British High Schoolers take Korea’s SAT English Exam!!

Today we’re back at the school, this time to take a look at the notorious Korean SAT. Huge thanks to all the boys who were willing to put themselves in someone else’s shoes today and try this exam!!
We’ve done a few videos about this huge exam in Korea before, and every year I think it’s a great opportunity to remember what so many people are going through right now.
For everyone in Korea about to take the KSAT next week we want to send love and support from the whole KoreanEnglishman and JOLLY team. We’ll be praying for you!
Everyone in this video including the crew had a negative COVID-19 test prior to shooting.
All activities were fully risk assessed and monitored in accordance with UK government guidelines.
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오늘은 고등학생들과 유명한 수능 문제들을 풀어보러 풀햄고로 돌아왔습니다! 잠시나마 다른 사람의 자리에서 수능 문제를 풀어보기로 해준 영국 고등학생분들께 감사드립니다!!
저희가 수능 영상을 몇 번 찍었는데, 매번 이 시기를 보내는 학생 여러분의 마음을 기억할 수 있는 좋은 기회인 것 같아요.
다음주 수능 보시는 모든 분들께 졸리와 영국남자팀 모두가 사랑을 담아 응원을 보냅니다! 기도할게요!
영상의 모든 출연진을 포함한 스태프 전원은 촬영 이전 코로나19 음성 확진을 받았습니다.
모든 촬영 과정은 정부의 방역 지침에 따라 전문가의 확인을 받아 진행되었습니다.

[@jisungnam1811]

조쉬님 안녕하세요,, 제가 영국남자를 중1때 구독한것 같은데 제가 어느덧 고3이 되었네요. 수능 컨텐츠 볼때마다 “아, 나도 고3이 될 때가 있겠지..?” 하면서 봤었는데 막상 수능이 다가오니 긴장되네요. 이번에도 수능 컨텐츠 찍어주셔서 너무 감사합니다!! 어느때나 영국남자 팬이니까 하시는거 모두모두 응원할게요. 영국남자 파이팅!!

[@user-dz5ty6gy5j]

수능 화이팅!!

[@user-yx6kn3ku6i]

댓글이라도 써서 응원을 보냅니다 꼭 잘보세요!

[@cadoevver1246]

ㅠㅠ공부하느라 넘 고생 많았어요 수능 화이팅!!!!!!!

[@user-vo2kd5ce5x]

유튜브 끄세요..

[@jisungnam1811]

@@user-vo2kd5ce5x 수능 컨텐츠 기다렸다구요!!!!

[@jeanne6670]

"These guys aren't students, bro" "They come here, they'll be teaching me English, i swear" I'M DYING LMAOOOO

[@elaine.e]

WHEN DID THEY SAY THIS LMAO

[@dkwhattouseasusername1012]

@@elaine.e near the end just a few seconds before

[@user-mu9wi1hb4v]

🤣

[@bajisfang1429]

BYE 😭

[@ParkJoon]

@@dkwhattouseasusername1012 9:26

[@connor9785]

This isn't showing that Koreans have a better understanding of English than British people, it's just showing that their tests are unnecessarily hard and obviously focus on aspects of English that are completely irrelevant. If you have a test that somebody who is fluent in the language cant pass while somebody who is not can, then the test is doing a bad job at determining your skill in that test.

[@perakojot6524]

The problem is that ppl that create those test are themselves pretty poor in English. While the answers are formally correct, as well as a use of grammar and syntax, the phrasing, the use of vocabulary and particularly semantics are totally inaccurate.

[@irisflower9030]

Very true! And the real testament is that most or many Koreans do not speak fluent English by the time they’re done with school. As a contrast, I started studying English in Russia at 9. By the time I moved to the US at 15 I was fluent so much so that I could take trigonometry during my sophomore year, my first year in the US, without difficulty. It seems like this test is not at all indicative of the actual knowledge of the English language.

[@kikibeneme]

Exactly!!

[@iamandreasilva]

PERIODD

[@juliusmendoza8382]

@@perakojot6524 The point of the exam is to make sure the person who is learning the language can actually have a process of thinking in that specific language. We can all learn the vocabulary of a certain language easily but it’s difficult to actually think in that language.

[@user-sz7tn9xf9z]

일상영어: 나는 배고프다. 수능영어: 나는 나의 허기로 인해 나의 배 속에 무언가를 채워 충족시켜야할 필요성을 느끼고 있는 중이다.

[@user-ox3fc8fq4h]

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@nicolekim3171]

빙고

[@user-ul4cl7jc2i]

맞아, 한국어능력시험도 똑같아 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@fabss5841]

literally hahahha

[@illililiili8752]

ㅋㅋㅋ근데 정말 세살버릇 여든가는게요, 외국나오니 복잡한 상황에 처했을때, 깔끔하고 핵심적인 문장이 바로 안나와요.

[@superha74]

All this test proved is that cultural bias exists in standardized testing. Here we have English students that have shown good deduction skills, cognitive understanding and problem solving. The test is formatted to help Korean students not to read the text but to decipher what keywords and clues will lead to the pre-generated answers. It does not encourage independent thought or comprehension. It produces good test takers that follow directions without question.

[@HopeeInk]

Exactly, but also that’s lowkey how schools and higher education works in general. I remember taking one of my final examples in English and it was tbh quite similar to this (I’m German). As a native speaker you get quite lost, because you’re not trained into finding those keywords.

[@HopeeInk]

Schooling is about recollecting memories and realizing patterns, they don’t encourage independent thinking at least in exams, because it’s quite impossible to standardize that and give grades accordingly.

[@whodis5438]

Not really. The SAT tests for “scholastic aptitude” - by way of logic and verbal reasoning. They are somewhat testing your grasp of vocabulary and grammar but the real point of the “reading comprehension” section is to test your critical thinking. It is actually a good primer to the formal academic writing you will encounter in university, ie reading theory in the humanities or social sciences. As far as measuring “independent thought” typically there is a writing portion as well where the focus is more on rhetorical ability. source: I barely tried in school but I aced my SATs... (I will say that the structure of these exams is more geared toward those with a knack for logic, puzzles, word games etc.)

[@yeyosilver7067]

Nope

[@aluminiumknight4038]

That's exactly hobwit was for us, I had to think like a teacher to solve the exams

[@whatever2552]

"Psychological harm." "I should probably see someone about that." Ray is hilarious. 😭

[@youcantseeme2567]

Yes LMAO😂

[@jinspigtails4066]

he looked delirious by the end of the video 😂

[@whowantsbrowncheese1684]

😂😂😂

[@user-hd3oy2if6t]

매년 수능 때만 되면 어김없이 외국인들 상대로 수능영어 풀게하고 이건 미쳤어!? 이런 반응 뽑아내는 영상이 우후죽순으로 나오는데 애초에 수학능력시험은 대학에서 전문적인 지식과 정보를 수학할 수 있는지 평가하기 위해 만들어진 시험이고 그 중 영어는 영어로 된 원서 읽기 등을 위한 독해력 및 사고력 중점 시험임 지문/문제들을 한국인 출제위원이 일부로 꼬아서 괴랄하게 만드는 게 아님 수능 영어에 실린 지문들은 실제 존재하는 해외 학술지, 논문, 저널 등 여러 전문적인 글에서 몇 문단씩 발췌하여 문맥상 어려운 단어를 교정하고 일부 수정 만을 거쳐 출제하는 거임 당연히 외국인이라고 모두 그 정도 전문적인 글을 일상에서 접하는 것도 아닐테고 애초에 이건 회화 시험이 아닌데 “왜 문장이 단어가 이렇게 어려워?!” “누가 이런 단어를 써? 한국 영어는 미쳤어!” 하는 외국인들은 자기 수준 증명하는 거임 그거 전부 니네 외국인들이 쓴 건데.. 한국인이라고 국어 다 100점맞는 게 아니잖아 국평오가 괜히 있는 말이 아님 그리고 수능영어 45문제 중 문법 문제는 단 29번 단 1문제 뿐이다 그마저도 중학교 고등학교 정상적으로 다녔으면 알만한 기초적인 문법으로 냄 ㅈ걑은 문법 암기 시험은 학교 내신 시험에나 주구장창 내지 수능에 필요없음 중요한 건 독해력 그리고 문제가 요구하는 지문의 정보를 사고할 수 있는 능력임 수능영어에 실린 지문/문제들은 상당히 퀄리티 있는 게 사실이고 요즘엔 절평으로 변한 만큼 부담도 덜 함 뭘 좀 찾아보던가 알고나서 영상을 기획해야지 매년 똑같은 래퍼토리 외국인들 데려다가 수능 영어 까기ㅋㅋㅋㅋ걍 아휴

[@user-hd3oy2if6t]

All of the articles on this test are excerpts from papers, columns, or professional journals written in English from foreign universities. It's to reconstruct it and make a test question.

