Jeffrey Sachs, Taibbi: How The West DESTROYED Russia

[@breakingpoints]

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[@Oshowski]

try talking to Tomothy Snyder, but that just probably won't play with your simplistic version on Ukraine and Russia . You guys just hold on to one narrative. US is an evil empire, but forgett Russia is too.

[@commoditygames1410]

How much did Russia pay you to make this video?

[@Dapaker]

​@@commoditygames1410 Loser

[@markp6621]

It's interesting finding how many elder statesmen feel the same as Mr Sachs. In my own country of Australia : recently deceased ex Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser from the conservative side... kzbin.info/www/bejne/op2rcnSlnM1lkNU . Fraser also gave an excellent interview directly to RT almost 10 years ago... which was also chillingly prescient. On the Labor side, Paul Keating is also blunt in his much more entertaining way... on Ukraine, and also Ukraine and AUKUS.

[@phillyyardyvibes808]

​@commoditygames1410 how much the the deep state pay to spam? JAY Z SAID numbers don't lie check the score board. Either that are you are docile

[@threeballedtomcat9380]

I am 67 years old, lived through Viet Nam , and didn't know that the Viet Nam war was actually started by a lie, a "False Flag" operation in the Gulf of Tonkin until the mid 1980s. The deeper you look at what America has been doing since WW 2 the worse it gets. America is the country of perpetual war , and when the Neocons and the Military Industrial Complex started in the Middle East in 1991 it was obvious. America has been involved in a long series of epic failures, we are 35 trillion dollars in the hole now yet we continue to fund NATO and Ukraine even while our veterans are homeless and can't get decent medical treatment. Thanks for uploading this, there is a lot of information that a lot of people need to hear and fully understand...

[@PeterLamin-pi6rv]

The empire of lies 😂😂😂😂

[@vincentmcdermott3412]

So Russia did not INVADE Ukraine after all? Right……..

[@paulsansonetti7410]

Thanks a trillion for your honesty homie Kudos for being willing and able to face facts and admit the truth,such a shame it's not more commonplace Be safe and be well sir

[@robertnitschke1649]

i am 65 my father told me the como's were coming to get us thats why we went to Viet Nam .USA has just gone from one war to the next and then years later you find out it was a lie and its all about control .here in Australia we are told that china is a threat . but china has never turned up with a army and threaten us . they come here to trade .sadly the USA thinks it owns the planet and wants to control it by use of wars and sanctions

[@liveontheverandah]

It’s a mindset and philosophy and it began in Europe in Medieval times- Norman invasion of England>growth of British Hegemony and conquest> British empire> American Empire (with UK as a junior partner). William ‘The conqueror’ said on his deathbed “I treated the native inhabitants of the kingdom with unreasonable severity, cruelly oppressed high and low, unjustly disinherited many and caused the death of thousands by starvation and war” (he probably didn’t actually say that but the gist of the matter is thy the British system was built on oppression and cruelty). There have been other empires as we know and they all operate with brutality. Many believe it is human nature and inevitable. Time we evolved past this lie- there are other ways forward that are far more intelligent and enlightened.

[@jasonanernathy5721]

There was a rock concert in Moscow 1991 with Metallica and other American bands. 1.6 million Russian attended. It's safe to say that the Russian people wanted better relationships with the US. what a missed opportunity 😕

[@tsl0073]

The Russian people were never the problem, Russian leaders are, going back to the tzars

[@Simon-d]

sociological data tells that 80% of Russians viewed USA in a positive way in the early 90s. it went down to 50% by end of century with the Yugoslavia bombing and the first wave of NATO expansion. it's 10% now.

[@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns]

The breakdown for Pantera's "Domination" was so heavy that it collapsed the Soviet Union.

[@AD-lh3jk]

Holy gods of rock, you weren’t kidding I looked it up and the images are crazy 1.6 mill is a stupid amount of people

[@eurojamie]

That was also a CIA op, as observed firsthand by the MTV VJ on the ground (an in the airplane enroute) at the time.

[@Perspectiveon]

I'm a former NATO allied Army Major and Analyst. Served in multiple countries incl. Balkans, Kuwait, Iraq and former Soviet republic of Tadjikistan during most of the 90s. Totally agree with J. Sachs account. I left the Army disillusioned after 20 years in 2003 for this very reason. Thx having him on the show to tell the story.

[@nebojsanesic5603]

[@cDTeVe]

… and thank you for giving boots on the ground confirmation… 🙌🏾

[@ttexastt]

"Nato allied" Lol totally meaningful and super necessary

[@Tressco]

You're not alone Know this guy?: “War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes. In the World War [I] a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. (…) I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a Dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-12. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras “right” for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested. (...) I spent 33 years in active military service as a member of the Marine Corps. I served from 2nd Lt. to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism... Looking back, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three city districts. We Marines operated on three continents.“ - Major-General Smedley Butler ("War Is A Racket" & Common Sense Magazine, 4/11, November 1935)

[@SusanCahill-fb6ey]

Proud of you,your heart was in the right place,which is a crime against all soldiers who were trying hard in difficult time vMy brave and wonderful Father was in the Korean war, he loved those kidsvand had pictures of them with American soldiers boots on. My heart breaks,his job was to take money off the dead soldiers bodies and mail it to their loved ones. Unbelievable . God bless you.

[@marenomorgan]

I have so much respect for Jeffrey Sachs. He was one of the few people to speak up during at the UN Food Systems summit criticizing the event's sponsorship by Coca-Cola, Hershey, etc and calling attention to the danger of corporate capture in the food system. He was so bold and passionate, and I'll forever respect what this man has to say. Someone who really speaks truth to power.

