Eloise Bridgerton's torments on Penelope Featherington

[@sreeja0007]

If you read the book you'll know that Lady Whistledown never talks bad about the Bridgertons. She is a gossip, but a kind one.

[@YasminAbreu]

She does call Anthony a rake, but he doesn't mind.

[@missfancy8365]

The show made it more realistic. No one likes gossip, and gossip talks about everyone.

[@qatesta]

"incipient wallflower indeed", one of the best writer's choices ever!

[@tiosb4081]

honestly i keep watching it for that part and the way she says it

[@user-wi7hl4bw2m]

she said insipid lol

[@jennifervb66]

Do you think Eloise rehashed Cressida’s insult to hurt Pen or was it a case of not being able to come up with her own?

[@sarickacampbell2642]

It’s been established since season, one with Daphne and parts of season two with Colin that Eloise has a jealousy problem that she really needs to deal with. Just because you feel insecure about yourself doesn’t mean that you need to belittle everybody else. I understand that Daphne‘s social graces social ease, and charm make her feel inferior in accordance with the restraint that their society demand. Collin, having the freedom to explore and find himself beyond just living in a cage is infuriating. And Penelope not some widow or shadowy figure her childhood, best friend, actually accomplishing everything that Eloise wants her own autonomy, her own voice, and some sort of independent freedom. She too needs to be honest and ask for help if she needs it. Ask for advice and guidance to become a person she wants to be.

[@ZetinDaria]

Here “the wallflower” means someone who is aside of a social life?

[@indiagale7918]

If you haven't read the books, there's another reason Penelope is Lady Whistledown. The money. I know people are saying Eloise is right to be hurt, and yes, she is, but Eloise has never had money troubles, never had her dowry gambled away, and both of her parents love her. Canonically Penelope wanted to use her Whistledown money to save her family.

[@xyz2618]

To everyone hating on Eloise- if you find out such a huge secret about your best friend, how would you react? Not to mention all the things Pen wrote about her family. She also wrote about Eloise and Theo. And the stuff (true but still) about Anthony. Yes, Eloise was kind of a bad friend for not paying much attention to Pen but Pen did betray her.

[@notoyaarthur1990]

But she technically never wrote anything bad about the bridgertons. The worst she ever wrote about them was the part about Eloise consorting with political radicals. She never named Theo nor did she imply that Eloise had been compromised by a man. And she never wrote anything bad about Anthony either, just simply said he was a rake, which was a fact, everyone knew men of his class slept around. And she speculated like everyone else about the reasons behind his engagement being called off, but never wrote anything bad to my recollection. Which is kind of in keeping with the books. In the books, although Penelope does write alot of juicy gossip that surrounding other wealthy families. She never writes anything that directly connects any of the bridgertons with scandal that would tarnish them. All she does is mention a few fashion faux pas and that Colin and Anthony r charmers and rakes. The show, I believe, stays true to that fact for the most part. The only time they stray somewhat is with her mentioning Eloise's excursions to the political meetings. And she only does this to redirect the queen's suspicions. Same with the marina scandal. She only reveals it to stop Colin from making a mistake. I totally get that she messed up, but I still think that Eloise should've been more understanding. She was so wrapped up in her own stuff she never truly saw Penelope, nor did she realise that Penelope had greater aspirations than even herself.

[@-maru-chan]

@@notoyaarthur1990 gossiping itself is already worse. even if its right or false accusations, its not her place to talk about ur friend's family situations to the whole town.

[@juliaalexander5788]

So the fact that it was done to protect her from Queens wrath? Eloise completely overreacted

[@-maru-chan]

@@juliaalexander5788 well in her defense, that's her family's matters being talked in the whole town. Who wouldn't react in that way? So you're saying that it's okay to protect yourself even if you write about your friend's family?

[@juliaalexander5788]

@@-maru-chan based on the series, the Queen threatened Eloise thinking she was herself lady whistle down. One of the queens main points is Eloise is never mentioned in the paper. So in order to save Eloise, Penelope did what she did. Now should Penelope never have written gossip, challenged imperial authority? I'm not sure but she did what she thought was the only thing to keep Eloise safe from the queen, her own family safe. So yes Eloise needs some perspective and realize that

[@damselinthedress]

I would be incredibly angry, if my best friend consistently talked about my family members sometimes in a bad light, then exposed a relationship I had with someone I liked or was in love with. Eloise LET HER INTO HER FAMILY’s HOME. THEY WERE CHILDHOOD FRIENDS. I could not imagine a bigger betrayal. This wasn’t Penelope talking behind their backs to a couple of people. THIS WAS A WHOLE COMMUNITY. INCLUDING THE BRIDGERTONS THEMSELVES. It’s just a slap to the face, really.

[@notoyaarthur1990]

Penelope never wrote badly about the bridgertons. Listen carefully to lady whistledown's entries. She never insulted them or spoke ill of them. All she ever said was that they were one of the most prolific families (coz let's be honest, 8 kids r alot) and that Colin was a charmer and Anthony was a rake. She didn't insult or write ill of Daphne, she just made an observation that Daphne wasn't getting as much attention as the diamond owing to her overprotective brother. And she revealed marina's secret to save Colin, and it was at a bigger cost to her own family's reputation. Colin came away basically with his reputation intact. Her biggest insult would've been the article she wrote about Eloise and in that she never mentions Theo by name. She just says that Eloise has been in the company of political radicals, she never implies that Eloise had been compromised by Theo, just that her views were out there and on par with political radicals. Honestly she poked more fun at the queen and challenged her the most. Not to mention the insults she threw at her own family and herself. Most of her jibes were mainly self deprecating

[@cottonrain520]

I mean if pen talked about EVERYONE but the Bridgetons people would get suspicious and suspect that one of them are the secret writer or someone close to them Is. Pen even talked about her own family, she didn’t leave anyone out which is part of the reason why it was so difficult to find her

[@garlantyrell6368]

Although Penelope’s business as Lady Whistledown can be quite scandalous, it has sometimes saved certain people too many times. 1. Because of her interference, Daphne didn’t have to marry Nigel, that creep. 2. Colin was saved from shame from Marina and the pregnancy. 3. Eloise was even saved twice from the Queen. One from her debut since she didn’t want to do it and two was from the Queen thinking she was Lady Whistledown, even though that last part is kinda on Pen. But still she saved Eloise from Queen Charlotte. Yes, Pen sometimes ruins lives but the people she goes for kinda deserve it. Like Lord Berbrooke and Marina.

[@paulalopez4341]

​@@cottonrain520she shouldn't be talking bad about ANYONE, period. She was indeed scared to do things in real life so went writing behind people's backs instead. Eloise was right, even if I like Pen, she did betray her and many people because of her own insecurities.

[@RheaG9]

Penelope is a very selfish character.First time she did it with marina.Though I made my mind that it is understandable.Next time with eloise.If I am someone's that close best friend I'd rather let reveal my identity or find other way rather than exposing my bestfriend's secret.She has no dignity when it comes something between her and the things she wants for herself. Lastly marina will be d*ad for Penelope only.I think marina slowly would've fallen in love with colin and they lived happily but with philip crane she had a constant reminder of her ex and guilt marrying her ex's brother.But only bcz Penelope wanted colin she exposed marina,if colin was not in the middle she would've never be bothered about lies or deception or whatever she said colin faced!!

[@paulinahafer7185]

People seem to team up over this very passionately. I think both of them made their fair share of mistakes and I don’t think either of them is wrong for feeling hurt by the other. Eloise underestimated Penelope like everyone else and didn’t actually take her seriously while Penelope sometimes hid behind Lady Whistledown and should have come clean to her friend way earlier. But I get why both of them acted as they did and I hope they manage to resolve this in the next season.

[@LunaSolTerra]

Absolutely all of this. I agree 100%.

[@mubbun168]

Exactlyyy both of them were extremely hurt. I hope they get back together because pen literally gave up whistledown for Eloise.

[@Kenny-bu4uv]

Took the words right outta my mouth! They both messed up and need to forgive and move on .

[@Satine8541]

Well stated, my thoughts exactly. I am saddened by how others either blame Eloise or Penelope. Both of these women, as well as Lady Danbury are my favorite female characters of Bridgerton.

[@deamea5098]

Finally, people who see both sides. I always like to say Pen and El remind me of myself and my best friend from high school. We were the best of friends from childhood, all the way to being teenagers. We supported each other through thick and thin, but come gread 12 my El found herself in a pretty toxic relationship with a popular guy. Who didn't give fuck about her and it was killing me to stand idly by and watch it. So I took matters into my own hands and showed her what a lying piece of trash he was but I didn't account for the possible blow back on said friend and when it was exposed what I had done. She was rightfully angry with me and because I felt attacked I said some pretty hurtful things back. We went our separate ways for close to 10 years but she was never far from my mind and what I had lost. Through the years we both grew up and matured till one day we bumped into each other at the grocery store. At this point I was in a long term relationship and had a child. It was crazy to see how much she had changed and hadn't at the same time. We ended up going for coffee and silly me couldn't keep the past where it belonged so I started word vomit apologizing to her for what happened and explaining that with age I understood what I had done wrong. She laughed at me and I was left sitting thinking oh no. Only for her to turn around say I was immature and was embarrassed so I took my anger out on you. To end this crazy long story 3 years have passed. Said friend is having her first baby and in 2 years she's standing up next to me as my maid of honor. Well I marry the love of my life. So long story short I see both Pen and El points. I just hope based on what we saw in the season 3 trailer El begins to grow up because the way things are looking from mine and my best friends view El has long way to before she is ready to lead her own season.

[@mama-mea6713]

A lot of folks have said pen should have told Eloise but I think Pen knew/knows that Eloise wasnt mature enough to handle that secret. Its just weird to me she thought LWD was brilliant until it was Pen.

