Warrior Cats HOT TAKES

In this video, I review your spiciest Warrior Cats opinions!
Thumbnail art is by Miss Dako: / miss_dakoart
Intro by Lapis Feder: / @lady_luzifer

[@ranboo0fpompoms]

Nightheart isn't a firestar clone, he's a breezepelt clone. parental issues, teenage angst, angery, black cat amber eyes. If he was a fourth arc cat he'd be manipulated into the dark forest by now angrily training to get revenge on all flame colored tabbies.

[@randomdots7758]

omw fr

[@IJustAnimateThatsTheJist]

My little edgelord 🥰🥰🥰

[@crimsonstaroftheclans3657]

I Love all characters mentioned in this comment. With a capital L.

[@snakesareamazing]

Nightheart is the perfect mix between Jayfeather and Breezepelt

[@swansonfamily5386]

Oh my god you are so right

[@ShibaStruck]

Scourge should have been given more time. Like sure he threatened to drive the cats out of the forest and killed Tigerstar, but it was all fixed in one book, and he was killed off and never seen again.

[@billblaski9523]

Scourge should have been the Vegeta or Sasuke of Warrior Cats

[@foxey9613]

i had seen so much discussion and art of him that i was definitely expecting him to stay for longer!! i was surprised when he died, lol

[@autumnstar]

exactly! ive just finished the first arc and im quite disappointed that scourge didnt stay longer, but he was an interesting character nonetheless

[@zolaf5759]

maybe when he was a a kitten I cared but when he became the monster it was a big *FAT* juicy no.

[@oliverspaws]

frigid take, scourge is one of the most popular characters in the fandom so i'm pretty sure everyone agrees with you

[@PatchworkRose567]

I want to see a medicine cat villain. I’m tired of the sweet, can do no wrong medicine cats. A mediator villain would also be cool, as the potential of these two powerful roles using their power to warp and bend the Clans to their benefit could be neat if done correctly.

[@ktkc1o7]

That almost happened with Goosefeather. Gotta agree there's a lot of potential with this idea.

[@BodiBaghead]

hell yes

[@sss-al1]

THIS!!!

[@orionyxe]

I think antagonist Mothwing (for reasons unrelated to her father) would've been really cool, but I do like her as is as well

[@zero17500]

Yellow fang left her clan, somewhat villain? Sorry, haven't gotten through even the first book lol

[@SonarTheBat]

Silverstream's death is sad even though she was a bland character. Her father had already lost so many loved ones, Greystripe lost the love of his life and her kittens would have to grow up without their mother.

[@ripscrumble]

Not me forgetting what happened in avos entirely x-x

[@asterkilgore]

​@@ripscrumble that wasn't from avos that was from arc 1

[@ALAST0R_R4DI0_D3M0N]

I'm just reading the book where she died ehwherebsdub eurbe

[@loup_perceptif]

Yes, actually Crookedstar's Promise was one of the wc books that made me really sad lol. Actually most of the super editions from this era were so sad to me, like Bluestar's Prophecy or Yellowfang's Secret

[@avacadotoast5571]

Yeah I personally didn't really care about *her* but I was sad for Greystripe 😅

[@silverscytheYT]

I think that a lot of people are forgetting that Stonefur even existed. I know this may be a weird thing to say but I personally feel he could’ve gotten more attention then just us barely getting to know his character in the first arc and the few super Editions and novellas he appeared in. Sure he got a bit of character development in Mistystar’s Omen, but I feel like we could’ve gotten more, like, it would’ve been kinda cool to see him appearing in a dream from Hollyleaf or something because of their similar lives with both of them being half clan. And let’s not forget that Stonefur had one of the most dramatic deaths in the first arc. Edit: Thanks for all the likes!

[@crimsonstaroftheclans3657]

THANK YOU! YES! STONEFUR IS AMAZING!

[@IJustAnimateThatsTheJist]

Man I kind of want to write a short story with Hollyleaf and Stonefur now. It would be nice to add some extra content for the both of them since they are criminally underrated as characters imo

[@damlatorun6756]

Ye I think stonefur should’ve been killed off a bit later or at least gotten some attention before his death

[@laciereinheart9490]

Stonefur was best deputy, and I still think Stonestar would have been a better leader than Bluestar 2.0. I like Mistyfoot, but goodness...

[@Hatsune1Miku019]

YES FR STONEFUR WAS MY FAV CHAR-

[@advil9567]

The reason why Dawn of the Clans is my favorite arc outside of The Prophecies Begin, is because it adds so much fresh lore and character arcs that we never see again. I feel like “two brothers who are close but drift apart and end up fighting each other,” is done better and way more dramatically between Gray Wing and Clear Sky while Brambleclaw and Hawkfrost wasn’t as deeply developed as I’d like. I understand that DOTC has problems with writing female characters to be as important as the male characters, but Wind Runner and Tall Shadow are definitely interesting, add weight to the plot, and are way more interesting than Thunder as Leaders. Gray Wing is also the best POV character I’ve ever read, his conflicts between Clear Sky and Thunder are so well written and interesting that none of the books in that series make me feel like I’m reading filler. Everything from Bright Streams death to Turtle Tail having kits with a kitty pet and Gray Wing loving them so much even after she dies is heartwarming. The kits are treated as more important in these books and we actually get to see them grow up and become adults with their own aspirations. These books definitely had the most effort put into them seeing as the writing team had to start completely from scratch and find reasons to explain why everything became part of the clans. I also kind of prefer the names of the cats in these books, we have some really good ones that aren’t represented in new books at all like: Jackdaws Cry Sun Shadow Jagged Peak Clear Sky River Ripple Turtle Tail Star Flower Moth Flight Quiet Rain Like these name combinations are never seen to the extent as they are in DOTC. I also think all of the tension and drama and death surrounding the territories are more realistic. We have cats actually being described as having their flesh melting off from a fire, cats falling to their death, siblings murdering each other in graphic detail after seeing their great relationships (Jackdaws Cry and Falling Feather if I remembered her name correctly) the deaths have so much weight to them in this arc that pretty much all of them take a toll on many characters throughout the books. Clear Sky losing literally every single one of his mates one after the other is hilariously tragic and Gray Wings death is probably the most emotionally charged death in the series. Getting a POV death is basically unheard of for the main series and Gray Wing is a fan favorite, so actually seeing him die like that is a tear jerker for sure.

[@AMYPIPER-n2e]

I agree with everything you said in this comment. They're such emotionally filled books and its compelling to see how the clans were made.

[@abidehart248]

Yes! Yes! Yes! Very good points! Almost all the other arcs seem boring compared to DOC, and the only thing DOC could've done differently was not rushing Clearsky being forgiven. He did lots of crappy stuff, and honestly didn't deserve to go to Starclan or become a leader. It would have been really cool if he was the first cat in the Darkforest, especially because he did worse stuff than Thistleclaw and Mapleshade.