[@dano9008]

Sachs has failed up his whole career, but as an anti-establishment whiner, he revived his "career." It takes no courage to pander to the left, there is plenty of money to spend subsidizing such people. The CCP and Russia would happily pay him well for his derision of the west, but he is such a fool they don't even have to.

[@raincadeify]

Interesting. I'm not that bought in to Taibbi's overly sympathetic view of Russia/Putin, but all in on how capitalism and hegemony permeate US world view. Not familiar with Jeffrey Sachs. You've peaked my curiosity.

[@bryan.bayesian]

​@@raincadeifywelcome to the desert of the unreal

[@moudzy1446]

Thank you, Professor Sachs, for delivering an outstanding education that, regrettably, many, including our Western leaders, lack. Your tireless efforts are deeply appreciated. It is my sincere hope that you will be considered for a position in the next presidential cabinet, where your expertise could significantly contribute to reshaping U.S. strategy.

[@bonniepannell9722]

My thoughts exactly.

[@sobdjs]

Thank you for inviting Prof. Sachs on your show.

[@marions7423]

kuchma government created olgarch system boy after sachs advices to ukraine and russia roaring 90-s he should be tried in nuremebrg just look at the deaths of milliions of people and demographic abyss 90-s created

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

Sachs has inflicted more damage to Russian citizens than anyone outside of Russia with his shock doctrine. Look it up. He’s the last person anyone should be listening to.

[@Decade-c9k]

Professor Sachs is silent on the topic of Ukrainian children abducted by Russia (look up Sasha Radchuck or Rostislav Lavrov). I would not trust his opinion on the Ukraine-Russia issue.

[@Bike_Lion]

Yes, it's certainly quite refreshing! I had actually unsubbed from this channel in early 2022, due to their coverage of the conflict being so completely misleading and one-sided, so this discussion here is really a breath of fresh air....Would have been great to have had here two and a half years ago, but better late than never!

[@LaplacianDalembertian]

btw, Fuhrer Elenski is a moron. "Nice" move, with his invasion he gave Russia full legal allowance to nuke Ukraine into ground zero. And it will be not only legal, but also justified, because all he wants is to be a victim. He will be granted that.

[@paulkindlon5496]

I lived in Moscow from 1992-2017. Dr. Sachs has evolved overtime and has the courage to face the truth which - when it comes to Russia -is very. much hidden from the American people

[@andreimustata5922]

He brings some things which are hidden from the American people but he also brings a lot of bullshit. The first time when I heard him talking about the importance to find a peace agreement I thought he was serious. However when I start hearing him talking nonsense about stopping arming Ukraine I understood that the peace he was talking about was one in which Ukraine ceases to exist as an independent country. He claims to care about people who die in Ukraine but he certainly doesn't seem to care about what these people want.

[@LawrenceMohlala-dh3zi]

​@@andreimustata5922you are the biggest bullshit because you don't listen to what the Prof is saying, the reason why he said Ukraine was not to be armed is because he wanted to avoid the war

[@macrosense]

Ukraine was not an independent nation so much as a U.S. client state riddled in corruption and in a state of civil war.

[@anonosaurus4517]

​@@andreimustata5922And if Ukraine exists only as a Western/NATO client, is it then still an independent state?

[@Yodalemos]

​@@anonosaurus4517considering the rest of Europe gets labeled that way too and they have a better Quality of Life than the US, that would likely be better for Ukraine than being part of the Russian Empire. So; yes. Personally, I think we can get to a peace agreement without making Ukraine part of NATO or letting Russia take it.

[@MarcIverson]

One of the best guests you've ever had.

[@joethao2161]

I'm so glad to see Pro. Jeffery Sachs on this show. Awesome interview!!!!

[@jayron02001]

Fascinating history presented by Mr. Sachs. Russia could have been our friend and ally. Instead, we (the U.S.) forced them into becoming our enemy.

[@vvinterghost]

so true

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

weaker are never friends or allies, no major power has any friends

[@LaplacianDalembertian]

As usual, this transition from friend of Russia into foe, didn't come easily. It is bringing internal transformation of US on the inside. I'm just looking what great distance is between Obama and Biden, and Biden is definitely looking more like Fuhrer. It seems to me, US can become new Nazi Germany in near future.

[@7QHook]

no, not 'we the US', but the neocons. the ones supporting Harris.

[@HeyHappy-xu4oo]

It all started when the golden standard was abolished after the WWII and the sole purpose of the United States government became maintaining the dollar as the main currency in the world.

[@mmaximk]

Excellent segment. It would be great to hear an extended conversation with Matt Taibi and professor Sachs.

[@rdbt292]

Jeffrey Sachs (& other superb guests who were in key roles & still have contacts) is a regular on "Judging Freedom". Best truth show on youtube

[@Robert-n5t9v]

It is nice to hear professor Sachs telling the true history.

[@hatuxka]

I was in Ukraine and Russia for weeks in 1992, 93, 94. No one we heard from was optimistic about what was going on. They were not fooled and were disdainful but resigned to survival mode. They would quietly point out the absurdities they were seeing and or answer our questions about stuff we noticed. I couldn’t witness all that and observe their “wiseness” deep level of education and quiet resolution to face their difficulties and even joke about what they clearly didn’t like and not come away deeply respecting them as a population and even loving them.

[@yaelz6043]

And that's why you repeat every word goebbels ever said about Russia?

