Breaking Free: Drake Bell Talks Trauma and His Truth | The Man Enough Podcast

[@WeAreManEnough]

TIMECODES: (00:00) Episode begins (04:13) When was the last time you didn't feel enough? (08:00) Background information on Drake's story and Jamey opens up about his assault (13:00) Letters of support for Brian Peck's during trial (17:36) Rehab and decided to share his story (34:23) How trauma affected Drake and things he could have done better (43:59) Allegations against Drake and holding him accountable (1:07:43) Men who have been abused can become abusers (1:14:19) Message to fans who are attacking his accuser online (1:19:57) Blurred lines in relationships (1:22:55) Drake on why shouldn't pressure people and public figures to speak out (1:26:39) Creating a safe space for himself & healing (1:37:20) What does it mean to you to be Man Enough?

[@montserrat919]

43:59 I didn’t know you were law enforcers to hold someone accountable for something he already took responsibility for years ago. Funny, I don’t see the minute you all started attacking a sexual abuse survivor and condescendingly treating him.

[@tyeishaleisure]

@@montserrat919 thank you. Honestly, all these KZbinrs need to just stop talking about the case. There’s only one person on KZbin that covered the case correctly. Everybody else has been taking the side of the girl. And yeah, I would love to see them include the timestamp for where they start being extremely condescending to Drake and attacking him. they know that if they include the timestamp for that portion itwill make them look bad.

[@montserrat919]

@@tyeishaleisure, many think they know as much as psychologists and psychiatrists and know what people should be saying and doing. I would love to see anybody being punished forever for one mistake they already paid for on top of being a survivor of sexual abuse. Love to see how they’d cope with that. No wonder Drake moved to Mexico, and he said it recently in other interviews. Mexico, the country from which many escape is an escape for others looking for peace and a supportive community. Weird that the most powerful country in the world is driving its own people insane.

[@tyeishaleisure]

@@montserrat919 exactly. Honestly the other thing that really angers me is that they asked him if he’s telling his story now to gain support to start his career up here in the US again. Excuse me? Trauma isn’t fun to talk about at all. It’s called trauma for a reason it’s traumatic. One in the world? how Drake would they oldest take Home during that question purely amazing to me. That was gross. These guys crossed so many boundaries. They are not qualified to handle this kind of topic at all. Justin being in therapy for many years and writing a book doesn’t make him an expert. It doesn’t make him a psychologist or therapist. They definitely crossed some ethical lines here and I’m just not OK with this at all. Drake has a qualified trained therapist. Who knows how to appropriately handle these types of conversations. These guys especially Justin do not know how to have these conversations. They are not qualified. in the therapist won’t push boundaries.! The more I think about it the more I’m just finding it really difficult to ignore how wrong this is. I just feel for Drake. Sorry my thoughts are all over the place. I’m just really frustrated. I’ve taken mini psychology classes and we talk about ethics and this is just not it. This should’ve been an interview where Drake shared his story and it shouldn’t of been anything more than that. The majority of these conversations should be between him and his therapist not three podcast hosts who are not qualified. I fear that this did more harm than good.

[@montserrat919]

@@tyeishaleisure, my thoughts exactly. It was not an interview, it was an inquisition. This is the second episode of Justin I watch, but the other was with his friends, some of them mentioned in his book, and the vibe, the openness, the respect, everything was so much different to this scenario. I read his book and really liked it, and I agree with him on so many things, but after watching this I think his empathy is limited to the people he knows who are in his life, because a person who is truly empathic, who is a good listener, and who cares about, particularly, men in this society and how they are treated would’ve never done what they all did to Drake. Pleading guilty is 100% evidence of Drake taking responsibility for his actions, so who are they to “hold him accountable”? So is he going to be judged and punished again? Isn’t that the job of law enforcers? The other guy even pushed him to say he was unfaithful in his marriage. What right does he have to push anybody to say that kind of thing? It’s so infuriating I can’t.

[@amandagroome75]

Exactly the type of interview that Drake Bell needed. Open, honest and learning to be accountable for one's own actions towards others.

[@woopoganntnt7379]

holy shit you guys are actually insane people

[@peterk3556]

The Thing is If people around me are so serious around me i get depressed

[@aycaiix]

​​@foxyybflylet's not lose our own sanity. these are just people hopping on the hype train. they never cared for Drake and never genuinely will in the long term. They just read headlines and think it must be true. They probably didn't know the whole sentencing happened years ago and isn't a recent event anyway. They don't know nor care that Drake's always taken accountability. They can't fathom and stomach the fact that he isn't a monster or an actual predator in a traditional sense. Dude made an incredibly stupid mistake texting/sexting a minor, without his knowledge or care to know if she was a minor. That's all there is to this entire case but of course outsiders try to make it way bigger than it is. I'm genuinely fed up, can't imagine how Drake feels, not only reliving his own SA trauma but the whole name-calling and misinformation regarding the case years ago, all at the same time. Dude needs a break, and he was right all along going to Mexico many many years ago. The west just doesn't possess the same empathy.

[@tatiannabaker3943]

@@aycaiix if you’re an adult you should care to know if someone’s a minor.. you’re an adult and you should be help responsible for your actions! It feels like you’re making excuses cause he’s drake bell

[@aycaiix]

@@tatiannabaker3943 Aside from the fact that he has taken accountability plenty of times and basically said, yes, I should have been more careful, I'm not making any excuses nor is he. Maybe stop beating a dead horse. And secondly, he doesn't have to verify age in every single conversation he has. That's some idealistic thinking you have to impose on him and basically everyone else. You don't even have any details or explicit screenshot of the chat to know how all of this went down and why it got to the way it did. He said he didn't know she was a minor. The bigger red flag here is why a 15 year old is willingly and knowingly engaging in a conversation with someone who's obviously an adult. After all she was the one who started the conversations and it got inappropriate along the way. If I saw someone starting this with me I'd automatically assume they're of legal age. That's how it is in most cases anyway.

[@jenniferlegrand9472]

You can tell that Drake is in the very early stages of reconciling what has happened to him and what he has done. I hope that he will be invited back as he continues his journey of healing. I am rooting for him...

[@georgefloresvillalba9099]

Same he’s on his redemption arc

[@heathertapper-gq6pk]

The girl lied

[@cartergomez5390]

Can't believe I never heard of him 😂

[@chrismeadows4216]

​@@cartergomez5390, I highly recommend watching Drake & Josh and listening to his albums, beginning with his early ones. He's one of the best stars of Nickelodeon, and an extraordinary singer-songwriter.