[@Vixenwillow_]

Yeah, the deaths were dramatic and the naming system was great, but Clear Sky's villain arc was *COMPLETELY* ruined. Everyone was just forced to forgive him and were just like "Ok, you kicked your son out of your clan twice, started a war, stole territory, attacked people for saying something you don't like, and exiled cats for being injured. Let's forgive you like nothing ever happened!" For god's sake he's *so* much worse than Mapleshade.

[@uhoh8489]

You're 100% correct! I love DotC!

[@Vinethewolf]

Dawn of the clans is SO underrated. You don’t have to read them to read the vision of shadows. But you’d probably be confused at who this ‘Grey wing’ is in a light in the mist, of which the strange cat who was talking to Twigbranch when she was finding her kin. I definitely agree though

[@leosmith-moores1213]

Why, do we always seem to forget Ravenpaw’s death, it was the saddest by far. No contest.

[@Error-gz3pp]

Because Ravenpaw’s death was in a novella that a lot of Warriors fans may not have read.

[@lj2659]

I genuinely think TBC and ASC are some of the best arcs. They’re dark and the protagonists have unique personalities. Especially ASC they actually listened to fans and have made a lot of cats seem more like there own characters and have more cat to cat interactions that are meaningful

[@crimsonstaroftheclans3657]

I mean, they aren’t as bad as people make them out to be.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

TBC isn't dark. And I would rather have the most boring protagonist ever than have to read one more chapter of Rootpaw from the first two books. That kid was so insufferable.

[@aesthetic_writer]

​@legrandliseur tri Same. TBC was boring up until the last two books in my opinion.

[@IJustAnimateThatsTheJist]

Yeah honestly the past couple of arcs have been fantastic in terms of quality compared to OOTS, TPOT, or the one with Twigbranch and Violetshine. I just hope they keep taking criticism like they have been. SPOILERS BELOW: Hearing about Bramblestar leaving/stepping down as leader in the newest book is a huge leap in terms of what's going on with the messaging in the books. Hopefully they won't unintentionally write another abusive character again because guinuinely good lessons can be taught about grooming/abusive mannerisms and behaviors to children as warnings about predators they may encounter. (Spottedleaf's Heart, for example, had a really interesting potential lesson with Thistleclaw being a child groomer/predator but they absolutely ruined everyone and everything involved. Bramblestar is a great example of a guy they wanted to have as a "they fight but they always come back stronger" husband to Squirrelflight but instead they write him constantly gaslighting and emotionally abusing her.)

[@lj2659]

@@IJustAnimateThatsTheJist so glad you agree!! They have been actively taking criticism and improving, especially with Bramblestar

[@polygonal_rat]

If I'm being honest, I REALLY want Nightheart to turn into a major antagonist. I know we will probably get someone else with the whole RiverClan chaos, but I kinda want Nightheart to turn his angsty teenage phase into more of a villainous era. It's unlikely to happen, since you know that the Erins couldn't possibly make a forbidden romance actually bad, but Nightheart possibly being rejected by ALL of the clans and antagonising ALL of the cats (Sunbeam and all of his family especially) could be a good pov. It's the only redemption Breezepelt 2.0 could get now

[@bluef0xy932]

I honestly think part of the reason I loved the first arc so much was partly the nostalgia, but also the fact we got personalities of the rest of the clan other than just names, and also the fact Starclan and medicine cats were so much more mysterious and I loved that, now it’s just a bunch of chaotic cats that have no idea what’s going on

[@OnlyLonelyHamster]

Scourge is kind of a weird character. If you’re reading TPB and you already have heard of Scourge, you’re probably anticipating this as a big finale, instead he’s just some random rouge that shows up last book. He’s like Yoda, only popular because of his unique nature, with little “screen time”.

[@_Jell_0]

I was superrr excited to see the part with the Bloodclan battle because I thought it would be epic, and it was but Scourge kinda just died a few pages in- I would love to see more of Bloodclan too, since we only knew much about Bone and Scourge.

[@Sparky15015]

Shadowsight is one of my favorites. He doesn't want anything bad to happen and tries to make things right but it only ends up worsening the situation. Shadowsight is like an outcast when all he wanted to do was help the Clans. What annoys me is how the Clans flicker between being understanding and being impulsive. Well, it's kind of always been like that but with Shadowsight, I can't recall at least 3 cats who defended him (if you can, please name them because I can't remember). It was basically the Clans berating a young cat for his mistake.

[@YellowTheSus]

samee

[@megangramlin2971]

I honestly think feathertail was soooo underrated. She was brought in with the first "dramatic" scene with silverstreams death just for her not to do anything? Sure she had her dramatic moments of almost being killed by tigerstar but that was only dramatic bc of stone fur! Then she gets this big message from Starclan on how she has to save the forest and then dies!? WHAT!? She was so sweet and their was so much much more that could have happened for her...

[@aynmwa]

What do you mean she didnt do anything in silverstreams death? she didnt even have her eyes open and couldnt even walk or mewl

[@alexismyers6053]

I think what made Jayfeather interesting was that when he was a POV MC, we got to see his thoughts, which showed the reasons as to WHY he was grumpy and reacted the way her did. Now, we don’t see that so all we see is “grumpy old kitty who wants to claw everyone but morally can’t, so he’ll hurt you in other way” but we aren’t seeing what’s going on in his head. When Alderpaw was having difficulties with him while Leafpool was in ShadowClan, Alderpaw snapping at Jayfeather probably reminded Jayfeather of when HE was an apprentice dealing with Leafpool and made him reflect on how he treated his apprentice, which was how he came to the conclusion that Alderpaw was ready to be given his medicine cat name. That’s the kind of thinking Jayfeather has, but we’ll never know because we never saw it like we did when he was a POV MC.

[@jaydrawz53]

I find in almost many medias, especially video games, Mc's are vastly different in 1st person vs 3rd person

[@punkpink975]

Here’s a hot take for y’all: the Tribe was actually a really interesting concept. When I first read the series, I assumed there would be four of them just like how there were four Clans (SkyClan wasn’t even a blip on my radar at the time), and the Tribe of Rushing Water was just the RiverClan equivalent or something. I saw them and I was like “wow, that’s cool, does the type of society these wild cats form depend on where they live? Like, do some become a Clan and some become a Tribe? What else is out there? I can’t wait to meet an alternate Clan of sorts!” But then it wasn’t any of that and it sucked. And then PoT/OotS just made it even more confusing with ancient cats. I think one of my least favorite things was a super petty gripe I had with Stoneteller- if he hates Clan culture so much, why didn’t he rename Stormfur? Imagine how cool of a Tribe name he could’ve had! “Storm over raging water” or something, I dunno, I came up with several back when this thought first crossed my mind. So yea, TLDR, I assumed the Tribe was going to be a cool new thing, and it wasn’t. But I stand by my opinion that the Tribe(s) had potential to be so much more.

[@kumeoii]

It is a very interesting concept!! Personally I love the tribe, but it’s not common to see others liking them.

[@dna_rosepetal_wcue]

The tribe is Cultural appropriation so

[@Fr_Waffledz]

bluestar *was* reasoning leading to swiftpaws death. swift wanted to prove to blue that he was ready to be a warrior, so thats why he tried to fight the dogs.

