Bring Me the Horizon - Post Human: NeX GEn ALBUM REVIEW

[@matthewjagos9328]

As long as it’s not a light 3, this should be a good video

[@blizzmuzic]

ive got some bad news man…

[@santtu2788]

You might wanna sit down for this one...

[@Dan-ji4db]

Nobody tell him

[@alextihor1190]

made me chuckle when i saw the score and remembered this comment

[@mmf-rules]

With that being said, that number is too high for what the album really Is

[@BradTasteInMusicOfficial]

no no no put it back. put the vid back in the vault

[@thetragedyofcommons]

glad you enjoyed it while you could

[@YourFriendlyNeighborhoodTaxCol]

Average Brad w

[@бездарь-щ4д]

Damn😭

[@overcompensated]

it’s time to change your opinion

[@HAL9000-fr4dc]

There is no red flannel in Ba Sing Se

[@HamsterRecon]

If Oli screamed "My scars are pink, but my booty hole brown" you would have given this an 8/10.

[@johndavidpettry2980]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@jacobadams7212]

Started to regret that I clicked on this video until I saw this

[@TeeAtche]

well that’s disappointing. i’m outside your house.

[@Milo-it1tf]

Note to self, Anthony isn’t that good of a music critic

[@Remedy462]

​@@Milo-it1tf We all just watch him for that ass, just admit it.

[@Learke]

*extremely loud incorrect buzzer*

[@charlieblegh]

why did you cut the left side of an 8

[@Pickoffarwim]

This is actually clever 😂

[@BillyDHughesDrums]

Because it's a "half-baked" opinion, lol

[@derekrose3328]

FACTS 🤝

[@0x20pirate]

@@BillyDHughesDrums lot of fans of focus-group tested music are upset in here

[@BillyDHughesDrums]

@0x20pirate my focus group is better than yours lol I'd rather make songs alot of people like wrather than analytically targeting Melon stans

[@latiasite]

Brad bouta tear his posters of you off his wall again after this

[@matheusc.7614]

brad going "THIS WILL BE THE LAST PACKAGE I EVER SEND YOUR ASS" mode

[@thecluckster3908]

Gonna be like the kid from Incredibles

[@klokan2894]

@Jiiggy-dn8fd no u

[@ThatYellowPokemon]

whos brad

[@erikdaniels0n]

@@angel_of_rustNO 😂😂

[@camilogomez1216]

Fuck, I already had an opinion

[@hello_hello569]

Melon better hurry up on these reviews, happened to me too

[@phothewin6019]

Don't worry, you can still change it to a 3/10

[@Lu-db1uf]

So? Keep your opinion then, coward.

[@mmf-rules]

@@phothewin6019 There's always time to change it to -1/10

[@yylfordt6125]

@@mmf-rules opps 😂 found the trash again

[@joshdimichele18]

What's crazy is I feel like he gave every single that came a positive review and the singles make up more than 50% of the album

[@kazu9445]

Is this a serious review and he’s actually that shallow or is this a bit satire?? I cant tell because a LOT of people seem to disagree with him - me included - especially when he says a factually wrong statement like “the lyrics have no depth”

[@elliemay8532]

@@kazu9445 “factually”? He has his opinion, you have yours…. That’s it.

[@kazu9445]

@@elliemay8532 yeah that’s fair dude but he didn’t give any critical analysis at all. I don’t care if he didn’t like it, his reasons just seemed vague and shallow - (such as, yes, factually it was wrong to say the lyrics had no depth. They do, that’s not a matter of opinion, that’s a fact. He just didn’t have the patience to read or watch an interview with the band).

[@Home-u6g]

​@@kazu9445lyrical depth is indeed still an opinion, nothing factual about it

[@ltbq]

@@kazu9445 ?????it is not a fact?????? he also does analyse them, specifically how oli's lyrics constantly wallowing in self-hatred has gotten stale and comes off as juvenile and low-effort. whether you agree or not that is objectively critically analysing the lyrical themes of the album.

[@agc2757]

Saying anything from Bring Me The Horizon is meant to "Appeal to Christian youth ministers" is one of the Fantano takes of all time.

[@nestwr]

It is 100% correct if you know anything about the era of metalcore the band is from

[@MadandMajorGaming0]

@@nestwrand 0% correct if you’ve paid attention to any of the lyrical content since at least Sempiternal

[@dyykaacovers]

Im picking up what you're putting down ​@nestwr

[@emie1170]

@@nestwrwhat

[@coolbugfacts1234]

​@@nestwrit was literally like 2 months ago that a ton of people got mad at them for a concert promo graphic that said "If Jesus Christ returns, well just kill that fucker 2X"

[@warbraingaming4637]

Too late Melon, I already formed my own opinion

[@CrudeBeach]

Look at you go! Next stop: critical thinking!

[@crickbed86]

how do i see this every time it wasnt even funny the first time

[@Zamiakulkas]

Good one 😂

[@the.sundew]

A joke​@@CrudeBeach

[@Remedy462]

You obey your Nerd Emperor when you are spoken to Knave!

[@SteamyNachos77]

You would’ve given it an 8 if the album cover didn’t have hair

[@benmottram3663]

😂

[@raythepretentiousnerd]

Everybody, it’s a red flannel. Prepare for wartime

[@TotoOrlanski]

I think you’re missing the point that the intention was never to continue with the sound of survival horror… since they’ve started working on it Oli said that this was an album that was going to be a tribute to emo bands from the 2000s, the third chapter an edm album (like music to listen to) and the final chapter a deathcore album (like their early work). That’s the point of the post human series, making each one of them with a different sound. It’s not cause they can’t make more songs like AmEN! In fact I think that would be the easy way to go for them. Instead they’re at a point where they’re just doing whatever they want.

