Why Todo vs Nanami Isn't Close

[@malo9332]

We need how Miwa solo the whole jjk universe

[@aboody8618]

Miwa > Yuta

[@BrokenRonin]

If your comment gets... 1000 likes I'll make that video. I'll make 20 + minutes too

[@sachyas]

you all heard the man !!!!

[@malo9332]

@@BrokenRonin easy feat for MKK cult

[@lix1806]

I like

[@hyperjuce1782]

It's actually sometimes painful to see Nanami lose so many fights.

[@correlgamers7518]

Yh, especially for me since he is my favorite character in JJK.

[@ll-bz8re]

The extremely competent professional who just can't keep up with all the plot relevant special boys 😔

[@Dan-gi6tf]

I don't feel this about Nanami since he's clearly a side character. I feel this about Megumi: the first curse spirits we see in Yuji's school was trashing him, 3-finger Sukuna was trashing him, Todo was trashing him, and even that blood Kamo guy was giving him a hard time. I just feel bad for him, even his current scale in the manga, he's being trashed by side characters and can barely survive.

[@prabhatdeshmukh9592]

@@Dan-gi6tf Thing is Megumi is meant for greatness so people won't downplay him in discussions like these, and his recent fight with Reggie was a legitimate W.

[@TheEnigmaWithTheQuestionMark]

I know how you feel cause jogo my favourite character

[@yokuutsu9097]

"Ratio lil bro." - Nanami, as he lands a 7 to 3 Black Flash on a Cursed Spirit

[@bushamo]

Damn shoulda thought of that

[@largocharles8729]

Ratio'd

[@yebzy]

This is a top tier comment

[@Fyodorswife01]

Domain expansion: get ratio’d

[@LegoBeerusTheDestroyer]

1k likes and 4 comments lemme help

[@DapperZay]

I think you severely underestimated Nanami’s durability. He fought against Dagon inside his domain, lost his eye during the fight, then got set on fire be Jogo ( who arguably has the highest AP of the Disaster Curses ) and was still fighting Dozens of Transfigured Humans before he died. Bro is a tank

[@diamonshade7484]

I was so upset when his group got jumped after a Domain battle, they literally got 3rd partied 😢

[@DapperZay]

@@diamonshade7484 And it was against Jogo, one of the strongest cursed spirits we’ve seen yet 😭

[@RealFlex111]

Doesn’t really matter cause of 2 reasons they would’ve all died if toji didn’t come through and carry so honestly doesn’t matter then jogo hit him but didn’t finish the job cause sukuna was getting revived/powered up

[@DapperZay]

@@RealFlex111 Just cause “he would’ve died anyways” doesn’t take from the actual fact of what’s going on in reality. And to add to that, Todo doesn’t have the AP of the people you mentioned such as Toji or Jogo. Plus, Nanami was one of the few characters shown to resist Idle Transfiguration. So like I said, bro is a tank

[@kalilasqary4090]

​@@DapperZayprobably the strongest curse spirit we've seen if you exclude JJK 0 Rika

[@dem_b0nez193]

Nanimis durability is actually pretty good- considering he doesn’t have an anti domain technique it’s pretty impressive for nanami to take less damage than the old sorcerer who did, he pretty much just sat there and tanked it with raw durability

[@gjesse25]

The old sorcerer you're speaking Saw nanami as less of a threat so he only used 30% of his power on him

[@TreeGGwi]

@@gjesse25ummm the old sorcerer was the was taking the 70%, Dagon was The was dealing the damage

[@gjesse25]

@TreeGGwi yeah I know I worded it badly lol I meant he had 70% of dagons power used on him my b

[@dem_b0nez193]

@@gjesse25 wow ten months after I made the comment 🤔 I still think my point stands tho, nanami doesn’t have simple domain or falling blossom emotion and if Dagon was focusing 70 percent on old man zeniin that means there is a 40% difference between him and nanami when it comes to output of damage taken… I don’t think it would be a stretch to assume old dudes falling blossom emotion would make him take 40% less damage an they’d be around equal and in which case ol man lost an arm and nanami lost an eye🤷‍♂️

[@tobitoeditz6090]

​@@dem_b0nez193actually jogo used 30% on both nanami and maki so its really only about 15%, big difference.

[@MattGarcyaDC]

Nanami is just a phenomenal Role player. Like those plays are in the nba who aren't superstars or even stars but just great role players

[@rickylukecage4215]

No he's like a mike conley in the western conference. He's a star it's just that he's surronded by superstars so it makes him look less special it's like a zack randolf or a chris bosh joining the heat.

[@uniqueskill962]

@@rickylukecage4215 omg. I love thE anime/ basketball explanation. I understand exactly what you mean bro. 😢😢😢😢

[@kyoungt14]

I like these comments especially when talking about Nanami cause of the fact that he brought up Black Flash and “Being in the zone”. Honestly that scene for me reminds me of when a player like Steph or Lebron just goes straight off and there’s nothing you can do about it

[@Necroskull388]

He's not a tactical genius like Todo, but he's a strong strategic thinker -- where Todo crashes into bad situations and then finds creative ways to win because he's a literal actual crazy person, Nanami is observant and serious and would be way more likely to engineer a situation where he has the advantage before the fight starts.