[@eyesxre12]

Hot take: I honestly think that Fireheart/star was a good main protagonist, and that caused me to have a hard time moving onto Brambleclaw's perspective (Fireheart/star is one of my favorite characters too!)

[@Vetro-the-introvert]

“OKAY BROKENSTAR I DIDN’T KNOW YOU HAD A KZbin ACCOUNT” I was dying when akira just said thqt

[@Bee8467]

3:42 skyclan’s destiny isn’t that bad :/ i actually liked it, the characters actually felt like characters instead of nobodies and seeing there journeys was enjoyable. (Keep in mind i skipped sticks chapters because I didn’t care so that made reading it enjoyable)

[@Ashcloud3228]

Ikr

[@HazelnutCat_O-O]

TigerStar’s death was too sudden. He was actually a good villain and he honestly scared me more than scourge. It was so obvious that LionClan could defeat BloodClan honestly and TigerClan freaked me out. Like obviously the main characters weren’t gonna die but what if a loveable side character died?? And in the BloodClan vs. LionClan battle, basically nobody that we were TOO attached to died. (No offense WhiteStorm lovers)

[@DawneWC]

Ngl I almost guarantee that Bluestar would be called selfish for NOT taking her kits to Riverclan. She was told that Thunderclan would be destroyed if Thistleclaw became deputy and Sunstar literally told he he was making Thistleclaw deputy because she had kits to look after. Bluestar made the right decision. If she didn’t bring them to Riverclan the fandom would likely call her selfish because she didn’t save Thunderclan, and just cared about her kits.

[@Vixenwillow_]

12:05 is so true. Like, the only medicine cats now are ones that have disabilities and were literally forced to take the role against their will.

[@L3M0N-SPR0UT]

I think that if Frecklewish and all went to the dark forest Bluestar, all the other cats that mildly broke the warrior code with forbidden romances, leafpool, crow feather, lionblaze, oakheart, Graystripe, silverstream, etc etc, and other cats who mildly broke the code should go as well. All the “bad” they did and stuff could be compared and be almost equal to frecklewish, but they didn’t go to the dark forest, only freckkewish did, because in maple shades eyes FRECKLEWISH was the villain. They were writing it from her perspective, which when they were writing made Frecklewish seem all bad and probably when the Erin’s put her in the darkforest only thought of Mapleshades wrong accusations. Erin’s be like: kill your self trying to save some pretty much already dead kits ! Starclan is coming your way! Erin’s also be like: omg you ugly fox hearted cat you didn’t kill your self to save some babies which would have died anyway? You evil cat! Go to the darkforest. The cats other than Frecklewish only went to the darkforest because they were “good” main characters, friends of “good” main characters etc. they were so easily forgiven. Also, the leader (forgot their name) when Mapleshade was alive, in thunderclan, was DOUBLE AS BAD AS FRECKLEWISH. APPLEDUSK TOO. omg sorry I feel so damn strongly about this.

[@Littlefox1213]

Then there’s Russetfur. Didn’t she watch Berrypaw lose his tail? She’s living the life in StarClan rn

[@L3M0N-SPR0UT]

@@Littlefox1213 fr

[@orchidoxs126]

Same! If you think about it, there would have been no way for her to be close to reaching them. Mapleshade could hardly catch her kits, and when she did she struggled catching the other two and the one she did have was let go. Mapleshade was the closest cat to them, how would frecklewish be able to swim up and catch them? That would be impossible. And another point, when saving mapleshade, the river clan cats didn't jump into the water to save her, they pulled her up with stick. And I could make so many other points, in the book it says it was hard to hear in the rain, so for mapleshade to hear the river clan cats she would've had to be extremely close to the edge of riverclan. Frecklewish in my opinion, only crime was yelling at those kittens, they didn't deserve it, and you wanna make that arguement fine, but since rainflower is in starclan i will argue that frecklewish shouldn't have been condemned to cat hell. Frecklewish at worst is a morally gray cat, Wouldn't argue she a good cat but a cat worthy of being in the dark forest when cats who've done so much worse are in heaven chilling? No. Just no.

[@L3M0N-SPR0UT]

@@orchidoxs126 yeah I agree

[@Thewavedemonjackal]

I personally thing it was a good idea to send her to the DF. I don’t think she deserved it, don’t get me wrong. But that’s exactly why I think it works. Cuz you’re right. They put squirrelflight on trial for something they forced her to do. They let Ashfur into Starclan. I know this probably wasn’t what they’re going with. But I like to think this could be good build up for the whole “Starclan is incredibly flawed and somewhat corrupt” theory that I’ve seen floating around

[@SingularNoodle]

Mapleshade did NOT deserve to be exlied for her kits. There have been many half-clan kits in the series, such as Silverstream & Graystripe's kits, Oakheart & Bluestar's kits, and Crowfeather & Leafpool's kits. I understand why Silverstream and Bluestar were not punished for their kits because they died when the secret got out, but with Leafpool and Crowfeather, Crowfeather got no punishment, and Leafpool just temporarily lost her role as a medicine cat.

[@SethMyles]

Tbh they should have made Shadowsight go insane after losing the connection

[@airconditionedBreeze]

He kind of did though, he doubted himself a lot of the times

[@SethMyles]

@@airconditionedBreeze yeah but i would love if he turned into next villain but he actually becomes kinda good after evil arc

[@musicalhearts2879]

2:11 YES! YES!! FINALLY!!! I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS THIS!! Swiftpaw and Brightpaw were actually a bit older than Cloudtail, yet Cloudtail was old enough to be a warrior, therefore so were Swiftpaw and Brightpaw. They may have not been 100% fully grown, but they were definitely warrior size.

[@antisocial_butterfly1]

My hot take is that every once in a while in the really sad and dark arcs, we just need a scene of a normal day in clan life. We never see normal days where nothing happens. I also really liked squirrelflight’s Hope when squirrelflight and leafpool go to starclan for a little bit, because it is a nice refreshing happy break from all the drama. I want to see that more!

[@legs1870]

Ivypool didn’t need a mate or kits. It seems as if if your a she-cat, you need a mate. Ivypool was a perfect cat who didn’t need a mate or needed to have kits

[@hamia321]

But I do think that Fernsong being the one to stay in the nursery most of the time was pretty creative.

[@holyturtlemaster6303]

They wanted her kits to be the new series protagonist, that’s probably why

[@alyssabullock6421]

This might be one of the hottest takes, but as someone who recently re-read the first arc, I'm gonna say it: Scourge isn't a good villain. His motives behind what he does are childish, and his potential was wasted so hard because he only existed for a _portion_ of ONE book. The fact that one encounter with Tigerstar that didn't even leave him with major injury caused him to hold resentment towards the guy (and possibly the entire clans) and slaughter him so brutally is pathetic, really. Tigerstar was a villain that got built on and truly felt sinister and cunning, and he was prepared to become Firestar's _true_ enemy, only to be shamefully killed off by a tiny cat over a grudge from YEARS prior. And then, despite showing how absolutely "powerful" and terrifying Scourge is, they decide to kill him off in the very same book, instead of letting _him_ grow into a better villain who could have been the second arc's major threat. Like seriously, that would have been SO cool! Plus, they could have leaned into Firestar learning about Scourge being related to him in some way (if they really wanted to). While it's neat that they are half brothers, the information is just as worthless as knowing Darkstripe and Graystripe are half brothers because the series DOESNT ACKNOWLEDGE THESE THINGS. Imagine how much more emotional, mental impact there could be if the storylines made it clear that some of these characters are related. It makes the deaths and drama more complex when you know these are siblings who are forced to fight and kill each other y'know?

