British Army swapping shouting for empathy when training recruits

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18 күн бұрын

The sound of a military instructor barking at troops is perhaps a familiar sound to personnel past and present.
But now, the British Army is changing the way it treats recruits.
Brigadier Andrew Garner, Commandant of the Soldier Academy, told Forces News recruits might have historically feared their instructor but that is not what the Army is now trying to achieve.
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@winnie796
@winnie796 16 күн бұрын
Rejecting the ways that have won your country battles and wars over the centuries ........is one Hell of a gamble with safety of your country.
@greyvoice7949
@greyvoice7949 16 күн бұрын
They know exactly what they are doing , destroying our military just as they are destroying our Country...
@kierano8390
@kierano8390 16 күн бұрын
yes, we have rejected the sword and bow, which have won our country battles and wars over the century, i wouldnt say it was a gamble at all, just something that logically made sense such that our armies would perform better in the future. You're a m*ron lmao
@AllThingsCubey
@AllThingsCubey 16 күн бұрын
The recruitment pool comes from a different world, and the teaching methods need to change accordingly The end result is what matters, not the way you get them there. The goal is to reduce how many drop out before you can get them into the correct mindset and ability for war.
@Oxley016
@Oxley016 16 күн бұрын
@@AllThingsCubey the people might be different but the quality of soldiers we need is not.
@manlybaker3098
@manlybaker3098 16 күн бұрын
The "recruit pool" always comes from a different generation/mind-set. The "sorting" must happen early or time and money is wasted on "prospecting". Preparatory courses can reduce the number of prospects that probably won't successful complete training.
@JB-pk3bz
@JB-pk3bz 16 күн бұрын
Reacting instantly to danger, that saves lives. Shouting serves a purpose, to be conditioned to pressure.
@liammorris1018
@liammorris1018 16 күн бұрын
imagine when one of them falls into enemy hands and they don't get an ounce of empathy, they'll rat everyone else out in a heartbeat.
@jefffranklin4894
@jefffranklin4894 16 күн бұрын
Indeed
@danielwhyatt3278
@danielwhyatt3278 16 күн бұрын
Exactly. This’s very worrying.
@akhilShah-wu7pp
@akhilShah-wu7pp 15 күн бұрын
You lots know nothing 😂😂😂 shouting is stupid maybe learn from the sas
@liammorris1018
@liammorris1018 15 күн бұрын
@@akhilShah-wu7pp you wouldn’t last a day in SAS training.
@liamhemmings9039
@liamhemmings9039 16 күн бұрын
Fatties and empathy. Way to go Army.
@mannitov2644
@mannitov2644 16 күн бұрын
if you think in this way then let me ask you, would you really say the us infantry are better than the British? of course not, they get yelled at 24/7 and still... i mean look at them, we will do what we must to unsure the rate of personnel coming in whilst simultaneously keeping high standards
@lewisdean22
@lewisdean22 16 күн бұрын
Pish​@@mannitov2644
@BalloonHead6
@BalloonHead6 16 күн бұрын
​@mannitov2644 You say that, but the standards in the British Army are consistently being lowered. From the PFA to the much easier SCR, low standards of the RFT and now this
@teddypicker8799
@teddypicker8799 16 күн бұрын
Theres no fatties in the british army mate they won't take you if have a cold 5 years ago
@zinjanthropus322
@zinjanthropus322 16 күн бұрын
​​@@mannitov2644 You'll find out when they're deployed to actual combat.
@joshuafraser7310
@joshuafraser7310 16 күн бұрын
The whole point of them shouting is a display of authority and to give instructions. They should not be soft and they should not change the way they have always been. The whole point of an instructor is to be hard and tough, but fair Not to mention that them shouting is for you to remain calm and focused.
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 16 күн бұрын
Next thing will be taking a group vote when being given orders...
@Nathann99
@Nathann99 16 күн бұрын
I’m sure you know better than the British army on how to train troops when we have a recruitment crisis 😂😂
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 16 күн бұрын
@@Nathann99 We have an employment crisis fullstop, not just in the armed forces, it's been going on in business for over a decade now. Dropping standards, and ego stroking isn't the way to go, my industry is a pale shadow of what it once was.
@DJWESG1
@DJWESG1 16 күн бұрын
​@LoremIpsum1970 automation has made its mark without the introduction of large language models. Think how bad its gunna get in the near future.
@Observer-xc6fp
@Observer-xc6fp 16 күн бұрын
@@Nathann99 Does the Army even know anymore though thats the question. You want soldiers capable of doing the job not dragging through those who can’t hack it.
