Eight Sleep Pod 4 : The BEST SLEEP YOU'LL EVER HAVE (but at a cost.)

[@BrandonTalbot]

A few things: 1) This isn't an Overview of what the Pod4 is. I figured by now pretty much everyone knows what the Eight Sleep is. It heats and cools your bed both sides independently. Plus I wanted to take a different approach then most people would on the platform. I have a ton of videos on these types of devices and I've got them linked in the description. 2) This was a comparison to Pod3 and not a review but I'm going to do a very lengthy review of this Pod later on. So if there are questions you have please let me know in this thread!

[@armandoarce1684]

When it cools does it get to a point where you actually feel cooler or is just cooler then a normal bed. I guess I'm curious if I can actually get to the point of being chilly which is what I would love.

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@armandoarce1684 Bro you'll straight up freeze if you set it low enough.

[@lovromedic2822]

@@BrandonTalbotcan you put some thin memory foam on top of it and still get cooling benefit, as i saw in another rewievs that it is a little bit uncomfortablr sleeping on it

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@lovromedic2822 I would personally not agree. I can’t even feel it. Even on their more robust versions I haven’t felt it. That being said you could cover it with memory foam but you’re kind of rendering the cooling effect moot. Memory foam holds a tremendous amount of heat and if it’s more than a few millimeters thin you wouldn’t feel the cooling effect.

[@lovromedic2822]

@@BrandonTalbot thanks for the answer. I have one more question: Is it true that you need to be subbed for one year and after that you get the benefits for free? Is this even working without the app?

[@chrischan3448]

My grandad was a wealthy man and he taught me a super important lesson : wanting it does not mean you need it or should buy it.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Smart man.

[@melissa_u]

As a pod3 and now pod4 user, the pod4 is money. The tap to heat and cool is genius and I have found it super reliable. Before, I’d be cold or hot but not want to turn on my phone, so I’d just deal with it (usually awake for longer than I’d like). Now, I reach down, tap, and pass right out again. I really love the updates. (Also, yes, I am your wife, but I still would not lie for you. I LOVE this product, and it’s a huge upgrade from our old system.)

[@BrandonTalbot]

Thank god you love it cause you’re stuck with it haha

[@nuffim7896]

Any idea what you can still do with the Pod4 without a subscription? And if the WiFi goes out, does the tap to cool still work?

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@nuffim7896 It's a great question and something I also need clarification on for the next video so let me ask.

[@JohnWhite-zt1qq]

Maybe by the Pod 8, the company will figure out a very basic remote control that each party could leave on their nightstand. It's really not that complicated. The Bedjet (an inferior product) comes with two remote controls...and app control!

[@BrandonTalbot]

I pass all of these suggestions along

[@dregm]

Specially for guest bedrooms

[@Mr.MasterOfMind]

Why is the BedJet inferior?

[@jacobkummer2067]

@@Mr.MasterOfMind BedJet can only cool your bed down to the temperature that your air is at. Its just AC for your bed

[@jasonfranciosa]

Pod 3 Cover was updated in 2023 where they got rid of the zipper system and mattress cover as well.

[@markbrouk7857]

Monthly subscription? No thanks.

[@frishdawgz]

it is required for 1 year only then you can unsub

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah it’s not a lifelong requirement but it’s not the best that you have to get it at all

[@DCDSG]

Any way to sleep better is kinda priceless in the long run

[@markbrouk7857]

@@BrandonTalbot its just annoying to have to track a subscription. Do you have an opinion on which one is the best?

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@markbrouk7857when you say which one is best? Are you asking which between brands, or which 8Sleep Pod is best?

[@SteveBIRK]

For me the cover changes seem like the best part. Seems like a cool upgrade. Not gonna upgrade as mine is a yer old but It's cool they are listening to feed back.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah I would wait. Some great updates but unless you could sell yours and make up some of the difference of cost I wouldn’t advise it

[@davidflorez1196]

Hope they will be listening that we don't want a subscription mosel

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@davidflorez1196 trust me they already know that no one wants it. It’s not changing anytime soon.

[@twennywonn]

Sounds like you have a Purple mattress. I have the Pod 3 and I love it but it makes my Purple 4 less comfortable. Now this was worth it to me because of the temp control. Is the Pod 4 cover thin enough to allow the Purple to retain more of its comfort?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yup love our purple mattress! And yeah this cover is much thinner than previous generations

[@ParadeTheGospel]

Im super interested in this but it just bothers me so much that there is a subscription service to it. I just dont understand why. Or why it has to be as much as it is. I bet thats the one thjng that turns so many people away as i know it does me.

