The Chinese PEQ-15A | Laserspeed FL-5 & M3

The FL5 and M3 from Laserspeed. Promising FP performance. But some work to be done on the execution.
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[@TheRealXrayDoc]

It should be noted Lasersneed is currently working on a new version of the M3 that will be much smaller, lighter, and get rid of the QD mount. They're also working on updates to have crane plugs. I really love how responsive and quick to update their products they've been based on user feedback.

[@zokhrozzWoomzy]

@@MrTartarSauced

[@MrTartarSauced]

​@@zokhrozzWoomzyYes I can also get it from your mom

[@evey0259]

​@@MrTartarSaucedYou've never bought one of these types of things, have you?

[@chinesemassproduction]

Man, I sure hope so.

[@Big_Floyd]

Sneed

[@BrassFacts]

Some important notes for buyers. To buy direct you need to go to their ebay listing (linked in description), their website requires a call to purchase. Laserspeed seems to be actively improving their production lasers in real time. The M3 is unmodified compared to the version in the video (confirmed 7.7.23) The FL5 has received some iteration -Some have claimed they've tightened up the turrets on the older design, this is a QC variation. -There is a 2.1 version that has capped turrets. I've yet to see a listing for these. -There is a "2.2" version that has a tool only turret design. These are listed on their ebay page. These are the current production. -As far as my contact has indicated to me. No modifications have been made to the selector dials to prevent the blow I received, but the turrets have received a better design to prevent wobble.(7.7.23) Much like with the Somogears, you should understand that QC is not the strong suite of these types of companies. Many have already reported wildly inconsistent product output. Buy, and then RMA as needed until you get a satisfactory one.

[@LockDoggg]

What’s their ebay username? Trying to go buy directly from them as suggested.

[@BrassFacts]

@LockDoggg linked in the description

[@lililililililili8667]

Why don't manufacturers start selling devices that can easily be modified to have full power by the end user

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

​@@lililililililili8667 The regime doesn't want civilian serfs to own such kit. Duh.

[@LRRPFco52]

If you've ever seen a Chinesium hobby knife, the knurled portion turns but doesn't tighten on the blade. They are notorious for making imitation or partially-functioning devices designed to look like real ones.

[@toddinfl]

Hop flips u off from bugout location.

[@wonderingweirdo7476]

Yeah! With his Ween!

[@Shimitzu]

11:55 Just take apart this clamp. Take a file and slowsly file off the part that should lean flat against the picattiny clamp. Then when assembled back to the body it will "click" on the lock position way more firmly and less likely to losen out.

[@IndianaMan44]

After you and Hop did the laser tier list I found this thing. Thanks for reading my mind and putting out a video! Always enjoy your insight!

[@SMACK1978]

Impatiently waited for this review. Glad I did! Thanks for the work you guys are putting in. 👊🏼

[@jedi7489]

Your videos just keep getting better.

[@nottonyhawk123]

Some neat lasers with a few quirks that sound like the company is at least trying to iron out. It would be interesting to see an update to this video in say a year to see if there are major improvements to these lasers that turn them from a "maybe buy" into "solid option"

[@SpecOpsGear]

The ir illuminator market sucks so i'm happy someone's getting in

[@kodygrant5077]

You can remove the QD and use a nut and bolt to mount it. The tape switch can be cut and spliced into a Surefire or Unity switch. The M3 is pretty a pretty damn good full power option for the price.

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

Wait? Really?

[@SpecOpsGear]

Thats a good idea. Once i mount a LAM, i dont usually want to move it around or remove it.

[@fancyfancypunx]

Thanks for saving me the money of trying one of these! I'll wait a few iterations till it's improved.

[@the_realist_John_Doe]

love waking up to a new vid from my favorite laser aiming module review channel.

[@schizosaint777]

Dude I’m fired up to see your vcog review

[@RiggidTactical]

Sweet video! Thanks for the review

[@RunningWithSauce]

Spot on regarding the windage and elevation along with the proprietary switch pad. My elevation and windage adjustments need a flathead to adjust. The plug is a wannabe aircraft style gx13 3 prong which I’ve already modified. Unity wired in. I’ve got 2,000 rounds on mine and don’t have the windage and elevation issues you guys have. But I’m now going to cap them or tape over hah . Great review.