@seanhayes9769
@seanhayes9769 16 күн бұрын
Nonsense is the only word to describe this
@chuckflangemaster1325
@chuckflangemaster1325 16 күн бұрын
Absolutely agree.
@FellRaven01
@FellRaven01 16 күн бұрын
WTF just WTF is wrong with people today. These are not the recruits you want.
@akhilShah-wu7pp
@akhilShah-wu7pp 15 күн бұрын
Well you don’t want uk sas Sbs then because they don’t shout 😂😂😂 not shouting is a better way of training and if you don’t believe me then tough 🤣😂 I wonder how sas could be wrong ah I tell you what you email them and say shout let’s see how far you get 😂😂
@Redchairbluedoor
@Redchairbluedoor 15 күн бұрын
@@akhilShah-wu7pp how do you think they got to that standard in the first place? They all went through training before they can join? Your point is invalid. The SF isn’t initial training is it?
@akhilShah-wu7pp
@akhilShah-wu7pp 15 күн бұрын
@@Redchairbluedoor clearly you don’t understand anything about the army so sit down kid 🗣️ But clearly you think you’re an expert and watch too many movies and KZbin 😂😂😂😂😂
@Redchairbluedoor
@Redchairbluedoor 15 күн бұрын
@@akhilShah-wu7pp i can guarantee you that is the other way around, if you think purely because the SF don’t shout at recruits then the rest of the army should, then clearly you have never served, every soldier past or present knows exactly what purpose it gives.
@alistairjclark2433
@alistairjclark2433 13 күн бұрын
Shouting isn't constructive for teaching. Obviously basic will include a lot of shouting as it's need like combat and drill but I think the point is they shouldn't be making people fear instructors but respect them as the brigadier said. I think the guys point about the SAS is that people are there to learn to do a job. Being shouted at for a minor mistake might be making good recruits leave. A better approach may be, you messed up you can do x to fix it. Obviously shouting will never go away
@paulnicholson1545
@paulnicholson1545 16 күн бұрын
A progressive and inclusive Army, which treats its subordinates with empathy and compassion.. this is a top-down mandate from the leaders. Attributes that may be better suited to peacekeeping than fighting. Soldiers should be conditioned mentally and physically for the reality of war.
@Joe90V
@Joe90V 15 күн бұрын
Yup, although everybody needs a drone these days as a personal weapon. Everything changes.
@barrywood7322
@barrywood7322 16 күн бұрын
They first time the enemy shouts at them they burst into tears. I always thought basic was too knock the civilian out of you and toughen you up.
@garagenigel
@garagenigel 15 күн бұрын
With an army that's well below 70k troops we won't be engaging any enemies anytime soon
@barrywood7322
@barrywood7322 15 күн бұрын
@@garagenigel Hopefully 🤞
@user-jy3si3jz9z
@user-jy3si3jz9z 16 күн бұрын
Went through Guards Depot Pirbright during the 1960s. It never done us any harm !!! Shouted at morning noon and night, riffted to within an inch of your life ! Cuts the Corn from the chaff,What are you doing ? Producing fighting soldiers, or mummy's boys and girls. For god's sake, get a grip.
@Mitsu8998
@Mitsu8998 16 күн бұрын
Remember the sandhill and heartbreak? They have actually banned them both now.
@Mitsu8998
@Mitsu8998 16 күн бұрын
Remember the sandhill and heartbreak? Both have been banned now.
@user-jy3si3jz9z
@user-jy3si3jz9z 16 күн бұрын
​@@Mitsu8998Happy days,modern recruits would expect tea and biscuits halfway up !!!
@markk1720
@markk1720 16 күн бұрын
​@@Mitsu8998Really? Ive got my ATC at pirbright this weekend for reserves and will likely do my phase 1 there, heartbreak is infamous
@Buckrogers8746
@Buckrogers8746 16 күн бұрын
Went through it at the end of the 70’s at the guards depot never did me any harm,, taking an order shouting in a tank, well their wasn’t any discussion then we did what we were told, it saves lives
@masaukochitsamba7808
@masaukochitsamba7808 16 күн бұрын
Did the old ways of doing things not work? Did shouting by instructors produce bad soldiers?
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 16 күн бұрын
If it hurts their fweeling they shouldn't be in the job in the first place...
@lewisdean22
@lewisdean22 16 күн бұрын
Look if you raise your voice to me in that tone again I will be forced to report you to my mum.