[@rogueryder3285]

This scene broke my heart. They were so close

[@melis5313]

I don't really blame Pen or El about their actions. They both have their reasons. In this scene Eloise's words towards Pen is really heartbreaking and the worst moment of the show for me. But I can understand why she is like this. I mean all of these time she admired Lady W. and she was obsessed with finding her identity. That's because she put herself many dangerous situations and even came across the queen. Pen knew all of this but she didn't say anything to Eloise instead she destroyed her and her family's reputation and put Theo in danger too even if it was to save her. She was soo close with Eloise if Pen had revealed her identity to El, she definitely wouldn't tell anyone. In the books Pen didn't do anything against the Bridgerton's instead she flattered them in her writings. But of course Pen isn't completely wrong either she was under so much pressure and was afraid for El and she thought it was the only way to save her from the queen even if it wasn't.

[@gabrielleclennon6589]

Same. Listen I would be mad 😡 too but I also would forgive the person next day that is just me

[@cloverazar5315]

“If Pen revealed her identity to Eloise, Eloise would never tell anyone!” Penelope literally told Eloise a secret this season and Eloise spread the rumours around, and THEN blamed Cressida for it. Even Cressida was like “actually you just have a big mouth and a loud voice, damn girl, sit down” That’s on Eloise. SHE MUST MAKE HASTE to self-improvement cause jfc

[@garlantyrell6368]

People tend to forget that although Penelope’s business as Lady Whistledown can be quite scandalous, it has sometimes saved certain people too many times. 1. Because of her interference, Daphne didn’t have to marry Nigel, that creep. 2. Colin was saved from shame from Marina and the pregnancy. 3. Eloise was even saved twice from the Queen. One from her debut since she didn’t want to do it and two was from the Queen thinking she was Lady Whistledown, even though that last part is kinda on Pen. But still she saved Eloise from Queen Charlotte. Yes, Pen sometimes ruins lives but the people she goes for kinda deserve it. Like Lord Berbrooke and Marina.

[@degree5638]

Absolutely not. 1. Penelope didn’t do shit. It was Violet herself who came up with the plan and Pen did what she had done all this time write about other people’s business and that’s why Daphne was saved. 2. She could’ve told the Bridgerton privately about Marina’s pregnancy. She could even write a letter if she didn’t wanna face them and let them investigate but she wrote what she wrote out of jealousy making Marina almost commit suicide. 3. Penelope didn’t try to save Eloise from the Queen. She was trying to save herself from the Queen. Why didn’t she go to Eloise and explain everything to her and both come up with a plan to deal with the Queen? Bc she was more interested in not being discovered than revealing herself to her supposed to best friend. All Penelope does in the show is talking about other people’s business like if she has a say on that. Naming them and affirming shit sometimes. By writing about political radicals she not only was putting dirt on Eloise but the whole Bridgerton family who got dragged into that scandal or you ppl forget how everyone was passing on them in the Featherington’s party?

[@garlantyrell6368]

@@degree5638 In her defense, Eloise hasn’t been a good friend to her either. She always talked about what she wanted to talk about and rarely asked Penelope how her own family was doing. Plus, the queen would’ve gotten Eloise killed for supposedly being LW if Pen hadn’t have said anything. An attack from a gossip writer is way better than getting attacked by the Queen of Great Britain, who would do a lot worse to you.

[@degree5638]

@@garlantyrell6368 No defense in here. Eloise had her issues as a friend which I’m in no way denying but just bc she didn’t pay attention to her some times gave Penelope the right to write “ALL” she ever told Pen out of trust. That was straight next level of betrayal right there. You can’t come at me saying that you’re protecting me if you’re revealing to everyone things I told you as a friend thinking I could trust no one would ever know. As for Eloise’s situation with the Queen she could’ve come clean to her friend and the queen and show her all the proof that she’s LW and if the Queen didn’t believe her at least she knows she did the right thing but she was more interested in saving herself than saving Eloise. That’s a fact. If a friend of mine ever do me something like that I would never speak/see them again. Idc your reasons if you’re gon’ to talk about me come to me first. But this is a show and they both have been bad friends in one way or another so I know they’ll make amend.

[@garlantyrell6368]

@@degree5638 If Penelope had confessed, she would’ve gotten killed. The Queen was after blood on that day I think. But then again, she might’ve genuinely wanted LW as an ally. I still don’t know.

[@degree5638]

@@garlantyrell6368 So, I’m guessing is just best to put dirt on your friend and family name rather than facing the consequences of our actions, right? C’mon! I did not want the Queen to take it out on Pen but then again between her and Eloise. Pen was the one that put Eloise on that situation on the first place had she not written all those articles against the Queen and made her mad with them.

[@angelasrd6706]

You know what? I get it, Eloise has a right to be mad, but what she says here is wrong. Just say that you're hurt that she wrote about you and your family, but telling her you're pittying her and that she's too scared to stand up for herself? Penelope's answer was correct in my opinion. At least she did something. She's a seventeen year old girl living in an era a woman only has the right to smile and look pleasing and find a husband and she took that and became an entrepreneur, a writer, a reporter, someone who Eloise would be proud of if she wasn't so jealous. Because really that's the reason behind her words.

[@babygirllynn2264]

Exactly! Eloise wasn’t even mad at LW when she wrote about Daphne or Anthony she even praised LW but one threat from the Queen and her own scandal being exposed now she’s angry about Penelope writing about her family? Nah she definitely was jealous Penelope was brave enough to do something. Sure it was not the best way to go but she still did something. Eloise never did anything but talk.

[@luchem721]

A very malicious detail is that in the first chapter. When Penelope calls herself a "wallflower" Eloise doesn't correct her (she tries to deny it but in the end she doesn't). So her words are true. she considers Penelope a wallflower

[@kristeldelvo3728]

Friendship over for me. Your best friend gossiping about you and your family to the world and making a profit out of it! That’s betrayal!

[@808hearmannxea2]

she did it to save her from the queens wraith, Penelope did the right thing.

[@Eva-ed4ed]

@@808hearmannxea2she should have discussed with Eloise the minute the queen accussed her of being Lady Whistledown. At that moment it should have been Eloise’s choice if she wanted to get her reputation ruined to save herself or have Penelope confess. That call wasn’t for Penelope to do. She made a cowardly choice because she couldn’t take accountability for her action.

[@brishiannahammel3833]

@@808hearmannxea2 maybe she never should have started a gossip article that ruins peoples lives, and she would’ve never been in this situation

[@annealcantara6952]

Why are people so annoyed at Eloise when... this is so right? 😂

[@sarickacampbell2642]

she’s not right she’s being a self-righteous jealous hypocrite

[@annealcantara6952]

@@sarickacampbell2642 ... the amount of hatred you have for her is nonsensically immense dear. 💀

[@notoyaarthur1990]

​@AnneAlcantara I personally don't hate her. I think she's a fun character but she is exhausting and annoying sometime. Because her anger is self righteous indignation. She's mad coz she never thought Penelope could be capable of such a secret, as she never truly listened to her. All she ever did was talk about her own issues whenever they were together. She never once tried to put herself on Penelope's shoes. Coz if she did she'd realise that it was insensitive to complain about having to endure the attentions of unwanted suitors and them asking for a dance, when Penelope was never asked. You're not a very good friend, if u can't pick up on emotional cues like that because you're always making it about urself. Again, I like her character, but she is selfish. She never once considered that Penelope might be unhappy having never once received a request to dance , while she's complaining about how many men her mother was throwing at her

[@raven_in_disguise1649]

@@sarickacampbell2642 Right!!!!

[@lyn-lyn7173]

​@@notoyaarthur1990 I agree, Eloise was all talk but Penelope really was the one who did everything she wanted to do. Penelope, as a woman in that era, was able to defy the expectations for women in their society. If I'm Eloise, I'd be really proud of my friend especially with all of my societal views that I keep on rambling about. I understand that she had the right to be angry at her but she should've tried to understand Penelope's decision.

[@TracyLynnCruz]

Why is she saying all this to her with such a snide look? Girl was admiring and adoring lady whistledown until she found out who it was..

[@frickfrack369]

because that whistleblower who is her exposed her secret causing her to end things with the man she loved which caused her great sorrows..would you not be upset?

[@emanaslam786]

Yea her scandal ruined her reputation and the families for quite a while and these things always stick (in that time anyway)

[@-aeshe-4951]

Nah only in the first season. After Marina event Eloiuse was critical of her n thought it was too much n not okay. She admited her using her ability to gain power, she didn't like her use of it as her eyes open to the consequences of it hurting people n their lives. Even Penelope thought the Marina thing was too much, but at the point she didn't know what else to do n she was too attached to Colin to let that go ahead. I wish she had communicated with Marina about it, or she communicated with anyone about her own feelings n issues , but i guess she is too used to smiling n sweetly taking it in to get anything even a tiny bit of acknowledged friendship, time or regard cuz she doesn't think she deserves it because of the way the world treats her n the strings connected to her.

