Broken iPhones and Meta Quest 3

[@BrandonHavard]

Here for the double David

[@ASENDOMUSIC]

Lets go!

[@Wesley_barus]

Haha

[@_o__o_]

onion farts

[@paneerbread]

Wait, what? Can someone explain to me?

[@dasariprakashrao]

Who is David there are only Andrew and Marques right

[@KieranMahoney]

marques was vibin the entire time during this episode!

[@Waveform]

he likes to pod

[@j.ballsdeep420]

I don't think I've heard him laugh so hard, either. My man had a spark today

[@Supercar-Baldie]

@@Waveformni-

[@KieranMahoney]

@@Supercar-Baldie dude that’s not even funny

[@alexisaguirrevideos]

@@j.ballsdeep420 😂 lmao probably

[@seadeep42]

Good to see Andrew finally reach 9 points in Trivia

[@Manganellia1]

Big comeback!

[@khalilchan2485]

@@Manganellia1omg hiii!

[@ChrisKerel]

I think a big thing that was missed in the photo discussion is whether the photo is still an accurate representation of the moment. If your kids are being demons and it's impossible to take a picture of them all looking at the camera it's a bit weird that in a few seconds you can have that picture and post it to the internet. It's another way in which the "social media world" makes things seem nicer than they actually are. It can reinforce the feeling for people that other people have a better life than them cause their kids actually look at the camera and behave.

[@trevorbeingtrevor]

This, that segment was a bit frustrating.

[@raiebread]

Also when taking large group photos it's impossible to get everyone with their eyes open/smiling properly so it's common to edit a few takes together so everyone's looking their best Like Adam said, I'd rather they do this than the weird AI manipulation from Google IO Not sure why this bit was such a philosophical issue for them lol

[@alexisaguirrevideos]

That’s a very good point. I like where you’re coming from with this take.

[@Manganellia1]

There's a difference between "all kids are being demons" and "the variables of multiple people (especially kids) increase for a single frame" If all your kids are going nuts this feature isn't going to do anything since it needs a good picture from that moment to replace. It's there for moments where a kid blinks, or a bug flies in someone's face, or someone sneezes. Small accidental moments. Also Google always lets you save a copy of edits, so this feature doesn't even mean you have to delete the silly ones. Just gives you the opportunity to stitch a photo together. Wedding photographers who take family photos do this all the time. It's just hard when you have multiple subjects

[@911jason]

@@Manganellia1it’s basically autocorrect for faces and I’m here for it!

[@jakkeddaw]

AI podcasts are starting to look really good.

[@rubenbest1]

I get excited every Friday morning to see this.

[@uziahnoel]

Another Friday, another podcast, this is literally the highlight of my day🙌🏾

[@MMouraable]

Am I the only one who first scrolls to the end of trivia to see how Andrew did, then come back to the start?

[@Manganellia1]

I don't know if I like or dislike this...

[@Waveform]

i like it

[@ceeincivan]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is it that bad? 😂😂

[@mayavril1]

🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

[@nicholas-s-timelines]

@@Waveformdidn’t Andrew end with 5 points in the last round? Somehow the number says 9 this round. Known issue?

[@iamanandakb]

The intro was so good and relevant, that I immediately screen recorded that part and put it as my WhatsApp status. LOL

[@mattjgraham]

Brilliant opening line! Steel Ball, neuralink, your head

[@mattjgraham]

You guessed it! It's the start of the weekend now in the UK! So happy for the weekly dose of WVFRM!!! :)

[@ax.studio89.design]

The paper clip and floppy disk thing about how kids these days don't know what they are reminded me of this article I published in my Ph.D. where we interviewed college students and ask them to identify the objects in computer icons. One of the kids "identified" the floppy disk as a fridge! When we asked him why he thinks it's a fridge, he said "well, that's where you save things!" lol

[@LuisChavezTV]

You know it’s Friday when there’s a new WVFM Podcast Episode #Friyay 💯🔥

[@MathematicPony]

I think a good question to ask about the whole face swap thing is: Are you trying to capture a moment that happened, or are you trying to capture a memory as you remember it? It's fundamentally the same problem I had growing up with family photos! Why are we taking photos where everyone lines up and smiles instead of taking photos of actual moments as they happened? This strikes me as the digital version of doing that, just easier.