[@seap2536]

“Stress is the enemy” “Exams aren’t the end of the world” “Health is wealth” - Max

[@michaelraml4465]

Bro I was scrolling through the comments, and the second I came across it’s he said that

[@leonbird8464]

@@michaelraml4465 same 😂

[@baltimorewhisperer]

"Stress is the enemy" was said by a complete idiot

[@GoPrayDontDelay]

@@baltimorewhisperer Truth

[@monkeyd.lorenzo8280]

@@baltimorewhisperer too much stress can literally kill you so I’d say it’s not wrong

[@user-ky1vc8wc3s]

제발 교육부 장관 비롯해 전 교육부 직원들 워크샵때 필수 영상으로 보게 했음 좋겠다. 얼마나 쓸데없는 문제에 아이들의 소중한 유년시절이 허비되고 낭비되고 있는지..교육부 공무원들이 얼마나 중대한 오류를 범하고 있는지를 깨닫길

[@user-sy1tt4uy7t]

수능에 나오는 문제? 진심 사회 나가면 단 한 문제 한글자도 필요가 없지 ㅋㅋ

[@user-wn4kb8hw6k]

진짜임. 이건 고문이고 학대임 그렇게 공부해서 쟤네들이랑 말을 할줄 알기를 하나 도대체 무엇을 위한 시간허비인가 모르겠네. 아차.교육 공무원이 영어를 제대로 알기나해야 없애든지 하지. 울 나란 진짜 꼰대사회라서 사회가.뒤로가고있다

[@user-bo2bt7qv9m]

논문읽을때 필요함

[@nf7218]

수능은 회화목적이 아닌, 영어 논문을 얼마나 해석을 잘 하는가에 달려있습니다. 실제로 영어 지문은 외국 저널에서 가져오기도 하고요. 저는 제가 수능공부하면서 헛된공부라고 단 한번도 생각하지 않았습니다. 탓할시간에 단어 하나라도 더 외우는게 좋습니다. 회화목적이 아닌 시험을 외치냐며 빼액 소리질러 댈게 아니라.

[@user-wn4kb8hw6k]

@@nf7218 솔직히 고등학생 그것도 한국인 대학입학시험에 저널에서 가져와서 문제만든다고? 미국도 그런짓은 안한다. 아무리 해석함 뮈해? 독창성 있는 글을 못 쓰는데. 어디 우리나라 논문 수준보고 이야기해라

[@Nikestales]

Coming from asia and now living in England, there’s a significant difference in work-life balance. In the Philippines, Highschool was 7am-5:30pm then the clubs or sports. College/University was 7am-7pm. Then I went to the UK and I think mental health is much emphasized here. They know you are supposed to have a life outside school or work. It may be different now tho

[@krysylleangelica992]

7am-5pm at school and then homework or studying when you get home😵

[@soleil8596]

As a Filipino and is currently in college here in the ph. I agree with you, school is ridicously hard here.

[@Nikestales]

@@soleil8596 traffic is bad as well. I had to get up at 5-5:30am for school and arrive home at 7pm. That is if you don’t have any extracurricular activities such as clubs and sports varsities.

[@nmplab]

Interesting. My high school (g7-10, pre-K-12) was 7:30-3:30 (dismissal changed every year but more or less was in between 3:20 and 3:40) then extracurricular “9th period” would be an additional 50 minutes after 8th period. And that’s it.

[@Nikestales]

@@nmplab we have a schedule like that but only once a week. But then I have to stay a bit because I have to wait for others to finish due to our school service

[@maitreyisapre446]

I'm an english teacher in korea - some of these kids don't even know the names of the letters in the alphabet, but will read full passages and pass exams. The way the curriculum is taught to these kids is absolutely ridiculous. Some of my top scoring students can't even hold a basic conversation in English, yet they would easily be able to do this reading section at the drop of a hat. Memorization and robotic test prep isn't really about learning the language at all.

[@ittybittymouthful]

I heard this from friends who've taught in korea as well. Absolutely excel in written "textbook" English but can't hold a basic conversation. They need to revise their teaching methods. I suddenly remember my Spanish teach from high school. She never spoke a word of English and emphasized conversation and interactive lessons. We hardly read from textbooks or workbooks.

[@clarablanch5617]

Why do they do that?

[@SwaggerChiick1]

But foreign language learning in many places doesn't help anyone to speak that foreign language. I'm from the Caribbean, and we learn Spanish and French on my island for yearsssss but no one can actually speak any of those languages. It is simply part of the curriculum. I just feel a bit bad to see so many people coming down on Korea specifically, when I think the real issue is that: teaching a foreign language in school for a couple hours a week, with students having no way to practice said language, leads to students being unable to speak said foreign language. Edit: I just want to let you know that I know my comment was unnecessary. I totally got your point, I just felt like defending them for some reason lol.

[@kkurie]

Good point. Im 100% agree with you. look, as you c theirs so many Korean ppl replyed negative for korean ENG SAT test has problem and so many opposite replyed also(they are replayed as Korean) but no one replyed your opinion. which mean's your saying is 100% correct. 한글로 쓴 뎃글중 수능 영어가 문제 있다는 뉘앙스의 글엔 50~60개씩 반박 뎃글 달리는데, 한국에서 영어 가르치는 미국 영어 강사가 한국 영어 교육 문제 있다는 영어 글엔 반박뎃글 하나도 안달리네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 앞에 뎃글들 좀 읽어 봤는데 원문이고 나발이고 그런건 중요 한게 아니고 한국어를 쓰는 우리가 영어를 왜 공부하는지 가장 원초적인 이유를 망각했다는게 중요함 나도 29살때 미국 와서 11년쩨 미국 사는데 10년 넘게 배운 영어가 미국에서 단 1도 도움이 안된다는게 사실이고 앞에서 외국 살아본 분들의 말이 100% 맞음 우리가 영어를 왜 공부하는데? 논문 읽고 에쎄이 쓰고 외국 대학가서 원어민 니들도 못푸는 문제 내가 푼다 나는 저세상 영어 할줄 알아(근데 아무도 사용안하고 아무도 중요하게 여기지 않는 영어) 이거 하려고 공부함? 일단 기본적으로 영어를 쓰고 읽고 말하려고 배우는건데 한국 고등학생들 10년 넘게 공부하면서 할줄 아는게 뭔데? 읽을줄 아는데 배운대로 쓰면 이거 뭔소리냐고 다시 써오라고 하고 말은 한마디도 못하고 이거 문제 있는거잖아 나 한국인인거 자랑스럽고 대한민국 너무 사랑하는데 인정할건 인정 하자 대한민국 영어 교육 영어를 배우는 교육이 아니고 영어라는 이름의 한국식 배배꼬아만든 시험을 풀줄알게만 가르치는 교육일 뿐임.

[@eugenemetayhas]

@@ittybittymouthful My Spanish teacher was the same. Our speaking grade was measured by how much Spanish we spoke to her and each other in class, so that really was a good motivator. She also taught outside the textbook and our lessons were based on discussing articles, literature, and video media from around the Spanish speaking world, which was cool because we got to learn vocabulary differences between European Spanish and Latin American Spanish (and even within Latin America there were some major differences). I still remember a lot of my Spanish today thanks to her teaching style.

[@annnishere7985]

Harvey: "Armand is going to ace this test." Armand: *laughs while reading the passage*

[@hollymotherfk]

Armand: wtf..

[@chengqin8720]

Armand: Gets 3/10

[@k.n956]

It's because that questions r not grammatically correct..

[@user-pm6sy9vh4g]

영국학생들이 한국학생들한테 전하는 메세지가 정신이 번쩍들게 하네요 동그라미로 평가한다 공부말고도 할게많다 건강이 최우선이다 갑자기 우리나라 학생들 너무 불쌍하게 느껴집니다

[@ry-hc1xd]

저도 방금 그렇게 느꼈어요ㅠ

[@admthrawnuru]

I knew several Koreans in grad school who could barely communicate in English, made elementary grammar mistakes, but had fantastic verbal scores on the GRE because they basically just memorized long lists of archaic words that only ever show up on tests like that. It's simultaneously so impressive and also so pointless that they do that. Other than the actual exam, that time could be so put to so much better use, even if just to learn English.

[@trebleclef9844]

They can most definitely read english. This test has nothing to do with speaking english so they most likely dont know how to pronounce each alphabetical letter and say a setence. Remember, never in this test was it a verbal test

[@trebleclef9844]

Also you saying that they could put the time to better use is invalid as the main intention for them learning english may not be to communicate, but to read and understand english as english is written over almost every daily use items

[@trebleclef9844]

Plus u only need to know super basic english to survive in the degenerate society we live in nowadays

[@tsukette.]

they most likely do know how to communicate and use grammar, just dont know how to write or do extremely well with forming sentences. If you go to Korea, you most likely memorize terms and sentences, maybe a bit of formatting, but you dont really have to learn much besides that unless you go to school or work

[@recoomedoom6117]

@@trebleclef9844the english text on there felt like it was written by ai or smth lol

[@itsnotleviosa236]

Armand is that boy who everyone likes and does everything perfectly. He’s a real life protagonist. Lol

[@avieannetorres4567]

them Wattpad leading man!

[@jia9420]

main character energy

[@whowantsbrowncheese1684]

@@jia9420 your username hits hard 😕

[@sungchogue]

his ig?

[@sakusasfabulousmask256]

@@jia9420 more like second lead energy, cause the trend right now is f*ck boy

[@renee1167]

I love what max said, “Exams aren’t the end of the world” and “Health is wealth”. So true. That boy’s got his priorities right!

[@youcantseeme2567]

truee🤣

[@evelynnguyen1125]

Not when you are about to get disown.

