Brandon Sanderson talks Tolkien, Fantasy, & Potential Cosmere Adaptations!

[@thecomb3z786]

Sanderson is a true nerd in all the right ways which really came across in this interview. This is a great crossover, appreciate the content and hope to get more in the future.

[@HumbleGnome]

Interview? I feel like that was more like a masterclass monologue 😂

[@dominus1444]

Well this is very cool and utterly unexpected.

[@combustable6522]

Love how Brando Sando is showing up on all of my youtube fantasy channels across all franchises

[@Boogalyhu]

His media literacy is a me of his best talents as far as the business of writing goes. He’s pretty much the greatest fantasy influencer alive.

[@dragonsandwarts5644]

What are some other fantasy he is showing up on? So I can go check them out, I love hearing him talk shop about fantasy.

[@ElijahDawkins-yb1uc]

Same. Just seeing the number of random people I know about that were at Dragonsteel Nexus is astonishing.

[@TheHiggybaby]

It's been great seeing your quick descent into Sanderfanaticism. Makes me so proud!

[@TheBabyCaleb]

Brandon Sanderson is my favorite author! I’ve read nearly all his Cosmere books, just finishing up Stormlight and then the secret projects. Great interview

[@JojenPaste]

I literally just heard the name Brandon Sanderson for the very first time 2 days ago. Started reading one of his books and this video drops. 🤯 crazy! And this interview is awesome. Now I’m really excited to read his stuff just because of his passion for the genre and Tolkien.

[@Healthy_Toki]

You're in for a good time!

[@boppy9617]

what did you start with?

[@flyyoufools12]

Strap in!

[@TheBabyCaleb]

Get ready to read everything! Once you start, there’s no going back 😅

[@isakjohnsen1982]

I also just started! I started with the way of kings, but now I took a break and am reading Mistborn!

[@coolbrotherf127]

A proper Mistborn adaption would be so sick. Getting to see the city and action scenes as described in the books would be a treat.

[@TheJordanK]

Brandon thanking him for being on his own channel is a power move. 😂 23:15

[@davidlawrence5739]

This instantly turned my day into a good day. Please do this again!

[@Thummpur26]

What a beautiful collab! Listening to way of kings right now but paused it to listen to this!

[@HolyG.23]

Never read his books or seen him before but wow this guy is awesome! Great Interview Matt

[@TheBabyCaleb]

He’s a very cool guy, makes reading his books all the better

[@Gothmaugh]

Very cool interview!!!! Would love more of this!

[@SirWhig-esq.]

R.I.P - David Weatherley [Barliman Butterbur]

[@AstroPC96]

Yoooooooo! This was unexpected but welcome!

[@jadenchen8921]

My favorite fantasy worlds collide… thanks for doing this!

[@hobbit603]

I'm still standing by my Nerdonalsium channel suggestion 😅. I love seeing two of my favorites (author/creator) coming together like this. It's the cross-over episode I never knew I needed.

[@samuelleask1132]

I’ve been eagerly anticipating this since you announced it! This was an absolute BLAST to watch, wish it could have been hours longer! Also I absolutely love that you made sure to add 16:17 in and fact check 😂

[@angelahaughton9167]

I love this channel and I love Sanderson. Brilliant collaboration.

[@Corvus-Moon]

Brandon looks like he enjoys the fantasy world he lives in, which is rare.

[@raghavkavimandan8122]

Matt we need a seperate channel for Sanderson content as well !!

[@kristofr6862]

At 8:20, did he just hint that Guy Gavriel Kay might had done some of the writing for Silmarillion? Like, actually coming up with some material on the book? Or what did Brandon Sanderson do for the Wheel of Time?

[@prokek9776]

I'm pretty sure GGK worked together with Christopher (the son) on building the Silmarillion from the mass of unorganized manuscripts. As far as I know he didn't write anything himself Edit: but since he's (as brandon also said) very secretive about it, it could be possible that he wrote some things in there

[@Panamaniac3D]

To give context on what Brandon did for the Wheel of Time, Robert Jordan (the original author) passed away right before writing the last book. Brandon took his notes (which were actually only a few paragraphs) and finished the series out.