[@Januaryof28]

hes a good character but hes arrogant unlike todo

[@animationdude9]

Honestly can’t tell if I love or hate your *_”Isn't Close”_* series lol. Almost hurts having to come to terms with the researched fact my favorite characters ain’t shit🥲

[@Zen_Zay]

Need Todo to show up soon in the Culling Games. Hopefully with a healed hand or his CT modified to just a finger snap or something similar.

[@time2play961]

Ngl it would feel like that Todo's hand being cut off and his CT being closed off while helping his friend would be like useless as if he was just going to get his CT back

[@Zen_Zay]

@@time2play961 not really I get the whole “sacrifice my hand to help” point but he could also make a binding vow allowing his CT to return at cost of something. That’s the most reasonable way for his technique to come back. But they also have two people on their side that are capable of healing very significant injuries for people so also not impossible.

[@time2play961]

@@Zen_Zay yeah I guess, maybe changing his CT to something else would be cool

[@damondgreen2239]

@@time2play961 Well at the time he only lost his hand so he could be removed from the fight turning the battle into a 1v1 him getting it back now wouldn’t really be a cop out

[@rilkura6232]

While me myself is hoping for him to have his hand healed, can you imagine the badassery if he continue to fight with the form of how we last seen him? That'll be sick and more interesting imo, and just more relatable

[@MrSamthefan]

There's a big thing you're missing here, which is that in all of these battles Todo had a *second* person to swap with. Straight hands, no assistance, fighting Todo becomes an entirely different playing field. Instead of going all out straight up, Nanami's main strat in a fight like this is simple. Run away, and wait for overtime. Boogie Woogie is a lot less disorienting the less targets Todo has to swap with. In fights like this he's completely reliant on finding a way to hax his way out of danger, or hax his opponent into danger. But if he is the only one he can swap with, that becomes a lot more straightforward.

[@BrokenRonin]

1. Todo can simply swap with Nanami himself, something that Mahito says is disorienting on its own 2. Todo can use his terrain and imbue objects with trace amounts of ce to switch with, which he does in Shibuya 3. Nanami is slower than Todo, so running isn't viable whatsoever. 4. Even if Boogie Woogie isn't viable, Todo's speed scaling is significantly better than Nanami's

[@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989]

Todo's only two ways to use boogie woogie in a 1v1 are "throw CE charged rock" & "swap with opponent". The first is mad predictable & the second would just make them stand back to back instead of face to face if they were previously. Most use Todo's getting out of his cursed technique would probably be as a counter to Nanami's "collapse" extension.

[@yuyevon1698]

@@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 This is not the only use of boogie woogie the fuck you talking about he can switch with anything he imbues with his CE it has limitless potential. This only shows how narrow your creativity is lmao

[@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989]

@@yuyevon1698 What is he imbuing with CE besides the rocks I already mentioned? If you're gonna insult me out of nowhere, you could at least explain yourself.

[@meat55]

@@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 mahito said it was disorienting even if you know it's coming. why are you ignoring that LMAO

[@CJ-SA]

When it said "but Mahito was fastest", it meant he was the fastest with opening his domain, not in physical speed. Doesn't significantly change the scaling, but just thought I'd mention it

[@neroisntdead3681]

You think Boogie Woogie can be used to escape Domain Expansion? Doesnt matter now but it wouldve been cool for some kind of friendly fire situation.

[@chileee5664]

@@neroisntdead3681 i imagine maybe before the space is fully closed.

[@jacobmichalski196]

@@neroisntdead3681 Don't think so, I feel like the forming of the barrier would stop teleportation

[@kakashihatake6176]

@@neroisntdead3681 l think so, this is why mahito was afraid of trying to do a domain expansion on todo by separating him from yuji

[@sirlordhobo1061]

@@jacobmichalski196 a domain expansion doesn't restrict cursed techniques though

[@joshuaoshiafi7951]

it’s a durability feat for nanami to even just survive an attack from jogo after a whole ass fight with dagon

[@Chowmeinn]

So did maki?

[@prabhatdeshmukh9592]

​​@@Chowmeinn Maki had heavenly restriction and was then taken to Shoko, Nanami is a normal guy and wasn't given any treatment but was still walking around killing Transfigured humans

[@Chowmeinn]

@@prabhatdeshmukh9592 she still survived. And it was a pre-awakened maki. Their durability is somewhat relative. No need to wank off nanami he’s not that guy. Comparing something to someone who is weaker than nanami isn’t a good look🤣

[@prabhatdeshmukh9592]

@@Chowmeinn "Wanking" Nanami, I'm stating facts here buddy, Maki wasn't affected by Death Swarm only Jogo's flames, and yeah she was than weaker than Nanami, why are you comparing her to him then? Point is what Nanami did was a definitive feat of durability, no need to bring in Maki and distort the argument.

[@TKMMA_]

Every take I’ve seen you make is a W

[@abhinandannandan3863]

Stop putting namami in these unfair matches, comeon let my man rest in peace

[@superfox8519]

Nanami vs working extra hours

[@GavJ216]

In a 1v1, while Todo’s swapping is disorienting and running away probably isn’t likely. All Nanamin would need to do is place on the counter offensive. Especially if he were able to go into Overtime, the time it takes for Todo to clap and strike should certain be something you can react to. Even if you can’t instantly react, you can anticipate and plan for countering like reinforcing your back, blindspots, etc. If Nanamin can land a single counter, or block, he could in theory activate Ratio and immediately disable whatever part of Todo it connects with. I don’t think it can be called so close. But a great analysis still!

