BROMPTON T LINE FOLDING BIKE TOTAL COST AND FINAL WEIGHT

[@Air-ic279]

Thank you for you honesty by adding up all real costs. I have a P-Line and only added weight to it for security and convenience reasons. Final weight 10.7 kg or 23.6 lbs. It still makes me smile when I ride and look at it. Maybe a little hint for you: As your bike is now 7.03 kg just shave of these 31g and make it 6.999kg. That is much easier than to reach 15 lbs. Great video. Keep up the good work. 💪🏼👍🏼

[@linesided]

I salute you for commitment to Brompton at $10k. That's a labour of love!

[@pungutacu2bani.274]

I always say, if you can afford and make you more happy ,do it !! you have one life, you worked hard and you deserve all this upgrades for your bicycle to make it better and comfortable !! iv seen bikes for 15000 -20k in the shop and people will buy it because is quality !! I look forward for your next videos , your previous it help me a lot to improve or replace broken parts for my Brompton and saved some money on labouring and most important I learn myself how to do it !!

[@bromptonmad]

Incredible!!! That’s not a normal Brompton. Is like a Rolls Royce of two wheels. Excellent upgrading my friend. Enjoy it!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Thanks! 👍

[@tdgdbs1]

I wouldn't put on a brake lever that can possibly break; I value my life more than a few ounce weight saving.

[@xd1be9nb7v]

well it's a jewelry bike. it's for showing off.

[@Antiques-ud7yp]

Buts still a working cycle​@@xd1be9nb7v

[@zatoichi-e4r]

I rather use dahon mariner or launch d8 for its stability ... and structural integrity..

[@niksh8074]

I have a P Line, the weight now is 7.6kg. The only stock on my Pline are frame, rear triangle and wheelset, all others have been replaced / upgraded. I like the SMC carbon on you T Line. It looks awesome. Thanks for the great videos and keep it up.

[@memo6x9]

Hey, I also have a P-Line, can I follow you on social media? If yes, what is your name?

[@cooperunionmechanicsofmate893]

I would love to see how you got a P Line down to that weight!

[@StanStrong108]

We should name this bike BF T-LINE, and BF does not stand for Brompton Family, but BEST F@% T-LINE : ) Such a beautiful job overall. I really enjoy watching the evolution of this build!

[@NerdsWorldNYC]

You have to be the one and only bicyclest that wears his helmet,a bit to the side. Go on with your B-Boy styling💥 Thanks for the breakdown, than has to be your baby of the bunch with these upgrades.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I must have an uneven head! No matter what I do it ends up crooked lol!

[@lloydy187]

The strength of a titanium frame, the weight of a road bike, with the ability to fold and take wherever, Amazing! I'm seriously considering a folding bike, love what you have done with the upgrades.

[@davidhunternyc1]

This video is super informative! Learning so much. Thank you.

[@fumeokid]

Looks great! I’m following in your footsteps..almost! And incredibly you did it yourself and filmed it so we could do it ourselves too! A big big thank you! 🎉

[@KennethWuAU]

I recently got my H&H tensioner & derailleur combo for my C-Line superlight. I agree with you in your previous video that the tension on the H&H tensioners is relatively weak. This was causing chain slaps and loss of tension when backpedalling. To solve this, I took the tensioner apart and gave it one full wind before putting it back together. This gave it additional tension, and it is now a lot stronger. My chain slap and tension issues are gone.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Thanks for the input. That makes sense with the winding. I may try that in the future.

[@harcoremonkey]

Honestly, I was expecting something around 5kg, considering the stock T line is already about 7.5 kg, but I don't know anything about ultralight setups. What is undeniably true is the beauty of your bike!

[@ARlELATOM]

That bike is absolutely incredible. I can’t imagine what it must feel like. Congratulations on an awesome build 👌 and thanks for sharing.

[@Art-What..]

BFT..thanks for setting a benchmark. Nice touch adding cost factor's for people wanting to customize their own bike. It's okay to splurge on something you like and enjoy. Now take it apart and paint it a different color,dang😎

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I would like to have the titanium anodized to a blue color lol. Paint would be okay, but add weight.

[@Art-What..]

@@BromptonFamilyTime how's about the bare metal look with a clear coat. Car's would see ya😎

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I would imagine in the future they will offer color options or decal decorations.

