Breville Precision Brewer vs. Technivorm Moccamaster

[@fredmiller6038]

The Technivorm has a 5 year warranty but provides indefinite service. After 8 years and brewing coffee every day it just stop heating the water. I called service in USA and was informed they could repair it for a modest $70. I shipped it and less than 2 weeks later I had an 8 year old Technivorm that worked like new. Yes, it was $300 when new but years of service and worth it.

[@Sv-vb2fe]

That’s good to know. If I was to ever spring for a high end coffeemaker the Technivorm would be the only one I would consider.

[@robertmain2500]

@@Sv-vb2fe Interesting - I like the idea of the fancy features of the Breville, but part of me prefers the simplicity of the Technivorm because there's tech crap to go wrong.

[@Patrick-vh7sw]

@@robertmain2500 This was EXACTLY my thinking as well. For my more complex coffee options I have one of the Breville Nespresso machines (with the steam wand) and that can let me do americanos, lattes and such. For drip coffee.....well, simple is perfect. Put the coffee and water in and that's it. Wonderfully simple. About the only things that can fail are heating elements (and the solenoid that kicks the power switch off on my hot plate model).

[@f4ust85]

So you basically paid $370 for electric water kettle with a warranty. Well worth it.

[@gearardlefore]

That’s exactly why I just bought one as all users reviews point to the sustainability of the product and the support. I will take anything handmade with a 5 year warranty that’s been made for 50 years!! Made in China means you are buying again and again.

[@user-rj3yb4po6i]

I know this is an older vid but I’m sure people are still checking it out. SO, thought I’d mention my experience with both units. I acquired the Breville Precision Brewer about three years ago. At the time I was hoping to make use of all the various features. In reality I’d say I ended up 98% of the time just brewing a carafe using Gold setting. Maybe 2% of the time using the Pour-over mode. Solid cup all the way around. My only real “issues” are the amount of fluid the carafe lid retained, and that it was almost impossible to fully drain the contents of the carafe. Would I suggest the Breville unit to anyone? You bet! I don’t think you’re going to go wrong - IF you’re going to be using a ton of the other features of the unit that are available. However… If all you end up wanting is just a solid cup of coffee in a great carafe I’d most likely suggest the Technivorm Moccamaster. I’ve switched to the 79312 KBGT and love the simplicity of the unit. Happy drinking! And as always, much thanks to everyone at Seattle Coffee Gear for making these vids!!

[@ugursenturk5860]

Anymore things you want to add 1 year on?

[@callumrobertson1081]

I've currently got a sage precision (the UK version of breville) and I've had a mocha master before. I find that they are quite different for what I want to do with coffee. The mocha master is more of a simple brewer, while you can do more with the precision, and that's what I'm looking for in a counter top brewer, something that does a lot, well. Out of the box, the settings did need a little tweaking to get the coffee out of it at its best, however that wasn't too difficult. I have had no issue with the precision, however I didn't have any real problems with my old mocha master either. While the 5 year warranty is more impressive, I'd say that it's a lot easier to give a 5 year warranty to a simpler machine as they're obviously a lot less to go wrong.

[@ericcalladine6585]

Seven or eight years ago I was on a mission to find the best home coffee brewer in the world and after researching many brands I discovered Technivorm from Holland. With no bells and whistles which I did not need, I bought one and for many years was truly satisfied with the mighty fine coffee it brewed. Finally after years of use it broke down and I was about to buy another one but hesitated a little because they are getting pricey! Then I found this Breville coffee maker was available through my Air Canada Aeroplan air miles and decided to go that route instead because it was free! A fan and owner of many other Breville kitchen appliances, I was curious as to good this thing was going to be and now after a year of use, I find the quality of both the Technivorm and Breville coffee makers to be really close. They both brew outstanding coffee! Overall, I’d say I prefer the Breville because of the sturdiness, added features and overall design. At $400 bucks Canadian, you get what you pay for! My favourite coffees? Single Estate coffees from Kona, Hawaii and Costa Rica.

[@UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart]

If my Moccamaster breaks down I’m shipping it to them for repair.

[@justintaylor7800]

I am probably one of the few to own both of these machines. Hands down the Technivom is my favorite. I get many compliments from guests on the coffee that it brews. I recently went on a long business trip and purchased the Breville to use while away. It does have a lot of features and adjustments, and I have not made it through all of them yet. It does make a fine cup of coffee, however, not as smooth or full bodied as the Technivorm. I have noticed slight temperature variences with the Breville. The temperature of the Technivorm is always the same. Both brew quickly, both well made, but I appreciate the simplicity of the Technivorm.

[@jefftoonstra5087]

The mocha master design is simple and genius!

[@jasonponce4461]

Justin🖐. Was wondering what your technique (stirring at one point or second point during brewing) for brewing coffee using the Moccamaster consists of? Do you just add the coffee to the brew basket and then flip the On switch, and let the coffeemaker flow?