@greyvoice7949
@greyvoice7949 16 күн бұрын
We used to have one of the best military's in the world , but alas we are getting far away from that now...
@cloaker1619
@cloaker1619 16 күн бұрын
​@@greyvoice7949 no army remains on top forever.
@Oxley016
@Oxley016 16 күн бұрын
@@Aesop123 We are 2x world title champions mate
@alanaldpal950
@alanaldpal950 16 күн бұрын
Training in the army should be enjoyable…. Perfect preparation for combat which surely will be stress free and enjoyable…. Brilliant.
@greyvoice7949
@greyvoice7949 16 күн бұрын
Love Sarcasm!
@andyt3304
@andyt3304 16 күн бұрын
And all Pink and Fluffy
@Mitsu8998
@Mitsu8998 16 күн бұрын
God help us. If war breaks out, they'll be begging for us old guys to rejoin.
@iaingreig9685
@iaingreig9685 16 күн бұрын
Usually I hate when current or former military post for the sake of stroking their own ego. But what you have said is 100% true.
@cammysmith7562
@cammysmith7562 15 күн бұрын
Yes we will be begging for the oldies that spent 4 years being an alcoholic in the transport corps in Germany
@Mitsu8998
@Mitsu8998 15 күн бұрын
@@cammysmith7562 Actually that would be 11 years in the Welsh Guards. HAve a nice day. Wokey!
@Mitsu8998
@Mitsu8998 15 күн бұрын
@@iaingreig9685 Trust me mate, this is not an ego trip. I love our armed forces with a passion and I'm gutted seeing the woke agenda appear for the lads and lasses serving. I feel so sorry for them. It isn't their fault.
@Mitsu8998
@Mitsu8998 15 күн бұрын
@@cammysmith7562 Are you currently serving?
@jjsmallpiece9234
@jjsmallpiece9234 16 күн бұрын
My old Flt Sgt will be rolling in his grave
@davecaddy513
@davecaddy513 16 күн бұрын
Aaahhh, bless them. If they get upset give them a cuddle and the afternoon off. I joined the Army as a 16 year old and our Company Sgt Major was a Grenadier Guardsman. Ever since then all through my working life I've never been upset by a bollocking...I've been bollocked by experts!
@garagenigel
@garagenigel 15 күн бұрын
Cool story!
@lewiselliott6274
@lewiselliott6274 16 күн бұрын
Is war going to be quieter as well? Since when are we bothered about feeling?
@Ev1lsp00n
@Ev1lsp00n 16 күн бұрын
Hopefully, the Russians will be nice too and stop launching artillery at 3:30, as the soldier's mums will need to pick them up from the trenches.
@garywagner2466
@garywagner2466 16 күн бұрын
Yes. The eco-zealots have outlawed loud noises, especially after ten at night. No more explosions that might upset their emotional support poodle.
@akhilShah-wu7pp
@akhilShah-wu7pp 15 күн бұрын
Sas Sbs don’t shout you guys are all stupid if you think shouting is making the army softer not I’ll tell you what does USA they all soft babies
@emersonmsd
@emersonmsd 16 күн бұрын
Are they nuts? If you can't take someone shouting at you, how will you handle someone shooting at you? There was a reason basic training was as it was. And a certain amount of weeding out was required.
@jacob79001
@jacob79001 16 күн бұрын
Discipline turns a boy into a humble Man... Empathy turns a boy into a self-important man-child.
@AnthonyMcGowan
@AnthonyMcGowan 16 күн бұрын
Part of the screaming at you is to put you under pressure and stress, the reason is simple, if you can perform under the pressure and stress of your sgt's then you are more likely to perform in the chaos of battle. its a well tried and tested system over hundreds of years.
@benjaminpicton7235
@benjaminpicton7235 15 күн бұрын
Aye mate 100% Guess the Army never heard the saying “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” Or they misread it for, “if it ain’t woke, fix it”
@god1971b
@god1971b 16 күн бұрын
THIS IS INSANE!!! Russian Alqaeda etc, they arent going to be worried about soldiers feelings... Our army has to ready to face forces that treat the geneva convention as loo paper.
@cloaker1619
@cloaker1619 16 күн бұрын
Yet the russian forces suck and need help from mercenary groups who eventually turn on them.
@DanielsPolitics1
@DanielsPolitics1 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, how is that going for Russia? Far from victory against a much smaller country after over two years. An absolute catalogue of errors when they invaded. An incompetent ill disciplined rabble.
@paraguard60
@paraguard60 16 күн бұрын
Very well said!! Don´t expect empathy and fair play on a battlefield................