[@jerryboics9550]

I always hear about Chinese state run media, Russian state run media. But we just call our state run media "western media"

[@andreimustata5922]

It is true that the government influences media quite a bit in the west too, but here usually journalists don't end up dead or in jail for speaking truth to power. You just don't appreciate the difference because you never lived in an authoritarian state.

[@1antoniov1]

So Breaking Points is US state media ? Do you really think that Breaking Point would be allowed in Russia ?

[@darinsingleton3553]

AS always, "Looking for news in the Corporate-media is like looking for love in a brothel. Not saying it can't happen. Just that it comes at a price.”

[@thedebatemechannel4746]

"media" it's just what we call our competition. For example breaking points is not the media. They're just normal people like you and I talking to us about the news. They don't have any profit incentives like mainstream media so we can trust them unlike the evil "the media" that is the devil. What are the most popular propaganda lines in this country is to be in the media referring to the media in the third person as if you're above it all....​@@1antoniov1

[@thedebatemechannel4746]

@@darinsingleton3553 is Breaking Points Incorporated? What is so bad about corporate media? Is it because they are focused on profits? Good thing independent media doesn't care about profits....

[@lavendereucalyptus3225]

Prof Sachs is a hero of truth, honesty and wisdom. Thank you for inviting him on. 👍🙏 His recent interview with Tucker Carlson is a must watch.

[@richcleland6008]

Thank you for this interview. The military industrial complex looked at the collapse of the Soviet Union and worried about losing budget and prestige to the peace deficit. they're not going to give you a trillion dollars a year unless you create a lot of instability to justify it.

[@daal7767]

Ty for letting him talk

[@zubaidafaridi4544]

Dr Sachs is a serious person with real expertise. That is a scarce commodity these days.

[@Sticks-of-TNT-tf1tn]

Jeffrey Sachs is brilliant, honest, passionate, and he’s extremely knowledgeable about the situation, circumstances and background of Ukraine and Russia because he was personally involved there as an advisor to national leaders and governments for decades, particularly during the fall of the Soviet Union in the late 80’s and early 90’s. After following him for years, I assure you, if Jeffrey Sachs says something, you can take it to the bank. As a former U.S. Army officer, I think Professor Sachs is a great man. *Importantly, he’s also a peacemaker.* 🧨 P.S. I also have a high regard for Matt Taibbi. As a journalist living in Russia during the tumultuous nineties, Matt has a great deal of “boots on the ground” level insight about that country during one of its most difficult decades.

[@andreimustata5922]

Unfortunately the only peacemaking he wants to do would be one in which Ukraine would cease to exist as an independent country. I appreciated the first time when I heard Sachs speaking about the need of a peace deal till I heard that he thought that US should stop arming Ukraine. Then I understood what kind of peace that would be.

[@Quoxozist]

funny how all the sachs and taibbi detractors and critics always seem to fail to mention the fact that both of these were literally THERE when this all went down, and have a considerably better grasp on the history of the region than most of their critics who think that this conflict began with the russian invasion of the donbass.

[@Vikingpoints]

Not even close

[@010O]

@@andreimustata5922 so the whole show went over your head?

[@andreimustata5922]

@@010O He speaks about Russia as if it is not an active participant in the war. I understand that part of the critic about US is correct. Especially the part about the 90's, but there is so much bullshit in what he says..

[@Lll20498]

Love hearing from Sachs. I know him from Judge Nap. His insight is revelatory. God bless him for continuing to speak on this instead of shrinking into the background. We need to learn from history and we need to stop making the same mistakes.

[@pla9012]

He needs to put some proof on the table, about the things he said, the things he did...or claims he said and did...that was meant to help Rus. I lived in Russia in 1992 as well and it seems Sachs was just as complicit in the whole scam as everyone else. Where are the letters, the papers, the trails that show the things he claims

[@lavendereucalyptus3225]

Sachs had a long in depth interview conversation with Tucker Carlson recently, it’s a must watch. 👍

[@uncletoogie]

Thanks Clinton and all your lousy administrators.

[@50_Pence]

'let the markets decide'. Working out so well 😂

[@torisven]

did you listen, it was bush cheney

[@Joshcodes808]

Let’s not leave out Bush 1.0, Bush 2.0, and Obama (really sec Clinton).

[@uncletoogie]

@@torisven Boris Yeltsin ruled from 91 to 99 idjit

[@SEKreiver]

@@torisven You might check your dates. Yes, Clinton was right in the middle of it. His cronies got RICH.

[@penabler]

Thanks for getting Sachs and Taibbi together.

[@peterstafford4426]

They both should be on Putin's payroll.

[@penabler]

@@peterstafford4426 and you should be kept away from sharp objects

[@peterstafford4426]

@@penabler Taibbi goes on Fox News all the time to attack Dems. He is a fascist. And Sachs is lying about the Soviet Union.

[@MarcIverson]

@@peterstafford4426 Nice to meet you, someone who swallows party-line nonsense hook, line, and sinker.

[@peterstafford4426]

@@MarcIverson Taibbi lies all the time. He lied during a congressional hearing. He pumped out BS from Musk.

[@DonnyV77]

The US said we can have War Profits or World Peace. War Profit it is!

[@shelbzillathrilla]

Sadly these misaligned incentives inflict all societies and until we solve food and energy scarcity these rivalrous dynamics will persist

[@DonnyV77]

@@shelbzillathrilla It has nothing to do with food or energy. For the US it's about power. The power to be the ruler of the world and not be questioned.