[@dogsandcatsrule3856]

I had a theory and hot take of why Ashfur was worse then Mapleshade (but it was made before the Broken code serries existed so please keep that in mind 😅): [WARNING: While I feel like it's already explanitory that there will be spoilers to Mapleshade's Vengence, The New Prophecy serries, and Power of Three serries I just wanted to give a warning just in case. So if you havent read those books yet please dont continue to read] Ashfur is FAR worse then Mapleshade, so I'm going to explain why. In Mapleshade's past she was put through so much stress and trauma happening on the same day that she got temporary insanity and schizophrenic halucinations. She truly believed and thought that her kits couldn't rest until she avenged them. Mapleshade loved her kits with all her heart, they were her world and ment everything to her. In the story she shows them nothing but love, and so when they drowned she felt like she had abandoned and betrayed them. Some people often forget that when the kits were drowning Mapleshade was so desperate to save them that she didnt care if she drowned along with them or died saving them. To show an example think of if there was a human mother (at the age of 19 or 20) who had never raised a baby before so this was her first time doing so leading her to be rather inexperienced and naive. On top of that she had to raise her baby on her own which made it even more difficult. So said mother had gotten a new car seat and thought that she tightened the seatbelt properly before starting to drive, but what she didnt know was that it actaully was on improperly accidentally putting her baby in danger. As she is driving safely another semi-truck had gone off the road and rammed into her car (so it was completely out of her control). The mom survived, but her baby died in the accident. In that situation you wouldn't blame the mother and say that she didn't care enough, you'd support her and try to tell her that she didnt mean for this to happen. Though a lot of people still blame Mapleshade despite the fact that her kits dying were exactly the same type of situation. Mapleshade was the type of mon who would do anything for her kids, so seeing them trapped in a purgatory state desperately asking her to avenge her over and over finally broke her. When she killed the three cats she wasnt in control or free will/sanity when she did so. Ashfur on the other hand knew EXACTLY what he was doing, he was in control of his actions and knew how cruel and sadistic his actions were, but he didnt care. Ashfur has the quote in quote "nice guy" problem where he assumed that Squirrelflight owed him and had to be his mate since he was nice to her. Not caring about how she felt and only thinking of himself, but yet he claimed to be the victim in all of it... Now he might've not suceded in killing three cats unlike Mapleshade, but he was fully in control while he did so. [WARNING: There will be spoilers of the Harry Potter series so if you havent read those books dont read the rest of this paragraph] Another good example of this type of argument is that Umbrige is seriously far worse then Voldermort. Voldermort being born by his father who was under a love spell cannot feel love or kindnesd, he LITERALLY is unable to do so. On the other hand Mrs. Umbrige does know what she is doing and can feel love and kindness, yet she chooses to hurt others anyways.

[@IJustAnimateThatsTheJist]

I'd also like to add that Ashfur not only kept his hatred for Squirrelflight over the years but acted on it multiple times while everything that happened to Mapleshade was very sudden. While rejection sucks, the fact that he balled it up for awhile, abused her adopted son (Lionblaze) and took advantage of his mentor status over him as a trusted adult warrior, and even attempted to kill her children to make her feel awful isn't even near justified. (TBC adds more to this as well, he continued to ball up his hatred rather than resolve it and it lead to many people dying because he couldn't get over the fact that Squirrelflight didn't love him like that.) Honestly Hollyleaf killing him may have been the best thing to happen to him. He may have gone on to do worse if he was to keep living since TBC proves that he didn't learn from the fire scene. Now onto Mapleshade. While I don't condone her actions in the murders of Ravenwing, Frecklewish, and Appledusk, there is a lot going on with her mentally with how she operated during her time alive. As you've mentioned, everything traumatic happened within a span of a couple of days so the shock was guaranteed to stick around until the time of her death. Shock and grief can do a lot to a person, so it's very easy to see why she committed the heinous crimes she did. That's why I'll always argue that Ashfur was worse than Mapleshade while they were both alive. 1st degree murder is always considered worst than 2nd degree murder in a mass majority of cases. (The only thing arguable about the two is the overall damage caused to other people, which Mapleshade is the queen of causing extreme harm to others lol)

[@SillyRyemoment]

THIS!! THIS!!!!

[@rainylittleflowers]

Yes! Mapleshade is my favourite character

[@Ruthvika_Rajesh]

Okay but- Yes.

[@C0T0N_TH3R1AN]

"OK BROKEN'STAR" really got me💀

[@_meangimmy_]

Spotted leaf is a good character. The drama about her being Firestar’s second love and not being able to move on is something that the fandom is just wasting their breath on. Even if this scenario is so bad then why don’t we all hate Feathertail?

[@BlommingBee]

Seoul sly though yeah Spottedleaf was a little weird in the dreams but also Firestar was seriously also holding on and when he was forepaw if I remember correctly I don’t think she really talked to him when he was alive at least but in general I think like one or two prophesys

[@miawmiawmiawmi]

THANK YOU I LOVE HER

[@LunaFlower-pz5wh]

Hot take: Firestar is the best cat in all the series, The first arc is the best one, And Firestar's quest is my fav warriors book ever:)

[@alexy5611]

Daaaannnnggggg hot

[@kaniz1856]

Not the best but very close

[@alyssabullock6421]

I found Silverstream's death to be VERY tragic, but not sad. I cried more over Badgerfang dying than Silverstream. In fact, Silverstream didn't make me cry at all. But it was tragic. Very tragic.

[@chickenandric3]

BADGERFANG was the saddest one for me

[@StealthheartDraws]

Mapleshade, knowing full well that half-Clan kits were against the Warrior Code, Chose to be open about her relationship and the kits’ father as far as I remember. That was reckless. She also tried to cross the river on her own. Bluestar, while I still don’t condone her actions entirely, at least hid their parents and made arrangements beforehand for her kits to be safe.

[@theplaidbutterflyprince]

I am a 'boring' book supporter personally. Show me cats just being normal ass warriors/MCs, it's awesome in my opinion, because I would 100% prefer to be a boring warrior cat than a person and it's nice to see a life I'd rather live Good to see my take in this! :D

[@Green_Real]

The people who said: "Bluestar should go to the dark forest" are the people that hadn't even read the wiki page on her 💀

[@byfuzzerabbit]

Bramblestar has PTSD, i don’t think that makes him a bad leader for stepping down. However i think he will end be regaining his leader role near the end. Now that he’s admitted to the problem, he can work with medicine cats to recover.

[@iris-snow]

Honestly, I like Firestar’s quest, probably because it was my first super edition that I read.

