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@daclins3795 Жыл бұрын
i bought the 80 ohm version, what amps do you recommend for it?
@Tripnode019 ай бұрын
try some monolith m1570 you'll never want to pick up bayer again..... gave my dt990 250ohm to my 6yr old never revisited was so night and day ......
@Jason-ir5ig2 жыл бұрын
I have my 80-ohm DT 770s plugged directly into my PC's rear audio port, and I only need to put my volume up to around 20-30 out of 100. I've even used them with my phone with less than half its max volume. I think you might be overestimating how much power is needed to drive the 80s.
@ShiggyCompPt22 жыл бұрын
What mobo you got? Haven’t seen much about just plugging it in pc rear audio port. I got a b550 aorus pro ac, decent board
@uNiandstrize2 жыл бұрын
@@ShiggyCompPt2 my 250ohm works on my phone too. Also at the same volume levels, even on my old PC from 2010 ...
@vedranilic22712 жыл бұрын
Agree, I use hyperx clouds on pc and phone without an amp and they work flawless, they are 60ohm, not a huge difference, 20 ohm difference.
@fhowland Жыл бұрын
My laptop would not drive mine loud enough at all. Needed an amp.
@false-set Жыл бұрын
This is the power vs drive convo you might find that with a nice amp you can get a much better sound at the same volume
@naotekaizoku2 жыл бұрын
Just got the 80ohm version. I used a sennheiser hd25 before which was 70ohm and quite loud on my maudio mixtrack hub. I wasnt sure about the 250ohm version because i didnt knew if the soundcard will power it properly and i didn’t wanted to upgrade that also. The 80ohm version is achieving the sweet spot of loudness for me without fatigueing my ears and having a clean and enjoyable sound while producing and mixing. Hope this helps anyone.
@calenbolo2 жыл бұрын
Plugging these into my Pioneer DDJ, would you recommend 80 for loud base while mixing / djing ? Or 32 for a wider ranger of use
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
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@immanuelboison9028 Жыл бұрын
Can you get me one of the HD25 II...to buy
@GalaxiaDeFavio11 ай бұрын
I'm looking for a pair of headphones for mixing at first I wanted the sennheiser hd600 but my audio interface only can manage up to 200 ohms so I'm looking for this one in the 80 ohms version
@alejandradenizphotography3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing this up, i’ve been back and fourth with the 32 vs 80ohm, im going with the 32’s, thanks so much !
@brodiebrazil3 жыл бұрын
yeah, you won't be disappointed with the 32's. earpads are different (and i do like velour, but) the 32's sound better to me on sources with no amp/high output.
@theorangecandle3 жыл бұрын
Yeah so much conflicting information on 32 vs 80. I decided to go for the 32 ohm as well and bought velour pads separately
@pastoryoda27892 жыл бұрын
if you have a DAC the 80ohm are perfect
@gecko1002 жыл бұрын
@@theorangecandle this i have done too :)
@PerfectMessProductions Жыл бұрын
I think I'm going with the 32 as well
@ceounicom2 жыл бұрын
I went through 4 different headsets (incl BD 770 250s) before getting BD 770 80ohm; i'm using motu ultralite interface which has a decent output but wasn't enough to drive 250ohm bass-levels well at comfortable level. I found the 250s never had enough low end oomph until they were cranked, and the sensitivity on high end was fatiguing at that point. I think the responsiveness of 250s really depends on your source and varies between things like 'movies' and 'music' and different pieces of equipment. They're great if you're going to use one high-end amp and that's it. If you're wearing them all day and switching between 'critical listening' (mixing, recording) and general use, 80's had the most consistent performance for me. The comfort and fit of the BD's is also excellent to wear all day. I found on-ear headphones (like AT M50x) got uncomfortable after extended wear. Depends on your head size, ymmv
@anetavolcano54962 жыл бұрын
hi. Do you use an amp with 80ohm?
@MrMoviePhoneEx2 жыл бұрын
The ultalite couldn't drive the 250's? I don't remember having issues with the m4, different interface, but that surprises me. I've got a UCX 2 fireface now and have had zero issues driving the 250's - which are my favorite set of cans in my setup for mixing and performance, but they are pretty much useless outside of the studio.
@polyphonicgroove2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, thank you. I just bought a pair of DT770 Pro 250 ohm for tracking, so looking forward to using them. Your video definitely helped me to decide between the 250 and 80. Thanks again.