[@tomtube1012]

@@shelbzillathrilla If we really care about solving energy scarcity, we wouldn't be complaining about China's "overcapacity" of solar panels and place tariffs. If we really cared about energy scarcity and global warming, we would welcome as many low-cost solar panels as we can get.

[@tomtube1012]

@@shelbzillathrilla If we really cared, we would be saying : "Good, build even more solar panels and make them cost even less so we can be less dependent on fossil fuel."

[@phillyyardyvibes808]

​@@DonnyV77and to steal resources ; to continue modern day subtle colonization

[@Zygfryd1909]

Always a pleasure to hear from Professor J. Sachs, thank you!

[@OBrandt-i5c]

Prof.Sachs.......the absolute best in analyzing international happenings !

[@sarrrfarrr]

Reading Jeff Sachs books changed my life.

[@wtice4632]

Which book?

[@anthonyelwick3600]

I remember when dr sach was on Morning Joe all the time they won't have him on now 😂

[@subject_7]

CNN once did that with a certain outspoken black pastor who spoke about sin. They never called him back again.🤣

[@patrickirwin3662]

Having Sachs on is huge for BP/CP. My repect went back up bigtime. I had similar prejudices when I first encountered Sachs some years ago: ultimate insider, must be a snake. He has completely won me over with facts and sober, good hearted analysis. His voice and experience is necessary right this minute. Extremely important. Thank you.

[@questionmark7045]

Sachs reiterates every single Russian propaganda talking point. When he says that the USSR was wrongfully viewed by the USA in 1940 as an Enemy you can easily spot a manipulatory Liar. USSR was subjugating and killing hundreds of thousands of people in Central and Eastern European countries by that time - how stupid it is to claim the USSR was seeking peace?!

[@MarcIverson]

Strongly agree. This program just took a big step up.

[@badomen9057]

I have mainly listened to him over the last year or two and I agree that he is very good

[@gregmiller9957]

I couldn't get through this. Help me out - did he at any point mention the wishes of the majority of the people of Ukraine to have closer ties with the West and not with Russia? Also, did he talk about Finland joining Nato out of fear of a Russian invasion? Did he mention that two things can be true at the same time - The USA meddling in international affairs and that the people of Ukraine mostly wanting Russia out of their affairs?

[@andreimustata5922]

@@badomen9057 I agree with his comments about the mistake in not helping Russia in the 90s but his analysis about what happens today is complete bullshit. Listening to him it seems that Russia is not even part of the conflict and if US would stop interfering Ukraine would have a bright future. The truth is that without the support of US, Ukraine would not be an independent country anymore. Sometime helping a country defend itself against occupation is both in the political interest of the US and the right thing to do. Sachs is so much disillusioned with US that he doesn't understand that in the absence of US the situation now in Europe would be dire.

[@roboatnick6178]

Prof Sachs is honest, smart, and direct. Just what’s in desperately short supply these days.

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you. Look up what that sociopath did to Russia and Bolivia with his shock doctrine. The guy is slime.

[@alveolate]

seriously, we need MORE 40min in-depth segments, with more to-and-fro between guests who are VERY informed specialists on the subject at hand.

[@grovellingdogs]

Spectacular interview, and so grateful you brought Jeffrey Sachs and Matt Taibbi together to have this conversation. Keep bringing us this quality content... it is the kind of interactions we so rarely find in the media world anymore.

[@Redrio]

I wish this guy taught US History to me in high school back in 2007

[@carsi7282]

Have you read Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States? It teaches US history from a differnt perspective. Or Daniel Ellsberg's The Doomsday Machine or Secrets: Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers

[@Quoxozist]

@@carsi7282 all great reads, highly recommended

[@macrosense]

One thing I learned in high school history classes is that American teenagers care very little about history, even when they try to pass the classes.

[@Yomi4D]

​@@macrosenseSomeday, we'll all care because circumstances would dictate.

[@mnemonija]

​@@carsi7282peoples history is the one to read.

[@nualamartyn4918]

Well done to have Jeffrey Sachs on, what an incredibly informative and intelligent guest and so articulate ...... Americans have been lied to for so long now, we need to share the awful truth of US abysmal foreign policy and how completely reckless it has become

[@peoplesrecords2593]

Helping a sovereign county is reckless? Do you want Russia to take over Ukraine? How about Montenegro? Putin has his eyes on all former USSR countries. If not now, when should we stop Russia? This has been a disaster for Russia. It has expanded NATO and impacted the economy of his country. Most Russia want to live in peace and do not support the invasion.

[@ryanwalters6184]

He is a fraud just like your Post

[@РондаЛиПомогаева]

Unfortunately that will never happens. They rewrite history and make Hollywood movies to promote them as heros not the villan. The sad truth is people in the US believe the version.

[@falcoperegrinus2292]

9:30 - US never ended the cold war against Russia, betrayed Gorbachev and Yeltsin. 23:50 - Putin wanted normal relations, but expansion of NATO, destruction of Yugoslavia, US withdrawls from ABM treaty in 2002, invades Iraq in 2003, added seven countries to NATO in 2007, and in 2008 announced expansion to Georgia and Ukraine, 2011 - overthow Libya and attempt at Syria, 2014 begin Ukraine gambit

[@lembergnative7731]

horseshit.

[@outdoorloser4340]

Jeff is a great voice of reason on this topic 👍

[@TheFatblob25]

This is a fascinating & highly illuminating conversation.

[@KamalShariff]

A scholar of integrity and with a heart (conscience).

[@LynetteWright-s1r]

Every American needs to hear this truth. I am so over our Gov't crying Russia, Russia, Russia.

