Breaking Down + Reacting to the Arlecchino Trailer [Reacts with Aster]

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@Zeke1460
@Zeke1460 25 күн бұрын
Arlecchino is not an unfeeling person at all. She intentionally portrays herself that way to distance herself from her “mother” Crucabena. Crucabena was a monster who pretended to care about the kids but in reality didn’t care about them even the slightest bit. Meanwhile Arlecchino pretends to be an unfeeling father but she genuinely cares about the children. And that’s obvious in how she treats them. She tells Freminet the truth about his mother even though it serves her no benefit. She just wanted him to make sure he knew he was loved. She saves Lynette from the human traffickers and is angry enough at them to kill them. And she stops Lyney from using a delusion since she considers it too dangerous for him. And now she kills the fake philanthropist to avenge her fatally wounded child. After which she mourns her. That’s not sternness. That’s genuine kindness. She’s an empathetic person despite acting like she isn’t. So I hardcore disagree with your point about her being emotionless. Also in all the animations, the falling rain is a representation of her tears. She cried when her sister/best friend Clervie died. And she cried when her “daughter” died. I would not call her cruel at all. That’s the exact opposite of how I see her. HARD disagree. Cruelty implies taking joy in causing suffering or not caring that she causes suffering. And from what we’ve seen, she cares A LOT about lessening the suffering of others. Which is why she uses the fake philanthropist’s money to adopt more kids. But yeah she’s like 30 at the oldest. Also this idea of her being a “good” or “bad” person is sort of irrelevant. She’s a product of her environment. She’s pretty messed up herself because of what happened to her in the past. And she acts in pretty much the only way she knows that is different from her predecessor. Which is still messed up. She’s trying her best to be a parent in the messed up way that is the only thing she knows. She thinks she’s doing a good thing for her kids by being strict and cold and basically the opposite of her “mother” and seems like she’s slowly starting to realize that her own methods have been harmful as well. Which she kind of aknowledges during fontaine’s story where she tells the traveler that she wishes her kids would rely on her more.
@Shiro-the-Hero
@Shiro-the-Hero 24 күн бұрын
I 100% agree with all of this.
@notsoptimistic
@notsoptimistic 24 күн бұрын
damn you put what I was thinking into words! in what way arlecchino is emotionless? from what we've seen so far all she does is for her children. she just acts cold as a facade. she loves and cares for them as much.
@seanknight4513
@seanknight4513 24 күн бұрын
As a former coach it’s what we always called tough love. (I’m a big pushover as a real dad 😂) When the game is hard, preparation is harder because if they fail you have let them down. and when the outcome is actual life and death you cannot allow failure as it results in your Child dying. And no parent wants to outlive their child.
@thegirlwhobossed
@thegirlwhobossed 24 күн бұрын
!!! So true.
@kyoga5714
@kyoga5714 22 күн бұрын
thank you for having a complex persperctive on a female character in this community
@funnivamp55
@funnivamp55 25 күн бұрын
Some notes. Clervie is the biological daughter of Crucabena. The EN translation kinda missed out on this. In the CN translation, Arlecchino says "Do biological daughters and their mothers also fights?" Towards Clervie. And we can see how similar both Crucabena and Clervie looked so it's even worse knowing she literally involved her own daughter into the battle royale and got her killed yet didn't even care for losing her
@mikonyx7712
@mikonyx7712 25 күн бұрын
The way I see it is Arlecchino is trying to desperately escape the fate that was brought upon her by the previous director. I also love the character design, the mainly monochromatic color scheme of black,gray, and white works very well to set her up as cold, and emotionless. However, there are also hints of intense, crimson red. Red being very often associated with very strong emotions, such as love, or anger, which could point to her being only seemingly emotionless, while in reality, shes repressing very strong emotions.
@MissusFail
@MissusFail 25 күн бұрын
Good points. I want to see Arlecchino as someone desperately trying to pass the torch to someone else and cease to exist or something (Also the fact every other harbinger sees her as someone who would betray the tsarisa means she has no strings attached to the Fatui whatsoever and is only there probably as punishment for killing the previous Knave.). She doesn't seem to have much that she personally wants to do. She killed the previous Knave to avenge the dead children / quell her anger and repressed emotions. As a kid she looked pretty sad / depressed / listless. I'm so hyped to learn more about her and hopefully Hoyo doesn't leave ANY blank spots in her lore. I couldn't really handle cliffhangers for her 2nd story quest god knows when.
@GanjaCree
@GanjaCree 25 күн бұрын
Arlecchino is a morally grey character which is why she is so interesting and why the community is so fascinated by her. She does horrible things but underneath she cares a lot more about the children than “Mother”. She can’t dismantle the system already put in place but since she inherited it, she has enough control to make it a lot better than what it was. She makes changes on what she can control. She can’t stop the children in the House from becoming soldiers but she can make parts of their lives more enjoyable.
@kylerclarke2689
@kylerclarke2689 25 күн бұрын
Hoyo makes every playable "villain" morally grey because a real villain would be too controversial. Every bad guy that they sell has to be redeemable or secretly caring. It's not interesting, it's a cop-out that they've done over and over.
@Faron93
@Faron93 25 күн бұрын
@@kylerclarke2689 By "villain" you mean antagonist, correct?
@walnut2446
@walnut2446 25 күн бұрын
@@kylerclarke2689There are CCP regulated restrictions on games about morality that makes it impossible for true villains to become playable so “morally-grey” characters is as far as Hoyo probably can stretch it tbf
@kylerclarke2689
@kylerclarke2689 25 күн бұрын
That's really interesting. I didn't know that
@samuelchensantoso9677
@samuelchensantoso9677 24 күн бұрын
I don't think She and Scara is redeemable at all, They have different side yes, not just some boring "Oh, I aM eViL aNd tHaTs mY pErSoNaLiTy, iN fAcT tHaTs mY oNlY pErSoNaLiTy" side, that's such a boring overrated and uncreative troupe for awhile now ​@@kylerclarke2689
@jaychirps
@jaychirps 25 күн бұрын
The blonde haired girl with the bulle fruit in her hair is dead. You can see a sword with a hair tie hanging off the hilt of a sword just before Arlecchino enters the building to fight 'Mother'.
@johnny_boi5456
@johnny_boi5456 25 күн бұрын
4:11
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 24 күн бұрын
Yes, clearly representative of a grave marker. It seems not many children of age survived that little...cleansing.
@mattmark94
@mattmark94 25 күн бұрын
I don't think she has a defeatist mindset. If that was the case she wouldn't have tried to stop the prophecy of Fontaine amd she wouldn't have got that angry with Furina for nothing about it. I think she truly believes she is giving her children the best life they could possibly have. Arlecchino is a very pragmatic woman, she uses the resources of the Fatui to save and raise orphans knowning full well that the price to pay is training them to be spies and soldiers. With this system they can have at least a happy childhood and a decent parental figure, things they wouldn't have otherwise.
@user-biscut
@user-biscut 25 күн бұрын
Considering that Lyney and Lynette met the one good magician (the one that was framed) 10 years ago, while Arlecchino was a Harbinger... it's been a minimum of 10 years since her promotion of Harbinger.
@nyxsiren8403
@nyxsiren8403 25 күн бұрын
House of the Hearth has a cult like mentality, Arlecchino herself was groomed into it, it's almost impossible for her to break that cycle. She's still trying her best to give her kids a place they can call home. Just like other harbingers, she doesn't care about being good person, she has her own convictions that's what makes her such a complex and interesting character.
