[BROMPTON T-LINE UPGRADE] H&H CHAIN TENSIONER

Welcome back to another BFT video!! This time we made a video on Brompton T/P line H&H Chain Tensioner. Please watch and see how the weight difference between stock one and new one, and some tips for how to install it.
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[@bok3nt]

Shu's face when his assistant arrived...PRICELESS! 😆

[@SmallOutdoors]

looks really good!! 息子くんが真似していろんなところ回そうとしててかわいい！！

[@StanfordLeeStrong]

Love it. Soon your Brompton will be so light it will float in the air😂

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Compared to my other Bromptons it's pretty light. It would be hard for me to buy another steel one unless it was electric.

[@SingaporeUntold]

Cool assistant 👍🏻

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🤣 Every time I work on the bike he knows!

[@phillblake6829]

Your bikes always look cleaner than they come out the box

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

It's actually pretty scratched up. The titanium frame has many scuff marks lol.

[@danhoang6335]

So...ladies and gentlemen, presenting the first Brompton Air!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

LOL

[@tito2928]

Tan Tan is growing fast. Love that he is part of the Titanium project!!!!. Oh my gosh that happened to me the first day I got the bike. I had no tools so I was going crazy looking for a bike store to get the chain back on. I hope the new part does work !!!!! Have a great weekend!!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Thanks Victor! yes please carry tools lol. I learned the hard way myself.

[@boredmechanic2019]

Got in first to comment .. great topic and vid 🤘 🇨🇦

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Thanks. It's fun working on this bike.

[@WilliamPhillippe]

Kudos on some terrific content. That is one clean chain. Impressive!!🤩

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Thank you very much! This chain is better than the 8 speed chain so far. It costs more so hopefully I won't need to change it as often.

[@tup2012]

Your assistant is very cute! :)

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Hopefully he will take over one day lol!

[@tup2012]

@@BromptonFamilyTime 👍

[@josephd9079]

😉 go praxis crankset next !!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I am eventually going to change everything lol. I haven't decided on the crankset yet. The Praxis look nice so they are being considered.

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

As an elderly owner of the former, flamepainted topmodel, a 2019 LightweightH6LXBrompton (I honestly don't know if my handlebar is the new M type, but it looks the part of being an "original Brompton" folding bike!), I have tried to change my tensioner to several metal ones, some of which didn't actually fit my bike! Latest an expensive and very, very simple looking, black version and with two holes to be selected for the one and fixed axle! None of which actually fit my bike!!! So I went back to my former, golden metal one, which fits! I would prefer that the producers named the year to and from which they may fit my bike. I don't like the scraping metal sound of the tensioner wheels against the chain, so I changed back to the original plastic wheels, for much less noise when riding! I have a set of titanium bolts, nuts and parts for my brakes, but the two long fixing bolts didn't fit, so I found a very kind dealer in China (comfortable cycling store), willing to send me two, single bolts, which from model year - 2018 will fit my bike. The damned English haven't got any record of a continuous production, giving any kind of sense! My first and only English car was a 1966 production disaster! A BMC Mini on which - nothing really functioned. The paint peeling off round the hinges and water, also coming in from the corners of the front screen, to name a very, very few!!) 🤔Finn. Denmark

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

The tensioner wheel need to be inside the two shift chain-wheel changer on the frame, and none of the positions were right!!

[@ksng4276]

Hi all, I have chains dropping off too. It's usually when I am peddling hard suddenly. Dropped occurred at rear cog, it happened on stock tensioner, cogs, on both my P Line and 3 speed superlight (previously 2 speed) on 11 speed chains.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

That's the worst time for a chain to drop too. I'll let you know if I have problems.

[@huangteng]

Hi, really like your Brompton mod videos. I've quite a bit of mods on my P line, but one thing that I figured should remain stock is the tensioner. The tensioner can be very close to the ground and can easily take hits. The stock one withstands hits pretty well. I'm not to sure about a full aluminum one.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

That is true. You have to be more careful especially if you ride near the curbs here.

[@RvanLaar66]

It would be interesting to learn how the tensioner (especially the spring) has hold up after a good year of use? I don't understand why H&H doesn't provide a fitting bolt for the tensioner wheel as the stock Brompton bolt is clearly too long.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

It has been working fine since I have installed it. That said, it isn't really a necessary upgrade unless maybe you want to change the color.

[@mylovelymini]

I have the same one for my T-Line. Trust H&H is brilliant.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Nice. Thanks for the feedback.

[@williesurvives1]

your on a mission to get your bike as light as you can .....just remember the lighter you make it the more fragile it becomes and allot of thought was put into it when it was first produced .....so you may win in the long run but at a inflated Brompton price tag

[@krislundq5563]

you should try wax man seems i use it on my p line no more grease hands and the chain is suuuper smooth

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

My T Line and Superlight are waxed chains. Once the steel bike chain wears out I am going to use wax on that too. Wax is definitely the way to go. So much cleaner and runs smooth!