[@pillowmoment]

Critique of the fandom A lot of rewrites or AUs revolving around ships and stuff that I see are super forced. They feel ingenuine and really do nothing towards rep. You wanna know why? We don’t have that many healthy friendship dynamics in warriors. We don’t see characters with strong platonic connections. Taking the ones we have and making them romantic is stupid. It is just as important to show healthy friendships as it is to show healthy romantic relationships. Warriors does neither of those things well. But it has more romance than friendships, tends to not just.. forget about relationships like it does to friendships. For god’s sake, let the characters have friends… And don’t erase characters with queer implications? Mousefur is implied to be canonically asexual and aromantic. I’ve seen people take that away and say “well in my opinion, actually she dated another she-cat!” That’s erasure. I don’t care if it’s lesbian rep, or mspec rep or whatever. Aroace rep is so hard to find. At least let us have that? Please warriors fandom. Not everything needs to be gay. There are other identities. Note: i’m not against queer rep. BUT if you’re going to have a headcanon like that and be so serious about it, at least give it a base. If there’s no chemistry, it’s still a bad ship. Even modern canon would butcher rep if they tried considering how terribly they write straight characters. I’m all for queer rep actually, but it’s not good rep if it’s forced. I’m pansexual if it matters, don’t take this the wrong way.

[@thelittlepoppy8970]

I'm glad someone mentioned that there are no windclan protagonists I felt that everyone was always saying that riverclan should get a protagonist and forgetting about windclan also we need less shadowclan protagonists and thunderclan obviously

[@guidinglight9082]

I really like Lionblaze, he left a big impact on me and I don't think he's at all forgettable!

[@waveeyes]

Me too. Hell, I'll go further: Lionblaze is on the whole my second favourite PoV in the PoT-Omen saga (number 1 is Ivypool). Jayfeather definitely have some great moments too, but personally I can think of way more Lionblaze scenes that stuck with me.

[@guidinglight9082]

@@waveeyes He was my favourite PoT character.

[@kaniz1856]

I see your side of the story but I strongly disagree. Try reading his chapters without getting bored

[@ghostcaty]

I also like Lionblaze. I would say I was the most invested in his character while reading tPoT even though they didn't conclude things the best way imo. I really found his issues interesting. In OotS as well. I feel like the fandom sees him as a totally different character than I see him as.

[@waveeyes]

@@ghostcaty Yea I feel the same. I loved reading all of Lionblaze's mental struggles. He may be near unbeatable in physical combad and never risk any bodily harm. But he's still as voulnerable as anyone else mentally. Hell, even beyond that I've said many times that Lion-Jay is my favourite sibling dynamic in the series. And that wouldn't be possible if not both Lionblaze and Jayfeather contributed to it. They may argue and get on each others nerves every now and then but they still clearly love each other.

[@redtailarts101]

I 100% blame Mapleshade for the death of her kits, her stupid choices killed them. But Miss Dako is right. Bluestar is also a terrible mother. Mosskit died because she gave up her kits to be a leader. She was too paranoid about Thistleclaw and it was confirmed never going to happen. Both cats took their young children out into dangerous areas (rapid river, snowstorm) and Bluestar's kits were way younger than Mapleshade's. I think the reason people don't fiercely condemn Bluestar as much is just because Bluestar doesn't blame everyone else for Mosskit dying and her giving up Mistykit and Stonekit. Mapleshade is deluded into thinking she did nothing wrong. But yeah Bluestar is a terrible mother.

[@codisom2874]

I definitely agree with how the books should've stuck with the single protagonist

[@raina1848]

My hot take is that Leafstar is the best leader. It's not that I don’t think Firestar was great, but Leafstar had to deal with the very different situation of leading a clan for the first time without any other clans around to base things on. The gorge was completely separate from the lake, and she had to deal with finding a balance with the daylight warriors (and being criticized for having them) and her first deputy (Sharpclaw) constantly "testing" her. She liked to do things with her clan like training, too. And right when she was pretty much used to having Skyclan being apart, then Darktail came and screwed everything up so that she had to get used to living WITH the other clans for the first time. Skyclan was treated like crap so much being used as a doormat for Shadow Clan in Visions of Shadows and their territory being jerked around and cats saying they flat-out did not want Sky Clan around, and she had to go through a lot and almost ended up leaving because of it, so I'm sure it made her feel at points that this was what her ancestors must have felt before. I liked Firestar's Quest and Sky Clan's Destiny, too.

[@kevinreadsreddit6340]

When you said, 'Silverstream's death was no where near Cinderpelt's or Briarlight's death', I took that to heart. When I read Cinderpelt's death, I was crying and my mom came to check in on what was wrong because I was reading at 1 in the morning. hee hee night owl :)

[@jeremiahbristow7609]

Wait...if Bluestar not being in control of the dogs means that she wasn't responsible for Swiftpaw dying, then wouldn't the same logic apply to Mosskit's death?

[@mybrotherdied227]

Swiftpaw went off to fight the dogs on his own accord so it’s still his own fault for dying imo.

[@junsmilktea]

@@mybrotherdied227 Bluestar still indirectly (or directly) caused it He only went to make bluestar give him his warrior name

[@dinolil1474]

*taps mic* My hot-take is that Mapleshade is a bad mother - not because she led to her three kittens drowning, but because in the first chapter she states that she will eventually tell the clans that they are half-clan. She does not say 'I will tell my kittens', she says I will tell the clans *and* that they will be loyal to both RiverClan/ThunderClan simultaneously. This is a lot to put on them and completely ignores *their* feelings on the matter; I cannot help but wonder how Maple would've reacted if these kittens grew up and rejected her desire for them to be faithful to both clans, all cos she wanted to hang out with her kitty boyfriend.

[@danslyy]

I didn't think some of my Hot Takes would be here, so thank you!✨ (2:10) (6:54) One of the reasons (which I couldn't write because it would have been a long comment, like this one) why I don't like Crowpool is because I think they were both in a vulnerable situation and they weren't ready to start a relationship. (Crowfeather was still depressed by Feathertail's death, and Leafpool felt insecure about her position and believed that her clan would be fine without her.) From my own experience, I can say that when someone is depressed, sad or feels weak, gets very attached to the first person who gives them comfort. (That can be dangerous at a certain point.) I feel like Crowfeather, knowing Leafpool reciprocate his feelings, was happy to see that someone cared about his life, and Leafpool may have felt needed by someone. This is just my opinion. I don't hate the ship to the point of saying I want it off the books, but it's not one of my favorites either, although I admit it does have some sweet moments! Maybe if they had developed it further, I would have liked it.