[@Boomhauersdad]

@@SD-wn3cm she lied.

[@OliverGByrne]

That was one of the best interview with Drake I have seen. You asked all the right questions while not loosing empathy towards the child he was and how horrific the things that where done to him. I hope a lot of people watch this episode !

[@woopoganntnt7379]

you guys are actually awful for defending Drake lmao

[@tvtvtfan3767]

@@woopoganntnt7379I most people don’t know the whole story. His story doesn’t take away the legal issues he is involved but I don’t believe his trauma is taking away from the troubles he has legality whatever. It was necessary for Brian Peck to be called out. I also don’t think Drake is defending his actions.

[@woopoganntnt7379]

@@tvtvtfan3767 sure fuck Brian but y’all are giving this dude more attention then he deserves, and a lot of yall are genuinely like feeling bad for this creep, and a good chunk of yall are actually forgiving him lmao

[@siracastori01]

@@woopoganntnt7379 First interview I heard where they actually challenged him.

[@heathertapper-gq6pk]

That girl lied about draie

[@nmutua11]

as a woman it's really nice to see men actually sharing their thoughts and feelings in a vulnerable way

[@gypsywoman9140]

Agreed! I was really hoping the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard case would open up discussions on male victims/survivors of DA. As a woman, I am grateful for all the supports etc available to us, even women with children needing to escape bad situations. But there doesn't seem to be as much out there for men and people seem to forget that males can be victims, too. So many have had their lives ruined by a woman's lies and don't have Johnny Depp money to fight and clear their names. It's good to finally see important discussions opening up surrounding male survivors. Gender doesn't matter; anyone can be a victim, survivor, or ab user.

[@Hinokami777]

We would more if woman didn’t use it against us or make us feel emasculated for doing so

[@boxer12350]

Facts ​@@Hinokami777

[@genesisavila6166]

@@Hinokami777I’ve never heard or seen a woman do that. It’s only men that call each other soft.

[@HereForTheCupcakes]

@@genesisavila6166you haven’t been around enough women then. Men will say soft/gay/p*ssy as jabs. Women can, and will outright weaponize that man’s pain as leverage. There’s a difference.

[@ashleythompson8243]

Drake, I am really proud of you and I’m so happy you’re still with us. You’re helping so many young men and SA survivors, myself included, by being this open about your story, ups and downs and all.

[@catchthesefans]

I came for drake and left with new lessons. Saying "I" while discussing ones experiences is so important. I will try to incorporate the same for my own healing journey. This was great, thank you for this.

[@yolkcoaching]

I'm glad that he has people who hold him accountable now. He really seems like he is holding himself accountable and has remorse but is also dealing with holding space for his own trauma. Respect to him for speaking up. These are the kind of conversations the world needs to hear.

[@britnizta]

Yes, completely agree 👏🏽

[@jay-hy7ez]

Accountability? Where. He didn’t mention a single thing he was accused of in the past except messaging a minor. As a 30 year old speaking to a 12 year old!!! There’s no fucking way he didn’t know she was underage. The least he could do was admit that he knew. And that he was sick. He was also accused of verbally and physically abusing multiple of his ex girlfriends. But didn’t mention that also, so to me this was a whole lot of nothing from someone who is heavily media trained.

[@Gurl89467]

@@jay-hy7ez ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠you’ve clearly been lucky enough to never met a determined 12/13 year old, unfortunately teenagers do lie or manipulate the truth to get what they want. Let alone an obsessed fan. I know of several situations, one where the male was wrongly imprisoned for over a year because of false allegations/conviction based on victim testimony alone despite witnesses for the defense corroborating his version of events (well what the girl said happened was true but it was her uncle not her BFs dad, he sadly was the one who recognised something was up & was trying to help her!). He’d lost his job, ruined his reputation, the family had to move because of it even after his conviction was overturned And re: the girlfriends, hes clearly reflecting on his romantic relationships in this conversation. Like most abuse survivors, he probably has complex PTSD which can change the way you react to situations & he may not be at a point right now where he is able to be open on a public level because he’s still working through this stuff. He’s also blocked a lot from his memory and if he was triggered at the time, that’s going to take some time to unpick. It’s also more appropriate that he has private conversations with them before making any public statement !

[@emmielozada2815]

Yeah and whoever says he is insincere is screwed up in the head!

[@heatherwiley2215]

I was sexually assaulted by my dad and his friends. I'm 35 and just now realizing that was what happened. Thank you for coming forward and helping me realize that was happening and taking the steps to heal and grow and to stop immediately and get the help that is needed. 😊

[@andriam254]

That’s terrible, so sorry u had to go through that, Dad’s are supposed to love u, not hurt u. Hope u are finding in peace in ur Journey, wherever that may take you.

[@cinthiac30]

I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you get the help needed.

[@terminator2girl]

Please tell me how you came to realise it was abuse. Thank you

[@julie.66]

oh God...i'm so sorry. a sick sick bas...d

[@CowichanSoulCreations]

As someone who was also molested twice, my heart is with you❤

[@mmhr7731]

Ah Drake. You are brave as hell. As a woman, a survivor, an addict and a performer, you are such a light. We learn in AA to keep our egos out of things and hold ourselves accountable. I can see that he’s working it. This was beautiful to watch. All my love to everyone in this interview. Thank you for going there. This is going to help so many people. ❤️

[@meganp340]

I met Drake years ago at the airport in Mexico and he was so so kind. We were in the security line and he had his guitar with him and offered to take a picture before I even asked. its so heart breaking to hear about what he has gone through. I'm currently midway through my doctorate program to be a clinical psychologist and amidst the Quiet on Set show i am able to look at everything with that knowledge in mind, and it will forever continue to grow as we learn more and more about trauma. I also grew up on all of these shows when I was a kid and it really does change my childhood. I wish someone would have protected Drake and others more and held the abusers accountable earlier on.

