Broken DoAll Drill press repairs. Mystery of the Missing parts 1

[@nathanalexander9127]

This press has worked like a charm for my projects kzbin.infoUgkxajoEbapTfqWaadnqb04h6U576yxXp-FE . I didn't even secure it to my table top, mainly due to the fact that I was using a 15 lbs drill vise. It's not flimsy at all as to what others have claimed it to be. Make sure the locking nuts and levers are secured and there won't be any issues with light pressure and patience. I was able to drill through aluminum, plastic, and steel (steel took a while) with no problems at all. Yeah it took a little longer than a regular drill press, but I don't have the space OR the money for one.The instruction manual was worthless, but luckily assembling the press was intuitive. However, the manual would be good for ordering replacement parts if needed. There is a nice breakdown of the parts that are included in the kit. Before ordering, make sure it is compatible with your unit, it is clearly stated what models the press is compatible with.This was an excellent purchase for $40!!

[@johanmannikko6029]

You need part number 1903, its a 22tooth gear. The parts breakdown manual is available for download at HH Roberts machinery.

[@prototype3a]

Which model is Steve's drill press?

[@williamthrasher8540]

@@prototype3a s32

[@OmeMachining]

Yet a great video Steve 👍 The Strands/Arboga drill presses are super common here in Scandinavia. Your model is a S32M and the smaller one is a S68. Great machines.. You should be able to get manual for your machines. It you need help with parts i can try to help though a Danish dealer. They still make machines in this brand, same as Arboga, Solberga and others. (Almost identical machines) Some parts are not made as good as they used to be. If you ever want to repaint it. They were painted in Light blue Hammerrite paint, with 'hammered effect' Best regards Denmark.

[@TheFlarMr]

Indeed, according to the manual, the gear reference seems to be 2HS1961

[@SteveSummers]

Thanks for watching. I agree they are extremely well made. They are a bit hard to find around here. I like the original colour. My smaller one hasn't been repainted and looks pretty good. I'd much rather have original paint. Thanks for the offer on searching for parts👍. Chances are Ill end up having to making it.

[@the_hate_inside1085]

Nowadays the company making Strands are called MSC Machinery Scandinavia, according to the website they are manufactured in Rosenfors in Småland, so you seem to be mistaken in your claim that they are Asian made.

[@ke9tv]

Aww, and here I was looking forward to Steve setting up for gear cutting on that big horizontal mill of his. :)

[@OmeMachining]

@@the_hate_inside1085 you are right. They are made in Rosenfors. - like Strands used to be made. Now they are under Machinery Scandinavia (one roof) Strands, Arboga, Solberga, IMA & their new line Rosenfors. All similar machines. I've edited my text as it were misleading. 😊👍 (Didn't know they were 'back' and all being made in Rosenfors, but did talk with my tool supplier today about it) Those models are also made as copies with allot of other labels/names, from Asia. I've owned one myself, and it were poorly made and far from the good old ~Strands.

[@Cliff_Anderson]

18:22 "That's uhhh...pretty intricate!" In my neck of the woods, that translates to "hog staring at a wristwatch" :)

[@marcellemay7721]

Missed you last week. Saturday morning felt weird without a Steve Summers video to watch with my coffee. One of the reasons I keep coming back to watch your videos is because of the variety of content that you put out, it never gets stale. You're not afraid to tackle any job and that, to me, is the sign of a real blessed mechanic. Make the content that makes you happy, and your followers will love you for who you are. You and your family are such real down to earth people and remind me of the prior generations that did whatever they have to, to build their humble abode into something they could be proud of. It's not built on credit cards, but resourcefulness and perseverance. I love it.

[@SteveSummers]

Last week was too busy for me to be able to film and edit together anything I would have been satisfied with. I just decided to not post👍. Thanks for watching

[@bobtherat99]

"It's never just a song or just a dance. It is always a song AND a dance."

[@bcbloc02]

I have not broken any of my bondhous ball Allen’s yet and I have cranked on several of them pretty good.

