Brian Jones: Karl Marx and the US Civil War

[@SilvaOnTube]

Marx's extensive analysis of the confederate states, pointing out the large dissent that existed against slavery while controlled by a tiny minority of very rich slave owners that managed to "frame" the message and debate echoes strongly with today's tiny minority elite rich influencing political debate by their ability to control messaging through their great power and wealth.

[@MelancoliaI]

Hell, I remember hearing something about Confederate leadership introducing slavery for poor whites as a sort of debt-servitude.

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

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[@SilvaOnTube]

Marx argued that the confederate South started the whole Civil War as a plan of expansion to take over the whole country. Do you see a pattern? Does this sound like some political movement today? Marx's cogent analysis of slavery as a tool of tiny oligarchy is extremely relevant today.

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

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[@laurafair-schulz683]

he is awesome come to Socialism 2017 in Chicago, he comes every year. He's genuine.

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Join us! A podcast on the life of Communist Union General August Willich with the author of the only biography ever written about this incredible figure! A german revolutionary of 1848 who tried to seduce Karl Marxs wife to the point where a duel ensued, he immigrated to America and led entire regiments of germans into the jaws of Dixie while playing the revolutionary anthem of France! He kicked confederate ass all the way to Georgia, viewing the Civil war as strictly about slavery and as a challenge to capitalism! Please join us in celebration of this incredible hero of the left that has been erased from our history books! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDMhnmpjs2reMk

[@tucsonairbrush3233]

Excellent

[@icantthinkimaybedead]

What a great talker!! (great talk too!!)

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Join us! A podcast on the life of Communist Union General August Willich with the author of the only biography ever written about this incredible figure! A german revolutionary of 1848 who tried to seduce Karl Marxs wife to the point where a duel ensued, he immigrated to America and led entire regiments of germans into the jaws of Dixie while playing the revolutionary anthem of France! He kicked confederate ass all the way to Georgia, viewing the Civil war as strictly about slavery and as a challenge to capitalism! Please join us in celebration of this incredible hero of the left that has been erased from our history books! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDMhnmpjs2reMk

[@perstephanies]

I had no idea, and this presentation really sparked my curiosity. Great speaker. Great lecture.

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Join us! A podcast on the life of Communist Union General August Willich with the author of the only biography ever written about this incredible figure! A german revolutionary of 1848 who tried to seduce Karl Marxs wife to the point where a duel ensued, he immigrated to America and led entire regiments of germans into the jaws of Dixie while playing the revolutionary anthem of France! He kicked confederate ass all the way to Georgia, viewing the Civil war as strictly about slavery and as a challenge to capitalism! Please join us in celebration of this incredible hero of the left that has been erased from our history books! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDMhnmpjs2reMk

[@Treklosopher]

I learned more about the dimensions of the U.S. Civil War in these 37 minutes than in hours of Civil War lectures from college. Not to say that those aren't a useful in their own way.

[@timothyvilgiate8164]

Re: Something said early on. Fragments, I think, can be more illuminating than manuscripts sometimes in trying to understand someone’s thinking. Glad to have found this presentation though

[@KemetNubian1]

Thanks much for the eloquent explanation.

[@007Spadge]

I'm reminded of Dante, and how the Italians re-read and re-interpreted his works based on what was relevant at each time. Same is true for Marx. He is re-read often, and the interpretation is dependent on the political views of the one doing the interpreting. It's certainly an interesting seminar, and these ideas are worth exploring, what I really enjoyed are the historical sources and anecdotes. Nice crossovers between the two here. It's weird to think that Marxists and Republicans used to be on the same side. I'm currently working on Karl Marx and his view on the American Revolution, I'm tempted to work on the secession too however, because it's also a very interesting subject. I'll dive into historic material a little further on occasion and look for corroborations of this man's thesis. It's certainly an interesting one.

[@kenbowser5622]

When the political, privileged and wealthy hand over their power and wealth to the greater good, let me know.

[@gregorycastro2459]

perfect...

[@Shigawire]

Great talk. The speaker Brian Jones said that Karl Marx never set a foot in the United States. But I thought that Karl Marx worked as a journalist in New York City. Did he only work in this press from afar?

[@allancastellon9248]

He never lived in the US but he sent his articles from the UK to the Chicago Tribune

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Join us! A podcast on the life of Communist Union General August Willich with the author of the only biography ever written about this incredible figure! A german revolutionary of 1848 who tried to seduce Karl Marxs wife to the point where a duel ensued, he immigrated to America and led entire regiments of germans into the jaws of Dixie while playing the revolutionary anthem of France! He kicked confederate ass all the way to Georgia, viewing the Civil war as strictly about slavery and as a challenge to capitalism! Please join us in celebration of this incredible hero of the left that has been erased from our history books! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDMhnmpjs2reMk

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

You should give our show a listen, we are talking all about this stuff with a historian and author and it is mind blowing how many of marxs fellow revolutionists from 1848 came to America and joined the union army!

[@TiberiusGracchus123]

Marx was the foreign corespondent for the early Republican Party’s #1 periodical, the NY Tribune, I think (Horace Greeley’s periodical). Marx observed & wrote from afar.