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@christopherstorrier5560 Жыл бұрын
I use the 80ohm version now after owning the 250ohm version...the 250ohm's need a really good interface/amp etc...ok if you have a PreSonus 1018c like myself but i still prefer the sound of the 80ohm version & after burning in with a burn in CD, & plenty of Rap for a week 24hrs on repeat, now they sound superior imo, all our ears are different...they do go more than loud enough so if anyone who has them then mind your hearing... lol...good technical explanation...after 40+ yrs playing music & mixing mates bands i'm more than happy with the 80ohm version...i use Sennheiser HD660s's for serious music listening (150ohm), if your using an interface i would test 250ohm headphones before buying as cheaper interfaces, under £300, might not give enough clean volume as 250ohm is harder to drive & cloudlifter's cost £150 for a single input one...more than the headphones cost brand new....only use 250ohm if you have a decent interface with plenty input gain or a decent headphone dac/amp...not cheap...the only bargain i have heard is the Zen Dac ll (£200-£250 with power supply) which has enough juice to drive 250ohm headphones easily but it's lack of inputs hinders connectivity....i would suggest trying with the equipment you intend to use with various impedence headphones before buying..the 32ohm can be driven by your phone no problem, though they use more battery power than iem's.....that long cable i think comes in handy as i use a rolling/sliding seat to move from side to side, depends on your set-up & what your using them for i guess...good vid bud...👍
@nostgeoffhi-fi Жыл бұрын
Honestly, there is so much unit variance with this headphone model and variables between amps, dacs, burn-in time, and pads, that the difference between a flatter response with 80 Ohm vs more V shaped with 32/250 Ohm is negligible. They are all good at this price range and according to users who have compared them, have very close shaped responses in that characteristic Beyer tuning. I honestly, chose the 80 just to be able to use either amped or un-amped. With the other two impedances, you don’t have a choice either way, it’s one of the other. In fact, some users, like Wheezy Tech have measured the response between the 80 v. 250 and found the 80 to actually be more quote “articulate” and “more dynamic” than the 250, which contradictory to Beyerdynamic’s descriptions, imply that the 250’s may actually present with less clarity, detail, although the 250 and 32 Ohm vers. use that underhanging coil design and less overall coil surface area, supposedly for better mobility and punch. Also, he found pad wear to be a major factor (up to 6db of diff in the treble or bass) in the frequency response of the headphones. Meaning, essentially you can find at what point of your pads life gives you the sound signature you like, and that will tell you when to replace your pads. With factors like these, plus varying subjective reviews, it really negates the issue of impedance differences. So, I literally decided on the 80’s for the greatest compatibility with my gear. I can run amped or un-amped, and if it gives a flatter response, that’s a plus for me. I’m actually looking for a flatter, more accurate response, particularly for my use in listening to my digital piano during practice and recording. However, most of what I have heard from other users is that it is actually more shaped or colored than the graphs shown here by Beyerdynamics, and very close to the other 2 variants if not with more attack in the bass, with less highs. If this is the case, it will still pair well with my iPad + dac amp for listening to movies, flac files, and my hi-if concert recordings when really need to use a closed back for airplane or travel. Thanks for the input, I did enjoy your video and info you shared. Will be interesting to see how these do for my needs, however, I don’t personally have the other variants to compare..
@WayneSmithT41 Жыл бұрын
Maximum power transfer: A term I've had to know about WRT car batteries and starters. The same idea applies to this very good video presentation. For the car starter: the internal resistance of the battery equals the load (resistance) - the starter. Impedance is dynamic (moving coil idea) Impedance matching equates to maximum power transfer - output 250 Ohms and headphones 250 Ohms. IMHO not to throw techno jargon around just adding some food for thought. Once again I greatly appreciate quality sound and a very well done video, like this one.
@OurgasmComrade5 ай бұрын
Headphones don't follow the "maximum power transfer" theorem to operate optimally. They use a hybrid of current source capability, and impedance "bridging" which aims to have the lowest output impedance of the audio device as possible, compared to a higher impedance of the headphones. At least by a factor of 5 to 8, because if not then there will be signal loss (in voltage, NOT watts) and skewing of the low frequency response (for the worse, resulting in bloated and in-accurate bass response because headphones are modelled as a complex RLC circuit, the ratio of resistance compared to inductance and capacitance directly affects transient and frequency response). The max power transfer theorem ONLY applies to radio and very high frequency systems.
@borisdorofeev5602 Жыл бұрын
Very well described info, thank you. I understood everything without needing to rewatch and this is likely the best made headphone impedance description video. I still subbed even though I don't usually care to learn much about audio.
