British Guys Watch Jomboy’s Breakdown of Tatis Jr Apologising For Grand Slam Hit!

[@DNReacts]

Thanks for watching, we hope you enjoyed! Please like, share & subscribe! Check out our merch shop and support the channel. - dnreacts.creator-spring.com/ Other ways to support the channel: Donate via PayPal (PayPal account not needed). - www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=BZRANMGGL9Q9Q Join our Discord, meet the community, submit requests, be included in channel and content polls. - discord.gg/cAkQwUuPN8

[@givepaddytheemmy4535]

I played baseball from age 3 till I was 23. I’ll never forget when I was like 6 or 7 years old, I was at a Cincinnati Reds game with my dad. The Reds were down by 12 runs in the 8th inning and came back to win the game with a walk off. It was awesome and I learned something that night. Just because you’re winning by a lot, NEVER take your foot off the gas. Because your opponent isn’t going to. I hate this “rule”. Makes zero sense

[@YepOkay]

Similar story. I was about 14 at a Reds game where they rallied in the last inning or two to come back from a massive deficit and win the game. I'll never forget high fiving the complete strangers all around me in the 9th as they sealed up the win. This would have been around 2001 or so, but regardless, the idea that teams would risk the same thing happening to them in order to be chivalrous or whatever this is is mind numbing. Glad it's dying out. Edit: Semi-related, but I don't find the video's 'they don't want to offend the pitcher' thing all that compelling tbh--I think it's more just about not pissing off managers and tight-ass teammates, and a fear of upsetting the 'old guard' so to speak. Pitchers get thrown out for obvious stuff like that anymore and I don't think MLB batters are as timid as that theory makes them seem.

[@peterparker642]

​@atheos19padres announcers did the same thing but reverse, saying if padres came back they would walk from alpine to SD. then unknown padres relief pitcher Daniel camerena hit a grand slam along with a rally by the rest of the team

[@JuicyJoey]

They have mercy rules in lower level recreational baseball for a reason. But I believe if you’re playing the game for millions of dollars such as these guys, hurt feelings shouldn’t be a factor in the game.

[@rh9477]

Sitting aside the circumstances, it’s common to be taught to always take on 3-0 even if it’s not an “unwritten rule” situation. My coaches always said “make them pitch to you”

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

Yeah, I think he missed the difference between JUST a 3-0 count & being 3-0, up by 7, in the 8th. I was also taught to take at 3-0. If the guy hasn’t hit his spot for 3 pitches, don’t give him a strike by swinging at anything outside the zone.

[@rh9477]

@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 exactly. basically I was taught on 3-0 to sit on the exact pitch and location you wanted, and take anything else because you earned the right to be picky at 3-0 I suppose 😂

[@lowfuel6089]

Agreed. I'm not a big jomboy fan and think he's a little off the mark here. I'm actually okay with Tatis swinging away, whatever, but the unwritten rule is not about pitchers being whiners.

[@juffurey]

@@lowfuel6089 it is if you consider the manager's reaction, I get he was standing up for his players but that was pure BS

[@lowfuel6089]

@@juffurey Oh for sure. :D There may be a whiner in this particular example, I'm just saying the unwritten rule is not a thing simply because all pitchers are crybabies.

[@bradigan]

I'm a Phillies fan. Last year, the Braves broke my heart in a game by scoring 7 in the 9th to come back and win. No lead is safe. But even if the lead was 20, it should be game on for a batter as long as the losing team is still putting a legitimate pitcher in the game. If the manager doesn't want to blow up a pitcher's ERA late in the game, if they _really_ care about the precise magnitude of how bad their players should feel after being blown out, then put in a position player. Make it clear your team is giving up if you want to be treated with kid gloves.

[@AnthonyJolly-yb1qp]

FACTS! Exactly👏👏👍👍

[@posapop27]

💯agree! Plus, this ain’t little league. If you don’t like it, either play better, or take your ass-whooping like a pro.

[@benjaylehman]

Wasn’t that my Mets? Or did the Braves do that too?

[@bradigan]

@@benjaylehman You're right. It was the Mets. Whoops!

[@roflcopter804]

Yeah this was before his suspension. This clip is from the 2020 COVID season

[@DNReacts]

Thought so, thank you 🙏🏼

[@OliverPascual13]

As a fan, I think this unwritten rule is ridiculous. If both teams aren't actively trying to win at all times, then what are we even doing here? Great video as always, may I suggest a Tony Gwynn reaction? As a new Padres fan, you gotta learn a little about Mr. Padre himself.

[@dannyjoe3343]

"If ya can't take the heat, then stay outta the kitchen!" Which is what my mom would tell me just after pitchin' me some chin music as a kid. If a pitcher proceeds to walk the bases loaded whilst then goin' to a 3-0 count on the next batter...i think that pitcher needs to make a serious business decision about his career choice. "THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL! -Tom Hanks

[@julianturner7244]

I always say if you don't like your opponent running up the score, pitch better.

[@DNReacts]

Exactly!

[@psymar]

Frankly, as a long-time baseball fan, I too find many of these unwritten rules confusing and bewildering; many of them seem to be based around the idea that it is unsporting to do things that maximize your chance to win if you're already *probably* going to win -- or if you're way behind and trying to come back! it's almost as if the people promulgating these "rules" hate the unpredictability of live sports.