[@typhus1965]

What Max said is very true, except for in Korea. That Soonung (Korean SAT) test is unfortunately everything. It dictates their whole future and what university they can go to. The questions on that test are ridiculous. I have a Masters in TESOL, and I tried a bunch of questions from it. I barely got half of them correct. It's a test Korea needs to rethink and make it more like the English we use, and not the Korean/Japanese mathematical English they teach in Korea.

[@F_M20]

@@typhus1965 so true, not even half of those odd words (sounds like a words that came out from Harry potters movie) is usefull in daily life. trust me, in my work place i use english daily basis, but that exam is just riddicullusly wierd.

[@whowantsbrowncheese1684]

Lmao I need to hear this before I move out of university

[@unloosedhades]

For those wondering about the English language used here, it isn’t to test your ability to fluently speak it in every day life but to understand scientific essay writing or similar as most books for these things are written in English. Hope that clears some questions

[@zzz3556]

But the writing of exam is really poor even for academic writing standards. Writing like the one shown in the video is by no means good for academic publication.

[@mominabutt5021]

But it’s not that the writing is super advanced or formal… it’s just plain wrong. It doesn’t make sense lol. You don’t want to be speaking gibberish in scientific essays.

[@vermillion2580]

I read only scientific papers in english, and my native language is not english. I have never seen one written like that.

[@Denturess]

@@mominabutt5021how is it wrong english tho? The first question, you just pick the sentence that gives you wrong info. All of it was correct English. And the second example about the “flow” was bit weird because like he said “what is the flow?” I thought “which sentence does not belong in this text?”which would be advertisements. But even tho English is my native language I would fail this exam as I wouldn’t be able to analyse the question’s meaning and the text’s meaning and answer all in approx. 1.5 minutes/question. These 2 questions alone took me 10 minutes. Idk…these don’t feel too different from actual essay questions I’ve gotten. But I feel bad Korean students are the ones doing these….why?

[@revilokid]

@@Denturess yeah man I feel the same, like they don’t seem wrong and by all of the rules English has they are valid sentences it but they are just, not even bad just wrong. This is like beyond the syntax wrong. My best guess is that someone wrote English perfectly but with Korean language meaning/mindset or something. Just a guess maybe it’s easier for Koreans to have it like this.

[@Vicky-jj7zi]

호주 이민온지 20년이 되었네요. 한국 수능 영어문제를 푼적이 있는데 외국인들이 사용 안하는 단어나 문장을 어렵게 꼬아 놓은 느낌이었어요. 그러니 대학 졸업후에도 영어를 제대로 말하지 못하는 문제가 있는것이지요. 언어는 무조건 대화가 되어야 하는거 아닐까요.

[@kokoro1105]

영어교육이 잘못되었다는 점에는 공감합니다. 다만, 수능 영어시험의 지문들안 실제 영어 서적들에서 발췌한 지문들입니다. 출제자들이 만든 것이 아니구요. 따라서 외국인들이 사용하지 않는 단어를 일부러 어렵게 꼬았다는 말은 적절치 않습니다.

[@user-fm9su7gj5q]

아뇨. 수능 영어는 회화능력을 평가하는 시험이 아니죠. 준비하면서 키워지는 능력도 문제 해결 및 추론 능력, 독해력입니다. 본질적인 능력치를 올려주는 시험이기 때문에 오히려 대학에 가면 원서나 논문을 읽는데 큰 도움이 됩니다. 한국 학생들이 다 외국에 나가서 살 건가요? 자기 전공의 논문이나 원서를 잘 읽을 정도면 되지 않을까요? 애초에 한국에서 수능 영어 준비를 열심히 한 학생이라면 기본적인 대화는 가능합니다. 만약 회화실력을 더 키우고 싶다 하면 회화 학원도 많고 화상영어도 있는데 병행하면 될 일이죠. 그리고 문제의 지문은 학생들이 대학에 가서 수행할 능력이 있는지 보는 거기 때문에 모두 외국의 논문에서 발췌한 것들이지 따로 만든 지문들이 아니에요.

[@user-yj3pn3mf2i]

왜이리 핀트를 못잡는 사람이 많지? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아니 우리나라 사람이 외국인하고 대화하려고 영어를 배우겠냐? 외국인이랑 말할 기회가 얼마나 있다고.. 외국대학을 가는 것도 아니며, 말그대로 대학 "수학" 능력시험임. 대학에서 공부할 능력을 평가하는거라고

[@ktu1544]

@@user-fm9su7gj5q 기본적인 대화 가능한 거 맞아요. 상대방이 "이름이 뭐에요?" 같은 말을 느리게 4초동안 말해준다면요. 그리고 이게 수능 영어듣기 수준이구요. 사실 이럴거면 영어듣기 빼고 독해 더 풀게 만드는 게 이득인데 말이죠...

[@ktu1544]

@@user-yj3pn3mf2i 그 논리면 영어듣기는 폐지해야 됨.

[@batnaana]

since this is their last year, it's kinda sad we won't see them do challenges again :(

[@jayeyarts6394]

I'll miss Maxxx

[@siddhisharma3796]

seriously

[@dungnguyenthimy9586]

does anyone know which year were they born in?

[@_222wo3]

@@dungnguyenthimy9586 if they are (year 11 late 2005-2006) (year 12 late 2004-2005) (year 13 late 2003-2004)

[@dungnguyenthimy9586]

@@_222wo3 oh yeah, thanks

[@Inezzzzie]

Am I the only one who thinks Armand looks like he could be James Potter? He is also a Head Boy lol

[@anmliea]

they should cast him lol

[@sunshinewing5517]

Whats head boy?

[@stanwiggrouptwice6340]

@@sunshinewing5517 he’s like the student leader of the school, the head students usually run student council and speak at events etc

[@19jacinta88]

Doesn't Orlando look like Ben Barnes here?

[@mindstone6883]

I think he looks like a male version of Margot Robbie.

[@doggachidie]

8:25 한국 교육자들은 봐라………….. 영어가 모국어인 사람도 못 푸는 영어 문제를 영어가 외국어인 사람이 푸는 건 말이 안 된단 말입니다 ㅠ

[@user-ec6yn3yo2b]

당연하죠 수능영어는 외국인들을 위한 시험이 아니니깐요

[@doggachidie]

@@user-ec6yn3yo2b 그만큼 어려운 문제를 푸는 게 힘들다는 뜻인데용 ㅠㅠ

[@ASH_X_ORDINARY]

뭐가 자꾸 쳐어렵다는거야 이번 9평 드럽게 쉽게 나왔구만 15분 남기고 100점 나왔다 걍 무지성 억까충들 특인가 수능 준비도 안해봤으면서 맨날 문제타령만 하노;;

[@makeenarose9270]

I have no trouble finding the right answers, probably bcs my school also use the same type of questions for our english exam. Once you understand the pattern u can get the answer by glance. The different is, korean use non practical words to make the passage looks harder bc sometimes u really dont have to understand the whole paragraph to get the answer. you only need to choose which one stand out more. Which mean, the whole exam doesn’t test their understanding and comprehension of the language itself.

[@lindaburkhardt6430]

As a teacher in the US I love these British high schoolers. They are very well spoken and seem well mannered also. I'm sure, like all of us they have their moments! But they really do shine and have wonderful, charismatic personalities! And they are correct... I think our educational system in the west has slipped, but perhaps the Korean system could lighten up just a bit ... I hate to hear of young people being so, so stressed and even potentially harming themselves because of exams that will not necessarily determine your whole future. Stay strong and fighting!

[@unaestrella1876]

I'm a year 12 student in the UK, these British 'high schoolers' are so well mannered but that's kinda rare to find. I'm pretty sure s lot of the higher schoolers in the US are nice and well mannered :). I just have to say though- I answered the first Korean question truthfully read all the sentences and answered number 3. Surprised I got it right. I think this test would be harder for people in Korea because English isn't their first language but if you were taught to learn and revise in this teaching style you could definitely ace a multiple question choice paper in 70 minutes. Question and exam paperd in the UK are never multiple choice.

[@michellecampbell1926]

in korea the exams do determine their entire future :(

[@lifewithoutstress2684]

These tests do determine their futures. It’s like the SATs but then times worse. It is very competitive and one could even say cut throat.

[@tae_taecookies1238]

Same here in our country "Algeria" we also have this "baccalauréat" exam which determines the future of your whole fuckin life!!

[@jamesbrowny9488]

@@tae_taecookies1238 Really ?? Cause here in France, it depending of which school you want to atend. There's 2 ways: 1 -> people who want the best "prépa " in order to atend the most selective school of the country (like H.E.C, Polytechnique, Normal supérieur...). 2 -> people who directly after the baccalauréat go to the university and after try to enter in a selective school. Cause here, you can't go directly to certain selective school after the baccalaureat, you need to firstly go to the university. Personally I'm in law and I want to enter in the E.N.M (very selective one, there's only 200 places) in order to be a public prosecutor or a judge.

[@leie9636]

There’s no way Armand is even real this dudes straight out of a comic I hope everyone here pays off! Thanks for entertaining us all on the show!! GOOD LUCK IN UR FUTURES :)

[@ncgo8308]

that is sooo truee!

[@eryxmartinez8915]

He looks like a guy from a book cover. You know those mafia books. I kid you not.

[@Sashajuvua]

OMG IKR!!!

