Broken By Concept - Episode 112 - What Improving at the Game DOESN'T Look Like

[@slaintwice]

The transition from no glasses Curtis to glasses Curtis within the first 6 seconds was interesting.

[@OGRandyLooney]

Don’t reveal his secret identity

[@HappyChap155]

I would completely agree with the breakdown of what Phreak could learn from this. However, I do think we should also give him props for his positivity. I've never watched Phreak's stream or content, but in this game he was still setting a much higher standard as a role model compared to 99% of our content creators haha. Whenever he dies he isn't saying anything like "oh gg, so and so is trash, we just go next, get me out." And you can see he is trying to recognize and be honest about his mistakes in a way, as well as think forward as to how he can win the game, what is going well even though he is losing, etc.. Because you guys broke it down, I think we can see where his interpretation of the game was misguided, but I do want to give props for him appearing to be a postive role model and still thinking about how he can win the game even when he is losing. Like all of us, it seems he has a lot to learn in order to translate his knowledge of the game into his gameplay, but if more of the role models in this game behaved like this, our community would be incredibly less toxic.

[@zizeeo]

Tbh, he was being a dick. Blaming his team because he can't position.

[@Stoff_Rocks_Packs]

Positivity? More like Toxic Positivity. Backseating his Jungler when he's feeding his ass off lmao. Also if he behaved any worse he would probably get fired/fined.

[@BrokenByConcept]

Remember guys, Pain + Reflection = Progress (Episode 93). Do you think the game that Phreak played and won was a painful experience for him to learn from? When you win a game but play badly is it painful? Or do you love getting the dopamine from the LP?

[@lefroste6370]

i will be grateful that i managed to somehow win or get carried,but i definitel prefer if i am the main character of the game and crush enemy so hard that they have to admit that im good

[@danielstaufer]

if I were to describe when I feel the most confused in my soloQ journey I would say it's when I am losing games I "should" win and winning games I "should" lose. both feel terrible because I know something severe is wrong with my decision making. but I can see how that feeling can be shrugged off by thinking about the LP gains - it's comes down to whether the person thinks short-term or long term in my eyes.

[@LuxiBelle]

It feels terrible like I cheated to earn a win. I know I won't be as lucky in the future so I have to play better next game or I'm going to end up losing.

[@fortcolors9887]

to me, it's painful. I care more about my gameplay than the lp number on my profile.

[@fayecarroll4673]

I get most tilted in the games I win but do poorly.

[@Obzerver]

"twitch ult should be down I think" 5 seconds later: Surprised Pikachu Face 2 seconds later: "NO! YOU MISSED!"

[@PacesetterREAL]

Babe wake up, new BBC dropped

[@wergqeferhqw3erf452]

at 23 min when there was 10 seconds of silence and he said "I actually thought Id win" I was on the floor laughing

[@JamesBaleLA]

This is S+ Tier content.

[@Kyle-mt5wr]

I feel like the real takeaway from this episode wasn't that freak was delusional or had some invisible narrative, he genuinely seemed like he owned most of his mistakes, and wanted his team to play good too. It is almost impossible to be introspective in game, im sure if he watched his replay he would agree with all of your points. I feel the real takeaway was that applying your knowledge in game is much harder to do than we realize, it seemed like he disrespected his own thought process (maybe thinking he would outplay or whatever) and let himself get into positions he knew he shouldn't have been in leading to bad deaths. Micro mis-plays from himself or his team are frustrating in the moment and likely why he commented so much on them.

[@HanyuuHOLO]

40:46 Wtf? It gets worse and worse as the vod goes on omg. He's completely delusional... at this point I just think he's trying extremely hard to avoid letting his viewers realize that he makes mistakes, full ego protection mode

[@yretsym5921]

The video is repertoriated as a DOTA 2 vid, do you know why?

