Brandan and Mary's OBSESSION is SCARY | 90 Day Fiancé: The Other Way

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[@Fatbottomgirl666]

Ok so she didn't say Brandon told her to quit school and dancing she said she 'felt' like she had to not that she had to! She made that choice basically to stalk him 24/7 and probably use it as a manipulation in future fights! She knows exactly what she's doing!

[@frankiedankymemes]

Thaaaank you

[@MJ-bv8jo]

Yes!! Somehow they’re not pushing that side of the story they told us!! Now it’s her, I’m guessing they’re both doing it now?? Idk weird all around

[@mythots]

omg i didn't catch that! ty!!

[@SpicyPlur]

I wouldn't feel like going to school either if some guy is just going to pay to build me a house and take care of my family. 😂

[@sarahfuller5482]

Yeah I interpreted it as her own decision because she’s loco

[@carlya3035]

Parents set the standard for how their kids expect to be treated later on in life. His standard was set very low.

[@JaseekaRawr]

🥲 the accuracy of this, omg. They also teach you that you don't deserve good things, bc you internalize their abuse. I was told I was a bad person daily, so I started to believe it. I'm in my 30s, still trying to undo what my parents have done to my self esteem. I hope Brandan is able to realize his worth, ASAP 🥲🙏🏻❤

[@carlya3035]

@@JaseekaRawr I feel this. I was taught that I was inherently bad by my malignant narcissist dad. I believed I deserved to have bad things happen to me. I’m working through my childhood trauma and at 35 I finally have some clarity.

[@rebeccawest2506]

There's something called fucking common sense. It's crazy

[@blackdirtlover]

​@@rebeccawest2506common sense isn't common these days, so stop saying it😂

[@TarCarNey]

Sadly 😭

[@moemunneymoe]

Imagine if they get married and have a daughter. She would probably be so jealous of her own daughter for "stealing" her husband from her.

[@vianjelos]

Thats what I think. Women like her tend to be monsters towards their own daughters..especially when their daughters hit puberty. They tear down their daughters and make them feel worthless or like they are a problem. Then again with a son she would likely be way too possesive and destroy his dating life.

[@lostheartslostminds]

And now she’s pregnant and they’re married 😂

[@casey4290]

​@@lostheartslostmindsOh gawd that poor child. I hope the baby's a boy for his sake.

[@TiffanyLeanne88]

My mom did this witH me as a kid, wEll pre-teen age years and still. She hated me cuz I was prettier and grew bigger boobs than she. So she said before. And it shows. She used us two kids for state pay monthly. My younger sister suffered from needing do tors and meds

[@TiffanyLeanne88]

Luckily I know right from wrong but my lil sis does not. She has struggled with relationships and her own mental care. I have PTSD but I can control it on my own thank God. I now hate our mom for this.

[@katehack1677]

This is awful. Mary is SO abusive! Insisting on being on face time during new jobs!? Is she there at his interviews? And he paid for her family's house to be rebuilt. He could easily put up some boundaries, not sure what is wrong with him.

[@captainlarrynosleepfishing5350]

We think that he soooo desperate to find a woman that will do anything!

[@joywebster2678]

CPTSD affects boundary building

[@EmEm78]

He's probably just so desperate to feel loved, because he didn't experience unconditional love in his formative years. Abused kids frequently become adults who think that relationships and being loved involve abuse, because that's what has always been their lived experience and what feels familiar and normal. A lot of them will actively seek out dysfunctional relationships, because that's what feels safe and "normal" to them. There's also a perversely addictive aspect of the highs and lows inherent in an abusive relationship that can keep people hooked - That deeply intense relief and dopamine rush when their abuser deigns to give them a crumb of kindness or love bomb them after a bout of heart breaking, crazy making cruelty and abuse that has them feeling so very lost, desolate, broken, and confused about what they did to deserve it, and obsessed with figuring out how they can somehow "fix" whatever it is so they can get another hit of that sweet relief and feeling worthy of love again, even if only for a short time. The lowest of lows, alternated with what feels like the highest of highs to them is a hell of a drug. I've know plenty of adult survivors of child abuse and neglect who hold a deeply ingrained belief that unless their partner is controlling and abusive, they mustn't really love them or feel passionate enough to "fight" for them. They see a calm supportive partner as someone who "doesn't care enough" and isn't "passionate enough" to be obsessed with and highly reactive to their every move. It's absolutely horrendous, but unfortunately it's not at all rare. It's messed up, and I hope this kid somehow finds it in himself to gtfo of the relationship and seek intensive therapy.

[@katehack1677]

@@EmEm78 Sadly, I think you're right. He does show traits of someone that was abused, most likely as a child :( Mary has picked up on this - she'll take him for everything she can get. He is misinterpreting her neediness and jealousy as love.

[@EmEm78]

@@katehack1677 yup, he seems to be! It's like a horrible train wreck to watch.

[@EllieMae_99]

The dentist scene was hilarious to me 🤣🤣 like girl relax but they definitely both have abandonment issues and being on the phone 24/7 is beyond ridiculous

[@whointhewhat]

24/7 on HIS end..

[@EllieMae_99]

@@whointhewhat when he was meeting with his mom and siblings I would’ve been the sibling to snatch the phone and hang up

[@whointhewhat]

@@EllieMae_99 sadly he’ll probably rage out on them..