[@SteveSummers]

That 2mm wrench was asking for it. They really should put ball ends on them that small. My bondhous set doesn't have ball ends on the really small ones. That is a harborfreight set I have been using for a year or so. I like them because of the leverage 😁👍

[@excavateboy]

I've been torn lately with your content. I love the machine content. And I'm not really that interested in cars. But seeing you work through the truck project has kept me engaged...I want it all. You've ruined my simple one track mind😁

[@jamesmorris3175]

I have an older Abene mill and can confirm the Swedes love their extremely intricate engineering. Elegant, slick as weasel snot engineered machines but every time I open a cover it can be a bit overwhelming!

[@lloydprunier4415]

When you pulled off the first side plate and saw the "intricate gears", my first comment was "WOW"!!

[@mdvener]

You were missed last week, but good to see you back. At 10:18 you usea a word that reminded me of AvE. That's exactly how he pronounces garbage. Made me chuckle. Glad to see all is good on your end. Thanks as always for sharing.

[@jjbode1]

Thank you for the heads up on the shirts. Hope you get it sorted.

[@scottkinkead6324]

Had two of these in our shop constantly breaking down finally got rid of them .

[@jrb_sland5066]

Hi Steve - you're a braver man than I am. I design & build electronic geophysical instruments, and almost always use a professional card shop to make my blank circuit boards - two or four copper layers, platted-thru holes, silk-screened part IDs & location outlines, i.e. "the works". But I have occasionally made quick prototype {one-off} single-side circuit boards in my basement workshop over a single evening. Drilling small holes is difficult for me because I don't have a good drill press, but I get along fairly well with some cobbled-together drawer slides on/in hardwood rails running vertically to support one of my Dremel-clone high-speed rotary tools/drills. But a # 68 carbide bit is the smallest I've ever used, and they break insanely easily piercing through copper-clad fibreglass 1/16" card stock. To see you use a # 76 bit through mild steel was an eye-opener for me. Many thanks for the demo, and best of luck finding the missing phenolic gear.

[@ohhpaul7364]

Nice tp see you, Steve. The weekends just don't feel right without your Saturday morning videos.

[@mfletch392]

Good informative video I love your videos many thanks from the UK

[@bkoholliston]

Nice video! I was screaming at the screen to put a block of wood in to support the quill before it dropped when you pulled the whole pinion out.

[@tsmartin]

12:46 Teachable moment which I learned the hard way too. Never use the ball end of an allen wrench to tighten or loosen a screw.

[@paulsullivan6392]

Also the manner he used the magnet to retrieve the broken end was slick. Something I never would have thought of. Well done.

[@stephensimpson5283]

OOH OOH REBUILD!!! Yipee!!!!!

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Sweet! Thanks for sharing!

[@randythomas8589]

nice! thank you for the video Steve

[@oldschool1993]

Environmentalists- "Paint stripper chemicals are toxic and harmful to the environment, we need to reduce the concentration by 50%" Consumer- "I need some paint stripper- buy 2 cans because that environmentally friendly stuff is too weak"

[@sblack48]

I love taking apart dirty rusty gnarly stuff, cleaning it up and putting it back together so that it works as it should. Very satisfying. Even better if you get the machine for a song because the previous owner didn’t take the time to fix it.

[@220years7]

Thanks!

[@bruceanderson9461]

I bought used this type of drill press and I called the dealer that sells new ones and he told me that it would outlive me as long as I never shifted the speeds with the motor running. If you do that you will strip out the phenolic gears. On my particular drill they are no longer made so you would be in the gear making business. So you are warned😉. I love the drill press and it also has auto feed but an earlier design.

[@stumccabe]

Awesome drill press. I'd like to see you making the missing gear - much more interesting than just finding a replacement!

[@chrisbay8770]

Steve, try HH Roberts Machinery out of Toronto, they stock parts for pretty much anything. I have an Arboga E830 and it has alot of similarities. Good luck with it, they are a great machine. Cheers

[@michaelcothran4064]

Yes Steve, double set screws, worked with an English tooling lathe and had to repair a shifting finger in its feed gearbox, every thing I took apart had a taper set screw with a normal set screw on top, first time I had run into this, LOVE your vids, God Bless You!!!

