British crew are attacked by a pod of 30 killer whales

The British crew of a luxury yacht feared for their lives after a pod of 30 killer whales attacked their boat - and even made off the rudder.
Martin Evans, 45, and Nathan Jones, 27, were part of a three-man crew delivering the vessel from Ramsgate, Kent, to Greece.
The 25ft orcas bizarrely circled and smashed into the boat for two hours, before one munched on the rudder, and swam off with a chunk in its mouth.
The team feared for their lives during the attack near the Strait of Gibraltar, and shocking video shows the destructive animals attack.
They managed to sail the yacht to the peninsula at the southern edge of Spain, but were left stranded without a vessel when it was deemed too damaged to use.
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[@AGamingBeaver]

Person in the video: "I don't like using the term killer whale, it wasn't so much an attack" "There were about 20 of them" Company who upoaded this video: ATTACKED BY A POD OF 30 KILLER WHALES!!!

[@widowmaker7831]

@TheGamingBeaver your right Beaver, this man was being hunted for sport lol. They were training the calf how to coordinate as a pack for future kills like the way they do with the calfs when teaching them to hunt seals in the arctic. The wolves of the Sea are beautiful creatures no doubt but defiantly not the type of creature I'd jump in the water with.

[@Mordalo]

@@widowmaker7831 I have been in the water with Orcas, you are clueless. There isn't a single report of an Orca attacking a human in the wild. Even the captivity ones were accidents.

[@jonnyp7978]

Is there any possibility they were going after the boat thinking it was a shark or other whale? Just bc humans were on board doesn’t mean they were targeting humans. It seemed more like they were targeting the vessel. The person that titles this post is a dumbass… the OP of this comment called it dead to rights. Might as well round up to 50 and then 100 orcas as the largest pod ever almost recorded… fucking clickbait hack job.

[@ginaharden2111]

@Shoreline Fishing By either name, they're still a dolphin.

[@rs5570]

Lol

[@lumberpilot]

Looks like an orcastrated attack.

[@mammoth505]

it was practice but not an attack. And not for sail boats.

[@alexnope2223]

Lol nice one

[@alexnope2223]

It's like you went from comment to comment restating the same wrong information. But i like your persistence, i do the same.

[@chuckaddison5134]

Boo Hiss 😂

[@Garbagejuicewaterfall]

Chicken dinner….

[@donaldvanvliet9039]

Video: - there were 20 orcas - it wasn’t really an attack - don’t like to call them killer whales. Videotitle: ‘attack of a pod of 30 killer whales’

[@marli288]

😁😂😅😂😎

[@erinbiggers7709]

Mostly peaceful killer Whales lol

[@illiadmcswain3956]

People are bullshitting themselves, they were figuring out if they could eat you...there may be no known attacks on people ....YET! We keep depleting the ocean and that may very well change

[@cjg6364]

I'm guessing the average highly endangered baby blue whale would disagree with your ignorant point of view....

[@erinbiggers7709]

@@cjg6364 phuk em, too stupid to live

[@joeydominick4762]

"I dont particularly like the idea of being kickflipped to jesus" Criminally underrated line.

[@Maxbps88]

The crazy part is if you got in the water or the dingy, the orcas would leave you alone. This is strange, but happens quite often.

[@cedricmiller4370]

Have you ever got in the water with a orca or touched one

[@oliviariv]

So this means the guy is probably right. The whales see the boats as responsible for the lack of fish, but not necessarily the humans that are on them.

[@borzoilover4156]

​@@oliviarivi think that eventually they might realise that humans are also part of the problem

[@barrygoodson4952]

I wouldn't bet on that scenario these days. Orcas are pissed off at humans and sooner or later somebody will pay dearly for that.

[@weaponizedmath4369]

"Kicked flipped to Jesus" got me....lol no rudder no steering can feel his concern

[@blackfoot7925]

Tourists walking into the wrong neighbourhood, gotta pay a toll.

[@danieljoseph255]

Lol

[@shayt543]

Truth

[@nolamonahan8764]

This made me giggle 😄

[@laurah1374]

🤣🤣🤣

[@trevorariza9550]

They forgot to check in lol

[@PurebreedFLA]

"Kicked-flipped to Jesus" caught me so off guard😂🤣🤣

[@arcticgoddess]

Haha me too 😂

[@Jughead24]

But not killer

[@julieraymond545]

Ditto... lol.

[@casket8530]

But theyre not killer whales tho 🤡

[@nadevods2431]

That actually made me laugh 😅

[@lynnemanning9553]

I'm very impressed by the narrator's and Captain's compassionate and genuine respect for the Orca's. "Maybe they like to harass boats because there's not enough fish in the ocean now, because human's eat it all"..... "At the end of the day, this is their ocean and we are visitors".....very well put and very true! A human who doesn't seem himself lording it over the Orca's but trying to understand them... Thank you!!!!

[@01blaval]

They are not intelligent in that way. They think it’s a kind of whale and that the rudder is a ”fin”.

[@feikemanting5258]

@@01blaval they are also not that stupid. The orca for sure knew this is a boat. No doubt.

[@01blaval]

@@feikemanting5258 They attack it just like they do with wales

[@jacksonsinclair2615]

Native Americans of the Pacific Northwest coexisted with orcas for thousands of years. The tribes there subsisted primarily on salmon and other fish same as the orcas. Its only been in the last 150 years that Euro Americans destroyed the ecosystem through hydroelectric dams and habitat loss on top of commercial overharvesting. Thats why the southern resident orca whales are starving because there are so few chinook salmon for them to feed on. We need to give control of the enviroment back to Native Americans honestly.

[@lynnemanning9553]

@@01blaval How would you know that?? You would have to study them for a very long time, to say they are not intelligent in that way, and even then! Your guess is kind of a long shot....

[@KarePassion]

Since the time that this incident occurred, it is now believed that the attacks are likely related to the fact that some of the Orcas have been injured by boats in these waters. They definitely want the boats to leave. It seems that they are not interested in hurting the people, because they are quite capable of it were that their intention. The government of Portugal has placed boating restrictions in this area. Don't know the latest, but I heard that there was another similar incident this past month.

[@ericstandefer9138]

That was my first thought, boaters are always getting too close, especially with damn propellers, I've seen manatees with giant propeller chunks taken out of their back. Good for the government for restricting boaters.

[@ChoctawNawtic4]

No, it's food. Food is everything and makes up their or any being's basic ability to survive.

[@leftifornian2066]

Well its our water, they better orcoff

[@KarePassion]

@@serenitysmith352 That was considered as a possibility, but it is not fully embraced as a theory. There is an issue with the fishermen, but likely not directly with the food source. I looked into it a bit more, and the most likely issue is the fact that some illegal fishing operations actually used harpoons on the whales. Otherwise, the regular fishermen don't feel that their fishing is the problem, as they have coexisted peacefully for a very long time. I would have to say that the harpooning is likely the biggest issue angering the orcas. They wouldn't take to kindly to that.

[@KarePassion]

​@@serenitysmith352 Whales have been harpooned for centuries. Most nations have outlawed it. As well, Orcas have not been traditionally among those who were harpooned. Years ago, I saw footage of a whale, I believe Sperm whale who rammed himself into a ship following the harpooning of another whale. It was not only an attack on the part of the whale, but it was an act of suicide ultimately. The theory was proposed by persons researching the possible causes for this newly observed Orca behavior. Yes, we are essentially talking about related agitation on the part of larger fishing boats. They are in the waters fishing illegally, and they have been known to illegally harpoon the Orcas as well. Also, some of the Orcas have been injured by the boats themselves, inadvertently because of heavy boat traffic. It is likely that all of these factors have played some role in driving the Orcas to such aggressive behaviors. Of concern, is the possibility that this behavior will become part of Orca culture in the area and that it will be passed from one generation to another, with no relation to the initial cause.

