Google's Epic Loss!

Andrew is back! This week, Marques, Andrew, and David bring back the chaos and discuss the Google Gemini video being heavily edited, Beeper Mini being taken down by Apple, a new update to the Meta's Ray-Ban AI glasses that makes them multimodal, and the surprising outcome to the Google Vs Epic court case. There's a lot to get into! Then Andrew chimes in on a few stories that he's missed before we close it out with trivia. Enjoy!
Chapters
00:00 Intro
02:18 Google Gemini Video recap
07:11 Meta x Ray-Ban Glasses
13:58 Google AI Biographer
22:10 Trivia
22:56 Visible (Sponsored)
23:53 Google v. Epic
35:51 Apple Vision Pro Spatial Video experience
43:53 Trivia
42:24 Ad break
45:29 Andrew's Take On...
01:01:34 Trivia Answers
01:07:25 Outro
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Beeper Mini Update: www.beeper.com/update
Google's AI Demo: bit.ly/4aj9VsV
Google's AI Storyteller: bit.ly/41uQx8o
Epic v. Google: bit.ly/3Rm4Nvy
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[@WalidAmghar]

Welcome back Andrew and congratulations 🎉❤

[@_suri_99]

Congratulations on being a dad!

[@ajpetix]

The cuts to Mariah cringing at Andrew and David's comments gives me life.

[@Happy_Abe]

Same too funny 😂

[@armanke13]

Wait, when? I'm using youtube as podcast (not looking)

[@ElusiveTy]

@@armanke13 19:00 is one example

[@ngdnhatanh]

@@armanke1319:36

[@Leanzazzy]

19:36 She's thinking that it's the kids' version of XxPu55yS1ayerxX 😂

[@mrgarywong]

"Hey Meta, how do I fix this sink?" Meta: "Call a plumber. You have no chance of fixing this."

[@Idefilms]

My experience was *significantly* enhanced by starting with the audio version this morning - I had NO IDEA Marques was wearing sunglasses until y'all finally mentioned it at 7:12 😄

[@Manganellia1]

Everyone saying welcome back, thank you so much 🩷 I missed being on the pod, but really enjoyed my parental leave (that I'll be taking more of later, but I'll be coming in every week just to record Waveform!)

[@adnaan2341994]

Congratulations Andrew!

[@kenadam77777]

Congrats, man!

[@brandonmalin4178]

Mariah just lurking in the background is such a vibe

[@ghost_endy]

right??

[@emptywords9569]

Who's she? what role does she have on the pod?

[@kaylah9206]

commenting to get the answer lmao

[@jess75_]

@@emptywords9569She’s the main channel’s editor if I’m not mistaken

[@CritChris]

SO good to have Andrew back! It feels like it’s been forever since everyone was here!!

[@ryanduggan7632]

Seeing Andrew back in the Intro made me so happy. They crew is back together LETS GOOOOO😂

[@vesves_4]

Mariah going to get involved in the pod perchance?!? If not, requesting her presence more often if only for her S-tier eyerolling. I also don’t think food nutritional value can be determined by just appearance right now. Un-subtle flex, but I make an amazing vegan lasagna. If you just show it a picture of this lasagna, it would not know whether the ricotta is made with tofu, and that there’s a blend of red lentils in the sauce to give it a meaty flavor. Even for noodles it probably wouldn’t be able to tell if pasta is made with regular wheat or if it’s chickpeas.

[@Guerreropowerr]

Hey Mariah is finally in the recording studio!

[@Skeelo333]

They should’ve done baby related trivia questions or like baby tech stuff to help Andrew catch up from paternity leave!

[@alexisaguirre6349]

Facts

[@Leanzazzy]

Did you know that babies need to burp after drinking milk? Have you ever heard them? I didn't know this until I was taking care of my newborn niece. She was so tiny and adorable, but when she burped I used to get scared 😅

[@mattjgraham]

It's the weekend in the UK! Closer to Christmas! :) Merry Christmas, guys. Congrats Andrew too! :) Welcome back

[@chhitijpahari1011]

4 pm

[@zGoalOfficial]

4:09 pm

[@chhitijpahari1011]

@@zGoalOfficial 4:30

[@none_the_less]

I remember you from previous comments Matt from the UK!