@bwc19762 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this, I'm glad to finally hear someone recommend the 32 ohm version. Also I came here for this review, but will be staying for the aviation stuff. :)
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
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@SDJ418 ай бұрын
The main difference between the three models is the required power it takes to drive the coils to produce the same volume. This has to do with the amount of power delivered to the coils, not the current. Power is not the same thing as current. For example, the higher impedance of 250 ohms means it requires more power to drive the same amount of current through the coils, which may help to produce a more accurate sound. Remember the equation, I = P / Z (current = power in watts divided by the impedence in ohms of the coil or circuit)? So your statement about the current was perhaps unintentionally a little misleading, but I get your point: requiring more power to drive the coil may help to achive a more accurate reproduction of the sound, but a lesser coil impedence such as 32 or 80 may be used to provide the same volume with less power by allowing the coil to conduct the same amount of current due to the lower opposition to current (impedence).
@kidsonblackops7 ай бұрын
I was ready to skip around this video, but you have a talent for explaining things well.
@ppheanix2 жыл бұрын
Would be REALLY REALLY best if the DT's were designed to have a plug in cable like the Audio-Technica ATH-M50x and with the three lengths of cable.
@Souls4Roca Жыл бұрын
they do, on the model that replaced them, DT 700 and 900 pro X
@october65-h6e Жыл бұрын
@@Souls4Roca The new 900 will not replace my 880 either, if only because of the much higher clamping force of 5.3N vs mine of 2.8N(DT 880 Edition). I also have a short neck so I'm concerned that the long plug-in cable on the ear cup will be more of a nuisance on my shoulder than the 880's. I have absolutely no problems with a fixed cable. It's also not supposed to give that much detail, but I've only heard that from hearsay.
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
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@bngr_bngr Жыл бұрын
You can always splice some plugs on your wires.
@ppheanix Жыл бұрын
@@bngr_bngr Having spent BIG money on a kool set of headphones, the last thing I would want to do is behave like a philistine or neanderthal or Cro-Magnon man and insert a bulky 1/8 inch headphone jack & connector in my cable to have it banging around my cheek AND perform the micro-surgery soldering job, but thnx for the thought.
@AlOne-xg6dv2 жыл бұрын
Very detailed and interesting review. I own the DT 770 PRO 80 ohms and use it with a Presonus Studio 24C audio interface which sounds great. The loudest i can get at the maximum level is quite enough, but not overwelming. That's the reason why i think that the 250 Ohms would not be correctly driven with this audio interface to get enough level.
@jonasfrisjel5822 жыл бұрын
This comment helped me. I am trying do deside on my first home studio gear and have desided on the presonus 24c interface and was wondering about headphones. I will start with only one set of headphones and no monitors. My impression is that I could get a more differentiated sound, wich could be better for mixing and making the music sound great, with the 250 ohm, but I understand from your comment that the interface would not be able to drive the headphones and get enough sound. But if I also buy an headphone amp, like the presonus HP4(or HP2?), I can connect it to the 24c and get great volum on the 250 ohm's right?
@nikil07khatri2 жыл бұрын
wow same here A1 One. Thanks a lot. i hve been trying to search allot to find whether 250 and presonus is a right combination and infact google YT amazon reviews failed to help. U r the only on planet i think whose given a review on this combination after using it. u r literally godsent angel. And infact Thanks a ton to Brodie Brazil for first trying to help me choose the ryt impedance and then you dear for cutting out 250 completely outta equation. 😃
@AlOne-xg6dv2 жыл бұрын
@@jonasfrisjel582 yes with an headphone amp like those you mention you will get enough sound
@dutchboy26472 жыл бұрын
Thanks AI One, I have the same audio interface and wasn't sure if the 250 ohm units would work. I have watched a half-dozen of these impedance vids by the "experts" and they have never verbally addressed the whole genre of audio interfaces specifically. The devices that most of us will plug into. At least Beyerdynamic did in writing.
@kenpeters3775 Жыл бұрын
Best review yet for these headphones, thanks! Really helped me with my decision on which variant would work best for my needs.
@xivix6710 Жыл бұрын
*This is my opinion* 1-The 32 ohm has a V-shaped frequency response compared to the other two, so more treble and bass. However I know the least about the 32 version so I will not discuss it here. 2- the 80 and 250 differ manly in treble region, and arguably 250 is more detailed due to its higher impedance. 3-The 250 has an elevated treble and some people perceive it as "too bright" for normal use. The elevated treble could be revelling which is useful for professional use. 4- 80 doesn't have that elevation in treble making it flatter and easier to listen in higher volumes. 5- People who love bass like me should consider getting the 80 as you can rise the volume without getting uncomfortable or fatigued due to the highs/treble. But if you have a powerful amp and love to EQ, you can get the 250 and adjust it to your preference. 6- The 250 and 80 both can be EQed to sound similar to each other. I would say the 80 is more for home use and casual listing. While 250 is more oriented for professional work and critical listing. I got the 80 ohms and have a low shelf filter in the bass region because I enjoy a bit more bass. The meds and highs/treble sounds good to me, so I didn't adjust them. And I find myself using it more than my other headphones. Things to note: 1- the 80 sounded a bit quite to me without amplification. And if pushed on phone to the max the sound is loud but it distorted which is not ideal. I personally use them with ifi Zen Dac powered by usb only, and thats enough to make them sound loud without distorting. 2-At first the 80s sounded very bright and I had to EQ the treble down, but I think as the pads worn-out (or maybe I grew familiar to the sound) the harshness disappeared and now I only have a bass low shelf filter.