[@Oceaniac]

I am a prospective student looking to switch over to Psychology, and eventually undergo a doctorate in Clinical Psychology. Watching the documentary, hearing Drake’s story, and seeing how the hosts here are so empathetic and supportive whilst helping Drake come to terms with all that he’s feeling, so that he can face the world with his inner strength is truly beautiful to witness. A very close friend of mine had recently told me about his own experiences in being sa’d as a child by an older male relative. Nobody in his family knows and that disgusting abuser has since died. My heart shattered when he told me. He’s such a strong guy and is able to live normally, but hearing Drake and (forgive me for I am not sure of his name) the host on the left speak about how so many boys get abused and bottle it in and only face it in adulthood makes me worry about my friend. He only just hit his 20s a couple of days ago. It hurts to know that perhaps some day he’ll have to face this. I just hope he won’t feel alone and can turn to me or anyone else he feels comfortable with. I hope that by that time I am in a position where I can provide good service for him as a trained psychologist. I wish you good luck on your journey on becoming a psychologist. I hope we can help those who have suffered from abuse like this.

[@meganp340]

​@@Oceaniac that is so unfortunate he went through that experience. but with his life he will have support and you can be able to direct him to mental health services. thank you so much and thank for commenting, i wish you the best of luck in your clinical career. my best advice so far would to take care of yourself!!! it will be a lot of work but very worth it. best of luck

[@meganp340]

with you in his life*

[@mikitamallma]

Drake Campana!

[@Gurl89467]

@@Oceaniacthank you for sharing, at least they have told someone, you can be that close friend who can call them out if they start to spiral & direct him to resources if they need more support. Therapy is something that you need to want to engage with and that can be a hard thing to realize & accept but complex ptsd is something that needs working on so our reactions to ‘normal situations’ aren’t in a manner that may be harmful to ourselves or others x

[@benjamingamez2515]

Thank you, Drake Bell. I am a 35 year old who was molested at the ages of 4, 5, and 7. My life spiraled as I got older. I never got any justice when I spoke out at 12. Thank you for speaking out and helping to bring this serious problem to the forefront. I watched the documentary, I relate to you, and I am so sorry that you had to go through what you did. You did not deserve it. You deserved much better. I am here, cheering you on as you fight this fight. I doubt you will ever see my comment, but I'm Thankful that you are doing what's right. You are not alone.

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you for sharing and for your compassion. We're so sorry that you endured those experiences and have had challenges as a result as well. Sending you love and support.

[@JustineSalisbury]

The best interview Drake has ever done!! I hope people will see his big heart and gain a new perspective about him after watching this. He's learning to heal and wanting to change for the better.

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you for watching 🧡

[@joecarter9198]

When I was 12, I was groomed and molested by two adult men. This is an epidemic in our society that people have refused to talk about I didn't tell anyone in until I was at least in my mid-40s and I'm almost 60 now God bless Drake. He is doing more good for victims than he will ever know

[@efrainpalma3855]

Sometimes it’s a lifetime before u say anything about it ! I hope u are ok ! 🤗

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you for sharing your story. We are sending you love 🧡

[@amandahugginkiss61]

God bless you. 🙏🏼

[@TrueCrime_With_Sheila]

Prayers to you 🫶

[@stephaniekayholbrook1545]

Sending you all my love❤ I’ve been abused too and just now am unearthing deep issues

[@CLINTONJOHNSONIII]

"It doesn't leave, but it doesn't have to control me anymore." Real wisdom right there 💯💯💯

[@jackie41083]

Yes! Let's normalize more men talking about healing their traumas. Men need to know it's OK and healthy to heal

[@arielchoate332]

I’m so angry FOR drake. I’m also so unbelievably proud of him, for who he is and how he has owned his actions. Damn, he’s brave. God, I hope he has solid support in his life.

[@amberess8695]

Im glad they didnt censor the trigger words because it holds more gravity to the severity of the trauma and the crime. It's horrific. Whoever has suffered this type of abuse, know you are worthy of getting help and sticking around.

[@ashleythompson8243]

I’ve noticed that and it’s been heartbreaking to see that he is still unable to verbalize “I was r@ped.”

[@surprisinglyawake1]

​@@ashleythompson8243 yes, I've noticed from all his interviews he can't bring himself to say that word. : (

[@ashley38296]

@@surprisinglyawake1 same and he would keep “when you” instead of “i” sugarcoating the situation im glad these 3 picked up on that

[@surprisinglyawake1]

@@ashley38296 the word R@pe is what he can't bring himself to say .

[@gaila.9852]

Do you not understand the concept of being triggered and why censoring is important?

[@Oceaniac]

I’m reading through the comments seeing just how many people have been abused. This needs to stop. Everyone here is incredibly strong. Stronger than they think.

[@kahristah]

My fiancé noticed I was saying “you” instead of “I” when practicing for job interviews and I’m very glad it was pointed out to me because it’s helped a lot.

[@gaila.9852]

Timestamp for this part of the conversation?

[@mentallygrowing247]

Can we get every celebrity to do interviews with you 3? The way you also listened to his story, but still held him accountable was EXTREMELY refreshing to see. To many podcasts and interviews won't be honest and straight forward. Seeing this made my heart so happy. Thank you for this. ❤

[@montserrat919]

They are not the authority to held people accountable. They didn’t listen, they pushed their own agenda onto him. Can’t you see he’s visibly uncomfortable? Also, only a therapist should tell us how to express ourselves and why we choose certain words instead of others. I really feel for Drake. He deserves so much better than this.

[@MariePfefferkorn]

I appreciate Drake, I find it very hard to believe his parents allowed that adult which is a stranger to have anything to do with him

[@montserrat919]

@@MariePfefferkorn, are you saying you don’t believe his story?

[@MariePfefferkorn]

@@montserrat919 no

[@montserrat919]

@@MariePfefferkorn, sorry, I didn’t understand your comment then.

[@morganwright4663]

When he started to cry it made me so angry and upset and sad all at the same time no one should have to go through this as a kid, stay strong Drake! We all love and support you! ❤️

[@jadesiapno]

This was an excellent example of empathy and accountability being shown together. I hope that Drake continues to heal from this trauma and can show up as the person he wants to be.

[@Nathalie922_]

He is definitely still processing everything, it's great he is taking accountability for his actions not many celebrities are willing to be this transparent

[@amandahugginkiss61]

He feels honest here. Not rehearsed and not acting. My opinion. I’m praying for his recovery and reconciliation.

[@JustineSalisbury]

I think it speaks volumes when Drake got emotional and cried at 1:14:54 when he learned that the woman in his 2021 Ohio case was getting attacked online. Although he made the mistake of DMing her, it shows Drake has empathy and genuine remorse and wants to do better. He has also defended both his mom and Josh Peck when they were getting hate online as well. He has a good heart. ❤ Also, he HAS reached out to people from his past and is rekindling. I know that for a fact. He is trying!