[@DNReacts]

Yeah I agree! Just play the game 👏🏼

[@Fly-The-W]

It also seems like most unwritten rules favor the pitcher more than anyone because when they get upset can just throw at guys. Its ridiculous

[@adamp2029]

I agree with most “unwritten rules” in baseball BUT only for amateurs. Little league, high school, college. But that’s it.

[@eggoslayer1001]

@@adamp2029 Definitely get that. There's not as much at stake in lower levels of baseball. MLB is also just so stats driven too and contracts are on the line. It does nothing but hurt the player to just sit there and buy into made up fake rules and put himself in a bad position just because pitchers are crybabies. The fact that his own manager threw him under the bus is even more gross. Have your player's backs. I actually forgot about this whole thing and I'm annoyed again years later lol.

[@NatTurnerswitBurnerz]

Interestingly enough, Tatis' dad hit two grandslams in one inning for the Cards almost 25 years ago.

[@jmt3116]

Unwritten rules in baseball have led to a lack of new fans joining the sport and have held the sport back in my opinion. Sport is supposed to be competitive, if you don't want me to score or celebrate make sure you stop me from scoring or celebrating.

[@DNReacts]

That’s a great way of putting it!

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

I don’t think watching players act like assholes is a good time. But that’s just me. I’m one of those guys that thinks touchdown celebrations (especially the scripted ones) are pretty dumb & make me like the sport less. Please, let’s not do that to baseball. If you want a bunch of silliness, there’s always pro wrestling..

[@latrelljack8751]

@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 I think that’s just soft but I guess

[@terrymac6]

I doubt it’s because of unwritten rules that baseball isn’t getting much new fans. Football and basketball also have unwritten rules but that isn’t stopping fans from getting into those sports

[@jwithextrajj]

@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Celebrations are fun though, especially for the players. Players should be allowed to celebrate, especially if they've earned it. Let people have fun.

[@macdavidson3814]

I saw a video where an MLB player goes over a document of the unwritten rules someone made with some youtube commentators and he said "It just seems like most of these rules are to keep pitchers happy." And that convinced me that most of the unwritten rules are dumb. And I think most of the reason players follow them is that they don't want to get beaned by a pitch. It'd be one thing if pitchers didn't try to exploit it, but most of the time they think the batter's gonna take whatever they throw, so they will just throw a fastball in the zone and get a free strike.

[@theracat8626]

To your comment about seeing alot of 3-0 where they don't swing. A lot of that is tactical decisions by the team. You would rather take the free chance at a walk and still be up in the count vs getting out, especially if there is a runner on first and you could risk a double play.

[@Pete_Finch]

"Comfortable lead" is one of the most dangerous statements in sports, if your goal is to win that is. There's a reason why Bill Belichick always keeps his foot on the gas and runs up the score no matter how big a lead he has (with 8 Super Bowl rings to show for it) - all it takes is showing a little mercy to the other team when you have that nice cushy lead for you to get burned by the previously unthinkable comeback

[@evanshall]

Theres a legendary college football coach, Steve Spurrier, who was known for running up the score. He said "It's not my job to stop my team from scoring. It's your job. If you don't want to be scored on, do something to stop it."

[@Danielren123]

This actually started the record the padres set of hitting a grand slam in the most games in a row at 4! All against the rangers too, a little revenge.

[@williamdemerchant7295]

I have only visited Fenway Park one time. Me and my wife (to be) were near Fenway, and I suggested that we watch the game. Tickets for a bleacher seat were only $3 in 1981. I purchased the tickets, but we were late and had missed the top half of the first inning. When we were seated the score was 8-0 for the (same) Texas Rangers over the Red Sox. The game ended up as a 16-8 Texas win. Eight runs in an inning is unusual, but will happen a few times every season. Imo, this is a foolish unwritten rule. As said by Yogi Berra; "It ain't over 'til it's over."

[@proteuswest1084]

The unwritten rules basically boil down to what actions can and will upset a team to the point where they may throw at you. Those actions that are typically frowned upon generally fall into two categories: actions that hurt people's feelings and actions that can hurt people physically (like sliding in to a base and bringing your cleats up). I am all for baseball players and teams taking care of their own business when the other team does something that is unsafe, but most of the "hurt feelings" ones are pretty ridiculous. Of the "hurt feelings" unwritten rules, the one I probably agree with the most is that you don't try to bunt your way on in the middle of a no-hitter or a perfect game, but even then, I can think of a lot of situations where that's not that unpalatable, especially in a close game where you need base runners. The NFL used to be a lot more proactive on disallowing players from celebrating their accomplishments, and I used to really hate it, but as I've gotten older and those rules have gotten more relaxed, I realize that it's not that important and I'd rather see players having fun if they want to. I am always going to respect folks like Barry Sanders who always just handed the ball to the official afterwards, but I can appreciate Deion Sanders or Terrell Owens for the entertainment value they provided, and how a lot of storylines were built around their bombastic personas. It would be better for baseball if they let their players have fun and show their personalities.

[@adamp2029]

I think these “unwritten rules” have a place: in Little League, high school, and college. But that’s it.

[@jeffsetter213]

FYF is the manta I live by. FYI: The YF stands for "Your Feelings".