[@BrandonTalbot]

I don’t either on the subscription thing… that’s not true, it’s called reoccurring revenue, otherwise their ROI substantially decreases. The problem, which I’ve told them many many times, is it feels like a massive nickle and dime to their customer base. The unit itself is incredibly valuable if you value your health, but they need to do a better job of pricing, pricing structure and total value to a customer that’s paying the subscription on top of the premium price of the unit.

[@ParadeTheGospel]

@@BrandonTalbot I am still very tempted to get it. My sleep is absolutely horrible and a big part of it is that I need something to cool my body down at night. Im at my wits end and gotta figure something out! I would have gotten this by now had it not been for the subscription service pushing me away. But if it vastly improves my sleep it will be worth it, even tho I hate it! I think I'll order over the next few days.

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@ParadeTheGospel literally last night slept downstairs and woke up in a ball of fire as the unit we have downstairs was unplugged. Went upstairs, got into my bed, which was ice cold and fell asleep instantly..

[@justonbrazda3846]

They need an upgrade program

[@BrandonTalbot]

They definitely do.

[@pctatc66]

DO NOT BUY THE POD 4 if you were considering canceling your autopilot membership after the first year! I was seriously considering buying this system until I had a conversation with customer service. I asked them if filters for the pod 4 were free with autopilot membership. They confirmed yes they were and would automatically send you one ever 6 months. I then asked them what happens when you cancel your membership how much are the filters direct from them at that time. They came back and said they currently dont sell the filters with out an autopilot membership. Wait what??> A necessary maintenance item cant be purchased but you allow people to cancel their autopilot membership? Seems to me that someone in management has developed a way to ENSURE that people HAVE to keep their Pod 4 Autopilot membership always active because can you imagine how filthty and disgusting innards would be with contaminated water? Ill share the entire conversation I had with them if you want. just let me know. SUCH A SHADY BUSINESS PRACTICE bordering on the ILLEGAL!

[@BrandonTalbot]

Really? This is bananas. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[@AntsDrone]

I was ready to buy it but sadly I think I’ll hold off, sounds like a rip off if I’m forced into a subscription for the life of the product just to maintain it. Sucks I was literally about to check out… glad I looked at more reviews and comments.

[@Awareness_With_Dennis]

So glad you posted this comment. The guy in the video is either incompetent or didn’t want to tell his audience this which I’m sure a out of people needed to know before thinking about purchasing this product

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@Awareness_With_Dennis whoa whoa whoa guy. It’s neither of those. I’ve asked many many questions to several people on the eight sleep team from basic customer service people, my own contact that oversees partnerships and even the VP, and AT THAT TIME, no mention of this was ever given to me, after asking those people asking multiple times what comes with autopilot and what is no longer available after an autopilot is cancelled.

[@adityakomatil]

Hey - I’m looking at purchasing a eight sleep pod; I wanted take a physical look at it and the packaging before buying it - is there a retail store where I can see it in-person or can purchase this only online? I’m also planning to move to Europe so wondering about its electrical data does it support 110-230 V AC - would be good if you share anything in this regards because I don’t find such information online

[@BrandonTalbot]

Unfortunately I don’t think they have any brick and mortar stores

[@pleighto77]

May Sound silly to ask. Can you time it into an alexa? like voice say "raise bed temp a degree" or such?? If internet goes out. If you have back up power do you mean your wifi router, or do you mean internet access?? What is this combined with a bed that you could adjust the softness of the bed, like a sleep number or some of those beds?

[@BrandonTalbot]

I don't believe you can link it to your Alexa.

[@MrAgility888]

What is the maintenance for the pod 4? Can you wash the sheet in a washing machine?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Correct

[@Kbeezzy23]

Can you still use the basic functions with out a subscription?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Manual temperature adjustments. That’s what you can control if you don’t have a subscription.

[@Kbeezzy23]

@BrandonTalbot appreciate the reply. People complaining about a subscription. Sounds like you can use it without one.

[@BrandonTalbot]

You definitely can, but they’ve put nearly every feature behind the subscription which didn’t use to be the case

[@Kbeezzy23]

@@BrandonTalbot i figured. Hahaha. What can you do. I'm specifically purchasing it for the cold feature. I'm in California so our winters are like 60 to 70 degrees. But our summers can get into the 90s to 100s.

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@Kbeezzy23 it’s gonna change your life when it comes to keeping you cool and comfortable throughout the night

[@Matt-jv3mk]

Brandon, for the snoring mitigation feature of the Pod 4 Ultra, does each side adjust tilt independently? Or do both sides get adjusted when one side detects snoring?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Unfortunately no. Both sides move together That’s a limitation of most adjustable bed frames,and because the cover isn’t split into two sections.

[@Matt-jv3mk]

@@BrandonTalbot Thanks. I kind of figured that out right after I submitted the comment by thinking to myself, "Wait. Independent tilt would require a split mattress." But, ya, I think the snoring mitigation feature, even if it's effective, would annoy a partner sleeping next to you.