[@Antiques-ud7yp]

​@@BromptonFamilyTimebrompton will paint a bike a any colour for you for a extra price at there factory

[@angelcardona4027]

Great video! I learned so much from you and your video. I love seeing you and your family take part in riding, I recently brought the Capt 3 and was waiting for the T Line, but it was out of stock when I was looking to buy one. I hope Brompton looks at your videos and make upgrades and changes to next year's T-Line. Keep up the excellent contact; your wife is doing a great job behind the scene with the editing, and I look forward to future videos. Happy riding!

[@ARJWright]

Looks over at my steel 5spd… I need to put it on a diet 😂 Amazing all the mods (beyond the cost). Really cool

[@Ampersand00]

Sick build. And your kid is super-cute!

[@kapitan230761]

I have a CHPT 3 V4, still modding and weight is now 8.9 kg….

[@TheOption_C]

Amazing! I modified the heck out of mine but I also feel the same. At some point diminishing returns… I’m most interested in the carbon brake levers… fascinating upgrade.

[@ayclarke1880]

Yes, I agree with airic3882, as I appreciate the transparency of these upgrades.

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

In 2019 I bought a new flame painted, SuperlightM6LXBrompton here in Denmark, of course with Mudguards(!), as a "Rainy Dane". And it was delivered as Scandinavian Standard with a "long seat post" (Which can't go into my expensive, German B&W travel box, without being removed as a first!). Since then I have modified much, also several of the standard brake parts, saddle pin, the axle in front and security items into titanium and carbon parts (Brackets holding the original - titanium stays and the holders on the mudguards into carbon and aluminum (Actually "Heavy Metal" from the Factory, still on a former Top Superlight!)), for now 9,35 kilo, but with an ordered, lighter and Printed saddle, from the standard Superlight saddle and a little extra parts changed ( - standard handlebar), I expect to come below 9 kilo soon! Not so far above a T line + mudguards, and hardly worth the double pay I should think? It is still a "Horrible Bike" with the - heavy rolling, small wheels!! You are able to do what an ordinary bike does, but with much more effort, which is mostly felt during longer rides! It is a tool for special circumstances and for this it is brilliant, but as a "bike" it is a punishment! Finn. Denmark

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

My bike is presently down to 8,5 kilo and still with mudguards, as a "Rainy Dane". Not much above a T-line with gears from the Factory, and of course also with mudguards! As a Dane I never leave home without them! Finn. Denmark

[@jazzfan7491]

Great editing!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

👩🏻 Thank you so much!

[@subspaceanomaly]

I didn't weigh my bike, but it's a dahon which was their lightest model at one point, got it on ebay and bought some cheap used carbon crank arms, light seat post and saddle, but put drop handlebars on rotating clamps and shimano sora shifters modified a capreo cog set to fit the light back wheel and put a really big central crank wheel. It weighs around 10kg I think but rides like a full sized racing bike, and the cost was around $350 all in. Great for travelling and I can fit loads on the rack and handle bars. It's crazy how useful a lightweight folding bike is, I can't believe there isn't more in the way of good products on the market. Everything is either crazy expensive or pretty heavy. A new company needs to enter the market. But that Brompton looks great fun and I'm sure that weight saving feels great.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Nice I have owned a few Dahons as well. They are great bikes.

[@grahammcdonald]

Beautiful and good job, but that price is eye watering! Also I'd be worried about theft. Which would cause my eyes to water even more.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

It's pretty expensive for any type of bike. It is insured against theft.

[@franciscosantana899]

Wow! Thanks for putting this video together. We finally got the final weight and cost!

[@DLI-vb7fl]

Great job. For what it's worth, there are potentially marginal weight savings in the cabling (fishbone), tyres (Schwalbe One's are lighter AFAIR) and tyre inner tubes (Ridenow).

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Thanks for the info. I was actually wondering about all of the items you mentions lol. I try not to be a gram weenie but I can't help it sometimes.

[@DLI-vb7fl]

@@BromptonFamilyTime You're welcome. End of the day it's whatever that makes us happy - can't put a price on that :-)

[@kayasper6081]

Congratulations. It is an absolute jewel!

[@FELENATOR]

This is my dream. You are an inspiration.