[@JamesLarson47]

I've been watching baseball for 35 years, I've never heard of an unwritten rule that you can't swing 3-0 when you're up by 6 after 6... shit... the Pirates gave up 4 leads in the past week of 5 or 6 runs after the 5th inning.... so there's no way in hell that I wouldn't be trying to hit a bad pitch hard at any time in the game. Now... coaches typically don't want most guys swinging on 3-0 pitches because they don't want them to swing at a bad pitch when the pitcher is obviously struggling to get the ball over the plate. So you see a lot guys taking pitches down the middle on 3-0, but... good hitters typically have the green light to swing on 3-0.

[@sneersh9107]

These days a lot of the unwritten rules are being challenged. For instance you see bat flips all the time nowadays, not long ago it was an unwritten rule to not showboat or you'd get beaned by the pitcher your next at-bat.

[@ronaldtreasure9175]

Out of all American sports, Baseball has the most and the most annoying unwritten rules. And most of them involve not hurting a pitcher's feelings. Can't celebrate a home run, can't bunt with a huge lead, can't steal bases with a huge lead, can't try to hit with a huge lead, etc ,etc. Like Jomboy said, pitchers are the biggest babies in all of sports. When they have a good day, they can celebrate and act the fool on the mound. But if they have a bad day, everybody else has to curb their enthusiasm in order to not upset the pitcher because he might snap and throw baseballs at your head. If pitchers can dish it out when the going is good, they should be able to take it when the going is bad. Tatis's manager and teammates should have had his back

[@tracyharris2617]

Glad Tingler and Hosmer are long gone.

[@Banger16]

I played baseball through college as a pitcher, its an absolute garbage unwritten rule. I never just took a straight pitch unless it was strategy and i never pitched a ball thinking the hitter will not swing. It's BS I think the MLB takes it so serious but in lower leagues it just gives your team a reason to get angry and motivated, its more a fuel to make something happen. Like a coach getting thrown out of the game to motivate the team. It should never go this far into the press conference and then the player apologizing is embarrassing

[@BuuhBlocks]

I absolutely love when you said its not crazy to strike out up 3-0 if you give them a free strike its 3-1. you foul off the next pitch its 3-2. Why on earth would you give the pitcher those odds. Unwritten rules are unwritten because they are absolutely stupid.

[@Justin-so1xs]

To clarify, the "unwritten rule" only applies late game with a big lead. The reason why you're seeing it a lot under normal circumstances is because when it's a 3-0 count you GENERALLY want to try to get a walk, and force the pitcher to throw a strike before you swing. It's not an unwritten rule free strike for the pitcher, it's the batter saying hey you've thrown 3 balls in a row so you're going to have to show me you can throw a strike or I'm taking the walk.

[@MrJeddYoung]

I'm going to go against the majority here and say that i like the unwritten rules of baseball - they are a part of the tradition and the culture of the sport. What's funny to me is that sometimes there is a grey area where nobody is really sure what the unwritten rule is - for instance - sometimes a hitter makes a clutch homerun - and in the eyes of the pitcher - is too happy - celebrates too overtly - typically by flipping the bat afterwards with a little too much "zing" on it - thus possibly violating the unwritten rule of "thou shalt not celebrate a homerun too loudly." Of course - this sin is in the eye of the beholder - and this schism is where you get an increase in tension between the two sides. Just part of the game. Part of the culture of baseball. But i'm glad you guys are studying the game at this level - it's fun to watch. Thanks for posting this one.

[@swantonatombomb]

I hate this unwritten rule I don't care if my team is down by a 100 runs the other team shouldn't stop playing hard.

[@noahweber5606]

I do think we were all taught to take 3-0 primarily because pitchers growing up might not locate that 3-0 fastball and we could force a walk. In the big leagues, it’s much more likely he’ll lay one in there if he assumes the batter isn’t swinging-and then before you know it you foul one off and you’re 3-2…

[@Tu_Padre31]

7:16 theres an old saying that "a walks just as good as a hit" so on 3-0 alot of hitters are told to take the next pitch as they have a chance at a free base. Pitchers know this and therefore buckle down and throw an absolute volley ball down the middle to help themselves get back in the count. Unfortunate, since most batters are in "take mode" they're just not ready to swing at 95mph+ even if it is right down the middle.

[@dennislopez1272]

Your first instinct was right, Gents. The unwritten rules are stupid. As a competitor who played at a pretty high level in football, I could not imagine just letting up or wanting another team take it easy on me. I played defense, and if I can't stop the offense from scoring, then I should be mad at myself. Nobody else. Take your *** whooping like a man. It feels that much better when you play next time and kick their teeth in. Metaphorically speaking of coarse. 😁

[@ClementYang24]

My biggest takeaway is that the old heads who hate "participation trophies" in sports somehow love these unwritten rules as well. If you don't want the kid to to hit a grandslam 1) don't walk all the previous batters and 2) strike his ass out. Just cause you're out of the game doesn't mean the other side has to stop competing.

[@seriusacton]

I'm with Jomboy on this. It's stupid to hold on to childish "unwritten rules" that do nothing to make baseball worth watching. Tatis did his job.

[@boxcarhobo7017]

I love the geyser of sarcasm spewing from the narrator of the breakdown video.

