and the second one via the provided WiFi usb dongle Scuf supplies in the box! Again it just recognizes it as Xbox automatically.

[@PhlaneurAlbuerme]

grayin from all that mf’n playin!

[@pizzaxavi]

All that greying ain’t playing, imma sand it down and give it a custom paint job. Maybe cute pizza slices? Stay tuned 🫡

[@Cbueh]

Scuf said they lowest you can go for DZ %2 then change in game too 0

[@pizzaxavi]

In iCue you can definitely set them to 0% and then in game is typically where I start making tweaks. I like setting iCue as low as possible without any mis inputs and then adjust the game settings from there accordingly.

[@Cbueh]

@@pizzaxavi Ik you can make it 0 but scuf saying put it to 2 for no issue then change in game settings

[@pizzaxavi]

@@Cbueh Ahh gotcha, no doubt. I had it like that before and it’s there now tbh but when I first got the controller I was able to set it to zero with no issues. Now it’s a little off but still usable for sure when it is set to around 2% deadzone

[@MasterAgario]

off topic but bro you gotta let that mustache rip it i'll look better than that thin strip look

[@pizzaxavi]

LMFAO! Bro you got me cracking up. Just picturing you hella distracted by my mustache got me geek’d. So no thin mustache just full stache or none at all? 🤔 I’ll consider it.

[@MasterAgario]

@@pizzaxavi LOOOOL I mean it isn't distracting or anything I just think you got potential to grow a mean lookin mustache hahaha

[@madsoussi9863]

i don't understand why anyone buy any of there pro controllers for 200 dollars and above!! without hall effect! it's the biggest scam EVER! since i got my elite series 2 years ago and i found out that it had drift out of the box i never spent a cent more on these BS CONTROLLERS. SAVE YOUR MONEY!!! always get controller with hall effect!!. It should be the gold standar for controllers!!!

[@onlytixer]

Lol they have magnetic joy sticks they realisticly won't have any stick drift