[@ugursenturk5860]

5 years on whats up

[@johnnybgoode2484]

I have several Breville appliances. They are very well-built and function great. Unfortunately, I've had a couple experiences dealing with Breville customer service. I'd put it in the same category as Samsung appliances - absolutely horrible. I think my next brewer will definitely be the Technivorm.

[@gearardlefore]

Love the reviews just ordered the Technivorm as it appears to be the most reliable maker out there. Thank you

[@jefftoonstra5087]

You won’t regret it!

[@katzparov]

The Mocamaster that I have has the 3 setting brew basket. The basket sits on a round base so that the basket can rotate back and forth. When the water begins to enter the basket, I take off the lid and slowly spin the brew basket back and forth so that water disperses over the entire surface of the grounds. This is only needed for the first minute or so. Then give the basket a little shake to get the grounds off of the sides. At that point you can probably leave it alone and let the brew cycle complete. Once all the water is dispersed, I give the basket a little shake to help get a flat bed during the drawdown. I do find the two tablespoons per 6 ounces of water is much too strong for me regardless of what the SCAA golden cup ratio is. I have to use just one tablespoon per 6 ounces water which is roughly 5 grams coffee per 6 ounces of water.

[@OdPlomp89]

I've owned both and they're both excellent machines. I however went with the Breville precision Brewer, it has the best elements of an espresso machine and a drip coffee maker. Couldn't ask for more.

[@tomchiaromonte1919]

Ordered the Bonavita 5 cup because my Cuisinart had given out after quite a long life...10 years or more, and I'm now flying solo on coffee drinking. Really like Bonavita's simplicity, clean lines, compact size, and after today's maiden voyage (following set-up instructions to the letter) a pretty nice cup of coffee. Also like that the carafe can follow me to my courtyard and maintain a nice temp. Really wanted to the Technivorm, just couldn't part with the $300.00. Also, a small investment of search time can net you a nice savings, paid just under $80.00 for mine.

[@vince7735]

I enjoy these no-nonsense reviews.

[@olegpa]

I checked the temperature of water under the shower head. You could do it very simply by replacing the filter basket by the cup. Breville don't check it the basket is on place and work without it. I choose "My brew" setting and choose "94 Celsius" under "My brew setting". Finally, the temperature of water that fall from the head to the cup didn't exceed 170F. This maybe the reason why the coffee from Breville is brighter because it is underextracted.

[@highoctaneadventure]

Another great and helpful video. Nice to see another option added to Technivorm and Bona Vita. On a side note, Gail, I have to thank you for your time in helping me pick out an awesome brewer when I called the store a few years ago. My Moccamaster from Seattle Coffee Gear continues to make fantastic coffee for every type of morning. Glad to see it holds up against the new tech on the block.

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

Awesome to hear! Thanks for watching!

[@PerryRenoman]

Thanks for the info. We will be heading out today to purchase a Moccamaster and return yes the third Breville. We bout first one just before Christmas 2017 error code7 called Breville answer send it to them and they will send a new one when they have new batch of machine there is no cure for error 7. We took back to store and got new one. Low and behold another error code seven. We discovered that when you unplug and plugin again you can make coffee so we have done this for months now in an attempt to wait for new batch. Got new one error code7. We have been patient because we love the coffee it makes it’s easy to use actually everything is good except you can’t save any setting not even the clock but that has now ended.

[@AlexGGSandro]

@@PerryRenoman You need to descale your brewer regularly. Also when you pour cold water in you should use a clean cup. If you get coffee particles in to the water reservoir they clog the metal mesh at the bottom. All you need to do is to use a fine brush to clean the filter and do a descaling cycle.

[@swatsonphysicsmathteacher5079]

Does everybody brew a full pot in the morning? Or are you like me and brew 2 cups? Coffee is expensive; I don't dump any down the drain. I would much rather see a comparison where just 1 or 2 cups are brewed. I would assume with the adjustability available on the Breville it would win. That is why I have just ordered the Breville. The adjustability is what sold it for me, adjusting the brewing time, and bloom time will yield a much better cup with practice, along with the lower price (on sale for 279 CDN!)I love the fact that the Technivorm is hand built in Europe; I assume it will last much longer than the Breville, but time will tell.

[@OxymoronOner]

how do you like your precision brewer 1 yr later?

[@lawnmowerman2199]

Hi I'm wondering if you still have the Breville and what your opinions are of it now?

[@21cuma]

It would help a lot your review, still waiting after two years, please come here and leave your honest input 👋

[@cl9826]

@@21cuma He ded. And so is the Breville

[@mahmer09]

Would love to know grind setting or to see what your grounds look like before brewing.