[@sanjeevstunner]

We need more of Mariah in the pod, I like how she doesnt understand the things that the boys enjoy, and cringing over David and Andrews comments and that adds a new dimension to the pod

[@uttupatel7776]

Congrats Andrew. What would Marques say when he has a newborn…”Hey guys, I’m testing this baby since last 3 weeks…”😂 just for fun. Btw nice Easter egg in episode “Maria”😅

[@nateblunt]

40:51 No need to miss them, Photo Sphere is still an option on my Pixel 7

[@pierreburton4523]

Still have it on my Pixel6, and my phone even updated this morning... Are we sure it's dead? Camera app 9.2

[@likwitfaded]

Came here to say this

[@SamyadeepPurkayastha]

Using it in gcam mods

[@eb014105]

I took a photosphere in a nice place in Italy last year... And there's loads of 360 cameras surely??

[@malfaroangel3896]

David was praising last week that Beeper mini wasn’t gonna get cut off 😂, such unfortunate timing

[@4NW3SH]

Andrew is back AND Mariah is here as well? We cooking with fire today

[@KA-lt2tu]

Congrats Andrew! Welcome back! 🎉

[@RhawiDantas]

I love listening to the pod in the subway or while driving but I get a kick watching you guys cos the editing is so on point. That OMG at kids online. What a nice touch. Cheers

[@DynastyEmory]

Nice to see Andrew back and Mariah in the Podcast again.

[@ydorni5923]

Was there a podcast with Maria in the mic?

[@hnacs8117]

@@ydorni5923no, Just that we finally see Mariah here

[@U2haveaniceday20]

Awww so glad to see Andrew back Congrats to you and family.Such awesome to see everyone together. Thanks so much for sharing all.Always Enjoy.✌️💯

[@AbdullahHumayun06]

AYYYY Andrew's back!!!! Welcome back bro. Missed you and congrats on the baby!

[@pmpetry]

Mariah in the background is EVERYTHING😂😂🤣🤣

[@PrajwalDSouzaCrazyTalks]

So glad that Andrew is back! And it's strange, this is the first time I've observed this. Andrew sounds more like Grant Sanderson.

[@rabtecho]

Congrats Andrew and welcome back! 🥳🎉 Hi Mariah and finally on WVFRM👏

[@Jezee213]

ANDREW!! great to see you back again! Congrats on the little bundle of joy. 🎉

[@CreaminFreeman]

Having Andrew back is the breath of fresh air I needed on this Friday which is actually 2 Mondays standing atop one another in a Friday trench coat!

[@reignofmo]

so good to have andrew back! congratulations on the new addition

[@LAFC_3252_]

So I have a Pixel 6 Pro and I use photosphere mode at least once a week. It's an awesome feature that works perfectly when I want to demonstrate a POV to a client (I'm a wedding coordinator). I WAS NOT AWARE this feature was lost in 8 series! I was just about to upgrade over the holidays but that totally is a deal breaker! This should have been a trivia question !!

[@EverybodyJeff]

It's been on my Pixel Fold since I got it and it's still there in the newest QPR beta that just updated a few days ago. Stitching is almost flawless and it's super immersive on the foldable display

[@lypanov]

It's even on the 6A why on earth wouldn't the later models have it???

[@seldoon_nemar]

My favorite Google photos hack has to be the map. I love road trips, and it shows a string of all the photos I took out and back along the map, and I can grab all the photos I've taken around the area. You can scrub the map around and use it as a location filter

[@siddharthanburajan4754]

Andrew is just amazing. Pulling out a potential video idea with the trolley problem just like that. Damn.

[@odilapivato]

I was listening to the pod at Apple Podcasts but when Andrew said Mariah was there at the end, I had to come here to see because not a word was said and I love that she was just an easter egg.

[@chie88]

that feature in the meta glasses would be so useful for the visually impaired

[@tituswillb]

@WVFRM great talk! I love the sarcasm and jokes.. and Andrew is finally back 😅😂

[@onalethatarampogo385]

The whole team is back, awesome!!!

[@AaronFigFront]

LiDAR module is different on iPhone 15 pro. Less dots but increased power on each dot to project further, and much more frequent projection. Might have been another reason spatial video can only be on the 15 pro.

[@carlbelmonte]

Listening from the PH! ✔ and welcome back, Andrew. Looking forward for more studio content, too.

[@daledeandrade3697]

Im really curious how useful the meta assistant and glasses could be for someone with visual impairment. Could be a fantastic tool for it to read something and give you the helpful information quickly

[@percisilverwish]

Think about how incredible the RayBan's could be for people with vision impairments. Having something that can audibly confirm what it can see for you, pretty amazing!