[@elizabethstavish8220]

Because Eloise had found a guy that she connected with and really liked but then lady whistledown exposed her secret and made the Bridgerton family the laughing stock of the ton (and has done that many other times) only for it to be her best friend? PLS Id have a betrayed look too

[@butterfliesarecool3876]

Basically do it to everyone else but I better be the exception because we’re supposed to be besties 👯‍♀️

[@severigne_m7652]

TLDR: I am a Penelope apologist Here's the thing... of all the things Penelope wrote, there's barely anything that really spoke badly of the Bridgertons. Calling Anthony a rake was canon and a common title for gentlemanly manwhores back in the day...even Simon and Anthony called each other that at one point. Now with Marina, she was part of the Featheringtons so news of her being compromised could ruin THEM, not the Bridgertons. Besides, Penelope has almost always praised Marina in LW, even when she was pursued by Colin. She tried to help Marina where she can, and tried to convince her out of tricking Colin. She tried to warn Colin too but was dismissed, so she did what she thought was best for her friend and love to keep him from going into a loveless marriage with someone carrying someone else's child. I don't care if y'all would say she could've done something else...she chose what she thought was the best course of action in a stressful situation, her family be damned. It's flawed but y'all can't say you can make perfect decisions at what, 17-18. Now with Eloise. She warned Eloise to stop the investigation, to cease what she's doing because her family's already threatened by the Queen. Eloise was stubborn and kept going and would've "outed" herself in the process causing her family to fall into ruin. Penelope had to chose something that is scandalous enough to make the Queen believe it was not Eloise to save their fam, anything less would've ruined them anyways. And sure you could say she could've revealed herself but SHE knows the danger too, which is why SHE took precautions, she made sure none would discover her. Sure you can say that she could've not started LW in the first place...and maybe you're right. But you don't know the sheer feeling of freedom you get, seeing something you did slap the faces of those that ridiculed you constantly while being praised for it. Penelope was essentially nothing. Her family was deemed eccentric, unusual fashions, and they're not rich enough to be considered a catch. She was stuck in a home with a family that doesn't think ber worthy of anything, in a community that constantly ridicules her, her looks, her preferences. When one is stuck in that situation, and form of freedom is enticing, and if that requires writing in complete anonymity with no one ever knowing its you, then you take what you get. That is something Eloise cannot quite relate to. She is a Bridgerton, she has a family that support her, even if they sometimes want her to be more feminine, she has a support system in Benedict who lets her talk the way she wants. Being a Bridgerton, she is influencial by association, she can be as awkward as she wants, she will still get suitors, she will be invited to dances, and no one would actively insult her since her family has the power to retaliate. Penelope has none of that. So yes, I shall defend Penelope...and while I love Eloise, I do not think her right in this situation, especially when she weaponized the very insult that the ton used in Penelope that made her turn to writing in the first place.

[@DayneandtheStars]

Love this!!! ❤

[@severigne_m7652]

@@lejlaturkes8713 That was more Anthony's effect than Whistledown's. LW first used the title Diamond of the first Water, which was then adopted by the ton and the queen for seasons next, and she used it to describe Daphne after receiving the Queen's approval. She essentially cemented Daphne's role as the Diamond especially to those who were not in attendance. This (+ QC's kiss) lead to the lines of suitors, most of which Anthony drove away. It was Anthony that made them leave and Anthony that made them turn away. All LW did was mention how Bridgerton House was empty except for Berbrooke...which again was Anthony's fault. Can we also note that it was because of Anthony's acceptance of Berbrooke's proposal that he felt more entitled to Daphne which lead to the assault and not LW. Before Marina, most of LW's articles are observances of the ton. The events that happened, shameful or noteworthy actions someone did (e.g Cressida's swoon...like my girl was out there complimenting her bully because it was what the article is for, observations). That was the same. The suitors, and the Berbrooke situation was Anthony's fault, of which LW only commented about. Daphne's line was (approx.) "Lady Whistledown all but called me ineligible, worthy of the affections of a mere simpleton." Meaning that it wasnt what she said but what her words implicate, due to observations that: a) Daphne's lines of suitors seem to disappear; and b) Berbrooke seems to be the only one left to constantly visit, which might I remind again was a situation caused by Anthony and LW only commented upon. And let us not forget how it was LW that cemented the story of Berbrooke's bastard (Which, though widespread, was a mere rumor from servants until LW cemented it) leading to him leaving and saving Daphne. Yet there was no comment on the VERY public confrontation of Berbrooke (That happened in the DAY, at the Serpentine, with lots of other families around) with the Bridgertons holding a special document, nor the very haggard look of him as he approached. LW is a gossip sheet. She hold's the attention of the ton but for the most part, things need to happen first. LW is an observation of the ton, meaning it only comments on things that already happened, ready observable.

[@severigne_m7652]

@@lejlaturkes8713 I agree some are a bit out there but LW is a mirror that serves to show the ton what it is. Still, I can see why some people aren't comfortable with that and its fine... but blaming Pen for Daphne's assault? Really? Berbrooke was an entitled ass from the get go exacerbated by Anthony's acceptance of him. Heck, if you want someone to point fingers to, blame Anthony for disregarding his sister's AND his mother's qualms about Berbrooke but ultimately, Berbrooke is at fault there. Let's not put the blame on anyone when the perpetrator was right there

[@Eva-ed4ed]

The legitimacy of Pen’s actions is never questioned, because we understand she is a survivor trying to make a living in a jungle of a society. However, the minute Eloise got badly involved with the Queen, Penelope should have spoken to her and discuss what to do, because it was Eloise’s future that was in danger. The info Penelope used to ruin her wasn’t even gossip. No one saw her or knew what she was doing, the only way Pen knew was because Eloise told her in confidence, as her best friend. Even if she had a good intention, her action was a betrayal of Eloise’s trust, and a cowardly choice for avoiding being upfront with the involved person about it.

[@sarahgrace3488]

Another Penelope apologist here, and I agree with every word of this!! ♡

[@bnelson5378]

I am team Penelope. I certainly can understand Eloise’s knee jerk emotional reaction. She felt hurt by Pen’s column (even though it was to save her, and Pen chose the scandal for which she could more easily recover) and that Pen did not confide in her. Pen did not betray her! She just kept a part of herself secret. Eloise is entitled to an explanation, but not an apology. Honestly, I have serious doubts Penelope could have continued as Lady W if Eloise knew. She lacks discretion and would have pushed Pen to write in a way that suited Eloise’s interests. Eloise is bold, loud, and opinionated ( which is awesome) but not great for secret gossip writing. I genuinely feel sorry for Pen. Lady W was and is her only outlet to express herself. Her mother puts her in yellow (and ignores her), her sisters are intellectual idiots (who mock her), and her friend has a big personality (and often projects her desire for spinsterhood on to her). Not to mention Pen risked her potential social standing by revealing Marina’s pregnancy to save Colin…and this is held against her (and then he publicly rejects her!). All she has is Lady W! It belongs to her and no one else is entitled to it. Full stop.

[@dwaekkisinsanity5233]

Did everyone just forget that if Pen didn’t write about Eloise’s possible downfall, the Queen would’ve been involved??? It has been said several times, the gossips and rumors will fade over time, just like every Whistledown rumor has done. But if the Queen were to personally and publicly drag down the Bridgerton name, (it was even mentioned that she will hurt them) it would be permanent. What Pen did was temporary, oppose to what Eloise (and all of them) would’ve faced from the Crown.

[@garlantyrell6368]

And let’s face it. Eloise always had it better then Pen from the start. One is born into a wealthy family who are genuinely good people and love you dearly while the other is born into a family who is constantly on the verge of being broke and treat you like you’re a useless waste of space in the house.

[@Shenanakins]

she shouldve come clean to eloise and given eloise the choice on what to do next, giving eloise full control on what gets said about her. she shouldnt have taken it upon herself to make the decision to ruin eloise's reputation in whatever manner she chooses.

[@garlantyrell6368]

@@Shenanakins Eloise can recover from that though. After all she is from a very powerful and wealthy family.

[@jennifervb66]

“Too scared to stand up for yourself in reality.” Pen’s emotional capabilities are nothing she can control. Would Eloise have been able to keep her mouth shut about anything if the roles were reversed?

[@mubbun168]

Omggg wow Penelope is such an amazing human being for literally not making Eloise pay for her crimes. Even if the queen would get involved it was 100% Pen's fault dude. Eloise just got betrayed for no reason. She trusted pen and told her about theo and pen used it against her.

[@mimis.5139]

i like how people siding with Eloise are forgetting that the Queen threatened her to ruin her and her family in 3 days for being Wishtledown and no way was she believing Eloise when she said she was not the gossip writer. Eloise was about to fake herself as Whistledown and praise the queen which would have pushed more in the mud and also Penelope begged her not to get involved with Theo like anything.

[@SS-bu8ez]

Yeah but she ruined Daphne's reputation

[@garlantyrell6368]

It was Anthony who almost ruined Daphne by finding the worst suitors imaginable. Like Nigel.

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

​@@garlantyrell6368Sorry but Pen wrote about it. Pen ain't nothing but TMZ.

[@crystalross7943]

Pen seemed like she was the most harsh with her mother and family. They are in very different positions in society so Eloise has the privilege of being her eccentric self. Pen save Colin from taking care of a child that wasn't his, not for purely noble reasons but good enough ones. And considering Pen's mom mention the loss of their dowry, her family is having hard times. Someone from old money, who's never had to worry about it. Also, the boldness Eloise has comes from being near the top of the social pyramid and her ignorance at the difference one can act when at the bottom is vast. Pen is new money and fat, speaking her mind could ruin her sisters' chances of marriage.

[@StephinTech]

I they were both bad friends in different ways. Obviously Pen being whistledown is self explanatory. She’s caused a lot of torment for people, including friends and family. Eloise as much as I love her head strong ness she really just bulldozed past Pen’s feelings sometimes and didn’t listen, because they didn’t align with her more feminist views. She did that to Daphne as well constantly judging her for wanting to be a mom/ wife and fitting societies rules. Both are rebels in different ways and I hope they find their way back to eachother. I miss them lol 😢

[@XRMH]

Imagine searching for someone for monthsss and suddenly it was your best friend this whole time😂😂 without saying she wrote about you, yeah she had her reasons but she could tell Eloise about it first then they make a solution together, betrayal isn't a solution! Sorry but she deserved it, I love their friendship and I wish they make up but it's Pen's fault

[@eveofwonder]

What Penelope did was still wrong but don’t act like Eloise is any better. In the books, it makes it very clear that Penelope’s purpose for creating Lady Whistledown was to make herself feel known and to make her voice heard since she lacked that from her own family. Eloise had never had to try to do anything to make a name for herself since she comes from a powerful family and grew up in a privileged high social class compared to Penelope. Eloise was just being pretentious and rude to someone who was actually trying to help her. Plus, Eloise never had a problem with Lady Whistledown up before her discovery. Lady Whistledown was uncovering secrets of countless other families but it when it effects Eloise, that’s when it becomes a problem for her. Like that’s ridiculous. She is ridiculous.