[@vihach]

Almost 2h podcast 👀 it's going to be fun

[@artyss98gmpxcz76]

I'm starting to get excited about Friday not bcs there's weekend coming, but because there's the podcast ❤

[@BlackhartFilms]

The photo face swap thing is an interesting topic- personally I think its fine if its sampling from the same moment, because it makes a photo closer to our memory of the moment, which is ultimately what we want to capture is how the moment felt. We remember smiling and laughing and everyone enjoying, we don't remember than 1ms moment where John was smiling, Ted was picking something from his teeth, Emily was mid-sneeze... we want the moment where everything and everyone was at their best and how we actually reflect on that experience. The little nuances might get lost, but what are you doing with a family photo? Are you trying to make a documentary of that exact moment, or capture a memory of how it felt to be there?

[@Manganellia1]

Thank you! Also based on Google's history of photo editing, it'll most likely save as a copy after so I'm guessing you'll still have the burst of photos and ALSO get the stitched one!

[@ivybator6167]

Also a good point 😮!Thank you

[@sageakporherhe783]

I love the philosophical conversation about pixel face swap 😂

[@simplemindedmoron]

Remember the time when some guy allegedly interviewed Michael Schumacher and then later revealed that he used AI to do that...?

[@PixZTech]

Finally the new podcast episode has been released

[@nonstopper]

Poggers 🎉🙌

[@Joric78]

128 GB Quest 2 is $299USD now, which is an upgrade from the 64GB version for $299 at launch. Quest Pro's remaining advantages are the internally tracking controllers (tracks accurately regardless of occlusion), 12GB RAM and eye tracking. Eye tracking is the major one in terms of spatial computing and the future of VR interfaces. The double tap passthrough feature has been available on the Quest 2 for years now as a safety and convenience option, so I don't think the feature itself is a response to Apple. Although the new animation on the Quest 3 might have been Apple "inspired".

[@evpilot89]

Thanks! Someone to correct all the biased opinions on VR and MR. Big difference between what the quest pro can do and what the quest 3 will. Also I have never felt any latency on the passthrough of the quest 2. Just a bit of latency will be enough to get you dizzy.

[@DarthBenneth]

I remember when Apple killed iTunes by separating it into separate apps (music, books, podcasts, etc.) and I found it actually to be successful. iTunes at that point had been so muddled by everything it was trying to do, so that separation actually helped streamline audio content for Apple and makes it so much better and clean.

[@filipmarkovic369]

I love it when VR news is featured in this podcast

[@evpilot89]

Why? They are usually uninformed. Every time you just notice that since they are not interested in the technology they are super biased in the whole topic. Pro and quest 3 have the big difference of eye and face tracking, as well for tracking cameras in the controllers. Quest pro was never intended as a gaming headset much like the apple vision pro.

[@Ashlord]

My name is Victor, so I was doing some laundry, and I had my phone to the side listening to the podcast, and all of a sudden, Marques said "Victor" and I was so spooked. I just responded, "Yeah?" 😂

[@djdoxblox]

Face swap is highlighting the point that photos are really art as much as moments. The only person who will know the face swap will be the photo editor. Therefore, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

[@Tanner4pacers]

Meta and AI in the same sentence scare the sh*t out of me. It's also funny how they didn't say the word privacy once but who is surprised? Another great podcast!

[@zaqstvnsn4633]

How does meta scare you more than Microsoft or Google or Amazon?

[@kft4764]

​@zaqstvnsn4633 Meta's core business is learning every moment of your life, including figuring out who you know. I've had some creepy suggestions for people you may know. That is less true with the other companies you mentioned. Google does some of what Meta does for it's business, but nowhere with nowhere near the same detail and personally identifying info. Microsoft and Amazon are even further from that, ie you are not their primary product.