[@warrenjones744]

I did not read all the comments someone may have already said something about this below. Anyway Kleen & Strip does make a paint stripper that is super powerful. The hardware store cans are not worth buying anymore. My local NAPA sells Aircraft Paint Stripper made by Kleen & Strip. It is bionic. It waters the eyes and burns skin. Like the old stuff from the hardware used to. And does a really good job of getting paint to loosen. Good luck with the drill press gear. Cheers

[@RPMoore55]

Another great video!. That drill press is an awesome piece of machinery. Those Swedes definitely build some fine tools.

[@farmalltomf]

Nice vid Steve. I was talking to the PC screen at 13:10 "Use a magnet", then you did! LOL, nice job!

[@joshonthetube]

HH Roberts may be able to help- there is a parts breakdown for what appears to be the right model here: www.hhrobertsmachinery.com/Support/Manual-machine-Parts-Lists/Strands/Strands-S32M-parts-manual.pdf If i'm reading it correctly, i think the part number you need is 1903, the description translates as "fiber gear 22 teeth".

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

When that 2mm allen broke, I cringed! Great job getting the ball out!

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

I ran one of those for about 4 years. The power down feed is definitely the weakest link . Ours would go out around twice per year running , 20 -24 hours per day, 6 & 7 days per week. Our maintenance department always told us, "we don't know how much longer we're going to be able to get parts for this";but somehow they always did. I think they were buying them used.

[@johnlennon335]

Great video as usual. Very informative, and you never get mad and throw your tools! I really hope someone can find that factory part for you. I always look forward to your next video. Had to wait a bit this time.

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Editing has it's value! 😉

[@roscocsa]

hope is free, and worth every penny most times. Does make you feel nice when it works out tho.

[@mdouglaswray]

Great to see all the shop machines getting love! Old DoAll drill presses are so nice!

[@Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P]

good to see you back

[@outsidescrewball]

Enjoyed…good exploring surgery Dr Summers…best of luck on the cure

[@Uncleroger1225]

Happy Saturday Mornin Steve, Elizabeth, Bobby, and Grits! Great experience even though not complete. "Ya don't always get lucky" Looking forward to the solution, thanks for the time it takes to share! God Bless!

[@thomasmitchell6921]

Great Work Steve. Somehow I think a gear solution will emerge. Machine content always educational but that truck just sitting back there was a teaser. Been really enjoying the square body project.

[@davidhofman4341]

My 1948 Reid Surface Grinder was used once or twice before the Y axis was engaged after the travel stop. It had a poor repair that did not last. With the Y yoke broken manual Y did not work. The Reid at some time was converted from 2 phase to 3 phase and painted often by the City to look good. I bought it from someone that bought it at city action. I fixed the yoke, installed 2 VFD's, stripped, painted, and polished the brass. Its a new old grinder. My 1960's Beaver 54" BVRP MILL was decommissioned after someone pulled out the back gear rack pinion and hammered it back in. No parts are available. After much searching I found a rack spindle that looked close. I downloaded the STL file for the spindle and had a friend 3D print it. The printed fit with a little work so I ordered the steel one . After a total rebuild with 2 VFD's I have a beautiful 4 dro nt40 mill that was designed to be a climb mill.

[@chrisfortenberry1983]

Your not the only one having problems with teespring I have heard other channels having the same problems you have, lack of quality control

[@Blazer02LS]

Might want to look at bucket traps to keep micky in check.

[@silverbullet7434]

Super video and press is too. I have a big 20" delta with power feed. Never got to restore it to useable condition. Now trying to sell for my cost , nobody wants them now I guess. Its very nice with the front three spinner handle to drill . I look forward to watching your videos weekly.