[@Maplefrostu]

Just wanted to say it always surprises me when I find someone else who loathes Crowpool. I’ve hated that ship for literally 15 years. I really liked the dynamic between Feathertail and Crowfeather, found it very believable that they would fall in love over the ~3ish month long journey, and found her death very compelling. Additionally, I just always really liked Feathetail herself; her personality, story, attitude about all the things she had to overcome, et cetera. I find her infinitely more interesting than Leafpool. Then along comes Leafpool, possibly the most boring and unambiguously “good” POV character we’ve ever had the misfortune of reading. Not only is she boring as hell and painfully perfect (in every way that matters), the relationship between her and Crowfeather is so unbearably forced and sudden; they talk like, twice, over the course of a couple of weeks, and suddenly Crowfeather is “in love” with her. Despite the fact that Crowfeather and Feathertail spent far, far more time together than Crowfeather and Leafpool ever did. It’s truly unbelievable, extremely out of character for what we know of Crowfeather, and genuinely insulting to Feathertail’s memory. And yet… I am seemingly nearly alone in this opinion, as I always have been in this fandom… Crowpool is an inexplicably popular ship, whilst Feathercrow is frequently relegated to “Crowfeather’s teenage crush” relationship, etc. etc. Like guys, she literally died for him lmao. Anyway! Just wanted to say I’m glad somebody else agrees and recognizes the insanity/stupidity of the Crowpool relationship. Something that’s bothered me for a long time.

[@starflower220]

About Jake having kits with two other she cats..its not really explored because the warrior cats dont know much about twoleg stuff, but I would think it was a set up pairing and not a conscious choice for either of the cats. When the she-cat is in heat (not explored either since its a childrens series) humans often pair her up with someone elses tom-cat for a planned litter. Probably what has happened here as well

[@2pitaly332]

My opinion is that Star Clan has some Courption in it for allowing cat's like OakStar,AppleDusk,AshFur and OneStar in.

[@nyra8263]

appledusk is literally just a dude. the others are some of the worst cats in the series (onestar a little less horrendous but still horrendous) and appledusk is just a guy. he MAYBE cheated on mapleshade or reedshine literally nobody knows and its never confirmed in-book that he did cheat and yall are lumping him in with the dude that exiled his newborn children into the cold forest while the river is flooding

[@strangechimera9538]

@@nyra8263 that and the fact apple-dusk was trying to distance himself from maple because she was getting possessive of him and dove to take a blow for his then cat wife reed-shine

[@nyra8263]

@@strangechimera9538 exactly. people say he never cared for reedshine he literally died for her

[@secretivesircu]

8 months old videos won't stop me. Ashfur is the BEST VILLAIN. He is an icon imo because he did a fantastic job on manipulating squirrelflight. Also with his new and strange habits. 10/10 villain

[@breadandbutter0456]

My reason why Bluestar caused Swiftpaw’s death: She told him he wasn’t good enough to be a warrior and held him back, but Swiftpaw was willing to show he was worth it by risking his life to dogs while getting angry at her. Edit: WAIT NEVERMIND, TIGERSTAR DID HE RELEASED THE DOGS I JUST REMEMBERED THAT TIGERSTAR IS ALMOST BEHIND ALOT OF THINGS. LET ME LIST THEM: Swiftpaw’s death as Tigerstar released the dogs and almost killed Brightheart, Tigerstar killed Redtail but Ravenpaw was too scared to actually confess to Bluestar, Tigerstar made Bluestar depressed and abused her making her be insane and snapping, Tigerstar caused Scourge as he found him outside the fence and giving him wounds past Scourge was Tiny, Tigerstar even caused his own death, Scourge for revenge split him in half as Tigerstar thought Scourge was weak and he thought he could fight him off with his 9 lives but he loses them all at once with the one he bullied Scourge! (Sorry this comment was long)

[@destineejohnson5315]

I don't think we have a Medicine Cat villan. I think that would be interesting

[@GDRUSHHOUR]

Willowpelt and brightheart are the best side characters. Brightheart we all know why But Willowpelt is WAY too underrated, to refresh your memories, she was in the first arc, and she was Whitestorms mate. She even raised Graykit because he didn’t have a mother! How kind :) I know it’s a pretty hot take, but Willowpelt was so fun to read about!

[@oko5771]

She didn't raised graykit bc he didn't had a mother,she was his mother.(his dad is patchpelt)

[@starlightsoiree]

​@@oko5771that was retconned. Those two cats are related lol

[@MaedayMisfit]

My hot take since i missed the poll: firestar should have picked Brightheart as his deputy, not brambleclaw. He had a personal connection to her as she got hurt during the crazy bluestar era and tigerstars schemes, his nephew is ger mate. Shes a strong she-cat with actual personality and an established story. Imagine a brightheart deputy. How jayfeathers arc might have been different if a disabled cat had been in a position of say. Brightstar. If i could choose anyone to have been a deputy and future leader. It would have been her

[@YellowTheSus]

yesss bramblestar is stinky, brightstar should’ve existed!!!

[@kateluvcatz]

I WOULD LIVE FOR BRIGHTSTAR YES

[@River_drawz]

I feel like Mapleshade barely got any book time, Erin basically said 90 pages is enough to develop a whole ass storyline and then basically throw it away. I think she should have gotten a bigger book, like maybe at least 200 pages. I stared at the next page and yelled "THATS IT?" after I finished, give my girly some more time!

[@chepompey430]

Snowkit should’ve lived if Jayfeather can live so should the little deaf boy. I’ve been especially angry about that.

[@Ivy_and_Rex]

We also haven’t had a fully deaf cat since snowkit in the main arc, like-

[@jenni7932]

Honestly, i would've loved to hear more of bluestar. she only got 4 books and died so soon in the prophecies begin.

[@cats22252]

5:44 I will correct you on this: They've said her _actions_ led to it, so she _caused_ it indirectly instead of directly.

[@rawr1131]

Still, it’s not like she refused to make him a warrior with the intention or knowledge that he’d be driven to go fight a dog.

[@strangechimera9538]

@@rawr1131 sure but even so, she seemingly has no reason why not to make him a warrior especially considering he was 20 moons when he died from the dogs

[@lelasmith-gg5mk]

1:36 i think people think its sad because she was one of the first deaths to be graphically described and people weren't ready for it

[@thatoneconure3521]

On take 15, I was drawn to mothwing because of her stance on star clan like akira said. I only figured out about the moth pool ship like months after

[@Stormflower]

Reasons why I don’t at all care for Jayfeather’s character 1. He is kinda just rude and miserable 2. He is just another disabled cat whose forced to be a medicine cat 3. He had more potential

[@Vivi-Xing]

5:15 I honestly think this could be a really interesting AU. Blue’Star could go to the Dark forest due to not having faith/being against star clan out of paranoia. This could make her distrust star clan even more! (Also she won’t get to see her kits/mate again, so that’s sad.)

[@Bruno_dog_1234]

5:24 I liked mosskit first but Bluestar did not want her to die I’m Prity sure

[@aerolister8093]

I genuinely think Mudclaw was in the right sure he could have been an overly aggressive leader but I like the believe with time and experience he would possibly become one of the better leaders (certainly better then how Onestar turned out)

[@SpiderP-mj1kr]

The fact that I’m only on book six in the first series, and I’m watching this, or the fact that I’m in love with Jayfeather despite not reading any of his books😭

[@urlocalnugget3922]

did anyone else notice that when she was reading the part where someone loved dotc she said moth wings and not moth flights?