[@jameshurley9551]

They changed some of the playoff tie breaker rules to include +/- run differential in the mix. As a result this unwritten rule is gone now. Teams are all directly incentivized to score as much as possible. The dumbest unwritten rule I ever saw was a pitcher yelling at a batter who had gotten out and when running back to the dugout cut across the mound. The pitcher lost his cool yelling "That's MY MOUND!". I've only ever heard it referenced once. It was so lame

[@dankdrank1774]

It’s like that in almost very sports game. You typically try not to run up the score. Like in the nfl if you up 3+ touchdowns in the 4th typically teams just start running the ball to kill clock and to not just keep piling on the score.

[@glitchxero4687]

Can anyone imagine a player from the NFL or NBA or NHL apologizing for scoring at the wrong time? Kinda seems to me like baseball as a sport should just stop getting butt-hurt over literally everything.

[@SuperBrewcrew8]

IMO most unwritten rules are dumb, but the spirit of the rules, “don’t be a dick,” is fine. One unwritten rule I actually like is “Don’t bunt to try to break up a perfect game/no hitter.” To me it’s okay to do this if it’s a close game and you think bunting is the best way to get on base (you play to win, after all). Otherwise, dropping a bunt down trying to catch the 3rd baseman napping or to force a bad defensive play to break up a potentially historic achievement is kind of a dick move.

[@KevinQuinn81]

Jimmy sums up this particular unwritten rule pretty well. It's all rather dumb. There's a bunch of unwritten rules that old heads in baseball like to adhere to and most of them revolve around, as Jimmy said, not pissing off pitchers when they're getting lit up. Some of the other ones not mentioned in this video are attempting to steal a base when up big or bunting for a base hit when up big. They're all fine and good in my men's league but for paid professionals at the highest level? Nah. That one Tweet from Trevor Plouffe, former Twins infielder and now member of Jomboy Media, speaks to what Damo was talking about with regard to not seeing anyone swing at 3-0 pitches. It is not very common in today's game, even amongst some of the best hitters when it probably should be, given that the pitcher usually just grooves a fastball down the middle. I know part of it is that they don't want to swing at ball 4 and look dumb or hit the ball in play for an out on a pitch where you would have had at least 2 more strikes to play with, but still. My least favorite unwritten rule is any that involves a pitcher throwing at a player intentionally. I don't care if the hitter even hurt or threw at one of YOUR players. Turn the other cheek and don't be TRYING to hurt anyone.

[@roymoss75]

I luv baseball & hate the unwritten rules..I believe that I'll stop trying to win when your team stops trying to win..period

[@rgractor]

MLB has no mercy rule and baseball has no time limit. Teams should try to score as many runs as possible and never let up.

[@bduval9253]

I'm a fan of "unwritten rules" when they're pinned to respect and sportsmanship, but this one baffles me. It essentially says that under a specific (and VERY common) situation, you're expected to disregard the fundamentals of clean, competitive play. Batters who are down 3-0 in the count strike out, ground out, fly out, etc. all the time - in every game. A pitcher who has pitched himself into a 3-0 hole shouldn't be allowed a freebie right down the pipe. . . and footballers (the metric variety of football) shouldn't flop around like they're being attacked by hornets with tasers at the slightest touch. Not sure those two concepts are at all related, beyond the fact that I dislike them both.

[@floorticket]

In tennis it used to be bad form to hit a lob before it bounced. Rules change.

[@ncg195]

This incident with Tatis was kind of a catalyst for more players starting to swing 3-0 more often. To paraphrase Brewers outfielder Chritian Yelich after he hit a homerun on a 3-0 count, these days, pitchers are so good that the fastball you get on a 3-0 count might be the only hittable pitch that you get in that at bat. That said, most players, in most situations, still won't swing 3-0, not because of any unwritten rule, but because they're looking to reach base in any way they can. If you've just seen three straight pitches out of the zone, and you believe that the pitcher was trying to throw strikes and missed, you might start to think that the pitcher could be struggling with his command. If you think that the pitcher might be having trouble throwing strikes, what's the harm in seeing another pitch and maybe drawing an easy walk? Another aspect to the unwritten rule is that you don't want to waste an at bat where you're ahead in the count. If you swing 3-0 and hit a routine ground ball to short, you've bailed out the pitcher by gifting him an out when he was in a bad situation.

[@TremulantSlug]

People forget some of context regarding this part of the Padres’ season. We had just lost 5 in a row. We had blown a 4-2 lead in the 8th in Arizona to get swept. For this first time all year we were under .500. It really felt like we just needed to fucking win!

[@woundedcrow4606]

The best unwritten rule is not bunting if the pitcher you’re facing is carrying a no hitter or a perfect game late in the game. It’s a way to get a cheap hit. A pitcher recently lost a perfect game when a batter got into the way of an inside pitch and got hit by the pitch on purpose. Major violation of the unwritten rules

[@DNReacts]

I’m not saying I disagree with you, but why do you think the hitter should help an opposing pitcher obtain a perfect game?