@BalloonHead6
@BalloonHead6 16 күн бұрын
"Firm but fair" yet you're not allowed to shout at someone throwing the whole parade off in case you hurt their feelings
@D25Bev
@D25Bev 16 күн бұрын
Standards are seriously deteriorating these days. They'll be having spa days next.
@Grumfuttocks
@Grumfuttocks 16 күн бұрын
At least they can watch their IPads in comfort
@AEIOU05
@AEIOU05 16 күн бұрын
There needs to be a healthy balance between discipline and humane treatment. I was above average when it came to motivation, but when sadistic instructors hand out beastings and hurl out insults left and right, even I lose my will to soldier. Senseless cruelty creates a toxic environment and the actual content of training gets lost. However when it’s done too lax, soldiers get underprepared and easily overwhelmed when pressure increases. I saw both extremes in practice within a six month timeframe
@DezRosswess
@DezRosswess 16 күн бұрын
I often found the fearful NCO on the parade ground to be patient and informative in the classroom, both parties need to know who's in charge when the time comes.
@Observer-xc6fp
@Observer-xc6fp 16 күн бұрын
How utterly depressing to see how much the Army is going down the drain.
@springer3783
@springer3783 16 күн бұрын
Yep the Russian way of war is to treat there enemies with empathy
@Atar-ug2vb
@Atar-ug2vb 16 күн бұрын
Hopefully the Russians will give us hugs and kisses so our 'warriors' don't have their feelings hurt.
@princegroove
@princegroove 16 күн бұрын
Russian paper army.
@gilbert7794
@gilbert7794 16 күн бұрын
@@princegrooveNo the Russian Army is real and home from 800,000 to over 1.2 million regular troops who are required today train hard and have high levels of fitness
@cloaker1619
@cloaker1619 16 күн бұрын
​@@gilbert7794 but they also suck so i dont think anyone is afraid.
@springer3783
@springer3783 16 күн бұрын
@@cloaker1619 They laying ruins to Ukraine as we speak . We don’t have to like the Russians but let’s at least live in reality , they probably as of today have the most powerful and experienced army in the world
@rulebritannia3147
@rulebritannia3147 16 күн бұрын
I feel safer by the minute
@kevlacy5306
@kevlacy5306 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, because the enemy will treat you with empathy!!! What a joke 😂
@ahsjdhdjshdg2032
@ahsjdhdjshdg2032 16 күн бұрын
Ah yes because we should treat each other the same way the enemy treats us, that would make for a well working organisation
@kevlacy5306
@kevlacy5306 16 күн бұрын
@@ahsjdhdjshdg2032 Yeah, maybe we should just stand there and let the enemy just shoot us. Clearly you have no understanding of the military and the psychology of war. It's not glorious and it takes a certain mindset, created in part through training.
@YeetyDelety
@YeetyDelety 16 күн бұрын
@@ahsjdhdjshdg2032 That's not the point. The point is the enemy will do it to you so lets prepare you for it so when it happens you don't fold.
@ahsjdhdjshdg2032
@ahsjdhdjshdg2032 16 күн бұрын
@@YeetyDelety and they do, that does not equate to screaming and shouting 24/7, unless you want half the army to commit suicide due to bad mental health
@user17923
@user17923 16 күн бұрын
@@YeetyDelety you yelling at them wont make a difference they haven't been conscribed. They want to be there and if they training hasn't been softened they'll do fine. im sure you corporal yelling at you wont make a difference Infront of the enemy
@losthart
@losthart 16 күн бұрын
who's going to be nice to them when they are in combat?
@AverageWhiteGuy101
@AverageWhiteGuy101 16 күн бұрын
And there it is... The final nail in the coffin of an effective fighting force. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Get ready for backchat and endless refusals to follow instruction.
@ihatserbs1771
@ihatserbs1771 16 күн бұрын
If the army is so weak then who will hold the nation together? Nature doesn't like power vacuums.
@aestheticallyirrelevant3081
@aestheticallyirrelevant3081 16 күн бұрын
Did you even watch the video?
@gw2891
@gw2891 16 күн бұрын
@@aestheticallyirrelevant3081yep and he’s correct
@davidrenton
@davidrenton 16 күн бұрын
it's not empathic to lessen effectiveness, discipline which ends up getting you killed , if recruits can't take it, then they have no place in the Army as being shouted at is the least of their concern if a conflict happens
@luckysticks
@luckysticks 15 күн бұрын
I never passed basic training in ‘93 and for good reason, I was too soft for a life in the Army. Some people are not meant for it, so weed them out. Jesus Christ the UK has lost the plot!