[@sirlordhobo1061]

NAHH, considering how anyone can imbue cursed energy into objects, Todo can imbue cursed energy into debris and break it and send it flying everywhere which in no reality, nanami can react to. He can also just teleport nanami's weapon away so... yeah

[@prabhatdeshmukh9592]

@@sirlordhobo1061 If Todo is ALWAYS doing the same thing don't you think Nanami will see that and exploit that? Nanami also can imbue other objects with CE to confuse Todo and use the environment against him, and if Todo's methods get repetitive Nanami will exploit that and can get close enough to land ratio hits.

[@robertanderson7610]

@@sirlordhobo1061 he cannot teleport his weapon away. todo would have to imbued his ce into it but he can’t bc nanami already has his ce in it

[@sirlordhobo1061]

@@robertanderson7610 Todo can teleport ANYTHING with CE in it, it doesn't has to be his. Or else how would he have teleported Hanami or the playful cloud when he didn't even touch it?

[@animationdude9]

@@sirlordhobo1061 good point

[@muhammadshams3326]

Love the editing on Todos scaling

[@thebannanaworkshopbannana9058]

This video treats yuji weirdly. It’s stated over and over and over again in shibuya that yuji has improved ce control, aswell as getting stronger after eating fingers, we also know that yujis BF buffs post GW stay because todo literally mentions that’s how that works. It also kinda fails to mention that yuji and mahito are effectively crippled and are running below 40% of their usual strengths before they hit 120%

[@jocoolshow]

There’s also Yuji with poor to below average combat applicable CE control in Goodwill with less fingers being stated to be physically stronger than Todo…by Todo Then Yuji gets coached on CE Manipulation by Todo, improves in skill, uses Black Flash, understands CE more to the point where the difference in understanding is like heaven and earth, trains after goodwill, goes through the death painting arc, grows in his mindset and being able to kill ESO (with mindset being important for growth in JJK), uses BF again and understands CE even deeper, eats another finger and gets buffed, and then finally after all of this, in Shibuya he’s considered to be a rival to Nanami in terms of physical ability, which means not counting 7:3 Ratio or Overtime Granted by the end of Shibuya Yuji is way stronger when Todo shows up, but Todo downscales from Yuji and Mahito who’ve been beating each other to death rather than scaling to their full power

[@thebannanaworkshopbannana9058]

@@jocoolshow the one thing I have to say, is that todo does attack and dodge somewhat relative to yuji vs 80% when all three have awakened, so ronins speed argument of todo faster than nanami is probably viable

[@user-bn2tj7dx6o]

You just pulled those numbers but ignore the fact they all get stronger and surpass 100% right away. Todo would slam Shibuya arc Yuji anyways.

[@slayerokcbmx9679]

That and Todo literally stating hes falling behind itadori

[@odd-eyes6363]

I don't think Boogie Woogie would be such a game changer. It is clearly a technique that's most effective when used alongside someone else. Todo simply would not have the opportunity to clap his hands multiple times in a 1v1 or have the same amount of suitable objects to use alongside his cursed technique he did in Shibuya or when fighting Hanami. I am not saying Todo doesn't win, but he is certainly not going to remain untouchable in a 1v1 against Nanami. Especially when his cursed technique is dependent on a physical action mid-combat against a close-ranged fighter

[@farsous10]

A clap takes a second to do, and considering that todo is a better hand to hand fighter than nanami, I’m sure he wouldn’t find it too difficult to clap during the fight. We’ve seen a short fight with todo vs mahito before yuji stepped in and todo was able to his ct no problem before mahito was slowly adapting to it

[@jocoolshow]

Nanami should be far stronger physically as Shibuya Yuji is physically compared to Base Nanami but even counting 7:3 damage amps or Overtime, while Todo was physically inferior to Goodwill Yuji *before* Todo taught Yuji how to manipulate CE properly and before Yuji got amped by like, 6 Black Flashes between Goodwill and Death Painting Arc, and another finger eaten in the death painting arc Todo did get stronger between Goodwill and Shibuya, though Todo downscales to a moderately injured and weakened Yuji and Mahito rather than fully scaling. It’s to the point where Yuji can physically react to and move to Mahito when he uses his Domain before Todo can even use a simple Domain. So there’s a big physical difference between Nanami and Todo Only issue is Boogie Woogie can make up for speed gaps as it’s disorientating, and he can swap away Nanami’s weapon. But Nanami doesn’t need his weapon, so if Nanami lands a counter or two, Todo might be done, but if Todo doesn’t get hit he can wear Nanami down I kinda favor Nanami though

[@LoudYapper]

I think it compares Overtime Nanami and Yuji.

[@TreeGGwi]

The thing is I think Todo says Yuji is superior to him without ce reinforcement

[@LoudYapper]

@@TreeGGwi yeah, it's base stats without reinforcement that Yuji is superior to him, but by the time of Shibuya he is definitely above Todo with reinforcement and base

[@TreeGGwi]

@@LoudYapperyeah

[@user-bn2tj7dx6o]

No. Todo in the fight actually scales realtive to Yuji in vs an awakened Mahito and he actually one shots a 80% clone of awakened Mahito, literally the only time Yuji outspeeds Todo is because Todo had to waste time casting a simple domain while Yuji never had to stop because Mahito was never going to attack him in the first place, so 120% Todo is relative to a massively buffed 120% Yuji in Shibuya. He would grab Nanami and smack his face with black flash, Stop coping.