[@emmielozada2815]

I know. I believe he is trying to be the better man he wants to be. I forgive him for his past mistakes whether they are alleged or proven.

[@jessienelson1932]

Drake seems like a guy with the right heart and the right intentions. He has made mistakes, but he seems very genuine.

[@amandahugginkiss61]

I agree. It’s actually the first time I’ve found him likable and I’m realizing that maybe the falseness that I found off-putting was his self-protection.

[@ashley38296]

@@amandahugginkiss61ive thought this since the stood up for josh 😭

[@LaceFX]

Drake might be the only celeb that understands accountability. Im glad the majority see he’s being real here

[@gaila.9852]

Your first statement is not even close to being true.

[@Healther1415]

Drake is such a sweet soul. After watching his new interviews with Today and Access Hollywood, I went back and watched this video. I can see some growth after watching this video. I hope he continues to heal and grow. I wish him all the success on his journey.

[@anicholeRL9861]

As someone who has past trauma/abuse in a different form than the trauma/abuse Drake experienced, I thoroughly appreciate this video and all of the aspects confronted by each of you. No matter the type of trauma or abuse one may experience, we all have two things in common. Pain and shame. But we can learn so much from each other when we vulnerably share our raw and real truth. Not just the details of what occurred and left deep scars and damage, but the details of how we are handling it now and moving on, whatever that looks like. How we continually aim to heal and eventually grow from our pasts and hopefully help others. I know truly we all want to help others in the end. ❤

[@WeAreManEnough]

We're sorry you had to endure that. Your support and kind words mean a lot to us and to many people out there, we're sure.

[@taylahacker]

As a victim of sexual abuse from my older sister I 100% resonate with Drake bell and have so much respect for him owning both sides of his story. Many people can relate to that more than you know.

[@Celly_G]

Holy shit, older sister?

[@ALIKIN12345]

Sad ASF smh. So much sexual subliminal messages everywhere that boosts these types of things it's sick

[@saramilena.]

same but was my stepbrother, and i think it has affected me a bit on the sexual thing or preferences that if u wouldn't be abused u wouldn't have it i think 🤷🏻‍♀️ ugh how sad

[@briallt]

I also experienced something similar with my older brother so you're not alone

[@andriam254]

This breaks my heart reading “older sister..” I’m so sorry u had to go through that, I too know ur pain as I was molested by my older half brother for years. Older siblings are supposed to be “Our Protectors,” so it’s really sad when their the one’s who actually cause us this kind of hurt😕

[@AngelTortured]

Somethings I need to say. 1. Unfortunately "I kinda relate" too Drake. I myself am a male SA survivor in the industry. 2. I had to deal with my own set of letters for the support of my abuser. 3. Nothing was done, it was treated as a joke and I was fired from the project. Her fans proceeded to stalk to a point I had to move and change my name. Ruined my relationship with my gf. I had kept secret of the abuse for months. I didn't even realize SA was involved until therapy. 4. I had spoken out about her on a few podcasts, I received a lawsuit for breaking the NDA. Cause the SA happened on a filmset, and that was seen as probable cause of character deframing her and the TV show. 5. I had recently come forward about it once again a couple weeks before knowing of the doc. I had been on the fence about as it was so horrible last time I did. Listening to Drake, it stung for a few reasons. A. I'm extremely guilty of believing sloan, my abuser was a massive Bell fan. Listening to circles and in the end while being SA'd, subconsciously become- well if my abuser likes you, then you must be bad too. (They were also friends with onison). B. It hurts being so alone, but also not being alone. Hard to not use "you" either. It hurts being alone in all those, people I trusted left letters of support or claiming I must've wanted the attention. It hurts not being alone that someone dealt with similar abuse, and that abuser glided by in life while you suffered. I'm going forward with what happened to me. I don't think I could've without hearing Drake. Anyone who thinks someone coming forward is to be relevant deserves to be curb stomped. Pressure to speak up, when we do it's seen as a spectacle. Someone wanting every detail of your abuse, as if. Please get your porn somewhere else, my trauma and pain isn't your kinky fantasy. I was abused by my boss who was a woman, and I was abused by men as a kid. Trust I have is zero for anyone. I've made new connections and friends, it hurts when I have to tell them I'll never tell you my stuff. That someone says they love me, I'm their close friend. I don't have close friends. I haven't spoken about it, only until recently only with other survivors. I'm asked to bring evidence, but how? When I reported it the first time, nothing happened. I was laughed at, then was posted online before I could tell anyone publicly. She publicly said I was crazy and jealous she had let me go for creative differences. I didn't know R*ping someone was considered creative difference. I tried talking about it on eat predators reddit, but that was a nightmare. I'm glad this podcast came up. I'm definitely a guy who needed this as I was regretting coming out recently. Cause no one in my inner circle has been through this, yet I'm not alone.

[@efrainpalma3855]

🤗

[@JojoSimms]

thank you for sharing, and I am so sorry for your pain. What happened when you tried to talk on eat predators? I thought Alexa would've been sensitive out of everyone.

[@Oceaniac]

I’m so incredibly sorry for what happened to you. You’re such a strong person despite all of the injustices you faced. This is completely up to you, whether you want to share or not, but you should name your abuser, especially if they are still free and haven’t been brought to justice yet.

[@aprilwilson9511]

I'm so very sorry, this happened to you! I hope that one day you are able to find inner peace, learn to trust & know you are not alone. Sending you virtual healing thoughts, empathy, compassion and kindness. You are enough, you are worthy and you are heard!!!

[@JenniferPoole.33272]

I’m very sorry for what you’ve been through, sir. And for everyone else. My heart goes out to you guys. And those idiots who laughed were wrong to think that. Rap* is no joke. Rap* is a crime. It’s evil. So is CSA.

[@NatalieMillikan]

Drake, I am so proud of you for being so vulnerable. You are making the world a better place by doing so. I look forward to what is in store for you as you embark on this journey of healing. Thank you, and just know that you are seen in your humanity. You are not alone in your suffering. Also, don't put too much pressure on yourself to be perfect or only have an upward healing trend. The path of healing is not linear, so be kind to yourself. I wish I could give you a prolonged hug.

[@Gil_Merrick]

Statistics say 1 in 6 men have suffered some form of childhood sexual abuse. It is so important that celebrities like Drake give a voice to those who have been traumatised by sexual predators. I was abused for 7 years, beginning at the age of 14, and wrote a memoir about it: "Haunted Victory: Healing From Childhood Sexual Abuse and the Decades of Addiction That Followed." Drake helps us understand how children can become victims of a predator and shows us that healing is possible when victims seek out and embrace the help of professionals and people who love them. Thanks for having Drake on the podcast.