[@CrudeBeach]

🥱

[@bellabliss1860]

@@CrudeBeach you're so cool, you know, engaging in antagonistic apathy rather than actually challenging anything that people argue.

[@Slime-Man-Extreme]

I mean, even if he knew all of that he would have still given the album the same score. The music just kinda sucks :/

[@TotoOrlanski]

@@Slime-Man-Extreme i completely disagree but music is subjective 🤷🏼

[@TECfan1]

​@@Slime-Man-Extreme Nah fam.

[@perfectparadox7389]

Bro literally described exactly what makes dig it special and creepy, and let it flew right over his head. Probably one of melons worst blunders yet…

[@kidcaldwell]

thought this exact thing 😭

[@JimReviewer]

EXACTLY

[@yannmsnr]

I always hate it when fantano praises Survival Horror, always mentioning Mick Gordon like his involvement helped shape the record, when in reality, he only has credits on Parasite Eve. If that record sounds good, it's thanks to both Jordan and Oli, Mick was just a guest on a song (love him tho).

[@KINGJADEX]

While I agree with your general sentiment, Mick Gordon has credits on every Survival Horror song except Teardrops, 1x1 and Ludens.

[@d00ro779oi]

@@KINGJADEXstart of dear diary sounds straight outta doom

[@luis9997865]

Anthony really has a big problem with Deftones lol

[@nrivera0717]

As soon as I saw limousine on least favorite I said melon just hate deftones

[@bellabliss1860]

@@nrivera0717 tbf limousine is also my least favorite because i feel like it's a bit too derivative of deftones. not because i hate deftones though, i just think the band is more creative than that. he's still completely wrong about this album though.

[@emie1170]

funny thing is he presents deftones as a definitive example but has a history of hating on deftones?

[@slightexag]

the deftones singer can't hit a note to save his life. even more pitchy live.

[@nrivera0717]

@@slightexag chino has more talent in his left nipple than your whole blood line js

[@jacobrevenge9978]

Love how he likes all the singles when they first released and now he hates them ???

[@CrudeBeach]

I’m not sure they were built to last

[@bluefinretro2223]

Fantano does that all the time lol

[@DaveExclamationMarkYognaught]

personally thought all of them were better in album context ​@@CrudeBeach

[@Sevro720]

What matters now is the context of the whole album. Also, opinions change! His may have changed

[@derekrose3328]

@@Sevro720That’s completely fair.

[@grimoxxy]

why was a quarter of the video a PH:SH review

[@Greg77001]

You guys don't understand. The red flannel is to show his appreciation for the Kool-Aid song.

[@0_Cardboard_0]

Friendship ended with Fantano Brad is my new homie

[@FilletDev]

I dont take brad either, he gave Clancy a 3

[@Billiamwoods]

Brad is a worse reviewer which is why he liked this 🥱

[@tsivilsඞ]

@@FilletDev I agree with you that clancy at 3 is too low, but i agree with brad in the fact that it wasn't that good

[@bellabliss1860]

@@Billiamwoods fantano is old and out of touch just like most of the people who still take any of his opinions about metal seriously

[@Billiamwoods]

@@bellabliss1860 Still would take him more seriously than Brad who knows jack about metal

[@dominicbull3827]

Looking forward to seeing the actual review tomorrow

[@mrseaweed88]

Yeah, he barely analysed the songs at all. Just a comparison to other albums at this point

[@kenswords]

Guess you could say... he didn't "DIg It"

[@billhicks8]

I'm from the future. It's a 3.

[@KARTMAN-dg3zq]

This review is really a 2 min speech about previous record and mentioning 2 songs from the album. GG melon

[@KINGJADEX]

I know, right!? I feel like he didn’t even talk about the songs.

[@David-yk5tq]

That's not true. He went into depth on why he doesn't like the music on here. I don't think he has to go SONG FOR SONG to tell us why he doesn't like an album

[@the.sundew]

​@@David-yk5tq Nah usually he goes song for song on most albums

[@bonkbonkbonkbonkbonkbonk]

@@David-yk5tqnah im sorry but he does that for a lot of albums, and this being an album with a lot of lore it’s a bit weird to mainly cover 2 songs, his best and worst songs in the description also both just have 1

[@David-yk5tq]

@@the.sundew "most" being the key word here. In some cases he doesn't, especially in albums he doesn't really like, such as this one. I know he's a music critic, but if he doesn't care about this type of music, why go over it exactly the same way he does for things he's passionate about?

[@fakelxve6167]

I really don't understand Fantano's contradiction, when he reviewed strangers, lost and darkside he said that they weren't bad songs, that he thought they were decent, that he preferred bmth to do hyperpop, radio rock, before another band because they do it well, and when he reacted to them on stream he acted like they were the worst thing he has ever heard, when before he said they were decent, the same with his reaction with kool-aid he said it was one of the best on the record, and he didn't mention anything about it in the review, also That 3 was deserved for amo, but not for next gen or for sempiternal who gave it the same rating

[@l1p0v]

L take, Amo is actually experimental and diverse, on par with music to listen to. I'm surprised Anthony viewers are defending that trendy emo tiktok junk with one of the most uninspired hooks and dumbed down lyrics Oli has ever written.

[@cameronbrown8674]

Fantano is a walking contradiction. I’m surprised people still take him seriously.

[@salvatration3704]

​@@l1p0vbffr lmao all BMTH is trendy tiktok shit, pretending otherwise is cope for your parents not taking it seriously

[@7kk77k]

y'all know this is just his opinion, right?

[@diegovaldes1408]

He just changed his opinion, how is that a contradiction?