[@patwest1815]

That is how they disable whales by biting off the rudder/tail.

[@derricksmoke3797]

I was going to say the same thing.

[@papagena1]

I didn't know that!

[@smartcatcollarproject5699]

Yes, with rudders there is no meat or blood from the fins, so it doesn't trigger the more brutal attacks that follow against whales... let's hope it won't happen. This is a serious issue as dozens of boats have already been attacked since 2020, imagine what would happen to smaller boats ? A few years ago I spend 6 months on the Mediterranean with a 6 meters cabin boat, and although I sailed only a few miles from the coast and never saw an orca, I wouldn't do it right now !

[@patwest1815]

@@smartcatcollarproject5699 As far as I know they don't frequent the Med their isn't enough food.

[@smartcatcollarproject5699]

@@patwest1815 At least 3-4 species of whales live in the Med, also large dolphins, who are also hunted by orcas. And most attacks happened on the Atlantic side, as North as NW France, 2 weeks ago. These orcas migrate between the Med and the Atlantic, summer months in the Atlantic, winter in the Med.

[@Charlie_Ses]

I'm a marine biologist and I can tell you you're going to need a bigger boat

[@Resilio67]

I could tell the exact same thing, and I have only watched Jaws 😃

[@weaponizedmath4369]

@@Resilio67 About 1000 times since it's release in 75

[@Resilio67]

@@weaponizedmath4369 100 times is more accurate 😊

[@jshroud]

Dada…dada…..dada..dada dada dada dadadadadadadad🦈🦈

[@emiljavier6163]

Those orcas look kinda small

[@PhokenKuul]

Orca-Straited by Orcas in the Strait of Gibraltar.

[@pamelareynaud8502]

heh heh 👍

[@christopherstewart6468]

Excellent.

[@ginakleinejaeger4997]

Good one

[@SAMnELLA-1]

Well done! 🤜🤛👏👏

[@kathleengeiser6956]

I believe they are attacking these boats because they have been harmed by them through collisions. These are extremely intelligent marine mammals who form very close family ties. Just like elephants. They learn from past experiences, and pass that knowledge on to the rest of the pod. Laws need to be enacted and enforced, to keep these wonders of the oceans protected.

[@derekbates4316]

I believe they are attacking, because they're f***ing wild animals! Anyone who thinks they're their friends needs their head examined!

[@peterlewis7228]

Maybe more dumb than you think. If what you say is true they would keep "away" from boats.

[@dh88k]

Other things I wouldn't be happy about as an Orca when it comes to boats , noise pollution, fishing, oil and other crap dumping. At least the crew respected those magnificent animals.

[@derekbates4316]

@@dh88k those magnificent animals were only after one thing: meat!

[@dh88k]

@@derekbates4316 That's a possibility but I doubt that i'm talking with an expert, assumptions are usually incorrect at least an Orca told me the rate of success of eating a human by attacking a boat is 0% and added "do you think we're dumb".

[@silentvoiceinthedark5665]

I actually had two orcas save me from a hammer head during a dive, that was 24 years ago. Humans have been stealing way too much food from the orcas

[@IowaKim]

Orca's new strategy, the humans are basically soft, pink & defenseless, especially in water.

[@patrickkerner1471]

They are the Apex Predators of the Sea! Their World.

[@deloachapproach4273]

@@patrickkerner1471 Indeed - the only thing they will not mess with is a fully grown bull sperm whale. Bull sperm whales are the only thing that goes unmolested in the sea.

[@obeythestache1008]

@@patrickkerner1471 actually humans are the apex predators of the sea

[@southerneruk]

@San Tropez Also a pod of dolphins will see off killer whales

[@southerneruk]

@San Tropez They have been known to kill orcas, they charge them and hit them in the ribs and keep doing that to till the ribs collapse

[@dub1951]

No big deal just an orcward situation

[@johncnorris]

No way to know for sure but it seemed like a pack hunting demonstration for young whales to observe. We called it OJT in the military.

[@alphafitter4699]

This is the best explanation I’ve read. Like you said who knows for sure though.

[@wildandbarefoot]

Flashbang would have done the trick I think.

[@southjerseysound7340]

@@wildandbarefoot fishermen in the Pacific Northwest used to use m80s but it can damage their hearing. Usually a air horn that uses canned air right at the surface does the trick.

[@altergreenhorn]

Yes agreed, look like a nice training for the youngster how to attack a large prey. The prey(boat) going straight with the stady speed. Orcas can teach kids slowly and multiple times from the multiple angles how to attack the real prey. Chunks of the rudder were probably a mistake bites from the youngsters, namely orcas cripple a big prey by biting their fins, rudder look like a fin.

[@korylp6219]

Nothing a stun grenade and infinite stims can’t fix 😂

[@Made0nEarth]

I'm from South of Portugal, ALGARVE and I can confirm the orcas are attacking boats almost every week, nobody can explain why this... this started after the quarantine time from the pandemic of COVID and never stopped again, the regions of south Portugal, south Spain are the places this is common to append since 2 year ago...

[@jedibasschoke8909]

They probably tasted the life of little to no humans being around and want to keep it that way. Can’t say I’d blame them either.

[@Mac-dx4rd]

Why does an orca come before a human ? Maybe you think they’re nice and friendly but I’m pretty sure seals, tuna and other whales don’t think so. We are the top of the food chain most of them know it some might need to learn it also if they really wanted to sink one boat they could but they didn’t

[@OmmerSyssel]

​@@jedibasschoke8909nonsense, you are clueless! There's been leisure sailors in that area for decades.. This sort of traffic can't disturb a huge and mobile animal like Orcas in any possible way. These relatively small boats are just passing by on the surface of a huge ocean, without interfering with anything.

[@richardr1891]

In the early 1980's I was traveling with a friend on a 27 foot Bayliner power boat off the coast of Vancouver Island Canada ... we were approached by a large pod of Orca's also known as Killer Whales .... we counted 22 .. I was up on the Command Bridge so had a terrific view and it was a Sunny Day in July .... about 4 whales were coming right up to boat and "Breaching" jumping out of the water giving us look at eye level then falling back into the ocean ....felt like I could reach out and touch them ... this went on for about 10 minutes ....although most stayed 20 to 50 feet away .... I had already slowed down to about 5 knots while the entire pod stayed with us for about 40 minutes ... they never damaged the boat and it never occurred to me that they might .... these particular whales were what we call "Transient Pods" and not "Resident Pods" which tend to travel in smaller numbers and survive in a much smaller feeding ground ..... those whales you encountered were most likely "Transient" that feed off Seals and other Whales in the Antarctic then migrate north .... these pods are the ones that gave them the name "Killer" Whales .... they are more aggressive by nature ... I have had so many whale encounters over the years I still can't understand why people get so excited and post videos ... for a number of years I had a Sailboat that was docked in a Marina next to a place called Sealand ... our slip was 50 feet away from a floating "Shipping Container" where a "Killer Whale" named Tillicum was kept when it wasn't performing .... that whale drowned a young woman that was working at Sealand in the early 1990's then the whale was sold to a different larger Ocean Park in Florida where it drowned another trainer later .... I always assumed that floating metal shipping container was for storage .... was shocked when I was told it was for an Orca .... I was always sad when I had to go near it .... I completely understand why Tillicum drowned those people ...

[@semperfidelification]

You can't understand why people get excited about Orcas?