[@robinenbernhard]

Like technivrom its not because am dutch and and when living at home we got technivorm so long i can remember but i like it it just one button and you get coffie

[@upscalebohemian5372]

I was deciding between the Moccamaster KBGV Select and the Breville Precision Brewer. The reason I went with the moccamaster was past experience with an expensive Breville product (when it fails prematurely), and all the reviews I read online from people saying they couldn't get replacement parts (even glass carafes). That was a deal killer. I bought the Moccamaster and feel all I have to do is get the grind right and also remove the carafe during the brewing process long enough to let the filter basket fill up with just enough water to stir a slurry of coffee, no more, and then slide the carafe back in place. That's it. (Without this step I found the coffee it produced a bit harsh and realized it was basically creating a tunnel from water pressure in the center of the ground beans and over-extracting that while leaving the rest of the grounds fairly untouched. It took some trial and error but that made a huge difference, and now I'm on to buy a brew-specific grinder (like the Eureka Mignon Filtro) because I think my Rancilio Rocky (though it does a uniform grind) is a non-stop pain to use and deal with in just about every way imagineable. I will never be so happy to see such a product out of my life and into landfill.

[@hollygab8188]

Techniworm is handmade in Holland with copper heating element. 5 year warranty. I love mine. Never had better coffee

[@BumpNrun69]

another one with this "Hand made" claim. There's automation in the process for stamping/molding the parts , only thing "hand made" is the very little assembly of a couple items. This isn't a vehicle with many components it's a freaking coffee machine ..

[@bobsykes]

Hard to see in the video, but it looks like you left the Technivorm set at the smallest cut on the basket, even though you were brewing the full pot.

[@janiecyr6477]

No she made only 1 cup from each machine for the test.

[@arbaum19720517]

I think we need all coffee makers cause you never what mood we'll be in

[@Ronnie7474]

I bought a breville precision brewer. Returned in less than a week. Didn’t brew hot. Even with the temp maxed out it brewed at about 175 out of the shower. I also thought the shower head was terrible. It was a straight beam of water that not saturate the grounds well at all. I returned it got the ratio 6 which was in a completely didn’t league from top to bottom. Only issu was it starting cramping out of a couple years as it’s still a made in China product. A lot of plastic. So no I plan to get a moccamaster so I can have peace of mind that it works and if something goes wrong I can get it fixed

[@dapluq5961]

Did u get it?

[@Ronnie7474]

@ actually yes I did. I returned it even faster. Unbelievably bad design flaw with how the water flows over the basket. It’s like 2 inches off center. I brewed a pot and then looked at the grounds and they were still half dry. It’s really strange. The best coffee pot I’ve used is still the ratio. Far and away the best at actually brewing coffee.

[@13601chas]

Just purchased the Breville® 12-Cup Stainless Steel Precision Brewer Glass Coffee Maker and I love it so far... Excellent coffee... The best I've had from a home coffee maker. We'll have to see how it holds up in the long run, but I would highly recommend it.

[@allencentonzo2424]

How's the coffee maker holding up?

[@13601chas]

@@allencentonzo2424 Still going strong👍

[@GustavoDiazV]

3:37 My choice is clear to me. Breville China 1 year warranty. Technivorm Holland 5 years warranty.

[@garyhost1830]

I just watched a review by a world champion barista (2007) and he has the Breville and uses its everyday for the last 2 years. They both seem amazing though. im not sure which one to go

[@peterboil4064]

Technivorm is based in the province of Utrecht, not Holland though.

[@jillrobin]

@@peterboil4064 Utrecht is very much Holland/Netherlands

[@PhreakDarkSoul]

In Germany the Breville brewer is branded as "Sage" and also roundabout 100 € more expensive (street price), so the choice is very easy. And also the fact, that the Breville/Sage has electonic parts: An error source, it is just a filter machine (aka drip coffee maker) so it should be kept simple.

[@Norfolk250]

2:44 I wonder how many of us exclaimed "EWWWW!" at that feature .... interrupting the flow to pour a cuppa. I mean, 'reallllllllllllll-ly'?!

[@novideosnovideos544]

Made in China and 1 year warranty vs made in Holland with 5 years warranty says it all. Love My Moccamaster.

[@gigiis526]

YEP! I AM TIRED OF CRAP MADE IN CHINA.

[@peterboil4064]

Not to mention that China, to be exact the CCP, is the enemy of democracy.

[@deathfire096]

If Breville wasn't made in China, it would cost double maybe triple. You people want quality but don't want to pay the high prices that comes with paying high wages. If you are going to pay for rain, you have to deal with the mud. Is not where its made, its the technology and pattern and quality. Breville is quality, even the plastic part on the carafe is high end not the cheap plastic Technivorm uses that you find in the cheap coffee makers in Wal-Mart and Target. Breville menu on all their products is top notch. I rather spend my money on the product itself than extended warranties. In my experience with electronics is that extended warranties are a waste of money and if the product will go bad it will be within the first year. Breville is a better quality product and you have many options in the menu from gold standard, strong, fast and manual (your choice), that's better than just an on/off button.

[@deathfire096]

@@peterboil4064 yeah, like the type of government in a country will make a better or worse a coffee maker. LOL. Does your car drives differently from all the Middle East oil and their type of government?

