This has to be one of my favorite deck tech's that you have done. I've been thinking about making a Breya EDH deck and this just put me over the top. You've given me a great start to the deck. Can't wait to finish it and test it out. Thanks, DJ!!!!
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Alright, this is where you all turn on me ... many have mentioned Saheeli Rai and I want to explain why I don't think she is very good in this deck or in most commander strategies. Planeswalkers have a higher barrier to entry in multiplayer formats because they are vulnerable over multiple opponents' turns. This is not to say that planeswalkers are bad but they can see a reduction in power level. Planeswalkers can have a weaker +1 and still be powerful so I will not be overly critical of Saheeli's. Her +1 ( Scry 1. Saheeli Rai deals 1 damage to each opponent.) is card selection and incidental damage ... sounds OK. I probably wouldn't pay 1RU for a sorcery spell that said scry 3 and 3 damage to a player. It's like a harder to cast and less flexible big magma jet, gross. But I should not spend time criticizing the +1 because no one is claiming that it is powerful. The minus ability is usually the instant payoff for a planeswalker. They can draw you cards, create a creature, kill something, basically give you a tangible advantage. Saheeli's -2 (Create a token that's a copy of target artifact or creature you control, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. That token gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step.) Making another creature with an ETB effect is awesome. I have dreams of making a Myr Battlesphere or a Combustible Gearhulk. It sucks that the creature has to exile itself at the end of turn and I hate that I can't copy an opponent's creature. Why should I settle for these limitations when the classic clones in commander stick around and can copy any threat on the table. Phyrexian Metamorph, Clever Impersonator, Stunt Double, Dack's Duplicate, Phantasmal Image, Rite of Replication, Stolen Identity (a favorite), Altered Ego, and even Saheeli's Artistry. All of these cards have a little different niche that give our clone effects some flavor. I see these cards at commander tables. Do you see commander players clamoring to play twinflame and heat shimmer? I like the -2 but I'm not willing to pay 1RU for it. I don't feel like I can reliably activate the -2 more than once if I have anything good on the battlefield to copy. She is very vulnerable and inflexible. That is a bad combination in commander. Saheeli can be powerful if you abuse her. Her ultimate is game winning. That should not be overlooked. You can also combo off with her. You can liquimetal coating her into an artifact, copy herself, legend rule the original, then make infinite copies of the now artifact-ed walker, winning with a disciple of the vault. That sounds AWESOME. I would do that. But this interaction is so narrow and corner case. Please test her and tell me how she performs. Just remember that when you test a card be really critical of how it performs in all situations. Get out those pitchforks ... tell me what you think!
@HavocTheWendigo8 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander the U/B Tez could be tried too lol
@lemonBassdrops8 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander Point well made. I think you can jam her in if you have open slots in the deck or if you really really want to cram as many win combos as you can.
@Tae_Grixis6 жыл бұрын
Good point. I'm cutting her from my deck now. She's good, but I hardly use her in the first place. I wish you could flip her first two abilities and the symbols in front of them. +2 to create a token is way better but I guess we won't be seeing that for artifacts for a long time, if ever.
@PaulGaither6 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander - @11:25 you go on and on about a bunch of hopps to jump through for a janky combo, then write what you did above? If we are going balls to the wall combo, then we should have seen Bomberman combo by now or something better than what you are showing at 11:25.
@alexedingfield52226 жыл бұрын
My first edh deck was daretti and almost top 8’ed a modern GP with affinity. Suffice it to say that I love artifacts! This deck tech is awesome. I also love your channel, your enthusiasm and contribution to the format is amazing so thank you! Keep up the good work!
@obeycelestia8 жыл бұрын
I think this is quietly the strongest commander to come out of this product and she will be underrated for a while. Breya is the new Tasigur, imo. Her ability is good, but a little overcosted... until you have infinite stuff to work with then you just win straight outta the command zone. There are a few combos I noticed you missing that might work well for her (I'm testing these): Pili-Pala + Grand Architect - infinite colored mana Animate Dead + Worldgorger Dragon - with Breya on the field you can just stack the loop and kill everyone and everything Since Breya can sacrifice herself any infinite mana loop with colored mana should be enough to finish a game.