@MediaBrad Жыл бұрын
You sound very informative. Is there any reason to use an open backed headphone instead of these closed backed ones as a listener? I'm trying to figure that out before spending hundreds of dollars on a pair of headphones to upgrade from my Bose Bluetooth ones.
@xivix6710 Жыл бұрын
@@MediaBrad Oh didn't notice your comment earlier. Normally open backs sound more spacious with a bigger soundstage and they sound more natural/life-like. Which makes them more immersive. Yet they require a quiet environment as every sound could be heard say things like AC, the road or an airplane passing by. But keep in mind that some headphone break the rule where open backs sound very narrow and close backs sound spacious. To me, I rarely use my open backs because I live in a noisy area. And for the dt770 80 ohms it is spacious and detailed enough for my use case.
@october65-h6e Жыл бұрын
I have the DT 880 Edition with 32 ohm and they are perfect for plug in directly into my notebook. They sound beautiful. I purposely didn't want an amp or dac.
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@Tank1828 Жыл бұрын
Whats up Brodie, from what i get from this is explanation, the 32ohms are great for referencing audio in the field for example documentary/News work the 250ohms are for studio reference and the 80 ohms are for live musicians who really need to to hear specific instruments over the rest of the concert to keep their timing in sync. like when i play the bass i always have to follow the drummer or it will kill the groove.
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
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@albanyrebelion Жыл бұрын
What do you mean exactly by studio reference, closest to the sound of studio monitors/a room?
@JarkkoLaitinen2118 ай бұрын
I have to been use 80 ohm version couple years and sound is good. I did not knowing about this, i just bought them. If you do not know better things you don`t need them. This is good and informative video . 👍
@mpmarvin999 Жыл бұрын
I did notice the 7506 were slightly different in sound than the MDR-V6. I bought a pair of V6s when I was in the Army back in 1988 or so in Germany at the PX. I LOVED those things. I never had a pair of headphones before or after those that have that sound. Life beat them up though. My dog ate the thin fabric covering the drivers (I know how this sounds but it’s true😂) and then my V6s went down hill from there. Broken this, cracked that and they where just holding on by a thread at that point. I dumped them but to this day I wish I hadn’t. Man I miss that MDR-V6. You’re a lucky guy with all those headphones
@saltshaker87773 ай бұрын
Finally a review that helped me decide which to buy. Thanks!!!
@fabiovieira1464 Жыл бұрын
Best review. One of the few that explained the need for a headphone amp to push the 250 ohms sound. That is a very important detail. Otherwise, people can get frustrated with the headphone quality without a headphone amp.
@gaetanobruno58892 жыл бұрын
fantastic. i have the 250. pretty amazing. but i bought right now the 80ohms version for my dad. we use it on a studio but i guess he'll enjoy to mix check on his phone too.
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@b1j11 ай бұрын
Nice work. Couple of comments: 1) You didn't mention that some versions are available with either gray or black velour. I know that applies to the DT770, because I just bought the black set. I suspect it also applies to the DT990 (mine are gray). 2) When I was making my buying decision between 80 and 250 ohm, I was concerned my iPhone and iPad wouldn't drive the 250 ohm version very much at all. So I plugged my DT990 into the phone and pad, and I could hear quite well in a quiet room, which is all I ever listen in. Yes, I needed to go one tap below full volume, but that was OK for casual listening. So I wouldn't say it's true that the phone cannot drive the 250 ohm. Moreover, I think you said a phone won't drive the 80 ohm. Maybe that was true with earlier phone models or something. I have the iPhone 14 and the iPad 9th generation. No noticeable problem. So I went with the 250 ohm. My primary use will be for tracking using a Motu M6, which has plenty of power for 250 ohm headphones.
@hectorleyva82039 ай бұрын
Any feedback using the 250 ohm with the Motu M6? I would really appreciate it since I have a focusrite 2i2 4th gen (just arrived) and bought a set of 250 ohm (before seeing this video) and now I have doubts... I will receive them today 2/7/2024 so I'm not sure if I should open and try them or just return them and order the 80 ohm. My primary activity will be to play my electric bass connected to the focusrite while listening to both my bass and songs for practice. I do have a license to the FL Studio software so I'll potentially do some recording but nothing professional. Any comments please let me know. Thank you!