[@annaweiers2947]

Good to see Jeff Sachs on your show, he’s the best!

[@johnathanscott2672]

This needs to be included in bold type in the history books of every Secondary school across North America, South America, Europe and Australia’s. How could the political leaders in the West imagine they could punish Russia as Germany was punished after WW1 and not avoid the disaster we see now in Ukraine, Georgia and now expanding to Iran and North Korea. This did not have to happen.

[@Aberger789]

You do remember that in 1939, "Russia" allied with Hitler and invaded Eastern Poland. This revisionist, victimization of Russia is disgusting. Why the hell should the west provide fiscal stability to a kleptocracy that, to this day, undermines diplomacy and the integrity of democratic processes across the world.

[@ClownCarCoup]

Yes it did have to happen. Read Russian history. They will not be content unless they can dominate their region.

[@dontbelievethehype5013]

​@@ClownCarCoup your name check's out 🤡🤡🤡

[@Theone-bc7tr]

​@@ClownCarCoupright title there clown 🤡

[@catadoxas]

@@ClownCarCoup the US seeks to dominate the world. literally to the coast of china and the Russian hinterlands. yes they are a great power. but far less agressive historically than say france, england or spain or the US, name a single time in its entire 1000 year history Russia attacked another European great power without having been attacked first or in the 5 years prior by said power. it just never happened. and I say that as a german

[@maburto]

Watching this interview is like watching Starship Troopers where you see how much your own side is the fascist bully casting the role of its enemy.

[@benoitbourque344]

Imagine if there was such a thing as "debt cancelation" for citizens who have been destroyed by cost of living, inflation and overtaxation😢

[@riocox6445]

You would be forgiving consumption fueled debt in that case. I imagine it would be a disaster. The debt restructuring of a company or country is so that it can go on to produce not consume.

[@benoitbourque344]

@@riocox6445 good point friend 🤔

[@sharleyazenfisher8604]

Michael Hudson's book Forgive them their Debts, gets into this and how it was the policy until Julius Caesar time.

[@Jm-wt1fs]

How would this be fair to the people who lent their money to people? Not only big banks, but smaller time lenders who can easily be wiped out be just a couple defaults on loans they’ve written. They are what keeps the economy growing and can’t just be told to eat losses when they’ve upheld their end of the deal Also wth does this have to do w the video you’re commenting on lol

[@RCaugh]

It used to be normal periodic operating procedure under British feudalism. Today? Talk to our “banking cabal.”

[@RoddieCole]

Whenever Jeffrey Sachs talks all the interviewers and guests just go quiet and listen intently. He gives such clear and concise truthful events and it’s superb. He should do as Tucker suggests and make 10 four hour educational videos on a range of all the key economical, geopolitical and societal/cultural subjects and post them to social media and KZbin. The world needs it.

[@V4zz33]

Thank you for the interview in a fashion where your guest can answer your questions!

[@maxsportsman2416]

Thank you Breaking Points for having on Dr Jeffrey Sachs

[@shamilakhan7573]

Dr sachs is a special man thank you for your education 🫡🫶🏼🫶🏼

[@PieterFranken-e4v]

I learned a great deal by listening to this discussion ... I also deeply appreciate the way folks listened to each other.

[@pamala2112]

These long form discussions with unconventional guests are truly enlightening and thoroughly enjoyable! Thank you Counterpoints!

[@LaurineCurrin]

Watch Dialogue Works with Nima Alkorshid. Astute questions and who let's the guest speak for as long as it takes to answer the question without interruption

[@johnweerasinghe4139]

A true American. Dr. Sachs is a reflection of the average americans I work and live with. Some or most of them are military veterans who share Professor Sach's view.

[@justatiger6268]

I would ask prof. Sachs to what extent do the American hate Russia because of simple *anti-Slavic bigotry* Why is this never discussed? The Americans certainly behave as if they had a blind hatred for all that is Russian simply because it is Russian. The Germans and Austrians were (and largely still are) deeply racist against all Slavs. And many in America agreed with Adolf & Co during WWII and even if they thought the whole Holocaust thing was a bit much, they were certainly sympathetic with 'Ze-Germans' and Austrians when it came to killing Slavs and Communist (which, in their racist ways, they all saw as one and the same)

[@UpliftedTranceJunkie]

I noticed the almost nazi-like, anti-russian hatred as well. Seeing a concerning number of the pro-ua people go extreme, unhinged racist against a whole ethnicity of people (Russians) to the point of celebrating their gruesome perishing (even civilians) has been extremely off-putting, and caused immediate alarm in me that something is not right with that side. It basically solidified my position. I'm not slavic myself, but I'm a poc, and I've always been strongly against fascism, nazism, and xenophobia. Unfortunately, I think we are seeing these things begin to ramp up in the west. As usual.

[@FraserBailey-jm5yz]

It's always good to see Mr Sachs on the various podcasts one follows. Needless to say, he will never be allowed near mainstream media given his tendency to tell the truth about the insanity and evil of US foreign policy etc. The same applies to Matt Taibi.

[@Breese2382]

Thank you Professor Sachs for the clarification.

[@johnbetz5572]

This was a wonderful program. Great guests, great hosts.

[@ItsPaige_Hi]

Thank you for upholding democracy with all of your interviews

[@timothywalker6062]

He is among the few speaking the truth regarding our policies regarding Russia

[@stefanandersson1760]

Thx for letting Mr. Sachs take his time without interruptions. The schematics he lays out is probably very close to the truth.