[@82ogo]

Sometimes son very helpful. 😅

[@_Woey]

hello BFT! I'm very curious about the weight difference between the T-line original and the lightweight T-line so far Thank you for always posting good content videos!! Aslo, I think it would be great to make a comparison video after the weight reduction is finally completed

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I don't have a scale to weight my bike right now but I should be in the 15.5 lbs area. The stock 4 speed weights 17.5 lbs. The stock T Line is so light you really don't need to do all the stuff I am doing. This is my dream bike so I am taking things to the extreme. Most of my previous Bromptons remained stock.

[@ARlELATOM]

I’m looking to find a helmet, I’d love to hear your thoughts on helmets in a video sometime. It’s hard to find one that looks good and is also safe 😋

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I agree! I have been looking for another helmet since my hair has grown my current one doesn't fit anymore. Thousand Helmet probably makes the best looking ones, but I am looking for something more unique. The search continues!

[@ARlELATOM]

@@BromptonFamilyTime Sounds like we are on a similar wavelength. I’m actually warming to the Bern Watts 2.0 (Mips), worth checking out if you’re not familiar with it. It would look pretty unique in the green 🤓

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Thanks I will check it out. Hopefully I can find something I like.

[@jedlee7075]

I think HH p line tensioner use brompton original pulley so that is not good because some noise. But C line HH tensioner use HH own pulley. I Can't understand Why HH make p line tensioner use brompton pulley.

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I would like to upgrade the pulleys in the future.

[@eireu8798]

Hello! I'm looking to get this tensioner to match my P line. Have you faced any issues regarding the differences in spring strength that you've mentioned? TIA :)

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I'll let you know once I get more ride time. So far no problems.

[@jowieyeo87]

Hi brother, can I check with you which part (most weight savings) I could change to make the t line lighter? As I installed a carbon rack + 4 wheels (tiparts) for easy rolling, weight increased, I need to reduce some weight 👍🙏

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I'm changing everything eventually. I think a good place to start are the brake system since they are an older design. depending on your budget, most people will change the seatpost, seat, wheel set and crankset eventually.

[@UncleAT]

Any issues so far after 1 year usage? I’m considering this for T. Let me know your feedback. Thanks!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

It has been working with no issues.

[@mdrahatkhan8708]

Hi; I really like your videos 😊 Do you think Brompton T line is better then electric one? I am 38 years old. Please suggest. Please let me know Thanks in advance

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I have never ridden an electric bike or anything electric so I can't really compare. You should test out both since they will have different ride qualities. Also, the electric comes on two types of frames now called the Electric C and Electric P. I would personally go with the Electric P over the Electric C since it is lighter (as long as you can afford it). Maybe one day an Electric T will come out. That would be the ultimate combination but quite expensive.

[@runabath]

On a budget what things would you upgrade 😅

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Before my last superlight build I was always on a budget. So my must have upgrades are the seatpost, seat, ergon grips (or spirgrips) and titanium brake caliper bolt set for the front and rear. The rest can come over time.

[@denniskcheung]

I'm always wary of changing tensioners. How's it held up over the past 8 months?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

So far it has been good. I occasionally drop a chain, but not often. Since it is metal you do want to be more careful of not dropping it or it will possible bend (unlike plastic).

[@jiaweiwu_]

I was wondering where you get those h&h parts from?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

There are a few dealers. I don't buy from one place or like to recommend dealers since I know people have different experiences with them. Where are you located?

[@jiaweiwu_]

@@BromptonFamilyTime Thank you for the quick reply. I am currently lived in upstate, NY, and always go to NYC once a while. I have a hard time finding those online trustful dealers that sell the brompton accessories like H&H, or Tiparts. Please if you can share with me some suggestions where I can get those parts! Thank you so much!

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

Send me an email at [e-mail]

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

Chinese based A.E. also sells H&H parts from several bike shops to be selected. I normally buy parts for my Brompton from China and lately a lighter standard lenght and - shape, 535 mm black seat post from titanium (very sturdy, and not inexpensive feeling!) for a price about the same as an original, similar standard Brompton pin from aluminum. Finn. Denmark

[@stevenheng3336]

Hi Shu, i bought the same tensioner, any reason why you not changing to hnh derailleur n jockey wheel?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

I am happy with the stock system so I haven't changed anything else. Once these parts wear out, I may upgrade them to aftermarket parts but it depends on the price.

[@stevenheng3336]

@@BromptonFamilyTime thanks Shu!!! What's your t line weight again in kg?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

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[@stevenheng3336]

Thanks Shu!

[@errz]

any gear adjustment required after changing the tensioner?

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

No it is a direct replacement.

[@errz]

@@BromptonFamilyTime Thanks for the info. I've changed mine to H&H!

[@fep.8085]

Love your video but please stop putting gloves… make your hand dirty !

[@BromptonFamilyTime]

🤣