[@deathfire096]

Some people here are just clueless. The Breville is a superior machine because the material is better even the plastic on the carafe is high-end and not the shiny cheap plastic you see on the cheaper versions. The reason the Breville is SUPERIOR is because of the settings and control for your coffee that the Technivorm doesn't have. It's just an on/off switch and you get your coffee one way, that's it. If you are that simple-minded person and expect that all beans are the same and don't like options and don't like control then buy the Technivorm. You can choose on the Breville simple straight coffee, the Gold Standard, Strong, My Brew, and choose the brewing water temperature depending on the beans because all beans are not the same. You can control the flow rate from a slow, medium, fast depending on your beans and that will control the flavor. You can also control the bloom time in the process. Anybody that knows about beans knows how important is the bloom time and not all beans are the same and not everybody's taste is the same. This is the control and options that the Technivorm doesn't have. Other than they have some similarities in the look, the core of the products are 2 different beasts. Breville is just a better technology machine. On just you controlling your temperature, brew flow, and bloom time for a particular taste of a bean those 3 alone beats the Technivorm, add a superior material and you can get it for the same price, Breville wins.

[@louisanthony8755]

Technivorm is hand made in Holland. It has few moving parts, no pump and a solid copper heating element. Excellent customer service. Breville is made in China, many moving parts and a digital menu (in time can fail). It has a larger capacity, programable too. Customer service, meh. I have owned many brewers and coffee machines, Breville, technivorm, Italian machines too. It is preference, I prefer simple and durable and less fluff. Hand made vs China made, no contest. I love my Technivorm. (10years)

[@BumpNrun69]

"Hand made" what are you talking about. There's automation in the process to build and stamp the components, only thing "hand made" is the very little assembly. This isn't a vehicle, it's a freaking coffee machine ...😂😂🤣

[@Aco747lyte]

Thank you for the video comparison; I enjoyed it very much like all your videos. ☺️ For the consumer it comes down to affordability: Cost. Sage by Heston Blumenthal is the UK operating name for the Australian manufacturer Breville, and in the UK this same Sage Precision Brewer costs £249.99 with a warranty of 2 years. Whereas the Technivorm's warranty is 5 years and its splendid Moccamaster Select costs just £190. We've had our Technivorm Moccamaster for what must be 8 years....and it's still producing first rate coffee. Honestly, I don't think there is any other filter coffee machine quite like it. Sage /Breville have produced an excellent filter coffee machine - but at a price!

[@MikeTheBlueCow]

Adjusting the grind size would get those coffees to taste pretty similar.

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

Definitely a lot you can play with!

[@flybyairplane3528]

I use a glass kettle, nearly boil H2O, then THERE IS A FINE METAL FILTER, 4 cups, then I pour the water all over grounds, Not just in middle, collects into the other glass carafe, my wife drinks 1 with evap, but I drink,the other 3 black. It tastes better than the typical electric drip machine.., have NOT used paper filters since the DIOXIN bit, but the UN bleached ( brown ) ones are not a problem., but have not used them.

[@jgeary8473]

That's a tough judgment to make between the brewers - you must dial in the coffee differently for each as the Breville has custom options while the Technivorm - not really. I've owned a Technivorm for 12 yrs, a Behmor for 8 yrs - usually used the Behmor (until it started leaking from the brew basket in the last 2 yrs) and had my first cups with the Breville today - the Breville is great for dialing in a particular coffee with the custom My Brew setting and a decent brew grinder - mine is a Baratza Vario W for Drip Brew and Pourover.

[@clashwithkeen]

Yeah it seems like the technivorm is for people that just want a nice warranty on a simple coffee maker but the breville/sage is more for coffee enthusiasts.

[@stephenrowe4113]

Can you make one or two cups only with these? I know there is the Moccamaster one cup also, but maybe at weekend I will make 4 cups for the day, but through the week I may only have one or two cups a day. It's nice to have the option.

[@andrewgregory8170]

love my moccamaster too. Works like a charm

[@jimcarr5504]

Technivorm handle is to her left, Breville to her right. Handles are still in the same orientation, opposite directions, even after being "mixed up." In poker you would call that a "tell."

[@gritgearapparel]

Thought the same thing, easy to tell which one each were

[@shivaskrivs2612]

Impressive feature set on the Breville for sure but I gotta stick with my tried and true Moccamaster Grand. It just makes superbly delicious coffee and that's that. The Breville made in China thing is not a selling point for me either. Thanks for the comparison! :)

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

Great points Anthony!

[@mariai9549]

The idea of a high price drip machine SHOULD be the consistent temp of the water and the even saturation of of grounds particularly at the beginning of the brew. That is, a perfect machine would eliminate the need for a manual pour over. Maybe the market needs a $600 machine because the $300 models still have issues.

[@GustavoDiazV]

maria I : just get the Ratio 8 $500 to $650

[@WAHOOZ]

Thanks for the review, Gail.

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

Thanks for watching Kevin!