[@richardr1891]

@@semperfidelification I was referencing Orca's that do not attack ... to me they are commonplace. ..

[@semperfidelification]

@@richardr1891 Yes but you have experience as you said...99.99% of the world does not :) Yes I pulled that % out of my butt but you get it right?

[@gentrynewsom2080]

If that's an attack I've been attacked by 50 pods of dolfines and two pods of killer whales a many other whales greys..blues...false killers (pilot whales) it never bothered me I thought 🤔 it was GOODLUCK..lol

[@richardr1891]

@@gentrynewsom2080 I lived most of my life around the water and Killer Whales .... encountered them hundreds of times ... been close enough to touch them more than once .... but they were never trying to destroy my boat they were just curious or having fun ... they are intelligent creatures so if they are trying to destroy your boat they know what they are doing .... if that happens it's certainly an attack ...

[@patmcbride9853]

They obviously heard something said on the boat that was not politically correct in Orca circles.

[@jamespeek3061]

the boaters didn't realize a kraken was being released and the orcas were just trying to steer them away.

[@misterwatson3337]

Yes Orca's r very noble and when they kill u,as they do, u will feel that u would like to have lived a while longer as u watch them remove your liver and eat it. They do surgical organ removal. Your children will go on and often think of your great sacrifice

[@ErikGsson]

Dont like calling them killer whales or attacked, then dont use it in title

[@1001nancymcmillan]

Fair enough.

[@bushydray]

You'll probably find that the narrator and title editor are two different people.

[@georgeallen116]

Exactly. Was no attack. Of the killer whales. Fake news spin

[@antpoo]

It’s ok when using for click bait.

[@tonykelpie]

Human beings are unique in thinking that other species are friendly and not hostile.

[@martychamplin7793]

Unique, meaning willfully ignorant. I am less politically correct: To be politically correct is to be the devil. God bless you Dan.

[@vaina2]

look out martin the fog is coming

[@mikehoy4238]

If only one of the crew had proved the "they never kill humans in the sea" theory by jumping over the side during this attack.

[@MrJm323]

Considering what he said from 02:42 to 03:07 , I wish he HAD jumped over the side. ....He would have been practicing his own humanity-self-hatred on himself.

[@MrRainbowdash99]

@@MrJm323 then next time you see a pod of orca you should jump in and swim to them, surely you won't be the recipient of a Darwin award

[@MrJm323]

@@MrRainbowdash99 ...Your reply to me makes no sense (considering what I actually said); and, in any event, I can't see your comment when I visit the video page (your comment is for some reason being suppressed).

[@JohnnygSawyer]

Bwahahaha, "kick flipped to Jesus"... Hilarious !

[@bullybloxx8046]

Kick flipped to Jesus... 😂😂😂

[@BL-hg8bo]

Scary but def lmfao at his comment

[@alexc3477]

I came here for this comment,

[@NeoMK]

Chill, it was an Orca-stratred kick flip to Jesus. Everything was pre-planned.

[@nahaniyes]

I was dying at that too

[@michaeldose2041]

"Kick flipped to Jesus''. LOL That was a good one. Not that we typically get to plan how we meet Jesus, but I agree ''kick flipped'' followed by a swift dismemberment wound not be at the top of the list.

[@Firedog105]

This dude would get mugged and say don’t call him a mugger. Such a negative term. More like a misguided borrower officer .

[@peetky8645]

too pc for reality

[@MrJm323]

Well, considering that he expresses THIS philosophy towards life, nature, and humanity -- 02:43 to 03:07 -- I only wish he didn't fail to jump in the water and let his fellows go on with their client's yacht.

[@johnishikawa2200]

That's pretty unnerving--an animal that size, and intelligent acting aggressively toward you out there in the ocean. Those orcas clearly can do great mischief if they want to.

[@Mac-dx4rd]

Yes but not as unnerving as humans are to other animals

[@wanderingelkless]

I tend to agree that they blame humans for the disappearance of their food source. They are smart.

[@VonBluesman]

They were sending a message to all of the aquarium owners of the world, “ let my brothers and sisters go, free them now or else.” We are not playing around like those dolphins do.

[@dannycourtice]

Umm yea no they're not 🤣

[@theotheseaeagle]

@@dannycourtice it’s called sarcasm my guy ;)

[@Jughead24]

Read your comment and then think about it

[@oceancat0450]

I love this

[@oliverkraft1621]

they saw it on the tele

[@lanetterung4463]

I've heard that people also attract these whales to their boat with food, they feed them, and then wonder why they go after boats. It's the same as any wild animal...don't feed them! You are not only putting yourself in danger, but also others.

[@MW-od8vu]

I agree. People use bait to attract sharks for “research” or so customers can have a shark encounter or experience. Then scientists wonder why there is an increase in shark/people incidents! Don’t feed the animals! As simple as that!

[@spartacusronas]

We have that problem here in the Savannah/ Hilton Head area. People feeding gators and dolphins. Right up until the coast guard hands them that hefty fine. Takes the oh joy factor right out of it.

[@jdkillin8643]

i agree, i scrolled til this comment, to find some sanity. these looked more like bears or deer in a wildlife preserve that are begging for the handouts from tourists

[@BR-ng1kp]

@@spartacusronas The thing is that dolphins are curious enough & interested in people enough that you don't have to give them food for them to want to come around and hang out. I lived in Clearwater & often they would come near our boat or swim near us, and just as we would be telling the kids, "Look at the dolphins, do you see the dolphins"? They seemed to being having the same interaction with their children, 'Look at the humans, do you see the humans?" And just as they didn't offer us any food, we didn't offer them any either. We were just happy to be around each other for the experience.

[@htfanai3447]

Exactly also not only them also the Orcas too, they can hunt by themself but if we feed them many times like that they will have this as habits and normal life and can rely only on us and that is not good at all for us and also the Orcas, they are my favorite animals in the world because of their intelligents and their act together as one just like human beings needed each others on everything in this world, the only wild animals consider as a dangerous among all predators, but not towards human beings the only wild predators that really understand what human beings are, and they respect human beings and can love them too, and can create strong bonds with them too, they are so intelligents and wild but very gentle when it comes to human beings even if they are among predetors list by they will never be a real threat towards human beings because they understand....

[@maryreed4534]

They lost some members of their family, a few months ago. It was collisions with tourist boats. Orcas are not, by nature, vicious to humans.

[@the5thelement158]

Yes, thank you...😥🙏🏽🖤

[@Jughead24]

Perhaps if you consoled them

[@jhtsurvival]

Maybe they shouldn't cross the ocean in front of a ship then. Everyone says they're so smart but apparently not

[@GPunkt91]

@@jhtsurvival You know nothing about Orcas, Boats and Physics. Your whole comment is an absolute insult to every marine mammal, if you have in mind what mankind did to the Ocean especially to Whales in the last 150 years...

[@passengershamingparody]

@@jhtsurvival the ship is in THEIR hood, sis.

[@lordhriley]

now why would you deploy a life boat in a pod of thirty orcas angry at you?

[@anomicangora4206]

Judging by the ignorance and lack of maturity exhibited in some of these comments, maybe it would be a good idea for the orcas to take over. Heaven help us if this is the best humanity has to offer!

[@bennettlewis5495]

This is what happens when we teach a pod of orcas that boats are feeding stations.

[@altergreenhorn]

Don't think so, look like a nice training for the youngster how to attack a large prey. The prey(boat) going straight with the stady speed. the orcas can teach kids slowly and multiple times from the multiple angles how to attack the real prey. Chunks of the rudder were probably a mistake bites from the youngsters, namely orcas cripple a big prey by biting their fins, rudder look like a fin.