@_dragonflies_
@_dragonflies_ 25 күн бұрын
Hm. Let's also not forget that Arlecchino cannot simply turn the House of the Hearth into an actually good or even decent orphanage. The children there will always be treated as soldiers, for that is their purpose as a Fatui organisation. Arlecchino can either leave the orphanage completely, while the children will be left to whomever is appointed as "King" next. The children will still be treated the same or even worse. Or she can try to cut off the Orphanage from the Fatui. And fail. Because let's be real: I doubt the Fatui are going to be very agreeable. Again, this is just something I wanted to add. I'm not trying to suggest this makes her a better person/parent, just pointing out that she doesn't have that many options regarding the child soldier thing
@ChillwithAster
@ChillwithAster 25 күн бұрын
This I agree with. She's operating in such a very unfavorable situation that she's just another cog in the machine
@rolo1178
@rolo1178 25 күн бұрын
These are my exact thoughts as well, and why I think Arlecchino being called a "bad parent" by the masses makes no sense in the first place. She is not grooming those kids into soldiers because she wants to. She HAS to. There is no personal benefit gained by her by doing this. The Tsaritsa only made her the Knave because her powers were recognized, and well...she killed the other Knave. (plus the fact that all other kids in the house were likely too young for one of them to take over, so it was really only her). Killing a harbinger is a very serious crime I'm sure, serious enough to warrant life in jail. However, she was pardoned and placed back into the system of the orphanage, but this time as a Director who can actually make a change. What she CANNOT do however is stop taking in children. That's the purpose of the organization. The only thing she can do as the Director is ensure that these kids live a somewhat good life until they are sent on missions. When talking about Arlecchino's morality and ideals, it has EVERYTHING to do with how she raises the children and nothing to do with the fact that they MUST eventually become soldiers. Creating child soldiers is morally wrong, but it is not the morality of Arlecchino that perpetuates this. It is the morality of the Fatui as an organization. Also of course the way she treats criminals is important, but that's another aspect of her character. She purposefully acts cold towards them because they need to be toughened for the unfortunate future that awaits everyone. Also because she doesn't want to fake kindness like "Mother" did. As for why she intends to make Lyney "King", it's probably because her purpose as a harbinger is fulfilled after she got the Hydro Gnosis, so it's time for her to step down. Whatever she proposed to the trio that made them disagree with her is something that I'm very excited to see in 4.6. See how Lyney intends them to be a "real family"
@charactername111
@charactername111 25 күн бұрын
lets also not forget the funding needed to run an orphanage. according to the video, even the fatui doesnt give her enough funds to house as many children as she'd like.
@historicflame972
@historicflame972 25 күн бұрын
@@charactername111CLEARLY Liyue is at fault for this The country will collapse in 30 days
@GhostedbyHer
@GhostedbyHer 25 күн бұрын
I think some people confuse old knave to new one and is very adamant about Arlecchino being the absolute terrible. This is what makes me mad
@weird_mango42
@weird_mango42 25 күн бұрын
If you think about it, Arlecchino is probably the first playable character to not be comply trusted by the Traveller. Childe and Wanderer warm dup to us and are basically allies now, but we can still see that the traveller is still weary of Arlecchino. Of course, this could all shine by her story quest
@Roihclem871
@Roihclem871 25 күн бұрын
Crazy she is a boss battle and playable
@kacperwoch4368
@kacperwoch4368 25 күн бұрын
@@Roihclem871 Same as Tartaglia, same as Scara, same as Ei.
@roma_romanee-conti
@roma_romanee-conti 25 күн бұрын
Please play the game All the harbingers so far are like this
@historicflame972
@historicflame972 25 күн бұрын
You seem to be forgetting that for Scara it was on sight and we still kinda don't care for him
@xdarkxskullzx
@xdarkxskullzx 25 күн бұрын
@@historicflame972I wouldn’t really say we don’t care for him
@rajaryan-fe1oy
@rajaryan-fe1oy 25 күн бұрын
“Someone who was born in the system", is a perfect way to describe it in my opinion. When she was given her position Jester said that this title and it's “history" of bloodshed is what she's inhereting, when you look at it it's s the Futui that actually run the orphanage, they want to raise soldiers for themselves, and in that way Armchino kind of has to comply with them, that is a system that operated by something much bugger than herself, and in my opinion she's trying to do what's best with it itself. In the 4.6 version trailer [SPOILERS OFC] we can see her fight the children while they try to convince her to be a family, who knows what she decides on in the end but it'll be really intresting to see what that decission ultimately leads to.
@jungwenwin
@jungwenwin 24 күн бұрын
Some people are theorizing that the Fatui have ordered that all children of the House must partake in a very risky mission and that Arlecchino will be testing Lyney (hence the boss battle) as the next 'king' of the House to see if he is just a follower of the Fatui or a fit familly leader for all the kids. I guess that since she's a Harbinger she can't say no to Pierro and the Tsaritsa's orders, so she wants Lyney to fight her and stop her from endangering the kids
@Grafii2198
@Grafii2198 25 күн бұрын
I think her curse is literally killing her, she like has limited time, probably much but still limited. I think the scene with "Mother" when she was talking about flowers was directed at her directly, just like she should have thrown away flowers that were going to wilt away, she too should have get rid of Arlecchino as she too is "withering" away.
@ChillwithAster
@ChillwithAster 25 күн бұрын
I also think that's why she's training the children so hard, because she's running out of time
@Grafii2198
@Grafii2198 25 күн бұрын
@@ChillwithAster Also it seems that curse spreads when she gets emotional, first time we saw it spreading was when her spider died, then second time when she was almost defeated and then she became this strict, emotionless "Father" and it seams to not spread anymore. Perhaps that's why the girl that Freminet is hiding is such a big deal for her as she knows she might get emotional, which spreads her curse. This also may sounds stupid but the tile of "Father" could also mean that she will leave them one day, she might as well be immortal but if that curse spreads too much, she would be gone so no one can notice when that happens as it would be really sudden.
@eclipse3853
@eclipse3853 25 күн бұрын
the scene where the previous director talks about the flower Wilting is directed towards Clervie, who was in fact her own biological daughter. Clervie's necklace is in the shape of that flower too. "Mother" had hoped that her own daughter would be the strongest and become king, but what i think is the case is that Clervie was too kind hearted to fight and instead "threw" herself on Arlecchino's blade, killing herself so that arlecchino could life and become king. Which is why she said "I'm sorry and thank you" She is sorry for leaving arlecchino, not being able to visit Snezchnaja with her and putting this burden uppon her, but thanking her for the time they spend together.
@firby7341
@firby7341 25 күн бұрын
@@eclipse3853 i dont even think it was arle's blade. at 12:25 you can see arle still holding her sword, the blade NOT being full of blood. i think it clervies own sword.
@Grafii2198
@Grafii2198 25 күн бұрын
​@@eclipse3853Well it still fits the narrative of her addressing it to Arle. Mother wanted her daughter to win but instead she died to someone cursed, and thus if she got rid of her then her daughter would win. I guess there is multiple ways of interpreting that scene and all of them could be right. The whole orphanage seems to be like a scene play, after all they all talk with some poetic lines and their roles are in quotation marks, something that always happens in Genshin dialogue.