[@jo_magpie]

The fact that I can go to my local hardware store and get any part for my Moccamaster is the selling point for me. The amount of 20 year old+ workplace machines still working around Scandinavia is baffling.

[@slam854]

Technivorm is the winner for me. My home roasted coffee is brewed pour over style (stirred twice). Mine is KBG741AO for an every day perfect cup!

[@stephenrowe4113]

Can you make just one or two cups at a time or is there a minimum? Not sure if I need to buy the one cup version or not but it would nice to make more if I wanted.

[@fredconti7802]

I have a Moccamaster. For over five years. Coffee is always very good, but it got better when I used better beans and bought a Baratza Encore grinder. You can taste the difference in beans with this machine. Well made, but the carafe has had some leakage issues. They replaced it NC.

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

That is such a solid combo!

[@dm7953]

Thanks for the wonderful reviews Gail. Best Regards.

[@calikokat100]

I cant afford either...back to Mr Coffee :(

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Get a moka pot. I got a used Bialetti Venus for $3.00. Best coffee maker in my collection.

[@jefftoonstra5087]

@@bl6973 Bonavita does make almost as good coffee, but when it quits you throw it away ☹️

[@DonQuixotec]

Jeff Hoffman: "Couldn't see her rinsing the paper filters with water, I am extremely uncomfortable now"

[@martyhopkirk6826]

_Jeff_???

[@Steelbooking541]

😂

[@Steelbooking541]

@@martyhopkirk6826 He’s a coffee youtube guy. Also it’s James Hoffman. I like him personally but he comes off as a huge coffee snob 😂

[@shellydanforth8]

Tell me more??? 😂 am I supposed to rinse the coffee filter?

[@DonQuixotec]

@@shellydanforth8 yes, definately. Remove some of that paper taste from the coffee

[@jamesmurphy8014]

Great review and video very interesting and informative as well as entertaining. Thanks Gail

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

Thanks James! Happy brewing!

[@johnkinsfather64]

If you just making 3 cups, which would be better?

[@alexc.7807]

neither. just get a v60. I have a moccamaster and it cannot make 3 (4 oz) cups. The water runs too fast to make less than 24 oz at a time (6 cups).

[@Cattlecruiser]

You can make less than 4oz, even single cups, but you will need to remove the carafe first and put it back in later. This allows the water to sit in the coffee grounds longer. Be careful doing this with more than 4oz as the water can overflow out.

[@Condor1970]

Fruitier would usually be inline with a little more acidic and under extracted when the grind is identical.

[@jlcampos006]

Hi. One cuestión. The garrafa it’s the only way to used the machine Can I use a 20 oz cup ? Thank you 🙏🏼

[@davidfriend5361]

How does it compare to the Behmor connected which you can customize as well. (Not cold Brew).

[@jgeary8473]

Except for altitude setting, the Breville gives you more options, and is a more attractive machine and sturdy machine. I like the cone option of the Breville and I found it easier to dial in the coffee with the Breville. If you are looking for longevity, the base of the Behmor suffers wear easily and its brew basket began leaking after 8 yrs. Try the Breville.

[@JessGriffith]

I watched a million videos and read 2 million Amazon reviews. I was interested in these 2 machines, except I was after the grand version of Mochamaster. After all, I was comparing the same size carafe that way. I so wish I had found a comparison of the bigger model to the Breville. Consumers looking specifically for that gold standard may be as interested as I in realizing that rating may only apply at smaller volumes. This is certainly the case with the precision brewer. The full carafe is sub-par so far in comparison. Would the Mochamaster Grande have brewed a better full carafe?

[@robertmain2500]

The only problem with the Grande is that it has a hot plate, which over time might make your coffee bitter.

[@clashwithkeen]

@@robertmain2500 True, hot plates ruin coffee. Like when you go to a diner and the coffee has that burnt taste because it's been sitting on a hot plate.

[@rickraco105]

I just purchased a new Moccamaster 741. I have not received yet but I am worried. I live alone and most of the time I will do a half amount. I hope the coffee will still be great. Any hints to make this happen?

[@ElTioDelPijama]

Once Moccamaster get into your home, you will not be alone anymore

[@bollebobo]

It arrived already? How is it?

[@ronaldsantosjapan]

Ahhh....but which will function longer?

[@hankarnold3549]

My Technivorm over 15 years before passing ... $20/year, pretty good product.

[@socorronunez5869]

Great video comparison thank you so much.

[@BinoDK]

In Europe u can get 10 years warranty if you write a email to Technivorm not more than 6 month after the purchase.

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

Solid deal!

[@Diggnuts]

I did that almost 15 years ago.. Never needed it! The machine still works as new. I doubt that an over-engineered piece of chinesium would make 10 years.

[@davidsmith8376]

I liked the look of the Breville machine best. In the U.K. the Breville is a Sage Precision Brewer.

[@deathfire096]

I agree. High quality. Even their plastic is high end not that cheap shiny weak plastic. I own many Breville products. I just bought the Oracle touch screen and it's a beast.