[@Jeff_G86]

It's wonderful to get some historical context. Thanks!

[@sahdna]

Many respect to Prof Sachs.

[@Rosiethebear30]

So sad! What a great interview. Jeffrey Sachs is so full of important information.

[@ivannisevic6685]

It's amazing to hear Ryan talk about how Germany and Japan have built good relations with the US after WW2. He forgets that both states are still partially occupied by the US army. It's the relationship between the occupier and the occupied. But you'll never hear this in the media.

[@randygraham926]

yes, you are right. Germany and Japan are, at least in part, vassal States of the U.S. Empire. This is why relations are "good".😂

[@ClownCarCoup]

“Occupied” is not the right word. US has bases at these countries invitation. It’s not like we’ve annexed territory via sham referendums.

[@User-r5g5f]

@@ivannisevic6685 They could tell the U.S. to go.

[@ivannisevic6685]

@@ClownCarCoup 🙂 Annexation forces you to treat the occupied population as your own citizens, with the same rights and freedoms. Germans and Japanese had none of that. Look at the West Bank, which is occupied and under Israeli military law. No 'sham referendums', but sham elections and sham 'invitations', yes. 'Occupied' is the word that the Americans used. They stopped using the word after they established the political systems they wanted in the occupied countries. It was just like in Iraq after 2003, but much less democratic. In Japan, one party has been in power almost continuously since 1955. In reality, citizens of these countries had no say on the issue of US military bases. The 'invitations' were made by parties that collaborated with the occupier, just like there are Ukrainian-born people who officially run local government matters in Crimea, Donbas etc. now. I live in Australia and there is practically no way to remove US bases even from our territory. It's insane.

[@ClownCarCoup]

@@ivannisevic6685 unlike Russia, Japan, Germany and Australia are functioning democracies where the people elect a government that hosts US bases. They aall enjoy protection from US defense. Please stop with this nonsense that Russias annexation of Ukrainian territory is legitimate. There’s a reason the “special military operation” , what the non propagandized part of the world calls an _invasion_ , is still not concluded 2 and half years on; it’s because *Ukrainians don’t want to be Russians*

[@andrews5320]

Thank you for this conversation.

[@aggedyran]

How refreshing to hear the truth! Thank you for having Professor Sachs on the show.

[@mjohns5944]

I could listen to Jeffrey Sachs all day.

[@WorldWeeb]

sad. seek help

[@Quoxozist]

@@WorldWeeb stay mad kid

[@mathewjohnson7057]

​@WorldWeeb ...you probably couldn't concentrate on anything for more than 2 minutes. Get back in your basement.

[@WorldWeeb]

@@mathewjohnson7057 yes cant listen to kremlin shills

[@WorldWeeb]

@@Quoxozist 🤣🤣

[@hansmolders1066]

An IMF official was once asked to point out Countries that were better off after their involvement. He couldn't cite a single one!

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

Spain and Portugal got cleaned up well and Greece not too bad after the financial crisis. But they had a lot of other help from the EU (countries) too.

[@danwelterweight4137]

But all those countries you mentioned are tributary vassal states of the United States with American soldiers and bases in them. All other countries who got IMF and World Bank loans got wrecked.

[@josephtaormina1748]

What a tremendous piece of journalism 👏

[@PB-or2fd]

Great interview. Appreciate all four of you putting this together.

[@abdulghani8269]

Danke schön Mr.J. Sachs,for Peace work,Free Palestine.

[@jnyboy28]

Free palestine and free ukraine ❤️

[@alevans7475]

‼‼ As of 1994, the financial debt of the old USSR was almost $105 billion. It was also the debts of all former Soviet republics. The largest part of this amount (over $47 billion) was to the Paris Club of creditors. It was a pool of 19 creditors, mostly in the West including the US and the UK. Russia actively began to repay debts under the presidency of Vladimir Putin. One of the final large Soviet-era debts was repaid in 2016 to Kuwait. Russia paid $1.1 billion and delivered $620 million worth of high-tech products to the country. Russia paid off the Soviet debt alone

[@rsl95818]

you guys are at a whole different level. Sachs reputation is impeccable. You went the deluxe apartment in the sky. kudos, you two. Our two most usual suspects.

[@kylieharper5405]

What a fantastic conversation. Jeff Sachs has done great work and Matt Taibbi is one of the best reporters out there today.

[@carollinwentworth3261]

Excellent retrospective of the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Cold War, and the reasons for the mess we now find ourselves in. Thanks to all of you! This presentation gives me real hope that once we admit, confront, and understand past mistakes, we will 49:45 find a path forward,

[@rmichaeloliver109]

This is why the UniParty must be defeated.

[@constanzamejia]

What a great and enlightening interview. Profesor Sachs is truly outstanding in his field. Thank you!

[@giannybee0]

Wow my eyes have been opened. Now I'm just sad no one seemed to listen to him.

[@sardendibs]

Try to read “From economist to Kremlin mouthpiece: The troubling transformation of Jeffrey Sachs” over on The Hill. See if your eyes remain “opened”.

[@Theone-bc7tr]

Sachs is right here. America need more people like him that tell the honest truth

[@giannybee0]

@@sardendibs Thanks I'll check it out.

[@VaughanMcCue]

I like to let stories like this settle for a few days because only a chessboard is B+W.