[@isabellekayden5847]

1 in 6 men. Wow

[@gaila.9852]

I really respect the fact that Drake was able to share his experience in his own time.

[@peyton7110]

Even if Drake wasn’t quite ready for an interview like this at this stage in his process, I’m glad he did it. He’s truly inspiring. Would love to see a follow up interview a few years down the road. 💛

[@R.Anonymous]

😊😢😊😢😮😮😮😅😢

[@bethscarberry6845]

So, so proud of him. To talk about his mistakes, owning them and even telling people to leave the person alone. Showing remorse for her that shes getting hate, you can tell that its raw emotion from him. He is showing remorse for his actions in that situation and noticing why he was doing it. That is alot. Keep up the work Drake. Its a long road but you will feel better every mile you go down.

[@theisaacespino]

I was always afraid to become the fragmented human that did the same thing to me. Being neurodivergent and a survivor, I have always felt that my trauma was something that I needed to learn to "live" with as opposed to heal from it. It took me a long time to understand that I could get to the point where it doesn't have to control me anymore and I could move forward as opposed to having an eye always looking back. Man, this was such a blessing to hear. Thank you.

[@draynah14]

Just looking at all the previously sealed support letters written by well-known people in the industry, it makes sense why Hollywood and their lovely journalists wanted to silence Drake so badly. Knowing all this, it makes Drake an even braver person for speaking up.

[@InfoLunix]

Terrible things have happened to the guy and here he is, more mature, speaking out and opening his life to everyone. Owning his past and moving forward. 👏

[@bridony225]

I have listened to multiple interviews with Drake and this is the most authentic and real conversation. This is so powerful! Having a close guy friend who has experienced this and been unable to open up and talk to others about it, I think it is really such an important and encouraging conversation.

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you. Glad it resonated with you.

[@DayanaAcosta-kv7kd]

My mom went through something like this… from age 8-12 or 15 years old. I still remember when she shared that story with me I was in tears. How someone could be so cruel and think it’s okay to take a child’s innocence is so disgusting. I cannot put into words how much I look up to people like you and my mother. You guys have a different type of strength within ❤ sending you all lots of LOVE and POSITIVITY!!

[@seagurll]

I'm so sorry for what your mom was made to endure and I wish her the very best with her own healing. ❤❤

[@DawnGrimm]

36:26 My God when he was talking about cherishing love instead of worrying about it being gone, I felt that so deep. I sobbed instantaneously. My mother verbally, emotionally and mentally abused me my entire childhood and a good chunk of my adulthood. My first husband didn't necessarily verbally and mentally abuse me. He did step out on me every chance he had and I wasn't strong enough to stand up for myself because of the things my mother said to me as a child and adult. I finally did get the courage to leave. I am remarried now but my poor husband pays for the sins of my mother and my first husband. He is an extremely patient man who understands my past and thankfully don't hold some of my faults against me. One of my biggest ones is a constant belief that he doesn't really love me. We have been married for 23 years. I'm pretty sure if he didn't he probably would have walked away a long time ago, especially with my crazy issues.

[@wisbyemily]

I felt this too! ❤

[@berniceconklin5058]

My mother did the same thing to me mentally and verbally abused me She did it when I was in my teenage years when I was rebellious I'm 55 My mother had mental illness She was not a well person She passed away in 2018 when my daughter was 10 She is 32 I became a heroin addict I was an addict for 12 years I'm coming up on 10 years clean June 2nd I've been with my husband for 21 years I married the same man twice we separated for a year and got divorced I had 8 months clean and we got back together we remarried November 21st of 2021 he's the only man of ever been married too

[@iamjustathena]

Oh my goodness I started tearing up when he speaks up about the people thinking he’s bringing this up to become “popular” again, I couldn’t agree more. Thank you all for this. ❤

[@I3loom]

Dude. This is one of the best episodes. A lot of mind-blowing points brought up by everyone. Thanks so much for making this happen. I hope I can have a conversation with these beautiful humans one day.

[@Mariah6260]

I think they should've let Drake talk a little more. And just a reminder to EVERYONE, Drake has ALWAYS taken responsibility for the text messages and always owned up to that! He just doesn't appreciate all the false accusations & misinformation that's been going around.

[@montserrat919]

They didn’t let him talk, they guided the conversation to what they wanted him to say.

[@Mariah6260]

@montserrat919 I'm just glad they didn't trick him into saying something he didn't mean. I mean there's plenty of footage out there of his explanation, but still.

[@montserrat919]

@@Mariah6260, yes, but he seemed like he was having a hard time dealing with their questions. He’s just opening up about being a sexual abuse survivor and these people seemed to care more about that incident through text than his story and his pain.

[@tyeishaleisure]

@@montserrat919 just wanted to hug him at so many points. This interview left a bad taste in my mouth but not because of Drake. These 3 did not create a safe space. At many points it felt more like an uncomfortable interrogation. It broke my heart seeing how uncomfortable Drake was.

[@montserrat919]

@@tyeishaleisure, I felt the same way. Nobody should be treated like this. I was honestly surprised this happened in this show. I do not follow it nor watch it, but I am acquainted with Justin’s work, his book, and his philosophy. After watching this, I am not really sure he has understood his own ideas on men hurting and creating safe spaces for male victims.

[@Goldensouloutlaw]

What a great interview. I love how you really dived down into this topic without feeling like it was just for gossip. You handled this topic really well.

[@dKagasoffluva27]

Wow. He has such a life story. I don't care what anybody says, Drake Bell is my favorite celebrity. I really like him a lot. I am his biggest girl fan. Drake and Josh is a cool show.

[@patriciaedward6842]

This was incredibly generous of Drake to do. I can’t help but think this can feel re traumatizing and trapping.

[@tyeishaleisure]

I agree. They pushed him into conversations he clearly isn’t ready to have.

[@sallysweetman4854]

I am so glad that Drake could meet someone with the same experience who is doing so well and can support him so well😢

[@delix787]

I’m so happy Drake is getting the healing attention that he desperately needed after 20 years. 😢

[@samuelcrossman3302]

What an open and honest conversation! Love this one for sure. I love also what Justin said about “I” vs “you” being a form of deflection of self to self preserve one’s bodily autonomy after a violation of one’s body. Proud of you all, but especially Justin and Drake. And for Justin personally: I love your wisdom, love, empathy, and depth - you make people feel like they can belong and you never abandon them. I thank you so much!