[@yourflight3648]

@@altergreenhorn no one can tell if its training for the juveniles lack of food seems possible but there are boats unfit of sea crammed with poor souls i hope that doesnt happen or they have learned to get food that way.. scary ..

[@zendesigner]

@@yourflight3648 well the pour souls that all want economic migration and live of our taxes in europe should beware then....

[@OmmerSyssel]

No sailors are busy feeding Orcas while underway in open sea.. Clueless city dweller

[@josiahpeters7943]

Kicked Flipped to Jesus 😭

[@debraolivier2147]

😄😄😄what a way to go!

[@hagarthehorrilbe6668]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@susanbrown2909]

I bet they would ,once they dragged u down to drown u..eating your liver then went for a goal flip lol.

[@the5thelement158]

This pod is endangered and measures to protect them needs to be enforced. They are trying to protect their home and their safety. Noise pollution from the boats make it harder to find food. And overfishing is causing this pod great amounts of stress. There have been articles by biologists on this exact pod regarding this situation. I hope the people in this location take greater care and measures to help this pod of dwindling giants. Grateful this boat was aware and understanding of the reality of the situation.

[@vodkarage8227]

Guess humans are making a new enemy, not a surprise. Hope the orcas win.

[@pescatoralpursuit1726]

Maybe it's a rogue pod being mischaracterized by sympathetic researchers?

[@vodkarage8227]

@@pescatoralpursuit1726 I doubt it, I mean, orcas have been proven to quickly adapt in order to catch known prey. As smart as they are, it wouldn't be a surprise if they figured out humans are also edible. Humans deserve to be on the food chain for how they have hogged all the resources so selfishly. We waste so much food as a species it is depressing. We just waste anything and everything really.

[@pescatoralpursuit1726]

@@vodkarage8227 you do know orcas will kill for sport? Listen to what you write. You can't be taken seriously with that stuff.

[@vodkarage8227]

@@pescatoralpursuit1726 And how does that change anything I said. Lets see, orcas waste food as you say, "they kill for sport." Lets compare the number of orcas vs the number of humans, who makes the bigger impact. Now lets look at cognitive reasoning. Do orcas understand the impact their waste has on the environment? No. Do humans? Yes. So if humans understand what they are doing, and continue to do it, by reason, they deserve the consequences, which in this case, might be leading to them being added to the orcas menu. Maybe if you actually thought things out you might be able to understand what I was saying.

[@bradz9413]

Orcas haven’t killed a person in the wild for decades or more . I appreciate the captain has the immense respect these brilliant beasts (and human protectors) deserve!

[@Greg_Chase]

PROJECTILES. Bean bags, crustacean shell packets, etc. Mammals are very disoriented when they feel the 'sting' of a projectile impacting them and they detect no predator close enough to inflict the sting. This works with bears, big cats, large breed dogs (I have personal experience with those), etc. The temporary sting does no lasting damage, so it is a humane method to trigger their 'flight' instinct ('fight or flight') The projectiles rob the animal's ability to identify and assess the 'attacker' - they see no attacker. In their world, the animal world, there ARE no projectiles - if a stinging pain is inflicted, in their world, another animal had to get close enough to inflict it, which would allow them to size up the other animal and decide whether to fight or not. "Projectiles coming out of nowhere" - in the animal world, they know the pain is there, they don't know why they feel the pain ("there is no attacker near me"), so they associate the pain with the location they are in and LEAVE THE LOCATION. Co-existence can sometimes require brief, human-cleverness-inspired fending off. There is a business to develop and sell 'encounter-ending' projectile launchers. . .

[@leonardlloyd1089]

Arrrg captain, we're going to need a bigger pair of shorts!!!

[@littleroo340]

Hahaha 🤣

[@cujo6970]

Yep, I'd be "chumming" the water for sure lol.

[@dragonflytoo]

Sometimes the Orcas follow the tuna boats and wait for a fish on line, eat it before the fishermen can get the tuna up.

[@RE4LW4LL4CE]

Well shhhhit thanks for that news update

[@granthostheflatulent]

I had a far more minor experience but it put the orca incident into perspective for me. I was crewing on a Sigma 36 yacht racing in Portland Harbour (UK) when 4 or 5 dolphins appeared. The first we knew of their presence was feeling the back of the boat rise and the rudder clonked upwards on its bearings (big boat but tiller steered). We thought we'd hit something underwater then up popped the first dolphin. They seemed to take turns knocking the rudder upwards - I wondered if they were scratching their backs. Pretty harmless (and we did OK in the race btw) - but the power and force these dolphins exerted on the boat was astonishing. A pod of Orca's off shore must have been bloody terrifying. At certain speeds you can get a vibration off the rudder if the shape is a little off (noticed it on one of my own sailing dinghies before my late dad re-profiled the blade) I wonder if something like that was attracting/bothering them.

[@luke_skywanker7643]

In Charlotte Harbor (Florida) I've had them do the same thing to the dagger board on my sail board. They'd actually lift it slightly in the water and cause it to go about twice as fast as I was sailing. The first couple of times it was a bit unnerving because I was worried about getting knocked off balance and falling in to be shark food. But, when it turned out they were dolphin, it was OK with me. They were just playing.

[@NoneofyourBusiness-gy9yw]

stop believing that these animal will not consume you as food. if they are hungry they will and a pod of 30 is alot of hungry mouths to feed.

[@Readysetgo2007]

​@@luke_skywanker7643 Maybe still best to stay on the boat. :P

[@GavinMorris1]

@@NoneofyourBusiness-gy9yw Has this ever happened?

[@DavidOfWhitehills]

@@GavinMorris1 Not one soul lived to tell the horrible tale, haharrrrr, Jim lad!

[@trishannbell5508]

Why don't the European countries stop overfishing? Don't they monitor their fishing practices? It pisses me off, the disregard..

[@BeyondOurSolarSystem]

They're not killer whales ...they're whale killing dolphins

[@kmmining1359]

lot of exaggeration going on here... if they bit the rudder completely off, the boat would not have sunk... they didn't damage the rudder nearly enough for you to have to "limp" into the port of giralta.. they were playing not attacking, if they were attacking you would have no video.

[@gillesturcotte5661]

@@spensinthevalley3099 . Are Evans' mother , or agent ?

[@kimjongmill4445]

Clearly not well versed in rudder mechanisms. The rudder is coupled to the hull through a rudder post. In the occassion of strong lateral force on the rudder, the hull will likely crack from the force on the rudder post long before the rudder snaps off. Not to mention damage to the shaft seal, loosened rudder post, or even complete loss of rudder post. All of these cause water intrusion. Thus risk of sinking. Rudder and keel collisions are very susceptible to cause water intrusion and compromise the hull. The captain did the right thing to explore his worst case scenarios and to prepare himself and his crew. Water intrusion from rudder damage is more common than you'd think. Boats sinking from sea mammal collisions although uncommon, do happen.

[@spensinthevalley3099]

@@kimjongmill4445 lol yet still took a lot of lateral force and broke chunks off the fiberglass rudder. I hope the designers are smart enough to make the fiberglass rudder shatter before any impact on the hull.

[@kimjongmill4445]

@@spensinthevalley3099 Yes in a perfect world this is true. But it is not always practical. The rudder post is a stainless steel shaft, which usually wins over a standard fiberglass hull. Even if the hull could withstand it, if the whole rudder snaps off, depending on design it can take the whole post with it. Now you have a hole in your boat where your rudder post used to be. Even those huge bering sea crabbing boats shit their pants if they so much as have a loose rudder post, which can be caused purely from sea state, no collision needed. There is no way of knowing exactly how much force your rudder post and hull can take until you hit something, and it depends a lot on angle, point of contact and velocity. I've seen rudders shatter crashing into a reef in a storm and the hull is fine. And I've seen another boat tap the edge of their rudder into a rock and compromise their hull. It's best to err on the side of caution.