[@woundedcrow4606]

@@DNReacts every pitcher has the opportunity to make history every time they take the mound. Once a pitcher has a no hitter or perfect game going late, it becomes a pride thing for the team getting no-hit. Teams getting no-hit will want to have their best at-bats and break the no-hitter on merit, as opposed to getting a cheap hit. That’s how you’d want it if the shoe was on the other foot

[@DNReacts]

Thanks for the reply! Appreciate it 😊

[@woundedcrow4606]

@@DNReacts there’s a great video essay by Baseball Historian on KZbin about Dwight Gooden. He was the best pitcher of the 1980’s but had personal troubles and had to struggle to come back late in his career. It’s my favorite baseball essay video on KZbin. Maybe you guys could eventually get around to doing a reaction to it. Thanks! I enjoy the channel!

[@cardboardbelt]

These "unwritten rules" can be annoying. If you don't want the other team to score then maybe you should play well enough to stop them. The problem in baseball is that there's no clock to run out. In most of our sports it's easy to change your play calling and work the clock to accomplish both goals of 1) not running up the score and 2) improving your chances of winning the game. With no clock to run, it's a lot harder in baseball, especially when the other team is playing poorly. Have you ever tried to throw a game to a little kid but the task ends up being harder than you thought? Sometimes they just won't let you let them win. And if you're too obvious about it they still get mad at you. Think this only applies to little kids? You'd be wrong. Back in 1991 in week 1 of the NFL season, Washington blew Detroit out 45-0. It could have been worse. Late in the 4th quarter they were driving the ball using pretty much only running plays. Redskins coach Joe Gibbs didn't want to run the score up, so he had his team kneel on the ball inside Detroit's 5 yard line, run a lot of clock, and give the ball back to the Lions. The game was over, so why rub their noses in it, right? Well Lions linebacker Chris Spielman didn't see it that way. He saw the gesture as disrespectful and was VERY loud about it in the media. Seems like a "darned if you do, darned if you don't" situation to me. Sure, in football, maybe stop calling trick plays and don't throw deep when you're up by 40 in the 4th quarter. Take your time getting to the line of scrimmage. Get the game over as quickly as possible. In basketball, run the shot clock down every time down if you're up by 20 with 2 minutes left and maybe stop throwing up 3 pointers. In hockey, since there's no shot clock just see how long you can hold the puck if you're up by 5 goals late in the game. Play keep away. But in baseball? There's no limit to how many runs the other team can score in an inning. There's no clock. Swing the heck away.

[@Scholarstorm]

The best unwritten rule is a pitcher that gets removed mid inning must watch the relief pitcher finish the inning and can't just head to the showers early. It's a nice way to respect the teammates trying to bail you out.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

Always liked that one too👍

[@mcgarbage4974]

A+ rule

[@federicothompson2299]

I think all unwritten rules are dumb

[@mcgarbage4974]

@@federicothompson2299 I think unwritten rules aimed at your own team and being a good person are usually good. Ones aimed at sportsmanship get a lot hazier and change over time but supporting your team is a decent excuse to shame people for breaking those rules

[@Wyrmwould]

I paid to see my favorite team win by a million runs if possible. It's not like this is Little League. There is no "mercy rule" in the MLB for reason. And there's no tying either. MLB should be played until somebody wins or somebody dies. And the sky is the limit when it comes to running up the score. It really makes these guys seem terribly soft when they complain after the game.

[@jwithextrajj]

I hope a lot of players start breaking all of the unwritten rules to piss them off, because it makes no sense that these rules exist.

[@RJ-gk4rt]

Auto-taking 3-0 is as low iq as auto-taking 0-0, the best pitches you’re going to see and as far as running up the score all I gotta say is stats matter. Everything is tracked and when it comes to contract time they may or may not meet incentives if they decide to let some of those cookies go by. Swing away!

[@melrest3453]

Lol “you’re free 2 now your free free!” Love British accents.

[@rh9477]

There can be some valid situations when certain things might be disrespectful to do to pile on in a blowout game, but this is way over the top and too rigidly applying the “unwritten rules”

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

I agree. 6 or 7 runs is not a lot. Maybe if it was the 9th inning, but the other team is trying to win too. I’m not gonna give ‘em anything extra. Although, I doubt I personally would’ve swung at 3-0 in that situation, but at 3-1? I would’ve swung my ass off🤣

[@AnthonyJolly-yb1qp]

YES! FACTS!👏👏👍👍 Tatis,Jr gets PAID A LOT of money to his job, the HELL with the other teams hurt feelings of some unwritten rule,just because the other teams picther can't keep the ball in the park,or runners off bases.The Texas Rangers manager should've just told his picther two things:(1) Walk him.(2) go to the bullpen and bring in another picther.It's NEVER the other teams fault to try and help the other team win,or do the job of the other teams manager,or coaches.Notice in the press conference Rangers manager didn't take any responsibility for his team given up 7-runs? No let me complain about the other teams player swinging at 0-3.Dude! shut up! and move on too the next game!

[@alperensengun6832]

They applied them wayyyy too harshly. I feel like they are really quick to say he’s being disrespectful when he’s just playing with excitement

[@siinatro9047]

In general players are taught to take the pitch at 3-0 regardless of score. It makes sense as any contact can lead to an out, while you are one ball away from a free base. My high school coach told us to look for our exact “home run pitch” on 3-0 and take anything else. If you swung on 3-0 you’d better make good contact for a hit at bare minimum or you’d get an earful. As far as I’m concerned that’s what Tati’s did here and I’d have done the same.