@Azelai7772 жыл бұрын
Fr artifacts mana ramp naturally and you can spam her 2, it doesn't tap. Letting you kill big creatures, players with very high dmg, or gain tons of health. She's very good
@cullenkelley48288 жыл бұрын
I love this commander. Although I am stuck with the struggle of affording many of the key cards to build a full combo deck. I currently run a interesting breya that uses combos to end people. But to give me time I have nasty amounts of thopters to trigger things like sharding sphinx. I am able to do what I always wanted to do, go wider than anyone with artifacts that fly. So much fun.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
I have been impressed at how relevant Breya is with blockers and -4/-4. It's a nice bit of control to stall until you get the combo off. I don't run ALL the possible combos in my personal version and I think I prefer it. Good luck tinkering!
@dannyzep928 жыл бұрын
My favorite commander from this release by far. Thanks for all the tech
@HavocTheWendigo8 жыл бұрын
Omg someone who knows about bitter ordeal;u; your are truly the first person I know who knows about that card.lol I play it in my mill deck I'll usually mill for 15 then rip lands out of someone's library, it can mana screw them but more importantly all those cards that mill till they hit a land, far Better when there are only a few lands left lol Btw sir this deck seems fun and strong I will probably be trying it out lol
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
It's so cool right?!?! I love that it is the only card with Gravestorm. I'm also a fan of Sadistic Sacrament. Maybe I take too much joy out of neutering combo decks and color screwing greedy mana bases?
@jebuslivephish8 жыл бұрын
So mill doesnt work with bitter ordeal, unfortunately. Permanents must be not card type but actual permanents on the battlefield which enter into the graveyard. This is how gravestorm works.
@HavocTheWendigo8 жыл бұрын
Andrew Fisher ohhhhhhh well I play that fairy mill commander so it still works very well but meren loves it lol
@hikuraitenmasu72838 жыл бұрын
I love your deck tech! Beautiful deck and I would love to see videos of this deck going against others!
@BigTibbs788 жыл бұрын
Btw really impressed by the quality of your videos. U deserve more subscribers for sure.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I hope that I make videos people like but I'm really pleased with all of the great support I already have. Cheers!
@killer11168 жыл бұрын
Hey Jumbo so I love my Karrthus but I am going to build this one as well. Love all of your deck lists. Can't wait to play with this one.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
This is a good balance to DRAGONS!!!! I love turning dragons sideways but sometimes you want to mix it up. i have a thopters build I'm working on. It would be funny if your decks were massive flying dragons and little flying thopters LOL.
@smipth8 жыл бұрын
I really like this build. It boils the essentials down to a few combos and gives really decent support to those combos. A couple of cards are outside my budget but its ok I'm a big boy i can fill in the blanks. Thanks much.
@borislibaque15583 жыл бұрын
I love the complex synergies!!!!!!! I'm totally going to try to build something like this now :)
@guillermojrboy32928 жыл бұрын
"Johnny" EDH players know Breya is good. I had artifact shenanigans in my Ashling the Pilgrim deck. Being mono red, it doesn't get there consistently. Having access to blue is a huge advantage. Not to mention black and white.
@chubbygrunt908 жыл бұрын
Hey, I dont think I heard Saheeli Rai in the deck and I was curious as to what you thought about her
@SeekingKnight8 жыл бұрын
Love it! Never thought of using artifacts in this way. Nice job!
@metalsabatico8 жыл бұрын
no mycosynth lattice in this deck is blasphemy. you could steal any permanent with dack fayden. play hellkite tyrant, hit someone with it and steal that player's board and most likely win next turn. overloaded vandalblast? apocalypse everyone but you.
@Guavamente7 жыл бұрын
Sounds fun! Hellkite Tyrant is an amazing way to win a game love the idea! But I feel that would only work if you play 1v1 and have absurd amounts of mana (although I admit this deck has no issues producing colorless mana). With this deck you'll most likely hit a combo sooner since not only do they cost less and you can tutor for all pieces required, but Hellkite Tyrant is NOT tutor-able even with lattice out, and is a waste of a card slot when drawn early game as well (not to mention easily countered or kill carded, also does NOT have haste! you'll turn a lot of heads when you have a win con sitting for a whole turn )
@vantheman80508 жыл бұрын
This is a sweet deck! Glad to see this video. However, I am very surprised not to see sharding sphinx. It creates exponential thopters that can be sacked or just win the game plus it has a hilarious name. Usually your opponents need a board "wipe" to deal with it! But This deck will definitely help me figure out what I should put in my deck. I think I am going to go a little less combo heavy because I already have a Arjun combo deck that is fun to play.