@robincooney12639 ай бұрын
Thank you, a really good review that answers the obvious question that most of us have. After watching your review I am now going for the DT770 250 ohm - BUT there is one other good reason - you can get replacement everything, no problem, which I've really struggled with for my existing AKG studio headphones. The earpads split after 12 months and AKG simply don't sell replacements.
@technologiga3 жыл бұрын
Perfect video!!! I was a little confused about what version i should get, now I know what version to buy Thanks!!!
@brodiebrazil3 жыл бұрын
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@krisandersson7156 Жыл бұрын
I have the 80 Ohms and are using them together with a HEGEL SUPER USB DAC. Absolutely love them. Modded them so i have a 4-pin mini XLR on the headphones so i can run them balanced if i want to in the future.
@_-Marcel-_2 жыл бұрын
Best explanation!! So many low detailed videos about that topic on KZbin. Thanks a lot!!
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@Cubasenet33 Жыл бұрын
Listening to your review for the second time with a pair of DT 770 Pro 250 Ohms cans very well driven by a SSL2+. Your input on them decided me for those. Thanks a lot!
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@bealotcoolerifyoudid7217 Жыл бұрын
I got SSL2+ and Im just looking if the 80 or 250. So no problem with driving the volume up whatsoever?? Thanks
@Cubasenet33 Жыл бұрын
@@bealotcoolerifyoudid7217 250 Ohms is the perfect match for SSL2+. Don't worry for the volume, unless you have severe hearing loss.
@bealotcoolerifyoudid7217 Жыл бұрын
@@Cubasenet33 Cheers man
@joaonuno439 Жыл бұрын
Focusrite Clarett + 4pre USB can take 250ohms or its better 80ohms? By the way, its for practicing piano at night. I guess the long wire makes more sense instead of the coiled wire. Maybe for musicians the 80 Ohms makes more sense here? Thanks!
@josiahmichel17344 ай бұрын
i just gotta say you mixed your voice really well.
@a1isonpereira2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved the way you explain this. One of the best videos I've seen. Instantly subbed and liked!
@scottfoltz6992 жыл бұрын
same - instantly subbed for his detail
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@christien62308 ай бұрын
Bought the DT 770 250 ohm for my bass and pc only version they had anyways enjoying it so far
@shompy122 жыл бұрын
Man this is so nice I think this is the first video I saw that actually gets those differences concerning the voice coil types right and goes beyond that "higher impedance=high quality" blabla
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@gregabytes2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I just got the 250s and they came with a 4 port Knox Mic amp. Thanks for the thorough explanation, and MAN do you sound great on my new cans. Thanks!!!
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@Love-One-Another Жыл бұрын
80 Ohm
@zombieking710610 ай бұрын
I use the 32 ohm with my phone and iPad but however I use them with my vintage hifi amp (it’s not powerful enough to drive the 250 ohm) version but I am honestly in love with these headphones I use them for basically everything
@jackspring770910 ай бұрын
Excellent vid. Plenty of relevant detail and all of it straight to the point. Thank you.
@StephieSmith9 ай бұрын
Thank you very very much for explaining in such a grafic and easy way the difference between the three. You definitely helped me figure out which ones to buy! ;)
@mosswareproaudio6328 Жыл бұрын
There is more to the Z matching here Brodie.... There is the maximum transfer of power relationships. There is the maximum voltage transfer relationships. This all comes down to effective maximum linearity. There are issues with mismatches to amp output, but for me the big deal is the linearity. Remember this stuff EEs out there?
@KnightmareUSA Жыл бұрын
From what other reviews (channels) suggest, I always thought the most neutral or flat sound would be best, not overdoing it in any one area. Does the 80 give less distortion at high volume than the other two, or is there no difference, and have you ever had to use 32 ohm in a studio environment
@ildafons2 жыл бұрын
I have two 32 Ohm headphones Philips and Tascam. Philips are bassy and not loud. Tascams are very flat and very loud. However they are both 32 Ohm they are different in loudness dramatically. I'd say bassy headphones could be less loud that flat ones.
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@atommachine2 жыл бұрын
Got 250 running out my Mackie Mixer drives them well sounds great. I use my AKG 721 mk2 for cross ref as they are neutral and show the fine tuning needed.
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@tracyleepitre60793 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent ohm explanation!
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@0ff_13lvck42 жыл бұрын
I bought a 250 ohm model and think I've gravely made an error. I bought another amp, hoping it ends up working out favorably for me.
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
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@dancuk19756 ай бұрын
Brilliant informative video thank you, so much better than the average unboxing video. I bought the 80.