[@RunningWithSauce]

I'm back. Another 1,000 rounds last night. Still holding zero. Kept up with a DBAL D2 on the range IR illum wise. I must have the updated version as its good to go. Tons of great drills but only pushed it to 200 yards. Battery died 2 hours in which was short of the D2 by about 30 minutes. My buddy was using the D2. I hate the pressure pad setup though, truly. Tripple tapping it Negligent Activated for a few people that wanted to run it. Laserspeed sold me another cable and I'm going to splice a unity hot button in and see if a tactile button fixes that. For 1,000 dollars it needs to have a crane plug.

[@chadkhl1690]

Your videos keep getting better! It makes the review very enjoyable to watch even though the product doesn't interest me much

[@jamaicanomen]

Thank you Brass facts!❤

[@Horseysauce]

I bought an fl5 with the supposedly upgraded turrets the other day. Fingers crossed it'll hold up

[@diIbert]

This was an amazing review.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks

[@forestrussell-yount1355]

really cool review

[@I_Poke_Holes_In_Paper]

What stuns me is that that the NV market has just no good middle ground. The first place to make a sub $500 Civ Laser, Illuminator and Whitelight combo that doesn't stink will dominate the space. There is certainly room in everyone's toolbox for 1 really good unit, but for setting up multiple guns, not everything needs a MAWL.

[@Valkyrie1911]

Shit, I don't even need white light. Just give me an IR/vis laser with a decent quality IR illum. At this point something close to a MAWL, but not $3500 would get my money in a heartbeat. I don't want FP because with my luck itll shit the bed and I'll be out $2k. I would go with the D2, but its just so ugly and that tumor on the side....If the civ version of the OGL ever comes to market, I'll order 2 of them.

[@ClitoridectomyGroyper]

believe it or not some things just can't be that cheap

[@himawaricopter]

It's because NV historically isn't marketed at civilians. But hopefully that will change now that civilan nvg ownership is blowing up. Give it a couple years and US companies will be either forced to make more competitively priced products, or the Chinese products will continue to improve their quality to meet demand, similar to what's happened with Holosun.

[@Cody_Mathis249]

Love the content, I’ve been watching for awhile now and you consistently offer great advice + knowledge. Keep it up!

[@maxcopple8187]

I was hoping to pick one of these up before you dropped a review on one. Either way glad someone is making a LAM that doesn't suck for 1k ish.

[@N-A762]

LASERSNEEED

[@boomlightsout]

Current fl5 product sales have the capped turrets and the cap serves as the tool to adjust zero. Zeroing detents are pronounced but id say they are close to 1 moa or slightly more per click. (Only had a chance to use it at 25 yds so far)

[@Silverdunk]

I remember getting one of the “older” models of the FL5 and the only way to turn it on was to hit the damn button around 4-6 times to turn on

[@lililililililili8667]

I'm impressed they figured out the alternate email was yours

[@fun2916]

My little brother uses these on his airsoft guns. I didn’t realize how dedicated airsofters were until going out with them one night. They dress up in military uniforms, plate carriers, helmets, etc. For the night ops they are required to have real nods to participate. I died in the first 10 minutes lol. My old ass can’t hang with these young bucks anymore.

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

Just hit the start button and respawn lol

[@TheYouTubeMechanic]

Holy segue linus. i didnt even skip the ad.

[@PistoleroJesse]

In for vcog review!

[@knowtheplan472]

great now these are gonna triple in price and be a pain to get your hands on

[@ripHalo0002]

I think the auto focus walked away lol 15:26. Thanks for all the info tho

[@snakebite210]

Brassfacts Friday 🎉🎉🎉

[@rusiatevuetibau6333]

That “CRIME” part spoke too much facts 😂😂😂😂

[@Snapper314]

At this point after wasting money on a Somogear PEQ-15, I've decided to go with either a Steiner DBAL-D2 or the upcoming Phantom Hill CTF3. Either should be a more reliable unit with good performance.