@vantheman80508 жыл бұрын
Also Ugin's nexus is pretty much an instant speed time walk for 2 mana plus you sacrifice an artifact with your commander out.
@jasonwallace28656 жыл бұрын
How many lands, artifacts, enchantments, creatures, Planeswalker,instant, and sorcery's are in this deck? I couldn't find out in this video.
@andrewmclaren92185 жыл бұрын
Still playing the hell out of her she’s so fun!
@jonq53802 жыл бұрын
Any chance we can get an updated version of this deck for 2023?
@jonq53804 жыл бұрын
Hey friend. Just picked up 2XM, working on building my own Breya deck. Is there any chance you'd consider a vid updating this deck considering how many new cards have been released since you made this vid? Or would you just keep it the way it is? Regardless, thanks for this amazing vid! I'm definitely going to follow your template (but... I'm gonna modify it so that it doesn't cost FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS 🤣🤣)
@akutaatsu86758 жыл бұрын
Another Combo If I'm correct is Infinite Mana with sharuum and Ashnods Altar, Because You can sac Sharuum with her Trigger On the Stack and then bring her back with her Own trigger, if im correct.
@StrongButAwkward8 жыл бұрын
Wild Guess and Tormenting Voice seem like they should be in there with Reunion. I actually prefer them over Looting. Additionally have you considering Feldon of the Third Path, or additionally any sort of blinking strategies that can abuse Breya for token generation.
@FoolsVerse8 жыл бұрын
I'm going the eggs route and going through my deck completely by like turn 6-7 but some of the cards on this list will help thinks for the ideas.
@BigTibbs788 жыл бұрын
you only need to do 21 damage with breya's lighning bolt ability since its commander damage. thats only 7 activations which is pretty easy in your build. btw super good way to get around pillow fort decks.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Pillowfort strategies are very popular in my meta so I think Breya may be a good answer. Unfortunately, commander damage is only calculated as combat damage but I still think the bolt ability is relevant damage.
@BigTibbs788 жыл бұрын
o my bad lol
@d9_10567 жыл бұрын
I use ramos as my commander for green. Parralel lives, anointed procession, and doubling season are game breaking with this type of deck
@highdark48 жыл бұрын
love your channel and videos, bruh
@Rahziel7778 жыл бұрын
You were on the same page as wotc with Daretti en Sharuum.
@AndrewJFO7 жыл бұрын
Consider adding a Magus of the Unseen - good budget option for additional sac targets
@steleo19838 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander :: This is a very interesting deck and I am loving it BIG time... Breya is my girl as well... There are so many that can be done with these 4 colors White - Destroy spells; Exile spells Blue - Counter spells; Copy spells; Duplicate spells; Draw spells Black - Reanimator spells; Destroy spells; Forcing opponent to sacrifice creature spells Red - Gives haste; Gives double strike Below are the combos available in this theme (I prefer combo than head-on aggro) - Token / Thopter / Servo generating combo - Eldrazi Displacer combo - Whirler Rogue combo - Thopter Spy Network - Hangarback Walker - Pia and Kiran - Avacyn - All gearhulk (except for green) - Turn all permanents on battlefield to Artifact and take control of them all combo - Turn all permanents on battlefield to Artifact and destroy all Artifact combo - Pick an opponent and turn one color of his / her basic land type to Artifact and destroy all from hand + battlefield + library combo (if that person is playing mono color, then that person can concede from the game) - Drain life & gain life 2-piece combo - Artifact recursion combo - Some Artifact base combo Kaladesh provides us with vehicles and energy counter producers that can be used to boost this deck too. Planeswalkers that might be a valuable add-on to enhance this deck further - Nahiri, the Harbinger - Saheeli Rai - Daretti, Scrap Savant - Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast - Karn I can see tons of strategy in this deck and having Silas Renn is good too. I have the concept / idea (but due to the fact that i'm lack of knowledge of all the old cards, it kinda takes a different path) but will you be revisiting this Breya deck tech again after all the cards have been spoiled? The reason is because I believe most of us will just purchase the reconstructed deck and upgrade from there. On a separate note, I am totally intrigued with the idea of having 2 generals in my EDH deck (plus 98 cards). If you do not mind, maybe you can try to come up with a 2 generals type of deck tech... Personally, I'm interested with Silas Renn because he can bring back artifacts from graveyard and the idea of having a lot of token to swarm the board - maybe Tana, the Bloodsower. The deck should have 2 strategies that can be executed individually (if one of the strategies have been shut down - example: Grafdigger Cage or Rest in Peace will shutdown Silas Renn so Tana can continue to create tokens to attack) and also these 2 strategies must compliment each as well.