@harmonialarts
@harmonialarts 25 күн бұрын
I don't really see Peruere/Arlecchino as a 'wolf in sheep's clothing' but as a 'sheep in wolf's clothing'. The previous knave is the former imo. A cruel person pretending to be kind. Arlecchino strikes me as someone who doesn't do what she deems as unecessary things. I call her a sheep because in the end she followed the fatui rather than going/lashing out against them. I say she's wearing wolf's clothing because she's a harbinger who are at the very top of the organization. Leaders of the pack. Arlecchino is a good person who was raised to become another cog in the machine and while she did do some things to change how things worked, in the end the machine still produced the same output. She creates necessary evil. A sheep dressed as and following the pack of wolves.
@soulstealer5625
@soulstealer5625 25 күн бұрын
Ill have to see her story quest to discover why she ultimately preserves the status quo even with positive revisions.
@prasselboll
@prasselboll 24 күн бұрын
This is what I think as well.
@VideoGamer8
@VideoGamer8 25 күн бұрын
About your question about if she sees them as people or if they see themselves as people, in frem's lore she tells them to never put the mission above themselves and gives them the freedom to pursue whatever they would like. So the answer if yes, they see themselves as people and individuals which arle encourages
@KillerBlaze
@KillerBlaze 18 күн бұрын
Freminet is a perfect character to look at this through too, because when he says it, he’s not singing her praises. Given how he was taught and used by the previous knave, he sees Arlecchino raising them to be independent as a burden because it’s easier to be a tool. So when he talks about father raising them to care for themselves and be independent, it’s almost begrudgingly
@sfoanna
@sfoanna 25 күн бұрын
I’m feeling like there are a lot of parallels with Jeht and the Tanit and Babel. Babel mothered Jeht in a ploy to gain her unfailing loyalty and groom her to be her violent executioner doing all of her dirty work in order to ascend to power. As we accompany Jeht and fight alongside her, we never see her as a villain per se, but her violence and the trauma and thirst for vengeance that drive her is truly disturbing. Both Jeht and Arlecchino become leaders in their own right and seem to use their positions to seek vengeance and retribution. I’m really curious to see what Arlecchino’s story quest will reveal about how she turned out as a leader to her “children” and I wonder if we’ll see what happens with Jeht.
@Boomdizzle99
@Boomdizzle99 25 күн бұрын
oh wow!!!! I dont think ive seen anyone else make this connection like this! Wonderful observation! She really is alot like jeht....different circumstances yet they approach things in a very similar way. Both value loyalty very highly and any betrayel is met with a very bad end! They both were unable to change their fates....
@historicflame972
@historicflame972 25 күн бұрын
both also have the highest onscreen kill counts excluding traveler
@inoushii
@inoushii 24 күн бұрын
I rarely comment on videos, but I've seen a lot of reactions to this animated short, and let me say: it's so refreshing to see someone who isn't media illiterate and can actually recall more than 5 seconds back. So many people don't understand the name reveal or the fact that the kids has to fight, and that's why Clervie and Peruere (Arlecchino) were fighting - regardless of Clervie unaliving herself for Peruere or not. Or the fact the "Mother" was a harbinger. I feel like that has been established for a LONG time - i could be wrong there though. Great video, would watch again 👏
@historicflame972
@historicflame972 25 күн бұрын
Considering her trailer and the web events Arle may have the third highest onscreen kill count only beaten out by Jeht and the Traveler
@SabeehaFarheen
@SabeehaFarheen 24 күн бұрын
Watch as her demo blows that out of proportion
@WitchesAndRayGuns
@WitchesAndRayGuns 24 күн бұрын
The animated short IS an official video, not fan-made. It's also not from the Hoyo animation team. It's actually from Ufotable and could be said to be the first output of the Genshin Anime project.
@franklinfernandes5593
@franklinfernandes5593 25 күн бұрын
Ah! Konoha can send children to fight and die, but a "Father" can't? God forbid woman have hobbies
@user-biscut
@user-biscut 25 күн бұрын
Did you see the Arlecchino web promotion? (The one with the Treasure Horders.) It's fully voice acted and the art style is really good for the atmosphere they were going for. 👌✨️
@trickthemisfit3256
@trickthemisfit3256 25 күн бұрын
First, red head girl is dead... apparently, this previous harbinger seems to attempt to raise a super soldier. And due to the storybook openning, she only needs one (picture says it all). Second, I feel that we'll get an event similar to the penguin boy/prince event, but the red head girl is the main topic.
@Haskaraja7
@Haskaraja7 24 күн бұрын
well all know arlechhino is not great parent but, she does care about her children and also in animated short she said she will be strict and unfeeling father. because in animated short we can see her curse is connected to feelings ( maybe her sorrow ?) therefore she can not feel anything more like she shouldn't if she does her curse will grow faster if im right.
@maxwellentertainment914
@maxwellentertainment914 25 күн бұрын
Arlecchino was forced into the harbringer role, else they just execute her and send in another "mother"
@ProfIdiotKuro
@ProfIdiotKuro 25 күн бұрын
I agree with mostly everything you say. I disagree on the fact that she views her children as tools, she does see them as her actual children and people. But I feel like you have to see it through how she likely sees it. She was groomed into thinking murdering your adoptive family was okay. Yes she doesn't treat her family well, but unlike Crucabena/"Mother"/The Previous Knave where she only saw the children as tools to make one tool the strongest that she can use and abuse to her hearts content, Peruere/Arlecchino sees what she does as genuine love and affection. She does not wish to be like her "Mother" and is striving to be different, and she's very better in my opinion given she does love and care for her children. I also don't think it's abuse in the strict sense, it's not good what she's having them do. But when most people(or at least when I think of abuse) think of abuse they think of causing intended harm to someone, or doing something with the intent to hurt/malicious intent when that's not all abuse is. I'm not exactly qualified to talk about in depth about what she does and if or isn't actual abuse(because she doesn't mistreat them exactly, and she likely thinks she's not even hurting them at all so it's very complicated in my opinion and I don't think I can even explain it). Arlecchino doesn't do what she does to hurt or harm her children, she probably believes she is giving a tough form of love. Which makes her more complex, because although she does evil things, she does care. She will do anything for her family and to make sure children are safe. Arlecchino isn't a good parent, let alone a good person. Also I feel like we need to remember that the House of the Hearth is a Fatui owned orphanage. Arlecchino can't exactly change everything about it given the Fatui use it, and it has likely been used by them for centuries to raise orphans up as child soldiers for the Fatui. It's deeply rooted, so she can't uproot everything at once without getting the attention of Pierro and the Tsaritsa. She can't change everything without cutting it off from the Fatui and endangering the House. So while yes she is very militaristic in her views, she is doing her best to make it so no one has to murder each other and make sure they do love and care for each other like family, where as with Crucabena she made them think they were replaceable tools whose only use was to do missions. It doesn't excuse what she does at all as what she does is horrible and is not what children should grow up thinking what they think in the House, but they do view themselves as people and apart of a family it seems whilst being seen like they are a family by Arlecchino. What she does is still horrible, there's no excusing that because at the end of the day she still sends them out on missions knowing they might not survive or make it back and live much longer. She's a decent parental figure given all of her trauma, all the abuse she's faced and all the grooming she's faced as a young girl. But she's a horrible person given all the crimes she commits, and all the murder she's more than willing to do for the sake of her children. At the end of the day, the children grow up knowing they're loved and cared for and have a family to return to. Despite all of the flaws the current House of the Hearth has(which is a lot), they at least can see each other as a family with no grooming into thinking they're replaceable. Which is far better than what Crucabena would have taught them had Peruere/Arlecchino not killed her. Other than that I mostly agree and have nothing else to really majorly disagree with.