[@matthewduncan572]

Dig It sounds staticky? Almost as if that's the point as it's a pre recorded tape by the main character as they leave at the end of the story

[@WilliamRLB09]

5:47 Appeal to christian youth ministers... Bring Me The Horizon?? As in the guys who wrote The House of Wolves 😭????

[@WilliamRLB09]

As in "And when you die, the only kingdom you'll see is two foot wide and six foot deep"??????

[@kenswords]

"And if Jesus Christ returns Well Just kill the f***er twice" is literally a lyric in one of the songs, did he even listen to the album?

[@bellabliss1860]

@@kenswords they literally got hounded by christian twitter for that lyrical promotion lmao fantano further demonstrating how clueless he actually is

[@lukeworldwalker]

Yeah lyrics like “No one's gonna save you. Fuck your faith. There's no hope for us We speak in tongues, blacker than the sun No death can touch the crooked young”

[@kenswords]

@@bellabliss1860 I know! I'm Catholic, but I'm also not expecting metal bands to just be like "I *love* Jesus!" That'd be delusional lol

[@Purplepentapus_]

Melon: this album looks to the past too much when its supposed to be a vision of the future The actual band: this album is an homage to classic 2000s emo and scene music

[@stonedwall]

title of the album is stupid asf then if that’s the case.

[@tuomaslouhisalo286]

Why the hell is it called "Next Gen" then💀?

[@Bornagainvillain]

@@tuomaslouhisalo286because that’s what they wanted to call it nerd.

[@Purplepentapus_]

@@stonedwall because there's lore. The sound is a throwback, the concept is futuristic

[@bellabliss1860]

@@Purplepentapus_ they might know that if fantano actually bothered to analyze it rather than try to equate it to music for christian youth ministers (?!?!)

[@SpareMango]

This is by far the funniest outcome possible

[@Tyler12905]

All that lore just for a 3 is so funny. They even made a whole ass map too

[@Billiamwoods]

​@@Tyler12905Lore this lore that. I miss the good old days when bands would just sing about holding a girl's hand or doing cocaine.

[@K1MDRACUL4]

​@@Tyler12905 well they made the album and the story for the fans to enjoy, not fantano lol. they just do whatever they want regardless of critic review, i thought that it was already obvious at this point

[@joblessbumnomoney]

@@Billiamwoods alright unc 💀

[@klippo1235]

@@Tyler12905 i mean its not as if fantanos review is objective, lmao

[@unsafe9148]

BMTH “trying to survive the power vacuum that’s been left by rock’s fall from grace commercially” and comparing them to 80s hair metal bands struggling in the 90s is such a ridiculously bad, reductionist and uninformed take. They are like one of the biggest rock bands on the planet with a massive devoted fanbase. And they are literally making whatever they feel like because of that enourmous success. It’s completely ok to not like this but trying to paint them as these out of touch losers trying to stay relevant by the skin of their teeth is just nuts lol.

[@unsafe9148]

Also, you repeatedly complaing about it not being like the first one is such a lazy way of criticising, it’s clearly doing a completely different thing. That’s the whole concept behind the series.

[@toxicxhazard]

Fantano has evolved to his final form, as many of the youtuber circle do; grifter. To be honest, he never liked this genre or anything close to it anyway, he's always been a part of the reddit tier circle of musical taste

[@CarlosChSa]

😂

[@fergusmacleod9540]

he's not wrong though. this album is a shadow of post human. its not a bad album by any means. it just simply is not as good as post human and that why everyone is harshly critical about this album. (apart from die hard fans that will eat anything up from them) it is a completely fair way of criticism to say that its not as good as there last work because it simply isn't and what else is he going to compare it too? this album feels rushed and a bit all over the place. which is fair because they had a member leave half way. its been postponed then rushed out for a reason. in all fairness anthony was very very harsh in this and I don't think the album was as bad as he made out. but at the end of the day its fair. and just to explain. he wasn't comparing them to those bands. he was simply saying that they have nothing to build from on mainstream rock since the late 90s. because rock and metal have turned to be such small genres of music in the past 2 decades

[@jeux2322]

@@fergusmacleod9540you’re stating objective truth which is hilarious cause this album has gotten good ratings all over the board. It may not be as well received as phsh but this album had done very well and isn’t only getting praise from “die hard fans”

[@JulianMachin-le7pb]

“I wanted this album to be the same as the last one WAAAAA” this is how we know he’s a real bring me fan lmao

[@David-yk5tq]

He simply doesn't like the album, get over it bro

[@lars6261]

​@David-yk5tq you realise he uploads this to youtube right? With comments on? Can we not discuss something we are passionate about or disagree with?

[@David-yk5tq]

@@lars6261 you realise calling someone a crybaby over not liking an album, is not constructive criticism and deserves to be called petty behaviour, right?

[@lars6261]

@David-yk5tq then say that in the first place. I thought you were talking about people disagreeing with fantano in the first place, but yeah "crybaby" isn't the most constructive i agree.