@treasureberry71548 жыл бұрын
Don't you have to declare targets when sharuum's ability goes on the stack before you sacrifice the other one?
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
It's a tricky interaction and I'm glad you pointed it out for more explanation. I stole and slightly edited this answer from Vulpine (
@obeycelestia8 жыл бұрын
It basically comes down to when something triggers and when the trigger is put on the stack can be different times. Targets are declared when the effect it put on the stack. Combined with the above and you'll see that we cast the clone, it resolves and it's ability triggers. Normally you (the active player) would gain priority and the trigger would be put on the stack (requiring a target) but State Based Actions are checked right before any player gets priority and makes you put one of the Sharuums into the graveyard. After that's taken care of SBAs check for any other state based action shenanigans that might have arisen from the previous corrective action. When that's all done, you get priority, which is when the trigger goes on the stack, and now that Sharuum is in the graveyard she's a legal target. She's a tricky girl! She does love a good selfie. :)
@SeverianTheLame8 жыл бұрын
Stoneforge Mystic is to Nahiri, what Master Transmuter is to Breya.
@oldirtysean008 жыл бұрын
Ive been running a Sharuum combo deck for a while now and I wanted to splash red for a while now. That being said Im not sure if i want to run breya. She's ok as a commander but idk if adding another color is worth losing the consistency that sharuum brings as a commander. Anyways why aren't you running metalworker and goblinwelder. They both are incredibly powerful and not as well know as powerful win cons.
@jays23768 жыл бұрын
Started thinking about Partner combos to build yet? I'm doing a Vial Smasher/Silas Renn artifact deck.
@steleo19838 жыл бұрын
Jay Schnurr :: Nice... Care to share with me? I'm thinking of Silas Renn + Tana
@jays23768 жыл бұрын
Steve Leong Here is the initial list, though I've made some changes. Added Shimmer Myr, Time Sieve, and Thoptor Assembly. Removed Myr Battlesphere, Tezzy the Seeker, Scarecrone. Made a few other small changes.
@steleo19838 жыл бұрын
Jay Schnurr :: Thanks but I was just wondering if you have a decklist created in tappedout or something
@jays23768 жыл бұрын
Oops...forgot to past the link! Sorry. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/edhcommander-silas-renn-vial-smasher/
@SchwarzundWeis4 жыл бұрын
4:07 that artwork is gorgeous, may I ask where you got it from? Would love the artwork to be on a play mat or as an alternative artwork on the card itself
@SkaalKesh4 жыл бұрын
If you mean the background, that’s Master Transmuter.
@Bucket_Boy1018 жыл бұрын
She's also really good to use as the bomb in the Bomberman combo: Auriok Salvagers + Lion's Eye Diamond.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Good call. I have never played bomberman before so I think I need that experience in my life.
@Bucket_Boy1018 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's not highly accessible in commander because only Lion's Eye Diamond works with it and that's a super expensive card for most commander players. If you're like me and have it already, I suggest you give it a try, as it also plays into the eggs strategy (second sunrise, faith's reward) really well.
@Baelric8 жыл бұрын
Any love for grand architect? Seems like that could get out of hand in a hurry.
@morkeulv4956 жыл бұрын
So I just recently pulled off this interesting combo for my Saturday magic day that I wanted to get opinions on, now this isn’t a game winning combo but it is game changing. This combo is prototype portal + sculpting steel. I ended up making 8 signets, 2 darksteel forge, and 3 unwinding clock before my opponents decided this needs to stop. I would have copied creatures but I only had legendary creatures on the field at the time. But what is everyone’s opinion? Because I never thought of it until I had both in my opening hand. What’s your opinion? And I’d love to hear your opinion jumbo commander.