[@adityakomatil]

Hi I’m keen to buy this but have some questions (1) can I put a bedsheet on top of the 8pod cover (2) if yes does it effect performance or is not recommended (3) can the pod hub go horizontal under the bed instead of on the side of the bed

[@BrandonTalbot]

1) yes, 2) No, 3) No it will burn the motor/cooling units out. Let me know if you have any other questions:)

[@palabra17]

what bed frame headboard do you have. I have seen that bed in other videos and am trying to find out.

[@BrandonTalbot]

I’m not sure on make and model but it’s a Purple mattress and bed frame

[@lynnenewlin3929]

am considering the pod 4 ultra, but have a full size mattress, serta hybrid 3000 series. Will the pod 4 ultra (with base) work with the full size hybrid mattress?

[@BrandonTalbot]

I don’t believe they offer it for a full. I think queen is the smallest.

[@preston26]

Maybe I missed it in the video...why didn't you go for the adjustable base?

[@BrandonTalbot]

No worries, we already had one when we purchased our purple mattress. A purple brand one. So it didn’t really make sense to get the ultra one.

[@brognar123]

how was sleep quality improved pre / post?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Hard to say with the Pod4 cause I’ve been sleeping with these systems for the last 5-6 years and I just won’t go back. Eight Sleep has data on their site from actual sleep studies. But I spent years being hot and uncomfortable taking hours to fall asleep and now I will zonk out within minutes.

[@brognar123]

@@BrandonTalbot Thanks. How many minutes of REM / Deep Sleep? Those are the two issues for me and supposedly EightPod impacts the length of these stages but its an expensive way to find out! Appreciate the detailed video

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@brognar123I’m happy to send you the data but it’s more or less irrelevant because it’s specific to me and it won’t mean much to you. 3:00 in rem sleep and 1:34 for deep sleep

[@jasonfranciosa]

Do you know if the new cover is compatible with the old hub? Most interested in a more comfortable cover.

[@jasonfranciosa]

For anyone wondering, it is. New cover works with the old hubs as well.

[@BrandonTalbot]

I’m sure it is, whether or not they’ll give you some of the functionality (the touch sensor) I have no idea.

[@gbelks1]

I can’t find this on their website - we have a split king and adjustable base already (Tempur-Pedic)…does pod 4’s (not ultra because we don’t need the base) new cover still flex enough to support an adjustable base and split 2 king mattress?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Does the base split independently?

[@gbelks1]

@@BrandonTalbot yes!

[@BrandonTalbot]

Unfortunately it won’t. You’d have to go with SleepMe’s DockPro, but I’d strongly suggest not investing with that company. They’ve got a pretty bad track record record of breaking at 4months and horrible customer service.

[@gbelks1]

@@BrandonTalbot got it - thanks for the help 😊

[@JamesBartlett1994]

Does it have the same subscription cost?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yes

[@TSN648]

Is the max mattress height for the Pod 4 cover really only 11” from what you can tell? Seems small? Great review - thank you!

[@BrandonTalbot]

No it would cover much much thicker mattresses than that.

[@paradox9357]

Nice video. Two questions. Is it worth the upgrade from Pod 2 and second since they got rid of the zipper, wouldn't the cover now slide around more or even perhaps pull up off the mattress? Thanks!

[@BrandonTalbot]

Great questions, personally I do think the upgrade is worth it. The performance boost is so so nice. Plus it’s much quieter, the tap control is also great, and the new cover is awesome. I have seen very little difference in fit

[@ryancampbell0]

Do you know if there are any changes to durability? Is it more or less prone to leaks than the Pod 3?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah I’m not sure on that one. Only time will tell. My dog is on the bed all the time sometimes sleeps on the the bed and I haven’t had any issues even with the pod2 but I know some have had leaks.

[@wildchild7585]

@@BrandonTalbot I also have a question about the cover that goes over the bed - how durable do you think it is? I have cats that sleep on the bed regularly and sometimes they knead their chosen spot before settling into a nap. Do you feel like having the protective cover along with a sheet over the mattress pad would be barrier enough to prevent punctures?

[@PascalMJL]

I was so mad when I got the email today about the Pod 4 because I bought the Pod 3 two months ago, and paid MORE $$. But this is the most comprehensive review that helped me understand the trade-offs. Unlike many reviewing the Queen/King versions, living in a small 500sq foot space, the trade offs for the Full are not worth it. Though it's 2x cooling (which is essential when it gets +30°C/86°F in my bedroom), the bigger unit takes too much space, and the touch pad realistically needs a small visual display to be of any value (like perhaps a small imbedded hybrid EightSleep dimmable alarm clock/remote control instead). No one wants to be blindingly tapping their bed half-asleep in the middle of the night.