[@oo-ru5lt]

A Canadian company called Newcon sells these at almost double the price, touting it as the end-all, be-all of LAMs. I don't know how those clowns get away with it.

[@spehhhsssmarineer8961]

Canadian companies are some of the worst.

[@mikeanshit158]

I ll wait for the eotech. Might be a while. For now i got a used D2. I like it with the axon switch.

[@silvershet]

Honest question: Looking at 11:00, could I remove the QD mount and replace it with a cross-bolt rail mount? I was thinking at the very least I could remove the lever and simply use a cross-bolt with identical threads + lock tight which would solve that issue.

[@Peterkass235]

this is doable and easy there is even a guide online on which bolt you can swap the nut to a better one too. my qd on my laser speed works fine but one of my buddies didnt so he put a bolt from lowes into it and its held zero with no issues at all. also recently played with a laser speed from a month ago that the qd seems much better somehow. I think passing up one of these is a bad idea, considering a bolt costs like a few bucks and solves near all of the issues

[@VM-yt2fj]

The things that needed to be improved: 1. Lense Cap: Surpirngly right? For the AR platform in the West, that's why the ngal is so small for this reason. The same goes for the newly issued QBZ-191, the handguard is curved with an angle and if your lasers module is too big, it's going to affect how you grip your rifle in the case of emergency. In the very deep thought of an operator's mind, it's always some small details that prevent it from going smoothly. If you think about it as something like a lense cap swinging around your laser device, you would be hesitant about it mindless of the physics appearance. 2. illuminator: More output and the pattern control needed to be stronger. 3. Visible laser: VECSEL is needed, and output needed to be increased, I've heard people say you don't need a fp laser, but that's not valid if you needed to use it at dim light or early sunrise setting which actually has lots of mil. operations do have a schedule like that. They are not really all at night. And if you go from a sunshine environment into a darker underground structure or urban building during broad daylight. You needed to have a stronger laser pointed either within the structure or from the outside. Though Holosun does it right, it was around 25-40mw by observation. Anything close to 80mw like the ngal is not really needed for the sake of exposing your position. But that high output shows possibly friendly troops who using a similar laser device if people can tell or not. 4. Coating: for the users who used these lasers module, the chance that they go to a different environment is huge, so if the coating not doing the job, it would deflect the lifespan of the laser. Waterproofness, go rust, etc. 5. Locking Mechanism: Lasers module often needed to be taken on/off from the weapons for testing/re-zeroing after some rifle accessories placement consideration. The speed of how fast you can repeat the cycle determine the comfortability and general echo of the training or field test. And the perst are doing pretty good. 6. Aftermarket crane plug capabilities: As it is a unit for oversea sale, expected are lots of Western-made weapons lights pair with it. 7. More intuitive features: Just like the perst-series, the max output mode. The other basics are not listed here, such as does it can withstand high recoil or prolonged use reliability. One thing special about these laser modules is actually the battery, please be careful because it's rather a small circuit within these small devices, if people store enough time with a battery on it, it could damage it really quickly. If they can improve the circuit protection and the battery compartment, it would be a huge plus. Given it's not a clone of some Western products. This is good enough as it's just an early version. In my estimation, they will have a version.3 out around the end of the year. Will really look into these products next year to see if anything major upgrades are applied. If it meets all of the listed requirements, I wouldn't hesitate to drop $2k for that in the future.

[@chris.t1629]

Awesome video. Any thoughts on the 2L1 as a cheap replacement for the CQBL or Holosun 221?

[@thegodsmacker1]

Looks like for the new one you could replace the qd with a good adm mount

[@ROOSTER333]

8:42 I'm always on far right mode man

[@prototype3a]

Replace QD with DIN12.9 screw and washer? Or replace with QD parts from ADM?

[@RomanicusSparticus]

Woot woot. Another nova video with some weird dude talking a lot. Always look forward to your videos!! Hope you’re doing well!