[@malikfaisal416]

Scary and also funny

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Did anyone else notice another David behind David in the thumbnail? 😂

[@Waveform]

it's his digital twin 😅

[@austinschmidt8228]

It’s from “Microsoft leaked the future of Xbox” thumbnail the week prior

[@Serl0p]

Andrew, I'm totally with you in regards to the group pictures. It is really not that different from HDR pictures, just instead of combining exposures you're combining poses from the same moment. Definitely not a problem, and rather a great feature. And if you have a issue with that, then don't use it, solved! And, for the record, I love film photography. They are just almost different media at this point... Both being pictures anyway, one digital and the other analogue 🤷‍♂️

[@digitalnomadtrader]

Google dropping podcasts makes me seriously consider going back to iPhones. Podcasts is the only app with a painless way to at least stream on a computer and maintain your play history. YT Music is really annoying since when I sub an artist their music videos start showing up in my KZbin feed. Google seems to consider this a "feature". I'm definitely a fan of single purpose apps.

[@steve916]

Thanks for coming over Nick .. much appreciated.. if it’s dry tomorrow gonna road test gloves 👍🙏

[@iam.divyaansh]

The phone remembered that it was in heat , and it forget to overheat , so it overheated later to compensate

[@isaacmijangos]

Hearing Andrew cuss and be upset is one of the funniest things in the world 😂😂😂

[@ceeincivan]

Ellis missing for 34 minutes???!!!! That was torture guuuuys 💔

[@nish6106]

the intro is the best 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@U2haveanicedayty2]

Been watching since just MKB and love all their content. I don’t know why everyone says David and MKB sound the same.Awesome work guys love the Content.✌️💯

[@Krieky]

“…and Tom Brady won’t be in two lawsuits” was the funniest remark ever! Thanks, Durvid! 😂

[@alexdylan04]

That headset makes the user look like the aliens from toy story

[@iakobkv271]

Love how Meta ignored MKBHD with the quest 3 😂😂😂

[@UltravioletMind]

I think the reason the 15 pro is breaking is due to a slight gap between the frame and the back panel. If you pay attention, you see Jerrys finger leave an impression where he pressed. This might be because of the new "repairable" design. The glass is supported around the edges but theres space in the middle . Like pressing against glass on a flat surface, no effect . now lift that same glass a couple mm on both ends and press. The glass will flex in the middle and eventually break

[@TheEnthraller]

There is a hole in the supporting aluminum backplate where the wireless charger coil is That's probably the reason

[@Dk-qf8dd]

No 15 here, but during the beta testing for 17, on both the 13 Pro Max and iPad Pro 11, there would be random times during general use the device would jump to around 100F or more then after a few minutes drop back to normal. Never have identified why and why I suspect it is a software issue. I have not seen this under iOS15 or iOS16. I also noticed that the high temps consumed more battery.

[@jaydarke]

This. I've noticed the same trend with WatchOS10

[@alexisaguirrevideos]

Interesting.

[@SurgeFYSB]

always love checking in with the boys

[@Target135]

Totally with Andrew on the face swap. If you want to capture it exactly as it happened, just DON’T use the feature 😂

[@garfieldhwa8957]

wake up from west coast, check the notifications , new episode released, perfect Friday beginning…🎉

[@moritzdeimel589]

Hey, great episode as always.👌😁 Just so you know, the source on the Ray-Ban insert says Microsoft instead of Meta. 1:27

[@joshuacst]

I have to mention the music slowly fading in before break is dope.

[@Fliptricksftwdude]

I may be pretty oldschool on this one but I found all of the proposed alterations of the photo bad. It’s just not authentic. If your kids look sad in the picture than they looked sad in the picture. If you look back at this picture in a couple of years and think that your kids were happy in this picture because some ai swapped the faces than that’s just not what happened in this moment. Maybe they looked happy before and hated that you took the photo. Then show that they hated it. I really despise the tendency to make photos look „perfect“ or whatever. Adjust some lighting and colors, fine, but alternating objects or people displays a reality that is different from the one you’re in. And I don’t like that.