[@timothyschaefer9504]

I wrote an article ages ago for Disciples of Uecker called something like "Unwritten rules are stupid." I stand by this. They suck, they make baseball boring, and they're understandably baffling to players who came up in other countries. Thumbs down.

[@DaBaltimoron]

Jomboy is 100% correct. Idiotic to think Tatis can't swing there.

[@BrysonHicks-wt7bf]

the grand majority of "unwritten rules" are just there to protect one side's fragile egos and they should be left in the past, they came to play not to go easy

[@YepOkay]

Long and short of it is that the unwritten rules don't really make sense to most fans nowadays, and even a lot of diehard MLB fans will go on rants about how stuff like this is 'killing the game.' I think these rules are ridiculous myself, and there's an element of weird condescension (it almost feels weirdly classist to me in a way) about them that irks me, as a fan of many other sports where this sort of thinking is unthinkable. Regardless, it's something that'll change and/or die out over time--the snake person and under fanbase has made their views pretty clear.

[@jameshurley9551]

Most unwritten rules are in fact due to thin skinned pitchers getting mad and hurting you with a pitch after. There's some low level respect plays that I get but stuff like this 3-0 swing? Nah. People just made they're doping poorly.

[@NateSATheLegend]

So my thought is this, I like the unwritten rule, but I believe I'm in favor for any retaliation thay may happen on the field as a result of breaking that unwritten rule. Now thats as far as I think it needs to go. No one should ever have to apologize after the game for breaking g an unwritten rule, that's crazy. The suspensions were fine however, because the ordering of throwing an errant pitch at a batter as a form of retaliation is breaking an actual written rule. It may be the natural consequence of breaking g the unwritten rule, but no where is it written that retaliation must happen.

[@JackRobinson14]

There is the thing in soccer where you give possession back to the other team after an injury. That is an unwritten rule. I like that one better because an injury is involved rather than just the pitcher's feelings. You would be worried about the player's family's feelings if they are injured

[@gregadkins2483]

From a former shitty baseball player perspective, you throw me a meat pitch I'm going to try to destroy it. This whole debacle was insane. If the score was 15-0 top 9, then I get it because we are all trying to get back to the hotel. This was BS

[@sacrilegiousboi]

Ricky Henderson broke the stolen base unwritten rule all the time that's why he has the record

[@jonathanwilliams6451]

As a Rangers fan, this was a really silly thing to get upset about. I still can't believe the manager complained about it. Absolutely bonkers. The Orioles didn't complain when the Rangers beat them 30-3. It's not like 7 run lead never gets blown. Why would a team stop trying to win?

[@JWCustoms]

To your exact point I’m a Astros fan and earlier this week we were up 10-2 on your Rangers. A few good at bats later we were down 11-10 to your rangers. No lead is safe when your team stops putting in effort.

[@larrythecableman6963]

Unwritten rules are stupid. Basically just there to make losers feel better about themselves

[@chappikingofjoberg3583]

As I was walking my dog today watching some dad doing soft pitch for a bunch of kids and yelling made up rules and ignoring the kids when they were right; its just something about baseball that gets the egos going. The MLB has a toxic culture, yes, but i think on some level it is intrinsic to the game itself.

[@chappikingofjoberg3583]

Especially pitchers, something about being up on the mound getting most of the action gives them a massive head

[@PNieschulz]

Most unwritten rules benefit the pitcher's ego as Jomboy stated. I personally can't stand them. Throw better pitches if you don't want to be down 3-0 in the count.

[@Mikelauuury]

Check out Mexico vs Canada WBC brawl because of an unwritten rule (bunting while up a lot late in a game)

[@Tu_Padre31]

7:16 theres an old saying that "a walks just as good as a hit" so on 3-0 alot of hitters are told to take the next pitch as they have a chance at a free base. Pitchers know this and therefore buckle down and throw an absolute volley ball down the middle to help themselves get back in the count. Unfortunately, since most batters are in "take mode" they're just not ready to swing at 95mph+ even if it is right down the middle.

[@BigFellaThx]

Of course it's an idiotic rule, especially in baseball because of course there is no time limit so the other team can always come back if they just don't make outs. No team should ever just give up on scoring more runs, I don't care if they're up by 40-0. Or if you believe the game is over and your team can't come back, just forfeit the game then and there. Simple as that

[@SP.007]

Imagine if the final score ended up 11-10 for the Rangers. Teams can score 10+ runs in a span of 2 innings.

[@erolbulut2584]

I, for one, do not care for 'unwritten rules'. You play to win, not coddle your opponent's feelings.