[@EllieMae_99]

I just wouldn’t let someone who is 1000+ miles away to control my life

[@whointhewhat]

@@EllieMae_99 good, still let’s not play saints.. You probably do something that Brandan for example wouldn’t even think to do

[@wendymwafulirwa5035]

With this level of jealousy, she'd probably unalive him there. She's already separated him from his friends and family

[@sydneyhammock5270]

I had the same thought. Its a matter of time.

[@LuzMartinez-if1dw]

She is a hypocrite, controlling and narcissistic, I don’t believe that Brandon made her quite , she found someone that built her a house and decided why should I work or go to school, all she has to do is start crying

[@SpicyPlur]

She for sure is cheating on him

[@brandoniswhoiam]

I don’t believe that he made her quit either. She probably dropped out herself because she realized that she couldn’t have him around during classes.

[@snooganslestat2030]

​@@brandoniswhoiam& Knew he would finance her life. Absolutely fkn ridiculous.

[@Natalialyf]

He what??? Built her a house? Edit: just got to that part of the video

[@SpongeB00b_is_a_savage]

And lies about the wifi not working, I would love to see how Brandon would react if Mary tells him the truth while he’s in Philippines 😂

[@Kaito028]

She's clearly a manipulator both emotionally and psychologically. I see red flags everywhere and I have a feeling that this is going to be one of the most toxic relationship in TLC's history.

[@captainlarrynosleepfishing5350]

Absolutely 👍🏻. She can disconnect her Wi-Fi and lie to him by saying the powers out but if he does it, she flips the hell out. Also, did you see him panicking when he had no signal on the way to the fishing spot? 😳

[@taylorcarson8893]

I saw someone that they're married now

[@captainlarrynosleepfishing5350]

@@taylorcarson8893 yes his mother had all the wedding pictures on her instagram. Also she is pregnant 🤰 😳

[@adamjaxn3156]

She's cheating on him.

[@adamjaxn3156]

​@@captainlarrynosleepfishing5350 is he sure that's his baby?

[@onyx081]

This couple feels like a future true crimes story waiting to happen. You might be covering them in the future on your other channel.

[@bebewayi3735]

What channel?

[@JunniorStarLight]

​@@bebewayi3735the crimen mystery channel

[@TheSkankxrhapsody]

No kidding, it def has something is going to go horribly wrong vibes all over it.

[@laurenr9659]

The most insane part of all of this to me is that they're just 23 years old. Like, they are BABIES and it's just sad to see people so young going through so much internally that they're normalizing and rationalizing this insane situation they've created.

[@honestbarcafan8259]

23 is not a baby are u dumb

[@24Lorn]

They're not babies, they're adults, it's just that nowadays any age "under 30" for unknown reasons is infantilized regardless of their life context. Yes, they're young, but they _are_ adults. It's an age where sadly there are already irreversible life scars.

[@ellealesyeuxbruns3211]

As a 23 year old myself, we are baby adults, three years being an adult. I do the same because I want love. Hard to be alone because some people lonely, and want someone to listen/care. We all have dated some toxic and since there’s the honeymoon phase it’s all love and butterflies 🦋 Reach out to your friends in a similar situation just simply by hanging out, so they can feel okay/more independent, and therefore see that they REALLY are okay single.

[@honestbarcafan8259]

@@ellealesyeuxbruns3211 how u feel doesn't matter 😂 a 23 year old is an adult.

[@lavenderlovee]

​@@honestbarcafan8259at 23 the brain isn't even fully developed...

[@colecitaa]

Mary is psychotic but I still feel like Brandan's mother does not have a leg to stand on. Your children were abandoned because of your drug use and now suddenly you're off of drugs and you want to run things. No ma'am. Right or wrong it is not your life.

[@stellag4301]

Exactly…she’s definitely too little..too late…🤷

[@myracarol4114]

I get what your saying to a degree, but I've been where she's at. And it's hard. It is a pain that is so hard describe. It's not that she wants to "run" things it's that she lived and has more life experience and she is basically watching a train on a track that she knows is disconnected and knows there is going to be a crash. Any good parent is going to be honest with their child. Because they don't want to see them fail, they don't want to see them crash and burn. And if she has important information she needs to share it. And yeah I can see how it's too little to late, but that doesn't mean she should just stop all together. That's still her child and she still loves him. No matter how bad she's messed up he shouldn't throw her away and vice versa

[@user-mf1kv4lk2m]

No matter her mistakes that's still her kid and she doesn't want to see him in a crazy relationship wasting some of his best years being abused.

[@blobbertmcblob4888]

Exactly what I said on another video about these two. Like if you prioritized drugs over your own children, you don't get to swoop in when they're grown and start judging their decisions. Keep your mouth shut.

[@snooganslestat2030]

How old was he? I thought he was 15 when he went into care.

[@claudettes9697]

Neglect is a special kind of trauma. Attachment is a real issue. My whole heart hurts for these two maniacs and his family.

[@noodleharman]

Neglect is such a strong form of trauma, so sad

[@Vgs183]

She’s old enough to start working on herself. I lose sympathy after a certain point. I have a lot of childhood trauma and once you’re an adult unfortunately it becomes YOUR responsibility no one else’s

[@claudettes9697]

@@Vgs183 Try compassion. And I’m sorry. 🙏🏻

[@claudettes9697]

@@noodleharman Totally. 🥺🫂

[@Vgs183]

@@claudettes9697 compassion doesn’t equal enabling bad behaviour 🤡 also save your “sorry” it’s disingenuous

[@xxvoid4]

It was leaked that Mary is pregnant and they are married now. I felt so disappointed on how immature they both are.