[@spensinthevalley3099]

@@kimjongmill4445 I definitely overlooked some things as well as my original post contradicting itself. Did to many connections between a outboard motor and a rudder on a sail boat.

[@garyverstick1620]

Maybe ‘Orcas rub boat’s rudder’ might be better title than “British crew are attacked by 30 killer whales”?

[@americanbornwalkaway9110]

THEY Tried to EAT the Rudder!

[@d.e303-anewlowcosthomebuil7]

@@americanbornwalkaway9110 it looked tasty

[@kevindinsmore2556]

You obviously struggle with comprehending what the narrator said. Try listening more and typing less.

[@Watchout1010]

Your boat is creating a hostile frequency to them.

[@renz6913]

Ridiculous....please explain what interference is coming from a sailing boat

[@Watchout1010]

​@@renz6913are you dumb?in the beginning we will shut the engine off!!

[@Watchout1010]

@@renz6913 ridiculous is someone so dumb they said they would shut the engine off

[@kallekula84]

You're just making the claim up, you're extremely arrogant to think you know the why's of pods of Orcas.

[@renz6913]

Any sailors here or only haters eating popcorn behind their screen?

[@dandare301]

Sounds like a legitimately uncomfortable experience. Having said that, they did not make off with the rudder as the introductory comments indicate....

[@mrx0088]

They eat fiberglass because someone must have told them that eating fiber is good for the body

[@theraven5935]

This happens because fishermen fishing for tuna fire at orcas with shotguns in the street of gibraltar. And so orcas attack boats(specially size of these fishing vessels - 9 to 20 meters) to protect their youngsters.

[@comfortablynumb9342]

I would get out my slingshot and ice for ammo. That should be painful enough to discourage the orcas without causing any damage to them. Letting them destroy the rudder is not in my plan book.

[@magicalminty6203]

Honestly I think that would just piss them off.

[@joeynice123]

Yeah.... 20 pissed orcas and fiberglass

[@kkeelty64]

They seemed curious and interacted in a way that seemed like play. They way to discourage that is to stop. Reef the sails and turn off the engine, the Orca will lose interest and move on.

[@mlight6845]

As if you could protect the rudder.

[@serge470]

@@kkeelty64 biting the rudder off and behaving very aggressively you called "curious"?? Get out!..

[@TooMuch637]

“I don’t like the word attack or the term killer whales.” Newsflare: Perfect! We’ll use those clickbaity terms because we done have a spine!

[@IowaKim]

I thought it was going to be clickbait, but I was wrong, they did bite off chunks from the boat.

[@AndrewD624]

The correct name is "whale killer", because they kill whales. The name has been incorrectly changed over time

[@orwellknew9112]

Andrew D I thought it was Orca.

[@AndrewD624]

@@orwellknew9112 Yes orca or Orcinus orca is the scientific name

[@ericmichel3857]

But they did attack this boat, and they are whales that kill. So while he might not like the terms, they were accurate in this case. I have never seen or heard of Orca's going after a boat like this before and have to wonder what was the intention? Were they hoping to get the sailors into the dingy and then into the water for food? or as the narrator suggests attacking the boat because they see it as competition for limited food? from what I have seen of Orca's I would say the former. Actual fishing boats are far to large and made of steel so nothing they can do about those, and these guys weren't fishing so... While they don't normally attack humans, I suppose if they get hungry and desperate enough... This was not click bait from what I can see.

[@simonlomas7375]

If you look close they are only protecting their young as you can see young with them. If a pod of 30 ( a little bit of a fisherman's tale there I think) really attacked the boat they will have sunk it. 2 or 3 adult Orca's will make mincemeat of a yacht if they wanted too. All they are doing is trying to keep the yacht away from their young.

[@bablu9002]

if this behavior continues then those whales are in trouble. I hope they are smart enough to know the apex predator in the world. guess what! it's not them!

[@cryptozoomauler5505]

Glad you got the boat turned around and could fix the rudder - with all on board still safe and intact.

[@derrtyd37]

The whales are starting a counter attack in response to us holding some of their own captive

[@kylebelafonte3722]

They're not whales, they're Orca

[@jperiodchapin]

These might be alternative lifestyle whales and have developed a taste for seamen.

[@alexvernes9264]

These animals are really clever. They noticed that the rudder was the weak point of a boat.

[@Iwant2help]

I’m not disagreeing w you that they are extremely clever animals but I would say w confidence that it’s pretty far fetched to say that they deduced w any sort of reasoning that the rudder was the weak link and that’s why they went for it… The bottom of the boat is made up of a curved fiberglass that would be impossible to bite, it would be like if you tried to take a bite out of a bowling ball lol no human mouth is big enough to be able to get a grip on a big hard round object like that, just as the smooth hard bottom of the boat would be impossible for even the largest of Orcas to take a bite out of. Now the protruding rudder on the other hand is not only of perfect shape to fit into an Orcas mouth but it also moves side to side as if to say “hey I’m bite size and right here catch me if ya can” lol They say Orcas are the puppy’s of the sea and if this analogy rings true at all, than the not only hungry but naturally inquisitive and playful Orcas that they are just happened upon a big moving chew toy that also just happens to be of similar size to a baby whale that the Orca adults could use to their advantage as a little practice and training for the younger pod members to not only hone in on their hunting skills but also it gives all of them some family bonding time to work out the continually changing and adapting pecking order of the family dynamics, not to mention it’s probably a good bit of fun for an otherwise boring section of the fish less sea they just happened to find themselves in that day🤗🤙

[@craigdavidson4845]

Orca attack the tail of whales and dolphins so it seems to me they just identified the rudder as the "tail" of this creature boat.

[@vecarter569]

@@Iwant2help Excellent analysis! I totally agree with your points. Also, the varying sizes of these boats and other human sea crafts (especially those nearer to coastal shores) probably foster their hunting methods as well...and curiosity of understanding how the strange creatures (humans) use the strange sea travel objects. Also, observing the humans and the interesting sounds and interactions humans make. Probably is additional intellect stimulation to orcas...from their normal routine.

[@hooblajoobla6969]

They are more than clever lol highly intelligent with 🧠s double the size of åh human, making us the dumb ones

[@realzhella6817]

If I saw them doing that, it would be raining blood in that ocean one shot at a time. No mercy

[@davidcabreonmunoz6258]

As a guy raised in a family with a long tradition of fishing, I can assure you that these animals are no match for any speargun.

[@barowt]

I'm thinking previously, something happened to this pod with a boat and maybe one of their own was killed.. and they are taking revenge..

[@kyleabingdon6323]

They could have sunk the boat if they wanted to. Boats have been sunk in the past by orcas ramming into the side. (GRP and timber boats.) I think they were probably teaching their young/ practicing how to take down a large whale as that is what they do to incapacitate a whale. They bite of its flippers first.

[@weaponizedmath4369]

See how they can "Kick flip" this moment into "global warming" issues

[@100bgeagle]

Reminds me of packs of killer whales stocking/attacking a whale!

[@francismallard5892]

“This was a bit more orchestrated…’orca-strated’…”. I see what you did there.

[@dallassegno]

Still waiting to see any evidence of an attack

[@sirjames26]

That rudder although damaged is still perfectly functional, only a small piece was missing.

[@paulmarston1]

@@Johnnyprc better that treatment be given to you! Don’t breed please!