[@sadzidazaa2647]

​@@eveofwonder naaah... Thats a bullshit.. We all know in the first season Eloise didnt like that Lady Whistledown ruined Marina like that. And we know that in entire 2nd season Eloise didnt like Lady Whistledown as she matured above her... So that comment is just full of shit.

[@eveofwonder]

@@sadzidazaa2647 No your comment is bullshit and not true. Eloise admired Lady Whistledown. Lady Whistledown was exactly the person Eloise aspired to be. She’s independent, successful, shares a similar distaste for society, and Lady Whistledown managed to make a living off her work, which was something that wasn’t common for women during that time. Also, in the books, the confrontation is different from what they showed in the tv adaptation. In the books, Eloise tells Penelope how proud she is of her and is surprised that Penelope managed to keep it a secret for so long.

[@djheannam7764]

@@eveofwonder bruuhhh she started not really like lady whistledown in the beginning of season two pen hated she had other interest in different writing there fallout wasn’t bc of jealousy and it was such a far fetched thing for pen to say to her when el in fact told her she felt betrayed bc of what she did not bc she’s jealous pen saying that is such a classic mean girl line that shows no want for accountability El wasn’t the selfish one in all of this

[@eveofwonder]

@@djheannam7764 My point still remains true. Eloise is selfish because she only thinks about herself. Throughout the entirety of season 2, she never not once thinks about Penelope. If she knew her best friend well enough, she would know that Pen is smart and could potentially be Lady Whistledown but not once does she suspect her until the very last second. And she was clearly jealous of her. Jealous of the fact that Pen made a name for herself in society. She just disguised it as “betrayal.”

[@Wakanda888]

Both Penelope and Eloise had their moments of being terrible friends to each other, but at the same time, Penelope wrote horrible, awful stuff about Eloise's family. And yes, though some of the things she said were true, it still didn't justify her writing about it. Eloise has every right to be mad at Penelope because it seemed like her family was always the subject of Penelope's gossip, like 99% of the time, they were the true targets. And yes, some of Penelope's writings did help out the Bridgertons, but also 99% of the time, it hurt them. Penelope was insecure and unable to stand up for herself while Eloise wasn't afraid to do it. Penelope had to have people come in and save her and stand up for her instead while Eloise just did it. Eloise knew exactly who she was and wasn't ashamed about it and definitely wasn't going to allow anyone to tease or make fun of her for it while Penelope was still trying to figure out who she was. I think the last straw for Eloise here was when Penelope revealed her secret friendship with Theo Sharpe. Penelope knew that because Theo was of low standing that the scandal would be devastating for the Bridgerton family to recover from and knew that it would stop Eloise from finding out who she truly was because they would be shunned by the ton from all future events which indeed did happen. I think that Eloise felt betrayed because she truly thought that she was Penelope's best friend and that they told each other everything. So why couldn't Penelope tell Eloise about this? I mean, surely she would have known that Eloise would have been totally for it and probably would have helped her to write the scandal sheet. He'll, Eloise probably would have done the spying and eavesdropping for her too. Also, let's not forget that Eloise saved Penelope from the Queen's wrath and helped her escape with her secret identity still enacted. Eloise almost (unintentionally) took the fall for Penelope when the Queen had tailed because she believed Eloise to be Lady Whistledown instead of Penelope.

[@WreckageandDisaster]

Shes gonna be pissed knowing pen is going to be her soonish to be sister in law 😅

[@ThelouwseFD]

I'm on Penelope's side

[@nloubriel2336]

I’m gonna side with Eloise on this one 😗

[@kalyanibhosale756]

Penelope even if wants to make a legit career doesn't have any access.... besides her family is poor which they only know....Eloise could never understand

[@nloubriel2336]

I get your point But I meant the part of using her talent hurting others, I get the economic issues in her family, but there had to be another way, better way without cost of anyone 😯😢😥 @@kalyanibhosale756

[@rerai5996]

@@nloubriel2336 I mean in that society and era. Having a noble status and working was more damaging in it own self. So hiding behind lady whistledown was the best way for her. Like she said to Eloise not everyone is a pretty bridgerton. And theres weight to this sentence. Because Theo and pen won't survive a scandal like Eloise will because of her family's status and influence

[@paulalopez4341]

​@@rerai5996still not enough reason to ruin people's lives and reputation, going behind people's backs (people who have been very welcoming to you at that), and feed into people's PERSONAL and INTIMATE dramas :)

[@rerai5996]

@@paulalopez4341 there's no still when you realize that Theo could die from Eloise little fantasy

[@emmastraub6842]

I think it says a lot about how you are raised because if you were raised privilege you probably would understand Eloise . If you grew up middle class or below you probably understand Penelope. It says a lot about our society and how even today we judge each other without seeing both sides.

[@ardatameratas9463]

Because people want to be understood no one wants to understand

[@AR-nt3cw]

What will annoy me most is come season 3 Eloise is still lime this with Pen. She had every right to feel betrayed and hurt. But if she does not consider how Pen used Whisttletown to save her family, then I will be very disappointed. After all, if it was not for her, then Daphne would have had to marry that awful Burbridge. Colin would have been trapped into marriage by Marina (who she did not appear angry with in S2). And because of her own actions, her family would have been orchestrated from society with no queen to save Anthony and Kate from scandal and gossip. I really hope someone at least points this out to her. Eloise (in my opinion) really needs to learn that not everybody is a pretty Bridgerton.

[@feer28]

Pen also wrote things about herself. Besides she didn't write harmful things about the Bridgertons. If she never wrote anything about them or herself, everyone would have guessed it was her.

[@scottibrown3274]

Can we at least all agree that Eloise had no right to search through Penelope’s room?!?! I know Eloise was let into the house but why search through someone’s room in their own home…

[@queencyntyam7818]

Eloise and her family was on the brink of ruin because of lady whistledown. If it was me, i‘d do just about anything to find her secret identity. So she had every right

[@scottibrown3274]

@@queencyntyam7818 that doesn’t give her the right to search through somebody’s room, especially in a disarray like that

[@lobsterrevenge]

The Bridgerton brothers don’t even need to try to hide going to brothels from their mom. It’s not a tough trace and investigate, but you don’t admit that there are levels to gossip. What you would hide in a closet for to count as gossip, others hear in plain sight. Are they even comparable...you senseless beasts? You don’t care to distinguish between gossip, betrayal, or making a living buck to defy the social construct of fake beorgeois appropriateness which is supposedly such friendship betraying scandal that everybody recovers in a week from them. The other one was going to marry a pregnant Marina at a time they haven’t been married until Penelope saved him despite being Marina’s cousin. She gossiped about Eloise because BOTH, not one, of them thought, and said the Queen both would and can, finish Eloise’s whole family. Not only so, Penelope was convinced this is so by Eloise. This is not an “Asian mom makes you play piano because she knows what’s good for you” analogy. They have not a rat’s ass in common. Despite this, them being both feminists who understand the connotation and meaning of that paper, and Daphne possibly giving up to being married to wrinkled fat lord in season 1, fools here are talking about the so called big betrayal by Penelope. They talk and talk because it is never the fault of the people in power. No matter what they do and how destructive it is, it’s given empathy as “the context”. No matter how light Penelope’s doings are, not that she spies or flips through documents but simply gets invited to walkarounds, she is the villain, and you even have the gall to hate her for what she’s done to “other people” outside the Bridgertons who are self recognised breeding machines making their life’s worth on sipping tea and cracking hydrogen gas accent. You are the reason the evil in Bridgerton can exist. You cocksuckers are the REASON Nazis exist. YOU are the reason, everyone who’s in Antifa today would still be under Hitler in WWII.

[@queencyntyam7818]

@@scottibrown3274 And she had no right to ruin her family. Especially her own best friend

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

Hell no we can't agree on that.

[@kalyanibhosale756]

Penelope even if wants to make a legit career doesn't have any access.... besides her family is poor which they only know....Eloise could never understand

[@LJE1821]

I will angry and disappointed too if my friend tell everyone about my secrets and destroyed my fam reputation. I feel betrayed but much worse is she can’t trust me about her real identity.

[@HelenVictor-un6fj]

Ok everyone both of them had their valid reasons. Pen never wrote about Eloise and Theo. That was always a secret. She wrote that Eloise is associating with the radicals. She even thought of confessing to Her Majesty but she would never believe a wallflower like her at allll. And that would put the tailor lady in a huge risk of losing her business as well as her reputation (i forgot her name 😅). Now let's talk about Eloise. She is a radical herself. But even she has to depend on Lady Whistletown to express her opinions. She always adored her until the Queen herself entered the game. And yes Pen was unaware about this until it was out hand. Eloise never expressed her opinion like Whistletown for the sake of her family especially her younger sisters . And thus to face such a humiliation because of her best friend is definitely heartbreaking. I hope this is enough. Both of them are imperfect and problematic. Hope they forgive each other this season ❤

[@oyaami1874]

They should have stuck closer to the book. The introduction of marina's character turned penelope from a slightly pathetic individual, alternately sighing over colin and stalking him, to a deceitful and hateful person determined to destroy a rival.