[@SeseOB2003]

I feel bad for nanami in these versus battles, he hasn’t won a single one yet… Edit (22 October): it’s been exactly a year since this matchup video was made.

[@davidc.]

Winning or not this guy is just really bad at scaling. Don't take him too seriously. It's like trusting death battle

[@dallasdean4115]

​@@davidc.He's literally not bad at scaling.

[@rif5556]

​@@dallasdean4115 he's literally bad at scaling.

[@MaxJakkz]

So far he seems pretty bad at scaling people. Shows pretty heavy bias in several videos

[@t_raywen8750]

I think alone the fact that nanami survived the sure hit attacks of dagon, mahitos cursed technique and also jogo’s fire blast speaks volumes about his durability. But ofc, in all of this incidenta he wouldn’t have survived if the fights would have gone much longer It also gets much more obvious that todo is gonna win this fight if you take in consideration that he for example can just swap nanami’s weapon out with himself or something else. Even in overtime mode, nanami would still loose his attack range without his weapon

[@4xJojo]

You do realise it’s all just CE reinforcement stacked on top of raw durability? Because he wouldn’t have been able to resist Mahito’s CT the first time without using CE reinforcement on his soul. But otherwise it’s mainly the reinforcement that helps guard against most damage. Nanami’s durability/endurance however is different tho

[@diamonshade7484]

​@@4xJojoThat was subconscious

[@Delusional_Man]

nanami's weapon isn't a curse tool, it became one after he died when ino used it, for that to work, todo would have to grab his weapon to imbue cursed energy, and if he touched it, nanami could use his ct

[@richsunuwar]

Bro there is such an obvious durability feat shown by Nanami. He survied the onslaught of Dagon's sure-hit-attack for a straight Minute and came back still able to fight with no showing of weakening

[@lawrence3654]

faxxx Nanami belongs in higher tier when it comes to durability in the whole verse

[@eddysantoso1138]

True, while Todo on the other hand had no durability feats at all.

[@AizenSosukesama]

@@eddysantoso1138 he could take a idle transfiguration hit from mahito

[@i.f.a2132]

more like almost died to it@@AizenSosukesama

[@JerryLeeHowell2]

I would NEVER want to see this fight in a MILLION YEARS and I'm INSULTED you even made this (great) video!!!

[@ElementalKage]

I love your videos so much! Keep up the good work!

[@BrokenRonin]

Glad you enjoy the videos! Hope to keep putting out content you like

[@ElementalKage]

@@BrokenRonin Don’t worry your content is always great!

[@maltem7973]

My guy it didnt go unnoticed that you put electric fountain ost in your vid! Dope af i appreciate the tekken love 😋

[@Bread-lh4fl]

5:09 What debate? He literally just straight up says "Straight Striking Power"

[@greatteacherdaffy6219]

Literally, bro is just coping 😭

[@BrokenRonin]

Striking power can mean multiple things tho. Is it striking power with ratio technique or without it?

[@Bread-lh4fl]

@@BrokenRonin It can't mean with ratio technique, because he includes "straight" meaning its specifically striking AP. His technique also just allows him to get a critical strike when its used, not something that amps his striking power.

[@pitchblack5422]

its the fact he also assumes that nanami is using ratio in his "straight striking power" but doesnt assuming Yuji isnt using his cursed energy attacks in the same regard

[@BrokenRonin]

@@pitchblack5422 I do assume that Yuji uses CE what are you talking about? When do I say otherwise?

[@tanosantos1993]

It just makes me so sad because Nanami Just oozes badassery and I love his style and his attitude. I just wish when it came down to the nitty gritty details he was stronger

[@hazza_smazza2674]

Alright, with how Boogie Woogie works, couldn’t Todo technically switch places with Nanamis blade, as it would have pretty sufficient cursed energy… right?

[@deityofthemask599]

God I love the boogie woogie transitions. Amazing video my dude

[@tanwin137]

Poor Nanami, hes relatively fighting with Yuji in one of the first arcs and then Kinda just does nothing special.

[@wingedbow3384]

You a manga reader?

[@non-standard2473]

fuck outta here tanwin😂😂😂

[@tanwin137]

@XDXBR13 I mean if u look at the panel and scenes it’s kinda obvious they’re not far off each other they don’t have to be equal

[@tanwin137]

@@wingedbow3384 mhm

[@maxanderson3733]

For real. It sucks having to just look back on everything and realize Nanami is . . . . kind of a joke when you stack up THIS much evidence

[@bushamo]

The clapping simulates what it’s like to fight Todo also the sound of his cheeks clapping because of how th-

[@BoogieWoogie...]

Well it had been stated by megumi that in the night raid on tokyo, he took down 6 first grades, and 1 special grade, and he only used his cursed technique on the special grade

[@Not_black_imposter]

a good neck shot by Nanami is a insane win But in the other hand it’s todo the Toji of jujitsu students

[@corneliuscrip]

bro the clapping sound effect was so annoying brio

[@bolt2134]

I strongly disagree, Toudou may give Nanami a tough time since he's very strong on hand to hand but there's no scenario in where Toudou wins because in a 1 vs 1 his technique is basically useless, the only thing he can switch places with will be Nanami's weapon but that's just it, and a single hit from Nanami's technique will deal horrendous damage to Toudou so in a hand to hand fight Nanami holds a HUGE advantage over anybody even if his opponent is on the same level as him.