[@redamancyCT]

so happy to have andrew back, we missed you :))

[@wolfthunder3480]

It's been ages Andrew 🙃 Anyway welcome back to the squad

[@drachna]

The KZbin Music podcast player is actually pretty lit, you can cross comment from it and see the video feed and everything. You can also access timestamps, and it helps you keep your KZbin consumption habits under control if you have it on a timer but don't want to count podcasts.

[@quaysoncornel]

The Rayban Meta is really cool, and I can see this helping the blind in the future... when multimodal ai features evolve for realtime video 🎉

[@shubhamthakur8530]

Welcome back Andrew & congrats

[@niccunningham2217]

Anyone who watched Top Gear would remember the story about the Ferrari F40 becoming the first car the break 200mph, and then the Porsche 959 taking the record from Ferrari shortly thereafter.

[@TewodrosWondimu]

Andrew is back! Watching him trying to catchup in points is gonna be fun. 😄

[@CelestialVeggie]

They've never stopped having photospheres, and it's improved quite a bit over time. It's still in the Pixel's camera app as far as I can tell.

[@adithyaudupa]

I came here from the audio podcast to say this! 😅 I've seen it used on the pixel, so it's definitely a current feature.

[@brendanvista]

It's not available on the P8 or P8P.

[@AlexSchendel]

20:30 Google Maps also has the timeline feature which keeps a detailed log of where you go and what kind of transportation you use to get there. Definitely dystopian, but also useful... 😅

[@flourish_ol]

Pro tip: If you want to narrow down where marques studio is check where it would be sunny ,41 degrees Fareneight tomorrow in carney new jersey

[@BertramBonde]

Come on just put the whole studio in the podcast! We love Maria

[@koteiryuu-sensei]

I have the Pixel 6 and just gotta say the photosphere option is available in my camera app (even with the newest update)

[@gipvision6937]

The only Tech podcast worth listening to. You are awesome! :)

[@satlev]

Congratulations Andrew! Heres a dad anecdote for you. I am relatively new parent with several Google assistants that we routinely ask for help so I guess it was inevitable that our one year old third word (after mamá and book) was "Google" which he now repeats constantly triggering all the devices around the house. Also, 51:13 The StandbyME Go is a dream come true for a lot of people in the military that are gamers.

[@abelpepper]

Calories and carbs are generally determined by a calculation from the fiber, sugar, protein, moisture, and mineral content that are derived from other assays (usually HPLC or a vacuum oven for moisture). There are other ways to go about getting a general idea, but this was how my previous company did so for labels.

[@Manganellia1]

I swore I watched a Hank Green video once that said essentially the way they find calories is by essentially blowing up the food and they can somehow calculate it through that?

[@abelpepper]

@@Manganellia1 that’s one of the other options! Generally for FDA nutrition panels, companies opt for the testing of individual components and calculating from that

[@hwadeiv]

Hi Andrew, welcome back. I hope your family is doing well. You probably don't get enough sleep!

[@ceblaze]

I still use photosohere ALL THE TIME. Especially when I'm on vacation. The stitching has gotten leagues better, too.

[@lowwastehighmelanin]

Congrats on bean arrival, Andrew! Welcome back!

[@hi55us2]

Welcome back Andrew, as a fellow new Dad I wish you all the best, it's certainly been an adventure for me!

[@ADKBuddy]

Congratulations! ❤

[@supercarlos345]

We missed you Andrew congrats on your newborn🎉❤

[@mr.sloth.]

about the glasses, it seems a great gadget to help visually impaired people. And Welcome Andrew, we missed you

[@AlexSchendel]

50:05 I mean, all restaurants with 20 or more locations are required by the FDA to provide nutritional information for their menu, so for instances where you eat at chain restaurants, it will be pretty much exact.

[@Rhemmaa]

0:30 Is that Mariah I seeee And Andrew is back?! Yay!

[@MelissaAtwell]

11:04 “Controller unplugged” 😂

[@969Lokisan]

"meta what do you see?" Could be quite interesting for people with sight impairment!

[@mitulbhatnagar983]

Congratulations Andrew and welcome back.

[@AV.Creative]

Andrew's definitely on the 1… 2… run again lol He’s gonna be on the grind to catch up

[@NeilMcPda]

Google have rolled out spatial panoramas in Pixel 8 pro, which can be viewed on cardboard. It's happening automatically when taking a panorama and it doesn't seen to have been advertised yet which makes me think it's a prelude to a feature rivaling the apple offering

[@OPGamified]

13:35 Marques gets soo excited about these smart glasses 😂

[@lorenzodaniels6486]

Congratulations Andrew!!😊

[@dharminparekh]

Yes, Photo Sphere feature is still on my Pixel 7, but I didn't see it on my friend's Pixel 8.