[@Parz1val141]

11:00 is the coldest take ever bc it makes no sense. He's a side character now, so thats like saying some random cat is boring.

[@noBraincellsJustFood]

I know this is probaly a common opinion but I think the clans rely to much on starclan like if there is even the slightest problem the clans immediately go to starclan for answers instead of trying to fix things themselves and starclan really doesn't provide much help either. They give such confusing prophecies for something so simple for example in the TNP they sent 6 cats all the way to the ocean just to tell them that they had to leave the forest instead of telling them that before

[@noname-js3bo]

LITERALLY.

[@Dragonerror008]

Thanks Akira for reacting to my comment! Sorry I know it wasn't actually a hot take I just had to write it because it was just about one day after I've finished A Light in the Mist and I was pretty frustrated about the last book of Broken Code. Anyway those comments are really cool. I agree with many of them. Thanks for making this video.

[@confuseddragonedits2294]

I feel like the fandom generally seems to have a bias towards characters who were wronged, whether real or imagined, and only see that they were wronged and nothing else. Even some characters I like and acknowledge were wrong still did some pretty awful things. Examples could be: Mapleshade (who murdered 3 cats and ended up getting her kits killed due to recklessness). Ashfur (who took out petty anger on Squirrelflight for leaving him on cats who had nothing to do with it, those being the three, Firestar, and Bramblestar). Bluestar (who took her trauma and paranoia out on innocent cats and basically stopped doing her god given duties as leader, throwing them onto Fireheart). Thistleclaw (who was affected by the death of his wife, but still canonically made his apprentice attack a child, groomed Spottedleaf and asked her to use a Dark Forest move that could've killed Whitestorm). And Nightcloud (who coddled her son to the point he became a hissy brat and pushed Crowfeather away constantly because she was insecure). If you put their stories into the context of a real life person, I'm 80% sure people would say these are terrible and immature things to do, but slap their favorite character's name on it and suddenly it's aye-okay!

[@strangechimera9538]

Beautiful 👏👏👏👏👏

[@moonpaw_gaming1509]

Yooo early! Edit: There were honestly only a few things I could agree with in this, though it was interesting to see all these opinions! A bit disappointed one wasn’t shown, though I’m sure quite a few were left out.

[@uhoh8489]

I loved the Prophecies Begin, Firestar's Quest and Skyclan's Destiny! They felt like adventures, and it was a nice change of pace and scenery. I felt like I was exploring the unknown and finding solutions alongside Firestar/Leafstar Edit: Dawn of the Clans is my second-favorite series...I didn't know I apparently had so many unpopular opinions XD

[@wygolvillage2637]

My hot take is that Shadowsight having no connection to Starclan was a good writing decision and I liked it, I'm a sucker for narratives where the chosen one has to grapple with normalcy, especially since Shadowsight being "the chosen one" was the avenue through which he was abused. I'd love to see a post-TBC Shadowsight novella or something. Also I like Nightheart LOL

[@galacticfox2319]

Dust pelt is a good father. Read starlight, chapter 14 i think, page 215 " 'Come on, stand up; you're not hurt." Dustpelt bent over and gave him a few fierce licks. Brambleclaw knew that he had been so angry only because he nearly lost the last kit of his litter "Go home to Ferncloud, and let's have no more of this no nonsense." Birchkit nodded, and Dustpelt pressed his muzzle comfortingly against his side before the tiny cat set off back toward the camp entrance. His father watched him until he was out of sight. "We'll have to make a rule," he decided "No kits anywhere near the edge of the cliff. That goes for apprentices too,' " He is reaptedly mentioned to be his father and is willing to suggest a rule for his kits one screw up. He definitely loves them, addintionally he's shown to care more about being with his kits then training Squrrielpaw, and while this isnt a good thing shows that he cares alot about his kits. 2. Scourge is worse than you rember. Sure he killed Tigerstar but thats the only thing he did. He lasted for around two chapters, and less than 60 pages. 3. I love the new prophecy.

[@melon-melon71]

For take 11, Bluestar didn’t have control over swiftpaws or snowfurs death, she never deliberately set anything up that would end their lives. She should’ve known better with Mosskit however. The disowning Starclan thing is plausible, and Akira made a great point about the whole lostface thing tho

[@QuietRage]

Take 37: "Trauma without much substance or development so there isn't much meaning behind it." AMEN. SO, SOO MUCH AMEN. That death had no buildup and I find it quite unsatisfying - after everything Ashfur did, his punishment is to not exist anymore? On the surface its seems harsh, but it also means he can't suffer, rot in hell, or spend the rest of eternity knowing he can never have what he wants. What is with this series and not giving characters the comeuppance they deserve?

[@wadejohnson4468]

Here's my hot take. Warriors should have ended with the first arc. Did we get good characters in later arcs? Yes, but the amount of arcs there are at this point is ridiculous, there are like 7 or 8 at this point, and that's not even counting all the other books. The series is being milked dry. I had to stop reading the series somewhere during the third arc because of how ridiculous the story was getting, and from what I can tell the story has only gone even further down hill. The story genuinely feels more like a fan-fiction than actual canon.

[@ginger4397]

squirrelflight should’ve even had a mate. Both bramblestar and ashfur were abusing in SOME way. Bramble is such a abuser. When she tried to help skyclan he told squiff tell HIM what she is doing/going. Ashfur acted like squirrelflight was a baby and his shell came up in the fire. If she picked him he would be EVEN MORE abusing. I want squirrelflight to be a single mom. Period

[@the_dragonz_lair]

Do you mean shouldn't?

[@PizzA_TimE]

Bramble is not an abuser, he’s just a little dumb

[@jujuoof174]

I heard a lot of new and interesting opinions today! Helps getting a better view on things and getting out of the popular opinion sort of things which can get pretty suffocating sometimes tbh. Rad video as always!

[@M00n_LVJY_]

8:14 THIS SECTION. so lemme tell the story real quick- was watching this vid and came to this section. I was intrigued and searched up his wiki page for the 800th time. I saw he was in SkyClan once, so I was like "oh really? what book was that in?" I search it up, find out it's SkyClan and the Stranger, click on a link, and BAM! 5 computer viruses. Turn off my computer like 3 times, call my friends, and then my phone dies AT THE MOST CONVENIENT TIME POSSIBLE. it's okay i got it fixed but lost my 121 bookmarks

[@BPJD2004]

The Prophecies Begin arc is a good starting point for the series, the only bad part of it was Forest of Secrets and a few unnecessary parts of Rising Storm.