[@hoalex8089]

Most cyclist talks about having an N+1 bike. Brompton owners will always have a B+1 bike. It's always ok to have another Brompton and modify it to your liking. Enjoy. The T-Line is on my wish list. And I'm glad Brompton did not make it into another overprice limited edition bike.

[@ballroomdru]

The air quality today is really bad. I can’t afford a T line….YET. It is in my splurge list for the future.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Hi Andrew. I'll eventually run into you! Summer is just starting but hopefully this air quality doesn't keep happening.

[@thebrommuters6220]

Thank god there are some loonatics like you who do those expensive builds that I don't have to do it 😁😁😁 It's a great bike and it is totally you. Actually it could need a bit more colour to match your quirkyness even better ☺️ 🤘🤘🤘 Cannot wait to see what excites you so much next that you want to have it on your precious bike! All the best Ben&Sarah

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Once you start it is hard to stop lol.

[@Onqio]

This channel really makes me want to buy a T line and modify it to be the perfect bike just like yourse. 😄

[@YMertens]

Dreambuild!

[@paulcheung9360]

$9600 is good man👍 I like Chris King headset although Chris King stuff is expensive 👏

[@alanwong5688]

This is the vid we've been waiting for 😂

[@rolfbartikowski1836]

What do you think of using a titanium seatpost on a t-line? Would it be less liable to slide down than the original t-line seatpost? Thank you!

[@alanwong5688]

@@rolfbartikowski1836 I use a carbon one for my T-line and it doesn't slip at all. If slipping is am issue you can use a new adjustable lever to tighten it more

[@nh64uk78]

I have fitted the H&H titanium easy stands and I have the original tyres fitted and I have NOT had the front hook issues that you have had - not sitting flat on the ground.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Thanks for sharing. I still have it but I haven't had time to figure out the problem.

[@petez4608]

That’s a work of art. Hoping to get a T line but might wimp out and go for the P line.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I would try both. I think you will notice a difference between the T and P (and may regret it depending on your riding style).

[@petez4608]

@@BromptonFamilyTime thank you! I will try both. Pretty sure I’ll be very impressed with the T.

[@jeremylim1076]

Hi, glad to see that you have installed the odd shape washer to the H&H suspension (time 4:58). 😊 . Big fan of yours . And enjoyed a lot watching your upgrades on the t line. I glad to say I’ve finally got my t line 2 weeks back. 😊. Really sad that I need to get rid of my p line . 😢

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Congratulations. Keep the P for a backup!

[@raymonde4272]

Wow, that final total was higher than id expected but it's your dream machine. Is there anything you would've done differently if there were parts that are available now but not a year ago?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

There are some parts that really didn't improve anything like the brakes or head set. I could have saved $1000 if I didn't change them. If I build another T line, I would skip these upgrades.

[@niksh8074]

Agreed that replacing the headset with Chis King is a waste. There are others that cost a fraction of CK, which reduces more weight. As for ee brake, there are some weight saving there and they look great. A Union Jack calliper weight a little less and cost only 1/3 of ee Brake, and they look great, too. Just my opinion.

[@bungee28]

@BromptonFamilyTime I am surprise to hear that the brake calipers didn't improve anything for you. Did you try to ride your SMC rims with stock calipers? Carbon rims are notoriously more slippery. I switched to THX4RIDE brake calipers and they worked a little too well. I found myself locking the wheels & skidding when braking hard.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

The brake pads that came with the Cane Creek Brakes work better than the standard SMC ones. THX4RIDE looks great. They make some nice looking stuff.

[@channgaikwong9070]

Hi been watching yur video n I'm jus curious why you choose the HH suspension instead of the lightworks Ultralight carbon suspension block. I'm deciding b/w the 2 for upgraded but heard spring suspension gives comfort but absorbs energy, what's yur view?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

The Lightworks one was not out. Maybe I will try it out in the future. The H&H one is working good so far and feels like the stock one.

[@stevenheng3336]

So far lightworks only released for C Line.. so far only saw 1 t line done it with modification... mine will be the 2nd one with lightworks.

[@billhemingway5558]

nice mods and i love the info. i have a p-line and i'm going to ad a rack for utility but i needed an idea for quality quick release pedals and ideas for saving weight. Thanks, love your channel. Im looking forward to spring and summer riding.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

For light weight quality pedals, I think the Tiparts Workshop makes the smoothest pedals. They have little studs on them to provide extra grip. MKS makes good pedals but can be slipper if you ride in the rain. Also, make check the sizes if you have big feet. The smaller pedals may not be good for you even though they may be lighter.