[@jordy3095]

Look. My thing with Penelope is that when her family was on the outside she made this big thing about how her family was just so different from Eloise and while that's true, the whole reason that her family was on the outs was because of Penelope. Like, she really did it to herself because she likes the boy with no real understanding of the situation that Miss Thompson was in. I have to say that while I can acknowledge that a lot of Eloise is supposed activism is very performative because she still participates in the society and still benefits from it and will most likely continue to benefit from it unless she wants to cause her family scandal, I appreciate her character a lot more because at least she owns her opinions and she's earnest even if somewhat delusional. Penelope has ruined lives just for fun and then cried about it when it came back by her in the ass. I also don't really believe that Eloise was jealous of Penelope tbh. I think she's upset because while she wanted to know who lady whistle down was and was very adamant about it, she had been confiding in her best friend and the entire time her best friend was Lady whistle down. Basically Eloise is feeling betrayed and angry and I totally understand that and honestly when Penelope said I stopped because of you it very much just felt like her making herself a victim. Like when I saw her crying after she sent out that final pamphlet I felt no sympathy for her because she quite literally did this to herself.

[@Xczptn391]

From the start her family is on the outs. We could see from season 1 that they tried so hard to fit in. From the looks, titles, ranks and the suitors, the Featheringthon is nowhere near from the Bridgerton. Yes she do likes Collin but he is not just a crush. He is also her friend (The only one other than El that who really cares about her). If you were her, you wouldn't let your friend get scammed to a marriage. Pen even warned MT to be honest multiple times but she didn't listen. You acknowledged El's talks but not Pen's actions that as a woman in the old times create a name for herself, create a business and create money to support for herself (Because there is no man that want to court her- no one to provide for her) and her family when the times comes. That's the difference between the F & B. Privilege. Pen didn't ruin lives. The Ton did. She just observes and writes about it. It was the people of the Ton (Like El) who supported it and loved it when the content is not about them. If you look at Pen's perspective from the whole seasons, you will understand why LW is so important to an invinsible woman. It takes maturity to understand the complex character of Penelope Fetherington. Lastly, it's much El's fault as Pen's.

[@Mrityormokshiya]

Marina Thompson deserved whatever she got after mocking Penelope to her face about her love, saying how Colin sees her as a woman but not Penelope. Why is Marina's deceiving okay to you? Gosh Marina apologists are annoying

[@romyroy7295]

They did them two so dirty, especially Penelope. Its not at all how they do it in the book. Her identity is revealed at the end of book 4 with Colin and Penelope. And I absolutely loved Penelope's character in the book. She was so intelligent, able and compassionate. Portraying her with such selfishness in the show, the makers did it so bad!

[@sadzidazaa2647]

Wtf?? You guys supporting Penelope like she didnt ruin manny lives, of the ones she holds dear and the ones she doesnt. She outted Eloises most personal things and almost ruined her entire family and her name. Which if this was a real world, she would be killed for open rebellion against the crown... just because she didnt want her to write in her name... I mean cmon... Eloise have every right to feel that way, by her betraying so called "friend"... Not sorry for all you lucky people who dont share my oppinion just because you werent betrayed by your friends. ..

[@marywagstaff1178]

Ok but at least Penelope was actually doing something. Eloise is all about feminism and women’s rights yet she sits there and does nothing and then puts down others like daphne for simply not having the same opinions on things such as children and family. Eloise is genuinely comes off as this privileged teenager. Listen, the way Penelope went about it about writing about Eloise was wrong. But at the same time she was just trying to protect her. And Eloise put herself in that situation to begin with even if Penelope never exposed her it would’ve gotten out either way it that was just super irresponsible of her especially knowing how mature and intelligent she thinks of herself.I mean even if Penelope still told Eloise she was whistledown before writing that story about her she still would’ve been mad either way. Yes it wouldn’t have blown up the way it did but still. Eloise was never a good friend. Even when Penelope’s family was on the brink of ruin MULTIPLE times it always seemed to be about her and her struggles. When in reality they never really were struggles (or it was struggles she created or put herself into) just inconveniences that she overdramatized. Yes I agree with Penelope if Eloise would’ve actually cared or payed attention at all she would’ve even at least maybe suspected Penelope to be whistledown. But she was so caught up in herself and never even asked Penelope about herself. But for her Eloise felt herself such to be “the main character” she only saw Penelope to be there just as a side character in her life and never considered her to have her own life and aspirations either.

[@garlantyrell6368]

Some of Penelope’s papers actually save the Bridgertons many times: 1. Colin was saved from being shamed by Marina. 2. Daphne didn’t have to marry that creep Nigel because of her. 3. Even Eloise was saved from the Queen once. She did not want to make her debut in the beginning and thanks to Penelope, the Queen was distracted and Eloise didn’t have to do it. Penelope does ruin some lives but the people she goes for, like Nigel, Marina, and even her mother and sisters usually deserve it since they are horrid.

[@misstery2317]

@@garlantyrell6368 1. She only "saved" Collin, because she was jealous and she wanted him to find out in a way she could keep her hands clean. She could've tell Collin and save everyone from the scandall, including Marina, who was her friend. 2. Its was actually Violet Bridgerton who find out about Nigel's illegitimate children and spreading the rumor. Lady Whistledown was just the cherry on top. 3. That was just good timing, not even Penelope's doing. You might say whatever you want about Eloise, but in that era, ruinning someone's reputation could lead them to be disown by their families, shunned from society and basically losing tittles and fortune. Eloise might not be the best friend, that was too much.

[@paulalopez4341]

​@@misstery2317👏🏻

[@garlantyrell6368]

Pen did try telling Colin about Sir George but he didn’t listen. If he didn’t listen to that, I doubt that he would believe that Marina was pregnant. And I don’t think anyone else would believe Pen either since she’s usually ignored by just about everyone in society.

[@ninibugg6203]

Maybe if Eloise took two seconds to actually *listen* to Penelope (her supposed best friend), instead of yapping about HER problems all the time, she could've figured out Pen was LW all along.

[@amalianurlatifah-z3u]

Well Eloise, the thing is, you didn't have the intention to get to know her 😅 --- If you two were asked some random trivia facts about each other, penelope would know more about eloise, than what eloise knows about penelope.. 🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️ in real life, with these 2 personality types, one would be considered a friend, the other just an acquaintance

[@amandacook1711]

When you’ve read the books and are scared to watch the actual series coz it might not live up to them so you just watch the shorts instead

[@madyalvarez428]

Eloise is genuinely really annoying in this scene and as a character in this season. She claims to be a feminist, and speaks about how women should rise up from their suppression and be able to make decisions for themselves about things, but at the same time she can’t stand women who are empowered in their own ways, and I think that she feels jealousy that Penelope has created some thing for herself and found a way to gain empowerment within the confines that she is forced to live within this society. ”you can’t stand up for yourself in reality… insipid wallflower… sequestered in this room“ but these are all ways that one could describe Eloise, as well, as she is also not very social, is also extremely limited in the things that she can or cannot do, and also struggles to stand up for herself and create something of value for herself because of the society in which she lives in the way that people look at her. Yet when Penelope is able to create lady whistledown as an altar ego so that she can use the anonymous nature of that persona to effectively create money and capital for herself (especially since she’s now lost her dowry!), defend herself against those who have wronged her and others, gaining empowerment, and manipulate high society to her advantage in the way that only men are able to do, Eloise suddenly has a problem with that. I understand her being upset about the Bridgerton’s‘s getting implicated into the gossip, even though that was pretty much entirely out of Penelope‘s hands, but wow this just reeks of jealousy and entitlement. Also, to reinforce my idea that this is some thing that she’s doing out of jealousy, she was so cool with lady whistle down and thought that she was such an impressive woman until she discovered that it was Penelope, because she always felt that Penelope was somebody who is on her same level and who was equally as unempowered as she is.

[@leiajones852]

I get your point but she only liked lady whistledown in season 1 so I don’t think its jealousy I think she feels betrayed by her friend bc Penelope exposed her secrets and I also think she felt like she new her friend and then this bomb just drops on her and she realizes she didn’t know anything about her at all. She might feel disappointed in her seeing that Pen destroyed her own families reputation along with her bsf family including exposing everyone’s secrets when she herself hides behind pen in fear of her secrets being exposed.

[@akhizaman6909]

I hated penelope there. A friend can never use his/her friend for money or torment them. Some cult fan of penelope wants to defend her here but how man? She almost ruined eloise's life. She is a masked woman who played the role of best friend of Eloise. Whoever is defending penelope try to imagine yourself in her situation where your best friend ruined your life by spreading your secrets. How would you react? Would you think about her money issue? Stupidity

[@PawsitivelyQuestionable]

Bro how are you ignoring the fact that penelope wrote that because the Queen was literally about to kill eloise???????????????

[@akhizaman6909]

@@PawsitivelyQuestionable bro when?