[@chibunayo9464]

I'm convinced that Armand is having some kind of reverse isekai or sumn

[@Sashajuvua]

@@chibunayo9464 what is that?

[@Happy_Rudolf]

이거 보고ㅋㅋㅋㅋ "대체 영어권 사람도 못푸는 문제를 우리보고 어떻게 풀라는건데??" 라는 생각 엄청 했다 진짜..ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ.. 어이없어. 난 영어권 사람들은 다 저런 언어들 쓰는줄 알았어.

[@HoYjune30]

근데 우리도 국어 풀면 개어렵자나... ㅋㅋ

[@user-uc8gv8kd4b]

수능 영어 교육과정과 수능은 대학에 진학해 읽을 영어 논문 이해를 위해 고등학생이 갖춰야할 영어 실력을 갖추게 하는 거라고 하더라고요. 그래세 글의 주제와 제재도 철학, 사회학에서 많이 나오고 어렵게 쓰여있는거... 근데 좀 너무 필요 이상이긴 해요

[@user-ng3dj9rs3j]

@@user-uc8gv8kd4b 그러니까요... 왠만한 언어들 다 할 수 있는 타일러가 논문 수준도 못 읽을리 없는데 수능 영어를 틀린다는건 그냥 문제가 좀...

[@MH-mhmh]

I might be the only one who wants to see the question paper. I saw the passage and now I'm curious 😅

[@farheenjawaid6260]

Same, I really want to try it out

[@Pikachewzz]

search up "Check your English ability with 'notorious' Korean college entrance exam" and the korean times article that pops up should be correct, they translate the questions for you and you can check your answers in the parentheses where it says to click 'here'.

[@MH-mhmh]

@@Pikachewzz thank you 😊

[@lonael6699]

" stress is the enemy, exams aren't the end of the world, health is wealth " truer words have never been spoken

[@deadcherries1454]

i needed to hear that

[@lonael6699]

@@deadcherries1454 💕

[@user-hx6lk1ps5w]

that Max kid is one wise fella :D

[@kandyapple2210]

This has to be the best promotion ever for any school in the UK. The personality of these boys just shines. Very well spoken, having a lot of fun, engaging, supportive, articulate, smart, energetic and living life. Full credit to the school leadership and the culture. This is amazing.

[@flodderr]

except they seem to be quite dumb

[@loveicecream9947]

@@flodderr the Korean English test itself didn’t even follow grammatical rules

[@nasriayahsolaiman7130]

@@flodderr u saying this makes you dumb srsly

[@exthxr_04x21]

@@flodderr a Korean English test is extremely different to an English exam in the UK, they’re just not used to it. English a levels r very hard too

[@antukinann1070]

@@flodderr I read this kinds of tests from my korean friends and tbh I found a lot of grammatical errors and words that are just put up just to look formal or eloquent, furthermore it’s torture to put students to this kinds of tests especially if they don’t even speak a lick of english in their everyday life. No wonder my korean classmates are scared to speak in english because they’re scared to make mistakes

[@user-rv3uh6fl3p]

많은 분들이 도움되었을거 같아요~~굿입니다~~^^ 저도 수능영어강사로서 더 노력해볼게요~~~

[@jisunkim3081]

영국남자분이 한국에 대해 좋게 소개해주셔서 좋아요!맛있는 음식들 더 많이 소개시켜주셨으면 해요!애국심 작렬~!

[@RuyLopezTheSicilian]

If Josh and Ollie met in high school I think they'd be like Armand and Max

[@Hyeyeon952]

yesss! hahahah they give off the same bestie vibes!!!

[@jt-qe4xu]

yesss

[@oht6ni]

yess

[@LindaC616]

Yes not just because of their appearance but also because of their personalities

[@elsamaulidiah5053]

🤣

[@dorothy5195]

이걸보고 전세계 공통점을 알게 됬다 1 문제가 잘풀리지 않으면 두손으로 머리를 쥐어잡고 짠다 2 집중할려면 귀를 막는다 3 에라 모르겠다 답을 찍는다 4 하교후 나의 일을 선생님과 남에게 들키고 싶지 않다 ^^

[@user-yb2te2dl9g]

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@user-ws1lz6jc7b]

오 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@graceaxisa4213]

As an educator who teaches teenage boys, I found this incredibly funny and entertaining. These boys' reactions remind me 100% of how my students here in Australia would react! Their honesty and humour are such a delight. As for the sentence structure of the passage that was read out, it was incredibly complex, weaving its way, this way and that (I think I was able to follow it 😅). Oh and that TicTok app story had me in stitches!

[@Realsmurfcat3000]

This is so wholesome I CANN'TT❤️❤️❤️

[@graceaxisa4213]

@@Realsmurfcat3000 ❤️😅🤗

[@oliver-wm5zc]

3:29 "How do I know what doesn't fit the flow- WHAT IS THE FLOW?" "still on question one?" "Yes bro" LMAO THIS IS HILARIOUS 😂😂😂

[@camelopardalis84]

I'm a non-native speaker of English and maybe "flow" isn't the best expression to pick in the eyes of a native speaker, but I get what they meant and found it quite obvious that the correct answer was number three. Did you read the question?

[@EvaRunaway]

I laughed so hard at this 😂

[@aciln]

😭

[@MM-jf1me]

@@camelopardalis84 Looking it over again, I agree that question 3 must be the correct answer, but "flow" seems like it would refer to ease of readability. He kept getting caught up in the beginning because none of the sentences had good flow. A better question would replace the word "flow" with "topic".

[@tensuranikki3529]

The channel actually hand picks the most difficult questions from the exam, and giving the median time to answer them 1min/question. In reality the test comprises of a lot of easy questions that can be answered within seconds. Thus even being wrong at all the complicated ones doesn’t immediately equate failing as it can be compensated by the easier ones. Trust me, I’m currently attending college in SK and have lots of korean friends!

[@buttarain27]

I used to teach English in Korea and even assisted with test preperation at the middle school level (format is all the same starting in middle school) and I think there is a misconception about English education in Korea. Korean students aren't taught English to speak it, they are taught in regards to what is seen as eductional prestige in their country (what looks good on paper, that can propel and solidify your employment in an elite company). Most Korean students don't care about learning English for communication purposes (many students score high on the English part, yet have no plans of stepping foot outside of the country) they care about "learning English" for presitge, high-end job placement and the status it gives. Students who actually WANT to learn English or know how to speak English, don't learn through school; they learn in their own time through hobbies, media, engagement, immersion, high interest in the language and being very open to speaking with native speakers whenever possible (just like things you would do if you wanted to genuinely learn a new language).

[@nagnusyo]

I agree. If you wanna learn how to speak and communicate in English, you should go abroad, not studying for the exam. For English proficiency, IELTS is actually valid in my opinion. In fact, many people who have lived abroad understand what the problem is. So many educated Koreans are deciding to live abroad for educational purpose. But the funny thing is, I found people tried to justify this problematic English exam. They are saying like "The exam tries to evaluate students' academic paper reading skills." "The exam pursues on finding people who has high intelligence." None of these arguments doesn't make sense.

[@rockthecasbah6450]

It's the same thing here in Malaysia. The rigidly official English taught in middle schools are boring and most students who are fluent English speaker don't actually learned it from school. They learned from watching movies, listening to music or any hobby that is usually presented in English. I myself didn't learn English from school, it was boring and taught by mostly unqualified English teachers

[@rockthecasbah6450]

@@nagnusyo that's interesting to note. An acquaintance of mine scored just average level of proficiency in the Malaysian English test. But she managed to be a top scorer in the IELTS in Malaysia and won monetary award.

[@dregus3385]

Korean language will sound funny and strange if they are taught to speak it, because codeswitching is very much possible, like what we do here in the Philippines, here, English is very much necessary for communication purposes, in preschool upto the end of elementary the rules are very strict compared to highschool to college, its necessary to speak in english only, if you speak in filipino or in any other filipino lang, they give you such creative punishments, like paying money everytime you talk in filipino or you're the badge holder 👀

[@devashrijoshi9079]

Ikr? Not a native English speaker here but hey I learnt English the same way. Fun fact: I was actually the English topper of my school in 10th grade & I was surprised Imao

[@user-qh9hp2iw3i]

작년에 수능치고 대학 들어와서 다시 보는 영상인데.. 정말 올해도 우리나라 학생들 너무 수고했다는 걸 느낍니다..ㅠㅠ 이 영상도 2년 전이라니.. 지금봐도 너무 잘생겼지만 추억을 돌아보는 것 같은 앳된 느낌이 들기도 하네요..🥲

[@kimwilliams5165]

Thank you, I needed the laugh. The way they fell apart for question #3 is every student who didn't study. The fact that this became a personality test is so funny. The boy who said trust fate, is a free spirit who believes in the good of the world. The boy who said to each pick one and one of us will get it right is a think outside the box problem solver who just wants the best for everyone. The boy who covered his ear is a focused mind who walks to the beat of his own drum. The fact that they all just were like guess in the end is classic test strategy. Great job, feed these boys.

[@user-pp1ff3kt5g]

Why does Armand and Max feel like Josh and Ollie if they were in High School..

[@darlenefae]

omg i didnt realize until you pointed it out but this is so true

[@Linanid]

Omg you’re on to something!!