[@robby3193]

@@sardendibsI read the article. All the rebuttals are wordy, and purposefully obtuse. They may even be true, but reek of fact checks like “claim: the sky is blue; fact check: the sky is not actually blue because color is not real and merely a perception of the human brain and at night there’s no light, also some tribes in South America don’t even recognize blue as a color and dogs see shades of gray” Also the author is literally a member of the Ukrainian parliament as mentioned in the last line of the article. Again, all the fact checks could be true , but it’s not a very clear exposition

[@cdf01]

The best guest ever, thx for having him. Wish he was running for POTUS...

[@denverfletcher9419]

US relations with Russia were as close to normal as they have ever been when the US was obsessively engaged in the Global War on Terror. As enthusiasm for and the credibulity of that wound down the US reverted to Russia as the existential threat that must be fought with every means at their disposal: political, economic, military, and espionage/sabotage. As Mencken noted, it doesn't matter of the threat is real or imagined, it only matters that the political class reacts to it as if it is real, pretends it is real, and as Goebbels noted, accuses dissenters of treason, insufficient patriotism, and being enemy sympathisers.

[@randygraham926]

You're right on that. And Mencken has a sharp wit in most cases.

[@catadoxas]

many americans dont get that while the US was attacked by a bunch of saudis. what bush implemented was in fact brezinskis plan. to take out old the secular arab socialist govs russia was allied with. neither of them had anything to do with religion (at least no more than our politicians), all while Russia was screaming bloody murder.

[@kj-y9y]

well said, it's the u.s./ nazi playbook. you must be a putin puppet.

[@010O]

Germany doesnt have true sovereignty like russia. thats the difference.

[@New_Zealander]

Germany is literally an occupied country in 2024. LOL the amrcans still have military facilities all over Germany.

[@axelscharf2415]

Germany is heaven compared to Russia . Nobody wants to live in Russia or even worse be a Russian .

[@LaurineCurrin]

You can see that with zero reaction from Sholz when US blew up Nordstream. Biden said it on stage while Sholz stood next to him on stage. Victoria Nuland said it to Congress under examination. Sy Hersch wrote about it and how it was done. Germany is a vassal state. UK is also vassal, 98% of EU too except for Hungary and Slovakia. Try watching Judge Napolitano

[@l337pwnage]

Well, Russia only recently got rid rid of most of their oligarchs, but they still have some left in positions of power. Still, Germany is clearly MUCH worst off than Russia is at this point.

[@damham5689]

Finally. In the opening Ryan finally admits he talks with no actual knowledge and sometimes repeats rumours and misinformation in a way others might consider facts.

[@christiankolb1818]

Thank you Mr Sachs

[@JelenaJanev]

Slovakia and Slovenia are not Balkan countries, just saying. This is so telling. With time distance, it's clear my beautiful country Yugoslavia was a victim of US plan to put NATO bases in Balkan - it would have never happened if Yugoslavia stayed whole.

[@lavendereucalyptus3225]

Does US government have any principled moral value? If US government were a person, how would you describe its personality? Such an ill hearted government.

[@Tressco]

Micro: essential psychopaths Macro: pathocracy "Political Ponerology" The original manuscript of this book went into the furnace minutes before a secret police raid in Communist Poland. The second copy, painfully reassembled by scientists working under impossible conditions of violence and repression, was sent via courier to the Vatican. Its receipt was never acknowledged - the manuscript and all valuable data lost. In 1984, the third and final copy was written from memory by the last survivor of the original researchers: Andrew Lobaczewski. Zbigniew Brzezinski blocked its publication. After half a century of suppression, this book is finally available. "In any society in this world, psychopathic individuals and some of the other deviant types create a ponerogenically active network of common collusions, partially estranged from the community of normal people... Their sense of honor bids them to cheat and revile that ‘other’ human world and its values at every opportunity. (Lobaczewski, 138) (…) „Ideological Mask: The group's stated goals are often at variance with its true nature. Colorful literature and humanitarian values often mask its true motivations. Take, for example, the disparity between the CIA's stated goals, such as "Creating special, multidisciplinary centers to address such high-priority issues such as nonproliferation, counterterrorism, counterintelligence, international organized crime and narcotics trafficking, environment, and arms control intelligence", and its widespread use of terrorism, torture, overthrowing democratically elected governments, installing foreign dictators, drug trafficking, arms smuggling, etc. (…) When such individuals are treated as normal, more perceptive individuals will leave the group. When the group has become sufficiently pathological, members will either perceive its new direction in moral terms (e.g., “We must kill them all on the principle of justice and democracy”), or as a form of psychological terror. As more healthy people leave the group, taking on more counter-revolutionary positions, individuals with psychological anomalies join, removing their masks of sanity ever more often. Without adequate knowledge, normal individuals who have been ejected from such a group will suffer immensely, cut off from their original ideological reason for joining. Infected with unhealthy emotions and pathological material, they can assume positions opposite to those which they formerly followed. (…) In short, the patients have overtaken the asylum.“ - Dr. Andrzej M. Lobaczewski („Political Ponerology“)

[@Buf-g6m]

First program ive seen these two guests on at the same time great idea, thanks for the good and informative discussion.

[@MackB2023]

Two great guests . Voices of reason. Courage and integrity.

[@glenjo0]

About f%^king time to have Sachs/Taibbi on. Now have Lawrence Wilkerson, Scott Ritter, etc, on.

[@Concerned63Citizen]

Yes. Please have Scott Ritter and Lawrence Wilkerson.

[@tylerschneider5598]

Scott Ritter the pedophile?

[@Aaronfiddler]

Lawrence Wilkerson was my professor at the college of William and Mary. He's the real deal Holy field

[@SickFBskater]

Keep Scott Ritter away from the children. Twice convicted pedophile.