[@mikedanielespeja6128]

bro, Todo's still the physical superior of the two, even if we're taking away the fact that Boogie Woogie catches people off guard, Todo could still very well dodge Nanami's attacks fairly easily

[@devv197]

Idk man. I see the fight going with Todo switching Nanami’s weapon with a bird or something or even himself. At that point in close range 1 v 1 Todo wins.

[@bolt2134]

@@devv197 Remember that he his target needs to have a minimum amount of cursed energy for him to be able to switch places, in the fight with Mahito he had to infuse cursed energy on a rock to be able to switch places with it, that's why his technique is almost useless in 1vs1

[@devv197]

@@bolt2134 I don’t see how that makes his ability useless in a 1v1 (against Nanami). Nanami relies on his cursed weapon to deal most of his damage. If Todo can find a rock or something to infuse cursed energy into, he could easily switch its place with Nanami’s weapon. If he can’t he could just switch places with Nanami’s weapon. It would probably lead to an awkward interaction but Todo would be successful on separating him from his weapon. At that point it’s straight hands and we know Todo has the advantage.

[@bolt2134]

@@devv197 True but do you believe that he will be able to do the same move multiple times? It will be very predictable after 2 times for someone experienced like Nanami, that's what it makes Toudou's technique so dangerous in a 2vs1 because he can be so unpredictable.

[@LandonKlapwyk]

bro wake up, broken ronin just posted

[@justsomeguyanimations]

Never been a minute early, gad damn. Saved my evening

[@Nam3r_OW]

@2:38 "I

[@cringemeat9430]

Doesn’t todo say flat out in their goodwill battle before Hana no shows up that “he’s stronger than me despite his smaller build”

[@Jaafar_Alkhalifa]

4:55 is when I knew who you picked

[@GRmasterpiece]

Great video and well explained. I think the clapping transitions were a little too excessive throughout the video and became a little annoying, BUT I see what you were going for there.

[@shonenspiritbeast1563]

Could you not make the arguement that in a 1-on-1 fight Boogie Woogie is infinitely more easier to deal with since part of what made it so disorienting is that Todo had the option of either: 1) Switching with his opponent 2) Switching with his partner (being Yuji) 3) Switching his partner with his opponent and maybe, 4) Switching himself, his partner, or his opponent with a cursed tool. Without a partner, cursed tools, or anybody with any semblance of curse energy, then his only option would be to switch with his opponent, which is a lot more easier to deal with.

[@vermagupta5432]

Todo can use his terrain and imbue objects with trace amounts of ce to switch with, which he does in Shibuya

[@rilkura6232]

Perhaps, but I'll assume you watch Naruto franchise and know about Sasuke's amenotejikara. And if you do you should know how effective and creative technique like this will be right? Todo just have to adjust his fighting style, or maybe he won't even need to considering he pull similar fighting style against hanami during GW arc

[@khulmach9662]

@@vermagupta5432 Swapping with a rock that you can see coming is still easy to predict.

[@parthibsamanta4694]

He can swap himself with nanami's cursed tool🌚 or maybe his underwear

[@khulmach9662]

@@parthibsamanta4694 face appears in Nanami's hands

[@yebzy]

Your editing is getting so much better my man All the extra effects are so damn funny

[@WearyExile_]

I don't find the basis for downplaying Nanami's durability to be objective. If anything, this is the same person who survived multiple sure-kill attacks of 30% in Dagon's domain, survived a point blank fire attack from Jogo, and was able to continue living and even fighting, albeit, low tier transfigured humans, unlike Maki, who was not as badly injured in domain (i won't bring up Naobito, since he had 70% of Domain SK effect dedicated to him and was struck by a much powerful attack from Jogo). Anywho, I REALLY doubt that Nanami, a veteran in CE manipulation, would be dealt with by a few off guard attacks of the man, who was relative in his AP to a Goodwill Event Yuji and was not able to put Fushiguro down in two hits. Also, i believe that you are forgetting, that Todo was that effective against Mahito and Hanami not only due to his CT, but because of Yuji as well. One on one, it'll be much harder for him to both inflict significant damage and avoid Ratio technique attacks from someone, who is adjusting to much less disorienting Boogie Woogie, since there is less room for variaty and switching. (Yeah, i know that Todo can imbue objects with CE, yeah, that also takes time and worked so far, only on a Polymorphic Isomer transfigured human, not on an actually competent fighter). In conclusion, i believe that this fight is much closer than BR thinks, and Todo should be really worried about getting attacked by Ratio technique, because one/two clean hits - he is a goner. P.S. I am both Nanami and Todo fanboy, and while Todo is narratively more impressive and has unquestionably more raw talent and potential, since he is an intelligent 18 year old 1 grade sorcerer, fighting a 28 year old sorcerer, has SD, unlike Nanami (which is a BS on Nanami's part), who should have learned that instead of going on his hiatus, all grade 1 sorcerers have something against domain: Kusakabe, Mei Mei, Todo, Zenins with FBE, Mechamaru, Miwa with NSS. Then again, Todo inherited SD from Yuki, he had her as a master, and Miwa inherited it from Kusakabe, and Kokichi was only using it in a tube. So yeah, Nanami simply did not have that good teacher, should have asked Gojo or something....

[@Hetsu..]

Nanami isnt weak at all, in fact his duribility is prob higher then that super grade one sorcereor

[@prabhatdeshmukh9592]

Hard agree with all your points, I also love both Nanami and Todo but sometimes people screw over Nanami for no reason.