[@bIack0rchId]

I'm on the fence about the style of the T-line vs the standard bike. I like the original frame style better than the T-line, maybe in time it'll grow on me.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

They do look different. Shoko's steel purple bike actually gets the most compliments lol!

[@Stevegonzalez-sj6wf]

why you didn't go for the T-line 12 speed instead of the 4 speed.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

The 12 Speed just came out. My T Line 4 speed is two years old. I would probably choose a 12 speed if they were out at the same time. I like the new system.

[@curlcurllocal]

This would be totally sweet for apartment living. I don't love the thicker tubes of the titanium brompton versus the gorgeous original steel frame - but I do get it - Steel Brompton gets heavy walking around a supermarket for 30 minutes!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

The steel Bromptons with matching paint on the fork and rear triangle do make them look nice. I think my all steel berry brompton looks the best.

[@curlcurllocal]

@@BromptonFamilyTime never seen those pink ones in real life they look rad! I took my brompton on a trip to Italy and the tiny little handlebars were so good riding through little castley hilltop towns at 6am before all the tourists woke up

[@douglasmckinley-sr1507]

Why do you carry the Brompton around the supermarket rather than roll it? Or are you rolling it and the weight. Is noticeable while rolling it?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

It depends on the location. Our bikes are all lighter than normal Bromptons so we can carry them for short intervals.

[@princessleiathemaltese5571]

Insane!!! That’s more than some people spend on a car. 😂 Congratulations!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

That is true. You could buy a motorcycle too!

[@princessleiathemaltese5571]

What isn’t factored in is your sweat investment!

[@PaliAha808]

I watched this twice. Thank you. But I didn't get the size of the engine or what the horsepower is

[@SanFranciscoDiscovery]

I might have to travel to Singapore or Taiwan with my CHPT 3 V4 because I cannot find anyone in the USA that can modify my bike from a 4 speed to a 6 speed. In Singapore you have shops that just do mods. 大変ですね。

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

That is true. Even in NY it is impossible to find a shop that works on modifiying Bromptons. I love working on my Bromptons and having the tools to do all the repairs and maintenance.

[@stevenheng3336]

Carbon seatpost and carbon saddle will give you maybe 150g saving... darimo seatpost and gelu carbon saddle being the lightest at 38g

[@davidhunternyc1]

Stay awesome! Alright Alright.

[@bungee28]

Thanks for sharing. I've not done the math on my T Line total upgrade cost myself (almost afraid to do so) but I suspect I'm not too far off. The Chris King headset is heavier than stock but I was advised to do so as it has less play. I got that done when I set my bike to my LBS for heavy greasing to remove all the creaks. So far so good. Did you finally get your H&H Axle Hook and parking triangles sorted out? I recall a 'Part Fail' video you'd posted 5mths back. I'm curious how you work that out.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

The axle hook is somewhere. I haven't heard back from H&H which is disappointing. I will try to figure it out and see if I can get it to work somehow. It's pretty pricey to not work.

[@trprofissaochofer]

Ola boa noite como vai ? vocês

[@supersouthpawVA]

Thanks so much for all your great videos and ideas. I have a T line -- upgraded from a 2008 Brompton with P type handlebars -- and while I have not made many modifications in my T line, I did change a few things. I followed your advice about pedals, and purchased Ti Works removable pedals (both left and right). I also swapped out the stock saddle with a Selle Italia SLR Boost TM Superflow, which is pretty light and (for me) a lot more comfortable than the stock saddle. My only remaining issue is the handlebars. I have the flat bars, but would like to find some compatible bars that will allow me to ride with a bit more of an upright stance. As a temporary solution, I purchased a Richey flat bar (steel), cut it down to 500 mm, and added ergon GS-5s. I think my bike weighs in at about 19 pounds, which is a full 10 pounds lighter than my old Brompton!! Enjoy your Brompton and your family and keep making videos.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Have you tried the Spirgrips? They are more comfortable and I honestly don't use the regular grips anymore. (Please buy them from a dealer. I have heard of shipping problems when buying from their website unfortunately).