[@AisforApple1346]

That’s sad to hear

[@arkyives]

Omg

[@Jinx4you]

They’re relationship is super scary , to be on video chat 24/7 , the constant issues with abandonment issues, they both need therapy

[@reagan13579]

Mary is "sacrificing" things for Brandan that he isn't asking for so that she can guilt him later about all she gave up. And by setting the rules to make him feel more comfortable (supposedly) it allows her to shift the blame if she is ever caught breaking the rules to how much pressure he puts on her to make him feel safe, secure and happy. My mother did shit like this, it raised two boys that are doormats and delusional, and two girls (me and my little sister) who were desperate to leave at all costs. I dont care if this comes from a place of insecurity or not, you are not allowed to torture someone vulnerable just because you have issues. Luckily we are both in better places now (I bought a house, got married and had a son all while having a career; and my sister moved in with us recently to get away - shes 10 years younger than me).

[@tina6651.]

Mary is definitely a hypocrite! That young lady needs to seek therapy IMMEDIATELY! This is the epitome of an unhealthy relationship.

[@mariahjonesbest239]

This relationship will end badly. It may not happen today, or tomorrow or next year. But it will go up in absolute flames. I just hope no one ends dead or in jail, because it feels like I'm watching the prequel to a true crime documentary. I know the producers don't typically inteverne but i really hope they can facilitate an exit if this goes sour while filming.

[@vaishnavishirsekar6369]

So freaking true🙃

[@pizzamassacre]

Majority of relationships end sooner or later 😂

[@Avmuhammad64]

💯🎯

[@ThePeachGirlDiaries]

I so disagree with you her. Branden’s sister was completely valid to say, “you shouldn’t be so quick to throw us away”. In regards to him choosing Mary and her narcissistic needs over his family.

[@yellowdaises111]

Def

[@girlinterrupted9792]

Exactly. It’s not even like most situations where you can see that the person is struggling to balance their family and significant other. He’s blatantly choosing her over them. If anyone is going to be suffering from abandonment issues it will be his siblings. It’s a sad all around.

[@halloween482]

I came to comments to understand why she thought what his sister said was wrong? His sister was absolutely right.

[@bulletproofair]

He's such an easy mark. She can exploit his issues, get the money, and create a reason for breaking up out of anything when she's finished with him. TLC is basically just assisting relationship scams at this point.

[@captainlarrynosleepfishing5350]

He has nothing BUT she has a new home for her and her family for FREE!

[@zaineysaint2564]

Bingo. He’s an easy mark. Especially for a narcissist

[@notyourbae19]

Tbh it's actually funny and I'm not a narc but even I think he's easy prey

[@ShrodingersHat]

They're allegedly married now and Mary's pregnant..... Such a messed up couple.

[@crosales8184]

​@@ShrodingersHatGod help that child SMH

[@brandoniswhoiam]

Mary is getting her Filipina card taken away… by ME! 😂 She’s absolutely insane.

[@shaavondadavis5329]

There's nothing funny about this.

[@brandoniswhoiam]

@@shaavondadavis5329, the Filipina card is still being taken away.

[@mmyehokayyy2]

Girl is an embarrassment!

[@itsQUINNderful]

I don’t watch anything from TLC anymore (I did as a kid like, 15 years ago with Jon and Kate) but now I realized just how sad it all is. EVERYTHING ON TLC IS TARGETTING MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE AND PROFITING OFF OF IT

[@thandoq]

I agree with you. None of these people could possibly be okay mentally. None of their behaviours are okay or healthy. 😕

[@frankiedankymemes]

Amen! Wild how T L C stands for T he L earning C hannel... I am not learning anything other than TLC loves to exploit and take advantage of vulnerable people.. It's wild. I won't give them the view.. but I'll give Po the view!

[@Leoprincess3038]

Right remember it actually had LEARNING shows on it? Life in the ER, all those doctor shows they had cartoons for kids back in the day and everything....and now

[@SwissMissss]

​@@Leoprincess3038 I used to LOVE the baby story shows, and all the wildlife documentaries etc! Look at what it's become for ratings and money 😢

[@itsQUINNderful]

@@SwissMissss I loved watching A Baby Story too! Totally forgot about that. I’d watch it with my mom.

[@mistyblue2917]

Crazy Mary, Scary Mary 💀

[@elledavis6224]

Lmao "I will become a nun and give myself to Jesus Christ" 🤣🤣

[@kaiyaakakarla]

Maybe jesus christ is what is needed at this stage yes!!!😂

[@callilove8378]

It's honestly a better option for her 😂😂

[@TheKillingJoker1980]

A natural next option for someone chasing that HUGE American ahem heart

[@Mvjesty23]

Every single person on this show needs to see a therapist 😭 some more than others 😭

[@augsssss]

I'm a Filipina and this is embarrassing. This girl knows what she's doing, lmao.

[@catchingamuse3857]

The fact that Brandon will go to the Philippines and "wing it" is the "average yt guy" confidence I have ever seen. Like things will magically work out without any planning. Either that, or he knows someone (family, god parents, etc) will eventually bail him out.