@Blade393
@Blade393 25 күн бұрын
Probably in the previous house of the heart they meant to create a new harbinger, a super soldier that will be obedient and strong, that's what in my opinion the mother was referring when she said "let your mother guide you to become a great king". The king is probably the harbinger, that's why they need only one of the child in the house. In fact we know that arlecchino wants to make liney his successor and in the 4.6 trailer she says that wants him to be the next "king"
@historicflame972
@historicflame972 25 күн бұрын
It's implied they actually do this enmasse in various different orphanages, and the products are the Fatui Operatives we encounter
@PGM991
@PGM991 25 күн бұрын
she give those kids a place where they 'belong' or a place where they're existence have a meaning, a purpose, a place where they're not just a side way pebble. a place to sleep, a food to fill, and purpose of living.
@n.s.3609
@n.s.3609 23 күн бұрын
Yes. She makes them rely on her, makes them feel that they "'owe" her something so they can go on suicide missions to "pay her back". She's a very good manipulator, who uses all tools (children) as her disposal.
@yourname4817
@yourname4817 25 күн бұрын
I think Anti-hero is a good way to describe her. I don’t think Arlecchino is “bad”, nor do I think she is “good”, I do believe she cares about her kids and I think she is doing the best she can in her position as the Knave. The House of the Hearth, and its function of taking in orphans and training them to be soldiers, is going to exist with or without Arlecchino. It is a Fatui institution after all, and the greater organization isn’t going to let her, or anyone else, just change it into a regular orphanage. Could there be a better way to run the House, while still maintaining its function? Maybe? But either way, its function clearly has to remain, so no matter how it’s run, it will always involve child endangerment. So all that Arlecchino, and whoever comes after her, can do is mitigate that danger/abuse.
@bootay2835
@bootay2835 25 күн бұрын
I think the Hearth Dottore and the plot to turn wanderer into a god are all connected to create soldiers capable to survive in the abyss to fight it, each fatui seems to be involved in the process of making super soldiers
@themasterdou
@themasterdou 25 күн бұрын
I think the age gap between Arle and Freminet should be around 10 to 12 years. When we see Arle fighting against the previous Knave she looks something around 14 to 16 years, we know Freminet's mother easily led him by his hand to the "House", so I assume he was around 5 to 6 years old at the time, adding 10-12 years (maybe 2 years with Freminet living in the house under the previous knave care and 10 years of Peruere being the new knave) to this event we would have current Arlecchino with something around her middle 20's and Freminet around his 16-18 years old, which would match he's appearance in-game. I also think the harbingers present at the Knave ceremony must have been only the ones who were available since Dottore was not around and he was a fatui before Scara if I'm not mistaken.
@Maethendias
@Maethendias 25 күн бұрын
everyone being hyped for the knave meanwhile me, looking at cyno: also everyone being "child soldiers child soldiers"... have yall forgotten Yoimiya?
@ivangalv
@ivangalv 25 күн бұрын
I like to think that Arlecchino is helping the children by teaching them to fight and survive in a world that she thinks is cruel to those abandoned by society aka children without homes or parents. She maintains the orphanage so she can save more children from the streets and at the same time in her way, teaching them to survive, but yes is not a good method either
@redlox2
@redlox2 25 күн бұрын
I now the Knave is pretty immoral but its arguable if any of the Fatui Harbingers could be considered 'good' depending from your point of view. chaos is part of the job heck even Childe nearly caused Liyue to be destroyed just to draw out Morax due to it being his job.
@n.s.3609
@n.s.3609 23 күн бұрын
Lol, none of Harbingers (or Fatui) is "good". They happily torture and kill innocent people because their Archon is a delusional b1tch.
@ViralwingX
@ViralwingX 23 күн бұрын
The Fatui follow a very interesting philosophy. Namely the Ends Justify the Means Mentally. If all of Teyvat benefits from whatever the Cryo Archon is planning as Both Childe and Arlecchino point out to us. The few loses that happen now. Are considered understandable and justifyable. Now that still makes them bad people. But thier overall goals are supposedly going to help the entirety of Teyvat. Similar to Raiden's Ideal if Eternity. If she stays the path all of Inazuma would stay safe underneath her protection. That single minded focus was what ended up being her undoing. Although the biggest question is what exactly is the Fatui planning? Everything that Fatui have been doing have to amount to something. And their reasonings for doing so have to be really important.
@n.s.3609
@n.s.3609 23 күн бұрын
@@ViralwingX Ei is cowardly shut in who let Fatui run rampant in her country. She knew her people were being hurt and didn't do anything about it. Yes, in war atrocities happen. In a WAR. Did I miss the moment when all nations in Teyvat went to a war with Celestia? Tsarica kills (via Fatui) innocent people, tortures children (Arleccino IS GIVING CHILDREN TO DOTTORE FOR EXPERIMENTS) and worse. All of it, so far, is only for Tsarica's gain - I remember it was stated that this plan will benefit her, no the whole Teyvat. The only interesting thing about Fatui is why no other nation kills them on spot, knowing how much harm do they bring. I still we could hunt down Arleccino for sports like we did with Seniora.
@vonrich2614
@vonrich2614 24 күн бұрын
She is tired. She probably didn't want this, but her crimes were waived by her becoming the knave. She probably just wanted to kill "mother" and go on with life
@SabeehaFarheen
@SabeehaFarheen 24 күн бұрын
And if she didn't accept it someone else would have taken over the orphanage who would've continued what "mother" did so I guess she probably thought better me than someone else to lead the orphanage
@juanmarine6566
@juanmarine6566 25 күн бұрын
The thing I find facinating is that even if we have seen two of her sides (in the archon quest and in the her backstory) we still havent seen the side that childe and wanderer speak of, and also the parts we have seen of the trailer show looks like a different part of her at all, the layers this character has are increíble
@Hy-BridAbroad
@Hy-BridAbroad 24 күн бұрын
Kind of? I mean, before she became a Harbinger she did turn on her mother, who was a harbinger, and in turn go against the Fatui. Childe shouldn't have been around for that, but Scara was. Maybe his view of her comes from that and the other Harbingers feel like they can't trust her because she could do that to one of them at some point? Idk, just spitballing
@shinkamui
@shinkamui 25 күн бұрын
another thing about the ammount of harbingers present- maybe it's not only that some of them had better things to do, but maybe some of them might have disagreed with arlecchino's rising up to harbinger on the grounds that surely crucabena had allies and affinities within the harbingers that wouldn't have been happy to welcome her killer in there
@davidjohnson8273
@davidjohnson8273 25 күн бұрын
If she was meant to be a complex character then they wouldn't show EVERY SINGLE action she takes to be selfless and justified. I can't think of any cruel action. Even when she kills "bad people" she does it quickly. 100% Sweetie.
@lathamtk
@lathamtk 25 күн бұрын
15:20 I'm pretty sure the other harbingers were just not present, not not recruited yet. Why? It was Dottore who manipulated and drove Scaramouche into his 3rd (and final) breakdown, making him go mad in the process. IIRC Scara finds this out when we enter the Iriminsul network in the Sumeru quest and he "erases" himself. BTW that doesn't mean she was the last one to join the Fatui (I think the newest member was Tartaglia?), I just mean the others, already recruited ones (however many of them there were), were just not present...