[@JohnnygSawyer]

@@Johnnyprc It's just not going to happen, this isn't Hollywood 😐

[@frankpolo2088]

@@Johnnyprc ...what is the big deal,there are too many humans already.

[@johnthomson8332]

@@frankpolo2088 You can fit all the people of the world in the state of Texas, comfortably, so you really have no idea what your talking about.

[@davidc2838]

@@johnthomson8332 That's an idiotic statement. No you cannot. Don't use bad math coupled with a lack of common sense. And we're already seeing environmental depletion caused by humans in our oceans, forests, Clean / Fresh Water and a myriad of other natural resources.

[@maudclaud6132]

It’s a popular route for asylum seekers on dodgy boats that often sink - I wonder if they have learned this behaviour from picking off some of these

[@dnomyarnostaw]

That's a sobering thought, very possibly true

[@cjg6364]

Not exactly rocket science. Humans swimming above a pod of hungry orca 50 miles out to sea after their boat was capsized or holed generally = no survivors to recount what happened for the local TV network news broadcast....

[@alphafitter4699]

Ya but there has never been any evidence of an attack in the wild on humans from Orca’s.

[@cjg6364]

@@alphafitter4699 If a killer whale eats a human 50 miles out to sea and nobody records it, did the human still get eaten? There are records of at least 4 killings of humans by killer whales in captivity. I don't think it's too far fetched to assume that since they are good at hunting and killing other mammals in their usual haunts, there is a strong likelihood that humans have fallen victim to killer whale attacks in situations where it wasn't observed/recorded by anyone and there was little to no evidence left behind after the fact. Even if they don't eat you, there's a good chance they'll kill you if they sink your boat 150 miles out to sea and you freeze to death shortly thereafter in 40 degree F water. There are multiple accounts of smaller sailing vessels being sunk by Orca. As such, they are a nuisance that needs to be dealt with. It's not "their" ocean any more than it's our ocean - we share it with every other creature on the planet and like all living things, Orca will yield when they encounter an animal that's higher up in the food chain - namely INTELLIGENT humans. The dumbies among us will thankfully wind up as Darwinian statistics leaving unused oxygen behind for those humans who know how to put it to better use.

[@choudhury9265]

That's truly morbid

[@apburner1]

We were being attacked by a large pod of killer whales... so I dropped the sail and stopped in the middle of them.

[@shecat1964]

The reason for this was to become less interesting or boring to bother with. With the motor on and moving, they became a noisy toy they can keep chasing, So they sit quietly the whales get bored and leave. And that is what happened. There is no way to out run them in that boat, you just keep their attention and they love the chase. Killer whales have been known to play with their food before eating. Plus boaters are always told to shut motors off if there are whales around, to prevent hurting them. If one of them had been struck and injured you then have a panicked whale and blood in the water and their instinct to attack is off the charts.

[@mammoth505]

@@shecat1964 That is BULLSHIT!! It has NEVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY Of SHARING THIS PLANET WITH ORCAS!!! NO HUMAN ATTACK!!

[@alexnope2223]

@@mammoth505 orcas have absolutely caused the sinking of watercraft. They haven't directly attacked a human. But they have sunk boats.

[@Audfile]

@@mammoth505 orcas are the scourge of the ocean, they snap up every person they see, thats why you never hear about it

[@MyraBell-i8q]

They aren't attacking, they're playing. They don't attack or revenge. Animals don't revenge.

[@missydavis6678]

Competition. Next time carry frozen tuna with you. They'll remember.

[@Justtellmetheanswer6910]

They wouldn’t attack a Japanese whaling ship.

[@misterwatson3337]

They work for the Japanese. The Japanese r very noble.

[@ronsummers4090]

I read a recount of an incident in the Pacific where a family survived after their sailing boat was attacked and sank by Orka’s. The actual incident took less than a few minutes but everyone survived even after many days in a dingy. Believe it was titled survive the savage sea (or ocean) but the Orka’s did not attack the humans only the boat.

[@awuma]

That's "Survive the Savage Sea" by Dougal Robertson, the sinking occurring in 1972. A similar incident is described in "66 Days Adrift" by William Butler (happened in 1989), again in the eastern equatorial Pacific. And there's yet another story like this in the same area, "117 Days Adrift" by Maurice and Maralyn Bailey (happened in 1973).

[@ronsummers4090]

@@awuma thanks for the info. It originally caught my attention because I spent my formative years in what was called the Gilbert Islands. It’s a good book, reads account.

[@RE4LW4LL4CE]

The word is orca, Einstein

[@fiveo9127]

I watched a video of a woman on a paddle board and a mom and two calves swam all around her, under her they were so graceful and without incident. The woman knew they were there and she was as calm as the whales. It was a beautiful sight.

[@Jughead24]

That's because they are kind, intelligent and caring. I once had an interesting conversation with an orca...it was so smart and witty......idiot

[@spartacusronas]

Your attitude about it was spot on!!! A bit concerning but clearly had they made the decision to really damage the boat they could have. Good on you!

[@SherLock55]

Yeah this wasn't an attack, far from it. They were playing and having a good time it seems. You need to remember these are 3000Kg monsters, 20ft long in some cases and believe me up close they are absolutely enormous. If they wanted to they could have sunk this boat with very little effort.

[@DumphUxTV]

They might’ve just been escorting them out of their zone. Fishing lines can harm their babies and this can understandably make them upset.

[@justsomeguy6474]

@@SherLock55 None of that is true. They are trying to kill the boat and they keep biting what steers it because they know that will stop it.

[@jjakfamily]

I was on a small 6pack boat fishin for Halibut and King Salmon in Alaska when a smaller pod maybe 8 to 10 started trying to rock our boat hoping to knock someone off of the boat. Just like they do the seals on a floating piece of ice. It was an amazing experience but also eye opening as to who's world we were in at the time.

[@johanliebert6625]

wait, arent they just being friendly? They're intelligent. That is why they don't make us as their enemies

[@jjakfamily]

Yeah no we had some over for a game of Uno later. It was amazing!!! You should've been there!!!

[@marciabarreto780]

@@jjakfamily LOL!!!!!

[@sirzembla4512]

Ya'll guys were on the verge of dying that day , from now on please forget the small boats in this region ... Peace .

[@OmmerSyssel]

Doesn't make sense. If Orcas lately started preying on sailors there would be endless examples of wrecked vessels and dead sailors. They are very strong and intelligent enough to sink your vessel if they actually wanted to eat you... Fact is they are deliberately sinking sailing boats, but leaving the crew in the rescue dingy undisturbed. Keep your immature Hollywood fantasies under control..

[@rfmlets6713]

They are clever enough to realise that we are screwing up their environment.

[@TheAgentAssassin]

No we're not , the earth is fine man. We don't have the power we think we do.

[@phapnui]

Ocean Trolls. You need to pay with fish.

[@mintysingularity]

My first thought is they were behaving like a flock of pigeons, having learned that boats often mean food. Once they got your attention and no food was forthcoming they f'k'd right off.

[@elizabethvandecoevering6042]

Pissed off hungry Orcas deciding to attacking a boat that was just pasting by and we could all blame the overfishing of the Orcas' main prey for those attacks, and people need to stop overfishing the oceans and seas which in turn could lead to Orcas slowly starving to death when they could not find their normal main prey like tuna, cod, and salmon.

[@mintysingularity]

@@elizabethvandecoevering6042 in error, you make far too many assumptions: 1) that they are pissed off; 2) they were "attacking" with malice; 3) that it has anything to do with fishing.