@asilhunkaroglu2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much just ordered now 32 ohm one I appreciate and subscribed man
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@MrScalius Жыл бұрын
Very well explained. It is sad the 32 does not have the velour pads because I was considering those otherwise. I want to plug my headset to a computer source and I don’t want to buy an amp just for that.
@nAricxd2 жыл бұрын
I have dt770 80ohms and I had to replace the original cable and I replaced it with coiled one. Way better IMO.
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@DanDeVitaMusic Жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful video! Thanks so much for this.
@user-zx8de8op9l Жыл бұрын
Ohms is resistance : A dimmer switch works the same way, the brighter the light the less resistance, the dimmer the light more resistance.
@PotatoflakeJake2 жыл бұрын
Higher ohms require more voltage and less current I believe. Not more current. Not sure though.
@KimSenior Жыл бұрын
Impedance to the best of my knowledge is the combination of resistance, capacitance & inductance symbol Z, but your right in saying the higher impedance it’s necessary to have a greater input value. Great review all the same, I think it’s the 80ohm version for me, I’m just starting out recording, so thanks.
@GideonLesson6 ай бұрын
it's amazes me how well put together video couldn't get basic physics right. For impedance twice as large you need twice the Voltage to match same wattage(and same volume output if sensitivity is the same). Most of the headphone amps are voltage sources. They can have negative current feedback or total current limit, but they mostly improve maximum current capacity and multiply output voltage up to the limits of the power supply. And this is how ac powered amp differs from most of portable ones, it can achieve higher output voltage and as result get more out of high impedance cans.
@suddenleaf10 ай бұрын
I just bought the 32ohm ones and i’m so happy to hear that they are (in their own way) better than the 80ohm 😄
@TomGranberg2 жыл бұрын
I find the 80ohm ones to be the best all rounder.
@brodiebrazil2 жыл бұрын
i hate to tell you this but the 80's are my least favorite of them all. (that said... it's NOT that i dislike them)
@spacexmike2 жыл бұрын
did you test all 3 though? with and without amps?
@TomGranberg2 жыл бұрын
@@spacexmike Yes, I did. The ones requiring pre amps to work are great, and I have some of those too. Often using them for just listening to music while traveling/leisure. But in the studio it's just easier with a pair that doesn't require a preamp.
@spacexmike2 жыл бұрын
@@TomGranberg yea I think thats what the 80 ohms was designed for, studio and thats why its a little flatter. So I see why you like it
@DjAlizay2 жыл бұрын
@@TomGranberg and you are not using a pre amp with your 80s, correct?
@chacmool258110 ай бұрын
6:20 Hmmm, no. Impedance refers to the (frequency dependant) resistance to the flow of a current when a voltage is applied.
@KinShuYeung2 жыл бұрын
80 ~ 250 ohm, which one is suitable for Focusrite Scarlett 18i2O? thanks.
@lukeduke9304 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful and informative👍 Thanks!
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
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@nicolasciampone1515 Жыл бұрын
there's something I didn't get, these headphones are meant to be used as studio monitors so a detailed but flatter response is preferable. saying the 32 and 250 ohm models have a V shaped response would actually be the opposite of that, right?
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
I guess I'm saying they have more definition that is accurate of how MOST people will be listening to the source. I'm glad you caught this video & just want to invite you to my NEW channel, "Home Studio Pro": brodie.bz/Production
@elijah-wilson-music Жыл бұрын
Really well done video man, this helped. Thanks!
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
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@scottsmith4145 Жыл бұрын
Glad Beyer put this out. This was a bit confusing to me also.
@GreggK6EGG8 ай бұрын
thanks for the info, I use dt 770s 80 ohm for my ham radio live stream.. Was thinking of upgrading to dt 1990s they are 250ohm
@HHGenuine5 ай бұрын
I've tried all 3 versions of DT 770 Pro, and they all sound similar / indifferent... the differentiating factor is only volume level (assuming the same power of preamp or amp), and nothing else.... Mostly I use the 80 ohm, and it sounds just as wonderful as the other 2 versions....
@michael_caz_nyc2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - I was going to purchase a pair, but it's Too Confusing. I will stick with my Audio-Technica ATH-M50X or Sony MDR 7506 or Sennheiser HD-280 Pro - appreciate the information. Beyerdynamic created Paralysis by Over-analysis. Great job with this. oNe LovE from NYC
@Richard-mz7qu Жыл бұрын
Outstanding! Thank you for such a well thought-out presentation. Any suggestions for an affordable DAC Amp for the 250?
@joaoduarte86996 ай бұрын
Hello! I really loved the video mate! Really helped me choose my headphones. I have a question tho, I plug my headphones on my volt 1 interface, does it have enough power for the 250 ohm? My goal is to get really clean mixes and masters and sometimes record in it! Thanks for the attention 😊
@MisterDavidWeinstein Жыл бұрын
Just bought these for my iphone however I do use a small DAC. I got the 80 ohms. Hope it works out. Waiting for them to arrive.