[@supersouthpawVA]

Thanks for the response, @@BromptonFamilyTime. I looked at them, and will perhaps try a pair.

[@supersouthpawVA]

I cannot find any for sale, @@BromptonFamilyTime Do you know the name of an authorized dealer in the US?)

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I bought them directly from their website but it took about a month to get. Just make sure you buy them on a credit card that you can "reverse the charges" if you don't get them. If you wait until Black Friday, they go on sale fyi.

[@supersouthpawVA]

Thanks again @@BromptonFamilyTime. They are sold out now, so I guess I will wait until there is a restock.

[@WilliamPhillippe]

Sweet chariot, sir!

[@EZ-dc8gc]

Can you tell me how the titanium bottom bracket feels on your other Brompton? I had a dura ace crank on my other Brompton and loved the feel. Now I have a T line and am wondering how to upgrade my crankset.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

The Tiparts BB feels nice and smooth with the Japanese steel bearings. I went with that setup since it is my commuter bike and I wanted something durable.

[@EZ-dc8gc]

Thank you very much for your response. Very helpful

[@zonzillamagnus5902]

Are the carbon wheels worth it in terms of weight and are you worried about them cracking?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I think they are worth it since most wheel sets are heavier. The added bonus is they look really nice. I have not experienced any problems with them. I am happy with the purchase so far.

[@zonzillamagnus5902]

@@BromptonFamilyTime Thanks!

[@rdnax92]

...the problem with the T-Line is that it is already quite "tuned" and more sportly/ freshly designed... I d rather do the great tuning on a C/ A-line where it really yields the most and makes the most difference... and change less on a T-Line (tuning is mostly prerpaid there!). Still your bike is unique and beautiful!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Modding an A/C/P is always fun. My berry color steel Brompton gets the most compliments lol.

[@leeandrewcn]

Thanks for the video! Been watching your videos for some time. I have a slightly modded birdy now but am thinking of getting a brompton for my wife. Would you recommend me going for a P line or a used C line and just modify it myself?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

If you don't have to carry it often, I would go for a C Line. The P really benefits those that need to carry the bike often like for commuting. If you wife is just riding occasionally, then the C will be fine (or even an A Line). Just make sure you get a nice color she likes!

[@SingaporeUntold]

What I feel is nuts is that heavy modified B in Singapore is normal. Nice job

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I have seen some great builds there on IG. I love seeing so many different ways to mod!

[@earlbee3196]

That is one super awesome, Bike, Thanks for sharing. 🧔🏻‍♂️🧒🏻👩🏻‍🦱 ❤❤❤

[@harrypressman2]

Hi Shu, I'm not sure if you have addressed this in another video, but, can the regular Brompton tool kit that fits into a steel frame, also fit into the new T-line? On your T-line in one of your videos, there seems to be a plug of some kind but I'm not sure what that is.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

No it does not fit into the T-Line. I sometimes keep two tubolito tubes inside there (wrapped in plastic to protect them).

[@bredemeijer9648]

CNC 0.5 mm off the frame if your weight is not near max.

[@nicekit]

will u be upgrading to 12 speed internal hub using the official rear wheel upgrade kit? :D

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

No. I will just buy another T-Line with 12 speeds in the future. I like my carbon wheels.

[@jamesb9303]

There is a way to shave a few more pounds ☺️☺️ sandblast the paint on the frame and just put two or one coats of clear coat.

[@billhemingway5558]

how often do you need to change tires on your brompton bike? and your thoughts on tires?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

There is no set time. It's a good idea to check to see your tread condition. I love the Continental Urban tires. They have been flat free for over a year on all my Bromptons.

[@jazzfan7491]

What's the weight before all the mods?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

17.5 LBS

[@Cycle_Zen]

A Brompton with that much drip deserves tyres filled with helium or hydrogen, regular air just ain’t doing it justice.

[@echostarx]

Thanks for the video! That’s shot in governors island right? I’m debating between the T line 12 speed and the P line 12 speed, do you really think the T line is worth the extra money? Is it more the ride quality, speed, or the weight when carrying it folded?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I have not seen the T or P Line in 12 speed configuration. The T Line 4 Speed is much lighter, better frame materials and easier to maintance in my opinion. Is it worth the extra amount? Yes it is. They feel like different bikes in every way.

