Breaking a Condor knife

I bought a Condor Bushlore knife on eBay. Lets try to break it and see what happens!
Dave Whipple

[@ChrisWilkesSurvival]

I did have a knife with a defect like that but I sold it to a sucker on eBay.

[@ChrisWilkesSurvival]

But seriously, for 20 bucks looks like you did ok but if it wasn't in the description on eBay I'd make sure my feedback reflected that.

[@pacificbushcraftandfirecra6358]

Hilarious

[@Bushradical]

I love it!

[@Bushradical]

I think I'll send the guy a link and see what he has to say.

[@evanswink5604]

Chris Wilkes Survival I hate people like you.

[@MrSIXGUNZ]

Thanks much for the test and sharing this with us all!!! Blessings to you and your family 😇 🇺🇸

[@Bushradical]

Thanks 6 Guns!

[@mikefox7947]

I wanna get a condor bushlore but every video I look up on it I feel disappointed after watching it this video was a big help thanks I feel condor has major qc issues that need solved before I purchase one

[@Bushradical]

Thanks for the comment Mike. Ironically I just got done editing a Bushlore review, with my friend Chris Wilkes and I'll be putting it up very soon. Look for it.

[@flipflat4814]

Check out the full tang BPS B1 bushcraft knife, it a 1066 carbon steel 28.99 Ukraine version of this knife. Don't let the inexpensive price fool you, it's a good mid-level knife with a true 0 scandi grind and has the same edge retention as my Mora companion.

[@davidfirth6535]

Its been dipped in white vinegar for cleaning rust off for too long, regards, David.

[@johnsanders8287]

That is exactly what happened!! I ve done it myself before I learned, forcing a patina DOES remove material. I learned the hard way... to submerge the handle... I cut an old hickory mod. Right where I d made a choil. Took a minute to figure out. But those thin carbon steel blades like condor and more, can be cut with a file over half way through, and still not break.

[@ghostship7823]

You are exactly right. Seen the same happen when cleaning a few of my old knives.

[@honorb4glory606]

I've purchased four Condor knives and one machete. I only have complaints with one of them, and they're insignificant. Just a kydex sheath that isn't very tight, and a scandi grind I had to smooth out a little. I love every Condor product I have.

[@billyprendergast6631]

Thanks for your reply David,enjoyed you and your wife on alone season four.Stay safe.

[@Bushradical]

Thanks

[@derekthompson819]

Just to let you know condor has an excellent garentee on their knives doesn't even matter if your the original owner. send a pic and contact coustemer service.you send them the knife keep the sheath and they send you a new one

[@WaynesGoneWild]

It is now 6 years on, so did it ever fail?

[@mickbellinger7560]

Hey David sure do like your show even this old dog can learn ... thanks ... watching you ... 👍😊

[@leroy7513]

I agree I think that's a defect that is going all the way through the blade. And like you I would be afraid of depending on it. I'd use it for a shop knife around the house. Still got a good price on that model.

[@pacificbushcraftandfirecra6358]

Don't blame you for being weary of the defect, it does look suspect. Otherwise, looks like a great size knife. Great video rabbit! TFS

[@Bushradical]

Hey TSP. Its an awesome knife. I've had it on my belt since that video. No hard use or anything like that, but it's been great. Love the size.......If it DOES break, idle likely get a new one. digging it.

[@michaelulrich7008]

Looks like a stress fracture in the blade, usually a heat treat issue, I work in die stamping and we punch out clips using 1/8 inch stainless steel with die sections, the part of the die involved in the blanking (cutting) operation that have those same fractures and they perform in that scenario just fine. Stainless steel is one of those metals that is super hard on integral stamping details. FYI. I think you"re fine. Thanks for all your information.

[@squintartwork]

Nicely done. You can send the knife into condor and they will replace it.

[@Navigatorbythestars]

Can you send it back to Condor? I heard they are very good about their knifes and their reputation . Life time guarantee says so much about there product !

[@marodriguezsr]

Hope the knife hasn't failed, but for $18 u really can't beat that. I have a bunch of condor knives that I'm very happy with. 👍

[@carllevingston6022]

I have had bad luck with two out of three Condor knives! Mostly QC issues. Condors are a very good budget knife to learn your knife skills. After that it can be your backup! Save up and check out some knives for a few dollars more. Thanks! Great video!

[@Bushradical]

Thanks Carl

[@redcanoe14]

I have one of these and have re-worked the edge and tweeked it a bit,,,it is a good knife, I make knives and have a variety of old and new knives. I carry my Condor a lot, it is nice to use and if it gets lost I have not lost a lot of money. The line on yours might be residual from the forging process (look at hand-forged axes they have some warts and wrinkles). Usually knives are polished up or bead-blasted (this one might not have been finished properly). 1065 Carbon Steel is a good, but not 'fancy' knife steel.