[@David-yk5tq]

@@lars6261 I though it was already implied what I meant, considering the comment I was replying to, but yeah. Generally, I don't think resorting to insults or attacks over a different opinion is a good thing. But people can get really mad at fantano just for a review

[@weavophile1971]

This is like your version of Brad's Clancy review

[@SytianIvanov]

The Brad vs Fantano scores in Clancy and this album are being the funniest thing I've seen in a while

[@richardjansen9748]

You would’ve given this album an 8 if it was called Hood Hottest Post Human: Next Gen

[@YourFriendlyNeighborhoodTaxCol]

Oh no these comments are coming 😭💀

[@Vemberwost]

hahaha 😂

[@David-yk5tq]

This one made me laugh. Ik this format is a bit overused but I really love the idea of a "Hood Hottest Post-Human"

[@hello_hello569]

Should've been Post Hottie: NeX PriNCesS

[@Devananta-Rafiq]

😂😂😂

[@em2002]

I fully disagree with your opinion. This record is full of some of the best alternative rock (metal, punk, etc.) songs made in the last decade or so. Youtopia, Top 10 statues that cried blood, N/a, Lost, Strangers, to name a few. To me these songs don’t sound dated, they sound fresh with a certain nostalgia of alternative rock/metal/punk of the early 2000s in them. In the end, music is all about enjoyment, and I truly enjoy most of the songs on the record, especially those I named before. People have different tastes, but I still can not see Anthony’s criticism toward this record here valid. Did we listen to the same album? I mean man, what the hell are you talking about? This record slaps. And it slaps way harder than survival horror ever did.

[@Billyjoelt]

Amen! Fontano just tries to be divisive, esp about good albums.

[@noname-eu4jx]

he didn't even talk about any of the actual songs lol did he even listen to Kool-Aid(or any other song from the album)? i was actually looking forward to this review,seeing he gave survival horror a good score. guess the only reason to come back to his reviews is for the drama.

[@davematthews8853]

@@noname-eu4jxHe listened to Kool-Aid on the reaction stream and actually liked it a lot. Many of the songs that he chose not to speak about (especially Kool Aid and Bullet) are much harder to frame as “stuck in the past,” hence why he didn’t talk about them. He likely cherry picked the songs that fit his argument the best - it’s a valid rhetorical strategy but doesn’t really make for a great review.

[@noname-eu4jx]

@@davematthews8853 The ''stuck in the past'' argument maybe works if the person who watches the review didn't listen to the album first. AmEN is one of the best examples i can think of songs that makes Fantano's argument fall flat. I know he mentioned the song,but at this point i don't see this man as an actual music critic,just an online persona. I only came to this review to see him praise the album but instead got a MBDTF review.

[@davematthews8853]

@@noname-eu4jx I feel like he does genuinely try to write decent reviews and give each album its due diligence, but sometimes misses the mark entirely, as is the case here. Sometimes I do also get the sneaking suspicion that he exaggerates his feelings for clout; my guess here is that he personally didn’t care for the artistic direction of the album but couldn’t really come up with any logical critiques/arguments against it, so he just kinda reached with his observations to make it sound like a more objective and informed review, as opposed to just saying “it’s not for me” which is probably how he actually felt. It’s not fair to the album imo. Also, in Folding Ideas essay on Doug Walker’s The Wall, he uses the phrase “performative cruelty” to describe Doug’s exaggerated, ill-informed, bad-faith commentary on the music - I do not think Anthony’s review fits any of those descriptors, but I do think it’s within the realm of a disingenuous take. Maybe “performative negativity” is a better descriptor for here. Unrelated, but I think Anthony’s videos would be better if he presented more counter arguments against his takes and then explained them away using evidence he found while listening. It’d make his takes, however hot they are, feel way more legit.

[@你媽雞槌]

average music critic Anthony vs average music enjoyer Brad

[@bofCOOLIT]

HACKTHONY FRAUDTANO SWEPT BY GOATTASTEINMUSIC 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@PGLangdanielvogelbach]

Brad will NOT be happy about this one Melon

[@BigSleepy985]

I hope to god there isn’t a comment that said “If they named the album ‘Pimp Human: Next Butterfly’ you would give it a 10”

[@birberking6999]

You just made one

[@kenswords]

If they named the album "OK HumAn: neXt ComPUter," he would have given it a 10

[@mattiatosi8350]

I have not seen it, but I've seen a "if it was called *hood hottest princess joke* you would've given it a 8" (so funny......)

[@antonioskollias6584]

If they named the album Beautiful Dark Human: Next Twisted Fantasy, it would've gotten a 0

[@desolatemonarch]

😂😂😂

[@pretty_in_casts]

I think I have the same outrage as when Melon gave Deftones’ Ohms the same score.

[@l1p0v]

Ohms is WAY better than this record tho.

[@chadkennard6442]

Ohms is fantastic

[@thomast.4966]

​@@l1p0v if it's better, then why Fantano also gave it a 3?

[@l1p0v]

@@thomast.4966 mofo can't stand modern Deftones for some reason. I think Ohms was a proper return to good form and PH: Nex Gen is almost nothing but lazy arena rock hooks and pandering to emo tiktok crowd. Also it seems like you're forgetting that this channel's scoring system is mostly showing how much Anthony is enjoying music. Even if the music is of the highest quality, Anthony can give it a low score because he wasn't in the mood at the time or it's just not in his taste.

[@thomast.4966]

@@l1p0v that's because he's not good at criticism and scoring art is pointless. That's why his reviews seem all over the place and often contradictory. I mean, sure, it's "just his opinion", but at the same time he goes to such lengths to cover so much music that it can't actually be just his opinion for him, because it seems he actually takes himself serious and believes he's doing something here. In a way I do agree it's just his opinion in the sense that how he articulates his ideas isn't much better than random drunken people at the bar giving their opinions about whatever. I don't want to sound like I'm being too hard on the guy though. I really don't expect him or most people to critique art in a proper way. That requires a certain level of education, to be honest, that most people either don't have access to or aren't interested in. With that said, I enjoy both albums and was just being ironic in my previous comment.

[@FinR1256]

you barely talked about the actual songs in the album though? waxing poetic about the state of rock is all very good and well but you mentioned 3 songs on a 17 track album

[@a.w_.]