[@gregorycastro2459]

good too watch...I did not know people knew of this.

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Join us! A podcast on the life of Communist Union General August Willich with the author of the only biography ever written about this incredible figure! A german revolutionary of 1848 who tried to seduce Karl Marxs wife to the point where a duel ensued, he immigrated to America and led entire regiments of germans into the jaws of Dixie while playing the revolutionary anthem of France! He kicked confederate ass all the way to Georgia, viewing the Civil war as strictly about slavery and as a challenge to capitalism! Please join us in celebration of this incredible hero of the left that has been erased from our history books! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDMhnmpjs2reMk

[@iBishopEsquire]

This dude killed it. I need to check more for this man. Who the phuq is he?

[@dovstruzer3610]

He 's Brian Jones ,a socialist activist of the workers socialist org of america

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Join us! A podcast on the life of Communist Union General August Willich with the author of the only biography ever written about this incredible figure! A german revolutionary of 1848 who tried to seduce Karl Marxs wife to the point where a duel ensued, he immigrated to America and led entire regiments of germans into the jaws of Dixie while playing the revolutionary anthem of France! He kicked confederate ass all the way to Georgia, viewing the Civil war as strictly about slavery and as a challenge to capitalism! Please join us in celebration of this incredible hero of the left that has been erased from our history books! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDMhnmpjs2reMk

[@modelemployee]

Good stuff.

[@djbroneill]

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[@zindaix396]

I'm from the south and this puts a whole new perspective on who really deserved rights back then

[@TheWitty135]

Fascinating lecture. What's the song in the intro?

[@kylecicalese6759]

"Seasons" - Son of Nun and DJ Mentos kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3LGhYCvebeBo9U

[@RosaLichtenstein01]

Good to see I can agree with Brian on this topic (and I suspect about much else besides), even if we disagree over dialectics!

[@justmehello5543]

Douglass was taught by his southern owners wife.

[@soulfuzz368]

A really interesting experiment: Every time he says “capitalism” replace it with industrialization. I found that some of the contradictions disappeared and the criticisms became much more poignant.

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Join us! A podcast on the life of Communist Union General August Willich with the author of the only biography ever written about this incredible figure! A german revolutionary of 1848 who tried to seduce Karl Marxs wife to the point where a duel ensued, he immigrated to America and led entire regiments of germans into the jaws of Dixie while playing the revolutionary anthem of France! He kicked confederate ass all the way to Georgia, viewing the Civil war as strictly about slavery and as a challenge to capitalism! Please join us in celebration of this incredible hero of the left that has been erased from our history books! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDMhnmpjs2reMk

[@benavraham4397]

Guess why Abraham Lincoln is on a RED coin?

[@LeeRaldar]

In modern times the problem with both Marxism and Capitalism is that there are few if any places remaining in the world that men can go to escape from both Marxist and Capitalist.

[@randymagnum143]

Funny, the refugee largely flee to the "capitalist" west.

[@toothdok50]

"Should 20 million Free Men of the North subordinate themselves any longer to 300,000 slave holders of the south?" That is why we live in a Representative Republic and respect the rights of minorities. Certainly, the south did not respect the rights of the ethnic minority, but the question of CITIZEN or SLAVE was afoot. Americans, at the time, did however, respect the rule of law and the rights of CITIZEN minority groups This nation is NOT a democracy, but a Republic with the rule of law.

[@TheDirtyBlondeDon]

Join us! A podcast on the life of Communist Union General August Willich with the author of the only biography ever written about this incredible figure! A german revolutionary of 1848 who tried to seduce Karl Marxs wife to the point where a duel ensued, he immigrated to America and led entire regiments of germans into the jaws of Dixie while playing the revolutionary anthem of France! He kicked confederate ass all the way to Georgia, viewing the Civil war as strictly about slavery and as a challenge to capitalism! Please join us in celebration of this incredible hero of the left that has been erased from our history books! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqDMhnmpjs2reMk

[@benavraham4397]

Karl Marx was raised as a Christian and his views were no reflection of the faith his parents rejected.

[@samthesuspect]

Ill admit to only watching about 3 minutes of this video, but when you getting so much wrong I can't help myself.

[@julianvijarro22]

Capitalism did not exist at that time. What we witnessed was actually a colonial ethno-totalitarianism in nearly all cases where capital was exchanged in the ecosystem. Capital literally means wealth in the form of money or resources that are exchanged within an economy. Socialist and communist countries have money just like labeled capitalist countries. When the US ended slavery it was still an ethno-totalitarian state until the 1960s where we see the emergence of the plutocratic corporatists which had been able to maintain the dominant cast system from ethno-totalitarianism to plutocracy. Marx really didnt grasp idea of economics. That was Engels. We have yet to see a truly free, equal, fair market exist. It has either been centrally controlled and totalitarian ie USSR and NAZI Germany or this new plutocratic corporatists society disguised as free market capitalist democracies ie the US and Europe. Both totalitarianism and plutocracies are a buncha BS.

[@kenbowser5622]

Are you willing to give up your own wealth? Curious.

[@1337Se7eN7]

Marks didn't understand basic economics. He was also a terrible racist.