@jellygish2007
@jellygish2007 24 күн бұрын
yes yesss YESSSSS “alrecchino is a terrible evil person and doesn’t care forthe child of the hearth” is just as miss characterized as “alrecchino is a good person and is a good parent” in my opinion
@penkwinn
@penkwinn 24 күн бұрын
remember she's being assigned as the fouth harbinger at a very young age, she is simply a cog in the machine that have to obey the organization, she doesn't have a choice to stop the children from the missions
@Luna04567
@Luna04567 24 күн бұрын
I was crying during the animated short so much
@KillerBlaze
@KillerBlaze 18 күн бұрын
I think one thing people don’t think about is that with or without Arlecchino, the house of the hearth will still exist. All she can really do is send kids on espionage missions before the other harbingers can get to them. Notice any mission we see her send the children on are pretty chill/ safe intel gathering missions. When they do die or get hurt, it’s when they bite off more than they can chew (as is implied by her teaser when she says “recklessness leads to failure and the girl seems to be apologizing for getting carried away after seeing the patients). She was dealt an awful hand and if she folds, she can be replaced. Likely by another Crucabena (the old knave). She has no choice but to serve the Fatui and minimize the amount of harm that comes to the children by teaching them to be strong and independent and to think for themselves (As Trofinn from the aranara quest and Freminet explains)
@sylvarogre5469
@sylvarogre5469 24 күн бұрын
I believe, as Tolkien did, that no one is intrinsically evil. No matter how corrupted one becomes, they are not beyond sympathy, compassion, mercy, repentance, forgiveness, and redemption.
@1Promethus
@1Promethus 25 күн бұрын
I think that the former head of house of hearth is our missing 10th harbinger
@1Promethus
@1Promethus 25 күн бұрын
Please let me know if you think this could be the answer?
@Mangacide
@Mangacide 24 күн бұрын
I think there's an interesting implication there that the reason she recognized that Furina was cursed is because she is also cursed.
@Hazarock25
@Hazarock25 25 күн бұрын
They are going so hard for arlechino!!
@mossblomma
@mossblomma 24 күн бұрын
I think she does what she has to for the children, the house of the hearth isn't gonna go away if she runs away, so she stays to do her best within the system, but that also means she and the children have obligations they need to adhere to.
@xaviervigil5527
@xaviervigil5527 24 күн бұрын
It's not Freminet. It's the girl who died in the second video released, her first child. Freminet was already in the orphanage during Carabena's time. Clervie is Carabena's biological dsughter. And Carabena uses hydro, not cryo.
@Archetype_Angel
@Archetype_Angel 25 күн бұрын
Can we define her as chaotic good?
@MyStarseedColoring
@MyStarseedColoring 24 күн бұрын
I have seen so many video reactions of this and yet no one has analyzed the fact that the 'doctor' in the start reminds me of Dottore (more specifically one of his aspects. The frankenstein face makes me think of how he takes bits of himself to make his clones and may explain why both forms we've seen so far of him have masks on), and there's a lot of needle/syringes shown when it comes to the final battle scenes... This wasn't JUST 'kill your brothers till there's only one left'. I suspect the previous Knave was working with Dottore to run experiments on the children to see what they could do to produce super-soldiers, much like the other places Dottore has his hands in. They weren't JUST killing off batches of kids, they were experimenting on them. If this is true, then that also explains why our Arlecchino was so adamant about breaking down and killing those who did that to kids (re: Lynette's kidnapper, and the guy in her other trailer who abused kids). She has a history of child abuse/experimentation she does not condone.
@martin144gaming
@martin144gaming 24 күн бұрын
Love your videos and voice, its so enjoyable 💜 cant wait to sacrifine all my wishes for her. Love that little drawing, its so cute
@racosen3204
@racosen3204 24 күн бұрын
I love this analysis of Arlecchino!! I don’t have anything to add on to her like morality, but I think this teaser kinds of gives us more insight onto why she was SO mad with Furina during the AQ. Arlecchino HATES ppl, especially nobles, who present themselves as good and kind, but in reality do nothing, or worse are criminals and scumbags. From an outside perspective, that’s what Furina looked like. She would sing her own praises as an archon but seemed to do nothing about the prophesy, which is why Arlecchino was so infuriated with her
@isaiahhaley4816
@isaiahhaley4816 25 күн бұрын
I feel like with arlecchino the thing that most makes her different from the previous knave is the fact that she has such a stern voice when snezhnecna was reckless but also holds her hand in such a gentle way Because she understands why she did it and it isn’t going to be mad at her for acting out of doing the right thing the only time she actually gets violent with the children is when she threw lyney across a room at one time and that was only because he asked for a delusion in order to help his sister knowing what delusions can do to you she obviously cares for all of the children but since the house is under the influence of the fatui she still has the duty in raising these child soldiers She’s kind of like a character that has somewhat good intentions, but executing those lead to an actual execution of a person‘s life if needed I mean she nearly assassinated furina if she did not realize she had the gnosis since the gnosis is stored in the archons chest seen by how signors child and scara get it if arlecchino where to do the same thing with furina she would’ve died because she’s not a God she obviously didn’t intend on killing the archon but since she had this feeling that she didn’t seem like archon let alone a god she came to the realization that if she did follow through with her original intent furina would have died and after watching her animated short and her teaser it seems like she doesn’t take kindly to people who put on a false caring façade like the philanthropist and the previous knave and even furina who was not doing anything to stop the prophecy as far as arlecchino knew even though she was doing everything in her power to stop it
@colinmasterson666
@colinmasterson666 24 күн бұрын
18:34 A majority of the Genshin fan based: “Step on me, Father!”
@emmam8978
@emmam8978 20 күн бұрын
To me when arlecchino beat the previous knave she seemed to be like young to mid teen 14-16. At that age, as most of us know, we are so vulnerable to our environments, making it so easy for her to internalize the house’s system. the manipulation and cyclical abuse she suffered from the house def made a lasting imprint. And since she potentially joined the harbingers at such a young age she didn’t have a good guiding parental/guardian figure. She only had the injustice and grief to guide her towards a slightly different path. Arlecchino is indeed cruel and not good person but I think she was also a kid who never knew better (doesn’t excuse things tho) Also idk if anyone said this yet but maybe her being the 4th harbinger has to do with 4 being unlucky and related to death in China. Sì (4)sound similar to sǐ (death) And from what I can see arlecchino def has death motifs
@allu_zef
@allu_zef 25 күн бұрын
But but but all regions exploit children. Sayu is a killer, Gorou is a combat general, Gaming is a professional bodyguard. Fischl and Bennett go on missions. These are all people of the same age and experience as Freminet, Lyney, Lynette. Diluc has been killing fatui since he was 18 years old. Diona is an experienced archer at the age of 12. Yaoyao beats people with a stick. This is "normal" for Teyvat. Shuumatsuban is similar to Fatui is similar to Favonius (knight=soldier, Noelle~15) Ayato is almost as "gray" as Arlecchino
@Astrophel24
@Astrophel24 24 күн бұрын
Sayu is not a killer. Do her hangout, she has not ever done an assassination. Gorou's age is unknown but it's unlikely he's a child, young adult maybe but not child in any way; None of the people you mentioned are likely to be the same age as Lyney and Lynette. Fischl is part of the INVESTIGATIVE unit of the adventurer's guild, Bennett goes TREASURE HUNTING. That is not in any way the same as what Lyney, Lynette, and Freminet have to do. 18 yr olds are adults legally, Diona isn't an "experienced archer" she's the child of a hunter. Yao yao CAN beat up people because the adepti wanted her to be safe. She hasn't ACTUALLY beat up people. The amount of misinformation you're spreading is up the roof.