@rafaelmagalhaes1751
@rafaelmagalhaes1751 16 күн бұрын
What a disgrace
@paddy_118
@paddy_118 16 күн бұрын
If you can't handle shouting then how the hell will you handle an RPG whizzing past.
@greyvoice7949
@greyvoice7949 16 күн бұрын
They won't have to because they will be asked if they would like to take part in the next war... The answer will be NO!
@garywagner2466
@garywagner2466 16 күн бұрын
No longer allowed. Greenpeace said so.
@igniteflow
@igniteflow 16 күн бұрын
Bunch of soft lads. Just what we need on the front line.
@K_Ri-mw4hr
@K_Ri-mw4hr 16 күн бұрын
Now I am not in the military, but from my understanding, the shouting plays 2 purposes. Sets clear authority & structure, something which you need when bullets are flying inches from your head. And to get civilians used to this confrontational, aggressive environment which, unsurprisingly, war is both confrontational & aggressive. If us, as civilians, are not used to getting yelled at, that's 1 more issue we'd have in combat.
@jimjackson1795
@jimjackson1795 16 күн бұрын
I am so glad that I am now a civilian.
@59patrickw
@59patrickw 15 күн бұрын
can not go back to a civilian your a ex service personal and should be proud of that
@cry-rs7vv
@cry-rs7vv 10 күн бұрын
​@59patrickw you mean "extra meatshield" if ww3 breaks out ex military will be second to be forced to up
@richardbrown8108
@richardbrown8108 16 күн бұрын
I joined in 1981, lots of shouting, beastimgs, punnishments They broke you down then built you back up even better. I would still go back and do it all over again
@matthewwelch3007
@matthewwelch3007 16 күн бұрын
The army’s become a joke how can they expect us to be an effective fighting force when they are implementing things like this. The reason I wanted to join the army was to get away from this sort of softness. I may as well work in a spa now. Someone needs to do something and quickly.
@LEEROY79
@LEEROY79 16 күн бұрын
If they weren't already cannon fodder before they definitely are now!
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 16 күн бұрын
Honestly, it's pathetic.
@rossnolan2883
@rossnolan2883 16 күн бұрын
You can shut up as far as I am concerned the soldiers need to be welcomed before they get a telling off and that’s the more respectful way 😊😊😊
@lewisdean22
@lewisdean22 16 күн бұрын
Ok men , ladies, them , they, we will advance in a line and retake the trenches. Excuse me sgt but with that tone we're not going anywhere. Now say it more respectfully if you don't mind.
@stephensmith4480
@stephensmith4480 16 күн бұрын
@@lewisdean22 My Grandfather served in The Irish Guards during WW1. He would turn in his Grave if he saw the likes of this.
@lewisdean22
@lewisdean22 16 күн бұрын
@@stephensmith4480 I served from 1980-89 and it never done me any harm.
@josephhirst-ew5rc
@josephhirst-ew5rc 16 күн бұрын
@@rossnolan2883 Sure they need to feel welcomed but i'd rather be yelled at in training and get used to high pressure situations there rather than having to get used to it on the battlefield where you more likely to end up dead
@jackreilly4417
@jackreilly4417 16 күн бұрын
I have never been so embarrassed before this can’t believe it
@phooogle
@phooogle 16 күн бұрын
Yes, because soldiers don't need to be tough...... war is easy right?
@ralphclarke5030
@ralphclarke5030 16 күн бұрын
That Sergeant Major needs to enlist on a gym membership 😂
@stealth1803
@stealth1803 16 күн бұрын
My fanny hurts just watching this. I need a time out
@MarkSmith-jt3pt
@MarkSmith-jt3pt 16 күн бұрын
I did 13 years in the Army I hang my head in shame at the woke Army
@av4rici0u55
@av4rici0u55 16 күн бұрын
That scouser looked like he was about to roundhouse that reporter if he got asked another question.
@lizzietheoldbiddy262
@lizzietheoldbiddy262 16 күн бұрын
Good Grief! God help us to ensure that we meet our DEI quota with empathy and no hurty feelings
@chrisdob1980
@chrisdob1980 16 күн бұрын
No shouting for a crystal generation.