[@Katsuatis]

Thanks for answering my question guys, very insightful

[@AlluckyTV]

They talk about og’s and being one myself from s4 I had a very painful start to my ranked journey. I basically placed silver and was hardstuck and then I swapped to adc and my mechanics were ok enough to propel me to high plat in my second season. After that my ego inflated like crazy because I was a vayne main and some of my micro mechanics clips were being posted in montage videos so I thought I was way better than I was and I refused to learn macro. I switched to jungle a few years back and after a long time I finally hit diamond after dropping my ego as much as possible. And now I’m trying to climb back to diamond after a break and I have to literally relearn to drop my ego again xd

[@500hitcombo]

Coming back to watch this in 2024. That producer sounds.... is that Charles? 😊 23:54

[@sandy3938]

Ah yes, the *BBC World of Warcraft Podcast*

[@jaywu4804]

man i always have thought that the label was picked by the uploader and not assigned by youtube itself. it is funny seeing WoW under a BBC video lol

[@HanyuuHOLO]

@@jaywu4804 It's picked by the uploader. If by any reason it said WoW there it was probably an accident, lol.

[@fortcolors9887]

@@HanyuuHOLO does this mean they type "of" into the searchbar ... ?

[@WizardTideTime908]

13:22 “We don’t know what he knows, you know?” I do be knowing.

[@sz475]

Holding onto the past level of play has definitely happened during my climb back up, and I wasn't super aware of this until watching your response to my email. From silver 3 50lp at the time of writing in, I am now in promos for gold!

[@fortcolors9887]

I really liked this episode. Breaking down how the narratives weren't aligned with what was happening in the gameplay was really interesting to me. On a different note, I think you should explore the idea of minimizing as a learning objective after the end-of-review more, because that's something I really struggled with. The concept of having something specific and relevant to learn after an "end-of-review" mistake is something I don't think gets touched upon enough, and the fact that being carried is a stigma shows the complete lack of respect for that skill in the LoL community.

[@kristofkovacsRisy]

Enjoyed listening to you guys, I can't wait to graduate from college (tomorrow) and play League again. :D I wonder how long Plat 1 will take after these years... There's so much we can learn and improve on, for some reason I really enjoy this in League. I may still regret not taking it more seriously back in Season 2, but it's whatever now.

[@LeagueBeer]

League is good brain trainer, just like studying college can be, but in both cases, you need to have the right mindset 💪

[@Kittensinabox]

Nathan handled the intro to this SOOO much more delicately, learning lessons from the Kyose Kontroversy. Not that I disagreed with the Kyose ep, but Nathan's approach here is more aligned with the BBC tone.

[@Manifibell]

Just got a win on Poppy top with a 4/9 score. I should be happy, but I did such a bad job that game I actually don't think I deserved that win. Complete opposite of what Phreak does at 43:49 - 44:05 from Nathan point.

[@tobysource]

I went through this "why" process in a vod review recently, and was able to pinpoint one early ward I placed that didn't *quite* make it into the brush, that ended up creating a snowball effect and losing the game.

[@elrubent]

Years ago I was Diamond 1 in my server (LAN). Would have loved to watch these, those reviews probably could made me reach Master. Rn i'm platinum 2. loving the process

[@HanyuuHOLO]

If you let go of your past rank, focus on improving rather than on "getting back", and truly embrace the process, the results might surprise you and you might even surpass your previous peak. All the info is already scattered around the (currently) 112 BBC episodes.

[@claasmachens3858]

I don't get the opposition to formulating a plan. It wasn't "you have to", or "you should", it was "I think we can, if you want to". If formulating any suggestion is a break of ettiquete, why have pings at all. Also atempting to identify abilities or focus of the oponent doesn't seem that useless. Knowing your oponent is playing their secondary role, or that they have a rather high kill threat on you seems like usefull information.

[@bensmith2743]

The Twitch 1v1 he lost because he threw boomerang (Q) early and it was still on cd for the fight. I think he had to use shield (which looks like it expired) to prevent the expunge from killing him early. twitch correctly didn't pull the trigger on expunge as that would've been a +~150 hp for sivir.

[@ragegaze3482]

I think this was before spellshield gave health, it was just a mana thing at this point probably. Not sure when that patch came out, either way he wasn't winning the fight, he might survive but he's still lost

[@vansserafim]

Insanely interesting and amusing

[@Stoff_Rocks_Packs]

Lmao this is comedy gold. Shit like this 19:00 is why i swapped from jungle to toplane if you know everything better why don't you play jungle? Right.

[@Kittensinabox]

Curtis looks like he could snap me into more pieces than my parent's hopes for my future

[@ZechsX18999]

Where are the timestamps?