[@TheKillingJoker1980]

BrandAN, NOT Brandon!!

[@lolaispure4296]

Well look at it this way! He got casted into a huge reality tv that paid for his ticket and increase his money making potential. So it " magically" got better for him financially materially at least.

[@andrewevans7992]

Atleast he has the balls to risk it unlike most people like you judging him. Coward

[@Oksurewhynot13]

This is so disturbing. He doesn’t deserve this. Men can be victims of abuse too, and their abusers can be male or female. It is absolutely clear, this is emotional and psychological abuse coming from Mary. She’s a hypocrite and seems to be a narcissist. She’s taking advantage of Brandon’s trauma. I feel so sorry for him. I have two young sons, and if they were older and in this situation, I would do absolutely everything I could to stop either of them from being with a woman, or man, like Mary.

[@rivap.4791]

Being a victim of abuse myself, more than once... he is not a victim. They are both doing it to each other. Both are toxic. One may be more manipulative than the other, but this is not one abusing the other. At most, one is more of an enabler of the other one's insecurities... but they are both codependent. They really should get therapy and/or split up.

[@Seaglassandsage]

@@rivap.4791 as the show progresses I think we will see that she is clearly the abuser. In our society, it is impossible for some people to believe that men can be mentally abused. For some, it absolutely has to be “2 sided”. She is clearly controlling and mentally abusing him, it’s really not even a close call. he is not only being emotionally abused, but also financially manipulated. if the genders were reversed, there’s no way you would leave this comment.

[@rivap.4791]

@@Seaglassandsage Sorry, you can't play the gender card with me lol I am well-aware of how incredibly abusive women can be. It is not that at all. I've known of many abusive women and their traumatized partners and there is a clear pattern of behavior. I have male friends who have been in horribly toxic, abusive relationships with narcissistic women. In this case, they are both toxic. Sure, that comes with emotionally abusive behaviors, but they are both mostly codependent and toxic in mostly equal measures. She behaves much like many women here of similar social/financial status as her(I'm in the Philippines), in that they are very desperate to hold on to foreign partners out of insecurity and as a result, many behave erratically. There is also a component of cultural difference that you aren't privy to, not to say that women here are histrionic, but there is a stereotype of jealousy and dramatics. The type of men who succumb to these behaviors are typically men who may not have received this kind of attention before and don't understand that it's out of desperation among other things... this is coupled with cptsd from both ends and voila - perfect storm of toxic behaviors. But he is most certainly not the victim. He is pathetic. He likes the attention. They even both admit that they find security in each other's insecurity. He is an enabler at most and lacks boundaries. She is immature, manipulative, and possibly even borderline. It's fucked up, but he is most certainly not the victim.

[@Seaglassandsage]

@@rivap.4791 why don’t you settle down in your dissertation and be real for one second here… If it was a man who is forcing a woman to be on the phone 24 hours a day, forcing them to keep their phone on while they watch her take a shit …and then disconnecting their Wi-Fi and going to hang out with women you would’ve never left this comment, please attempt to be honest with yourself. referring to him as “ pathetic” is absolute victim blaming. There are no cultural differences in south east Asia that affirm women are more likely to be jealous and clingy…. so your cultural stereotype is not true. I think because you haven’t had positive men in your life you’re developing a skewed perceptive. He is not pathetic, he is being manipulated, financially exploited, and abused by this toxic woman, who goes behind his back to hang out with men every chance she gets. Take a look at the rest of the comments, do you think you are the one that’s right and everyone else here is wrong? You need to check yourself, if you were coming from the Philippines yourself… Can you understand that you are unreasonably sympathizing with her? As the season progresses and her behavior becomes more toxic and abusive… You can continue in your narrative that her partner is “ pathetic” and he “deserves it”, it will be largely ignored.

[@sarahh2072]

I cried seeing the mom say goodbye as well, you could tell she had just given up and was letting him go make his mistake. She knows she won't be able to talk to him much if at all. It hurts sering someone you love make bad choices. Both of them should not be together, he can't work in the Philippines while being on the phone with her, unless they both work the same job I guess? He's still acting like a child, maybe this will force him to grow up.

[@nerdycurls6253]

Being forced to grow up is why he doesn't see the abusive relationship he's in. He doesn't need a relationship he needs to just rebuild the bond with the family he's been given back. This is so sad I hope he ends up back home, he's still young enough to make something of his life and hopefully his mom puts up a fight to stay in his life despite that leech.

[@selb2442]

That's what he watched his mom to do too. Make bad choices

[@johnl3230]

This whole situation is pathetic. Can you not look back at yourself and see how shitty of a person your being. Blows my mind, this couple needs to split.

[@kuroichan101]

Anyone who would tattoo their partners name on themselves after 2 years ONLY ONLINE is a psycho.

[@fd9891]

Meanwhile I dated my ex for 2 years and he couldn’t say I love you lmao

[@samanthamarquez4358]

It's a way of saying I own you now lmao

[@boot2478]

Video calling 24/7 is INSANE... I could never handle being around one person all the time, even if it was someone I loved. That is so mentally exhausting

[@cinnamonbits26]

This girl is assassinating her wifi to go out at night. We all know this girl isn't going to give herself to Jesus.