@NotetoSelf92928 жыл бұрын
Dear god... I am so not a combo player. It was fun hearing you get stoked for Breya though. I think I'll stick with my grindy, midrangey Atraxa deck. Hahah
@MrBellasaurus5 жыл бұрын
Isn't it pronounced "meer" battlesphere?
@bensmith61048 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if the sculpting steel/Sharuum combo works because the ETB effect needs to choose a target as it goes onto the stack, before you sacrifice one or the other to the legendary rule.
@Razdasoldier8 жыл бұрын
Ben Smith it does. her ability hits the stack. The board state is checked and one must be sacked. Then the ability resolves and targets sharuum
@risetogether54557 жыл бұрын
This deck is awesome. I would enjoy playing against it. I love artifacts.
@samhparker8 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, great content man!!! i look forward to watching your vids in the future :)
@gabrielmartin77744 жыл бұрын
Where you get the pictures from and what program do you use to make this
@dinnyskips6 жыл бұрын
whats the summoning station combo? pest tokens aren't artefacts
@romina61158 жыл бұрын
your videos are great dude! wish i had found you way sooner!
@MetalSnakeBoogy7 жыл бұрын
Isocron sceptor with supernatural stamina or dramatic reversal and paradox engine with some mana rocks. nuff said.
@thebeowulf48518 жыл бұрын
you gave a hint towards the land base for this deck and it leaves me to wonder what other lands would you recommend for the deck?
@ciprioltean3608 жыл бұрын
Can you please do an Akiri/Bruse Tarl Partnered in an equipment aggro deck?
@AllRegent018 жыл бұрын
A lot of the new planewalkers work well in a deck like this. Saheeli Rai and the new Daretti could be sweet!
@martinsvacek69228 жыл бұрын
Much better tech than Atraxa, thumb up
@opmwatcher968 жыл бұрын
I love this commander! shes my favorite out the new set. I cant wait to build around her. edit:I think a thopter spy network would work great! creates thopters, draws cards, it would help getting to combo pieces a bit faster.
@JustinSullivanMarketing7 жыл бұрын
Along the lines of artifact decks, you should do a kurkesh deck tech. Someone in my group runs him and he's nuts
@JustinSullivanMarketing7 жыл бұрын
The deck. Not the person. Just thought I'd make that clear
@AngelMartinez-kd3fv8 жыл бұрын
Deck looks really fun!
@justinuchiha8568 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me where can I find that image of Breya he has as his background? I really would like to have it as my desktop display.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
I used this one that Wizards shifted to the right for some of my video. magic.wizards.com/sites/mtg/files/images/featured/C16_EventsBlock_Breya-Etherium-Shaper_Production_Inline_RIGHT.jpg
@princepagan5 жыл бұрын
@@JumboCommander Do you have another link?
@shooflies8 жыл бұрын
also i just noticed this but nim deathmantle looks a lot like the head of overseer of the damned
@manuelguerrero36247 жыл бұрын
Can you use Breya s abilities the turn she comes into play? I mean if I have infinite mana (Pili Pala + Grand Architect) can I use her own ability to sac her and a thopter to create infinite thopters to later sac to do infinite damage?
@JumboCommander7 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. Gross huh :)
@Kieda79642 жыл бұрын
nostalgia
@imaginarymatter8 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts/experiences on the new Daretti planeswalker from Conspiracy 2, Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast? I am building a similar deck.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
My experience is none so take my advice with a grain of salt. I think he fun but underwhelming. I am interested in all of his abilities and some even synergize with this deck. His +1 effect is too minor and his -1 is too generic. I'm not looking to make room for him. I know it's not a direct comparison but if I wanted the removal I would much rather run a Kolagon's Command or an anguished unmaking. I should find a slot somewhere because if he isn't in my deck then I will never be able to ultimate him and that looks awesome :)
@rahminh7 жыл бұрын
i added Scourglass for a wrath board that destroys all permanents except artifacts and lands. pretty sweet.
@Michael-fe7ku8 жыл бұрын
does the Breya commander deck in stores have most of these cards and can I build this using the already put together Breya deck to save time. Awesome video love these colors.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Most of these cards are not in the precon. But I made a budget upgrade video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGiklWyVf6-Ub80&lc=z120hxzjyxfgv3uak04cdrnxhpftgz0rcjc It is not the same deck but eventually you can add combo pieces and synergies. Good luck building!