[@diamonshade7484]

If Nanami didn't go on hiatus he would have been much stronger fr

[@Luxord-pd4uc]

The Clap Sounds was a Great idea

[@captainchaos5705]

I think a big thing that isnt talked about here is that Nanami isnt just stronger during overtime. He's actively weaker when Overtime isn't active. If we're not giving him overtime at all we need to buff his stats a good bit to compensate

[@meat55]

thank GOD you made this. great stuff

[@automemories3051]

Do you think you could make a video one day about what determines whether a sorcerer is capable of making a domain? because clearly, age nor experience plays a large factor in that if you think about Megumi or Higuruma.

[@Yazzieeee]

I think it’s straight up potential or prowess; or just situational since Higuruma doesn’t necessarily have a Cursed Technique but only a Domain (but he’s still very innately blessed). But yea a video on that would be nice.

[@nate7631]

There's a lot of factors such as barrier understanding and CT. But for the most part it's somewhat implied that a domain (specifically sure hits) is a sorcerers confidence of themselves and their ability on full display.

[@automemories3051]

@@nate7631 I know the requirements, I’m just specifically interested in why megumi was able to use a domain, but we don’t see someone like Todo be able to use a domain by the end of Season 1, you know?

[@AndrewManook]

@@automemories3051 Just bad writing

[@automemories3051]

@@AndrewManook that pretty wild to say that about our lord and savior Gege ngl👀

[@shashanksingh672]

that shot sound gave me headache made almost impossible to watch while relaxing

[@skeptikal1152]

I couldn’t finish the video because while the clapping bit was cute…. It got old SO fast. Lol

[@Discorded]

keep up the jjk content love these vids

[@smugumin3448]

Hopefully todo comes back in the series, even without his technique we know he can pretty easily take on curses of grade 1 so maybe he could return with a prosthetic arm-esque cursed tool to continue fighting, after all i think it goes against his character to just stay out of the fight after losing his technique

[@elan344]

its stated that he didn't lose his technique tho? maybe im buggin and it was a one-time thing but he did clap even after losing his hand

[@blankness8]

​@@elan344Idk if this helps, but he clapped his hand against Mahito's to activate his technique once. Then the second time he "clapped" his amputated arm against his own palm but it was just a bluff to distract Mahito (didn't work)

[@Tracker947]

He did lose his technique. Mahito's ability destroys the soul or some shit, so he can't use either of his hands for Boogie Woogie anymore. "My Boogie Woogie is already dead..."

[@Flamelance_Accendo]

I really like those clap transitions lmao

[@spider_dfj5723]

I although I feel like the victory would still go to Todo(which would make this comment stupid) I feel like we need to consider the fact that Todo, in both fights, had multiple people/objects to swap with. In the Hanami fight, Todo had himself, Hanami, Yuji, and Playful Cloud. Adding to the disorienting effects. While in the Mahito fight he had himself, Mahito, and Yuji. In this scenario he would only have Nanami to swap with. Decreasing the effects of his technique. I'd have to think about whether or not it would make a difference, but I feel like it would still increase Nanami's chances

[@aitorchul2262]

Todo could change with nanamis weapon and can put his curse energy in x objects so in general he can have alooot of things to change.

[@somaloll]

Nanami dog walking haruta were some of the hardest panels ive ever seen

[@ShaudL]

Why do people keep saying BW only works on him and his opponent when he actively showed that he can add his CE to any object to start using it in the BW mind game

[@prabhatdeshmukh9592]

That's similar to people saying if Todo can switch off Nanami's weapon he wins, Nanami can use Ratio with his bare fists.

[@Its-Ibby]

Yo Anime X just remembered that you had this channel Thanks for the what ifs. Ill tune in time to time

[@greedy_arts3807]

How did you hit EVERY SINGLE point that I was thinking? This is why I'm a subscriber keep it up bro

[@ItsShaz1]

Loved the video

[@BrokenRonin]

Happy to hear that!

[@colbychan9849]

Todo actually had the potential to utitlize his Curse Technique like Flying Rajin. Before or during fights he can scatter curse tools (cursed throwing knives) or even Cursed pebbles all around the battlefield and absolutely dominate with unlimited Boogie Woogie swaps. Basically be a Gorilla 4th hokage.

[@prp_loading]

Another banger😤

[@BrokenRonin]

You already know

[@Jay_SGE]

This is one of your best videos little man! Love the editing! The breakdown! Well done!

[@rubenalvarez6830]

Love your content bro!!

[@NonAryanDuck]

Thought you covered it pretty well in the short, but another video's always nice Edit: Scratch that, the short was about Hanami, I'm a clown 🤡

[@BrokenRonin]

All good man, hope you enjoyed both videos

[@req1629]

PRE W I LOVE YOU RONIN 🥵🥵

[@BrokenRonin]

Aye hope I get a post W as well. Thank you for the support

[@antichton1926]

Why do you scale Todo above Yuji’s physicals, when Todo himself said that Yuji was stronger when they had fought? This is far before Yuji had learned CE control, and BF.

[@plushydrown1368]

He said in terms of raw strength, tho not in terms of cursed imbued punches

[@BrokenRonin]

When Todo makes this comment is pretty explicit that he's talking about his "raw power" referring to his immense strength without CE. Todo's attacks imbued with CE would be above this. Even if Todo in Goodwill was weaker than Yuji, him being able to block attacks from Mahito would just demonstrate an increase in strength

[@antichton1926]

@@BrokenRonin Do we have any real reason to suggest that Todo has more CE than Yuji with his punches? Because I personally don’t see anything that would warrant that, besides Todo saying he didn’t have that much CE at the time.