@Astrophel24
@Astrophel24 24 күн бұрын
To explain it further: Yaoyao's training is like when your parents sign you up for karate or some other kinds of martial arts. What Bennett and Fischl do is NOT the same as what the Traveler does on THEIR commissions. Diluc has had a rough teenage hood, Diluc is described as youngest person to become a favonius knight, his experience was not in any way a "normal teyvat childhood exploitation". Your entire comment makes me want to tear my hair out.
@rajaryan-fe1oy
@rajaryan-fe1oy 25 күн бұрын
Man that's alot of lore, I'm not complaining
@ldogg2488
@ldogg2488 25 күн бұрын
I feel like Arlecchino is the same type of evil that Mr. Pickles is from the mature cartoon "Mr. Pickles". The people are as safe to walk the streets as they are, partially due to the dirty work that people like Arlecchino do in the shadows. Arlecchino is an anti-hero, she can do heroic things. But she has also got an intense darkness to her.
@n.s.3609
@n.s.3609 23 күн бұрын
........ But she doesn't do heroic things. All she does is to make her and Fatui get an upper hand. She tried to murder Furina. She only helped Fontaine because she is from Fontaine. Any of people Fatui helped to save can be their victim next day, simply because Tsarica is a psycho bent on destroying peace in all Teyvat.
@ldogg2488
@ldogg2488 23 күн бұрын
@@n.s.3609 It's arguable that Arlecchino removing the stain that was that man is heroic. It serves as possible evidence that she or the Fatui organization, hunts down people similar to him and remove them. Taking the resources they had and using them to further the Fatui's or Arlecchino's own goals. Even if the Fatui victimize someone they previously saved in some manner, doesn't mean they never did any good. Also the Tsaritsa isn't psychotic, if anything she's a sociopath, they are not the same. Tartaglia already told us the goal of the Tsaritsa, she wants to destroy the enslavement placed on Teyvat by the "Heavenly Principles". But a grand feat like that takes a lot of incredibly hard work, the Tsaritsa's determined though. The Tsaritsa and the Fatui are intense and extremist people. It's still unknown if the Heavenly Principles made creatures like Xiao, Ei and her sister, Rex Lapis, and Barbatos. Or if creatures like them were natural occurrences on Teyvat, Which the Heavenly Principles made fight over 7 seats of authority. Authorities that answer directly to them, or at least they used to. I don't remember who or when we were told this, but Celestia has been quiet for a long time. So something major must be going down up there.
@n.s.3609
@n.s.3609 23 күн бұрын
@@ldogg2488 I think it was Nahida who mentioned Celestia has been quiet but I don't remember exactly. Someone definitely said that though. For me Tsarica is a coward who hurts innocent people. If she wants to go to a war with Celestia she should do it instead of letting her people run rampant over Teyvat. Is Dottore experimenting on children needed for her plan? Was it thrusting Inazumians into hunger and powerty? You're right, Tsarica is a sociopath. She isn't better than Celestia - she is much worse because people alive right now suffer because of Tsarica not because of Celestia.
@ldogg2488
@ldogg2488 23 күн бұрын
@@n.s.3609 It doesn't click with me how you see her actions as cowardly instead of careless and cruel, but I accept your viewpoint. Also the Tsaritsa wants to go to war and win the conflict against Celestia. Since that is her end goal, anything that doesn't help her with that she cares very little if at all about. Which also means basically anything that hinders her goals must be destroyed. She needs a lot of firepower, physical and magical to overpower Celestia. Teyvat had it's own magic and secret knowledge before Celestia appeared, and the Tsaritsa clearly isn't all powerful or all knowing. So she's got power to gain and things to learn before she tries something like storming Celestia. And weakening a people to the point that they rely on you to survive, seems like a great way to get them to fight your battles with and for you. Il Dottore's experiments probably help him get closer to understanding how to make more and more powerful super soldiers. Along with how to heal or cure more unique injuries, like magical ailments. Probably even knows how to curse and enchant people and objects. His title is "The Doctor" after all. He's likely figured out magical defenses too.
@YUN4NCAIN
@YUN4NCAIN 19 күн бұрын
The children are devoted to her. They love each other as family.
@earlgraham4720
@earlgraham4720 25 күн бұрын
I think arlechino is a victim, but a victim isnt excused of there crimes if they grow up to be a criminal themselves.
@serenediipity
@serenediipity 21 күн бұрын
i still can't wrap my head around just how complex and morally gray they made her. this isn't ei abandoning one kid or yae wishing death on scara level of morally gray, but a women giving dozens of hopeless orphans a home where they're indoctrinated into treating her and the tsaritsa's word as law while they commit crimes in their name. waiting to do her story quest and see how my opinion of her further develops
@lilpeepgirl
@lilpeepgirl 23 күн бұрын
I think the point of them having all the brothers and sisters fight for one title to death is to create a rift/a made up rivalry betweet them, bc these are/were all really powerful Kids. They needed to asure they wont ,,Team up" to overcome ,, mother " and possible the other powerful adults pulling the strings behind the scenes, they needed a tiny feeling of ,, we are enemies" to make Sure she (mother) stays in Power (which by no means justifiece what they did)
@ashleyandanime4815
@ashleyandanime4815 23 күн бұрын
I heard that ufotable animated the short, which would make this the first thing we’ve gotten in almost 2 years regarding the hoyoverse and ufotable colab
@BryanVonFriently
@BryanVonFriently 24 күн бұрын
I feel like a lot of the criticism of her in this comes from the thought that the House of the Hearth is a genuine orphanage, which it isn't and it never was. The house is a recruitment center, an indoctrination boot camp for children to be turned into loyal pawns. So i don't think she's a "bad parent" that engages in "child endangerment" because not doing that was never a thing that was on the table, they are spies, soldiers, keeping them completely from harm was never the point. It is however a nice side effect if it does keep them safe to her as she does seem to genuinely mourn those that are lost, but she knows that's just how the job is. So to judge her on her actions and care as the matriarch of an orphanage is not fair to her because that was never the point. You have to judge her as the head master of a boot camp, in which she is exceptionally kind and caring to the children under her, keeping them safe as far as it possible within their job. Drill sergeants do not relish in sending batches of soldier to the front either but that's just the job, you make sure they're as prepared as can be and hope they're safe and that's all there is to it.
@Ali-cya
@Ali-cya 25 күн бұрын
It is totally not concerning how much Aster knows about child experimentation, indoctrination and the most effective methods in doing so.
@paulamblard3836
@paulamblard3836 24 күн бұрын
for the ages : i think Arlecchino was ~16 when she flighted "mother", and is now ~28 and for Freminet : he was ~7, and is now ~19
@AnArtistInAVoid
@AnArtistInAVoid 23 күн бұрын
I feel like the Hearth’s orphans, who end up as operatives for Arlechino, look up to the Harbinger as a sort of grand savior. Take Lyney and Lynette’s situation for example: they were basically saved from a cruel fate by Arlechino. Spin that tale the right way, and the people who follow Arlechino would definitely use that as an example of how righteous she is, even if it went as far as fabricating an image of her that is false.
@Roihclem871
@Roihclem871 25 күн бұрын
Hoyo every 5 patches: what if we kill some kids?