Welcome to theneedledrop lmao, these reviews are rarely ever about the music, more so on what kind of cultural conversation he wants to have around the artists

[@MyoticTesseract]

cool review but it was kinda weird when you kept saying "i missed the point and i don't care" repeatedly for 8 minutes

[@spaceashes]

you trippin wit this one

[@Dawn95284]

Nah

[@PoolNoodle_Reborn]

If u and legoshi were there i'm sure it would have been an 8

[@spaceashes]

@@PoolNoodle_Reborn everyone needs a legoshi in their ear

[@Twittchyy]

He’s really not, ive been a longtime fan of bmth and loved survival horror. This album is a complete miss and I have zero desire to relisten

[@jeux2322]

@@Twittchyynex gen is great. I wasn’t too crazy about it but relistening several times made it even better

[@legoshi5925]

I think you accidentally typed the score backwards, it’s actually a 10/3 in all seriousness though its kinda confusing how you fundamentally misunderstand the character development themes of healing and discovering self acceptance after trauma in the lyrics and misconstrue it as "wallowing in self-loathing" and having "no real arc" there's also the fact that the 2000s emo archetypes the album plays into are an attempt to critique the blind naive futurism other less inventive bands in their scene follow, rather than just look to the future without substance

[@acrytala]

my brother in christ that is still a light 3 😭

[@David-yk5tq]

I absolutely. Completely. Have no idea what you're trying to say in the third paragraph. Like, 0 idea of what you were trying to say there

[@legoshi5925]

@@David-yk5tq a lot of other lesser bands in their scene do all this futuristic shit in their music and aesthetics for no reason other than “oooh cool pretty visuals” and it lacks substance, BMTH are doing it but in a way that cautiously looks at the pros and cons of all this futurism shit (both in terms of fictional cyberpunk media type stuff and also in a literal sense of trying hard to sound ahead of the time without actually understanding what makes something forward thinking) and weighs that against the concept of being over reliant on nostalgia in an equally hollow way, that’s what point I was making

[@Twittchyy]

It’s concerning that you can’t tell this album is a major step down from their previous work.

[@legoshi5925]

@@Twittchyy it's concerning i have a different opinion about something that is inherently subjective (music)? how exactly lol I think this is a huge improvement from their already-excellent previous release

[@tydpool]

So when FLO sounds like Destiny's Child it's a cool homage and they're the best thing to happen to RnB, but when this band plays into styles from 20 years ago it's cringe? I understand not being able to gel with this album and its aesthetic choices, but the songwriting and performances at their core are solid. Every song is an earworm. I've been missing this sort of catchy, melodic style in mainstream rock. The blend of electronic elements with metalcore was always annoying to me, but with 2024 production and sound design, it honestly isn't sounding bad anymore. This is what Falling in Reverse wished they sounded like.

[@CrunchyElia]

This is so fucking true

[@BaciuMarian-r8o]

He's always had this frankly braindead double standard when it comes to most rock and metal and I don't get it. Like a lot of pop and rap he covers isnt doing anything that new but its fun and catchy. And when it does something new it gets recognition. But when linkin park switch sounds album to album its tacky or chasing trends. If deftones doesnt change their sound theyre stuck in the past. If cannibal corpse does the same album 30 years later it gets a pass because ??????? Judging from the review itself im not entirely convinced he actually listened to it beyond that livestream, considering how little he talks about this album and how almost half the review is about ph:sh.

[@shafertasso]

AMEN

[@fa2lemuelm2]

I'm actually surprised not because of the low score itself, but because this album is sort of similar to how Clancy was meant to be an homage and a complementary concept album. It was clear he's not fully deep into the lore, but he gave decent attempts to open up his perspective for Clancy despite not being personally a fan for the sound and direction for a lot of its songs. I honestly think it's a weird case of being nitpicky in the presentation just because it's BMTH. He's also weird sometimes with Everything Everything like this.

[@MattDeezly]

He hated BMTH coming into this- he had no intention of researching or giving it a fair shake

[@That5uy]

Never in a million years would i guess nex gen gets a three and Clancy gets a 6

[@Kalitayy]

Fantano isn't Legoshi-pilled

[@legoshi5925]

HE DOESNT SEE THE VISION

[@tsivilsඞ]

Real

[@erikdaniels0n]

Legoshi, more like LeGOATshi

[@scizor285]

HES NOT A REAL KILLAZ

[@Aruari4n]

Take the day off and do a redux tomorrow

[@billhicks8]

might go down to a 2 then watch out

[@Underground56100]

It’s the Ohms review all over again

[@vslngls]

STOP

[@CruciaLou]

Go cry about it.

[@emie1170]

i’m still scarred from the fear inoculum review

[@KINGJADEX]

@@emie1170Me too, man…

[@Arinisonfire]

​@@emie1170 tbf, Fear Inoculum WAS pretty far below average for Tool

[@goner.9989]

The post human series although is meant to be a continuation, the sounds were initially announced to be different. Survival horror was nu-metal and metalcore, this one is emo and pop punk mainly. Disregarding the aspect of the execution as it is subjective, simply complaining that the sound is different from what worked is missing the mark entirely.

[@Kevcaster626]

Only reason fantanos hating cuz he never had scene hair so he’ll never understand

[@big_man_on_the_scene]

look up anthony fantano mohawk, you will be enthralled.