[@doggieclaude]

Colonel MacGregor, Col Karen Kwatowski, Matt Hoh too

[@charlesiragui2473]

Sachs is a true capitalist: creditors are responsible too for bad loans. When the debtor goes bust, the debt needs to be written down. This typically happens through a change in ownership of the debt: owners sell it at a loss to new owners who can hold the discounted debt profitably.

[@Concerned63Citizen]

Every American should hear this. Most people have absolutely no idea…..

[@lgonzasn5145]

A huge lesson about post URSS era and Russian-Ukraine war. What a great stuff. You have just gained a new subscriber. Greetings from Brazil.

[@RaiseMoreHell]

Mickey Huff of Project Censored did an interview back in February 2022 with Peter Kuznick, the historian who co-wrote "The Untold History of the US" with Oliver Stone. They'd damned Sachs in the series, but had since had the same epiphany. "After the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia was in a period of extraordinary decline and a lot of American economic advisors went in there and put the Russian economy through Shock Therapy, which Yeltsin was supporting. In the original untold history, we put a lot of the blame for that onto Jeffrey Sachs. And Jeff wrote me after it came out and said “Peter, you guys really raked me over the coals, but I’m not as guilty as you think.” He said that they ignored all of his advice. He and I have gotten to know each other over the years and we’re actually going to collaborate around the 60th anniversary of the Cuban Missile Crisis later this year and other measures and he’s really been one of the guiding lights, one of the people who’s got his head screwed on right when it comes to Ukraine now. In the new edition of the book, where we go into even greater detail about what happened with Ukraine in the ’90s and 2000s, I quote Jeff Sachs at length on Morning Joe on MSNBC. He was on there talking about US involvement in Syria. It was supposed to be about the outrages of what the Russians were doing, and he said, “If you want to understand that, you have to understand the US operation Timber Sycamore. It was the US that provoked a crisis in Syria, at a time when there was no uprising of any significant sort, with our putting all this aid and arms into Syria. They tried to talk him down, he wouldn’t let them go. I thought he was quite brave and quite brilliant about this." www.projectcensored.org/history-matters-peter-kuznick-on-us-nato-tensions-russia-ukraine-and-avoiding-catastrophic-war/

[@z1az285]

i still remember what gary oldman said in the movie "air force one"..."...you have reduced mmy country to a nation of beggars and prostitutes". i didn't know the historical context but now i do. all to well

[@charlesiragui2473]

Strange to say but the euro destroyed European independence. 1) it emasculated national governments and unelected Brussels is easier to control. 2) the euro is a poor policy tool for such a diverse regional economy; since 2010 the EU has been in a state of permanent austerity and crisis.

[@genreartwithjb5095]

That’s ridiculous Western Europe enjoys a much higher standard of living than both the Us and Russia.

[@charlesiragui2473]

@@genreartwithjb5095 Go to France and you will not say this. Or maybe you will and it's a matter of opinion, not data. In any case, the point is that in 2003, France and Germany could oppose US foreign policy and today that's no longer true. The euro has plunged the south of Europe into permanent recession. The continent has a much weaker voice than it had just 20 years ago.

[@ruhmuhaccer864]

​@@charlesiragui2473 Lepenist?

[@L-K-K]

At the same time individually they don't have as much bargaining power against mammoth US or China. Problem is US infiltration into EU establishment. Or maybe its EU traitors who'd happily trade in European welfare for personal gains financed by the US.

[@frankscott350]

There's a old Chinese axiom that says, "On your own day you are believed." The surprising thing to me is that you're actually reporting intelligently on Ukraine, the context of what's happening there and what it means. After all, how often to you get to report when your country is doing about all it can, absent a Jack Savage PBF pre-emptive launch [so far], to promote WWIII, the circumstance for a nuclear exchange between global super powers? Kudos to BP for finally turning aside from the political circus, however momentarily, to look at the insanity being conducted in our name.

[@valerietweedie4376]

This is such an important interview. Thanks for allowing Dr Sachs to explain this critical piece of history without interruption.

[@go0dy338]

Glad Sachs is reporting what is honestly happening on the battlefield.

[@jl9205]

An amazing, highly educational interview. Wow. Top-notch stuff.

[@JovicaNedeljkovic-nf2ur]

I have always believed that Russia and the USA should lead the world and not separate and destroy it. But I believe for a long time that the USA, China, Russia and Europe should lead the world and unite the world as an equal world. What is now is a disaster.

[@elenah8582]

Amazing interview!

[@jamesryan4325]

Thank you so much for having Professor Sachs and Matt Taibbi on! I could see the presenters getting a bit nervous with these two shattering the mainstream western narrative around Russia and the lead up to this crisis. More people need to hear this and then stand up to this madness the West is fuelling in Ukraine.

[@sabinereynaudsf]

Unfortunately, Yegor Gaidar is dead, but it would be really interesting to get his account of events in the early 1990s.

[@missypaws2500]

Great conversation! Thank you all!

[@alexglanz7406]

Thank you for this course in contemporary US global policy. Brilliant and concerning conversation

[@stewartkatz2936]

Sachs is great both on this and covid. Krystal isnt there cause she would have to stand up for her little guy based on his remarks recently about Taibbi...

[@pchakrav2000]

What little guy?

[@Nkemjo]

⁠@@pchakrav2000my guess is is Kyle Kulinsky

[@samuelpeterson7043]

Taibbi got bent over by Elon lol

[@Nathaniel-L96]

Krystal isn’t there because this was their Wednesday show and she doesn’t do the Wednesday show 😂