[@tomtaylor5623]

just reading one of his books and the silmarillion should give you the answer to that. an absolutely enormous gulf in writing quality and iq level.

[@daneelolivaw1976]

I love Sanderson's books and on top of that he is very interesting in his talks/interviews. Thanks!

[@offroadoverlords]

oh wow, right here in town!

[@kazoohero93]

Loved it. More cosmere content please!

[@logansfury]

I am always pleasantly surprised to hear how many other people first read The Hobbit at age 9 as I did. Sharing this distinction with Brandon Sanderson is rather cool! I just finished this year's re-read of the 14 books of Wheel of Time plus New Spring prequel not even a week ago. I am just starting another re-read of Sword of Shannara.

[@MrOskiee]

Ahhhhhhhhh! 🎉🎉🎉 This is awesome!

[@dhLord64]

YES!!! I just got in to Sanderson and have been binging his videos. Perfect timing!!!

[@viorp5267]

7:33 That's not true though.... LOTR is now considered pure second world fantasy, but Tolkien considered it to be set in earth's mythical past no different to how Conan the Barbarian was. Arguably he birthed second world fantasy by being misunderstood which is funny

[@VoiceoftheRings]

Awesome interview guys!!! Enjoyed it!

[@DartonAndorc-rj2yq]

Nice, to see this video out finally

[@VSCProductionStudio]

Two beautiful human beings, hope this is the start of some more Sanderson content 👀

[@NerdoftheRings]

👀

[@thebrothersslim6056]

Yes please!

[@Blakselektor]

Absolutely amazing interview kudos!

[@p90497]

Please lets see mistborn on the screen. Im always recommending this series.

[@ltsLED]

Wow i just started reading The Way of Kings last week and you drop this. Ive become a big fan of Brandon pretty fast! Great Video!

[@agilemonk6305]

Fantastic Interview! ❤️❤️❤️

[@matthewnelson5293]

Very fun! I rarely watch his podcast with Dan Wells so the clip for Rings of Power was new to me and hilarious.

[@scottseals8750]

Great interview!! I'm hoping to make it to either the next Dragonsteel Nexus or the one after that.

[@JoeRonW93]

Great episode!

[@dancampbell189]

The news at 19:30 got a big "Ooo-ooooooooh!!" out of me! Spielberg doing Old Man's War?! Awesome!

[@capnpopetastic]

Awesome. Thanks for this.

[@rebbo02]

Before selecting a director, Brandon should develop a quiz to make sure they are truly nerds of his material.

[@jackculver412]

2 of my favorite people talking yes please

[@AneurinHoworth]

awesome that you got to go. Didn't know that you were a cosmere fan, but makes sense. Think you are both so great.

[@kristenrosales2919]

This is the nerdiest segment that I have ever seen. Good job!!

[@grillmeisterkush6396]

Sanderson is a great writer. Sometimes his writing feels a little too "young adult" for me but his books are all objectively top tier!

[@Xxpastore10xX]

What a guy ❤️

[@sikomatrix2445]

When the universe gives coincidences!! I literally started reading The stormlight archives. What are the odds! Lol

[@JaniceSeagraves]

I have to go with Helms Deep for best setting in LOTR.

this was great

[@nekekaminger]

16:45 I really hope that if a cinematic adaptation of the Cosmere is done some day it will be animated films in a really artsy style, similar to the illustrations in Yumi and the Nightmare Painter. I feel like that would work so much better than a "live action" adaption, which would necessarily have to be 90% CGI anyway considering the source material.

[@MrAlanCristhian]

I don't want a cinematic adaptation. But I know it will happen. And it will be good to introduce people to the cosmere.

[@Kati-did]

I know of him and read the WOT that he finished but I have never read his others and I don't know why! Just bought all of Mistborn and I am sure I will binge the rest. So much fun watching someone so known geek out about LOTR!

[@daem0nfaust]

I did *not* know Spielberg is doing Old Man's War. This is awesome news!