@SenorTucano
@SenorTucano 16 күн бұрын
1:17 look at the big fat muffin on parade. Warrant Officer Salad Dodger 😂
@rhysevans1529
@rhysevans1529 16 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@cloaker1619
@cloaker1619 16 күн бұрын
There probally at the end of there service, he isnt fighting anymore, just training or doing office work. Some soldiers after 22 years of service get two choices which are discharge or do another 3 more years but you wont be in a combat role anymore, its very common for people taking on those extra 3 years to get fat.
@ahsjdhdjshdg2032
@ahsjdhdjshdg2032 16 күн бұрын
Can 100% guarantee he could outrun you
@ralphclarke5030
@ralphclarke5030 16 күн бұрын
@@cloaker1619 Regardless of that fact, it is not a good look for the young soldiers. (33 years The Parachute Regiment)
@gw2891
@gw2891 16 күн бұрын
@@cloaker1619ex infantry I’m being genuine I never saw a WO2 or WO1 ever out of shape and could hold their own until retirement… sorry but that’s a fact
@paulworgan6599
@paulworgan6599 16 күн бұрын
There is a time for empathy but you also need to be tough and aggressive and not get upset because you are shouted at.
@richardwindow2492
@richardwindow2492 13 күн бұрын
Shouting is what saves your life ,You react immediately,
@iaidoman
@iaidoman 16 күн бұрын
I joined the household division in 1981. We were physically and mentally broken. We were then built back to the best soldiers in the world. That mamby pamby, let's hold your hand, will destroy morale within the service. Whoever signed this mummery off needs their head checking...
@andrewparnell6656
@andrewparnell6656 16 күн бұрын
Monty Python "marching up and down the square " has come true!
@stealth1803
@stealth1803 16 күн бұрын
unless you have something better to do
@andrewparnell6656
@andrewparnell6656 15 күн бұрын
@@stealth1803 got a book I want to finish ?
@nealparry
@nealparry 16 күн бұрын
For their next update, rifles will be replaced with feather dusters.
@graememckay9972
@graememckay9972 16 күн бұрын
"if they are here, the army has deemed them suitable, it's our job to get them over the line" yup, that's the problem right there. Some office staff somewhere has deemed them suitable because they have targets to reach and the medical/ fitness standards have been lowered to help them meet those targets. It's now left to the trainers, who disagree with the nonsense, to cajole them up to passimg out parade by being nice, friendly and supportive. Then they go to their respective regiment and learn what the real job looks like.
@SteveInsidious
@SteveInsidious 16 күн бұрын
Ghey. Our armed forces have become a joke...a bad one.
@mcnair435
@mcnair435 16 күн бұрын
I keep hearing from British Army vets that it's "all changing for the worse" now. Now I understand what they're getting at.
@Jman33333
@Jman33333 16 күн бұрын
Pathetic really. Turning soft.
@usi-tmwegd
@usi-tmwegd 16 күн бұрын
I was shocked by the culture. As expected from the British Army.👍
@mrjockt
@mrjockt 15 күн бұрын
An instructor explained to us during basic training that shouting instructions and orders were intended to get us into the habit of obeying orders instinctively, something that in the heat of combat could help keep you alive.
@rainnelmaclang4803
@rainnelmaclang4803 14 күн бұрын
Shouting and screaming replicates the chaos the soldiers will encounter during war environment. It trains the soldiers focus on orders and instructions and follow them instinctively while hell is breaking loose all around them. Mind stress training like these will mean life or death in real war environment.
@user-ru3re2nv1t
@user-ru3re2nv1t 16 күн бұрын
Jesus h christ were doomed , empathy in my day was a rare beast , shouting swearing etc is all part of army life
@brettyates7054
@brettyates7054 16 күн бұрын
I think there’s a fundamental loss of understanding here, for and against, within and without. The reason militaries throughout the ages presented a harsh and austere life was not simple communication but it was to encourage a particular mentality and worldview, one that is particularly out of fashion today, stoicism. If you’re shouting without knowing that or you refuse to shout without knowing that then you’re equally wrong, the intent is to apply discomfort as a means of encouraging a mental fortitude that could exist in a vacuum (heresy today of course).
@williambuckley6695
@williambuckley6695 16 күн бұрын
What are they Training Wimps
@1889AP
@1889AP 15 күн бұрын
Everyone slating this is just arrogant, this is revolutionary and visionary. Leaked documents have shown the Chinese and Russians have developed new super weapons known as “Care Bears” wild bears trained to hug and console the enemy to death. Conditioning recruits to tolerate inconceivable amounts of empathy is definitely the way to combat this new threat.