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

[@aminalhaq23]

With the Vision Pro, the Apple Maps street view would probably work very well, then. Since it has a natural parallax effect and it'll look like you're really there. I wonder if they'll allow for user submissions for Apple Maps Street View (probably not).

[@punintendedd]

haven't watched all the way through but another difference between apple and google lawsuit, is there is more than one app store available on android: play store, samsung store etc. Google was giving preferential treatment to developers to go to the play store rather than device specific app stores

[@RaggedyAndy8455]

Literally said “oh sh*t” during that meta glasses demo. That’s next level

[@edmond.chong4]

I would be interested to see if you can ask the meta glasses “can I park here?” While looking at a street parking sign.

[@RichmenInc]

Okay.. those meta glasses are pretty cool

[@diogocarvalho2934]

Photo Sphere has always been in the Google camera app and it still is in my Pixel 6

[@noahroberson6839]

Glad your back Andrew😊

[@dman7895]

Andrew is largely correct on the calorie count point - even a standard food serving thats prepackaged has widely varying calorie counts and whats on the packaging is more of an average

[@GreggGordon]

Google did state that Photosperes have been sunset, but on my Pixel 7 Pro, in the latest version of the Camera app that just came out this week, I still have Photospheres.

[@lypanov]

Ditto on my Pixel 6A. Why on earth would they remove this it's awesome!

[@blipmachine]

Congratulations to Andrew for an epic return to the waveform podcast! Truly a proud moment for him.

[@matt28788]

I'm surprised they didn't know photo sphere was still a thing. I use it all the time, even though it is pretty rough 😂

[@baquerizojp]

42:45 I still have photo sphere on my Pixel 7, it is not dead. I am on the latest Android update, it is still on the stock camera app!

[@KennethJYang]

Regarding Google's AI Biographer: I think we're forgetting that it is Google's business to know everything they can about you so they can serve you targetted ads. So regardless of the data it pulls from your device they already have a digital profile of you based on your online activity that they could use to feed the models.

[@yaacovtimes2]

In two days Marques is going to come out with a release saying that the meta Ray-Ban prompts and answers were staged and not real 😂

[@Zack-dw5op]

Woo welcome back andrew!

[@guii5041]

Such a banger of a video. I thoroughly enjoyed understanding how Tim Cook became such an important figure in Apple’s history and this honestly made me appreciate Apple as a brand more.

[@chie88]

what if Ray-Ban produces a horror movie. Blind MC: Hey Meta, look and tell me what you see. Glasses: I see a man in front of you holding a big ass knife. Blind MC: Hey Meta, can you make it funnier?

[@luciuscreamer6379]

I still have photo sphere on my Pixel 6, gonna start using it more often

[@matejmatic1373]

I didnt hear anyone talk about this but like if these meta glasses or any other smart glasses develop enough it can be very useful for blind people. i mean it doesnt even have to be glasses, cant they make a camera that is connected to second part that you can hold in your pocket. there would be much more room if needed. imagine pressing a button and it just starts talking what is in front of you

[@_emmad]

Photospheres are there in the Google camera when you go to the right inside the photos options 41:13

[@OPGamified]

9:22 Look at David’s face 🤣

[@arafatahmed3920]

I have photosphere on my pixel 7, and it has been here forever. Do you guys not have it in the US?

[@lilmamaxyungpapa]

14:34 tell me i'm not alone who got that thing in my head just immediately

[@dman7895]

great explainer of the Apple and Google v Epic cases, esp including that Apple did lose a key part of the case. As for the Epic v Google remedy, Judge Donato said he will have to hold hearings later to hear how to remedy and make some rulings to rectify the market power a unanimous jury decided Google has over the android app marketplace

[@OPGamified]

9:50 I want that glass now 😂

[@Samersmadi5]

Nice to see Andrew back !

[@DaLukeDude99]

What do you mean the photo sphere got cancelled i just used it on my 7 pro before the recent ui update it was in the more section it was never removed from the default camera app i use it a bunch and while its not perfect i get a lot of great reactions from it

[@iwilpraiseu]

I am glad u told us why you're wearing sunglasses. I thought you were going celebrity on us.

[@chiadika]

Living legend!! Congratulations on the Turbo S man