[@AJ-jo8wm]

I would like to see another video on angmar because I want to know more about it. Like what did there flags look like. And what did Carn Dûm look like as described in the book

[@LikeWhyTF]

Longest answer ever for When Did You 1st Discover Tolkien 😅

[@mkk-un9nz]

Man he is good

[@connor_phillipz5689]

Huge W

[@MrRobin1997]

yoooo i would love to see some cosmere content on here 👀

[@Qbone15]

I DON'T THINK THIS IS A WIND & TRUTH SPOILER, BUT IF YOU ARE SENSITIVE TO CHARACTER QUOTE SPOILERS DON'T READ! . . . Ok idk if anyone else picked up on this, but I'm pretty sure that Brandon makes a nod to Tolkien at the very very end of chapter 99 in W&T. Dalinar's line (won't spoil it here) is VERY similar to Samwise's line: "Come, Mr. Frodo! I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you!" If this was in fact an intentional nod then, WOW! What a cool moment.

[@devinreese1397]

The magic is returning sounds much like the "clerical powers" are returning theme in Dragonlance as well. In a way, gandalf of course represents a higher class of beings. The theme of a spiritual guide goes through all myths.

[@aalex7gp]

I thought I was the only one who watched repeatedly Brandon’s reaction to Dan’s Rings of Power score 😂😂😂

[@PopCultureCatechism]

Someone needs to ask Brandon about the influence of Plato on his writing cuz reading Stormlight, it seems like he was building it around the Republic, Euthyphro, and Gorgias.

[@BariatricUltra]

What a great get.

[@devinreese1397]

Funny he says Tolkien is only secondary world, when he used that term, but he very much made the story also, turn into a our world. Lol. In fact his original intellectual project was to make a mythology for britain, which he thought lacked an interesting complex mythology, and he wanted other people to participate in it, like a real mythology. The hobbit grew out of a bandtime story for his kids which he related to the older myths and which in the Lord of the rings very much welded the worlds together. But originally what became the Silmarillion was his mythopoeic construction in earnest. He says it in many places, but like he says "Hobbits needs explanation now," and all this is a translation of the red book, from an earlier world or time.

[@tomtaylor5623]

a shame he seemed to learn nothing from Tolkien, that being actually taking the time to put effort into your writing instead of just spamming out a story.

[@rapha_spi]

Lets gooo

[@Strider-bl5sq]

Good interview and I'm sorry that my comment is unrelated. Can't you use your NOTR powers and contacts to get in contact with the great Phil Dragash to make his audiobook version of The Silmarillion??!! That would be AMAZING! I don't get Brandon saying that its so hard to read. It's a masterpiece that to me, elevated Tolkien from extremely talented to absolutely genius.

[@aljosacebokli]

oh wow noice!!!!

[@SelahCoriell]

Should I start reading Sanderson?🤔 huge Tolkien fan here but I’ve never gotten into Sanderson books….maybe I’ll try it

[@solod2087]

Check one of his books out from the library to see if you like him. He's got a video on his channel on what to read as your first Sanderson book based on what sort of things you like!

[@brokenredflag]

Lord of the rings is one of the best movies in all time and theirs no sxx no bad words no gore. 👏👏👍

[@gideonmcevoy1949]

I read a book from Brandon Sanderson, and in it, he says he hates librarians(as a joke )(but maybe not)

[@emila9895]

So basically puting on One Ring is like entering Shadesmar... 🤔

[@devinreese1397]

Tolkien is giving us likely another 4 ages of man from Greek myth.

[@TheTolkienCurmudgeon]