@Kiwiboy1929
@Kiwiboy1929 16 күн бұрын
I hope they get tucked up in bed and read a bedtime story
@lexi_9995
@lexi_9995 16 күн бұрын
Sergeant - first squad, standby to assault that enemy bunker! First squad private, sorry sarge, I'm a bit tired and I promised to phone my grandmother, she's not well you know. Another squad member - please could you stop shouting I've got a slight headache, also I left my ammo back at base because it's much too heavy, I feel for you sarge and I realised that if we don't take the bunker this whole attack will grind to a halt, but thats your problem not ours, perhaps you could ask the guys in the bunker to stop firing because they are being much too noisy, cheers sarge.
@VanderlyndenJengold
@VanderlyndenJengold 16 күн бұрын
Saw the title and just knew what and who to expect in the comments. Not disappointed!
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 16 күн бұрын
If only the video was just about trolling. Sadly it's true and deserves all the criticism it gets.
@echoic-yl5wj
@echoic-yl5wj 16 күн бұрын
You aren’t making soldiers, you’re making fairies
@DasMonke
@DasMonke 16 күн бұрын
They didn’t sign up for you do whisper sweet nothings in their ears and caress their cheeks
@SenorTucano
@SenorTucano 16 күн бұрын
Well those that signed up for the Navy did.
@latch9781
@latch9781 16 күн бұрын
@@SenorTucano Different cheeks though
@eternalsleeping
@eternalsleeping 16 күн бұрын
They didn't sign up for another person to spit in there face while shouting insults either.
@gw2891
@gw2891 16 күн бұрын
@@eternalsleepinggo back to eternal sleeping and stay in your dream world
@Mountianlions69
@Mountianlions69 16 күн бұрын
I went through military training in the late 80's and the bullying was on another level I'm talking actual physical assaults as well as verbal degrading. We all made it though and it made me who I am today.
@kevlacy5306
@kevlacy5306 16 күн бұрын
Exactly! Same when I joined.
@danieljeray8735
@danieljeray8735 16 күн бұрын
​@kevlacy5306 what reg?
@johnpixie
@johnpixie 16 күн бұрын
yeah thats not a good thing. you can train without breaking the law attacking the 16 year old trainie
@kevlacy5306
@kevlacy5306 16 күн бұрын
@@danieljeray8735 Paras mate
@aestheticallyirrelevant3081
@aestheticallyirrelevant3081 16 күн бұрын
Brother's a case study in generational abuse 💀
@amateurwizard
@amateurwizard 16 күн бұрын
"Ouch Charlie that hwuuuurts"
@christ4200
@christ4200 16 күн бұрын
Embarrassing.
@OneTwoMark
@OneTwoMark 16 күн бұрын
Isnt shouting and disicpline a test of mental fortitude? How are you going to cope in battle under fire if you havent been tested for such basic things prior?
@CFMLEAP
@CFMLEAP 16 күн бұрын
There’s nothing wrong with not shouting the SAS do their selection that way. The DS just tells you what to do once and if you don’t do it you’re gone. The problem with it in the rest of the armed forces is that they still need to be strict about it.
@anthonyodonnell6105
@anthonyodonnell6105 13 күн бұрын
The purpose of harsh treatment in drilling is to break through resistance to discipline that saves lives. This will get soldiers killed and make them less effective at winning battles.
@chrisouellet8488
@chrisouellet8488 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, because the enemy is going to show you all kinds of empathy on the battlefield. The people making these decisions clearly don't understand what the point of all that yelling and hostility was. It's to inoculate recruits to having to live in fear 24/7, and to weed out the ones who can't adapt to it.
@marknewcombe2488
@marknewcombe2488 16 күн бұрын
What an absolute disgrace. Has to be a joke 😂.
@cliffrightmove1527
@cliffrightmove1527 16 күн бұрын
Good old politicians and Civil Service ,what a true SHOWER THEY REALLY ARE 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵HOW MANY HAVE DONE MILITARY TRAINING 1% DISGRACEFUL 🥵
@greyvoice7949
@greyvoice7949 16 күн бұрын
Many Politicians/Civil Service that have are utterly useless people too... Yet they wave their 'service' in peoples faces and feel like they have to mention it often...
@deltacharlie1
@deltacharlie1 16 күн бұрын
Excuse me chaps would you awfully mind going to war
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 16 күн бұрын
Don't forget chapesses, non-binary and those who identify as penguins.