[@BrandonTalbot]

The touch control works pretty well, and I get where they’re going with the haptics. They don’t want you to have to look at anything but it does need some refinement

[@justonbrazda3846]

Figures. Just bought a pod 3. Like are people supposed to buy another 2500 dollar pod every year?

[@BrandonTalbot]

When we had this secret meeting, I very specifically told them, stop making a new product every year. You’re going to devalue your products and you’re going to piss off customers, or you’ve got to have a killer trade in program.

[@BrianBurk]

Unfortunately, I purchased the Pod 3 and have had issues with it for the past 7 months. It doesn't work very well. It is a waste of money $2400 for a product that consistently doesn't work. I doubt the pod 4 will be any more reliable.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Have you not contacted customer service?

[@IzzyFX007]

Guys, €18 per month for your sleep IS NOT EXPENSIVE if the service and system is good.

[@BrandonTalbot]

Maybe not, but when it’s also on top of a $2,500 hardware purchase it is financially prohibitive for most people.

[@EugeneTaiwan]

Will tap water have too much minerals for the system?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Usually you will used distilled water

[@purplecello1048]

hey man - i've never had a 8 pod, but I did use the sleepme pro dock something. It cooled really quick and I liked it, but I sleep naked and my skin felt really uncomfortable against the cover because it felt like a fabric covered plastic bag in the sense that my skin couldn't breathe when laying on it. Do you sleep with clothes on? Have you or any of your viewers expressed this sensation? Is the 8 product better with this particular issue? Or does everyone just sleep with clothes on and I'm the only one lol

[@glassmw9823]

I only wear boxers, so I’d be curious about this too

[@BrandonTalbot]

Definitely not the only one, but the cover rests directly on the mattress underneath the sheets.

[@gmsmolen]

The taller and bigger Doc is NOT an improvement. Not everyone has a huge bedroom and for me there is NO place for me to put the unit that I will not trip over. Pod 3 is already to large to fit under the bed. The newly designed cover is definitely an improvement. Especially since there are many mattresses these days that still need to be rotated and taking the Pod 3 on and off multiple times a year is a pain in the ass. 8 Sleep still has not addressed the REQUIRED APP SUBSCRIPTION. That is a BIG issue and I cannot afford the additional monthly subscription fee. It should be OPTIONAL. 8 Sleep should consider making a BASIC, No Frills, Non-high Tech Quality Sleep solution. I think they would sell a lot since not EVERYONE wants or needs all those high tech features. Since SleepMe has shitty service and support, and 8 Sleep is far to expensive and large, this leaves me withOUT any cooling solution. So very SAD!!!

[@BrandonTalbot]

It is an improvement because it improves so many other important components.True it doesn’t work for you but FYI you shouldn’t be laying your dock pro on its side (if that’s what you’re doing).

[@ShervinShares]

this is a game-changer... i want one now!

[@BrandonTalbot]

But you have one dork:)

[@ShervinShares]

@@BrandonTalbot hehe

[@youtubepro2323]

Nooooooooo I wish it didn't require water because I still have a Murphy bed I guess I'm going to have to sell my Murphy bed because I have the money for this it's just a Murphy bed is not available to be compatible the I spent well over $10,000 on

[@BrandonTalbot]

Yeah I’m not sure how it would work with a Murphy bed

[@motivationmore7025]

or...you just get a 599$ Chilipad and all good.

[@BrandonTalbot]

As someone who’s owned the chili pad, Ooler and like 3 dock pros, hey if it doesn’t break on you go for it.

[@divyv20]

Hey Brandon , very good video . I can do better editing in your videos which can help you to get more engagement in your videos . Pls lmk what do you think ?

[@BrandonTalbot]

Send me a link to your work

[@MOAB-UT]

Overly complex. WAY too expensive. Should have a temp. display. ON/OFF, Temp. Up and Down. That's it. NO SUBSCRIPTION EVER.

[@BrandonTalbot]

There are models like that, this is not one of them.

[@MOAB-UT]

@@BrandonTalbot Right, so it's a FAIL. Greedy people trying desperately to find a way to monetize a mattress pad. This thing should be $200- no more.

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@MOAB-UThahaha ok

[@walou3917]

is this a paid sponsorship????

[@BrandonTalbot]

No. They did not pay me. As stated in the video, they gave me the unit.

[@mikb2619]

that wig 🤣🤣

[@BrandonTalbot]

That wig cost me $20!!!

[@divyv20]

Hey Brandon , I have send you the email have you have not replied yet ?

[@claksaface]

This isn't an objective review, if you offer a promo code for the product you lose all credibility

[@BrandonTalbot]

You’re entitled to your opinion… but also, 1) I said it wasn’t a review and it’s not, 2) I also said I was going to be somewhat biased. So maybe watch the video before your fingers hit the keyboard.