[@aaliyah6464]

Eliose likes to talk but when it comes down to it her reputation in the ton she'll always choose her pride over her opinion you can see how upset when her reputation came into question with theo Penelope has nothing to lose eliose has only been obsessed with herself or whistledown she didnt need parade her intelligence unlike eliose

[@kinkycottoncandyhair9614]

I loved Eloise in this scene

[@mirandalopez2640]

Yea this is where I was so disappointed in Eloise and also shook by Penelope. Eloise though 😫 she always talk about being a independent woman blah blah but doesn't do anything... 🙄

[@ginnig9848]

I can't wait to see how they showcase their friendship in the coming seasons 😃 the reveal happened so soon, I thought it would be like in the second/third last season

[@vishakhachaudhary9546]

People who are saying that Eloise didn't understood Penelope or not took her seriously or gave her attention , etc needs to know that they are CHILDHOOD FRIENDS and I don't think Eloise ever forced her to do anything and most importantly PENELOPE never told her anything , about her secrets, about her feelings, about Colin or literally anything and I don't think that happened because Eloise never asked her or something. If you are someone's childhood friend and a very close one about whom you know more than her family itself then I don't think that anyone should wait for their friends to ask them about their feelings , if PEN felt these things then why she never said anything to Eloise or told her about what her likes are , dislikes are , and Eloise literally shared every damn secret of her's to PEN then why she never shared anything about herself to Eloise? Infact even at the end of season 2 Eloise was the one who found out that PEN is LW , PEN never shared even after everything they have been through, their families have been through, maybe it was hard but I think if PEN have told Eloise her truth by herself then Eloise would have understood or the situation wouldn't be like this. I have recently watched all of the seasons again and I observed that PEN is not so different than the rest of the ton actually. Many think that Cressida is cruel but so is pen in a way or worse because Cressida never hide herself and PEN never uncovered herself. I am not a PEN hater or polin hater but it is true that PEN is a little toxic. And just by saying that she is a wallflower or a spinster or whatever the other terms the ton used for her is not a way to justify her actions as LW. She is doing the same to others, gossiping about them badly in front of the whole ton. And as the queen said herself that gossiping or talking to someone is temporary but using pen and writing the stories on the paper gives that gossip permanence which is more cruel. As Colin said that if LW haven't wrote about marina in the way she did then perhaps things could have also been handled differently , in a less cruel way. What would have happened if PEN told Colin about Marina's situation in a more discreet or private way rather than telling the whole ton about it? I think Colin and marina and all would have handled it in a better way. As for Eloise nobody was talking about her and Theo and even though it would've been risky or not appropriate for a lady but it would have been good for her to be with theo, as she said herself that it was the only thing in her life that was good at that time and Theo was a like minded person and it breaks my heart to not see him in season 3. Wouldn't it have been a great story if Eloise were with Theo , I mean she is a person who is open minded, activist sorta who wants to be free of the Society , and Theo was the person who was from outside the society , a normal worker, educated and open minded. what a beautiful match it would have been. Anyway if I were Eloise I would also have been mad at PEN but as I know PEN from childhood and my best friend , I would have tried to understand her but it would only after a long time has passed that I would have forgave her.

[@babygirllynn2264]

Oh please like Penelope could even get a word in during Eloise’s constant ranting and raving about her life struggles but never even showed interest in Penelope’s knowing she was going through a lot due to the LW letter about her family scandal. Throughout the scenes between them it’s clear Eloise never listens to Penelope. She even admits it in season two. Also when Cressida and everyone else was bullying or laughing at Penelope or her family and Eloise never defended her. Eloise is definitely being a mean girl in season 3 by befriending Cressida. I understand she is angry and has a right to be but at the same time let’s not act like Eloise was a good friend. Both were terrible friends to each other. Penelope lied and hurt Eloise and Eloise ignored and hurt Penelope.

[@babygirllynn2264]

Penelope doesn’t have to tell her friend anything especially since Eloise never even listened. If I had a friend who never listened to me and all she did was talk about herself and her struggles I wouldn’t tell her anything either cause I would think my friend doesn’t care about me. That’s probably how Penelope felt, she couldn’t trust her own friend with her secrets cause her friend didn’t show enough interest in her to indicate she even cared.

[@katrose5179]

You’re very young.

[@wardapologist]

Eloise was a terrible friend - I hope Penelope blooms without her. Eloise is a Bridgerton and has never been in the position of maybe or maybe not having a dowry. She was only introduced to the ton NOW, while Penelope has been out for a year or two and never noticed. She has never known what it is like to be seen as a burden on the family for not being married already. She has never been looked down on by society for not being in the best clothes or not being a slim girl - Eloise has so much privilege, but always talks like she's being oppressed. The best part is that Penelope dragged her own family through the mud, including herself. How is she protecting only herself when Eloise was literally going to be charged by the Queen? Like Penelope didn't want to do it but she also knew her friend needed to be saved somehow. It's not like Eloise was getting out of it herself. Genuinely hope Eloise suffers next season by seeing how well off Penelope is without her.

[@Cocotea742]

I totally agree

[@jjanep]

I hate them both at this point. Penelope uses her privileges and power very loosely and causes great harm. And Eloise is just a protected little flower that doesn't bother to look beyond her own struggles. Close minded. Both of them need a great bit of growth to be considered alright.

[@garlantyrell6368]

People tend to forget that although Penelope’s business as Lady Whistledown can be quite scandalous, it has sometimes saved certain people too many times. 1. Because of her interference, Daphne didn’t have to marry Nigel, that creep. 2. Colin was saved from shame from Marina and the pregnancy. 3. Eloise was even saved twice from the Queen. One from her debut since she didn’t want to do it and two was from the Queen thinking she was Lady Whistledown, even though that last part is kinda on Pen. But still she saved Eloise from Queen Charlotte.

[@MearnieToon]

Easy to stand up for urself when you have all of the bridgerton family standing behind u Elouise. Who does pen have? Two nasty sisters and a selfish conniving mother

[@babygirllynn2264]

Not to mention her family is the considered the laughingstock of the town due to them being poorer and lower in title. So how would she stand up for herself. I can definitely understand why Penelope did what she did. After being ignored or bullied by everyone and under appreciated by her own best friend she clearly needed her voice and she used it was it the best way to go about it? No course not. But is it understandable? Absolutely.

[@shannonbuckley3631]

I'm on Penelope's side, ya know friends don't have to tell other friends their secrets at least she's making a future life for herself.

[@leilag6230]

In my personal opinion, Eloise is so annoying. All she talks about is being a feminist or about Lady Whistledown. I don't condone the actions Penelope took when she wrote about her, but she was looking out for her friend. At least Penelope is actually making an effort to raise money to help her family, when the time comes for that, and she's getting her opinions out there without being mocked by others. Literally, all Eloise does in this show is complain about her problems or about finding out who Lady Whistledown is, so much so that she became obsessed with it and her whole family's reputation was almost ruined. If there are any hidden meanings behind Eloise or Penelope as characters that I'm not seeing, then please point them out because literally apart from Anthony, Eloise has to be one of the most annoying characters in this show.

[@bridgertonindia613]

Aww dear, for 100% I agree with you....Before I used to to think as like you...but now I just moved on🤗 but we shall see in the Eloise season...how she face her life ahead 🥲

[@igot7mencalledgot76]

I think Eloise reflects most woman in that era. They didn't have options to speak out against all the injustice woman go through so their only release is to complain and complain. What other options did she have? I think she envied LW and also hated the way she was using her power. Whilst Daphne is an example of woman who conform and like the comfortability of conforming. They want that life. Whereas Penelope is both dismissed in society, her relationship with her family and her relationship with her best friend. Luckily she had her father who helped her find her voice and just be seen. Eloise may feel repressed as a woman but she still has a family who loves her, a reputation and the suitors. She is just previliged and a typical "I don't want this life" but wouldn't survive any other life.

[@phoenix4918]

I don't know, obviously eloise had the benefit of being beautiful and having a reputed family but she wanted freedom from just being a showpiece to some viscount or Duke or prince. Obviously she had no one to vent so she always used to tell Pen, she was transparent about what she felt but was Pen, she never outright told what she felt and if eloise talked about Pen's problem without her permission it would look like eloise is just having fun talking about Pen's miseries when she don't wanna mention it. Eloise has no one who could understand her or she can vent to so she told every single thing to Pen but what did Pen told eloise about her life nothing only what people saw. Eloise was interested in Lady Whistleton just because she admired her but later it was for Pen, she wanted to restore their reputation that Pen herself was responsible for and later she just lost interest. I find Pen selfish, if it was someone else then colin I don't think she would have done so much, she would have rather let them get married. Eloise was more childish and did things on wimp. She might not have much trouble compared to Pen in life but she had her own things and I can understand her not wanting to get married or her dreams. Small or big problems areproblems. And I don't think Pen was saving money for the family and it's ok afterall they never treated her good

[@eroesel077]

She’s definitely not my favorite and I would pick Pen over her all day

[@mortalinstruments6285]

Eloise is not selfish or annoying , she just has to much pressure on her , her entire life people expected her to be ladylike , beautiful and quiet - like her sister - but she didn’t want that , she was brave and refused to marry at a young age , which was difficult in that time , Everyone says all Eloise ever did was talk but what was she supposed to do , become a gossip like pen , even is she did become something , she wasn’t allowed she was always followed , she had no privacy , and everyone had high expectations since she was a bridgerton Pen was selfish , she wasn’t saving money for her family , because she couldn’t give it to them because she would have to explain where she got it from , plus she never showed any interest in helping her family with the money Pen wrote about her family, her friends , and her friends family , and for what ? She did it because she was jealous , she ruined Colin’s relationship, and Eloise She doesn’t deserve either of them

[@cyde1345]

I'm not team anyone, i want them to make up and be best friends again❤

[@sarahduke2839]

I had friends that pity me I am not a wallflower I will stand up for myself

[@shuhao2817]

both of them have their own faults honestly but i still find Eloise very annoying. just a privileged teenager who thinks she isn't like other girls.

[@TanjaMeyer]

Eloise really is something else...