[@posapop27]

💯💯💯

[@user-vs3bg8nj7k]

In my opinion the Texas Rangers still have the 8th and 9th inning to score 7 runs. That's able to be done and has been done. Then they go to extra innings and end up winning. I feel it's the other teams job to stop you if they can't that's their fault. I'm not gonna just not score when I can and let you come back

[@coyotelong4349]

I love baseball dearly, but the “unwritten rules” are becoming a thing of the past and the game is better for it The rule about not being allowed to celebrating home runs is the most egregious… Imagine if in football nobody was allowed to show any emotion whatsoever after scoring a goal, or else he’d be brutally fouled on the next play 🤪

[@Alex-kd5xc]

The crazy thing is that a 7 run lead with 2 innings to go isn’t even THAT safe of a lead. The chances of a comeback are very slim but not slim enough that you should stop trying to win. Teams have scored 7 or more in two innings plenty of times before. The rule is stupid, I don’t even care what kind of lead you have. The idea that a bunch of professionals are supposed to stop trying just because you couldn’t keep up is embarrassing. Also, the reason you’ve seen so many 3-0 pitches not being swung at is mostly not because of some unwritten rule, it’s mostly because most hitters are taught not to swing 3-0 unless the pitch is absolutely right where they want it because even if you take a strike, you’re still firmly in control at 3-1. If you swing at a 3-0 pitch and make an out, it’s sort of like giving the pitcher an easy out when you as the hitter had all the leverage.

[@carlosvaladez2186]

Another 🔥 reaction

[@austin15452]

At 8:00 It’s not always when they are 3-0 that they will get fastballs right down the middle and not swing. It’s if they are winning by let’s say 8+ runs and it’s near the end of the game then they will abide by the unwritten rule and not swing to be “courteous” so if the score is 3-3 and the count is 3-0 they are going to swing and not just let that fastball go straight down the middle for no reason. They have to up by a lot and the game is near the end for this rule to be used.

[@jartstopsign]

Such a stupid unwritten rule, to expect a batter to bail on an at bat just because they've got a lead is pathetic. Might as well just put in a mercy rule like we've got in little league while they're at it.

[@DNReacts]

Very well said!

[@ilearnedsomethingnewtoday6193]

My favorite unwritten rule is don't try to spoil a perfect game by leaning into the pitch to get hit. It's completely acceptable to spoil a perfect game, but not by using a cheap ploy

[@jacksontucker6077]

I still don’t think the steroids he used were for a performance gain. I believe his explanation of how he used a steroid from his hometown that he has used his whole life to treat his ringworm in his dreads wasn’t a lie. It just happened to have a chemical that was against mlb rules and he got suspended for it

[@supersasukemaniac]

Hell you can pop for steroids taking an Inhaler, i think that has happened too. I think in UFC when Herring was fighting for them,he failed all his post fight drug tests, but before his fights,and even between rounds sometimes, he would take a puff from his Inhaler due to Asthema, Nevada Atheltic Commission even admitted they where all false pops due to his Inhaler.

[@brettg274]

Yes, and even if it was not that, he was not dinged for using them while playing, he had surgery for an injury and was trying to recover more quickly.

[@eggoslayer1001]

Yeah I just don't care all that much about it. People act like this is an A-Rod situation where he was going out of his way to "cheat baseball" when at worst he's a young dude that made a dumb mistake. I'm cheering for him, he's such an electric and fun player to watch.

[@antonioduverge3558]

I agree with you, he is the same Tatis, when player don’t use it they don’t performance is not the same and Tatis is even better now.

[@chrisb.8758]

Most of the time when a batter takes a fastball right down the middle on 3-0 it’s less of an unwritten rules thing and more just good strategy. Even well-hit balls can result in outs a lot of the time so the last thing a batter wants to do is swing at a pitch they shouldn’t have that would have been ball 4, and get out instead. Because of that a lot of batters will just choose not to swing before the pitch is even thrown, and since most batters do that, the pitcher will just throw a fastball for a strike. Occasionally the batter will try to surprise the pitcher by swinging since the pitcher probably has a false sense of security that they can throw it right down the middle. This is risky but can result in a home run. This is where the unwritten rules come in, apparently doing this in a blowout is classless or something. It’s idiotic. Just wanted to clarify that most of the 3-0 fastballs down the middle that you see, the batter isn’t choosing not to swing because of sportsmanship, it’s usually just to avoid making a really bad mistake and turning a walk into an out

[@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace]

They take a fastball down the middle to avoid making an out and take the walk? I'm not getting your logic here.

[@chrisb.8758]

@@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace they don’t know it’s going to be down the middle. Even pitchers trying to throw a fastball down the middle will often miss and throw it for a ball. About 40% of 3-0 pitches are thrown outside of the strike zone. Many of those are pitches where the pitcher was just trying to throw a strike and still missed anyway. So the batters usually take the pitch instead of risking accidentally swinging at ball 4 and making weak contact, especially since even if it *is* down the middle, then the count is now 3-1 which is still a very favorable count. Especially early in the inning it’s not usually going to be worth the risk of swinging and potentially giving up your chance at a walk. The most important job of a hitter is getting on base. The chance of getting on base once the count reaches 3-0 is around 70%. Even most hard hit balls result in outs more often than that, which is why swinging is a huge risk. If you’re going to do it you better be damn sure you’re going to guess right and hit the ball hard for extra bases. If it’s 2 outs with a runner or two on base, the math changes dramatically and the value of a walk relative to a home run is a lot lower. But flying out on a 3-0 pitch with no outs is basically the worst thing a hitter can do.

[@LiveFromThePorcelainPalace]

@@chrisb.8758 if they expexxt it and see it they'd crush it

[@kevinb314]

Baseball def has more unwritten rules than most sports. I’d say only hockey is comparable Def watch a vid on baseballs unwritten rules though!