[@georgedennison3338]

Better machine tools from that era commonly use dbl set screws. Boy, if you miss them, it can ruin your day. I recently ran across an ER32 collet chuck w- a JT33 taper shaft for 35.00 on eBay. I slapped it on my drill press & went from a 0.002" run out to less than 0.0005". Plus I now have 3/4" capacity on the thing. I love it; best DP update since dropping the speed. Check out one of those collet chucks, you'll be glad you did. GeoD

[@infoanorexic]

That is one thing I love about an old camelback drill press, you can see everything that is going on and access most of it pretty easy. Most inconvenient thing is that I hear a scream off to the northwest every time I switch it on. I think Prudence is watching ...

[@TomokosEnterprize]

There you are. I missed seeing you last week. Nice to have you back. The small parts we find in my shop go into a dedicated drawer in one of my top boxes. I started 40+ years ago collecting this and that. It has been pretty much full for 30 years and although I am searching for that wonder piece within the drawer never seems to go up or down as far as the level. That little drawer has saved many a job on a weekend when all the stores are closed. How aggravating to have a product fail like that. A shirt you can't wash is totally unacceptable. Hopefully someone here can get you what you need. Be it an OE gear or the needed measurements to allow you to make that piece. I think you have a good chance of both. You have a lot of good friends out there eh. Take care and I hope to see you next week.

[@phillipjones3342]

Fantastic analysis I hope someone hooked you up to get that fixed thanks for sharing

[@mkegadgets4380]

Very interesting to see all the gears in the head of the drill press. Really looks high-quality. I wonder if 3-D printing a gear might work, if you can’t find one.

[@elsdp-4560]

Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.👍👀

[@robertburns2415]

Good morning Steve great content. An update on the do-all Mill would be great. Prayers and blessings to you and your family

[@joandar1]

It seems to me that the gear broke for a few reasons. It was badly worn comes to mind. The clutch did not save what it was meant to. The missing gear also did not evaporate as you mentioned, it was removed in bits. The gear was not replaced for at least two reasons. It could not be supplied in a short time frame or was not available. The Boss said screw it, just put it back together and use it as a manual down feed. How did I go? John, Australia.

[@MaturePatriot]

At least you found the cause to be something solvable. Those are two great drill presses. If I can replace mine, I may look for a DoAll, will just have to save up a little longer than before. Lost my Craftsman and Delta in the fire. Glad to be getting over getting over the COVID. Great video!!

[@SteveSummers]

I'm very sorry to hear about the fire Vernon. I can't imagine how tough that must be.

[@Nf6xNet]

Oooh! Congratulations on getting the laser engraver. We have those at work, and they are really neat.

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

good video steve

[@richball9576]

Missed seeing you last Saturday. Hope all is well with y'all. Those are really nice drill presses! Keep up the good work my friend!

[@timthetoolman223]

I absolutely love your troubleshooting videos like this one Steve. Keep up the great work.

[@Paulster2]

Haha ... I love as your camera angle changes we see bits and pieces of the new engine ... looks like you're gunna have fun with that thing :o)

[@johanmannikko6029]

Hey , Steve I fixed one like that awhile back its the same drill thats sold as Strands S32M in europe

[@jeffdavis291]

FWIW: i had the same set set of HF hex wrenches. I returned mine because they were undersized and would bind up in the fasteners. i replaced them with a Bondhus set. Bondhus doesn't put ball ends on the smaller wrenches because they become too fragile.

[@PSUK]

Morning Steve! Been stormy here in Dorset.

[@theClosetgrower420]

Talk to Gina at the Shirt Gallery, she is in kentucky and does a great job on t shirts and merch.

[@mauricelevy9027]

A really interesting video ,I'm amazed at just how much technology has gone in to what We might regard as a humble drill press. Thanks for taking the time to show Us Steve .

[@garybrenner6236]

Good video, HORRIBLE audio!

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

@@garybrenner6236 I heard things okay.

[@paulelias1398]

hi steve had similar problems ,no parts to be found anywhere ,put your brain into gear and make them ,I did ,so can you . will make a great video .can"t wait to see it all the best from AUSTRALIA .

[@keaphotoscom]

Try Matt From demoranch, they have Bunker branding.