@li_luna3014
@li_luna3014 18 күн бұрын
I feel like Arlecchino is being forced to make the children into soldiers by possibly Pierro or the Tsaritsa and that drives her to make them as strong and smart as possible and it's shown when she tells Lyney, Lynette and Freminet to pull back if it gets to dangerous and she really cares about her children. I'm here like a week late so I played her story quest which had something weird in it, but she made a potion where if a child broke the rules sue would simply "kill" their former selves and memories of the House of the Hearth and set them free doing this under the guise of "executions." And the weird thing I noticed during her boss fight was that there was a guiding bee from Remuria there watching us. With Arlecchino and Petrichor being dropped at the same time it's kinda weird. I also feel like her vision was *tainted* by her curse which is why even though it is called a vision it looks dark and muddled. Her curse always flares up when someone or thing dies near her, and when she personally kills someone her nails turn red. She should also be about 27 years old. She was 15-16 when Clervie was killed then a year later she killed Crucabena. Freminet was about 5 when he was taken in by Crucabena and is now abouy 15-16. So if she was about 17 when she killed Crucabena and Freminet aged about 10 years, she should be about 27.
@flop_for_life
@flop_for_life 25 күн бұрын
Btw the girl that died in arlecchinos teaser, snezhevna is also a fatui operative local legend in Fontaine...
@iosis9324
@iosis9324 25 күн бұрын
Snezhevna (female surname) or Snezhevich (male) is a surname that is given to all children from House of the hearth, it is not something unique for one person, and we have already met many Snezhevn before.
@historicflame972
@historicflame972 25 күн бұрын
Snezhevna is also the name of: Arlecchino Lyudochka Tae Lynette Katarina Every Fatui Operative we meet
@flop_for_life
@flop_for_life 24 күн бұрын
@@iosis9324 ohhh shi my bad I forgot about that 😭😭
@thegrandrhabbai2474
@thegrandrhabbai2474 24 күн бұрын
There's something we aren't talking about in the animated short she used pyro so did she get her vision before becoming the knave or after because if it's before it should be a fontain styled vision but from her character design is it's from the fatuai
@alexanderericson8628
@alexanderericson8628 25 күн бұрын
it is more complicated they are all orphans so they have no perception of how a parent should be. She believes mothers are cruel on the inside and manipulative and sweet on the outside. The dialogue between them invite her to be her next daughter, her answer is no and she instead adopts the title of "Father" thinking that would change anything. It's a testament of how clueless they are in the bigger world. She thinks being heartless and strict is going to protect the children from making unnecessary bonds instead she trains them to become soldiers.
@Senbatorii
@Senbatorii 25 күн бұрын
Since you were looking very hard for it. The word is... Spartan.
@hallelion
@hallelion 24 күн бұрын
10:13 It's probably like the Divergent novels (particularly the end of the second one where it was revealed that the goal of the "controlled cities" experiment was to "filter" through the populace and find "truly gifted" individuals, elevating them higher and higher. It's essentially a leaderboard of a "permadeath PK server"? 10:32 "A place that has a lot of potential" It's still an orphanage, I guess. the system the previous director of the House was set up so that the "wheat" and the "chaff" are filtered, and only the "truly gifted" are supported by whatever resources the House has at their disposal. The line in the Arlecchino teaser that speaks about "acquiring budget" supports this view of being a business, that said, the lack of actual "killing" here means the budget may be spread thinly, even for a Harbinger.
@xelloskaczor5051
@xelloskaczor5051 25 күн бұрын
How many children did we make her burry while farming for Neuvi mats do u think? I mean they basically stood on top of the starfish.
@TheGameRuler
@TheGameRuler 23 күн бұрын
There's a curious thing we haven't considered yet; Childe and Scara ultimately warn us about trusting her... I wonder why? When they spoke she sounded routhless yet... lets not beat around the bush, though she can be ruthless and decicive... she can easily backpaddle. Consider when she tried to attack Furina; at first she was going all out because she's an Archon... but then stops herself when she sees she's practically defenseless and tries a different approach, with sweets and tea and even to some points like scoulding like an actual parent, ending the talks on amicable terms afterwards as if she WAS a stern parent that is concerned for their kid. Let us not forget she GENUINELY wanted to save Fontaine... something other Fatui Harbingers didn't seem all to keen on doing. Signora didn't do much to help Mondstatd despite how she acted and her reasons, Childe was ready to flood and sink Liyue Harbour, Inazuma was literally beset by political strife and civil war and maintained it from the suggestions, actions and subterfuge of THREE HARBINGERS on key figures on both sides and Sumeru had Doutore literally conduct all these experiments because "why not?" so... I ask the question, did she gain such infamy because she IS a backstabber? Or... did she gain that infamy because she killed the original Knave (or whatever her title was) and because she seemingly acts different from other Harbingers? She's a complex character... but I don't lable her as a vilain... if anything... she's probably an anti-vilain. Also... by law (chinese law) Hoyoverse can't make pure evil characters because of morality issues so... if she's playable... she's not evil or at least has very redeemable qualities. Though considering the last instance of Doutore alive is the most selfish... death flag raised?
@b-trixangel198
@b-trixangel198 25 күн бұрын
Do yall think crucabena is the number 10th missing harbinger?
@tehCostHD
@tehCostHD 25 күн бұрын
Based on her strength it’s possible, but does that mean 4th was just empty at the time?
@b-trixangel198
@b-trixangel198 25 күн бұрын
@@tehCostHD since the 6th harbinger seat is said to be empty (because scaramouche tecnically didnt exist for them) for years I think that the harbingers numbers are just keep that way because they are assigned by pierro and the numbers seem to be like fated to a specific person, so when they die they dont move, signora is dead but we dont know if childe or pantalone ascended the ranks since they were under her, could be just so the players dont get confused with too many change tho
@tehCostHD
@tehCostHD 25 күн бұрын
@@b-trixangel198 pretty intersting tbh. I wonder if arleccino voice lines will give us more insight on how it works
@b-trixangel198
@b-trixangel198 25 күн бұрын
@@tehCostHD yeah, and the two fatui in monstadt after her quest too
@capnjace848
@capnjace848 23 күн бұрын
I think maybe she chose the role and title of "father" (cold and unfeeling outwardly but the opposite on the inside) because she did want to be like their "mother" who pretended to be loving and warm but was instead cruel. Also Arrlecchino probably inherited number 4 immediately because she did off the previous title holder.
@halletelen9825
@halletelen9825 24 күн бұрын
10:34 that smiling rabbit reminds me of dottore
@noobgambit3
@noobgambit3 22 күн бұрын
I just remember about the Tsaritsa promise of a "new world" and also taking into consideration the samsara cycles. Maybe Arlechino feels guilt of what she does with the house of heart and she justifies it to herself believing that once the new world starts all those children will be able to live happy lives. That would also explain her exhaustion due to constantly fighting herself and trying to justify her actions to herself
@noobgambit3
@noobgambit3 22 күн бұрын
In no way I'm saying that what she does is correct :v I'm just trying to understand her
@lowrigardiner6963
@lowrigardiner6963 22 күн бұрын
Love the code geass reference for Cornelia bcs I thought the exact same thing when I first saw her haha. Totally random too, but on the topic of CG, I always had a crack plot that she is planning on pulling off some lelouch 💀 stuff like what he did at the end of the anime.