[@33RoyCorpPor]

my favorite NHL unwritten nhl rules are 1. You don't celebrate when your team is up by a lot, if you watch a blowout you'll see the goal celebrations get more and more tame. 2. You never ever shoot after the whistle/horn.. Sometimes NBA players will take a practice shot, but if you do that in hockey you will get all 5 guys after you immediately In football/soccer I always loved if you have the ball and there's an injured opposing player but play hasn't stopped, you kick the ball out so they can get attention.. and then the 2nd part where the team with the injured player throws it in to the opposition on purpose

[@88keys81]

There is just no logic to this unwritten rule. It's apparently perfectly fine to leave your best hitter in a 20 run game, and it is perfectly fine for him to try to hit home runs in a 20 run game, but if in that situation the count gets to 3-0, he is supposed to take a strike for some reason. I imagine this goes back many decades to when very few batters swung at 3-0 pitches in general. But the reason to take 3-0 pitches is because a walk can help your team, not to avoid running up the score. If your team keeps getting walks they could run up the score even more.

[@WarWolfeX]

There’s a great video about the new age of baseball players who are challenging the boring old ways of the sport.

[@phunkjnky]

I had, and apparently I was mistaken that all good hitters were told this, a green light on a 3-0 count, but I better make contact, it better be a strike, and I could lose that green light if I consistently made bad decisions with it. The unwritten rules are stupid. All of them result from and are retaliations from being butt hurt. They sometimes make up unwritten rules when it is convenient. I forget who the pitcher was (he was a NY Yankee I think) who got butt hurt and made up an unwritten rule about a hitter crossing the mound on his way back to the dugout. My least favorite unwritten rule has to do with batters and/or admiring their home run and/or then flipping their bat in celebration. If you guys want fun, the Koreans have basically turned bat flipping into an art form.

[@KLRBugeater]

Another unwritten rule is your team does not "bunt" to ruin a no-hitter... Worst unwritten rule in baseball.

[@Frazier008]

Baseball is an entertainment industry that has been declining the last 10 years in popularity. If I’m a fan buying tickets to the games, I want to see the star players hit home runs and grand slams not take a free strike. This is the kind of stuff that’s killing baseball.

[@thanksgivingmcdaniels3335]

Jomboy couldn't have said it better, almost all the unwritten rules are stupid, and the retaliation and whining when they're broken is much worse. They're mostly very old relics from maybe WWI era that have been handed down over generations and never questioned, that reimagine baseball as some sort of country club gentlemen''s game. Which is absurd. Don't want the hitter to hit a home run there? Get him out. Don't want him to swing? Make him look stupid for trying. That simple. Though I'd rather not be Tatis' teammate who has to bat after that.

[@alperensengun6832]

I think they had such a big problem with it just because of how much excitement Tatis plays with. He’s pretty much the face of this “let the kids play” movement. And these guys were probably looking for the first opportunity to call Tatis “disrespectful”. If that was any other player I don’t think they have nearly as big an issue with it. Some people just can’t handle the flair that Tatis plays with. I believe that’s what they call being soft

[@freddiejupiter442]

Hey guys, great show! The basball rule that I loathe, is where an umpire can see that a base was not touched when passed by a runner yet, unless appealed, that information will drift off into the ether. Unless they changed that recently. 🤔

[@DNReacts]

Thank you Freddie, really appreciate the comment 🤝

[@frankisfunny2007]

These unwritten rules are all about having good sportmenship, than anything.

[@willbernstein6596]

One of the only true unwritten rules that should be respected is if a pitcher is throwing a no-hitter or perfect game and his team is up by 4-5 runs in the late innings.... don't bunt to break up the no-hitter or perfect game.

[@ScottServais-poet]

This unwritten rule is ridiculous. The rules of competition break down with this one. It's totally unfair unless the losing team is also going to not score runs.. that's never going to happen these guys are all competitors and won't give up until basically the final pitch. This is my least favorite rule. I also hate any rules that promote retaliation

[@gracielynn9623]

I hate this unwritten rule. I’m so glad that so many teams don’t follow it. The Giants just beat the Dodgers by 15 runs yesterday. The Braves are still trying to do everything they could when beating the Rockies 14-6 in the late innings yesterday. The Braves beat the Marlins 29-9 last couple of years ago. The Blue Jays beat the Red Sox something like 28-4 last year. This unwritten rule is so stupid! The losing team is just a bunch of babies. Maybe if they play better baseball they wouldn’t be losing bye so much.

[@subterraneanretrogames556]

6 or 7 runs is unlikely to come back from, but not impossible. You play to win the game.

[@ilearnedsomethingnewtoday6193]

Don't unwritten rules make sense. Some are stupid. This one has always annoyed me

[@hollywoodjayyy7700]

This unwritten rule is ridiculous. I understand the premise of it but that don’t mean for your team to led off the gas. I played baseball if it’s 3-0 it’s a green light every time in my view.

[@brettg274]

There’s a school of thought that generally a batter won’t swing 3-0, because if a pitcher just missed his spot on you three times on a row and they’re all balls, the batter is pretty much challenging the pitcher to show that he can throw a strike. On the other hand, there’s a decent chance the pitcher is going to be under pressure to groove you a meatball down the middle.