[@jeremyb9835]

Nice comparison! They are both wonderful machines.

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

Very true Jeremy. It really depends on what your looking for!

[@TM1Alan]

Bells and whistles or proven reliability and repairable? 🤔No question really. Technivorm for me.😎

[@jasonponce4461]

Has anyone (Seattle Coffee Gear included) tried using Coffeepilot’s Shower Head Insert For Technivorm Moccamaster? If so, I’d love to hear from you. Thank you👍👍

[@LucyHenryFrenchie]

Gail is an awesome reviewer - She will influence me to purchase from SCG

[@matthewwatson572]

@SeattleCoffeeGear Do you have a test for how long the insulated carafe keeps the coffee hot? I've seen alot of bad reviews for the Breville from people saying they don't believe that its a true, vacuum sealed carafe and the coffee doesn't stay hot very long for the price.

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

Our video host Jake says his Precision Brewer carafe stays hot for 1-2 hours typically.

[@allnighter2011]

Haven't watched the reveal, but let me guess...she picked the Technivorm Edit: after watching, yup she did pick the Technivorm..

[@fredbloggs6080]

I wonder if you had stirred the coffee grounds of the Mochamaster as it was brewing, as some feel compelled to do because of the uneven distribution of water, if that would have made it more fruity.

[@scott5055]

I have the Breville currently. How is this compared to the wolf?

[@JimSlaughterOC]

I've had several Breville appliances (but not the coffee brewer) and my conclusion is that they are built pretty well but will eventually fail due to the electronics. Buttons stop working, circuit boards give out, etc. The Technivorm Moccamaster is so simple and built so well that you can probably just buy one and keep it until you get tired of it or stop drinking coffee. There is really very little that can go wrong with them. Also, the Moccamaster is built so that you can repair anything that goes wrong yourself, and parts are available from the company. If your Breville appliance breaks you will probably have to send it in for service, which can get expensive after the warranty expires. For those who like to watch or adjust things as the coffee as it brews, the design of the Moccamaster is better, as it allows you to slow down or even stop the coffee from passing through the filter so you have more flexibility on how strong you make the coffee. You can also stir the coffee a bit as it brews if you want to, which you could not do with most other coffee makers. So if I had to choose between Breville and Technivorm, I would go with the Moccamaster. Also I like the design better; it looks great on the counter. Cheers!

[@lighthouseactingstudio9087]

Great info, thank you! I love watching your videos.

[@FevLoad]

Wish ya luck Gail. happy retirement

[@tcwa7796]

what beans would you recommend for cold brew? i aslo don't care for fruit forward coffee

[@TPIOo27]

TCWA in my experience, using a dark roast for cold brew is best

[@nancys.5968]

I'm interested in the Technivorm but wish it held more than 40 ounces of water. I currently use 48 ounces in our current coffeemaker to make enough for our household. Is there a reason they don't make a bigger one?

[@soaringvulture]

They make a 60-oz model. But they don't recommend running it with less than 60 oz of water.

[@nab-rk4ob]

Wow. I wonder how it turns out to my old deLonghi 14-cup. I love it.

[@ruthannamarteifio9069]

Informative, for sure----- Good to see you here, Gail!!!!

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

Thanks Ruthann! Appreciate you watching! :-)

[@OfTheDevilToRemember]

I prefer fruit-forward coffee...why do you think Breville had more fruit notes, compared to Moccamaster? If they are similar temperatures, was it slightly hotter? Or the shower?

[@jred5153]

I think it is due to the brewing speed. The Moccamaster was slower so you get a smoother brew, the other was faster so less saturation of the grounds. Hope this helps.

[@jlcampos006]

Depending on the tipe. Of the roast It’s the note flavor. More dark roast. Less fruit flavor

[@cbeane5304]

Stay away from breville if making 20oz of coffee or less. VERY inconsistent temps and never got over 175 degrees

[@jimquantic]

Thank you for this important information, timely with Christmas upcoming

[@lawnmowerman2199]

I have both......one's at home the others at the camper. Technivorm hands down is the way to go!

[@thegoodkid]

Does anyone have any issues using regular filters with the Technivorm? Does it really make that much of a difference to use their filters?

[@bollebobo]

Paper absorbs the oil in coffee, gold played metal filters let the oils trough, wich give a full taste. Metal filters, can give the coffe a metallic taste.

[@slowdowntakeiteasy856]

I’m thinking of getting a coffee maker. However I don’t have a grinder and I have been told fresh ground coffee is better for espresso. Is this the same for a filter machine? Would the grind control be a good option? Could you compare the precision brewer with the grind control? Or a short video on thoughts on a machine with or without a grinder. Thank you 🙏 I would appreciate any thoughts.