[@richardangevine3768]

That’s an awesome drill press. I heard that snap of your ball end allen. I even went, “oh snap”. Lol. You have an awesome shop Steve. And making that gear that your drill press needs would make a great video. Just saying. Have a great week. ✌️

[@gutsngorrrr]

Your DoAll drill presses look very similar to my IMA IG 30-8. I picked mine up for just £200 because the owner couldn't find where to get a replacement quill return spring. It was an absolute steal.

[@kimber1958]

THANKS STEVE , I MISSED YOU LAST WEEK ,GOOD LUCK WITH THE GEAR. I HAVE A FEELING SOMEONE WILL CONE THROUGH FOR YOU,

[@matthewlee8917]

For me it's the band saw. Do a lot of CNC prototype parts. I bought a Precision Matthews saw that has a gearbox. It's the same casting as similar ones but the gearbox is such a nice addition. If anyone is in the market I can't recommend PM enough.

[@jpsimon206]

There is a channel called Small Town machine shop. He has the exact same unit although it is badged as Solingen. He just recently picked it up from a scrap yard, almost all of his stuff is a basket case. Pretty sure you could talk him out of the part, He seems to mostly just enjoy trying to save them

[@georgedennison3338]

Broken ball... LOL. I just about wrote a comment warning you about the effing balls breaking off those cheap allens! Buy some that are metal all the way to the tee. They spin better, and you eliminate the handle flex. GeoD

[@percyangilley3291]

Hi Steve, Something you should do with ALL printed stock is place a t-towel or cloth over the top on the print and iron it hot. All transfers or screen printing require heat the ensure that the print/ink is in-peregrinated fully. Sometimes in the factory process the heat might not be correct and hence it will fail.

[@amundsen575]

in 2019 EPA banned methylene chloride in all paint removers for consumer use. Paint stripper with methylene chloride is available for industrial use but it available in 5 gallon quantities for about $240.00

[@georgestone1282]

Good to see you in the shop. Have a great day!

[@squatchhammer7215]

Also, I had that ball end snap in a screw in a carbide holder. I didn't have magnets but I did have a pick and it worked.

[@mauricekeithjohnson2598]

Interesting investigation !- very thorough job. Rebuilding my (much smaller) 1946 built, Boice Crane 1600 now. Fabbing intermediate 5 step mounted in centre column using Alternator cast iron pulleys for shaft mount. Will greatly increase my speed range.

[@jstefanko100]

Steve, I would love to see a collaboration if you have to make a gear!. 3d Print and then cast one with other makers here on the KZbin community!

[@cennsa140driver]

Yup, did the same thing with my HF T wrenches, even pulled out the bit with a magnet too. Then I went and bought a good set.

[@davidhearne2990]

leaving parts in white vinegar overnight will strip paint very well. makes brass purple but polishes up back to normal without any problems.

[@Vintageguy73]

I would start the search with a Boston Gear catalog, see if there is a already cut bronze "blank".

[@EverettWilson]

I helped out at an educational place with a Boice Crane drill press that was incredibly similar -- might've been just a slightly different year. We (gently) pulled the power feed off because we had a constant stream of people new to machine tools. Unfortunately, when it came time to put an 1.5" hole in a large piece of steel, it was a bit more work than we expected.. The quill return was also busted, so someone rigged a bucket of sand and a pulley in its place. Ugly, but hilarious (and well calibrated!), so the actual return spring was never fixed.

[@CraftedChannel]

I like the big art on the back like your doing. Should be higher on the back. I know a guy in the sports uniform printing business. If they run the curing oven too fast, the ink is not cured. Result is it comes off in the wash. Normally Teespring has a pretty good reputation.

[@WilliamTMusil]

Hiya Steve. Future reference. you can make a very effective DIY stripper. especially for small parts. Sodium hydroxide in hot water. You can get sodium hydroxide at the box store as drain cleaner (draino clone) and you can also get it in stores where they sell soap making supplies. I have found it at walmart. Not at all safe for people or animals, so PPE is necessary, but a small steel container or pot on a hot plate that you drop the parts into will do the trick. This will not hurt steel or cast iron. You do need to be careful with non-ferrous metals like Aluminum or Brass. Just keep it off your skin and avoid heating to the point of steam as the steam will hurt your eyes, nose, lungs etc. Not boiling hot, just hot, or warm even. It can cause serious burns and turn flesh into soap, but is very effective at removing paint. The same solution was classically used in hot tanks. I have also used it as an electrolyte for rust electrolysis. More dangerous than washing soda, Calcium Carbonate, much more alkaline. Kills two birds with one stone, de-rust and removes paint in the same step.