[@Gunmonkey5]

I was going to say, what if you just swap out the qd for a actual screw in bolt like alley key style or something similar to the perst?

[@highdesertdrew1844]

I've really begun to regret not buying into NV like 5-10 years ago before it started to go mainstream and really got expensive. Gen-2 PVS-14's aren't $900 anymore. Even with the higher power, it really feels like the quality of life issues here are important. It will be interesting to see what happens developmentally with the product, however the price point is going to be an impediment, I don't know if the high price of NV gear is considered a requirement so that the equipment will be considered serious.

[@darknature79]

Best thing for the money Ive found is sionyx aurora black,got one for half price online in new condition and it works awesome. I also found a atn viper with skull crusher for two hundred on OfferUp but it's hard to find gen1 1x now. Ghost hunters used to be everywhere and now people want 500 for em.

[@railfanningpoints2.045]

It's always been expensive.

[@PandemicGameplay]

gen 2 is terrible though compared to gen 3. you can get elbit gen 3 pvs14 for 2800 bucks when they go on sale which trust me is well worth compared to a 1k gen 2.

[@highdesertdrew1844]

@@PandemicGameplay My point is that Gen-2 PVS-14's are now $2K not $900 like they were about 5-10 years ago. Prices have gone up steeply since the pandemic.

[@RedEyePergo]

I got a Somogear Peq 15 clone based on your review. Really happy with it. Got it potted for the extra $10 cost $250 total ! How would you compare the Laserspeed to the Somogear ?

[@RunningWithSauce]

It’s a lot better than the Somogear. It’s metal to start.

[@Swissk31300BO]

@@RunningWithSaucebetter how? Do u have first hand experience?

[@ScullCandy56]

@@Swissk31300BO these are better in the sense they have been designed from the ground up for real steel firearms and laserspeed currently supplies IR laser aiming modules to the PLA and PLAN and these are currently issued.

[@RedEyePergo]

​​​​@@RunningWithSauceeah if housing material is the only perk idgaf . Im talking about laser power and ability to maintain zero. Polymer or nylon is fine by me less weight im already running cermic plates and a ballistic helmet with my PVS 14 gotta save ounces somewhere. Also i took the blue limiter screws out and the full power laser is fuckin blinding bright

[@RunningWithSauce]

@@RedEyePergo Sure if you're planning for any serious in world use other than punching paper and steel. If you are, WHEN, not IF you knock the Somogear around, its going to 1) lose zero and 2) likely break. If the use case for you is range bunny night shoots, it might work.

[@RadTV]

Maybe see if laser speed will send you their new units… seems like they improved the turrets.

[@markrichards7452]

We ❤ lasersneed

[@thomasmason9070]

I wonder if you could replace the QD with a Midwest or other part to beefen it up?

[@kuchakd]

Was the QD on the fl5 better than on the m3? Also how did the fl5 break? Aside from the turrets obviously.

[@navrhy3075]

Holy shit you are a legend

[@joshuamartin5831]

You probably have subscribers who would be happy to design you an aftermarket QD mount.

[@ascndentkunglao]

Would to see if you can get your hands on an InvisibleSight NGAL or LA5 would like to know your thoughts and it's an option in the price range.

[@destroyerofgear]

New IS NGALs arent shipping until late July. I ordered very early in Jan so I'll be one of the first few shipped, will be posting a video as soon as I receive it.

[@CantoniaCustoms]

They also sell a standalone fp ir laser for...... $50.

[@ragedashboard6374]

Thanks for this! Next on the list, LAM-3G??

[@kuchakd]

Is it not the same thing, just rebranded?

[@ragedashboard6374]

@@kuchakd I think the housing and mount is made in Canada. I could be wrong.

[@kuchakd]

@@ragedashboard6374 to be honest I almost bought the LAM from tactical imports but after watching this video and seeing that laserspeed updated the turret caps, I just went ahead and bought one directly from them. I simply can’t justify the double the price on something that I’m willing to bet is nearly identical.

[@ragedashboard6374]

@@kuchakd youll like it.