[@link2297]

I love that super funky intro and it's so nice marques is putting his team on like this 🙌🏽

[@Ecl1psE5]

Since you shared the news of Google podcast going away during the episode I switched to KZbin music and I'm definitely enjoying being able to consume this in video or audio. I guess maybe I won't be too sad about Google podcasts going away. Lol

[@DanielPierce]

The issue with the cracked back glass is that the glass is no longer bonded to the hardware, the QI coil is bonded to the glass and now there is a slight gap between the back of the QI coil and the mid frame, so if you put your thumbs right where Zach put his and push really hard you will be able to flex the glass enough to break it.

[@guvkon]

Friday is blessed on podcasts. So many good ones come out and I listen for them all weekend long :)

[@levzowk]

You guys are being wayyyyy too easy on the iPhone with both the terrible battery and durability, I know he said @mkbhd’s quote on stage but we love you cause you’re usually so objective

[@kettyspikes]

I'm really sad Google podcasts is going away. That's my go-to app for podcasts, I've hated every other app

[@amariwiggins6640]

Factss...i don't know where to go now 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ KZbin music doesn't work in my country

[@arth0heen]

I've embraced AntennaPod

[@hi55us2]

Best part about Fridays! Love the HTC cha-cha-cha lol, I've never laughed so hard

[@carumbas]

Waveform Crew: “Stop using that picture of iPhone with broken off camera!” *put the exactly that picture on a thumbnail of a podcast.

[@nuvjoti]

Funny short would be having David sit on the other side and dubbing Marques’ voice over it for the double David convo.

[@omerari4484]

That Yellowstone hat 🔥 reminded me how much i missed Bozeman..

[@the_yesnt1358]

Its interesting because apple went in the other direction, splitting iTunes in podcasts, music, books etc

[@IndiaIICL]

Exited for Meta Quest 3 Review!

[@BLennox_]

At last!!! My Friday can begin.

[@elikyals]

The Pluto moment was very funny 😂😂.

[@PacNorthOR]

Seeing this pop just made my day 😅 THANK YOU

[@Andrei-Rex]

It’s hilarious to hear three people who don’t speak any other language, but their native language, talking about translating and interpreting. The hubris is insane.

[@biishall]

The friday begins..

[@_neko_neku_]

> be me > bought a pixel 8 because the pink color looks good > took a selfie indoors and wants to try out face swap > *missclicks on a wall plug* > *Has different options to swap a "face"* > *Swaps face of the wall plug with random friend's* > *Saves*

[@elmaikitofficial]

The quest 3 is going to be a nice upgrade but they should've extended the battery life

[@0x0michael]

they did they but also extended the power so nw we have the same battery life

[@sandervanluyn7017]

The discussion about milk bottles. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheBrown03]

My 13 Pro Max has taken a significant hit in terms of battery life. Also overheating a lot. Really hope Apple fixes this.

[@Truth_Seeker1]

Apple have confirmed It’s a 3rd party apps that need to update and there is a iOS 17 bug.

[@carcface]

"We went to the beach this weekend. Here's a composite of several photos that represent a theoretical moment we had there."

[@Lr-tv3mh]

Always find some peace listening to this in the evening

[@OverWilliam]

7:30 I wonder if having each of the audio tracks from each podcast host run through AI translation independently could preserve the overlapping and back-and-forth in a way that trying to only translate the final combined audio track couldn't do

[@theoldwaywasbetter6384]

I hate how you guys just blow off Apple's phones shattering and overheating like it's "just another gate." You'd be ripping android phones to pieces over the same thing. I hate how Apple gets a pass, but I suppose you've got to keep those review units coming in early

[@makr.]

Exactly what I was thinking. They probably want to be on Apple's good side to get invites to events and review units. Really hurts their integrity though.