@stealth1803
@stealth1803 16 күн бұрын
@@EvoraGT430 but what if you are not feeling it
@gw2891
@gw2891 16 күн бұрын
@@stealth1803In that case stand down and attend a flag waving March somewhere
@is2good4u
@is2good4u 16 күн бұрын
Shouting isn't to berate. It's one of many tools used to instill the level of discipline necessary to mold a civilian into an order taking war fighter. Combat will hurt your feelings, among parts of the mind and body. A front line unit can't afford to have people who are concerned about getting their feelings hurt. There are just somethings the protected will never understand.
@johnhorsburgh8473
@johnhorsburgh8473 14 күн бұрын
If I mind right, getting shouted at all the time helped soldiers get use to 1 aspect of a chaotic environments (war and conflict). When they go to those environments, they are going to freeze up more and become more of a hazard now 😔😔
@ScrappyPower
@ScrappyPower 16 күн бұрын
Putin is terrified 🤦🏻
@wsefsedfsdfsdf
@wsefsedfsdfsdf 16 күн бұрын
that moment when the enamy is so pathetic you have to make it a fair fight
@cloaker1619
@cloaker1619 16 күн бұрын
Putin cant muster up an effective army since all of his generals are dead or are scared of him.
@mastersexpoloder
@mastersexpoloder 16 күн бұрын
i cant wait to read the comments for this one
@danc5769
@danc5769 16 күн бұрын
What are they going to be like in war, tell the enemy please don't shoot at me it will offend me
@sergeipetrov_rzn
@sergeipetrov_rzn 16 күн бұрын
at no point we are changing the standard - proceed to show women marching in formation
@LOOGOOBOB
@LOOGOOBOB 14 күн бұрын
Joining the army in a few months, and im very displeased to learn this. Are people so sensitive now that they cant survive a good old shouting. Such a sad world
@tomwhitham9964
@tomwhitham9964 16 күн бұрын
Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times
@cry-rs7vv
@cry-rs7vv 15 күн бұрын
Weak army creates weak men
@davenewbitt
@davenewbitt 16 күн бұрын
Words fail me, how pathetic, i guess the famous Monty Python sketch comes to mind, with the drill instruction on the square and he lets everyone go because they would rather be doing something else, so he is left alone to march himself up and down the square. Oh, dear my words didn't fail me. How pathetic, how criminal is this, it's part of the process, to build people up into a team and work together, it hardens you. I would how they will teach bayonet practice then, as thats is an evil one to teach if you cannot be angry with anyone. The laughing stock of the world, and that goes with the stupid beards they have today as well.
@VonBlitzkrieg
@VonBlitzkrieg 16 күн бұрын
Weak.
@barrymcmanmon9595
@barrymcmanmon9595 16 күн бұрын
Spineless
@bigwivit
@bigwivit 15 күн бұрын
Please ask any potential enemy not to shout at them as well or there'll be a lot of sad faces on the battlefield! 😢
@mush825
@mush825 14 күн бұрын
Think I’ll just say to people I’m an engineer now when they ask what I do, embarrassing to even say I’m in the army.
@Mike_EOD
@Mike_EOD 14 күн бұрын
Because all the enemy will just need is a stern talking to rather than a fight. If you don't put recruits under pressure during training then what's the point? Train hard fight easy, or train with cuddles and lose wars?
@keith8609
@keith8609 14 күн бұрын
Why change something if it's not broken it builds character this is not a good idea
@Veritas419
@Veritas419 15 күн бұрын
Be sure to tell the enemy not to shout.
@ScoopDogg
@ScoopDogg 16 күн бұрын
what if the enemy uses CAPS LOCK on us. Will our special forces be trained to handle CLAPPING and SWEAR WORDS and skilled in the arts of listening to Offensive Comedy etc. And do they need parent's permission to enroll. Can we change the Poppy to Pansies too ; )
@grahamarnhem8659
@grahamarnhem8659 15 күн бұрын
At least weve still got the royal marines. For now.
@ryanforbes6724
@ryanforbes6724 13 күн бұрын
"Never before have I seen such a blatant display of poofary in my life"
@davidsayer3325
@davidsayer3325 13 күн бұрын
Dropping standards to get the numbers up , a very sad state of affairs. How does this tougthen the recruits to deal with potential future combat.
@carly-beatz-DJ
@carly-beatz-DJ 16 күн бұрын
Oh dear.
@michaelanwyll
@michaelanwyll 16 күн бұрын
Gonna work great on a battlefield that innit... "you there, get over there and take out that bunker"... "nah, sorry sarge, I don't feel like it, my legs are aching...", "oh alright, pettle, you just lie there and have a rest, I'll do it this time for you, my lovely..."
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