[@khalronin6030]

I feel like Nanami's durability is being severely underestimated here He was able to endure Dagon's continuous sure hit attack for well over a minute, granted this was only 30% of the attack but it's still insanely impressive regardless. Then Nanami takes a direct and unguarded blast from Jogo and survives still being capable of dealing with transfigured humans that he encounters before being killed by Mahito, while at the same time Maki was rendered completely unconscious and near death while Naobito who took a hit while on-guard was straight up killed. Note Nanami takes that attack from Jogo after being dealt extensive damage at the hands of Dagon. I do not think Nanami wins the fight regardless, theoretically Todo could run around the battlefield imbuing his cursed energy all over the place and completely overwhelm Nanami with boogie woogie

[@lawrence3654]

it’s painfully underestimated, he’s one of the most durable characters in the verse.

[@keyanims1978]

​@@lawrence3654not even close lmfao i can name like 10 characters that are way more durable than him

[@AA-tz2bm]

Naobito was hit with multiple volcanoes

[@malachibrown6396]

the claps as transitions👌🏽😮‍💨

[@runi3747]

Love the analysis and explanations and they’re totally valid and probably objectively correct but in my mind there is no one and nothing stronger than nanami 🥰🥰🥰

[@MrSarcasticGaming]

I gotta agree, he's the definition of GRADE 1, but Todo borders on special with his boogie woogie. Nanami could hurt him pretty bad with a black flash or ratio(god forbid both) but he has to land that on an opponent who knows his technique. I love Nanami, but I gotta give it up for the one Who left all his boogie on the woogie and became handicappable

[@FakeFaked]

I think you are underestimating Nanami´s durability. He just tanked through 30% of Dagon´s Domain expansions attack power for minutes non-stop and left just fine, then barely survived Jogo, only being left unconcious momentarily and could continue to hunt Curses for a while till Mahito finished him off.

[@notam7460]

An unmentioned point of this fight would be todos ability to replace nanamis cursed tool like he did with playful cloud. With todo immediately disarming nanami it becomes a brawl that todos is more likely to win

[@ancloud8459]

For the next one, I’m kinda curious about the disaster cursed versus current fushiguro

[@jameith4904]

Unfortunately the disaster curses STOMP. Let's see why: - All of the disaster curses have extremely hax abilities as well as durability and strength + hand-to-hand that far exceed anything that Megumi could possibly reach - Hanami alone is enough to take care of even the current Megumi considering he couldn't even scratch her without Totality back in the Kyoto arc, although he has had a few amps since then. - Megumi could barely even react to Toji which is a good feat for him, but Toji still hit him anyway, and was using Playful Cloud. If Jogo was attacking him ranged wise, he would honestly kill Megumi on that note. - Mahito is also enough on his own to kill Megumi since he has one of the most haxed and versatile techniques in the series, considering he doesn't even need to touch Megumi to even attack him. Megumi does not know the shape of his soul or Mahito's, meaning his attacks have absolutely no effect. Even with shikigami. - Megumi would have died to Dagon if it wasn't for his own Domain limiting Dagon's. His domain is incomplete and isn't enough to kill the disaster curses. However, if Megumi releases Mahoraga, it's a much different story Megumi will end up dying to Mahoraga, but Mahoraga only needs a SCRATCH to kill each of the disaster curses with the Sword of Extermination. On top of this, even if they manage to dodge Mahoraga (which was able to react and counter someone like 15F Sukuna), they will end up making useless and pointless attacks that Mahoraga will only end up adapting to. Sure hits from a domain? Adapts, and counters. Barriers? Adapts, counters. Mahoraga will be able to survive the first Idle Transfiguration since Nanami subconsciously countered his attack, and adapts, and counters. Meteor? Dodged, adapts, counters. So essentially, Mahoraga>Disaster curses>Fushiguro

[@flamingthundergod19]

why are you so curious 🙃

[@plushydrown1368]

Bruh even Dagon alone takes him low diff

[@rilkura6232]

Megumi stomp, he was salty enough to pull mahoraga against a human my friend, imagine against stronger, disaster curses

[@plushydrown1368]

@@rilkura6232 Yup I mean Mahoraga does solo all the disaster curses so...... But Megumi without Mahoraga gets negative diffed

[@maddog_majima9553]

Know im late and all but when it comes to the speed part i feel its more of a narrative way of putting it. Like when war is proclaimed the first to raise thier banners was these guys or something like that. Todo was more defensive while yuji was attacking defensively whereas mahiyo was the aggressor all in all

[@Matt-hw9tg]

New BR dropped time to praise my god Todo

[@Tecco273]

Bruh, those claps gave me jump scares 😂

[@ryansawyers9977]

Br got sum against nanami, what's next nanami verse sendai colony gang🤣🤣🤣

[@liamli1807]

He did just do my man Ludwig like that 11:51 😂😂😂😂

[@imXenoid]

Bro why do you sound exactly like swagkage

[@plushydrown1368]

Lmao ikr

[@imXenoid]

@@plushydrown1368 it’s been bugging me for while, like this is swagkages burner lmao

[@Bosoye]

Great video. Especially with clapping when explaining Todou's abilities. But, Ronin we are tired of watching Nanamin lose 😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@ringobingo9573]