[@Bushradical]

I like the bang for the buck of the condor knives.

[@americanaxetoolco2076]

Back around 1975 a buddy and I were up around Traverse City, Nesson city to be exact deer hunting! He had a shotgun with slug in it and shot into a tree to check his accuracy. He wanted to look at the slug so he borrowed my brand new Buck Sheath knife and that thing snapped like a pretzel stick! Knowing now what I know about steel, it was either cast steel or a poor grade of steel! Never owned one since! I stick with my old Westerns!

[@Erebus.666.]

Wow, that was impressive. Would have put money on that failing.

[@awkward-stranger]

I think it was broken somehow, but how it got put back together could be a whole video in its self. Thanks Dave!

[@Bushradical]

Thanks James.

[@BaconNBeer]

For the price not that bad a buy. Use it around the shop or at a camp. Get something that has no questions for out in the field.

[@Shooter11B]

I bought an old Nepalese Kukri that had a forge crack in it that did not show up in any of the pictures on eBay. I was also pretty concerned about it so I broke out the old Dremel Tool and ground it out. Mainly so it would not foster deep rust. Fortunately it was a pretty shallow crack and I ended up creating a nice little fuller. The knife is still going strong today, chops like a dream.

[@Bushradical]

Must be a pretty common flaw. A couple other people have said they saw this kind of thing too.

[@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32]

It's a good sign when companies are willing to replace defective products, I am curious did they ask you to send it back to them so they could figure out what happened?

[@aaronnelson1099]

Put your back into it!! Word UP!! Hahha!! You stressed it to the point, she might break in the field now! See you in a week for a review! I mean a lip ripping session Dave! ~~~Fishradical~~~

[@Bushradical]

LOL. You have a way with words!

[@erutkowski55]

I've got a bushlore too, that does look alot like a fault, but it may just be the clear coat they pit on it? see if it comes off with paint thinner or some fine grit sand paper

[@Bushradical]

Its right in the steel. I bought it used and the guy who sold it to me "removed the coating" I bet he wanted to know if it was just in the clear coat too. I sharpened the blade and couldn't remove the lines where they cross through the going area. I contacted condor and they are sending me a new knife, even though I wasn't the original buyer.

[@gobangs1117]

Got heaps of Condors and never seen anything like it. Wonder about QC over there in El Salvador.

[@Bushradical]

New one for me too!

[@Druide-ie1pc]

It looks like, the hardeningline? Only the blade is hardened?

[@jackharrison1478]

Its cool that they sent you a new knife afterwards though.

[@Bushradical]

Pretty awesome customer service

[@James-ke5sx]

Whew! Had me nervous, mine is right now on a delivery truck out for delivery to me.

[@Bushradical]

right on. Good luck

[@ITSTotallyTubluar]

Looks like someone grinded the cutting edge lower

[@estima8tor1]

The blade on my Bushlore has microchipping all along the blade edge after doing some simple carving on a Cedar walking stick. Those little knobby knots on the surface of the Cedar were too much for Condor's 1075 steel with an apparent bad heat treatment.

[@Bushradical]

bad deal! I dinged my hudson bay knife bad trimming off small branches on a hemlock tree. Hemlock knots are THE hardest knots out there and they destroyed my blade.

[@Shaker4x4]

I've seen a couple of complaints regarding the blades on these knives folding back on themselves. It puts me right off buying them, however I really like their Duku, and Mini Duku Parang Machetes, just bought the mini, and it's a beast of a blade.

[@mtnman8876]

its not a guy on ebay, its condor, i had 2 condor hurons with forge lines in them, i think it will cause a crack to run off of it, also one of them had a piece broke off the handle and glued back on from the factory. both knives new when i got them.

[@Bushradical]

Good to know!

[@mtnman8876]

whats thier number? ive messaged them with to no avail

[@swnorcraft7971]

Its a line where the rust or corrosion ends. This knife has been left wet for a while.

[@Bushradical]

I t didn't appear to have ever been rusty though. ???

[@Autumnsoutdooradventues]

i seen 200$ knives not stand up to that test. nothing wrong with condor knives. i own 3 and very happy about the quality and the price.

[@Bushradical]

me too

[@billyprendergast6631]

Name and shame that guy on eBay that sold it to you.ARE you a fan of Condor knives,would you recommend them to a friend.

[@Bushradical]

Its been so long I can't look up who the seller was. Actually , I am a fan of Condor. They may have a big of quality control but they are affordable and solid for the money.

[@savagewolf1966]

Dave, If I were you I would contact the company ,take pics send them in,they should do something to make it right, quality issue on there production ,its a defect for sure.maybe they will send you a new knife.wouldnt hurt to try.good luck;)

[@Bushradical]

Not a bad idea. I think I'll get in touch with them. Thanks

[@savagewolf1966]

Bushradical ,no problem,Dave. let us know how it pans out.cheers.