@keixayaka
@keixayaka 25 күн бұрын
I also think there's more to the "King" thing during Crucabena's time because you have a point about the battle royale being a waste of potential manpower. There's a couple of frames in the short that indicate there's some experimentation going on back then (the evil-looking plushie at the beginning and the very conspicuously framed syringe before the fight) so yeah... Arle is definitely ruthless and has her own agenda but I wouldn't say she considers the orphans something as callous-sounding as "tools" like you mentioned. There's some text in existing character stories that implies she values them as people and makes sure they learn to value their own lives and even other beings like the kittens Lynette adopted. Fremi even now seems to be struggling with the idea of being strong enough to value his own life rather than just following orders like he was programmed to do by the previous director. Even soldiers irl are programmed to lay their lives for their country and Arle doing the opposite with the children is in itself pretty telling how she views them. (She's just emotionally constipated and it has probably something to with her curse if it's actually emotion-based). And I'm not really sure what internal benefit or gratification she gains from being a member of the organization and the manager of the orphanage that screwed her over. The Tsaritsa's words that Pierro relayed "this title and its legacy of bloodshed is now yours to bear" make it seems like her position is a burden rather than a reward. This is why I'm currently in the camp that Arle "secretly" hates the Fatui and would betray them given the chance since they basically ruined her and her childhood friends' lives, and even has her continuing the cycle. This would explain why Childe and Scara's spidey (heh) senses are tingling and conclude she's potentially a traitor. And she has mentioned she wears a lot of masks before. But of course, there's a huge chance that this theory is wrong and Arle has made peace with her past and the Fatui and is fully onboard with their plans, child soldiers and all. All that being said, I'm not trying to say that's she a good or bad person nor am I trying to diminish her responsibility for the child soldiers and their death. But I gotta say, the potential anguish she feels sending children off to missions that might kill them even though she cares for them makes for a juicy character nuance.
@redlox2
@redlox2 25 күн бұрын
OOh yaya i am catching the premiere live!!!!
@Zemeritt
@Zemeritt 19 күн бұрын
Regarding the blond girl question at 10:50: You can see a sword stuck in the ground at 4:10, with an accessoir similar to what that girl had in her hair. So she's dead
@kim5668
@kim5668 24 күн бұрын
I appreciate you opening the discussion with the fact that Arlecchino is not a good person. You make a good point that she is not inherently evil either though. I still think what she’s doing is abuse even if she does see the children as people. Abuse can be unintentional. She is just forced to continue this cycle because she probably knows she cannot stop the Fatui who actually run the orphanage and probably doesn’t know any better herself. On another note, I was wondering if her curse is related to the one that Carter has in the Fontaine world quests since they both seem to have the black fade on their arms. Her curse is a very interesting point as I believe that’s how she got the strength to win the fight against the Mother?
@SleepDeprivedRatako
@SleepDeprivedRatako 25 күн бұрын
WaH aster vid POG
@KaagKagamine5
@KaagKagamine5 25 күн бұрын
Personally as I see it, just because she's a better parent than the previous Arlecchino IN SOME ASPECTS doesn't mean she's good that she's the end of a chain. Because kids are still getting used for Dottore's experiments, she's still raising soldiers and a lot of those soldiers are dying and suffering. Most importantly, she is forcing Liney to continue the Arlecchino legacy. And as of now we don't know if the king game it's also active, the only fact is that her approach as king to the children is opposite to the previous king. I'm really hoping in the next patch there's a way to prevent the succession because Liney clearly prefers his magician legacy to the Arlecchino one.
@Luna_M_Traveller
@Luna_M_Traveller 24 күн бұрын
I think she is good in the way that death is good, the cruelty is necessary for the long term, also I enjoy the way that she is morally grey which we don’t see in many other characters in Genshin, the only ones I can thing of are the other harbingers
@krcmy-krczmy-ch.3538
@krcmy-krczmy-ch.3538 25 күн бұрын
I personaly like this moraly gray characters as they tend to be more interesting inside the Hoyoverse story writing then just story with another happy or moraly good character mostly when those stories are like Hangout event and not really piece of this scary Teyvat continent with dark and really scary feel we find behind some text or hidden part of game.
@yourrandomvampireloli1839
@yourrandomvampireloli1839 24 күн бұрын
The redhead in the poster is probably some other ley line sheneannigans
@capnjace848
@capnjace848 23 күн бұрын
I do believe Arlecchino genuinely cares for the children, she is just bound by her duties and responsibilities and is trying to make the most out of a bad situation. I also think the harbingers were recruited not for their morality (I once thought they were all evil and upon meeting Childe I assumed maybe they are all good maybe), but for their power, influence, and allegiance to their nation. From what we've seen so far, Childe and Arlecchino are nice at best, indifferent at their worst; so most are probably drawn by self interest,. We have met some truly evil ones but even they set aside their own agendas and put their missions at priority. So I think morally, the harbingers are all over the place and the only thing common amongst all them is their allegiance to the Tsaritsa; evil and good people working together for an unlawful good archon.
@gladiusbladeofthenorth9939
@gladiusbladeofthenorth9939 25 күн бұрын
Something about Arlecchino reminds me of Cruella de Vil, probably the design itself
@5255andrew
@5255andrew 24 күн бұрын
I think she looks in her mid teens when she fights the ex harbinger. I’d say she’s been a harbinger since 15
@TheLejonell
@TheLejonell 25 күн бұрын
ENJOY
@capellakuro2678
@capellakuro2678 24 күн бұрын
in business, you need to cut cost. 1 very skillfull perosn is better value than having 100 mediocre people who you need to take care, feed, monitor. you only need 1 that can do everything, the best of them. or just for entertainment, thats why you have battle royale, hunger games, squid game, the winner takes all or nothing.
@espyname1977
@espyname1977 24 күн бұрын
I've seen a few people say that "Mother" has Cryo powers, but...they look Hydro to me, they even have "water/wave" sound effects when she uses them. Does it say anywhere that she for sure is Cryo?
@matrixfull
@matrixfull 24 күн бұрын
my weakness is that I love when characters are pure good and I know that's super boring for everyone else but yeaaa that's why I can't like Arlecchino like 99% ppl do. still I don't hate on genshin having her in game, it's good to have diversity of characters : ]]
@n.s.3609
@n.s.3609 23 күн бұрын
Good, kind characters aren't boring ;) People like that actually make lives better while characters like Arleccino are interesting only in media ;) Yup, she's an interesting character - I just dislike how people think she's "good". In the end she uses human beings as tools. There's nothing "good" or "morally grey" about it. I'm so sad another Harbinger won't meet the same end as Seniora... Well, I can only hope Tsarica will, for all pain she caused in the whole Teyvat.
@RasenCore
@RasenCore 24 күн бұрын
I love me a morally grey character in this sea of almost Mary Sue-ish goody two shoes ones. Not to say that all of Genshin cast is bad, the opposite actually, but seeing a playable character this complex is refreshing.
@pluraleve
@pluraleve 24 күн бұрын
its like zabuza from naruto who had to kill all his brother and sisters, house of hearth was basically that
@isdrakon9802
@isdrakon9802 25 күн бұрын
I've had a pretty heavy trust in Arlecchino due to her love for those in the house. After hearing the warning from Chile it just went up because the only people he cares about is the Tseritsa and his family, so someone who would happily betray the Tseritsa. So thanks to how much the Lynette Lyney and Freminet care for the traveler, along with our power and overall hatred for the futui. Not only are we in a position to not be an obstacle for her we could help separate the house from the futui. The main problem I'm seeing is that yes arleccino is partaking in a system that creates child soldiers, however it's one she inherited from the previous harbinger, and she should know not to trust any of the other harbingers. Say she tried to rebel right not to try and make the hearth an actually good place, she would die leaving the children in the hands of a different harbinger, like dottore. Which we can all agree would be worse. So yes, bad parent and fairly bad person but it's far more complicated than that. Also get curse seems to be similar to that hilichurl we see that can take human form, same black coloring halfway up the arm
@FluffyWaffle33
@FluffyWaffle33 25 күн бұрын
it is honestly tragic to see the continuation of abuse, I wonder if lyney, lynette and fremi will be the ones to break the cycle
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