I would like to make a argument for nanami, and I think this is a difference, he is fighting mahito who can kill him to his knowledge with one hit and he completely matches and is on the winning side which is a much harder feat than Todo clapping his hands, which is why he totally outclasses Mahito in his fight. I still think Todo wins but I think it would be closer

[@funderburke43]

Mahito was also a new born with no fight IQ In his fight with nanami. Add some experience while having a freeza like growth rate even keeping up with/outpacing protagonists, and mahito wasn't the same curse. At this point most consider him above jogo (even if I'm questionable on the feats), and jogo completely blitzed Shibuya nanami

[@prabhatdeshmukh9592]

@@funderburke43 Man why do you mention Jogo blitzing Nanami like some extremely bad thing? Jogo would blitz Todo the same way too, and at the time Nanami came out of a domain having eaten a lethal sure hit, that is a stupid point to include.

[@israelcortes6714]

I think the other reason why nanami told her to hang back is also his personality …he is the adult it’s his responsibility…it’s something that stuck with me when he said that to yuji

[@martinozanchi5728]

I don't think that this battle i s as straight forward as you made it out to be because, since the boogie woogie technic can swap onliy objects with cursed energy, so in a battle 1 on 1 Todo would be able to swap only with Nanami which would make it predictable and easily counterable.

[@justsomeannoyingredpanda]

Ronin: hey can you edit this vid? Your good 👍 Editor: can I add Vtubers for no reason? Ronin: . . . Okayyyyyy?

[@nicholaskratzert]

Nanami holds the record for consecutive black flashes. If it came down to slug fest Todo would fail once he hit his limit.

[@Bootsgamesforever]

he doesnt hold the record, 4 was his record and no sorcerer can use black flash intentionally

[@Reo__clips]

Honestly, I feel like it may be a bit closer due to the fact that Nanami was initially the first person to ever perform 4 consecutive black flashes and we haven't seen him pushed to that point later on. Todo was able to learn how to perform it once. I really feel like if he was the first one to connect a strike without any hesitation he could very much likely win especially if he's the first one to land a hit. Purely off of the lethality of cutting power, if Todo messes up and loses a hand then it makes the fight pretty much impossible for him since as we saw his ability is restricted to hand clapping only even though he'll perform other claps on his body as a distraction. It's merely a question of if he can or not.

[@koaga224]

Let’s get Noritoshi(the young one) vs Choso

[@Jaafar_Alkhalifa]

Choso is the better version without the blood loss drawback. Kamo would get mid differ at best.

[@l3n515]

bro why every time the kokusen sound effect apper i just wait for the clash effect

[@wyattkinnaman54]

current todo would absolutely wipe nanami 😭

[@yukiminsan]

these two are the peak of ordinary potential

[@justjuanengineer]

dawg why you just keep shitting on my man nanami

[@BrokenRonin]

Gege told me that death wasn't enough for him

[@speedyspeed8178]

0:20 wow that avatar looks awsome, they should put him in a anime

[@prabhatdeshmukh9592]

Despite Nanami having considerable feats, it just isn't enough to compare it to Todo's. Narratively Todo is more important than Nanami since he is a sorcerer of the coming generation so he has MUCH better feats than Nanami. Todo does take the W but it definitely ain't close, but the problem is Nanami's feats are somewhat lacking And I still stand by my opinion of Todo's CT being useless in a 1v1 after a while, and it's not like Todo won't ever come to blows with Nanami in close range, then even if Todo uses BW they won't be far off and Nanami still hits Todo. Using the point that Todo can imbue other objects with CE to swap is useless since we can't factor in the environment, and Todo can realistically only use small stones/debris which won't always be around. And Nanami at times can just turn off his CE to prevent Boogie Woogie, Mahito Or Hanami couldn't do that since they are curses made of CE. Considering ONLY Todo's win condition is again useless, Nanami has many win cons as well. And Nanami has done a black flash too.

[@Jaguarsclaw]

You referenced chapter 130 as a way to show the speed relative between Todo, Yuji, and Mahito. That’s not a good example tbh. The only Person who was physically moving was Yuji. Mahitos domain expansion was a cursed technique activation which does not equate to his actually physical speed. Same with Todos activation of Simple Domain.

[@BrokenRonin]

No. I used chapter 30 to demonstrate that Todo is physically slower than Yuji, and by proxy Mahito. Mahito activates his domain faster than Yuji, Yuji runs towards Mahito and reacts to that domain faster than Todo can. Meaning Yuji is vaguely above Todo in terms of reaction speed. When showing relativity I simply listed examples of Todo reacting to Mahito, who is fast enough to react to and hit Yuji

[@reggielancaster3211]

Lets get kashimo vs yuta

[@Bradmagus]

I was gonna say you’re lowballing nanami heavy, but nah, you convinced me

[@sharkyboi3742]

I already knew Nanami is not gonna be close to Todo. But still I felt sad for Nanami 😢

[@emilvennerberg4927]

For the record. Newtons third law does not indicate that a character can handle as much damage as they can dish out. This is a common missconception that many powerscalers get wrong.

[@RedLogicYT]

Poor Nanami 😭

[@naisaiahsanchez9222]

I think it’s kinda up to todo be able to switch with allies but if it’s a one on one it shouldn’t be to hard for Nanami to get used to it

[@luisalberto-st8bn]

nanami vs finger bearer?

[@BrokenRonin]

Not a bad idea at all