[@heml0ck123]

I think it would be awesome of the company if they send you a new knife.... With that being said looks like 20 bucks well spent, I would have $20 worth of fun out of it just seeing how far I could push it before it did fail and I know thats what I would do if they sent me a new one and maybe do some positive videos about the little knife. I thought for sure it was going the fail during the test you put on it. anyway would make some good content for the channel. Im gonna sub and stay tuned.

[@Bushradical]

I've been dealing with them through email and its all settled.....I will do a video on that knife soon...so I won't spoil it. Thanks for the comment.

[@andrewhondo]

don't feel bad i bout my new and it had a ding the edge but it still worked fine but what i didn't like about my knife was the edge rolls easy and needs to be sharped more often then my cheap mora 511 and the spin didn't have great 90 but over all its a ok knife but i like my basic 4 inch better then the bush lore

[@Bushradical]

Right on. Thanks for the comment.

[@jessecampbell7432]

Great video

[@Bushradical]

Thanks Jesse.

[@journalofawimpyprepper4810]

You should contact Condor and see what they say about it. Send them a link.

[@Bushradical]

I'm in the process . They are a hard outfit to get ahold of so far.

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

one of my buddies on Instagram bought this knife and while doing a live chat to show off his knife he stuck it into a log when he pulled it out the tip was gone. lol condor returned his money. That Crack would make me very nervous. it did take some abuse but if I was you I would bring a back up.

[@Bushradical]

Yeah I sent condor a link to this vid with a run down of the issue...we'll see what they say.

[@AdventureTimeOutdoors]

Bushradical I should do the same with my hudson bay knife. I won it in a giveaway but it came brand new in the box and wrapped in plastic with dents in the edge and smeared epoxy all over the handle. I get that it is a budget knife but man sending things like that shows they just don't care. I will keep it and treat it like a project knife. but for my first condor... I don't think I would buy one! I think there are other better budget companies out there with much better QC. With a possible fault like in your knife that shouldn't have never hit the market. it may last forever but just visually that's a red flag. great video brother

[@Bushradical]

Thanks ATO. I've heard several times that Condor's QC is lacking. My Hudson bay and my Woodlawn have been the best of knives, but this bush lore , with the big line running through it just goes to prove the point about their questionable QC. I'll make sure Condor is fully aware of the issue and we'll see what they do. I already sent them a link to this vid.

[@LetoAt77]

It looks like delamination in the original bar stock. Glad Condor replaced it for you.

[@Bushradical]

They are awesome for customer service.

[@lordnebo]

love my bushlore best knife for the money

[@Bushradical]

Right on

[@420o]

ima call 991 for knife abuse XD

[@LarsRibe]

Hmmm.. looks odd. I hope a blacksmith will comment on this. Besides that, It sure loooks like a very usable knife! Still getting that Hudson Bay by the way, but I'll have to get a new sleeping bag first. Old one failed.

[@Bushradical]

Hey Lars! pretty weird eh? I do like the knife. Been using it ever since. so far so good. Have you ever checked out the British Military bags. Cheap and warm. Pretty heavy though. They are rated for -20 F......so about +20 you should be fine LOL.

[@LarsRibe]

Got a Carinthia 4 on the way. Got it very cheap from a young woman who used it twice and decided that it wasn't her thing.. Guess if the sleeping bag is good enough for the german army, I can live with it. Comfort limit -15 degrees celcius. Extreem -30

[@Bushradical]

Not familiar with that one. I'll check it out.

[@johnmcdowell5990]

im a fan of condor.

[@Bushradical]

Me too. I like what they do.

[@woodlandbiker]

Whenever if tested anything by putting force on it to see if it's strong enough I end up with the though has what I've done weakened it.

[@Bushradical]

? maybe

[@LCO213]

It looks like the stock was welded together before being ground.

[@Bushradical]

Doesn't look right does it, LOL

[@LCO213]

yeah, the side @1:09 shows a clear patina differential along the welding line. I used to machine and restore camshafts for cars, and we would sometimes spray weld parts and machine them back down to specs. The strength of the weld was never an issue, but it often left obvious visual cues like this. It looks like a peculiar lamination line, but the patina is a dead giveaway. A knife should never be welded together though...something is not right here.

[@MTwoodsrunner]

Definitely looked suspect...but as you say perhaps cosmetic...hairline fractures usually go south pretty quick...later Dave...woods

[@Bushradical]

It aint broke yet......but it sure doesn't look right.

[@terocool7625]

I might get the rodan its more my style

[@WA8QFE]

I think I'd unload it first sight ! Lee, Indianapolis

[@Bushradical]

Stay tuned....there is more on this knife.