[@highsurf]

Phone without a case drops on ground and the glass breaks Marques: Shocked Pikachu face

[@Dk-qf8dd]

Gotta luv the foreign films where they are speaking language “A”, sub-title language “B”, and Voice-Over with language “B”. But the “B”’s don’t match. 😅😂

[@MisterSixty]

*THANK YOU* for keeping the time under *three hours* (unlike another tech channel's podcast that I won't watch (live) until it's time-stamped) 😖🤭

[@UserfeedbackbyTea]

Andrew made it 9 for himself

[@bemtheman1100]

the audio for the iphone 15pro was indeed a banger, probably THE banger ngl

[@technocatification]

I think photos that are imperfect are the best part - I hope AI doesn’t make us too obsessed with audited perfection. The imperfections are perfect

[@ulaseti3724]

I guess the line is, what the software is fixing. When you guys talked about HDR, it was just fixing the camera sensors inability to see diffrent exposures at the same time. It fixes the lack of dynamic range in the sensor which your eye can actually see all of the details in the scene at diffrent brightness levels. Or in film Photography example. While editing the colors, you are just fixing the physical limitations in the scanner or the chemichal process. But when you edit out someone in the bacground or swap a face, you are fixing the real life. You are changing the moment.

[@johnnychamp3229]

I came here to praise the iPhone 15 intro music but yall got it covered

[@vlad2718]

Google face swap: why Polaroid is a thing. “Make a picture of me having fun with my children at Disneyland” and you’ll never actually take a real one.

[@darknesswithin0]

55:38 Love the way Andrew blew the whistle on frontline workers!

[@Whyyalltakecheeboohandles]

Yayyyyyy, it was a great review you dropped yesterday too!

[@paradox_3000]

I agree with keeping my music player and podcast on separate apps

[@TobeyGuthrie]

I love this podcast

[@autodidact495]

1400 Calories for Milk?..come on David 😂😂

[@japanesenovice]

Previous episode Marques said sh*t this episode he said f*ck and I'm all for it 😂. Can't wait for the next bleep!

[@BMWROYAL]

1:33:00 or maybe the whole idea of transparent mode being adaptive is actually just super useful in general

[@chrisbarlow7413]

Hosts confirmed to have legs during the Apple event podcast 😂

[@deRykcihC]

Surface Laptop Studio is nice on outside but a nightmare to get inside, the most memorable stuff from those review videos are the repairability of that laptop, the glue is so thick like it's a one way disassembly operation.

[@PujanPanoramicPizzazz]

Barney Stinson be like “oh please, cameras love me”

[@HadiNuf]

I'm a new iPhone user. Using a brand new apple account, my iPhone 15 Pro Max is getting insane battery. Like 5 hours screen on time and not getting lower than 50% battery. Pretty impressed. Maybe it's something with older accounts giving permissions to specific apps or services?

[@PBRAEF]

Discussing if bottles of milk exist, was crazy

[@GazGaryGazza]

I installed IOS 17 on my 12 Pro Max and the battery was drastically poorer. Have the 15 Pro Max and no issues so far

[@roychang723]

Andrew's score is wrong tho lmaoo

[@Waveform]

damn yeah that was my bad 😭 it'll be fixed next week! - Adam

[@sarhan_]

@@WaveformAight g, it’s all cool

[@yordanisg81]

me too, me too, I though you meant Pluto, the cartoon character 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@GazGaryGazza]

Zack's (JerryRigEverything) tests are now iconic that you'd think phone manufacturers constructed phones with those tests in mind for durability

[@BarginsGalore]

i feel like the example of a family outing is part of what makes the face swap super off putting. The value of those photos is looking back years later and jogging your memory of that moment but the more the photo is changed not only does it do that less but it creates false memories. making all the kids smile is replacing “remember when that seagull stole your ice cream and you were miserable until you found that shiny rock” with “we were at a merry-go-round once”. It’s providing the opportunity for the mom to get a nicer picture to post on facebook and the expense of having photos of her kids. At the corporate retreat sure fix the guy who always blinks when the photo goes off but I don’t wouldn’t want all the imperfections erased from my childhood photos.

[@gururajsawant]

And we saw that you've been testing S24 Ultra already.... The 10x zoom shot comparison from the review...

[@Ryan.zelenski]

I normally listen to you guys on Google podcasts because it comes out earlier

[@AdamTyree]

This photo discussion is hilarious. Original "photos" had super slow shutters, so they took like 20-30 seconds. Are they not photos??