[@elizabethvandecoevering6042]

@@mintysingularity Overfishing is the main factor in what has drove that Orca pod into attacking the boat while most Orca don't attack boats, but have fun swimming in the wake of large boats.

[@wolfhunter6711]

@@elizabethvandecoevering6042 So you know what Orcas are thinking? Your delusions are only overshadowed by your sense of self importance.

[@williamcrawford805]

The orcas here occasionally grab large hooked fish off lines. They wait for the fisherman to do most of the work

[@weinerdog137]

First time I have ever seen what looks like malevolent behavior from orcas.

[@newkidontheblockism]

Orca- “hey buddy, a piece of your rudder fell off back their but Harold grabbed it for you, hey, HEY, HELLO!!!, what a jerk!!”

[@jonibarger3147]

The boat wasnt *attacked* and neither was the crew. They just wanted the rudder.

[@BoffinGrusky]

Tell me again why you stopped the boat??

[@tonybarnes3858]

In case the engine noise was aggravating them.

[@hossjulia]

They just turned the engines off. It's a sailboat.

[@shinebabyshine.]

I’m happy they made it to shore safely, but I’m not mad at them for doing this. They’re much more intelligent than we give them credit for. They know something on Earth is off balance and that we, humans, have something to do with it

[@madisonl3116]

Recording me running back telling what I said like I can't saY it in folks face is crazy 😂😂😂 Guess she upgraded from putting her ear on my door to THEM recording lol welp at least I'm getting my voucher

[@Jughead24]

Right, we. Should include them in climate talks.....

[@ithewho6603]

Or people have been feeding them and they came for food...

[@mr.annoying9453]

i would throw a line in and catch one for breakfast. never had killer whale steaks. personally im very annoyed at this pod

[@chickenfist1554]

@@mr.annoying9453 You wouldn't be catching sh!t. They'd yank you overboard and tail punt you to the clouds if they felt like it. Another id!ot bumping their gums!

[@mrdavinci4178]

The nature is fighting back

[@NYGOLD]

Maybe the boat was emitting a frequency that the Killer whales didn't like.

[@johnlennox-pe2nq]

over the top title - monetizing click bait

[@jabreck1934]

The same thing happened to my family many years ago. Except We were in an 18 foot motor boat. Large waves were flooding the boat. We put up the tarp and began bailing water. I remember throwing up and bailing water at the same time . The motor died and we were unable to keep the bow into the waves. It’s a miracle we did not capsize into the pod of killer whales. I was about 10 years old.

[@gloriaroma-sandiegorealest4037]

Do yo still go where there are whales? Glad our family survived. 😅

[@jabreck1934]

@@gloriaroma-sandiegorealest4037 It was a summer vacation. Going from Washington to Vancouver. I am around whales in the channel Islands district now. Always see them during migration. A few years ago,A whale came so close to shore once that I called Marine Mamal rescue. I thought it was sick. It was fine. Every summer I assist Marine Mamal rescue with baby elephant seal issues. People and their dogs! They just need some sunlight and warmth. The sun goes down, they go back in the water Hundred percent success this year

[@b_uppy]

We were in a bay in a small boat. My mom screamed until dad started the boat and sent the boat in. They ignored us, and were well away. Didn't matter. Mom was certain we were destined for death. Dad sold the boat, that was it.

[@Jughead24]

Sue for parental abuse

[@yxvm]

Killer whales eat people?

[@biggest23]

Racing offshore around NZ, we'd occasionally have pods of dolphins turn up and "assertively" begin pushing the rudder around from below. We had a tiller rather than a wheel, on an 11m yacht (A Young 11 design to be specific) and even with three burly characters trying to hold it steady, we couldn't stop them steering us around when it took their fancy. No biting of the rudder though.

[@rs5570]

Astounding!!!

[@biggest23]

@@quartuppkachupp ….I think they were just being insatiably curious mammals, testing the properties of everything they came across. There’s not much to look at or play with out there mate, so they seem to take full advantage of anything that’s even remotely interesting that hoves in to view.

[@Escapetosea]

Lose your rudder, lose your boat. Clearly it’s your privilege. Consider your rudder reperations. Good luck sv beta.

[@spider0804]

Anyone who can balance a boat on sails alone to keep a course would like a word.

[@rollinontwojohnny3586]

First of all, why did you say “we have created the tuna shortage problem”? Secondly, they don’t want fishing vessels nearby.

[@sonoman00ify]

Im no Orca expert, but I know they are very intelligent and have deep feelings. I believe a boat killed a member of their pod and they are teying to get revenge. Beautiful creatures. The workers at Seaworld got what they deserved for keeping these majestic animals in fucking seimming pools.

[@Jughead24]

Give me an example of these deep feelings. Revenge is a human concept.....feed yourself to them to show your remorse

[@Necromitzu1]

@@Jughead24 Actually it's very likely that Orcas are more emotionally complex than humans are, look it up. I wouldn't be surprised if they felt an emotional need for vengeance just like we do, the only reason they wouldn't act on it (assuming they don't) is because unlike us they don't have access to healthcare - an injury that can be remedied by a simple trip to a hospital for us can often be a death sentence for just about every other animal so revenge just isn't worth the risk most of the time.

[@Jughead24]

@@Necromitzu1 can you provide an example of this emotional complexity? Not a theory but an example. Personification and species loathing is a real issue in modern society. I am, however, not always right, nor opposed to learning.

[@Necromitzu1]

@@Jughead24 It's difficult to prove emotional complexity empirically for multiple reasons, the most obvious being we can't actually talk to orcas otherwise we could just ask them. Another is that if an animal has more complex emotions than we do, it's difficult for us to even comprehend what those emotions would entail, in the same way an ant cannot possibly comprehend the way we think. That's why I said "likely", as to why that's the case there's been research via brain scans that's found that regions of the brain in orcas that deal with emotional activity are larger and more complex than those in humans. As to whether or not that actually leads to more emotional complexity there's no way to know for sure, but it seems likely. We know from their behaviours they show complex emotions that at least rival our own though, such as grieving the death of family members - sometimes even to the point of putting their own health at risk. They've also shown similar behaviours to depressed humans when held in captivity. We know that they give each other unique names much like we do, they have different dialects depending on where they're born, complex family structures and so on. The more I learn it seems that the main thing separating us is that our ability to use tools and thus shape our environment is unrivalled. If Orcas had the ability to use tools to the extent that we can I wouldn't be surprised if they took control of the sea and built civilisations like we've done on land.

[@Jughead24]

@@Necromitzu1 interesting and informative reply...thanks

[@dainguyen784]

You always got these people saying oh they're harmless never hurt no one. Well if they did, we wouldn't know about it because that person probly wont make it back to shore on a smaller boat to tell about it, like these guys.

[@kylebelafonte3722]

This is a dumb comment

[@OmmerSyssel]

On the Norwegian coast people are yearly swimming with hunting Orcas without anyone being attacked. There is radios available on all boats nowadays, if anyone were attacked Mayday would have been heard. You have no clue about maritime reality

[@gary8491]

There was a pod of 9 community orca's all female's around Scotland West Coast. Mallaig in 2019. When I was on a sailing boat. The orca's came close to the sailing vessel. As close as the orca's on your film. They were looking for seal's. I wouldn't worry.

[@bjm6275]

No, they would not attack the boat if they were simply looking for seals. They seemed to be trying to incapacitate the boat by breaking up the rudder.

[@southjerseysound7340]

@@bjm6275 they hunt seals by knocking them off of ice this way. At this point those people look like seals and definitely could become a meal. It's happened to fishermen in the Pacific Northwest but they usually scare them off with guns and loud noises.