[@prothonotar]

You'll get a better cup in general with a decent grinder and a cheap coffee maker (or a non-electric maker like a french press or pour-over) than with an expensive coffee maker and no grinder (assuming you mean you're going to get pre-ground coffee or grind it at the store) or a cheap grinder (e.g. blade grinders). You can get a decent electric conical burr grinder for around $80-100; or if you're not looking to spend that on a grinder, you can get a hand grinder that just requires a little more elbow grease. I would start there, and only consider the pricey coffee makers after that.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

My sister has the Technivorm but she's had a lot of problems with it. The spring mechanism in the basket has failed 4 times, and it no longer gets up to the correct temperature (about 180°F instead of around 200). Instead of shooting the water out of the various nozzles it sort of drips out. Pretty disappointing for the price.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Well, send it in to get fixed.

[@MJB7322]

Just returned the Technivorm Moccamaster. I had high hopes for it but alas, I was disappointed in the machine for a few reasons. First, the spray head didn't evenly disperse the water over the coffee which made for inconsistent tasting coffee. Second, the carafe pours very poorly. Third, I got tired of having to remove the funnel lid and replace it with the other lid. Lastly, I didn't find that the coffee was any hotter than my prior Cuisinart coffee maker. To this day, I have yet to find a coffee maker that makes coffee as hot as the coffee I get at a coffee shop (e.g. Starbucks, Caribou Coffee, etc.)

[@Berrypancakes229]

The problems you mentioned here . The spray disperses the water just right. Gets all the coffee grinds wet. I have no complaints .coffee comes out great

[@Brave_Lion]

You know that in a coffee shop they give you espresso, and the "drip coffee maker" makes ANOTHER kind of coffee: filter coffee. Of course it will be colder. It is even undesirable to drink it hot, but it is better to wait until it cools down a bit.

[@teakey]

Gail is Awesome

[@thepiecesfit5049]

I have a Moccamaster and feel the coffee is over extracted. Because if you lift the lid it pours the coffee with a concentration in the center and the outside grinds dont get as much water saturation due to the design. When I buy coffee that has fruit notes I want to taste them, but are mostly lost with the Moccamaster. So I feel like if I dont want fruity coffee it should come from the beans not the brewer. I got a third party shower head and the fruit notes are back in my brews with the Moccamaster. Here is a video I made this morning of the brew process. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIOscoqta7mKlbs

[@alexc.7807]

I know I'm replying to an old comment here, but if you just give the basket a couple stirs throughout the brew this issue is fixed

[@EastofVictoriaPark]

I know this is an old comment, but I'm glad I read it. I, too want to taste the fruit notes when the coffee is supposed to express them. I think the fact that it looks nice and is made by Dutch people instead of Chinese people will expose some biases, both understandable, and not so much.

[@katzparov]

The Mocamaster that I have has the 3 setting brew basket. The basket sits on a round base so that the basket can rotate back and forth. When the water begins to enter the basket, I take off the lid and slowly spin the brew basket back and forth so that water disperses over the entire surface of the grounds. This is only needed for the first minute or so. Then give the basket a little shake to get the grounds off of the sides. At that point you can probably leave it alone and let the brew cycle complete. Once all the water is dispersed, I give the basket a little shake to help get a flat bed during the drawdown.

[@missyknoll3714]

does the Breville have copper heating element?

[@Berrypancakes229]

No. Stainless steel

[@Headhunter-5000]

Breville == Sage?

[@nicolasrogner4172]

Great review. I can tell you know your stuff

[@pinkpinsofpain]

Technivorm!😍

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

It's a classic!

[@juggernaut316]

3:38 comes down to this

[@Stigm410]

Lol when she said the Breville was made in China and only a one year warranty. That just decided it for me. I don’t want that cheap thing. Lemme take the Moccamaster! Sorry Breville😂😂😂😂🤣

[@deathfire096]

Breville is not cheap. If it was made in Europe with a 5 year warranty, it would cost 2 to 3 times more. That shows you how cheap the technivorm is. You think they pay their employees high wages and add 5 year warranty for free? you are paying for it. For Breville to keep it in the same price range they have to pay lower wages to make it and 1 year warranty. If not, it would cost 2 to 3 times to own a Breville.

[@lisaharris7327]

I go with Moccamaster.

[@ravieprasaud4527]

I was going with techniworm but I was thinking I drink all coffee, ice, cold brew, hot so Breville it is.

[@adamrant4138]

Be careful, cold brew is a problem on this machine !

[@jakespur6094]

Will never buy another Breville product again due to the support from the company here in Canada.

[@OldGlory_EC]

Agreed

[@mikecoffee100]

Great vid as usual

[@randallanderson9150]

Have you ever done a test comparing a French Press against the Technivorm? I'm currently using the French Press method, love the coffee but hate the clean up and hands on. I would be willing to invest in the Technivorm if it could compare.

[@jameshite4820]

Randall Anderson - we’ve French presses every day for the last 16 years. What clean up are you referring to?? Press, pour, enjoy - rinse out, done. I find it supper easy!

[@randallanderson9150]

@@jameshite4820 I take mine completely apart Everytime I use it to clean the screen filter.