[@Henning_S.]

It also removes old oil and grease, even if it is already hard like resin, perfect for cleaning very old fuel tanks from 2 stroke motorcycles with a thick layer of hardened 2stroke oil on the bottom. If you use acid for rust removal, you can dip the parts in sodium hydroxide solution to neutralize the acid, and it also forms a invisible protective layer on the steel, so it doesn't start rusting immediately...

[@NuffMan_]

It would make sense that a teacher would remove to gear so that students wont do stupid stuff with max speed auto feeds etc.. Whenever i remove original parts, i try to keep them with the machine so that they wont get lost. Try to look if there are any nooks and cranny's where the gear could be hid. Maybe inside the stand ?

[@masongillespie4360]

I’ve got the exact drill press in jet badging tore apart as we speak I’m sure I could measure that gear up if nobody else has yet.

[@jimliechty2983]

I am thinking that if you identify the gear pitch there should be a standard formula to come up with the shaft center to center distance and the pitch diameter and tooth count for the spur you are needing... There is likely some info in Machinist Handbook to do so.

[@prodoverjeff2876]

One of the best cleaners I ever found was used machine oil. Keep a few gallons in a bucket, soak dirty parts over night, the oil "rewets" the oil that evaporated away leaving dirt, gunk and rust behind. Then to remove what is left behind, carbureator cleaner with a toothbrush size wire brush. A final rinse in spirits and the job would be done.

[@willemvantsant5105]

We had 2 similar size drill presses British made with automatic downfeed chain driven from mainshaft but unfortunately no overload clutch. Operator was drilling large hole with blunt drill with auto feed engaged, the resultant force broke the dove tailed casting and the gearbox was left hanging on the electrical cable preventing it from falling on him. After repair auto feed was disabled on both machines for safety reasons.

[@PSUK]

We had two of these drill presses in our first year apprentice school. Both of them had their power feeds disabled so they could only be used manually. The instructor said it was for safety reasons and that first year apprentices were “not ready” for power fed drilling. The apprentices should really need to be able to “feel” the drill as it cut.

[@richardwalkden102]

Am I wrong or was there no video last Saturday? Look forward to my Saturday engineering fix! Hope all well with you and the family!

[@timharger3489]

What up putting oil back in it and how much and where to put it in ..please

[@antoniorivera5066]

Good morning steve viendo tu video en mi trabajo de securirt dando mi like y compartiendo tu video que están al 100 todos los videos me gustó tu proyecto de tu troka, saludos brother and elizabeth desdé Sonora México ✌️🤠 time 3:16 am

[@RiccBallard]

Hey how about trailer hitch covers engraved! that would be cool

[@CatNolara]

Very interesting, would also like to know what happened there. Best bet would propably be to find a gear with right module and tooth count and machine it to the needed dimensions and with the needed features.

[@dizzythesaler]

That's teespring for ya they always having issues it's why most ppl have started avoiding using them

[@j.j.clingman4083]

Steve I have herd several other KZbinrs also having trouble with T spring and it’s been in the last two to three weeks I have herd problems with the same place from 3 or 4 definitely youTubers!!

[@glennmoreland6457]

Several of my old flat belt driven machines use a similar arrangement for feed gears... A sliding plunger that locks each gear in turn onto it's shaft by use of a ball bearing and a spring... It's an idea that's been around a long time... See what someone like fenner gears have on the shelf.....and trim to suit... 🇬🇧😐

[@simonscott1121]

I dont think Elizabeth would be too good at catching mice Steve.

[@SeanBZA]

She is very good, calls in Steve to do so, or the cat.

[@voicubogdan84]

Great vid!