@nathones8 жыл бұрын
Great step by step deck tech!! What are your thoughts on Ancient Excavation?
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! On Ancient Excavation, I love that the "windfall" is better than a traditional windfall because of the insane card selection but I hate that it is card disadvantage. The flexibility of land cycle is good but am I really happy playing this card in any "mode"? Honestly I think it would be good if it was just a little pushed in any direction but as it stands I can't find a deck I want to play it in ... and I own a lot of decks. It's a neat effect. Someone please convince me to play this card!
@floriangrader-beck72804 жыл бұрын
Hey Jumbo Commander! This is a bit of a corner case, but I’ve been playing a lot of my Breya combo deck recently, and in two specific instances, I’ve chained Ancient Excavation into Scrap Mastery, discarding all my artifacts and getting all of my combo pieces back onto the battlefield in a single turn! Granted, on its own, Ancient Excavation is card disadvantage, but my deck has a recursion sub theme, so loot-type effects are actually card advantage since the cards in my graveyard are just another resource I can get for free with cards like Daretti, Sharuum, Goblin Welder, and of course, Scrap Mastery.
@xakuyer8 жыл бұрын
Could you do some older commanders deck tech, i really need some advices on Nekusar(to abuse his draw effect)
@Shinobi915857 жыл бұрын
xakuyer wedge on themanasourse has a good vid on Nekusar its not tier one but it is hilariously fun to play if you enjoy being the target that everyone hits a nice little interaction he doesn't add to his deck is a way to give nekusar infect every time an opponent draws the get a poison counter per card drawn
@561fergie8 жыл бұрын
thank you soo much. I love your take on Breya. Especially the use of the graveborn synergy. :D Do you have a recommended manabase that youve been able to establish?
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Good question. Right now I answer the complicated mana base by throwing money at it -- ABUR Duals, Fetches, and Shocks make up half the mana base. I firmly believe that there are great budget ways of playing 4-colors (I know because I have budget 5-color mana bases). I'm excited to play with the preconstructed decks as is and get a real feel for how wizards built their mana.
@561fergie8 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander awesome. Ill get to work testing the mana. I cant wait for the precons either. My friends and I always play the 5 against each other on release day. Im so excited for Breya and Yidris. Hope to see a Yidris video soon. I feel like making it creature related but the thought of a cascading, spell flinging, ogre wizard sounds soo fun!
@CheeZbredDawG7 жыл бұрын
Does Breya's activated ability that does 3 damage to target player count as commander damage?
@Shinobi915857 жыл бұрын
CheeZbredDawG no commander damage is only done by combat damage not activated ability damage however phyresis on Breya would give poison counters for the three damage
@ginoginoh8 жыл бұрын
Professor brought me here :)
@misternegrete66386 жыл бұрын
I think reckless fireweaver could be pretty good in the deck.
@aqure98 жыл бұрын
would a metallurgic summoning izzet deck work with her
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
I instantly slotted my metallurgic summonings into my Mizzix of the Izmagnus deck. I think this could make a great 4 color spells commander but there are other commanders out there that might synergize better.
@aqure98 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander OK who would you recommend over her
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
I think that the key to any spells deck is momentum. So a general with card draw or mana cheating synergies would be ideal. Mizzix, Jori En, Nekusar, Maelstrom Wanderer, Rashmi, but I did not want to discourage you from Breya. If you like her color identity then go for it; I'm sure you can brew a really great spells deck.
@TheConnor1138 жыл бұрын
Love you channel m8 was wondering if u could make a deck tech on yidris maelstrom wielder
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
He's on the way. Glad you like the channel. Cheers.
@Momentomori9168 жыл бұрын
Hey Jumbo Commander. Great vid! I'm wondering, what are some good options if I have all these cards but do not have tundra, volcanic island, etc. those can get pretty expensive and any recommended subs would be highly appreciated
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have been fixing mana issues by throwing money at it with those overpriced duals. It was lazy of me, sorry. I would argue that on-color fetchlands are critical. I also like the Panoramas a lot. One of my favorite duals in commander are the Scry lands. A tapped dual can be annoying, but in many situations this land can be very close to "draw a card". I hope these substitutes help. Glad you liked the video.