[@srichardf]

I doubt that Brandan made her stop dancing which caused her to lose her scholarship. I think she was accusing him of cheating because he went somewhere where there were women (like his mother's house) and he said that she's around other guys all the time at school, and attracts other guys with her dancing but he doesn't go all crazy and so she stopped so he can't call her hypocrite.

[@rivap.4791]

To be honest, coming from someone who is in the Philippines, I see her attitude a lot with local girls/women who aren't... I dunno how else to put this, but... not the best catch. They are insecure, knowing they are replaceable. They managed to hook a foreigner and monitoring him 24/7 is a way to ensure that he can't be snagged by another girl online just like her or someone better than her who is local to him. It's competitive out here for them, y'all. 😂 When they don't have anything much going for them - they're just normal looking, don't have a career, no opportunities, no financial security, etc. a foreign boyfriend is more than a life line. It's like winning the lottery - especially when he isn't 20-30 years older and they truly can feel attraction and love towards a young partner. Life is hard for many... I see this kind of insecurity and jealousy and hyper-vigilance amongst those with older foreign men who they don't even like... it will be even worse for someone they actually do like. lol

[@samhayet4286]

That's fascinating! Thank you so much for this insight! This is not info you typically get on accessible media, etc. If you have any info like this, please feel free to share!

[@sana_saint]

Agree! If you're going to date a Filipino/a local, go for someone university-educated, perhaps working in corporate, whose family preferably has properties/small businesses. If it's someone with Mary's background, the foreigner's bound to get taken advantage of. Brendan's $$$ built her family's house. What does Mary have to offer in this relationship/partnership? And Mary's "dancing" that she quit is just Tiktok dancing? 😶‍🌫️ It doesn't even seem like she's a part of a dancing group. There are lots of hip-hop/modern dance groups in universities if only she didn't stop her schooling.

[@rivap.4791]

@@sana_saint Yeah, this is the advice I give to foreign friends of mine or people I come across online. If you are matching with people from the Philippines, you're less likely to end up with a sex worker/bar girl/financial parasite if you match with someone who is educated and comes from a financially secure family. Of course, some men choose the former on purpose - they know it's an exchange... however, they end up supporting not only the girl but her entire family (extended fam included).

[@Rainbow_fall]

I can't believe this kind of people actually exist is a nightmare.

[@JustKelso1993]

Okay but props to his mom for turning her life around!

[@wumbology6072]

Okay but..does he get to do ANYTHING alone? What about when he sleeps, does he have to record it to prove he’s sleeping? I have a lotta questions. And she ain’t shit for doing the wifi tricks but expecting Him not to? (I’m surprised he hasn’t done the same)

[@lorabell1979]

It showed in one episode he leaves FaceTime or whatever on while he sleeps so she can watch

[@brandoniswhoiam]

@@lorabell1979, and she’s still on the phone while she sleeps too.

[@taylorcarson8893]

They both fall asleep on video she was sleeping when he was fishing with his God parents

[@bmoe4609]

It one thing to want to sleep on vid together its another to force it. Crazy

[@theresagreen6017]

Mary is unhinged... i honestly am scared for Brandon's life. I feel lkke she reminded me of how Courtney clenney (?) Was in the recordings that came out with the boyfriend she murdered. That level of obsessed controlling abuse. Bc he passed another woman he knew and said hi while out buying her subway.

[@TheKillingJoker1980]

*BrandAN!

[@queenebony]

@@TheKillingJoker1980are you BranDan? Lol you keep commenting that like you’re getting paid for it

[@missfrubby7814]

This is sad, how his family can't sit down privately with his family and have a serious conversation... WITHOUT Mary being there!!!

[@ignorealiensorders666]

Nope Mary Is a big TOXIC NOPE very very unstable And Brandon literally bought her a house and she’s lying to him about the Wi-Fi smh no And the whole fact he can’t be around his female family members no. She’s not good

[@nightsky3981]

These two drain the life out of me. I am staying single forever!

[@habeashumor9814]

50-100 years from now, people will marvel at how no one from Sharp Entertainment or TLC got put in prison for making this sort of content exploiting the mentally ill. This is like if two people got badly injured in a car crash, and producers found them and said "Let's not call 911 or get these people any kind of help. Instead, let's just film them as long as possible for spectacle and profit."

[@JacobStein1960]

I am 62 years old, currently single, however I have had a few relationships. If even in the early "honeymoon" stage of a relationship your partner seems a little crazy, please walk away. Don't be mean. Just walk away. Quickly.

[@ajbrunswick9727]

I literally dated someone that did this shit to me. I couldn’t hang with any friends or play online with them,I couldn’t talk to my cousins I couldn’t stay at their house and was constantly accused of cheating…I sat at home like Patrick under his rock. I never did anything to show disloyalty n I ended up getting so fed up being treated that way I had to end it. And I was so happy n felt free when I did

[@sharonharris9782]

Why would you let anyone ever treat you like that and go along with it for ANY amount of time? Why?

[@ajbrunswick9727]

@@sharonharris9782 Sharon I was in high school, I was young and dumb, I learned my lesson real quick from that one

[@pumpkin0096]

Listen I have the same trauma as her. If you are that insecure, stay single. This relationship is very unhealthy.