[@ScorpSteed]

Oh crap, I’m in this one! I’ll admit, I was trying to ruffle some feathers with that one 😂

[@rockyc6480]

Bro the moment I read ur comment, your take showed up in the vid 😂

[@fuzeblitz6326]

Hi Akira, is there any way you can cover the new Copyright laws due to what happened with Into the Wild by Little Dragon Studios. I've heard this basically states no one is allowed to make a fan series of warriors anymore Based off the books. I'm curious if you could do research into this and make a video out of it if it wouldn't hurt the audience too much

[@seeagulll]

Squirrelflight and Bramble are both toxic. I don't believe either are abusive, toxic is a better word to describe them. They should NOT be together but blaming one w/o blaming the other is... icky. As sometimes Squilf is the bad one and vice versa. CrookedStars promise, Tallstars revenge are the best super editions (and maybe Yellowfangs Secret. I need to reread it.) Tallstars revenge has such a well plot and such, and shows how much Tallstars grown as a person. Crookedstars promise: the same as tallstar. It shows how he grows with his disability. Mapleshade is a good villain, but her novella is HORRIBLY written. The she-cats are terribly written. I think most can agree. Dawn of the Clans is probably One of the BEST arcs. Gives more lore! The Sisters deserve a arc abt themselves. Leafpool isn't that good of a character.. I see a lot of people treat her like she's an amazing mother. She is not. Mothwing isn't that good either. How she treated ShadowSight? Ew. But otherwise she's okay! Crowfeather is a bad father, but he's somewhat okay. Not as bad as people make him. Frecklewish did NOT deserve the darkforest. Darktail is a good villain. He deserves to be recognized more imo. Sol is a mixed issue. He's both a good and a bad character. He isn't really that good of a villain. Jayfeather isn't good. He's js kinda annoying later into the series, yes he was good at first but now his attitudes gotten old. The Erin's NEED to start killing off the old characters (squilf, bramble, etc.) Squirrelflight would NOT be a good leader... also, I simply don't want a Firestar blood-haver to be leader.

[@lightningstormrules]

I don't like how the Erins did Jayfeather. I feel like his personality just flipped and for that he isn't one of my favorites, because he is now just grumpy and rude. I think Jayfeather deserves more than one main personality trait.

[@thesaltyeevee1459]

6:44 To be perfectly honest I haven’t seen anyone who loves Mothwing wanting Mothwing to become leader of riverclan. I think the most common take from Mothwing fans is that making her leader and taking her nine lives would be borderline character assassination at worst or shoving her into a role she desperately does not want and won’t be happy in at best. We had a whole book about how she was meant to be a medicine cat and how she shouldn’t have to give up her atheism to serve clan. It also spits on the message of understanding and coexisting with different beliefs systems her character had going for her. Mothwing being accepted for who she is despite not sharing the beliefs of those around her is something that makes a lot of people who don’t share the religion of those around them feel seen… and it’s sort of upsetting to me that they might take this way for fan service despite the text saying Mothwing doesn’t even like being leader when she had the opportunity.

[@mstudios33]

Bluestar was the worst mother in the whole first arc, she cared more about keeping her role and respect than actually caring for her kits, whom she denied ownership of until she was practically trapped into a corner. Like what the heck. She was a good leader, but she was the worst mother in the whole first arc and you can’t prove me otherwise. Also Oakheart didn’t deserve to die. I would love it if Fireheart learned about Bluestar’s kits through him. I would have loved to see Oakstar having to be at war with Bluestar, and then the reaction when she drowned.

[@rawr1131]

If you read her super edition, that’s not actually the case. Bluestar struggled over this decision and she only gave up her kits to fulfill a prophecy. She was in a situation where she had to give them up so she could become Deputy over Thistleclaw (an evil cat who would have destroyed the clan).

[@mstudios33]

@@rawr1131 well at least the first arc makes her sound HORRIBLE

[@rawr1131]

@@mstudios33 Understandable, I’m just saying that it was actually a lot more complicated than that. She cared deeply for her kits and had planned on raising them.

[@mstudios33]

@@rawr1131 ok Ty :)

[@Potatoes2345]

Hot-Take (or whatever) : We need a story of an Non-popular cat (such as LongTail) ,main characters are to over credited ,background characters need more credit , Squirrelflight is to over credited ,AshFur is a stereotype to everybody , All background characters usually have to depressing/stressful life’s And out of all Your mom

[@JerseyAnimations1]

Ayy!!! I got in!! It's been a while since I read Power Of Three so I couldn't remember if alot of people liked him. I personally felt that people would relate to a manipulative villian due to the fact that you can actually see those type of people in real life. And manipulative people can exist as normal people on the surface until you know them. Unlike with other villians in the Warrior Cats books, most of them started with more physiological tricks and words before the violence. Just like people in real life. Jesus I just created an essay on why I said my opinion lol.

[@yunakang-fe1qd]

Honestly i hate the fact that Redtail had 0 time to develope as a character

[@choco5]

He does as much in the books as he does character development

[@bgmarshall]

2:00 nothing in the books come within miles and miles as being as sad as storms death, grey wings death, or tallstar leaving jake as sad for me storms probably just because that was my first warriors book though

[@LenaWinn-w5s]

8:25 oh, there’s someone who doesn’t like Jayfeather as a character? **grabs axe** where do they live? 10:48 AHHHHH

[@Gaaby_Yay]

I think people are overhating bluestar, I mean Blackstar also disowned STARCLAN? And I don't see anyone hating him for that!

[@fireflamespaws]

dawn of the clans is actually my fav arc(why? idk i just like it. especially moth flights vision. and riverstar’s home.) im not joking

[@jennyma4596]

Whats wrong with Skyclan's destiny and Firestar's quest? For starters, lots of interesting things such as the rat king and rebuilding Skyclan in Firestar's quest, and in Skyclan's Destiny the cats of sky clan fight so many rats! and there are strangers coming into the clan as well. You call that boring?!

[@moonbased7796]

2:39 I’m kinda mixed here. I personally enjoyed Firestar and I don’t think he is a bad leader (he’s a really good leader) but honestly there were a few things I didn’t like about him (which honestly I consider those more of nicpics tbh) so honestly I don’t necessarily hate Firestar but there are definitely some things I didn’t like about him.

[@star-whisper1096]

My not so common opinion is: I don't like jayfeather, THERE I SAID IT I like his design, but he’s rude And snappy and I just think he’s plain overrated, BUT I respect your opinion if you like him And another: I don't like CROWFEATHER, He’s rube, snappy, terrible to nightcloud, Doesn’t pay attention to breezepelt, and I Just don't like him, I would pick jayfeather over him any day. I liked him better as an apprentice when he love feathertail after that it went down hill for me

[@HuntingBear82]

I have two takes. 1. I don't like the super editions and novella's. They end up being mostly insignificant to the main plot, and just become problematic, like Spottedleafs Heart. The only use is extra reading when your caught up or can't find the next book in the main arcs. 2. As much as I love the series, it needs to end soon. Everything is repetitive at this point. Cross-clan relationships, cat teens feeling unwelcome and hated, drama between the leaders over the stupidest things, and drama with Bramblestar. (Can't we just kill him and move on with our lives?) I feel like everything from the first 3-4 arcs is being reused. The only original idea that I can remember is the whole ghost, Ashfur, dark forest thing. And that ended up incredibly inconsistent. I think the writers need to either get new ideas, or END THE SERIES.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Crookedstar's promise has grown to be one of my favorites if not my number 1 favorite book in warrior cats, so I could not disagree more lol.

[@HuntingBear82]

@@legrandliseurtri7495 welp, it's a hot take for a reason