[@daylestevens50]

I feel like you can see the wheels turning in his head and him really digging deep to answer questions. ❤ You can tell he is still early in this journey and he is being authentic. I hope the best for him as he heals. 🙏

[@pepito2847]

Drake’s speech about there always being good things to come despite how bad situations are Is inspiring to all different kinds of people who have their own kind of suffering Drake has my respect ✊

[@sanaburton9229]

Well, that's the second time I've cried over Drake Bell this week. I'm so proud of him, and have so much love and respect and support for him, and I hope he realises how important he is to so many people. Also, this is SUCH a good interview. Like, this is how you have empathy and compassion for someone while also holding them accountable, and its such a hard thing to do, as is holding YOURSELF accountable, but its also so so so important because that's the only way these cycles ever get broken. Also as a slight tangent, that thing about saying I rather than you... was not expecting this podcast to call ME out like that. Its a very good point though.

[@NikiLynn72882]

I relate to you so very much Drake Bell. You give me some kind of peace I never expected or thought possible

[@Nursejenni135]

Accepting love has been the hardest step in recovery to me. It takes time but you are worthy

[@Nursejenni135]

It took me years to even realize and verbalize this, much less admit my disbelief in my self worth. And we act out accordingly

[@Nursejenni135]

Sounds like a grown ass man response. ❤

[@Nursejenni135]

Healthy sex and relationships are almost impossible until you deal with all this. Beautiful empathy

[@pawlover1986]

I’m speechless. I grew up watching drake, and I’ve listened to his music since day one. I’m so happy he had this interview with these amazing people. Truly eye opening for me and helps me see how trauma affects people differently. Had tears in my eyes the whole time. Big big hugs to you drake, I’m so proud of you. ❤

[@Jackkjackk99]

What a fantastic interview, I love that there was Jamey there that Drake was able to connect with and feel even more comfortable sharing his story. I also love that you guys along this interview gave him some tips such as using “I” instead of you. Drake, you are a hero for so many victims going through this especially for young men. One day your son is going to know and see all this and know his dad is a hero. You are so strong, so brave and so compassionate in knowing what was done to you was horrific, but also to be aware of your mistakes and learn from them. We are all human and we can’t live life and grow as a person without making mistakes along the way.

[@jaelynarndt4852]

“You never had a chance to play with legos” made me start sobbing

[@chelseadaley9770]

I feel for drake so much for what trauma that he has had dealt with in his own life and how much emotional pain in his own eyes were in that documentary it really hit me so hard and down to see someone who has been through so much in their own life to not handle the agony of being afraid to open up their own story I couldn’t be so proud of him for coming out with his own truth and for being honest with himself way to go drake you derive more then anyone else in this world my heart goes out to you and you will always be here in my heart forever

[@janineliezl]

Hi Drake, I've been a fan of yours since "The Amanda Bynes Show" aired on Nickelodeon. To be honest, you were my first crush and first love. Since then, I've always eagerly waited for you to appear in "The Amanda Bynes Show" and watched every episode of "Drake and Josh." When I watched the documentary "Quiet on the Set," it really broke my heart. I'm truly sorry that you had to experience that as a child, being exposed to the abuse by a child predator. I know I'm just a fan, but I hope that reading this will bring you some comfort and help you erase those painful memories. I really wish I could give you a hug. 😢😔 Always remember that you have so many fans who will support and love you, not matter what happens. Everything will be okay! God will always be by your side to protect and guide you every day, no matter where you are.

[@GabrielMartinez-pe6ln]

No offense but did you try sending him your message to his instagram?

[@isendathinks7588]

I wish they let him talk more, too many interruptions, it felt almost condescending at times, you could sense his discomfort. But I liked the clarity they sought and there were many powerful moments. I also wish they knew more about the child endangerment issue beforehand, he handled it really well

[@sandrabo7734]

Agree! A little pushy. But drake did well!

[@efrainpalma3855]

Agreed

[@cheesyDELISH48]

I think Drake needed a little hand holding, which is what they were doing. I get the impression Drake was struggling because he's never been this candid or authentic on a public platform and especially with his CSA trauma

[@forevertimber]

@@cheesyDELISH48i agree! you can tell he's still choosing his words carefully, so as not to offend anyone, rather than totally owning his experience without fear of what others think.

[@cheesyDELISH48]

@forevertimber yeah even before Justin mentioned he was using "you" in place of "I" a lot, I could tell he was trying to generalize. He's like that whenever he talks about anything remotely personal. He's clearly lived most of his life feeling disconnected from himself which is why he struggles saying "I"

[@cindymuthike6516]

We often hear of people's stories and struggles when they have made it out to the other end, so what I loved most about this episode was that we are hearing from a person who is in the thick of it and actively working towards being in a better place...I think Drake is very brave for coming out and sharing because that is such a vulnerable place to be in ❤

[@lindsey5365]

We love you, Drake, I’ve been a fan of Drake since the Amanda show and also Drake and Josh. Watching him and the headlines of what he’s done in the past really had me struggling to see what was going on just like Amanda Bynes my favorite actress. When things came into light and the more interviews I watched over and over and seeing him own up to What he’s done in his past, but also how he’s holding himself accountable shows courage, and he’s willing to make changes. His story is inspiring to other people who have also been in his situation. He deserves a new beginning he is forgiven and we know that moving forward he will continue make better decisions not only for himself, but for his family too.

[@tinkerbellgrad]

The road to healing from trauma is a lifelong journey, this is a great step in the right direction. Don’t give up, keep going!!

[@loveandpeace7695]

Drake you are a blessing to all the victims who are silent out there. Men and boys tend to keep abuse quiet and rarely share their problems with anyone. Drake you are giving courage to the victims out there . Much love and Gods blessings to you!

[@letahamilton]

I hope Drake reads these comments & sees how much support there is for him here. It is no easy path & I think child stardom sucks & a bunch of bullshit

[@Feemailgamer]

He's not using it as a come back... He's coming back and bringing with him his truth ❤

[@emmielozada2815]

Yeah, curse those people who think he’s using it as a comeback!

[@mikitamallma]

"And it doesn't leave... BUT IT DOESN'T CONTROL ME ANYMORE".