[@wallymarcel1]

Technivorm is like a bad boyfriend I keep going back to then kicking him out again after three months because I realized my first instincts were correct. When I first bought one twenty years ago it was a great machine and lasted ten years. Now they have cheapened the manufacturing so bad that the half pot setting on the filter is almost impossible to lock-in. The glass pot is so thin it’s a joke. The coffee is hot but bitter. I’ve probably bought five of these machines since the original, latest one three months ago, same results, and now he has been banished to the high cupboard in my kitchen. I bought the Breville this weekend but have not tried it. We’ll see. All I want is a machine that gives me French press delights with less hassle. We’ll see...

[@zacharydeuell1886]

wallymarcel1 how do you like the machine, I’m looking into getting the Breville but I’m cautious, I’m curious of what you think since you’ve used both?

[@wallymarcel1]

Zachary Deuell I don’t care for either. Breville to me does not get hot enough. Fast brew is hot but gold or my brew sits too long up top so when the coffee comes out you still have to nuke it to get it really hot. For 300 bucks’ I think not. Technivorm used to be good now parts are cheap. Carafe cheap and the switch on the filter holder which has three adjustments ( open/ half open so it brews slower/ and closed so you can grab a quick cup before it’s finished) is so cheaply made now you can’t really even flip it to the middle setting.The original machine I had a decade ago and lasted ten years, made great coffee and was not made with these cheap parts. Coffee hot but taste is metallic. I still have the Technivorm but it’s on a high shelf in my cupboard. I ended up( for now anyway) getting a Cuisinart, the newer model , and it’s fine. not perfect but fine and hot. When I want a really good cup of hot coffee I go back to my French press and at some point in the future I’m going to chuck all these high end home brewers for a professional Curtis and try to get the great taste I get from a local restaurant I go to in my ‘hood. Hope that answers it for you.

[@GabrielDelPinoC]

2 things, 1) 220v anyone?, 2) ground size?, thanks, great video as alaways!

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

Hi Gabriel! Are you asking about 220v options?

[@GabrielDelPinoC]

yes thank you

[@PhreakDarkSoul]

@@GabrielDelPinoC In Europ (Germany) the brand "Breville" seems to be named "Sage" and I guess that it supports of course 220/230 V if the brand name is Sage.

[@alekzzisrec]

Technivorm lookzz cute :)

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

It's a really good looking machine!

[@MrJrgrant]

I’ve read recently that Moccamaster’s made in the Netherlands/Holland are counterfeit and that real Technivorm product is from Belgium. In the opening of this video the reviewer states country of origin for Breville is China, Technivorm Holland. I believe this is an error.

[@spartansfan1026]

Came across this today. Turns out that this claim that Technivorm is Belgian is actually the result of an extremely odd trolling campaign by the moderator of the Technivorm forum on Reddit.

[@MrJrgrant]

@@spartansfan1026 Yes, I was fooled by this as well. Sorry to be guilty of spreading this misinformation! I am now a happy owner of a Moccamaster - it is truly an awesome machine!

[@spartansfan1026]

@@MrJrgrant I wouldn't feel badly about it, I was also tricked and greatly confused by this. I had to go a little out of my way to find out what was happening. Anyway I'll soon be joining the club. I bought a refurbished Moccamaster KB from the website yesterday.

[@az5654]

Made in China vs made in Holland. That one is a no-brainer.

[@NiGHTSChao689]

Hey Seattle Coffee Gear, do you happen to know if you can use a metal cone filter in the Breville Precision Brewer????

[@ay6774]

Yes, it takes the gold plated mesh baskets as well. And paper filters for small brew size.

[@Rondalph]

In the beginning there was nothing. Then Techniworm created Moccamaster for the Lord so Creation could take place. This is the way. This is the way.

[@wan2852]

Have had two Mocha Masters that failed, one with a dangerous short. Neither lasted 2 years.

[@davidinmd712]

Is it possible to get Borer Beetle free coffee or are all the world coffees effected by them? David Steiner, owner of Hawaii White Mountain Javaloha Coffee claims his coffee is Borer Beetle free... If I understand it correctly this pest adds to beans bitterness. Comments?

[@jimmorgan6213]

David inMD, very plausible that it would add to bitterness because plants generally respond to herbivore attacks by making themselves less palatable

[@santiagodraco]

Is this the "Precision Brewer Thermal"?

[@joeladamshapiro]

Santiago Draco yes Santiago I believe that means the Precision Brewer with Thermal Carafe (versus glass carafe)

[@PeaceChanel]

Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .. 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊

[@GardengalAAA]

You should be drinking water between each tasting as it will cleanse your palette, otherwise your taste buds will be skewed in terms of the flavors.

[@klarinetta]

Gail you said the temperature from each carafe and then you tasted the cups and you can tell which is which right away. Of course you will get frutier cup with Ethiopian coffee by taking the temperature down.

[@SeattleCoffeeGear]

The temperature variable will definitely have an effect for sure! Great point Stefan!