[@themoon5201]

EXACTLY

[@yennitrianda5504]

I like what Max said “Stress is the enemy. Exams aren’t the end of the world” Very well said, Max

[@Kimchibokumbab]

한국인:하지만 인생의 전부가 아닌 일부인 시험조차 통과하지 못하면 앞길은 더 험난해진다

[@MichaelHarto]

"Health is wealth" Priorities!

[@yennitrianda5504]

@@Kimchibokumbab Yes to some people, but not to all of people I guess. I knew people who live a normal, happy and successful life even without passing the exams.

[@yennitrianda5504]

@@MichaelHarto Totally agree with this!

[@user-cp3vn9gt9l]

really it is.. the exam is not not all… 😒 many Koreans also think so. but, exams don’t say that🤣😭

[@lauralee4800]

I just attempted the test and i was surprised how difficult it was. My parents are korean and studied the english there before moving to the US. Personally, the test was manageable and i did decently well (missing only a few questions). In retrospect the only reason i did well is because my parents are literature teachers and i have been reading since I was two. This just goes to show that it doesnt mean people in Korea have a better equipped English skill set, it just shows how unbelievably strict and high the standards have been set for Korean students.

[@trebleclef9844]

No the way of your thinking is incorrect, its not about speaking english like a normal person, its taking the definition to the maximum, like making the question as hard as possible

[@kenkei.mwaniki]

Where can I get the test? I'm really curious to try my hand at it

[@DgekGhkkd]

맞습니다 😢

[@user-cs4cp4hc9f]

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 웃다가 배꼽빠질뻔했어요 ㅋㅋㅋ 다들 너무 긔여버🤣♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@mariemichellequintos4292]

I really love Max and Armand tandem. No wonder why Armand is the headboy.

[@ivak8988]

What is a head boy??

[@MrJoe6177]

@@ivak8988 its basically the student that was chosen to be the face/representation for the school.

[@jia9420]

@@ivak8988 something similar to a school captain I think

[@stacystacy6577]

Who is Armand

[@sungchogue]

@@stacystacy6577 the handsome guy wearing glasses. the right one with smart n tidy uniform

[@iseetheendisnear2416]

The test isn’t just “hard.” It expects Korean students to correctly analyze formal texts _full_ of logical inconsistencies and improper word usage. Like putting “while” between two harmonious sentence components (“then” would make much more sense). The sentence structure does not follow a consistent rhythmic style, making reading difficult whether you speak native English or not. The text isn’t just verbose, but overloaded with information that isn’t supported by necessary stylistic organization.

[@mehrotra06]

Wtf is a harmonious sentence 💀💀💀

[@pillyhere]

@@mehrotra06 Obviously, a sentence that is coherent and grammatically correct. lol

[@chrishayes5755]

It's not even that complex if you look at the question they showed on screen. It's similar to IQ test questions. It's just a little bit tricky, you need to take your time and really focus. The kids were more interested in joking around than taking the test seriously, because 1) the results have zero effect for them and 2) the video needs to be entertaining.

[@mehrotra06]

@@pillyhere obviously 🥲🥲✨✨✨

[@Marina-nt6my]

But this is what annoys me about it though. It's not necessarily hard because it's high level, it's just confusing because it's badly written.

[@TedBarton91]

Question one - Number 3. It makes more than enough sense. None of it seems massively incorrect, it just uses terminology and speech patterns most people don’t. Give this test to a solicitor and see how they do, I bet they’d smash it.

[@xaoins]

Or maybe for them.. it doesn't make sense so shut up

[@jcorrea6515]

I was thinking number 1 because it’s the only one that centers it’s subject on something other than humor itself/qualities of humor, and rather focuses on the example’s story and what reactions it evoked.

[@jcorrea6515]

Looking back It (number 3) actually does make the most sense as it’s the only sentence that doesn’t focus around bonds between workers or a collective

[@ian3523]

its not about being incorrect its just way too unnecessary, even native speakers are struggling. that just shows how irrelevant it is and sometimes the sentences barely make sense and most answers are correct in one way or another

[@jessicataylor7174]

@@jcorrea6515 I literally did not understand the question properly so I focused on the English itself (as it's supposed to be an English test). 1 should have read "...at face value..." instead of "on its face"; 2 had the weird last few words "...and do not." added to the end, which doesn't flow properly either. Obviously I didn't understand what 'flow' we were even supposed to be looking at! :D

[@viis374]

In Germany we all take our exams on the same day as well. I also sat an English exam with it as my second language but our exam consisted of writing summaries, analysis, a discussion and a mediation (mediation means you write to an English speaking friend about a German text and have to roughly translate the information that is most useful to your friend)

[@mellonmarshall]

in the UK it takes like 6 weeks to do all the exams for the GCSEs and A-levels but you not actually doing exams day in or out, you might have 1 or 2 one day and then another few days later or none for week, on top of this they have the mocks for Year 10 and SATs for Year 9 so it like from Easter to End of June, there is just a hall set up for exams

[@moxyliebtjan]

That’s not true lol. Which school did you go to?? In a german high school we only have one final exam in one day. We usually have all final exams in one week.

[@shalomnguseni7258]

I’m going to miss this class. They were a bunch of lovely and respectful boys. Wishing them all the best.

[@fadhelfarras1175]

Armand's words is just so powerful "failure isn't that bad, it's not the end of the world, you can do loads of things, especially in an exam like this, where you're judged on circling a number" damn...that's powerful...and I love what Max said "health is wealth" 그리고 당신은 입학 시험에 참가할 고등학생들에게 최고입니다. 인생은 어느 대학에 등록했느냐가 아닙니다. 시험에 낙제하더라도 할 수 있는 일이 많으니 낙심하지 말고 최선을 다하십시오.

[@whowantsbrowncheese1684]

In Asian culture failure literally means end of the world I swear 💀💀

[@theplainest]

@@whowantsbrowncheese1684 right? I worked in an elementary school in Korea and their futures are basically determined by the time they're in 5/6th grade based on these tests 😞

[@whowantsbrowncheese1684]

@@theplainest it’s pretty sad 😞

[@s.o.j4656]

한국의 학생들은 공부에 의한 성공 아니면 실패라는 말을 들으면서 성장합니다. 그렇기 때문에 그들에게 시험은 세상의 모든 것입니다. 그렇기 때문에 시험을 잘 치지 못해서 최상위대학에 가지 못하면 실패한 인생이라고 스스로에게 실망하면서 성인으로서의 첫시작을 하는 사람들이 많습니다. 저 또한 그랬습니다.

[@just_solie]

It's such an obvious thing but sometimes it takes so much time to actually realize it (due to the peer pressure, school, parents, work etc.).

[@user-zo6is6it6z]

아르망 당신 때문에 지금 공부에 집중을 할 수없어요 당신의 미모때문에 흑 졸라 잘생겼어 저런 사람이 실제로 있는 줄 몰랐는데 진심 존잘

[@user-cb6sz7np7d]

이 친구들 영상 보고있으면 내아들도 저리 즐거운 생각하며서 살았으면 좋겠어요~^..^ 계속 웃게 만드는 친구들이에요~

[@karthinashree3122]

The British high schooler series are literally one of the best series I have ever watched..❤✨ They brought smile on my face just in a second watching them. Thank you Josh, Ollie and the entire team for this amazing series.. Please bring this boys to Korea to explore more of their culture and food..

[@wenwen_art]

I like this series too, so refreshing

[@vislee9386]

right~~how lovely lovely boys they are~watching them with a big smile

[@la4598]

I couldn't agree less, love them

[@PatriceEvra3]

It's funny how Armand is known to be the top of his class as well as being head boy and even Harvey acknowledged how prepared he'd be... ...then a minute later he was struggling big time. Lol

[@rucylululiu5835]

🤭ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@user-sy1tt4uy7t]

한국 06:00 등교 17:00 수업 19:00 보충수업 22:00 야자끝내고 하교 03:00 학원 끝 및 귀가 무한루트

[@user-vm6kj4ug2l]

영어권 친구들이 틀리는 영어문제라니..... 문제가 있는거같아요 ㅋㅋ 한국 고등학생들은 안됐음 ㅠㅜ

[@kimseon9348]

우리도 국어 시험 어려워 하잖아..

[@DgekGhkkd]

​@@kimseon9348국어도 영어급으로 내니까 ㅋㅋ

[@Hannah-so5vg]

As a Korean med student who’s never lived outside of Korea before, I’d always finish this exam(45 questions) in like 40~50 minutes and go to sleep. The thing is, these students in the video were all new to the questions and the exam itself, but actually the order&pattern of questions are always the same, each year. Only the passages are new. So the students would take loads of mock tests before actually taking the exam, and train so that they’d know where to look at/read even when they’re facing an unfamiliar passage. It’s more like training for the exam itself and not studying a language 😂 Some of my friends nailed the test and wouldn’t be able to have a small talk with native English speakers +)This doesn't mean that the exam itself would be easy though, since u still have to be able to comprehend all those sentences and vocabularies. For most students that is hard enough 유학 갔다 온 적 없고 항상 수능영어 40~50분컷 하던 의대생의 입장에서 말해보자면 수능영어 준비는 영어 공부보다는 훈련에 가까운 것 같아요 😂 영국 학생들은 수능 자체가 완전 낯선 상황이지만, 사실은 매년 문제유형도 위치도 같아서 한국 학생들은 지문을 다 읽지 않고도 새로운 지문을 만났을 때 어디부터 읽어야할지를 아니까요. 적어도 계속해서 그걸 위해 연습하고요! 그러다보니 대부분의 수능 과목이 그렇겠지만 영어는 특히 실제 실력보다는 누가누가 시험 준비 잘했나의 경쟁인 듯해요

[@toyangalbina332]

Really? What a shame, so true indeed what the students in the video said. It's ridiculous!