[@oktimeforplanl]

Melon has never liked BMTH

[@Nachturnal]

i dont understand why he didn’t like this one but gave PH: Survival Horror a 8

[@neolbioldey]

​@@NachturnalMelon doesn't like when BMTH innovate. He just likes when they stick to the basics, which they do on Survival Horror

[@nickordich7469]

Melon doesn't like anything in the Core genre bubble

[@emie1170]

Melon loves it when bmth behave like mindless and angry 40 year olds who hate the world and have to pay taxes

[@dolcik271]

@@neolbioldey wouldn't say amo and survival horror are 'basics'

[@hubson1443]

I'm a Sidemen fan. KSI's Dissimulation received a strong 4 from Fantano. Now, there is simply no way in world you can convince me Nex Gen is worse lmao bro completely missed the point of the album

[@RoboAddy]

I already formed my own opinion on this one. This is the first time since Suicide Season that I've been obsessed with this band. The massive expanded universe and ARG to uncover are just the cherry on top.

[@questionquestion1]

There's no way you said the record sounds "old", you have to be kidding, I'm genuinely wondering what you listened to bc yes there's homages, but they're mixed in with elements and influences that you've never quite heard before in rock music like this, the range in this record is massive, and the hyperpop vibes are huge as well, tracks like RIP, 10STCB, Dig It, Kool Aid, AmEn, Die4u, Lost etc are such great examples of boundary pushing. How tf do you listen to these tracks and think they sound old? Dude has lost the plot lol. Didn't even talk about any of the songs.

[@questionquestion1]

P.S - Even Limousine, a very blatant Deftones sounding cut like you talked about, still has a lot of newer elements and influences mixed that actually make it sound really fresh and modern, including that sick switch up at the end. Why not try to focus on those things instead of completely writing everything off the minute something doesn't cater to your preconceived expectations? BMTH have always been pretty clear that the post-human series of records are all wildly different from each other.

[@rapmetaldemon09]

What we're seeing (in my eyes) is the alt rock from the late 90s and early 00s (i.e. Breaking Benjamin, Nickelback, Three days grace etc.) And the mid to late 00s metalcore sounds have been assimilated into the overall rock zeitgeist and become one. Back then we could have an alt rock song that would incorporate a breakdown-like bridge (think one step closer Linkin Park and Breaking Benjamin's diary of Jane), and on the other side we had metalcore that would sometimes find itself sounding a little closer to those alt rock sounds. At the time I saw it as metalcore bands selling out by trying to play more "octane friendly" radio rock, but now I see that the gaps between the two have been filled in and now it is one encompassing sound that can go one way or the other. These genres also just so happen to really mix well with almost all other relevant genres from rnb, to punk, to electronic, to even hip-hop and country. I think it's the entire reason we even have this current wave of rock and metal bands coming up. They aren't just rehashing old sounds, they are toying with sounds that prior generations might have thought were either played out or never cool to begin with. Stigmas have been broken and I think we're getting alot of interesting stuff because of it

[@_azurejake]

Oli said in an interview he was in a dark place and wanted to do what he thought was "fun" which explains why this album is less focused and serious compared to Post Human: Survival Horror.

[@MarkusSsZ]

Sure he did

[@bellabliss1860]

@@MarkusSsZ google is very easy to use!

[@_azurejake]

@@MarkusSsZ it's the NME interview he did not too long ago.

[@kazu9445]

@@MarkusSsZhe said a lot that explains the artistic approach of the album, as well as the reason it took so long etc.

[@billhicks8]

that's how all the best works of art are made.

[@ItzGlitchyy]

So a few things for this album, it was always supposed to pay homage to the emo music of the 2000s, every album in the post human series is supposed to have a different sound, as well as each one is supposed to have a different theme, the theme of this one is supposed to be healing, the post human project and the whole story will not be completed until the 4th album in the series, the original idea was to make 4 EPs that make up one giant album, obviously plans have changed though, and yes there is an overarching story throughout them all, there is actually a QR code hidden in dig it to an arg, and I know what you might say is why not make the story more obvious, well the answer to that is Oli didn’t want to shove the story down the throat of anyone who just cares about the music, if you read this thank you for taking the time out of your day Mr Fantano, I know you’re the internet’s busiest music nerd

[@Cymoar]

No way he spent half the video just talking about survival horror. Obviously it’s not a continuation of survival horror cuz when has BMTH ever made a second record that sounds like the previous one, that’s literally like their whole thing. Personally, I like this album more than survival horror. As much as I didn’t hate SH, none of the tracks really stuck with me and was mostly just exciting because it was back in a more metal direction. Don’t mean to hate on it if you love it. But even if Nex Gen are mostly appreciation tracks for previous bands, limousine and bullet with my name on are fire af, and YOUtopia is the best song they’ve put out since Drown

[@Xandru3434]

Dumb fun rock=3 Dumb fun rap=6 Someone likes to please someone...

[@stalewaterbottle]

i wouldn't call nex gen "dumb fun" i actually think its fun is well thought out

[@Milo-it1tf]

That and bmth is metal, not rock, those are two different genres

[@loxi9]

​@@Milo-it1tfur gate keeping people with bmth? Really? For fucks sake you cant be older than 13.

[@Auswirth]

What happened to all the singles you liked? Did your opinion of them suddenly change upon hearing them in album format? I mean i expected you wouldn't like it as much as survival horror but... sheesh...

[@nine-toedsloth7168]

Lol I knew you would despise this record. Especially Limousine, due to your Deftones hatred. And while I agree with some of your points, I just wanna say some things. This album wasn't meant to follow SH's sound as the band stated that all 4 of the PH albums would explore a different sound. SH was pure Linkin Park worship done incredibly well. This album goes for Hyperpop Emo mixed with Alt Metal. So as far as what I was expecting, the band put out the album I thought they would. I agree the self loathing gets a bit much, but eh that's emo for you. I agree the production is a brick wall, which I noticed as soon as Youtopia started. Regardless, I like this sound mashup and the fact that SH had such a throwback sound, it's not surprising that this does too, albeit with more experimentation IMO (once again the Hyperpop elements I found very cool). I love this album, but I know you Melon, so your 3 makes sense. Can't wait until the next album they put out in 4 years.