@Momentomori9168 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander awesome and quick response. Definitely happy with your vids. Thank you Sir
@shooflies8 жыл бұрын
esper has a lot to bring back artifacts grixis can go hard into sac effects thats y i see value in her abilities dictate of erabos doesnt care if the creature is an artifact too
@Taiyougetsu138 жыл бұрын
Your Sharuum loop doesn't work. You have to choose a target with the copy of Sharuum before the state based action puts the original Sharuum into your graveyard.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
It's a tricky interaction and I'm glad you pointed it out for more explanation. I stole this from a previous post and slightly edited this answer from Vulpine (
@weasley_reviews1438 жыл бұрын
what's a rough estimate of what all these cards together will cost? anyone?
@AndrewWoodford7 жыл бұрын
Weasley_Reviews $2000
@AedalinSolaris8 жыл бұрын
No metal worker??? It is soooo good, generates a ton of mana!!!!
@MyBrosephstalin8 жыл бұрын
Are the infinite combos fun and/or interesting for your play group or is it just a matter of wanting to win for the sake of winning? Just curious.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
It depends on what decks everyone is playing. If things are unbalanced then the gameplay sucks but I try and ask people what power level of deck they are piloting and we all pick decks accordingly.
@Jsap1698 жыл бұрын
have you ever thought of putting current prices under the cards on the screen?
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
I have. I think for these decks it may be problematic because the prices can be all over the place for these new cards. I do include the tappedout decklist so you can see a lot of current and real-time pricing. I will also be creating budget builds using the precons soon after release.
@serenades6668 жыл бұрын
liked and subbed. you have a good funny story telling voice and was very easy to follow. thanks for the great video and for the ideas! i just need $$$ first -.- lol.
@SolidusRockefeller8 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Kyneios and Tiro one. Group Hug is just too plain... maybe a landfall? card draw?
@ZakanaHachihaCBC8 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Rockefeller Group Hug into Jeskai Ascendancy Combo is my plan with them.
@Razdasoldier8 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Rockefeller The best super friends?
@Zero4revolution8 жыл бұрын
I want that Urza with giant thopter wallpaper NOW ! :) Can someone pass the link ? btw great video :)
@sertaki8 жыл бұрын
I share your need :O
@2006Eskimo8 жыл бұрын
Hi I really enjoyed your video, and I really like the direction you took this deck. Sorry if this is a tedious question to answer, but I am new and really liked the changes you made to the precon deck, my question is how can I accomplish the same plan as this deck while remaining on a budget. I am willing to spend up to 100 dollars. Thank you for taking the time to help me.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Good question. I'm working on "upgrade" videos where I'm going to try and make an awesome deck for $100 total. So $65 in upgrades. My timeline for those is in the next few weeks. I would begin by adding Ashnod's Altar and Krark-Clan Ironworks because they are just great (but also combo pieces). Start playing with most of the deck intact or making upgrades that you already own. Marionette Master & Padeem, Consul of Innovation are almost draft chaff and would be a great inclusion as well. Eldrazi Displacer is $5 but works really well with so many decks I think that might be a critical pickup. Trinket mage and treasure mage are really cheap and they have really great targets in this deck. Hopefully that gives you a good start. I'll make a more comprehensive strategy in a future video. Thanks for the question!
@2006Eskimo8 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for the reply @JumboCommander. That sounds awesome, I am excited to see thoroughly explained videos on budget upgrades for the commander 2016 decks. Your content is extremely helpful and I am sure you will have great things to say about budget upgrades for the rest of the decks. Okay sounds perfect, these cards will definitely steer me in the right direction. I am okay with spending $10 on a card if it is crucial for the deck to function and keep it's identity, and I think Eldrazi Displacer will be worth the $5. How about Dack Fayden, I really want to pick him up, but his price seems a bit steep. Would replacing him with a generic draw 2/3 cards and discard 2/3 cards provide similar results?
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
On Dack, right now I have him sitting at $17 and in my mind that isn't worth the effect he provides. Don't get me wrong ... stealing artifacts is awesome and hilarious but I believe your money would be better spent elsewhere. The card draw in the deck may be fine. You can even try the new Ancient Excavation and see how that works.