[@kaylynvandermerwe]

the way the dentist turned hearing Mary crying like 👀👀

[@thornhex]

Brandon is going to regret abusing and abandoning his family when Mary screws him over he will be alone and his siblings won't be there cuz he hasn't made a bond with him they will just see him as some stranger they used to know and not give him a second thought all because the girl he thinks he loves told him to do so. She is very abusive and I hope he realizes that soon and grows up fast!

[@oliviadash3104]

Yikes it’s not worth losing a job! If my boyfriend did that I’ll actually get snappy and said, “excuse me? I’m working! Call me after dinner. Goodbye.” No phonecall from your boyfriend that has to do with jealousy with the same gender is not worth it

[@kumarules118]

Well... she's mentally ill and Brandon is no better mentally either

[@bwitchy]

They both have so much healing to do and this relationship is not the answer 😢

[@mistyblue2917]

6:32 are these ppl not aware of how television works? Lol. She does know that Brandan is gonna see all this later, right

[@rjt318]

THIS MOTHER CANNOT SAY SHE CANT STAND TO WATCH HER SON RUIN HIS LIFE, YOU CAUSED THIS LADY

[@lmoore1566]

Yea..but at a certain point he needs to take control of his choices. He could have chosen therapy not 24/7 video chat.

[@AisforApple1346]

She 100% played a LARGE part in his abandonment issue and attachment style he has.

[@ttjc3696]

Mary flipping out over the seating was the rotting cherry on the shit Sunday that is their relationship for me. Like girl do you think when you get a ticket for a flight they show you who is sitting where and he was like "Oh snap pretty bitches in seats A1 and A3 let me take that A2 seat so I can cheat on my Bae!" 🤨

[@bettaaesthetics7791]

Alienating yourself from your friends and family because of a girl is dangerous type of abuse. She is an abuser, she and him both need therapy. She talks alot about her faith and I would hope she would really sit down and study it because what she is doing is not seen right at all in her own "beliefs". I hope they can get trauma therapy and couples therapy. Her behavior is very scary, it's more like infatuation than love.

[@riothadon3153]

Mary sounds like she has Borderline Personality Disorder. I can relate to some of those behaviors a few years back

[@abby.b7514]

I was thinking the same exact thing

[@kamikazecassidy]

Brandan is in Oregon. He has access to FREE mental healthcare on so many levels. There are so many options. It’s hard to feel bad for him even though it’s sad AF.

[@samhayet4286]

There's free mental healthcare in Oregon?! How did that come to be?! This is interesting! Appreciate any other info you can give!

[@lunav9827]

Wow she spazzed out that hard over the girl on the airplane . Wtf you literally can’t pick the person you sit next to. That’s controlling abusive & she’s just psycho . Going to Philliphines & dealing with that seems so exhausting

[@SentientPeanutButter]

being a child of an addict myself I really don’t feel like his mom is in any position to be telling him what he can and can’t do considering she was not around for like 10 years :// y’all can come after me but ik what it’s like. also doesn’t mean I’m advocating for that relationship, Mary is extremely unstable.

[@intrepidtomato]

true! she got it together now but she has no leg to stand on

[@Opaldragon3224]

It’s not too weird to give clothes that you’ve been wearing long as I’m not sweaty and gross. Will just have the mild scent of the person experiment mix with the clothes in the perfumes I knew a friend that had a long-distance girlfriend they were dating for two years and one had to move so the other friend would wear a bunch of clothes throughout the week. Make sure they didn’t smell too awful and then put them in a box and ship them to her girlfriend, sometimes I leave clothes at my boyfriends house and he smells them and it fills in with joy. I don’t think it’s too weird. Sent is a very important key sense.

[@call2872]

They are both young and probably inexperienced in life. Lots of growing up to do. Being on the phone 24/7 is just insane.

[@whointhewhat]

It’s still on him that he chooses a woman like her, let’s not forget that

[@dollymae3383]

He's stupid. Lots of us have trauma or drug addicts for parents. That's no reason to disregard common sense. And you can't blame his age because even his little brother thinks he's dumb.

[@mercymaddox]

MARY TERRIFIES ME. Those texts at the end!?

[@meowmeowmeowbarf]

Girl SAME I wasn’t going to watch this season but I heard about these two and had to watch. It quickly became so sad. Love your videos ❤

[@LilPotatoz]

Your tears are so human, empathic and kind! I agree with you - I think they both need to stay connected to feel safer, but she needs it way more than Brandon.

[@almasantiago1100]

This relationship is scary AF! Mary is batshit crazy 😳

[@jurikobaby]

The fact that she unplugs the internet and then lies to him about it so she can go hang out with guys... she is cheating. Also her manipulating that shes been cheated on so she has to stalk him 24/7 is not fair. Get over your past before starting a new relationship. She is trouble. Poor brandon has his head in the sand.

[@olufagosebambulagose]

Yeah screw those people. This isn't even jealousy problems, this is straight up psychotic paranoia. She should not be with anyone ever until she sorts that out, probably years and years of therapy. He should not be with her because he is enabling this psychotic behaviour. She will 100% turn his life into hell, he needs to just get smarter - nothing is worth all of this.

[@pollyannaprinciple5860]

They are married and living happily ever after according to spoilers.