[@sherochafernando6346]

Guess this is what happens when you get the wrong listening partner. That Legoshi (Beastars, heh) guy made the whole thing more enjoyable on Brad's stream, with his lore explanations. But the 2000s emo-hating 2000s emo girl on Melon's stream was a complete killjoy.

[@KINGJADEX]

Killjoy is a nice way of putting it.

[@HEAVYpeople250499]

From the same guy that gave Sempiternal a 4/10 and put Shadow Moses as the worst track on the album. This is just another one on his loooong list of bad metal takes.

[@oldworldkvlt]

@@icallmyselfARI For some reason metal has become an umbrella term for any ""heavy"" guitar music.

[@vlastasalmijak9392]

​@@icallmyselfARI Then tell us what is metal to you

[@the.sundew]

​​@@icallmyselfARIfantano labeled it as alt metal in the description. Its obviously not metal in the conventional sense

[@HEAVYpeople250499]

@@icallmyselfARI Yes, why wouldn't I? Because some edgy gatekeeper on the internet tells me not to?

[@HEAVYpeople250499]

@@oldworldkvlt It's almost as if music had some characteristics and conventions that tend to be associated with certain genres, crazy right?

[@sammo2560]

I don’t get how he could really consider this 5 points lower than Survivor Horror

[@hargydon]

I do.

[@lowestpoly64]

especially since a large portion of this album expands on the general sonic ideas that worked in PHSH. all of the nu-metal influenced tracks are very much improved upon from Teardrops, Parasite Eve, and Obey. all the powerful electronicore elements that made Kingslayer so fucking good is cranked up to 11 in amen, and the lyrics are a massive step up overall. in a way, PHNG is almost a direct upgrade from survival horror in every conceivable way

[@theminecraftjester1738]

@@lowestpoly64 i like survival horror more but this album is not a 3

[@2750djbt]

Wasnt the point of the (4?) Post Human records to revisit different sounds through the times, hence why Survival horror was much heavier, and Nex Gen being more Emo? I remember Oli and the band (Jordan) talking about it like that a few years ago when they were supposed to be released in a one year cycle. I could be wrong? Am i being delusional?

[@patrickmohr6985]

I agree survival horror is the better album. Upon repeat listens this album grew on me, except for limousine “get me low like a basement” is just a tragically stupid line

[@dylanmatthews5624]

i believe this lyric is a reference to oli’s wife, who wrote a song with a similar lyric. oli sings, “get me low like a basement, i hope that you wrote all your songs for me”

[@nikjanuario]

never dislike a brazillian artist again. you are now banned from Brazil

[@cameronwalker857]

So funny cos some of the songs you’re saying you don’t like you said you did like on your track reviews and did a U Turn when that girl you streamed with said they didn’t like it

[@nico.f.]

you're so basic

[@DarkestKnightshade]

​@@nico.f.uh no u

[@Jake_Jones]

The only thing I agree with is some of the production issues but there is absolutely growth and progression throughout the record wtf

[@ayyy_corn]

I don't know, man. 3 feels pretty low 😂. I mean, do I like it more than I liked survival horror when it came out? Of course not, but i have been having a whole heck of a lot of fun with NeX GEn. From trying to figure WTH all those damn random capitalized letters spelled to the spooky occult references in (Spi)ritual to the messages encoded in the static throughout the albums to that savage transition between R.i.p and Amen. To each their own, I guess, but I'd give it at least a 7 🤷‍♂️.

[@VersauceyBwoii]

I think Sans Undertale's guest vocals on R.i.p. adds an extra point to the score but that's just me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@kenswords]

Also, the transition into "Amen!" is awesome

[@theboi5584]

Brad once again showing his further deviation from Fantano 😂

[@patriarch739]

Reminder that fantano doesn’t actually listen to metal

[@l1p0v]

I think he liked Frontierer.

[@haywoodu.cuddleme9179]

He listens to GOOD metal lol

[@alextihor1190]

saying this doesnt have an arc across the tracks is just plainly wrong, I mean Oli literally went through the songs explaining how one connects to the next. Its a really clear picture. Saying its "just self loathing" is ignorant... And this isnt even an opinion

[@MartinJurus]

Yeah, I get it Melon doesn't care about the sound itself, fair, but maybe he should read up on bands' intentions with their work? They've clearly stated, years ago when Survival Horror came out, that this next project would be 2000s emo / scene influenced album with hyperpop elements (and their heavy stuff too, of course).

[@burgermind802]

The review hinges upon the false assumption that an album should sound like the prior one

[@CrudeBeach]

This comment hinges on the assumption that if it ain’t broke, you should in fact fix it

[@lawsonwuestefeld1409]

I really think you are fundamentally wrong in your understanding of this album

[@TannerDAWG77]

I really dig the album, it's definitely not as strong as survival horror but there's definitely more to it than just Amen. Also it just feels odd to me that the only specific examples you can give for your critiques are aimed at limousine. Like you literally mention two tracks and they're the only two listed in your description, seems kinda lazy tbh

[@nexieve]

If you dont like the genre itself, why would you review it?

[@HEAVYpeople250499]

Also it's been more than two weeks since the album release was it so necessary to post such a lazy review?

[@kristina_eb]

am i the only one who was kind of rubbed the wrong way by "self hatred and self absorption are two sides of the same coin"? like forget about musical takes what a weird mental health take

[@vibelet]

internet music critics are historically really weird about people who struggle with self-hatred

[@KINGJADEX]

Yeah, that’s one of the most ridiculous takes of all time.