[@DutchAce]

9000 for a bike insane , but if you have enough why not the bike is for a life time

[@franciscosantana899]

I am curious as to what would the additional parts to get your T Line to under 15 Lbs?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I would need to get lighter a wheel set, schwalbe one tires, lighter brakes like the Ciamillo, lighter crankset like the THMs and then I should be under 15 lbs.

[@burkhard6238]

Hello shu, you have installed the Titanium Easy Stand V2 from H&H. What is the advantage? The original always makes some kind of noise when I open the frame. In my opinion it is play in the spring mechanism. Does this no longer work with the new one? Regards Burkhard

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I am not sure what the difference is between the V1 and V2. I am happy on how they work. I never used the original ez wheels for rolling so these look better imo.

[@pootlingalong8928]

Where do you put your shopping, etc - no bags or panniers? Also, no mudguards - won’t you get sprayed with road filth in the rain?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

This is my weekend bike so I don't go shopping for things with it. I have a removable mudguard for the rear when it rains. It works great while keeping the nice clean look.

[@sandydennylives1392]

It may be expensive, but a pro CF bike is only 200g lighter and 5-7K more expensive and will crack in a crash or accident. Brompton lost my upgrade interest due to the baby sized 50 c/ring on the T line and my 'experience' of their external gears on my 2, but now single speed, C line.

[@gaylinlack726]

I wouldn’t upgrade a $10000 bike with brake levers that are likely to snap if I have to brake in an emergency situation. Nevertheless an interesting video. Thanks.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

They have been solid so far, but I am skeptical since they are made from layers of carbon fiber. Only time will tell. It's a good thing there are two brakes!

[@oo7jbond]

Love your videos, your passion for your brompton bikes is contagious, but if I may ask your honest opinion, is it really worth spending 10,000 dollars for a bike?, let me know your thought process, thank you and God bless your channe;.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I think the T Line is better than the P or other models. Does it need to be modified? No. In stock form it is a great bike as is and does not need to be changed. I modify everything not just bikes so I know I am not normal.

[@oo7jbond]

Thank you for your reply, appreciate it. :) still wandering if I will sell my T line or not, I can buy a Vespa promavera with plenty of change or buy a Vespa plus p line with the money I spend for my t line…. Hehe

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Nothing wrong with that. I think the T Line is a great buy but only if you are going to use it. The P line is just as capable for most situations and a Vespa is fun too.

[@mlee6050]

I'm checking this as looking at about 7kg before mudguards for a 20" wheel folding bike, be maugra MT5 brakes, so know £2900 max it seems

[@kelvinchong6945]

in singapore we seen 5.9 kg

[@SingaporeUntold]

Sg def has the craziest B community. There’s a group called weight weenie that is all lightweight Bromptons. Only some are titanium B. The sticker badges run from 8.x to 4.x. Yes sub 5kg! 😅

[@stevenheng3336]

Lightest in sg is now 5.56kg

[@v2blaster228]

Rationality probably isn't the primary focus with this extent of upgrading, but I'm wondering why go for weight saving brakes that could just snap off? That sounds pretty hazardous in an emergency braking situation

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I have had no problems with the brake levers. A fellow subscriber mentioned they had one snap. It's a good thing there are two brakes!

[@tristangeoffroy9286]

Hello, does it worth buy a T model then changing/upgrading all parts rather than get a C line then changing part until you reach the 7kg?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

The T and C are totally different bikes. I would not recommend modifying a C line more than the basic upgrades. It will not be as light as the T Line. The T Line is a modern bike that has better components and a better design than the steel frame (which is why it is a lot more expensive). It does not need to be upgraded at all so you can upgrade it over time when parts wear out (or use OEM parts).

[@tristangeoffroy9286]

@@BromptonFamilyTime thank you for answer. So if we can afford it we should make this choice ;-). I’ll consider.

[@fatbiker98]

Hi. Great video and awesome upgrades! I wanted to ask what you placed in place of the eezy wheels? Are those things that stabilize the bike when folded? Also I saw you removed the fenders. Does fender removal affect the folding of the T line? Do you have to buy anything else to keep the fold tight if the fenders are removed? Thanks!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I am using titanium stands. I never roll my bike so I wanted something that prevented my bike from rolling when folded on the train. Removing the fender on any Brompton makes it lean alittle so you have to make sure your leaning it towards a wall so it doesn't tip over. H&H make a hook that was suppose to solve this lean problem, but it did not work on my Brompton (I wasted $40 buying it).