[@chenxiumei]

Whatt so it beats the purpose of actually teaching and making them learn English? Exams are so impractical huhu God bless and good luck to all Korean students out there, fighting!!

[@akooarius]

That's actually very similar with the exams to apply for uni in my country. Every subject has its own pattern, students can almost remember, for example, what question #15 would be about (it'd be a different question every year, but from exactly the same part of materials). I hate it so baaad it's really stressful but many people would probably pass the exams pure by luck.

[@cj-ni3fp]

In the Philippines, we study the English language so that we can apply it in our daily lives. Not only a means to pass your studies or get good grades. One can learn better if what we're learning in school is more practical and can be applied outside school. That's the point why we study right? I hope the Korean education system will be improved for the sake of the students, it might be frustrating for them.

[@joyzalik]

I’m soo sorry for the students. Who made the exam pattern tho. I mean I don’t understand the objective of them making the exam like that. Even academic papers don’t use language like that. Even government budget plans don’t use this kind of language. Whyyyy

[@devinyasas9304]

This was fun to watch. Although, I do agree with one of the comments here that these tests are designed and trained in a way that doesn't really help the student to learn the language but memorize how to do the test by following its patterns through mock exams and possibly past papers. SO for the Fulham boys, please don't be disheartened and I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.

[@moubhattacharyya1141]

It is typically oriental.

[@Termsofseve]

@_ everyone calls it that.

[@Kumorini]

@_ Bruh

[@onetimecupid]

@_ uhhh people call it that

[@eyan4329]

Today I learned koreas curriculum is v similar to Irelands

[@annd5370]

These young men are so cute!! Good job guys! 😅😅

[@chipndaleKDH]

Ayman..?님도 훈훈하고 귀엽고 총명해보여요! 무엇보다 다들 웃음이 많은게 넘 행복해보이고 부럽네요❤

[@kin1485_]

“Who wrote this test? We need to talk” “I'm so sorry Korea. I don't know who wrote this exam. I'll email them. Strong email. This is actually ridiculous.” TOBI GONNA FIND Y'ALL LMAO

[@arrinette8203]

hes gonna find them, you guys r done ! you're done !

[@eurogael]

Man on a mission.

[@wenwen_art]

Now it's his life goals y'all 😂

[@user-hf8xr2in5v]

Be careful guys, tobi is on his way to you😂

[@whowantsbrowncheese1684]

I won’t be surprised if he become sk’s president 😂😂

[@Toawii]

"Alex, do number 5. One of us will get it right." I cracked right tf up. 😂

[@Bazinga-xf6dr]

말하는 거 너무 웃기고 순수함 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@saelee3666]

수능영어 목표는 전공서나 논문 읽기위한 영어임 실생활에 적용하는 영어는 거의 없음 왜냐면 대학에 들어가서 원문서적을 공부할 능력이 있는가 없는가를 보기위한거라서 외국인도 힘들어하는게 이해되죠 우리도 한글로 써져있다고 논문읽어서 다 이해되진않잖아요?그리고 한국인이라고 국어문제를 만점받는 사람은 거의없고요

[@ryukiel2641]

내년에는 반대로 영국의 영어시험을 한국학생들한테 풀게해봅시다 (그냥 재미로 풀어보자는건데 다들 잘 맞추려고하고있는.....)

[@MinsooKangFD]

주관식 많을텐데 힘들지 않을까요 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@hany9012]

영국의 수능 같은 시험인 GCSE, o levels, A levels의 영어는 다 주관식에다 논술이 있어서 불가능. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@kieranl2375]

좋은 아이디어네요. '진짜 영어'가 뭔지 알아야 우리도 변화의 방향을 제대로 잡겠죠.

[@amiupne]

ㄹㅇ 유럽은 문제가 거의다 주관식이랑 논술임 객관식이 많이없대

[@user-ew5ms5kz4z]

@@amiupne 그럼 채점하기가 꽤 힘들겠네요

[@dancingddh8063]

it’s not about learning a language, it’s learning the pattern of the exam. i’m not korean and never took this exam, but i can tell for sure that u shldnt be reading the whole passage from top to bottom for every question. u look at the question first and then look at the parts of the passage that is relevant. this is what korean students do and what the exam board wants them to do. it’s basically a logical thinking exam in english. if u know the pattern and know how to answer these question types, then even if u can’t speak english or know the language well, u can do well in the test. this is why many kpop stars can’t speak english in interviews and only those who lived in english speaking countries before can. they aren’t trained to speak english, they are trained to take this exam that isn’t even testing their english

[@afsheenshah9990]

I am from nepal , that exactly how it is taught . I was fortunate enough to be in school that did give us passages thag were diverse but like in the bored exam its more about if you know the patern or not , the thing that you mentioned about reading the questions first is the key and knowing that the first questions answer is always in the first to 4 line is the knowledge thaf you get . Nepal in the state that you even have a book to tell you the answer and coping the answers a praized more that writing it yourself,English is the only exam i have never studied for till this date , teachers predict the questions and its normally93% accurate. Its basically can you mug ut up at this point , not the thing that you would want for the betterment of your future

[@samiaoishy7862]

@@pierce9019 ayo no education system is that perfect but I'd say South Korea has much better tho we share the same pattern

[@ReyoVR]

This is why I think many of these exams and thus the education systems fail to teach students proper skills to navigate the world after graduating. Students have to spend hours learning these pattern which will not be very translatable to life skills. The exam is just not accurate in assessing the student's actual English skill. If the questions are geared towards testing the students' ability to say construct sentences that are precise and easy to understand, writing passages that sounds graceful, comprehend older literature etc, those will be very useful.

[@arrianne311]

We have a similar test here in Texas that you have to take every year, but starting in 2nd grade it starts to count as an actual grade. We’re tested on reading, writing, math, science and history. A lot of times for the reading and writing I would do the same thing to to the part of the passage that the question was sending me to. 🤣

[@kookie7344]

Ohhh that's why! I'm from India and in our country we are made to write 120-150 words answer of a question given which test our grammatical, vocabulary and how we express ourselves

[@un-heungjung549]

예전에 한번 본 영상이고 오늘 또 보게 됐는데 새삼스레...영어교육의 문제점만 또 드러나게 되네요. 나야...뭐, 수능이 아니라 학력고사 세대긴 하지만...뭐 별반 차이는 없겠죠. 다만...나날이 '지문'의 길이만 엄청 길어지고 있다는 점..ㅋㅋ 예전에 현장일(소위 '노가다')할 때 수능 끝난 리조트(속초에 있는 ..^^)의 풍경을 지켜본 적이 있는데 한달 넘도록 '감금생활'하며 시험문제 출제를 했던 분들이 퇴소(?^^)하는 날 그 현장 울타리를 철거하는 일이었는데... 그때 그 분들 퇴소를 할 때...한쪽에서는 시험문제에 활용됐던 모든 자료들아 파쇄전문 차량에서 전부 처리를 하고 있더라구요. 그 양이 어마무시 하더라는... 트럭으로 몇 대(그것도 한 과목당...^^) 분량의 책과 자료들이 처분되고 있었는데.. 마치 도서관의 책들을 모두 없애버리는 듯한 광경이었죠.. 아....저렇게 수천권의 책을 활용..또는 참고해서 문제를 만들었다??? 한편으론 존경스럽기도 하고..한편으론 왜 저렇게까지 할까? 하는 생각이 들더라는... 암튼, 영어권 학생들조차 헷갈리게 만들 수 있는 영어시험...이라니...이건 좀 문제가 아닐 수가 없겠네요..^^

[@user-ry6xk6sr3k]