@redeidson140 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks 🤘 So was thinking of picking up a set of the 32’s just for listening to music thru my phone (iPhone XR). I would also be using a small portable dac/amp. Would you recommend these for that… just purely for music!!! Or should I look elsewhere? TIA!
@MICKSKAI2 жыл бұрын
I use sound blasterx g6 as my dac/amp and it is a perfect match with my dt 990 pro 250 ohms. I really love to try the dt 770 pro 250 ohms also with this dac/amp.
@PboiStrider Жыл бұрын
Thanks this helped me I have the same soundcard wondering if it would be a good match
@MICKSKAI Жыл бұрын
@@PboiStrider I think it would be!
@Cryptosonix2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, you really cleared things up!
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
my pleasure!! hope to bring you more check out my NEW channel, "Home Studio Pro" over at: brodie.bz/Production
@yawnny90983 жыл бұрын
Hey Brodie! Which headphone amp do you use? Any noise out of it at listenable levels? I find with multi out pro audio headphone amps the price can look tempting, but often seem noisy. LOVE these audio production videos!! Keep it up!!
@brodiebrazil3 жыл бұрын
my headphone amp is a "sterling" in home studio... nothing special.but not noisy at all. it doesn't have to boost a ton, just power the 250 ohm headphones, which it does easily. thanks for watching!
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
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@stan30285 ай бұрын
Well I have 250ohm 990 Pro and they work very well when connected to my laptop or phone Xiaomi.. volume only about 70-80% max
@KeyBrute3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, I'm now looking for an amp/dac.
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
thanks for saying that! check out my NEW channel, "Home Studio Pro" over at: brodie.bz/Production
@arniekando68462 жыл бұрын
Everthing you say is opposate of my experience. Just watched a video by expert saying the 250ohm is the flatter version. The 80ohm cable is very rubbery so how is the 32 ohm more rubbery.
@valtsu77852 жыл бұрын
So for digital piano which one of these would you recommend? 😅
@jonnymak10795 ай бұрын
Ok, soo how do you feel about the volt interface powering the openback 990's 250ohm ??? Amp or no? GREAT video also Thanks!!!
@LeLe-bo7cs3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having a title that says "everything you should know" and then explaining everything i need to know. You actually explained more than i need to know. Every word you said has a reason to escape your lips, this isn't one of the 40mins bullshit tutorials that teach nothing. Great vid.
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
haha... this is the best kind of compliment to get! thank you. check out my NEW channel, "Home Studio Pro" over at: brodie.bz/Production
@RoverWaters2 жыл бұрын
thicker and less wire for voice coils translates also into less detail in sound.
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
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@ncsteinb4 ай бұрын
Impedance is NOT current. It's resistance, but since we are working with AC (audio) the resistance changes with frequency. Impedance is resistance with respect to frequency. This impedance characteristic changes with freq. You can see this clearly in an impedance plot for the driver. The higher impedance drivers will need more voltage to drive.
@infectedN810 ай бұрын
Great review ... but damn i cant decide between 80 and 32. I will use them with my laptop, so 80 should not be the problem, but I heard on other review that they really lack bass and sub bass which is deal breaker for me. But do they really lack it ? .... Right now I have ATH M40x and sometimes I feel like I would like them with a bit less bass.
@brodiebrazil10 ай бұрын
i'd do 32 on any laptop
@TheGeekGauntletPodcast Жыл бұрын
I have the Rodecaster Pro 2 and I have DT770 80 ohms. It takes some power to drive because on max volume the volume is really really low.
@zabprod_2 жыл бұрын
This might be the best review I've ever seen! 🔥
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
thank you!! check out my NEW channel, "Home Studio Pro" over at: brodie.bz/Production
@theyootlegacy68632 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO and very informative. I am thinking in getting one of these headeset to use it with PS5 will i need an amp and which one would you recommend?
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
for the ps5: just get 32 ohm check out my NEW channel, "Home Studio Pro" over at: brodie.bz/Production
@theyootlegacy6863 Жыл бұрын
@Brodie Brazil thank you.
@BigEightiesNewWave Жыл бұрын
Just ordered the 80ohm I use a USB DAC Creative play 3 and a Play4. Play 3 has a 64-300ohm setting and the Play 4 will drive up to a 150ohm so not worried. Play 4 is USB-C so I can use any quality wired headset with my smartphone.