[@kaylalong2929]

I was groomed by my step brother from the time I was 4 untill I was grown. He molested me first when I was 7 and by the time I was 15 it turned so rape. He was 27 when he first molested me. I didn’t tell anyone for years he made me felt like what he was doing was love as sick as that sounds I thought I loved him. It didn’t stop untill I was 18 an got married when I realized how bad it was. My family hated me when I told them. He admitted to everything an went to prison. I was on drugs for a long time trying to cope but I’m 29 now and 7 years clean. still don’t talk to my mother I found out she was also sleeping with her step son who was raping me and she hated me for it she blamed me for it an for getting him in trouble and getting him sent him away. It’s a screwed up situation that u still dealing with with today but each day gets better I’m a mom of 3 I’ve been married 10 years I go to church I coach t ball. Life gets better drake everyone is super proud of you for speaking your truth! ❤

[@Dylanthestudent]

You are an inspiration and a gem of person. Thank you for overcoming a situation you never needed or deserved and being a better person for it, people like yourself give me hope in such a screwed up world.

[@linds7032]

Drake, you're a remarkable man. So self aware and intelligent. Thank you for your vulnerability while sharing your story! You're changing lives and many peoples perspectives and I applaud you. You are what I call a real man. Sending you love xx 🙏🏼✝

[@AphrosAnimation]

The girl was a child who got hurt and Drake was an adult who acted recklessly and didn't do his due diligence. He takes responsibility for this. Let's also remember that these dynamics, including the invention of social media, is brand new and we are all navigating it for the first time. As somebody who was groomed, this doesn't sound like it at all. Grooming is calculated. This sounds like a mistake.

[@Oceaniac]

I hope more people can recognise that this is a mistake from Drake’s side. I could be wrong, but perhaps a part of him is afraid to admit that? Because it’s easy to point and say “how can an adult make such a stupid mistake!” Adults make stupid mistakes all the time. And Drake did not even once excuse any of his behaviour even though his intentions weren’t malicious. It also seems like Drake doesn’t necessarily want to talk about her anyway because the situation caused him pain because of some of the stories she claims to be true, but it also hurt a minor and that makes him feel uncomfortable as he is directly responsible for that, despite not intending to hurt anyone. The guilt he has is not the same type of guilt a typical p*do would have. P*dos excuse their behaviour and justify it, but also try to hide and as you said, they are calculating since they need to groom their victims. Drake was careless in who he was messaging. But honestly his story is kinda cliche in the sense that, people who are hurt turn to the internet for validation and speak to people to make themselves feel better. If a regular person were to message someone and learn that we shouldn’t be speaking to them, it’s easy for us to block them, delete out presence from the site/internet and move on. The problem is that he has a celebrity status, and people can use that against him to get some money or take revenge for being rejected.

[@draynah14]

Yes, he repeatedly said how stupid and reckless his actions were in several interviews and I wish more people would realize that he has never tried to minimize what he actually did, but rather tried to defend himself from the misinformation about his case that was spread on the internet by KZbinrs and news outlets like NY Times for example. Btw, NY Times has recently retracted the misinformation where they falsely claimed he had to register as a sex offender.

[@surprisinglyawake1]

​@@draynah14there's a new KZbin video once again calling him a predator and it already has 35k views. : (

[@tyeishaleisure]

@@Oceaniac this. I don’t think people are wanting to understand the complexity. He should have verified the girls age if it was possible to do so before finding out that she lied, but that’s really the only mistake he made. Drake has stated under interviews that being labeled and abuser and predator is extremely hurtful and triggering for him. People were ready to jump on that bandwagon before knowing what actually happened and before all the information came out.

[@Oceaniac]

Amazing interview. Drake has a good heart. Whenever he teared up, I teared up. I wish I could give him a big hug. The hosts of the podcast deserve a ton of praise as well. Phenomenal.

[@sludgedisciple]

One of the things that people didn't mention a lot with Chester Bennington was that besides using drugs and alcohol he was an adult male survivor of childhood sexual abuse. I don't think you can separate those things.

[@ashleythompson8243]

When people shame Chester for ending his life, it shows they don’t grasp the war that man was fighting with his own mind and self worth for over 30 years due to his abuse/trauma. Eventually, when you don’t properly address and heal from these things, not existing seems so much better than the daily turmoil your brain puts you through with every second of existence 💔

[@sludgedisciple]

@@ashleythompson8243 Anyone who listened to the things he said in his lyrics or the pain he had in his voice when he screamed, could tell it was on the level. What Mr. Bell is doing takes a tremendous amount of courage and strength. and what Jamie said is true, someone out there hasn't dealt with this and might just because of what he is talking about. It's important.

[@Mitchthemysteryman]

Wow! Geez, I wasn’t aware of that.

[@coolitsnatalie]

this reminded me of linkin park song lyrics that hits close to home for me and get stuck in my head sometimes… “Crawling in my skin These wounds, they will not heal”

[@ll2323]

When I listen to live in texas, I truly hear his pain. It’s like he was trying to tell us the entire time.

[@RVALotus1]

As a survivor of sexual abuse, as a child and raped as a teenager , this interview hit home. When you asked have you ever felt enough, tears came because it is a truth that you don’t ever feel enough. I wish you peace and healing ❤️‍🩹

[@bratty_31]

Drake and Aaron Carter always had my heart. I could see their pain 😢 I am so damn proud of him. I hope Aaron is smiling down 😭♥️♥️♥️

[@tiffiniwalpole8956]

Literally exactly the same!! 😭😭😭

[@reliza93]

Smiling down from where? Please!

[@Photik]

Rip Aaron Carter 2022.. I didn't even know. ​@@reliza93

[@JenniferPoole.33272]

@@reliza93 Heaven

[@Martha.rose2000]

Drake seems like one of the strongest guys I've ever seen. Just based on his story and hearing him tell about his car accident in the early 2000's. He seems to put others first and is so humble. :)

[@SunsetJuliette]

Long story short: I was groomed as a child by an older man and experienced a lot of SA and severe trauma. Drake, thank you SO much for putting yourself out there like this because I cannot even imagine discussing the details of my own traumas to the entire world. Those who haven't experienced SA cannot fathom the amount of courage this takes. I have never received proper therapy. I just try to survive each day. I wish I could message you because you described my feelings and I feel so alone. Thank you.

[@dietogain1990]

I was nine. He was my best friends brother. They didn't understand why I didn't want to come over anymore. They thought it was them. It wasn't. I remember the fear of his mom pulling up in the suv trying to get me to come to the park with them but I was scared to tell anyone. He said he would hurt my mom if I told. I didn't tell until I was 16. And I found out the same thing happened with my brother. He told me how it happened to him to protect me from my mom who was angry and upset and didn't know what to do.