[@vibelet]

@@KINGJADEX mgk released a song that was literally about severe depression after losing his child and fantano called it "overdramatic"

[@vinhxo2k632]

Nice review but L and I've made up my mind that this is an amazing fucking album, melon-man

[@TheMrXzone]

Anthony Sempiternal literraly saved an entire genre and gave it life for over 10 years to come, how da fuck SURVIVAL HORROR is their best work, not even close

[@JohannesVIII]

guys, guys, this is only one point under the score their (arguably) most popular album Sempiternal got from him at the time, it's okay, things are just back to normal lol

[@nomeru_0]

i don't know why you expected this album to sound like survival horror in the first place. Bring me the horizon is the one band that is literally known for changing their sound from the ground up on each release. You weren't born yesterday you know this.

[@TheBlaskar]

I never understood gatekeeping in metal. But I do now. We don’t want you

[@WhackCalZone]

This is not a metal album tbh

[@TheBlaskar]

@@WhackCalZone I mean that’s like saying Aliens isn’t a horror movie because it’s predominantly a sci-fi action film with horror elements and horror roots

[@WhackCalZone]

@@TheBlaskar its more like saying Gremlins 2 isn't a horror movie actually

[@TheBlaskar]

@@WhackCalZone 😂 alr you win, that was good

[@NativeAngelino]

Wait, was this a review of Nex Gen or Survival Horror?

[@kenswords]

nope

[@CrudeBeach]

It’s a review of Lionel Richie’s Tuskegee

[@horizoniki]

yes

[@paulagarciallorente]

This is the closest we will ever get to Fantano ever talking about Sewerslvt

[@KINGJADEX]

Anthony, do you not even understand that each of these Post Human records is supposed to be a tribute to different music styles. Oli also said that they’ve perfected polish, this is supposed to sound rougher and more grungy.

[@CrudeBeach]

So if they do a polka album next, you would be cool with it so long as it’s intentional? They’re just trying different styles out man …you might even like polka

[@KINGJADEX]

@@CrudeBeach Yeah, that’d be absolutely fine with me. I love seeing their evolution. But his primary argument is not that the genre/style sucks, it’s that it’s different from what they “perfected” on Survival Horror; when it’s supposed to be pretty different.

[@aryx8616]

You spent 8 minutes complaing how it doesnt sound like what you already like, even though Survival Horror is an even more blatant copy of Linkin Park. Then mention 3 songs overall. Anthony biastano

[@victorthiago5115]

really there are brads and anthonys in the world

[@MXXFLXWER]

The 3 identifies as a 10. Don’t worry y’all.

[@bellabliss1860]

happy pride month

[@MXXFLXWER]

@@bellabliss1860 back at ya

[@Underdrill]

5 points below survival horror? Major L melon.

[@Twittchyy]

Massive W actually, I’ve been bumping survival horror for the 4 years it’s been out. Nothing in this new record has any replay value

[@hargydon]

@@TwittchyyExactly.

[@d0giem]

@@Twittchyy Amen / Die4U / Koolaid are all great. but they've been out for a while now

[@DavidBarrios62]

@@TwittchyyDig It might be the best song they’ve ever done.

[@token_g]

He talked about like two songs and survival horror for the entire review.

[@allentastic]

I think they were trying to see how much heavy shit they could fit onto a pop rock record and really hit the mark from that perspective.

[@allentastic]

The end of Limousine is straight up Car Bomb worship which is wild

[@KouSoan]

Of course there are different opinions, but some of the things you say in the video are straight up false or extremely far from the point of the concept of the album lol

[@bellabliss1860]

not like him or his drones actually care about honest analysis, just being snarky and arrogant about their apathy.

[@Slime-Man-Extreme]

What are did he say that was false?

[@KouSoan]

@@Slime-Man-Extreme I'm not going to recite everything, you can listen to the album and then listen to the things he's saying. - "This music was made to appeal to christian youth ministers" ????? - "The music sounds old" ???????? - Not mentioning the core concept of the album, how purposely it is connected song to song, even connecting with the last one in SH I could go on and on. This review is not coming from a logical point of view at all. Objectively speaking.

[@ucbl_ck900]

@@KouSoan -saying the music appeal to Christian youth ministers is joke and not something to taken seriously - he say the music sounds old, then it sounds old to him, that doesn't make this a false statement. - would him mentioning the core concept of the album change his view on the overall sound of the music? This is just one guys opinion in the internet fam.He isn't as deeply invest in BMTH as you but that does not mean what is said is false when it come to something subjective a music critic

[@dolcik271]

@@KouSoan why should I dive deep into bmth shit trying to find the album's concept if it just sounds awful and outdated? That's not the music I expected from them after SH, and the concept is also barely recognised until someone explain it straight to you. You see, I don't need to watch all the artist's interviews and read tons of articles to understand a concept of a good album. So this album is just bad, especially in context of continuous progress and exploration of ideas of the band.

[@layman1265]

fantano: gives the singles a decent to positive review also fantano: the album is a 3/10

[@AUDIOCRISIS]

You know an album is fire when fantano hates it

[@youcrazyjesues]

Kool-Aid and Amen are straight bangers. Not my favorite album of theirs, but def not a 3.

[@kisigma1011]

Right

[@sloth-thot-337]

Most songs are LOADED kinda like how MCR did arrangements, but this really does not sound like anything that could've come out 20 years ago (or even 5-10). Their 00's throwback is both more modern and loyal than anyone else trying it. It feels like how things would sound if that era never dipped in popularity, in a kinda weird and dystopian way (the loudness wars are back). There's some things worth nitpicking but it's sonically elaborate, it's crazy hooky, and it experiments with old ideas but makes them new. It's fair not to like it, but expecting another Survival Horror is a weird take for someone who can give an outline of their discography