수능은 한국에서 정말 중요한 시험입니다. 시험을 준비하는 과정에서 시험출제위원들의 보안을 유지하기 위해서 출제위원들은 격리된공간에서 몇달간 외부와 소통을 금지하여 생활합니다. 가족과의 통화도 직접적으로 할 수 없기에 정말 급한일이 생긴 경우에 중간에 다른사람을 통해 통화내용을 전달받습니다. 정확하지 않은 정보일 수 있지만 제가 알기론 수능문제는 보통 논문을 발최하여 만들어집니다. 실생활 영어도 중요하지만, 대부분 대학교에 진학하여 논문으로 쓰여진 글을 쉽고 빠르게 읽어내기 위한 능력을 기르기위한 시험으로 알고있습니다. 그렇기에 일상에서 쓰는 단어보다는 조금 낯선단어와 표현이 등장하는 것으로 알고있습니다. 수능시험이 정말 중요한 시험인만큼 한문제 한문제 출제를 위해 정말 많은 시간과 인원이 동원됩니다. 영상에 소개된 것 처럼 수능 출제기간에는 비행기가 날지않으며, 컨닝방지를 위해 기존에 다니던 학교가 아닌 랜덤으로 새로운 학교에 시험 전날 배정되기 때문에 늦을 경우 경찰의 도움을 받을 수 있습니다. ( 평소에 사용하던 학용품도 제한을 받으며 시험장에서 제공되는 샤프와 컴퓨터용싸인펜 정도 만이 사용가능합니다 ) 또, 수능을 응시하는 학생들이 대중교통을 이용하다 지각하는 일이 없도록 직장인들, 공무원들의 출근시간이 평소보다 늦춰지기도 하며, 뉴스에서는 수능 일주일전이나 당일 수능에 대한 보도가 증가하며, 해당 년도의 수능에 대한 평가가 보도됩니다. 쉬운난이도였는지 어려운난이도였는지 말입니다. 시험 등급발표와 결과가 나오기전에 많은 사설 인터넷강의 사이트에서 예상등급컷을 예상하며 공식적인 사이트에서 그들이 예상한 등급 커트라인이 제공됩니다. 수능시험은 시험을 치르고 나서 이의를 제시하는 기간이 있습니다. 많은 전문가들, 선생님들, 치른학생들이 시험에 이의를 제의할 수 있기때문에 누구나 납득할 수 있는 정답을 출제하고 있는걸로 알고있습니다. 실용영어를 위해 발음과 실생활영어 문장과 단어에 집중된 영어회화라는 조금 다른분야의 영어를 배웁니다. 여담으로 수능은 매년 목요일에 이뤄지고 있는데, 이유는 금요일에 수능을 치뤘더니 주말을 지내며 자살하는 학생들이 많기 때문에 목요일로 날짜가 변경되었습니다.

[@thepiedpiper1603]

귀하의 솔루션은 정말 좋은 솔루션인가요? 근본 원인을 해결하지 않고 시험 날짜를 바꾸는 것은 어리석은 일인 것 같습니다.... 실수해서 죄송합니다. 저는 한국인이 아닙니다.

[@LuluAthil]

As a Kenyan, I read that passage and immediately knew the answer. I think the way English has been taught in countries where it isn't the native language is just really intense and formal. 😅 I will say though, it gets less verbose for us as you get into high school and only gets weird again when writing papers in university! 😂

[@ezenwanyi3756]

yeah generally for non-native speakers it’s simpler. that’s why when immigrants come to the US they question why the curriculum is so easy compared to their place back home. 😭 i’m going for nigerians because that’s what i’m but they make me feel extra stupid when they come to america and understand things so easily. i’ve even noticed this with indian immigrants they make you feel like you’re failing and it’s literally a secondary language to them. 😭 it’s really crazy.

[@78cottoncandy]

English is my primary language but I could also understand the questions pretty well. I’m in college though and have a lot of practice reading dense research papers. Maybe when it’s your native language, you’re used to barely having to focus to understand so it’s difficult without practice to focus more? Versus with a second language, you’ve always put more focus into it.

[@ReeYuuJee]

As a Foreigner, after learning 12 years of English I can confirm that these SAT tests are absolute cringe and useless in teaching you anything of use in life. One is better off reading off of comic strips found in an abandoned run down bathroom. No wonder the general skill level of foreigners is so pathetic.

[@JustAnotherLondoner]

@@ezenwanyi3756 Tbf when speaking of the American curriculum its really easy to British people too 😂 American education is extra easy.

[@lukeh4946]

@@78cottoncandy bro I’m a junior in hs and I knew it

[@user-ou9yi8pw6h]

나는 그냥 현지인처럼 유창하게 영어를 잘하고싶지 저렇게 어려운 문제들 풀기 싫음...

[@AdelaideStJohn]

You don’t need to these tests are so confusing to learn English. But you can do it!

[@user-ou9yi8pw6h]

@@AdelaideStJohn thank you 😊

[@Cheongju_National_Monkey]

인정이요 저도 영어를 유창하게 잘하고 싶지 어려운 문제 풀기는 싫어요ㅋㅋ

[@garydomaz1849]

As a native English speaker, the English on this exam is incorrect. Please do not follow this exam and how it uses English. Someone said it correct earlier, it shows you how to read English, not to properly speak it or understand.

[@usernameisusernam]

I'm not even that good at English tests here (usa) and its my native language lol

[@user-si9rl3pg3i]

초딩때 영어쌤이 틀어주신 채널!고3된 지금도 가끔 와서 보는데 여전히 재밌어요ㅋㅋㅋ

[@bp5276]

Max is a legend ..

[@norahnin19]

Armand seems like a really decent guy. He is handsome, smart and kind. Life is just sometimes really unfair xD

[@gelkim7589]

He’s God’s favourite. 😂

[@tolerance711]

Wdym sometimes life has always been unfair 😭😂

[@aaidenbb7454]

한국 중고등 영어교육은 영어를 가르치는게 아니라 오로지 누가 더 빡세게 공부했는가 라는 변별력을 위해서만 존재합니다.

[@sinmyoung77]

과목명을 바꿔야 될듯 변별력영어로

[@bananaco_]

그냥 언어 교육의 본질에서 벗어남

[@IsaaaValorant]

정확하다

[@user-rw6em1ny6w]

국어 수학도 마찬가지 아이들에게 지식을 가르치기보단 머리에 누가 더많이 집어넣느냐 누가 기계보다 더 잘푸나 더해서 부모님의 경제적풍요까지 더해져야한다 썩은교육

[@TogaHimiko520]

@@goood100 국어 몇 등급임?

[@magripinop]

Max nailed it with health is wealth and exams are not the end of the world. Good for you Max

[@krysd18]

I don't know if anyone caught it but the first question was almost exactly something you would be asked on the SAT in the U.S. I am sure the rest of the exam is much more difficult than the SAT as many prepare for over a year and still fail. Good luck for anyone taking the CSAT or the SAT/ACT!

[@herbtea8994]

아르망은 그냥 회장님이구나.. 정말 회장님 스타일이야.. 하이틴이 가능한거였어..

[@hans3986]

Are you a student also

[@Peko-chan]

매력있어요

[@dnjsRnfp]

남잔데도 얼굴 감탄하면서 봄..진짜 잘생겼네

[@ZUNO9121]

ㄹㅇ 인성좋고 잘생기고 똑똑한 모범생 그냥 완전 학생회장

[@limk7023]

와 아르망 학생 회장 성적 합산 물어보고 시험지보고 자신있다며 눈 반짝거리는거 봐 학교 성적도 거의 만점이라는데 아르망은 외모도 배우급으로 잘생겼지만 두뇌도 명석하고 보통 비범한 애가 아니구나

[@tarotrovlanc9]

잘보고 갑니다~♡

[@Spoiledbabe1011]

These guys are all hilarious! I wanna be friends with them

[@chocoalmondfudge]

No matter what country are you, their reactions are so relatable 🤣 Harvey: "No cheating, alright?" Tobi: "Wait, hold on. What is this?" "I put 2 coz I copied Alex" Ray: "I'm just gonna do it with my eyes closed, whichever one my pen lands on." Orlando: "I got you bro. Number 4 for number 10. I did number 3. Alex, do number 5. One of us will get it right." I can imagine Malachi trying the exam 😂

[@bessieb2085]

Bro this is what i did with my friends on an actual exam hahah

[@keira1194]

Its not cheating. Its team work. 😁😁

[@minhee7]

This is a team exam

[@omgnousernameavail]

It really is a shame that Korean students spend YEARS learning English that they can’t use in a practical way. They work so hard yet when they want to go in for an interview in English or make English speaking friends, they can’t apply what they spent years learning in school. It’s definitely time to reevaluate the academic system and curriculum in Korea.

[@MrSajutong]

맞아요ㆍ정확한 지적입니다

[@BiehahNabihah]

I agree. That's why I always tell my students (in Malaysia) that doing well in ur English exam =/= fluent in the language. You might be good in theory, but if you don't actually practice speaking it, there's literally no use to the theory

[@bbol999]

Not necessarily. Problem with Korean English is that a lot of Koreans are conservative and shy ppl and lack of confidence when it comes to speaking. As soon as they overcome these issues, they’re extremely well spoken.

[@clarachan96]

I agree too. I was chatting with my friend that is a student in Korea and she not necessarily have the best grammer and vocabulary all those. But when she show me her English homework I was shocked because I had a difficult time understand it

[@Hundparken97]

yes it is ridiculous!! their English tests are so much harder than ours here in Sweden yet Sweden is top 2 of the countries with the best english for second language. Like why why are those tests so hard if most of them have a problem speaking English in the first place? It's like they have to study word association instead of the actual language that people use. I feel bad for them :(

[@user-gg2wn1kc1r]

재미 하나도 없고 공부만 하는 말이 되게 공감되네요. 물론 전 학원을 이제 안다니지만 뭔가 그냥 자유로워지고 싶네요. 새로운 교육 혁명이ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 일어났으면 좋겠다

[@TryWithSadia]

This high school series brings back memories of going through my own A Level exam. I wouldn’t want to go back to those 6 paper exams but high school was definitely one of the best time of my life

[@chefmandy7243]

The British high schoolers episodes are my favorite. These children crack me up

[@itsnlee]

I wasn't expecting humour but ended up laughing at their reactions. They're so lively and engaging, best of luck to them and students taking this exam !