[@angiechristinefitness]

🤫 and a baby on the way 😬

[@captainlarrynosleepfishing5350]

@@angiechristinefitnesso dear god no

[@michellekay223]

You're right! They need therapy SEPARATELY. How are they going to have income if he loses jobs bc of her having to witness him living? I may be wrong, but he has NEVER said anything that remotely sounds jealous, it's all her saying he does. I've been abused, that's what abusers do so they don't come off as the problem. I predict he will see it's just as bad, if not worse, when he is physically in the room with her. She's BAD. I've heard of abused women that had the 24/7 surveillance, but never a female doing it to a male. TLC should be ASHAMED not intervening and letting this happen! For what?! Money and views? This is as bad as watching Angela abuse Michael and I was so disgusted I stopped watching. Wasn't SHE always accusing him, yet doing things openly that she would have a meltdown if he did? I see such similarities! Pleeeeease someone save him!!!! Toxic is one thing seeing them figure it out (like Gino), but blatant abuse and filming it? That's beyond sick!! These 2 are too young, immature and inexperienced to give them fame for this behavior or accepting it for the cameras.

[@arizonacountrygirl]

That chick is crazy. Point blank period. Also, I do think watching corn can be addictive and can lean more towards being unfaithful. It doesn't make the other person feel good, it's other naked people who arouse your partner, they're fantasizing about those people and not you. It's borderline cheating.

[@mushmouth_thenomad]

I don’t think watching Corn is cheating. And I could careless but also Corn is a rabbit hole of lack of intimacy that’s borderline an addiction. It’s actually not healthy and if your partner needs it, there’s something deeper there that needs to be addressed.

[@danhumphrey8357]

I agree, and though it’s not cheating, I don’t think watching it benefits a relationship in any way.

[@Urmom_oclock69]

I think the only time it’s some what ok to fantasize about another person if it’s so absurd that it’ll never happen. Like movies/tv/anime/book characters, celebrities, or a random hot person on the bus, because it will most likely never happen. But if it’s someone who could be potential i.e. a friend, roommate, someone you know personally, then fantasizing about them is a red flag and a no go. That’s telling me that you’d rather be with them instead of me. And thinking about them while we’re doing it is such a red flag if get the fuck outta there as soon as possible.

[@csong9940]

That girl is full on CRAZY. He needs to run.

[@tiffanykim2773]

Nah this is toxicity at it's finest. There is no excuse for any of this type of behavior like we're entering into potential psycho killer territory 😩. Couldn't be me bruh 😔🤦🏾‍♀️.

[@raavenhairston2061]

My exes little brother is also on the phone with his long distance gf 24/7. It’s so weird and I used to hate it

[@captainlarrynosleepfishing5350]

You have to stop him or he will become Brandon

[@lexireid7577]

She is insane! Sounds like an awaiting episode of fatal attraction if he doesn’t RUN!

[@christinamitchell]

I absolutely love your videos! I really enjoy the commentary. Keep up the great work!

[@421541Michee]

I personally feel that cheating in a relationship is whatever the parameters in the relationship you set up. So, for example, a lot of people have basic, physical, and emotional boundaries. I think pretty much anyone would be on board if they're in a monogamous committed relationship. However, I also think there are boundaries that shouldn't be crossed if you would feel slighted if it happened to you. So in the Jasmine and Gino case, you know she would lose her mind if she found out that Gino was doing that. Same if he was meeting with his ex. So if it's something that you would feel betrayed and hurt by your partner doing, then even if your partner doesn't care, you shouldn't be doing it. I am really good friends with an ex of mine but when something goes wrong in my new relationship, I don't go and vent to him about it. I know that I would probably feel some type a way if I found out that my current partner was running to their ex and telling them details about our relationship.

[@reneea9119]

Some of these storylines are so "No effin way" because they honestly can't be like that in real life. All the headslaps while watching the show can give you a concussion. 🤯🙆‍♀️

[@djpower8791]

I’m not a mom either (childfree by choice, 43F) and I put myself in his mom’s place too. I can’t imagine how shitty she must feel, she already acknowledged she lost 10 years to addiction but having just reconnected with Brandan and seeing him go through this…I can’t imagine the layers of guilt and lost life she’s probably feeling watching him leave to be with her. I will never be in that position, so I could be completely wrong but I feel like she might be devastated feeling like her recovery was “too little too late.” I know that’s not the case, but having struggled with mental illness I feel like that so often.

[@honiej00n75]

The mother created the situation. He clearly has codependency issues as well. He needs to be accountable as well. Any adult would prioritize but he grew up in serious dysfunction.

[@Strawberriesjam_myglock]

Mary shouldn’t be crying because it’s the truth. Is this even a relationship if you have to constantly monitor who your partner is around 24/7? Brandon hasn’t cheated on her so why is she so adamant on controlling who he’s around? Get couples counseling or therapy. He sends her money so she might as well seek help. There are online options. Don’t trauma dump on someone just because they’re your partner.

[@Khaliyah_Muhammad]

Girl nobody is trying to holler at that man but you 🙄

[@Jimmyboygohome]

I think it’s extremely hypocritical for the mother to say she’ll be “damned if I watch my son ruin his life over this obsession…” when SHE ruined his life with her own selfish obsession with DRUGS.

[@MillerTheOriginal]

"I will become a nun and give myself to jesus" 😭😂😂😂😂😂 that got me

[@JuniperJupiter23]

It's not B.O., it's pheromones. They're a thing. Especially for long-distance relationships. When my bf lived in LA, I would wear his shirts when we weren't together. They weren't like disgusting or anything. They just smelled like "him" - his pheromones.