[@Khiarika1]

Penelope was wrong in how she handled 'saving' Eloise, but Eloise is ANNOYINGGGG. She isn't even lady whistledown, doesn't know who she is, but because of her senseless, careless behavior she is under heavy suspicion of BEING Lady Whistledown??? Is anyone surprised that Penelope never told her? It was annoying watching her make those insane risks she took and when she got caught she was going to compound it by plagiarizing the author who was still living in writing. I actually like Eloise (her awkwardness, fierceness and loyalty) and I know the writers will turn her around, but Last season the writers made Eloise VERY dumb in both her ideas and her behavior. If I were Penelope, at the moment I was ready to give it all up for Eloise, I would have gotten Violet (and possibly Lady Danbury) involved. Pen is astute, she must have realized how well they ( and her own mother) are at manipulating the ton by now.

[@venn6099]

You never actually bothered to see her so yes you actually do not know her.

[@raven_in_disguise1649]

Cant wait until Colin as well gets hit with this reality, where he realizes that he doesn't know Penelope at all because hes full of himself and always in his head

[@SeinMaibo]

How do you know someone that doesn’t express themselves exactly? It’s a two way street. While I admit, Eloise rants on and one. Pen has to speak up. It’s not like Eloise just goes “okay but my life is harder!” She has always understood pen’s problems and stood up for her during the ball scene. I would understand the “Eloise is a selfish friend” thing IF Eloise actually acted as such. I just don’t like how much people blame Eloise for ‘’not seeing pen’ when pen has to show herself in the first place.

[@SafeRouteDown]

I just can't believe that they wouldn't think of having Eloise under lock and key and supervision to prove that lady whistledown is still writing even when it can't possibly be Eloise.

[@isabeldavidson4007]

idk if people are going to hate me for this, but i find eloise to be an annoying character. at first, i loved her. she was sassy, spoke her mind, and stuck to her feminist ideals but the more i look at her in season two, she just becomes more annoying by the episode. of course, she has her charming moments but what pisses me off is that she doesn't understand what kind of priveledges she has as a bridgerton. her sister is a duchess, her family is affluent in every way, so no matter if she is odd or outspoken, she has her family to back her up. she also doesn't listen to others advice/opinions? especially when penelope told eloise not to be around the news man, she actively ignored and continued to pursue him in chance of catching whistledown, thus putting her and her own family on the line for death or exile. all she does is whine as well, she can certainly talk the talk, but she never actually walks the walk. penelope is actually making money off of her whistledown ventures, all eloise does is whine to her about how unfair society is towards her. i would love to hear your opinions on eloise and penelope, no fighting please!!

[@Cocotea742]

All el does is judge. El has so much more resources to do something with her feminist views and still does nothing. While Pen is doing something. Yeah she is writing in secret because she doesn't have family reputation to fall back on. She's being safe, while letting it be know it is a woman writing. El was never a good friend. She didn't come to talk and try to understand Pen, she just came to throw words at her THEN WANTS TO ACT HURT WHEN PEN SPITS SOME TRUTH TO HER after she said hurtful things first! Mental!

[@makeurdreamintoreality]

In the books she get to know it after her wedding in book 4. And she wasn't like this

[@kathyparrow1390]

This scene made me dislike Eloise. You don't punch down. Pen has less of everything from money to advantages to choices and Eloise puts down the one extraordinary thing Pen does have. Which, by the by, Eloise, saved your bacon with the Queen. I don't know what will have to happen for me to like her again.

[@oliviarogers2808]

Pen is a hypocrite and doesn't deserve any success.

[@ashleyvogt4449]

Kinda of wish they didn’t change it from how she found out in the books

[@mg-cx5tv]

How it happened in the book ?

[@user-slay275]

@@mg-cx5tvColin found out first and after he married Penelope, they announced it together during a ball.

[@cloverazar5315]

The thing is that Penelope isn’t the originator of the gossip. Penelope isn’t a paparazzi snooping through dirty laundry; she’s observant at social events. She isn’t slipping into chamber pots to catch the latest shit talk; she’s chilling by the punch bowl listening to drunk people gossip. Her only crime is writing it down. And I will point out that Eloise Bridgerton’s mama comes from money, her sister Daphne is a Duchess, her brother is a Viscount, her various sisters all marry exceptionally well, and she herself has no need to marry for money because she’ll be given a lovely allowance and a genteel home by her loving family, whom all care for her regardless of her idiosyncrasies. Penelope is much less fortunate; she’s broke, her dad’s spent their money, and then he dies and their title and fortune is up in the air unless someone catches a pregnancy. Without Whistledown’s money, who’s going to take care of Penelope financially for the rest of her life? Eloise? The Bridgertons? Girl’s gotta look out for herself - and better that Pen proactively outs Eloise’s friendship with “political radicals”, than she get caught keeping chaperone-less company with a poor young dude. That’s the sort of scandal young ladies end up moving to India to get away from…

[@chanieee9566]

I don’t understand the hate Eloise is getting. Her feelings are totally valid. She was Penelope’s only real friend and Eloise was always loyal to her. Keeping her identity as Lady Whistledown is fine, but writing a controversial statement about your bestfriend just to keep her from finding your identity out is really low. Not only that, but revealing Marina’s pregnancy to the public just because you’re jealous of her and Colin being together was lower than the lows. To top it all off, the audacity of Penelope to tell Eloise that she’s “all talk but doesn’t do anything” was really shitty of her since Eloise has always been ambitious but being a woman in their society keeps blocking her way and Penelope should’ve known better. She’s no different because she’s hiding behind a different identity just to do what she wanted.

[@pranalid8454]

Eloise is a pretty self centered character and I would really love to see her character development. There were so many examples of her bubbled life and selfish choices. Like when she thought a servant would have the time to write/publish daily, or when she left her brothers wedding for a crush!, or when she was in the midst of her own scandal she still made clandestine visits to her crush regardless of how it would affect HER family. But the most striking one is that she had no idea that her best friend, who she spends every min with, is in love with her brother. No wonder she did not know who whistledown was either. She never even LISTENS to her BFF. It would be good to see her stand on women's right, make its way to supporting Penelope. Girl needs to grow up, get over herself and think about people beyond her.

[@josephinemartin]

I can't stand Eloise. Their entire friendship is incredibly one sided and it's all about her. All she does is complain about the ton and want to get away and do something for herself but she doesn't because she wants to have her cake and eat it too. Never once does she truly think about why Pen is Lady W. Pen needs the money to be independent of her horrible family. And yes Lady W does write about the Bridgertons because if she doesn't it'd be clear she favors them. Nothing Pen writes Eloise didn't bring on herself. As for the betrayal of the secret, I would share with Eloise either. She doesn't care about anyone but herself, is jealous that Pen can make independent money and she isn't and she's a terrible gossip. The show writers have a lot of work to do to repair Eloise and Pens friendship but it's not all on Pen.

[@Gingerm0nster]

Eloise is the regency era equivalent to a privileged teenager who fancies themselves an intelligent rebel but really doesn’t have the education to speak on anything and retreats to their comfort at home the moment they’re confronted with real life. Meanwhile, Pen is legitimately taking risks and being bold. Moving through high society in regency London the only way a woman can.

[@raven_in_disguise1649]

Exactly!!! I get the very big "ick" when people say Eloise was the victim and that she's a better character than Pen, I personally found her super annoying and ungrateful and taking for granted her privilege as being a bridgeton and taking for granted for having a loving family unlike Pen. I also hate how people say Eloise is dear friends with Pen, no she isn't Eloise never once in season 2 cared for pen and her family situation, all she cared about was in using Pen as a therapist to blabber about her ambitions that she never took action in, such an annoying character uuugh, Pen on ther hand is such a beautiful complex character with flaws which is super realistic and like you said she's bold and risk taker! I also hate how Eloise says this "all because you are too scared to put yourself out there" i am like Eloise you are stupid, it extremely dangerous for Penelope to reveal herself alot of people would want to hurt or even murder pen, uugh Eloise is immature, naive and lives under a rock to be honest, but after all this I still have hope that the writers will redeem Eloise...some how...

[@lorenzoguerrero7520]

I feel the same way. I do have to admire Penelope. Her word gave sway to the right people. At times, it saved Daphne, she had a competitive season partly due to Whistledown's pamphlet. Her influence swayed the Queen which brought on the Prince's challenge to Simon. I find it ironic though that Eloise presents herself as a feminist who would be silenced but never seems to make any power moves of her own nor does she respect the choices of her sister. Her sister wants to marry, she wants a family. It isn't because she was rendered choiceless, its because it is her choice. I can't help but feel some misogyny from Eloise because she doesn't care for Daphne's choices. In the end, Daphne has more social capital to do what she wants because she is the Duchess of Hastings.

[@-maru-chan]

both have their down sides, most of the characters here are not perfect. eloise is def too self entitled and unwilling to respect other people's choices than hers, while pen busy taking down everyone with her papers. Eloise is at fault for not putting enough attention on pen, and she's at fault too for writing about her bestfriend's family matters. if anything, u dont do that to ur own friend.

[@katcaraballo8620]

This exactly.

[@Cocotea742]

I totally agree

[@jeihaynes7077]

This was a masterclass on how to read a b*tch. Don’t get emotional. Go for the jugular. Cry when you’re alone. You’ll never lose an exchange

[@adevybanack1022]

These two are both really immature ! But at least Penelope did something even if sometimes her actions are not the best and they are not all wise. She hide herself behind LW while Eloise hide herself behind her family name and protection. I do not think that Eloise will be ruined because of LW paper, the scandal will pass and she is a Bridgerton. The Featherington suffers many scandals, they always struggle but they are still in the Ton. And moreover Eloise does not really want to be a part of the society or being maried. Eloise knew perfectly that her relationship with Théo will cause scandal in the Ton and she also knew that attending to a feminist reunion was a bad thing according the society. She think that she is different from people from the Ton but she is too naive and Theo point it out. They do not belong to the same world. Eloise feels betrayed by Pen that’ s normal because Pen exposed her without telling her that she is LW. But seeing this scene again show us that there was a little jealousy in both side. From Pen because El has many priviledge, she is not invisible and even if she does not want to be maried she has suitors while Pen is invisible. She can be what she wants. But not Pen. And From El point of view, El is a bit jealous because she never really considered the fact that Pen had her own opinion. She always considered her as her wallflower friend who will always agree with her and follow her. She understimated Pen. Eloïse never listen to anyone, she is too self centered. They needed that little argument to mature a little. Maybe this will be the start of Eloise change of mind about weddings ! I hope that she will be more open to others. And for sure Pen will change too, she has too much insecurities and needs to stand for herself like Eloise !