[@SunsetJuliette]

​@@dietogain1990 I'm sorry for what happened to you. I totally get it and totally understand it. The man who did this to me has never been held accountable for his evil because he threatened me with a gun and told me he would come kill my family and I in our sleep if I ever told anyone. As a child this terrified me to my core. After the abuse he continued to harass me for years, including while I was at my job. He would drive his car while I was walking and almost hit me. My parents and I went to the police and they told us they couldn't do anything unless he physically does something to me. So he was free to harass me for years. I didn't tell the police about the SA. I didn't tell anyone about the SA until I was 27.

[@dietogain1990]

@@SunsetJuliette he took me behind the gas station put me to my knees sodomized me and told me he would kill my mom the gas station he took me behind was my mom's job I was terrified.

[@emmabraun5232]

I feel so much for Drake he is a very strong person and he such a fighter he is inspiring for his story

[@KhroMcKrakken]

This is my first time watching this podcast and I've never seen a more healthy conversation. Accountability over blame. This is very therapeutic and it's beautiful.

[@cocoacarly]

This was an amazing podcast! I love hearing people speak like this and encouraging others to speak like this. I feel like I’ve found my people. Great interview. The encouragement of honesty, vulnerability, and authenticity is beautiful.

[@kikirae8048]

When he put his hand on drakes shoulder, offering that connection, and said “I’m on that same journey” Wow that was powerful. I love seeing men bridging that “toxic masculinity” and allowing contact for connection and sharing feelings and healing. This was so incredible thank you for the episode and sharing

[@belentorres4909]

Hearing, these child SA survivors as one, their voice shake and push forward through bravery, is validating. These conversations are difficult but need to be shared! I hope this interview reaches millions of survivors and children still in this situation. This coming forward is monumental, hopefully will push better protections around children and change our political and social climates. There is so much honesty and growth in Drake’s words, it’s powerful. It even gives my healing self feel power, when as a survivor have felt powerless or felt shame. Thank you Drake and We Are Man Enough cast for your vulnerability ❤❤❤❤

[@abbiarguello4969]

YESSSS I WANTED HIM TO COME ON THIS PODCAST SO BAD!!! The exact ppl he needed to talk to!

[@itspaulasiqueira]

I really doubted for a while there, but Drake is really trying to be better and make amends for the bad things he's done while also healing from trauma. This was so powerful and beautiful to see. I really really hope Drake finds the healing he deserves.

[@keishaabreu393]

I hope everyone sees this interview, you can tell Drake is a good person because he's willing to hold himself accountable.

[@_rigormortis]

Wonderful interview. I think Drake needed this type of sit down to help him heal. ❤

[@branddrivenipad4772]

What a beautiful example of an intentional and constructive conversation. I wish that my ex-husband had a group of men that could help him navigate through his emotions and provide a compassionate mirror.

[@esm1817]

Yes. My husband had one for a while. But no one came. It takes a very committed group of men, I guess.

[@JenniferPoole.33272]

It is. And I wish that too. And I wish my friend had a group of me that could and would help him. He never told anyone except me (I’m female) and our boss, who’s also female. My friend was rap*d by his stepdad when he was 10.

[@Gamer-will]

I love these people being there for Drake this interview was really perfect for him. Stay strong Drake we love you man ✊❤

[@3gsalinas]

This hit home! My heart goes to Drake and so proud of him to open up and share his struggles and what he went through. Thank you!!

[@michelleshade2598]

Drake, if you read this. First I’m sorry you were hurt, tortured by this monster. I too was abused, raped. I’m 50 and it affects me everyday.. Second thank you for being a voice for others, this monster has to be stopped, telling your story does make a difference. My heart hurts for the things you have been through.. I’m so proud of you for getting help. Praying for your continued recovery and healing

[@Photik]

Hope you heal from your wounds. 🙏

[@michelleshade2598]

@@Photikthank you I was 4,5,6 and 10 Trust is almost impossible Faith is equally so The words I love you never seem real, I don’t understand why.. but i have been healing..

[@Photik]

@@michelleshade2598 everyone has trauma. Just know that you are not alone, my brother. I wish you well on your journey. Be what you needed when you were younger.

[@AlekasAttic]

Drake is such a fuckin' G dude. I LOVE HIM SO MUCH SUPPORT FOR THIS MAN

[@Gurl89467]

Definitely some direct questions & conversations, people need to remember that we’re all watching these podcasts/interviews because were following drakes story. You may not like or appreciate the interviewers techniques or methods but these are individual to their target audience or style. We know what happened to drake, I don’t think he is in a place to be more specific than he has been so looking at his experience from different conversations may help him to overcome the challenges going on in different aspects of his life that have/are being affected because of his trauma. Anyone who says he is speaking now for his career clearly as nothing better to do, to open up about what happened on such a public forum must have been so daunting and it’s a pandoras box that can’t be closed again. It must be so overwhelming and I think we need to remember that drakes still in the early stages of his recovery in dealing with everything and the more he talks about what happened (publicly and privately) he remembers more that he’d blocked out which he then needs to work through. Why don’t, if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything all!

[@totalvalentain]

drake, I don’t know if you realize how strong you are. you are amazing

[@serenitybeauty]

What a profound and healing conversation. As someone who is a survivor, this is very therapeutic for me.

[@zarahshabir3492]

This was so enlightening Thank you to drake for sharing and being open to what everyone on the podcast had to say and to take it with him And thank you to jamie, Justin, Liz for how you navigated the conversation. Great listen

[@reeree5259]

I didn't watch Nickelodeon, but bless this man. May you experience more and more healing as you share your story.❤

[@mariellakoechl3609]

I love how much space you all give each other to fully explain your thoughts and just let everyone talk, even when there are pauses, but don´t interrupt or jump into anothers sentence. Lots of love to everyone!

[@taylorchameleon]

i am so in awe of this conversation. you can see the growth in Drake; he is not excusing or sugarcoating any of his past mistakes, & you can actively see him learning how to cope & heal from his childhood. it's quite remarkable. really proud of him & I hope he can continue to grow & find peace 💗

[@beanybabyrabie]

Yes he is. He’s dishonest and minimizing. Virtually all of us can identify someone is underage from photos and he even told her to hurry up aka become legal when he knew her age.