[@mythots]

that's fine, i get missing your partner's smell. but sweaty bo is a big no.. atleast for me

[@briannarobinson5159]

I mean, I get what you're saying, but do they have to dirty clothes? Because sweat stinks the same way no matter the person. Can you get the same effect with clean clothes or a slightly used one? I'm not trying to be rude or anything but coming from someone who sweats alot, I wouldn't want my partner to do.

[@phillower8806]

There is no evidence that pheromones exist in humans

[@joywebster2678]

Oh I had a bf long ago that insisted he wanted worn clothes from me. Hexwas so disappointed when the sweaty clothes arrive 2 weeks later via mail. Sour sweat, just like sticking your head in a dirty clothes hamper. Different to share a clean shirt with your fresh body scent after a shower with your cologne, etc, on it. But add sweat, eww the bacteria will stink after a bit.

[@Windwalker88]

Absolute insanity. A relationship should be build upon trust, not jealousy

[@BleuReign13]

Lusting after someone else is considered cheating.. and it starts In your mind. Watching corn has broken up a lot of relationships because it's so addictive.

[@ChocoCarmelApple]

These two are so bad for each other. This is a train wreck 😅

[@judyr.7249]

JJ has all the sense. Sister has all the sense. Mom has had enough and Brandon will find out in the end after loads of money and heartache that this relationship isn’t it…. Smh 🤦‍♀️ wish we could speed forward to him having an epiphany

[@jhopecreationz]

I think delving into the p*rn universe for self pleasure is totally okay and normal, where it becomes a problem is when you start to feel desensitized while being intimate with your partner and it starts to feel like it’s never enough to get you off.

[@spf_500]

These two need adult supervision at all times. Two lost little children mimicking what they think true love is.

[@katies1652]

the nun comment had me DEADDDD, when my ex and i broke up i had a phase (slightly as a joke?) where i was like “i could just become a nun!!” so seeing someone else go through that thought process is HILARIOUS to me😭

[@wtf_is_this__]

Mary resents him and he resents Mary. They need to get that out in the open and break the hell up. This is incredibly unhealthy.

[@ellerinaldi8073]

hi filipino here! about marys brother (romar) and his girlfriend appearing to be young and having a child, the philippines has one of the highest teenage pregnancy rates in southeast asia. i myself know a couple of people who had children at young ages so while it is sometimes surprising, it isnt totally unexpected.

[@samhayet4286]

Thank you for this insight!

[@julietteoscaralphanovember2223]

Thank you for covering this couple!! I'm floored at how weird and strange they are!! The insecurities are above and beyond!! Others have been through the same and aren't like them. This couple absolutely CANNOT last!!! The shirt thing is disgusting, its what you do when you leave your puppy home alone, not people!!! This couple is way worse than Jasmine! BTW, I'm raising grandchildren who their parents basically just don't want and I pray they won't be insecure like Mary or Brendan are. Mary is more nuts, imo. She's a liar and everything she does she puts on Brendan. I've never seen such a wacko couple. Mary didn't have to drop school or dancing. If you listen shes says "I FELT that I had to give them up or I'd lose Brendan". It sounds as if SHE'S the one who put it on Brendan, once again!! I think his sister had every right to say what she did to Brendan. Mary is psycho, imo!! His godparents are feeding into the bs, instead of telling him straight out that it's not a healthy relationship. I haven't heard Brendan say anything crazy like Mary has said. I don't think he's as jealous as Mary.

[@victoriaalexandra1958]

They seem like they would have an unalive pack 😧

[@lavenderlovee]

This isn't gonna last. I've been around too many people who had this type of relationships and none of them lasted. This is insane and once you snap out of that honeymoon emotions, it will all start to fall apart.

[@RK-dc2es]

I dunno dude I've seen plenty of longterm toxic nightmare relationships/marriages. A lot of the time they'll be constantly on-and-off for yeeeears, but you also see marriages that have lasted 25 consecutive years between two emotionally immature, manipulative, vindictive, insecure people and you're like "HOW IS THIS THING STILL GOING STRONG, DON'T YOU TWO WANNA OFF YOURSELF RATHER THAN DEAL WITH THIS EVEN ONE MORE DAY??", yet they just keep on trucking.

[@fahsky]

Living in Hawaii, I've learned Philippines are incredibly youthful appearing, & quite pretty imo, until they're at least 80. By then they've mastered make up & dressing well, so they will remain looking young 😂

[@smhatheworldwelivein]

She's constantly crying when she gets called out on her BS

[@w1tchmom]

This relationship is pathological, I don't care what difficulties they had in childhood. A lot of children have horrible childhoods, but this..this is SICK!! From a professional standpoint there is something mentally wrong with both of them!! She's way worse than he is. My ex-husband cheated on Mr with one of our mutual friend & it became a whole HUGE scandal..I didn't lose my mind.. Also. Who pays their damn cell phone bills? 24/7 on the phone? 😮 Girl..even Jesus thinks you're a nut! Love your true crime channel!!

[@jaxong.2701]

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[@10shi89]

They probably use a 3rd party app like Signal, WhatsApp, etc where you don't have to pay to talk to others.