[@jaimieann3554]

Still here following from afar! 👀 🐅

[@TheTimtam112]

Do we know if Phreak watched/reacted to this? Curious to know how he reacted

[@mariannerousseau693]

I really like the way you point out narrative. However, its pretty difficult to keep track on the action that is happening in the video of freak while listening by audio only. I feel that you need to watch it on youtube. So maybe a review a bit too long for a pidcast :p something to keep in mind. On a positive note you guys do good work keep up the progress :)

[@ragegaze3482]

The producer said he could win at 24:18, just curious how if anyone knows? When I watch that I see no way of winning, he Auto cancelled the W, and had no Q up the entire time so that wasn't a factor. It seems like spellshielding the exsponge isn't even a factor because the twitch didn't exsponge, he just autoed sivir to death unless I'm seeing something incorrectly? Idk see where the outplay potential was. kiting wouldn't of solved anything either since twitch didn't have to land anything and had greater range. (edit: if twitch had exhaust and was holding it, it was even more lost.) unless he spellshielding that, if you can even spellshield that idk

[@ortonlol6889]

His issue was wasting the q for nothing prior to the fight beginning. If he holds on to q for the fight he wins..

[@ryanbullard1887]

Curtis: I'm losing pressure in mid? Why? Because you're getting chunked or something . . . ? Why? Because um . . . I need to walk up to last hit. Why? Silver player: I'm losing pressure mid. Why? Because I died mid. Why? Because my jungler wasn't in time to counter gank. Why? Because he 4 camped and fail ganked top lane, losing pressure on the map. Why? Because he has a 37% win rate. Why? Because I'm in loser's queue. Solution: uninstall.

[@pressf4896]

Buck Broken by Concept

[@TAGGdinc]

Yeah having a bunch of game knowledge and inability to actually make the right decisions in game and the correct fundamentals and strategy to get the job done like coaches running around releasing content acting like they are both the best players that have ever played yet never show themselves playing cuz they are the pot calling the kettle black able to over analyzing old gameplay using hindsight and knowing what ultimately is the outcome of the game in question

[@daffyuser]

Am I missing something or is this the guy riot hired...as a designer...for league...lol

[@santana9434]

phreak the freakkkk

[@lolMidroid]

This is so painful to watch, these casters talking and playing. They pretend they know what they're talking about, when in reality, they are basically clueless. Majority of them peaks at plat and then it looks like this... And these casters are the reason why i can't even watch Worlds. It's because there are constantly talking these clueless jokers, but they just have no idea what they're talking about, It's so painful to listen to! I can't even enjoy Worlds because of them.

[@lolMidroid]

Also the play at 23:05 he should have go mid and take t1 mid, instead of going bot, that is already lost. Twitch needed to reset after that aswell, so they had plenty of time to take t1 mid, which would be favourable trade for them.

[@skyleite2065]

The job of a caster isn't to correctly analyze the game in the heat of the moment, it's literally just to provide entertainment for the viewers who aren't knowledgeable enough about the game to find the fun themselves. When you watch a soccer match on TV, do you actually take the shit the casters say seriously as if they have the slightest knowledge of what it's like to plan and execute a soccer match at a world level? What about when you watch the olympics? Of course you don't, so why would you expect that from League of Legends casters? It makes no sense.

[@micuzo]

This video feels like an ego trip ngl. After a certain point the point has been made so what is the point of continuing to look at all of his mistakes other than to make fun of him. Like 41:46 wtf

[@JonathanSaxon]

Bad take.

[@skad00sh8]

Not first

[@skad00sh8]

Oh damn

[@dision9470]

Hi Mr Not first

[@JamesBaleLA]

This is the guy who is destroying the game btw and gets to oversee all of the balance changes...

[@TAGGdinc]

Why do y’all always talk about one big mistake witnessed during a post game review being worthy of immediately ending the review and how the hell is that a way to improve by not even looking at the rest of the game to see what you did wrong. Idontget how you improve by just ending a review it dumbo as hell

[@letsgofrugs]

this constant positivity shit isint realistic and im tired of curtis and the bbc acting like frustration and calling out mistakes is always wrong

[@graham4385]

because that’s not the mentality to improve. focus on your own mistakes and what YOU can be improving on. you are the only constant in life and it’s a personal journey. calling out other’s mistakes will only bring you down

[@nam-dm1ut]

it is realistic, and frustration is okay, but calling out mistakes from your teammates in a rude way is rarely gonna make you win and it benefits no one. This kind of approach goes in anywhere in life, you always gotta focus on what you can do because that's the only thing you can realistically change