This is a very interesting interview. But I need to live up to my name of Curmudgeon. As a professional writer Brian Sanderson definitely knows a lot about fantasy in its various genres. However, I think he is misapplying and misunderstanding the notion of "Secondary World" in regards to Tolkien. "Secondary World" does NOT mean that the story takes place on a "non-Earth" or in an Alternative Universe. It's better to think of these words as referring to the fact that what we see in our minds while reading tLotR is a world that contains rings of magical power, orcs, elves, dragons and IT EXISTS SOLELY IN OUR IMAGINATIONS. That's what makes is "Secondary". It doesn't matter if the setting for these magical things is our own world or another one. The point is that whether we imagine our world plus magic or another world plus magic in either case the end result is an imaginary totality. The fact that it is imaginary is what makes it "Secondary". The "Primary World" is the real world without wizards, dwarves, maiar, and so on. I think these ideas can be understood by reading Tolkien's essay "On Fairy Stories" and also by listening to the interviews with Christopher Tolkien which are available on KZbin. It seems to me that, properly understood, "Secondary World" is a concept that applies to all fantasy of whatever genre, and maybe even to all fiction in a sense. In addition, I do believe that Tolkien's faming device of the Red Book of Westmarch, and many other Tolkien references besides, point to the fact that JRRT did NOT imagine Middle-earth was another earth, but only this one we are standing on at the moment. It is perhaps then in an imaginary, legendary, mythical past which was pretty much all destroyed a few thousand years or so before even the Sumerians of Mesopotamia. Some people, including Tolkien, worry about how this just doesn't match up with what we know about ancient prehistory or even plate tectonics and so on. For me that's not a problem. We just engage in a bit of what Tolkien called "Secondary Belief" and we IMAGINE a big "What if?" In reality I actually believe in the primary world in which I know that tLotR didn't really happened. But I ENJOY an imaginary "world" in which Tolkien's Legendarium is the supposed actual MYTHIC past of the real world. At the same time we IMAGINE that the present world might contain a few dwindled hobbits and invisible faded Elves which are often now misunderstood as fairies and such. What Sanderson calls "Secondary World" fantasy should perhaps better be called "Alternative World" fantasy.

[@magus3553]

Where is the state of the Sanderson?

[@zamdrist]

Peter Jackson's background in horror films was absolutely key in adding to the gravitas of the Witch King, Black Riders, Minas Morgul, Shelob. That was huge.

[@daisysandusky1450]

Umm ok hello

[@kelaarin]

Why, oh why didn’t you buy Evermore?

[@johnsmoth7130]

Loving wind and truth except for... "The Message" has been injected more than in the other books. It's not unreadable, but I'm rolling my eyes more than I'd like.

[@maxxam4665]

Lovely interview, but I personally cannot stand his idea of magic.

[@jacketernity4609]

Seems to be the most divisive thing about his books. That & his humor. Still want to give him a shot someday though. Need to start a reading habit first. LoL.

[@TheHiggybaby]

It was his use of magic that really roped me into his worlds. I find them so fascinating!

[@maedle99]

I don't know if you've read his books, but he writes magic as if it's a science and it's really interesting. It comes from divinity and it can do all of these incredible fantasy things, but it manifests narrowly for humans and the characters need to learn the rules and how to control it or else they die. It also gives this sense of urgency to battles... you actually feel anxious and worried in conflicts because you KNOW resources are finite and the characters need to outsmart their enemies and come up with tangible strategies instead of just brute force and Deus Ex Machina.

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

4:00 PLEASE don't waste your time, Brandon! When the best thing people can say about a season of television is that it's not QUITE as atrocious as the absolute crapshow that came before it, that's not saying much. It's still crap.

[@ElijahDawkins-yb1uc]

It's a great show. he already watched the first season, so there's really no reason not to watch the second. The flaws of the first season are mostly fixed, and the highs (already great) are so much better.

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

@ElijahDawkins-yb1uc Okay, sure, whatever. Even if I felt like arguing with you, I'm sure you wouldn't listen to any of my legitimate complaints, so you can enjoy it all you want. But just because you like something doesn't mean it's good, and if you're going to say that quality's totally subjective, then just know that you're in the minority of people with your opinion.

[@JohnMuhammad-mg5wp]

Games of Thrones > Lord of the Dorks

[@K1181-r4o]

Too bad he went woke af with Wind and Truth

[@maxxam4665]

Too bad you feel the need to write comments like that.

[@P_a_n_d_y]

What does woke even mean?

[@TheHiggybaby]

Whenever I ask what "woke" means, I can never seem to get a straight answer. Perhaps you can help here.

[@travisbrown9936]

@@P_a_n_d_ythere was a single gay character and a bunch of people had a tantrum about it

[@travisbrown9936]

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