[@lclclcm]

다들 유쾌해서 좋다 ㅎㅎ

[@moments_0629]

예시로 보여준 문제가 쉽다고 생각했다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 영어는 항상 일등급받다가 졸업했고, 이젠 이십대 후반으로 가고있지만, 나는 여전히 영어회화공부를 하고있음 진짜 실용성 제로 한국 입시영어 .. ㅋㅋ 하지만 불평한다고 본인들한테만 손해임 해야할 시기에 어쨌든 열심히 잘 해내고 나서야, 불평도 할 수 있는거지.... 결국 시스템이란 하루아침에 바뀔 수 없는 거니까ㅋㅋ 😅 그래서 결론은, 한국 고등학생들 부디 힘내시고... 항상 응원합니다.

[@madxinthebox]

"I hope I don't meet people that speak like this." Big Mood. 😂

[@deepakirantirkeynssbhu8966]

Ikr😂 But that's true,non-native speakers like me learn more English ,I mean the way that sounds natural and not forced by exposure to cinema,music rather than through textbooks.

[@user-fo5ex4zb6x]

Fr 😂

[@ruthmsz6240]

"I hope I don't meet people that speak like this" "Eat your sticky sweet and hope" Jayden's words are always very funny 🤣🤣

[@user-gg2wn1kc1r]

우리가 당연하게 치르고 있는 수능 영어 부분을 모국어인 영국 남자들이 조금은 어렵다고 느끼는 점에서 (우리가 언•매랑 화•작을 어려워하는 것처럼요)수능이 어렵다는 사실이 다시금 느껴졌고 이렇게 한국 수능 문제를 풀고 있는 모습을 보니까 그 자체로 감회가 새롭네요. 되게 좋은 컨텐츠인 것 같아여

[@michaelbubbles]

Great video with the Great Vivaldi playing in the background..😙🤌🏻❤

[@user-qq8ll2vk8u]

6:02 와.. 사교육이라는 거 듣자마자 이런걸 바로 생각해내는게 진짜 수준높다.. 바로 정부지원도 물어보는것도 개오지고 이게 교육이라는건가 개멋있다.. 고3이랑 동갑이라니 ㅜㅡㅜ

[@Croatam31]

유럽이나 미국은 토론 위주의 수업이라서 한국 학생들은 맨날 받아들이기만 하느라 스스로 생각을 못 하는 반면 쟤네는 떠올리는 습관이 되어있나봐요. 우리나라도 얼른 토론위주의 교육으로 바꿔나가야해요... 그래야 주도적인 사람들이 되고, 남이 비판을하면 반박할 생각은 못 하고 버럭버럭 화만 내는 병크가 안 일어나죠.

[@Bayern_min]

사고방식 자체가 다르니 ..

[@daniellee-kb9px]

@@Croatam31 평가형식부터 바뀌어야 함. 애들이 토론수업에 적극적으로 참여할 수 있을 정도로 교육과정이 널널하지 않으면 애들 수업 참여 좆도 안하고 인강만 들음

[@googleha3695]

이게 진정한 교육이지

[@user-ul2fh5vg6x]

@@daniellee-kb9px ㅆㅇㅈ

[@user-hn1ii6rr3s]

진짜 아이러니 한게.. 저렇게 모국어임에도 외국인들이 어려워하는 시험을 우리나라에선 다 맞는 경우도 있고 한두개 틀린 사람도 정말 많은데 막상 그런 학생들도 외국 나가서는 제대로 된 회화도 못하는 경우가 정말 많은거,, 이게 교육부가 원하는건가 싶기도하고.. 전국 고3을 공평하게 평가하려면 어쩔 수 없나 싶기도하고...

[@user-se5vo3zc7e]

저런 영어시험은 영어라는 언어를 배우기 보단 문제풀기 위한 논리력이 필요해서 그런 것 같아요 그래도 단어는 많이 외워서 좋을 듯

[@user-tj9kg3zz1w]

회화시험으로 치면 변별력내기도 애매하고 객관식으로 내야하는데 문제내기도 애매하고 ㅋㅋ유학파아니면 답이없어져요 애초에 수능영어의 목적은 영어로 작성된 글을 유기적으로 잘해석하고 응용하는거에요..

[@obpl8085]

그래도 요즘학생들은 전체적으로 회화도 잘하는것 같아요~ 옛날하곤 다른것 같아요^^ 고3화이팅!!

[@user-cv5hh7jh6g]

사실상 논문읽는걸 위주로 보는 시험이죠.. 대학에선 필수로 요구하는 부분이니까 참고 하는수밖에 없네요 ㅠㅠ 올해 고3입니다

[@ingyeomkim5583]

저런 것들 다 외국어 논문에서 가져오는데 우리도 한국어 논문 이해 못하잖아 ㅋㅋㅋ 그런거야

[@user-pe587ui90]

These boys are so cute! And it's true that health is wealth!!

[@chayw0225]

한국수능영어시험문제들을 보면서 이런생각을 했을것같아요~ 지금까지 나는 누구와 이런대화를 한적이 없어!!

[@wolf1916]

이렇게 한국인들이 영어교육을 언어습득으로 받아들이지 않고 시험으로 생각하기 때문에 근원적으로 '틀리는 것'에 매우 큰 부담을 가짐. 이점이 영어를 최소 12년 공부하고도 영어를 한마디로 못하는 사람들로 만듦(틀릴까봐 두려워서)

[@languagedt9029]

니만 그런거 아님?

[@ttttt.tttttt]

진짜 한마디를 하려고해도 문법적으로 틀린건 없는지 걱정하느라 입밖으로 내뱉지를 못함ㅠㅠㅠㅠ

[@Cryth.]

@@languagedt9029 아님.

[@yeocd1077]

근데 직장에서 외국인과 대화가 필요하다면 그냥 내가 아는단어 총동원해서 주절거리게 됩니다ㅋㅋㅋ 그러다보면 영어로 일상정인 대화는 불가능해도 일과 관련된 대화는 어느정도 가능해지죠.

[@user-ov3uq5pv5p]

영어를 의무교육으로 만든게 교육부 최대 실수임

[@user-lq6bu7ot3f]

Max and Armand looks like Ollie and Josh.They're so cute together.

[@rainbowballoon]

I really like Tobi's empathy here and how he wants to write in to protest against the (ridiculousness/ unfairness of the) exam

[@user-nj1gi1xg4b]

뭔가 되게 유쾌하고 자유로운 영국학생들이네요~

[@user-gg5fp4gy8y]

아르망은 잘생기고 성격좋고 공부잘하는 학생인거야..? 혼자 하이틴 찍네

[@user-jl8cg9sx7y]

학생회장임

[@user-wr8gb9dz5w]

@@user-jl8cg9sx7y 갓벽....

[@yj1481]

잘생기고 학생회장에 성격좋고 공부 잘하고 알바로 테니스 가르치는걸로 ..저번에 50달런가 걸고 불닭 다먹기했는데 자기 오늘 테니스 일당이라고...

[@user-mv8ep1zu7k]

진짜 무슨 럭비부 부장하게 생겨서 학생회장…… 최고된다…..

[@user-in2oh4od7k]

헤어진 여친의 집에 찾아가 딸 둘이 보는 앞에서 농약을 마시라고 하고 여친이 딸 앞에선 못마시겠다고 하자 딸 앞에서 칼로 잔혹하게 살해한 넘도 있다. 이넘의 변호사가 누구인지 아는가? 그이름도 유명한 살인자 전문 변호인 이재명이다.

[@danielcho2912]

정말 신기한것은 영어를 한국어로 해석하고 읽으면 이게 무슨 개소리지 하는거임 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@rsilverz9814]

격하게 공감하지만...언어영역도 개판이었던지라...뭘 써놔도...

[@user-oj1yr8wj4n]

답지 보면서도 이게...뭔 개소리야 햇엇네요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 수능 친지 이제 8년이 다됏는데도 여전히 똑같은 수능...진짜...개노답

[@user-cp8mt7kj7d]

쓸데없이 ㅈ같은 수식어구랑 쓸데없이 잘 쓰이지않는 고급단어 개때려박은 문장이 너무도 많음 진짜... 무슨 인문학논문 같은 글귀임

[@amiupne]

@@user-cp8mt7kj7d 아니 진짜 쓸데없는 that절이 너무많다 ㅅㅂ

[@LHUUHL]

@@user-cp8mt7kj7d 실제로 논문, 학술자료, 원서 가져다가 해석하는데에 지장이 생길 정도로 어려운 단어만 학생 수준으로 바꿔 쓰고 다듬어서 출제합니다

[@whalesrock5432]

This test does make sense in English, it’s just very weirdly worded and it took a lot of time to get through only because the language used was weird. In a sense, the first question would have been much easier if the passage said “Shared humor is a good way for people to bond together because 1. Humor helps make people share their experiences 2. Makes people feel included in a group 3. Humor is good to use in commercials 4. Shared humor is almost a requirement in a group setting. This wording makes it super obvious which one doesn’t fit. But the thing is that when formal language is used, people who aren’t used to it have a harder time understanding what exactly is being said. Since it’s said in a way that no one ever talks in that language. It even took me a second to understand the first part of the passage honestly and the difference in test formatting did not help. In conclusion, shout out to Koreans for surviving this testing experience. You all are getting scammed 😅 stay healthy, sleep well, and all that good stuff

[@user-mc9sg4yu1f]

수능은 일상영어가 아니긴해 지문을 해석해야하니깐 약간 국어비문학으로 봐야되는게 맞지않을까? 우리도 비문학 해석하기 힘들어하는데 뭐...