[@fatbiker98]

Ok thanks for the info! Do you have a link for those titanium stands? 😊

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

www.fantastic4toys.com/products/h-h-titanium-easy-stand-v2-for-brompton-bicycle?_pos=1&_psq=stand&_ss=e&_v=1.0

[@Gohjunyi88]

i am 170cm, should i get S or M bar

[@billhemingway5558]

Thanks!

[@Funkteon]

This bike costs $36,000 USD in Australia...

[@kevinseversonandhisvizslas8287]

Are four gears enough?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

For the city It's perfect for me. If you are younger and ride longer I would get the 12 speed.

[@eugeneuu3582]

Being careful with breaks.. tells you that YOU HAVE TO FIND A RELIABLE SOLUTION FOR STOPPING!!!!

[@stephenschuit7880]

Each to his/her own. But $9,000 for a Brompton?! I'd rather have 3-nice Bromptons. I am not clear why so many Brompton riders make such an expensive fuss about 5-6 pounds. Heck, it's not heavy.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Three nice P lines sound nice too. The T Line is not just lighter, but more responsive with the new gearing system.

[@tristangeoffroy9286]

@@BromptonFamilyTime but if you change all the heat system, would you regain responsivity?

[@thaisonhorn]

oh god thats twice the price of my brand new motorcycle, wow 😮

[@normalf977]

Wow

[@predpalina]

What makes it light will be my wallet!!!

[@ms.carlettawilson1522]

The most I will spend on a trike is $5000 with all the gear👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@bebopkirby]

l keep thinking about a movie l never saw, but heard about, l think it was called ‘Crazy Rich Asians’.

[@hubsessed]

How tall are you? I'm trying to decide on a low or mid rise bar for a T-line ;)

[@hugebara11-vw4xr]

he looks around 5 8

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

5 feet 5 inches.

[@ejayzhao1878]

Wa ultimate light & cool

[@billhemingway5558]

do you wax your chains?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Yes, wax is great for my T-Line and Swytch bike. It's nice having a clean chain. The superlight (my commuter bike) is also waxed but I may switch back to oil. Wax comes off and gets rusty during the winter with all of the salt they lay on the roads.

[@billhemingway5558]

good to know but i wonder if a liquid wax could be used after a wet ride? I'm going to try waxing.@@BromptonFamilyTime

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

After a wet ride, you can relube it with liquid wax, but once salt gets on the chain, the wax doesn't help. I replace my chain once I know the salt is no longer on the road. It looks really rusty at the end of the winter.

[@nebulaaah]

Mugger's dream, sadly.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I have heard in London they have this problem since Bromptons are known as expensive bike.

[@ductrung3993]

I'm happy for you that everything finally comes to fruition, but using a "light weight" carbon brake levers just does not make sense to me. Spending extra $$$ on parts that could compromise your safety. And it's puzzling why Brampton would go with an easily worn out Carbon chain ring as well. Hope you will have fun and enjoy the bike, but not at the cost of

[@Mustafa-ri7gz]

There is a lot of belly noise, is it possible to get rid of it?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Check out Brompton's KZbin channel. They just released a video about fixing noise problems on the T Line. This may help. I find all bikes will make noise and it you need to constantly do maintenance.

[@Mustafa-ri7gz]

@@BromptonFamilyTime 0:04 - 0:08 this is the sound i mean

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I have bad ears so you are probably hearing something I can't. I can only hear the rear hub noise. Is that what your talking about? if so, it is build into the wheel to be loud. I love that sound.

[@Mustafa-ri7gz]

@@BromptonFamilyTime yes, is there a way to reduce this volume? I do not like :/

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

@@Mustafa-ri7gz 👩🏻Hi. It is sound from hub so we can not get rid of the sound.

[@juneevergara7947]

spare no expense

[@albertstufkens4844]

Lightweight bike for heavy price

[@qualm43]

You have to admit this is objectively insane LOL. This is the price of like 3-4 used Vespas.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I have to admit Vespas are cool. I like the Grom and Ruckus too.

[@denielnoya]

damn is so expensive