[@davidc2838]

@@Johnnyprc Sorry dum dum...NOT hunting humans...they could go pick people off a beach much easier. Don't be obtuse. They are expressing TERRITORIAL statements. Probably attacked by humans...or one of their pod was run over by a ship / boat and severely injured or killed.

[@davidc2838]

@@Johnnyprc These are all off the coast of Portugal and Spain. It's only an hour (or two) swim for an Orca and they could be off any Portuguese or Spanish Beach. Many, Many orca travel much further than that. These particular orcas migrate up and down the costs of Portugal and Spain constantly. They could pull up to any beach they wanted. Read a couple of articles recently and the scientists who have studied these orcas in great detail say it's a few male juveniles (teenagers) that do most of the 'attacks / rough play". Can identify them by their markings, fairly easily. They are Tuna Eaters...and not interested in Seals OR Humans on their diets.

[@bjm6275]

@@southjerseysound7340 No, this is most likely a revenge attack, which only amounts to harassment. Orcas know the different between a moving boat with humans on it from floating ice with a seal or seals on it. Don't insult their eyesight and intelligence. They knew exactly what they were doing and to whom. Those on the boat likely were just the available humans at the time but something previously from human activity must have deeply disturbed or angered them. Orcas have only been observed attacking humans when humans have mistreated them or harmed them.

[@rolftraupe9058]

You probably motored straight through their occupied space, rude as humans typically are. Then they had some harmless fun with your boat. From where they stand, you had it coming.

[@mnordman2007]

Right, and you know the orca mind by way of mind melding no doubt, probably.

[@rolftraupe9058]

@@mnordman2007 No mindreading necessary! Orcas in the wild are not agressive to humans or their technical crutches. However they consider a certain space around the pod as "private", just as a person has a certain private space around him/herself. If you violate that space, all bets are off. Orcas are also intelligent, strong and heavy enough to do much more damage than take a piece of rudder off. That was a playful friendly warning. Also, probably no mindmeld necessary, just a little bit of matter interest...

[@mnordman2007]

@@rolftraupe9058 Orcas off the coast of Spain and Portugal have been exhibiting this curiously aggressive behavior towards ships for the last year or two. This incident is not the first of it's kind. Nobody knows why just yet they've started doing this. It's a bit of a mystery.

[@rolftraupe9058]

@@mnordman2007 That is interesting. Thanks for the info.

[@mnordman2007]

@@rolftraupe9058 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_whale_attack#2020s "From July to October 2020 there were at least forty reliable reports of orcas attacking boats off the Atlantic coast of Portugal and Spain, unusual and unprecedented behaviour. The nudging, biting and ramming attacks, on medium-size sailing boats sailing at moderate speed, concentrated on the rudder, with some impacts on the hull. A small group of orcas are believed to be responsible, with three juveniles which have been named black Gladis, white Gladis and grey Gladis, identified as present in most attacks. No people were injured. The Portuguese coastguard banned small sailing vessels from a region where several incidents had been reported. It is thought that the behaviour is playful, rather than aggressive or vengeful.[24]"

[@Celisar1]

These are not killer whales, these are orcas. And their behaviour is unusual.

[@kilipaki87oritahiti]

Ironically the Orca is not a whale, but a type of dolphin actually…

[@ken244]

it makes me think of the way they attack other whales, not the first boat to be attacked by killer whales. A sail boat was claimed to be sunk by them back in the 70s and a family was marooned at sea for quite some time before being rescued/found adrift.

[@Mac-dx4rd]

50 years ago ? I’m not sure any of them saw that but they probably did see boats feeding them in their lifetime !

[@nessunodorme3888]

I read their book about their experience and those orcas seemed to be deliberately trying to sink their boat. If I remember right, one of them smashed through the bottom off the boat so hard part of his head was visible. However, they did not bother the people once the boat sank and the family was crowded into their lifeboat.

[@Voltomess]

@@nessunodorme3888 wow this is really weird that they didn't eat them, that makes me wonder if those orcas are inteligent enough to know that boats steal their food? so they attack because they think they might get a lot of fish from that ?

[@nessunodorme3888]

@@Voltomess Oh, I think they definitely know fishing boats are depleting a food source but I don't think it's why they attack sailboats. But the family I read about weren't even fishing. I don't think anyone knows just why they did what they did. Whatever their reasons, they may be very complex and, luckily, the experience of the family whose yacht was sunk by orcas is kind of an outlier. I do remember reading how, once the people hit the water in their lifeboat, they were terrified the orcas would finish them off but they were already long gone. They definitely weren't trying to eat the people. But orcas know very well what humans are up to in the oceans and they also have a sense of what's right or fair. Have you ever heard the story of a killer whale named "Jack" (I think)? He was part of a killer whale pod off the coast of Australia in the 1800s that cooperated with some whalers in a town there. The orcas had some way of alerting the whalers when they'd driven a big whale close to the shore. Then the whalers came out and got in their ships as the orcas herded their quarry toward the whalers to let them harpoon it, eventually kill it and begin to process it. As payment, the first thing the men did was cut out the whale's enormous tongue and give it to the waiting orcas. It was known as "The law of the tongue" and this cooperation went on for years. Eventually, the whalers tried to stiff their orca partners by keeping the tongue and starting to head back home. That's when the orca named Jack got ahold of a thick rope attached to the ship and, holding it in his mouth, tried to stop the ship -- even starting to pull it backwards! But, ultimately, he couldn't prevent them leaving and the orcas never again cooperated with those whalers. Poor Jack, it seems, lost a tooth pulling on the rope, which led to an abscess that eventually killed him. His skeleton is on display at a museum in the town. Orcas are more than a little intelligent and have reasons for everything they do, whether we can discern those reasons or not.

[@Voltomess]

@@nessunodorme3888 wow what an interesting story , I never heard about that it sounds like a story form the book, but knowing it was true make it really exciting, aren't orcas in the same family as dolphins? I wouldn't be surprised if they are.

[@mysticflyer2403]

I think they are reacting to the boat as if it is a whale. the bites on the rudder are what they do when hunting whale. they can see the mast and sails but somehow they are confused.

[@chronic2001n]

they bite everything they eat...and no, they know it's not a whale.

[@chrismcknight8925]

Orcas are very smart they know the difference between a boat and a whale. I'm pretty sure if one of them fell off that boat they probably would of had that person for dinner. Prey is getting harder and harder to find cuz of man that's why we are having more shark attacks. Predators in the ocean are starting to see us as food cuz we are over fishing and we are stupid enough to go into the ocean anyways. The ocean is there's not ours so if we enter it and get attacked or eaten it's our fault not the predators fault.

[@Karlosangeles1]

@@chrismcknight8925 No shortage of seals or sea lions,though.Way back when(40+ years ago),great white sharks were rarely heard of in So.Cal,besides the backside of the channel islands and further north in the colder water,but they are in thick now due to the ocean temperatures rising,but also to them having to focus on seals,sea lions and the occasional surfer by mistake.The oceans are being abused,but still has plenty in it to eat for everyone.When in the water,it`s best to just keep in mind that you are in their house and are there at your own risk.Love the danger,or watch from the sideline.In Hawaii it was considered an honor to be eaten by a shark and only kings surfed.

[@gabepettinicchio7454]

They reacted to your yacht as they would a large whale they planned to make a meal of. Orca's swim beneath the large whales in an attempt to keep them from diving, while others begin their attack.

[@AkilezNewEngland]

Orcas does not like Fishing Boats because they have been hunted by Chinese and Japanese fishermen.

[@froglobster]

Perhaps the Orcas were just angry a fishboat was stealing their food. Survival of the FISHEST