@2006Eskimo8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, thank you for your input, I appreciate you taking the time to give me advice. Can't wait to see what you have in store!
@keetakitten8 жыл бұрын
Awesome deck!
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus82998 жыл бұрын
Breya loves her Panharmicon
@panzerfaust1878 жыл бұрын
Is this deck and format also good/fine to play 1 vs 1 ???
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
It's great in 1v1 just make sure to include some cheap interaction (stuff that messes up your opponent on turns 1-3).
@aqure98 жыл бұрын
I love you for this
@WindchaserX8 жыл бұрын
Altar of the Brood / Disciple of the Vault + Liquidmetal Coating + Saheeli Rai ...gg for X opponents.
@OcioRetro8 жыл бұрын
awesome combos!
@lemonBassdrops8 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure most mox artifacts are banned in commander.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Of the 10 cards in magic that have mox in the name 7 are banned in commander (the 5 original single color moxen, jack-in-the-mox from unglued, and mox lotus from unhinged). Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox and Mox Opal are all legal in commander and can be very powerful.
@lemonBassdrops8 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Commander Thank you, much appreciated.
@taylorfoley37078 жыл бұрын
Chrome Mox?
@Isheian8 жыл бұрын
And now I want it.
@MajinMaster978 жыл бұрын
I dislike playing Blightsteel Colossus because it is, honestly, a no-fun-zone card. Blightsteel is a card that comes out and suddenly nobody is enjoying playing with your deck anymore, and to me, Commander is all about having fun, and if the table isn't enjoying themselves then it's a wasted effort. So I run the original Darksteel Colossus instead. It's still a great beatstick but it doesn't immediately pin you as "that-asshole-with-the-artifact-deck", and overall is just a much less toxic card in general. Of course this varies by play group, but I feel like that's the majority of groups I've been in and observed.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Great observation and suggestion for replacement. I like your "playgroup dependant" phrase too. Thanks for the great comment! Plus Darksteel Colossus almost looks like a cute giant monster; I'd be friends with that golem.
@wemilologsdon61898 жыл бұрын
no George? world gorge plus reanimation spell on him is gross with breya
@Philson8 жыл бұрын
So many Murs!
@Tae_Grixis6 жыл бұрын
Myrs*
@LessAlex6 жыл бұрын
Good video!
@pyriclust8 жыл бұрын
I had a nephilim deck that Breya replaced. I was very happy when she was spoiled. My playgroup is very laid back and doesn't really like some of the faster combos. But! I really like the synergies and flexibility that you have here, and I'll be incorporating some of these into my deck, thanks for the video and keep up the work! Also, I'd just built a Hanna deck about a week before you'd posted your video on her =P. Mine is much more stax focused though. Anyway, thanks and I really look forward to more from you. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tilling-up-treasures/
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Great List! I'm glad you liked Hana (kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGi6mX5jaMahsMU) and she is reprinted with her promo art in this new set. Thanks for the kind words!
@hunterkeiser61217 жыл бұрын
Hmm..,.needs more dragonshift
@TheTentmaker578 жыл бұрын
Isn't Sharuum just way better?
@n0bunga8 жыл бұрын
As a general, yeah. But adding that extra colour goes a long way.
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Yes, I believe she is better. I mentioned the joy of "Scrap Mastery" to another person in the comments. One advantage of this general could be that if Sharuum is your commander then you always win with her. This deck has a lot of different ways to win making it really fun to play. I will leave you with the immortal words of Daretti himself: "Where a lesser mind sees junk, I see infinite potential." I love Daretti :)
@n0bunga8 жыл бұрын
Speaking of, new Daretti might go places in this deck for the token generation, artifact copying, and sacrificing.
@DankTrainTom8 жыл бұрын
needs Vandalblast+Mycosynth Lattice
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
or Hurkyl's Recall? YOU MONSTER! I like the way you think :)
@joesneesby58076 жыл бұрын
Underwhelming activated ability? That's ridiculous. who thinks that?
@zapcuno82717 жыл бұрын
how does breya super friends sound
@emregulen32878 жыл бұрын
Why no love for Pia and Kiran Nalaar :( wait are you guys Tezzeret supporters o_O
@JumboCommander8 жыл бұрын
Hey, he's changed, he's here on Kaladesh and he's like ... judging science fairs. Everything's gonna be fine.