@greasybunz41692 жыл бұрын
I’m debating between the 32s and the 80s. I want to get the 80s and maybe get an amp later as I’m not willing to dish out all the money at once. But I’m wanting to know if running the 80s out of my laptop will be satisfactory in the meantime before I buy an amp. Or should I just go with the 32s and forget about it
@pandassudsnshine41252 жыл бұрын
80ohms will work on todays phones and most devices. They base this number off old devices in 70-80s lol. Most koss headphones are 60 ohms and are plenty loud without maxing your phones.
@pandassudsnshine41252 жыл бұрын
I have the 80ohms and at 60 percent volume it’s loud.
@MarcCGN2 жыл бұрын
I have the 80 ohms and I have to turn the volume of my tablet and laptop up to 100% to find it nearly loud enough. If I'd use them mostly on these devices, I'd get the 32 ohms.
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
you won't be dissatisfied with the 32's... but would recommend amp & 80/250 for better drive check out my NEW channel, "Home Studio Pro" over at: brodie.bz/Production
@ATLXNTIS1 Жыл бұрын
I just got the 80 ohm and damn i love them
@metalliholic2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very clear information!
@brodiebrazil2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@n1tr0- Жыл бұрын
Which ones are better for games? 80ohm or 250ohm?
@siniteanrazvan32983 ай бұрын
I can get the 80 ohm for 90$, I would use them in gaming and listening to music, i research into headphone amps but idk yet if i would go for it
@RoncaBaixo Жыл бұрын
So for a audio-interface like PreSonus AudioBox GO, 80-ohm or 250-ohm?
@bayybow2 жыл бұрын
By any chance would anyone know if the Audient EVO 4 Audio Interface is enough to power the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 Ohm? If not please leave any recommendations?
@williamperry4238 Жыл бұрын
The 250 ohm headphones require less current-----HELLO! Vacuum tube ampllifers are very popular.. Build the "Staving Student" headphone amp (use 5J6 tubes)..
@MATTxMAD Жыл бұрын
So I actually got the presonus revelator io24 and looking to get these too haha. Great video on these but little nervous on which ones to get. Which one would you suggest? From what you were saying I was think 250 ohm
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
awesome choice on the revelator! I use the 32 ohm version and extremely satisfied with that on the presonus... wouldn't even use the 80. check out my new channel, "home studio pro" brodie.bz/Production
@nemorug2 жыл бұрын
Best video, best explenation on youtube! Thanks m8 !
@anetavolcano54962 жыл бұрын
great! It would be useful to know what amp to buy. I bought 250ohm but my interface doesn't drive it so wondering if I should buy an amp or go for 32 or 80 for music recording mainly and listening to tracks, mixing. Will focusrite 2i2 be enough for 80s? but then I'm worried the sound quality will not be as good as advocated 250. hmm. Any ideas? thanks.
@ioguapin2 жыл бұрын
Go for 32 hom version. Not worth going for an amp, 32 are very similar to 250 hom. Or did you already take a decision?
@anetavolcano54962 жыл бұрын
@@ioguapin hi! Actually, I did go for 32 ohm 😁 and Audio Technica 40x for comparison but don't think I'll be keeping either pair. Will think about that. BD are too bassy for me and the vocal spreads quite a bit. I prefer if it stays close so I can hear it properly. And AT's sound is quite similar to my old headphones which broke, but AT are very uncomfortable - very tight on my jaw so working in them for long would be quite impossible. Also, the breaths on AT were much more audible and deeper when listening to a separate vocal stem in Logic. I think I'll be going back to my old headphones - they're not perfect but I feel they suit my needs better (editing vocals, listening to mixes, recording). The only shame is that they will probably break again in a couple of years because of the design. But I'm a bit disappointed with BD 32. I really wanted to like them but the bass is too much, couldn't focus on anything else. Also the high vocal sounds a bit tiny.
@ioguapin2 жыл бұрын
@@anetavolcano5496 Glad to know your mind is set. And thanks for the comparison, I myself have some Athm50x, and looking to try the BD 770 pro 250 ohm. But in my case I'm just a listener, mostly EDM, I also have some open back headphones to listen to Rock and Jazz.
@RonenHalsadiGuitar4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Which ohm I need if plan to connect headphone to guitar amp headphone output?
@davidwright23792 жыл бұрын
Hi Brodie, great video, got the 32 ohm version, fantastic, do you do a tutorial on how to change ear pads to the velour type, cheers
@brodiebrazil Жыл бұрын
I don't have that one yet, but it's a GREAT idea! I'll do it on my new channel.. check out my NEW channel, "Home Studio Pro" over at: brodie.bz/Production
@djsoulfilter Жыл бұрын
The 80 ohms are the perfect balance and sweet spot for me.
@TOXICBERRY10 ай бұрын
Can the 250 Ohm Version work with my M-Audio MTrack Solo Audio Interface??