[@robbieknight4508]

Mosquitos in Texas are slaying it right now

[@IndianaMan44]

Can Primary Arms just go ahead and save the day? If they added LAM's or a light/laser lineup they would mop the floor with all these weak half baked options out there.

[@CatMask556]

The real question is, how can you add a chevron to a LAM?

[@BrassFacts]

L3 had peq15s with circle dot difusers. Time for chevron laser

[@DeltaSierra0605]

​@@BrassFactsNah, Full blown ACSS with BDC and wind holds

[@spehhhsssmarineer8961]

⁠@@DeltaSierra0605Don’t forget the ranging features!

[@CLEARVISIONOVERLAND]

New version has capped turrets thankfully.

[@Rhys_A_Roni]

@Brassfacts Could you remove the qd on your own and just match the thread pitch with a machine screw and make your own crossbow utilizing the existing cleat? Like is the QD part able to be removed from the unit and you could just put a bolt with a washer in its place and rethread into what ever the qd threads into?

[@BrassFacts]

I believe some people have, so yes in theory.

[@Rhys_A_Roni]

@@BrassFacts cool. Yeah I didn’t have one in hand so I was curious as to if the qd mount was removable from the claw. That’s good information and for the price of a screw and washer could make this a pretty laser unit for a second gun

[@josh656]

Nice priority mail reference. -Former Postal Inspector

[@tammydillon9444]

Was that in WJ? Thought I recognized those trees. 😁

[@Dunkkmaster]

@Brassfacts Do you plan on reviewing the updated units? They seem to have improved the selector switches and the zeroing turrets.

[@BrassFacts]

hop has a new one, it seems to just be the turrets. the selector may as well be the same.

[@Dunkkmaster]

@@BrassFacts thanks for the reply!! how is it holding up? Is he making a review on it?

[@BrassFacts]

@@Dunkkmaster Im not sure if he is.

[@goawaybaizuo]

I've been really lucky with my somogear. I've had it for 4 months and have about 2500 rounds on it. It's worked great. This thing looks chungus af

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

The quality control on those units is all over the place. Sure yours might have lasted thousands of rounds, but one could just as easily break within a few hundred. I see them as sort of a novelty.

[@goawaybaizuo]

@@FinalLugiaGuardian my original one did break pretty fast. The laser went like 30 degrees to the left. They warrantied it pretty quickly. Definitely not "go to war" material. However, their ngal may be. They have been doing extensive testing and tuning for over a year. I actually took my peq apart and reinforced the solder and covered the board in liquid tape. Something I would suggest anyone do. Unfortunately, until American companies dont see the American people as an afterthought were stuck with this. I have a feeling once the big players like L3 start to feel threatened by the Chinese upstarts they will pressure the government to start grabbing them at customs, if not making arrests.

[@denvercyclist]

17:25 Is the full track of Hop singing about your dog on SubscribeStar?

[@FinalLugiaGuardian]

So then, question. The M3 vs Holosun LS321?

[@TheFORUNNERGaming]

The QD mounts are ass on my M3, otherwise, i love it.

[@tf19Twigy]

Laserspeed M6 review coming soon? 😁

[@cxsey8587]

If they had crane plugs and dropped the QD I would def look at these a bit more

[@dlistmemer591]

Laser Sneed Formerly chucks

[@540isilver]

i have used these cheap high power laser and they all seem to start not holding zero after awhile.i may have to try this laser speed out its way cheaper

[@ImperiumLibertas]

Is it the laser or the mount that ends up losing zero?

[@540isilver]

@@ImperiumLibertas the laser stopped holding zero. i was ok for the first couple hundred rounds. not fun when it goes out in the middle of a night hunt. my holoson 321 is my best cheap laser combo never lost zero. for light weight and power i like the us night vision d ir v.

[@JitteryPickles]

you got a great head of hair, Brass.

[@BrassFacts]

I cut it all off

[@BierMeister08]

What's that metal fire pit thing at the end of the video? Looks nice.