[@lobsterrevenge]

The Bridgerton brothers don’t even need to try to hide going to brothels from their mom. It’s not a tough trace and investigate, but you don’t admit that there are levels to gossip. What you would hide in a closet for to count as gossip, others hear in plain sight. Are they even comparable...you senseless beasts? You don’t care to distinguish between gossip, betrayal, or making a living buck to defy the social construct of fake beorgeois appropriateness which is supposedly such friendship betraying scandal that everybody recovers in a week from them. The other one was going to marry a pregnant Marina at a time they haven’t been married until Penelope saved him despite being Marina’s cousin. She gossiped about Eloise because BOTH, not one, of them thought, and said the Queen both would and can, finish Eloise’s whole family. Not only so, Penelope was convinced this is so by Eloise. This is not an “Asian mom makes you play piano because she knows what’s good for you” analogy. They have not a rat’s ass in common. Despite this, them being both feminists who understand the connotation and meaning of that paper, and Daphne possibly giving up to being married to wrinkled fat lord in season 1, fools here are talking about the so called big betrayal by Penelope. They talk and talk because it is never the fault of the people in power. No matter what they do and how destructive it is, it’s given empathy as “the context”. No matter how light Penelope’s doings are, not that she spies or flips through documents but simply gets invited to walkarounds, she is the villain, and you even have the gall to hate her for what she’s done to “other people” outside the Bridgertons who are self recognised breeding machines making their life’s worth on sipping tea and cracking hydrogen gas accent. You are the reason the evil in Bridgerton can exist. You cocksuckers are the REASON Nazis exist. YOU are the reason, everyone who’s in Antifa today would still be under Hitler in WWII.

[@Star20048]

Elosie fan girls over lady wistletown: 😊🙂 Elosie when she find out who she is : 🤬😡😭😤

[@loulie1997]

Uh, Pen never really wrote about anything that the Bridgertons didn’t do themselves. If they’d kept their noses clean, she wouldn’t have had anything to report on. Also, Eloise likes to blame her problems on everyone else. Poor, privileged Eloise, who isn’t like other girls and gets mad when a scandal of her own making catches up with her.

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

So the Bridgertons have to be perfect 24/7? Is that the logic you're going with?

[@user-slay275]

@@animec-dramaskpop6362No, just smart.

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

@@user-slay275 So they do have to be perfect 24/7. They have to be perfect robots who always know exactly what to do if they don't want to be betrayed by somebody they thought to be trustworthy. Y'all make Penelope sound disgusting.

[@user-slay275]

@@animec-dramaskpop6362 No, they just have to be smart about what they do. Don’t want lady whistledown to write about the things you do? Be sneaky about it. Seeing someone you aren’t supposed to be seeing? Wear a disguise. I haven’t even mentioned Penelope. But Eloise got caught on her own for not being smart. She was out in the open as a member of a prestigious family in the bad part of town, visiting a man alone as an unmarried woman. What did she think would happen?

[@kelechiememanka]

I love eloise so much

[@nighttempus5827]

I love Penelope that I do, but she deserved to be told off, she wrote about the bridgertton family CONSTANTLY Elois trusted her and Penelope did use that trust to somewhat backstab her in the name of gossip

[@natasha8966]

So should she let her friend and the bridgetons get casted out by the queen, at least what she wrote protected them would have been worse off if pen didn’t write about it.

[@tkyng2885]

She did tried to warn to drop the “Who is the infamous writer?” But no she had to Go off with a man without any supervision (especially with a man of low class) multiple times and she wasn’t being sneaky about it. Even if Lady Whistledown didn’t write it people would’ve gossip about it

[@IDK-dt5zu]

I am on Penelope side because Eloise is always trying to be a feminist and stuff but she never actually does anything about it however Penelope saw her goal and she wasn’t afraid to go after it and in most of the ones she wrote about Eloise’s family she was only trying to protect them

[@gloriajj]

she looks like a gorgeous plush doll. i want to have a tea party with her.

[@jolie7751]

She wrote about Eloise because she wanted to protect her , she had no other choice. And she also never wrote something bad about her family, she was very unfair to her in this scene

[@bloodyhell95]

I understand that Penelope wrote about Eloise and Theo to draw the Queens suspicions away from Eloise, but it was so poorly done. Lady Whistledown, from the very beginning has targeted Eloises family. Yes, the whole Ton was written about but the Bridgerton's were targeted the most simply because Penelope happened to have an in to the most sensitive details due to her friendship with Eloise. Like it's the equivalence of your best friend using everything you've ever told them I confidence to become KZbin famous. That would definitely change how I see someone. Even if I can forgive them and move on, the friendship would never be the same because now I know that my secrets are not safe with this person.

[@mbburke3780]

💔💔💔💔just heart breaking all around .

[@janirudhreddy1574]

Penelope's actions towards the bridgertons were all justified. She only wrote something when it was too evident ( about the bridgertons). She said Daphne lacked suitors but that was because of Anthony. and later she wrote about Eloise but only to save her from the queen. Eloise did not think right and definitely overreacted in her anger. The only embarrassment the bridgertons brought upon themselves were only because of their actions. Anthony's haste and Eloise's fantasy land which would possibly never come true.

[@Sun.Shine-]

Pen was not a girl's girl!

[@natasha8966]

Can say the same for Eloise

[@mu9173]

Pen did wrong, Eloise did have a right to be angry but take it in the 1800s perspective from the point of view of a teenager. Eloise is so blessed that she got wealth, suitors, family and brothers who will defend her, love her unconditionally and would never make her feel alone or abandoned. She never has to worry about food, roof to live, love of the family or being left alone. Such enormous blessings should atleast provide sympathy for the less fortunate as Penelope life is. All the blessings Eloise has is the exact opposite miserable life that was Penelope. I do condemn Pen ways but I just expect more symphathy and understanding from Eloise.

[@officialdentist8182]

Hard.. the only people who have the power to hurt you are your best friends.. they know all your secrets too

[@harleypaul3400]

I think the only reason I agree with Eloise is because how much is negatively said about her family by the end because Pen could have revealed herself but instead wrote the pamphlet on Eloise and trusted information. I hope there is reconciliation between the two in season 3❤️

[@natasha8966]

Her family with be fine, they are the bridgetons people will forget they have influence. I’m sure Eloise will be fine like always pen literally saved from the queen.

[@zombachi3924]

I really hope eloise won't forgive her for a very long time

[@heartlocket91]

Eloise was a terrible friend to Penelope. She seem’s to forget that had Penelope not have done what she did the Queen would’ve gotten involved. She would’ve destroyed the Bridgerton name and their reputation in society. Where was Eloise’s support for Pen? This was what, her second season out with no suitors ? She knows Penelope want’s marriage and children. Eloise was just to selfish. She doesn’t have to worry about not being excepted by the Ton. She’s a Bridgerton her family are respected and wealthy. She has so much privilege and yet she acts oppressed. Penelope deserves happiness. I just hope she shows them all including Eloise that she’s no longer the wallflower they describe her as in season 3.

[@katsukies3229]

She can over do it sometimes but she’s kinda right

[@antiks]

Team Eloise.

[@brahmabkitty03]

Eloise is just mad that Pen has her own identity and she can’t control her anymore. Now Eloise is being Cressida’s lap dog

[@MariaPaula-uw3ds]

Eloise talks as if Pen really had much choice here

[@Satyaahere]

"The only way to prepare tea is to add the milk after" Indians who live on tea😶

[@kawaiic4586]

So I don’t think she betrayed El, El had a choice to not go see that boy pen kept warning her, but she didn’t want to listen so the queen found out and threaten El and then El she told Penn and Pen who is lady whistledown had a choice which was to stay hidden and not protect her friend and her family or yes Expose her friend but it would protect El and El’s family. El refuse to see that then said hurtful shit and then befriended the person who bullied people not just people was rude to El’s older sister and then rude to Pen and others! Some people forget El was obsessed with the reading the gossiping each day! She had a collection! Honestly if Pen was my best friend and I found out how I did, yes I would be upset but I would not unfriend her or say hurtful shit towards her. I’ll ask for space and then come back to talk to her about everything!

[@ChiagozieOkwor-wc9qi]

Penelope/ lady whistledown couldn’t write about anyone else except her own friend. I’m on Eloise side.

[@jimmyisherenow]

Eloise is one to talk. She has a crush on the peasant boy but won't admit it.

[@zeynepustalar]

I find Pen really sneaky, she heard from Eloise and wrote it. She has the anger towards everyone but she is angry with herself the most and this is the way she gets revenge from society, I wish she didn’t use Eloise. And Eloise was right about what she was saying.

[@natasha8966]

She saved Eloise from the queen, yes she can feel betrayed that she didn’t know pen was LWD but Eloise is a Bridgeton which she will be fine as they have influence be forgotten in like a couple of weeks. If she been caught with Theo would of been worse

[@mariaschellenbergmezzo]

Yeah tell her!

[@litmemes8560]

I mean Eloise isn’t wrong

[@sarahelizabeth843]

I understand Eloise’s reaction but I also understand Penelope’s actions😭🥹 that’s what makes this scene so heartbreaking because they both have their reasons and they are both valid 🥹