[@gunnerhusnian4375]

I've never seen anything like that. this is coolkid, I changed my name

[@Bushradical]

Hay coolk......I mean AB! Good to see you! I like the name. So, you've never seen anything like this either huh? I haven't broke it yet.

[@joekelly9369]

These are decent knives , if you was intent on bending a 500 quid knife im sure itd happen

[@Bushradical]

Yeah, I just wanted to see if it would break....I'm sure I could have bent it or maybe broke it, but it wasn't just going to "let" me do it.

[@BrodyToYou]

I've had a mora knife that had an imperfection like what you've dealt with in your condor, only mine had the imperfection closer to the tip of the blade. It was an $11 knife so I put a beating on it the way you did and it held up--didn't break and it's as sharp as it's ever been.

[@Bushradical]

very interesting....I wonder what does that? Its the only one Ive seen like that but I guess knives just turn out like that from time to time. Thanks for the info EB!

[@maisetas]

edge is very weak, also a soft blade. blsde edge gets easily destroyed after batoning couple of logs. i do like it's design though

[@Bushradical]

I love the shape too. It is pretty soft steel.

[@jamesaritchie1]

That's a knife that should be sent back to Condor. That said, anyone who beats a knife with a club deserves a broken knife, and should never again be allowed to own anything more than a butter knife.

[@Bushradical]

lol.........the battening thing.........totally agree

[@18echo]

Whats the knife that is with the hatchet/ tomahawk at the beginning of the video ?

[@Bushradical]

A cut down Old Hickory knife and a Vaughan Framing hatchet......You could buy them both for about $30.

[@18echo]

Bushradical thanks 🙏🏼 for taking your time to answer , it looks awesome , I guess I will be visiting my local Walmart or hardware store as soon as the Curfew is lifted , thanks again and be safe .

[@jessecampbell7432]

Any update on the knife?

[@Bushradical]

Nothing to mention really

[@jessecampbell7432]

Bushradical sweet, I recently purchased a Bushlore and am going to give it a go this summer!

[@Bushradical]

I bet you'll like it.

[@hanikaram3351]

BATON WITH IT MIGHT BRAKE

[@cleamilner6894]

Looks counterfeit

[@linklesstennessee2078]

Lol this ain't got nothing to do with knife but I ordered a polish lavu 2 man off e bay brand new $17.00 when I clicked the buy button and used my card the total was $40.00 I said what in the world got to. Looking I'd ordered that darn thing from Poland lol about 2 months to get to customs in us then about a week I had it but it was good that lavu had been everywhere in Poland it had polish stamps all over the box lol my last encounter with e bay

[@Bushradical]

you just never know with eBay......

[@Standswithabeer]

gotta say...have been buying on eBay for quite some time now. I have discovered that one must-must-read the description very carefully. I had 2 disputes over items, and eBay jumped in like gangbusters to fix it, because the sellers improperly described the items & in the second case , omitted some info. In my case, going on 8 years now--they have been good. Lately though, they have become much like a chinese retail store. Read the fine print & buy with confidence.

[@geneschuchard1217]

Looks like just mill scale to me.

[@Bushradical]

It goes all the way around the blade.

[@Bushradical]

Actually, I wouldn't know a mill scale from nothin...but where the line crosses the ground edge its actually a fissure into the steel ( both sides). I'm working with Condor right now.....I'll bring you guy up to date as to what they are gonna say.

[@robbabcock_]

It looks like flash, not a crack. But I'm only 1 minute into the video...we'll see!

[@Bushradical]

I don't know much of anything about forged metal. It didn't look right , but thats about all I could tell, LOL.

[@rogeriosartori555]

Really?! well I'll try to destroy my kabar kb2... Bought 10 tons of TNT

[@Bushradical]

People sure love their K bars. Ive never owned one but I should pick one up just to try one out.

[@marklinker7065]

I have one thats ugly

[@billyprendergast6631]

Why did you sell a faulty knife to someone else.

[@Bushradical]

? what do you mean

[@Bushradical]

"I' bought this knife.

[@paulie4x1]

Say Heah Dave, You did good. But regardless, I would send it back. Regardless of your cost. Send it back. I know exactly your fear. It might of withstood the test. But, with Murphy's Law, Just when you need it in a emergency situation. Murphy's Head might pop up.,,.p

[@Bushradical]

search some of my vids and you'll see I did a fallow up. I contacted Condor and they sent me a new knife.

[@Bushradical]

Thanks for the comment.

[@paulie4x1]

Bushradical Y W. You did good.,,.p

[@billyprendergast6631]

CHRIS Wilkes said that he sold a faulty knife to a sucker on eBay.

[@Bushradical]

Oh!

[@hanikaram3351]

DON'T LOOK RIGHT

[@koglau]

Un bodrio el vídeo, fome, malo, aburrido. No se qué chucha trato de hacer.