[@Hoplopfheil]

It's a Solo stove

[@BierMeister08]

Thanks Hop Pls do more livestreams

[@Zoraxon]

But, if one is to get a Chinesium "airsoft only" laser would you recommend these over the somogear?

[@BrassFacts]

hard to say. If the QD on the M3 is improved, yeah.

[@HugeCockAndBalls]

somogear is the master race

[@justincoleman9946]

What's up with the glowing spots at around 9:54? Looks like an IR chemlight broke open or something.

[@BrassFacts]

exactly that yep

[@benjamingibson8458]

Peking 15

[@Hideout2468]

Lol

[@StabbyMcStabwood]

0:44 wait, I thought square one was crime. What part of the video do you explain that?

[@I2AT]

Did you notice an issue with the pressure pad delay on the Chinese fl5 and M? Are you in Idaho?

[@BrassFacts]

yep actually.

[@addisonkempf649]

You been lifting? lookin HUGE.

[@AgGalaxy7]

Thise Battlefield 4 lights are No Joke😂.

[@livingtheamericandreaminth1872]

Order you a somo gear PEQ15 get the potted version and run it on the scar H

[@michaelnyden8056]

If invisiblesight can get their act together I think their ngal might be the best replica performance/durability small and lightweight device available.

[@SuperXrayDoc]

Apparently someone got one of the ngals and while the build was good quality it didn't hold zero

[@michaelnyden8056]

@@SuperXrayDoc do you remember where that review was so I can reach out to the individual?

[@SuperXrayDoc]

​@@michaelnyden8056it was an anon on /nvg/ so I don't think so but you can ask on there

[@rdsmith334]

I’ve had extremely good luck w my somogear ngal.

[@GrimRealityGroup]

You should check out the invisiblesight peq15 replica. Hear its like a somogear but just way better and Im curious to see how that one stacks up against this.

[@ArmandD]

will you be reviewing the SCAR-H out of curiosity ?

[@BrassFacts]

no a full review. but it will be discussed.

[@ergofoxxxy]

how much is it on aliexpress? Usually the same item sold on ebay will be sold there for half as much.

[@mimosa9825]

same cost, I just checked

[@angryveteran8585]

those YHM cans flash as bad as the internet says? is it an unacceptable amount? just asking bc i thought i saw one in the beautiful bean footage

[@BrassFacts]

it's completely average and fine. We have a turbo k in our group and I've never noticed bad lfash.

[@ThomasShue]

Get rid of the QD or disassemble and remove the paint.

[@turdferguson2863]

That's the problem, you had it set to Chuck

[@akmarksman]

So you're saying the FL5 is "goOd eNuF" for steyr TMP usage? ;)

[@whiskeyactual.]

So for the moment, potted somo's ftw?

[@rahealharisshabbir]

Hopefully Z-Bolt will put out a good lam

[@BrassFacts]

we'll see, their laser has died right before production a couple times now.

[@rahealharisshabbir]

@@BrassFacts oof

[@Hugh-Glass]

I would jump at one of these for $200 or $300 but no way am I buying a headache for 1k (give or take). That said, thanks for the review.

[@svenghoolie]

Ill probably buy one for an airsoft gun

[@Esch_atton]

15:02 "the issues with the cutie"

[@nevets916]

VCOG review coming up?

[@BrassFacts]

yep

[@doc-t-8648]

imma just buy the airsoft one for now until i actually can afford nods and the full setup. GOBBLESS!

[@riu.1180]

Can you not just duct tape the aiming adjustment turrets? Obviously that's ugly and far from ideal, but do you ever mess with your laser zero again once you set it?

[@BrassFacts]

I dont think duct tape really is a solution. Like if it sits in a safe or bag? sure.

[@ronbaer67]

900 doll hairs you say. i need to go buy some dolls

[@JonDoe-ef4tz]

Wow he finally got a haircut :p

[@russellmurphy1359]

Well thanks for taking ANOTHER well kept secret and turning it into unobtainium

[@BrassFacts]

What a attitude... That being said. LS seems really looking to try to improve their product. So more sales, more improves. Win win.

[@russellmurphy1359]

@@BrassFacts still love the channel lol