Brooks Cascadia 17 Review. Here's Why Everyone Needs A Cascadia

[@justinpeterson4242]

I've been running in the Utah Mountains with the Cascadia since the 6. I love these shoes for their durability and ability to handle everything I throw at them. They are durable and protective. With no issues, I've run on the slick rock of Moab or the shell rock up around Salt Lake. I've had friends get their shoes cut from sharp rocks or treads torn up, and mine keep on going. They are "beefy" and feel more like a running hiker than my road shoes, but they do exactly what they advertise. A trail shoe that you can run any terrain in and not have to worry if my shoe will make it. I've only got a few miles on the 17's, but I have liked the redesign. They are heavier than my 16's and will take a little getting used to. I did notice the small heel drop from the 15 to the 16 (I run mostly in the Glycerin for the road with an 11mm drop). I don't think they are "too stiff," but I'm also pounding the ground around 195lbs, so I like the balanced feeling of feeling the ground but not worrying about the cousin giving too much and losing my footing in jagged rocks.

[@ConversationalPace]

Thanks for your feedback! Yes, for the running you do, the Cascadia sounds like a great reliable choice 👍

[@razeck1ng]

Thanks for your review Justin. Just a quick question from my part. I'm also running on Glycerin's for the road and looking for an update to my trail shoes. Really interested in the Cascadia's but I hear that you have to get half a size smaller than your road shoes. Can you confirm that or are you running in the same size as your Glycerin's are?

[@GRITtraining]

@@razeck1ng I run in a 12 with the Glycerins and use a 12.5 for the Cascadia's. I go up a half size (and what I was advised by people who know a lot more than I do) to help prevent my toes from hitting into the front.

[@Andy-x3i8y]

I only have a measly 20 km on this shoe but they’ve all been on snow and ice. It performs very well on both.

[@ConversationalPace]

I thought Brooks did an excellent job with the design of this outsole. I'd love to see it make its way over to other trail models in the future

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

These guys sound so high and chill, brooo.

[@ConversationalPace]

That's a good thing right? 😆

[@coreym3516]

As a testament to Cascadia overall, I've seen videos of thru hikers on App Trail and PCT wearing Cascadias through most of the trails. Personally, I need more ankle support, but it says something about its versatility and durability.

[@philipking3010]

Entertaining as always. Compulsive viewing despite having zero intension of buying this shoe. Looking forward to the Craft. (Merrell Agility Peak 5, hint hint)

[@ConversationalPace]

Thanks for watching! Will definitely make an announcement when we get the Merrell AP5 in for review!

[@darrylbenally5190]

I am at mile 200 in my Cascadia 17s and they feel more like a traditional shoe versus a high cushion or carbon plated super shoe. The problem I have with high cushion/super shoes is the tendency to role my ankles on technical and rocky trails. Whereas the Cascadia 17s seem to hug the terrain better preventing ankle injuries. High cushion/super shoes do help propel me uphill. The issue I have is the muscles in my calves do not get the full workout and depend too much on the high cushion/super shoe for the push. When I run uphill in the Cascadia 17s, I feel my calves getting the workout that it needs. It does help me to have the Cascadia 17s in my shoe rotation. It all depends on how you use them.

[@ConversationalPace]

100% agree with all of this. The Cascadia is definitely the far safer choice on more technical terrain. I'm also a proponent of having non plated shoes for most training days. Plated shoes do weird things to the ankles and calves when utilized too much

[@runzization]

​@@ConversationalPaceif you haven't looked already please check out the Asics FujiSpeed 2! I'm a bigger runner(180lbs) but this AFS2 feels like a suspension bridge with carbon plate. A lot of people thought Catamount v1 was too harsh AFS2 feels like an upgrade to this Catamount v1 as it's recoil is very good. Asics curved last helps you pronate and ability to run on lateral terrain. It's worth it enough tho for "asicsgrip"

[@coreym3516]

Sorry, last post (I swear I'm not sponsored), Brooks customer service is top notch. I had a pair of Caldera Appalachians where the seam was parting in the toe box. I sent them a picture and they sent me a new pair no questions asked. Unfortunately it was the next gen which is just too thick like a Hoka.

[@ConversationalPace]

Brooks does absolutely have some top notch customer service. When I was working in run specialty, they were always the best brand to work with to help process returns and the occasional defect

[@coreym3516]

I've been running the Cascadia since version 12. I still wear a pair of v13 as an everyday shoe. I've ran the Calderas but find them way too high for a trail shoe. On road I run Asics Nimbus Lite and Brooks Glycerin. My only complaint about the Cascadia is the weight and breathability, so it's good to see them in a slightly lighter version. I'm torn between the Salomon Sense Ride 5 and the Cascadia 17. Would love to know what others think!

[@ConversationalPace]

The Sense Ride 5 is more flexible and a bit softer. There's also not as robust of a rock plate, so you are going to feel the ground more and get a bit less protection. On the other hand, it's a bit lighter and more nimble feeling.

[@MartyPape78]

I do some very technical rocky trail hikes in Arizona. These and the 16 sure seem like a solid choice.

[@ConversationalPace]

Yes, absolutely! Thanks for watching!

[@DTUFINOPhotography]

got the GTX version of the 18's.... they are pretty great use them for the gym, running and everywhere.

[@redvries9546]

I'm getting this shoe for pure hiking. Was a good choice for the rim to rim Grand Canyon hike which I'll be doing in October.

[@ConversationalPace]

Definitely a fantastic choice for something like R2R!

[@palmvalleyinvestments]

It's a lightweight sub for a hiking boot. In Florida it does VERY well and very lightweight compared to boots

[@ConversationalPace]

100% agree there. There aren't many cases anymore where I opt for a full boot as opposed to a rugged trail runner.

[@rmsrmsrmsrms]

the velcro cover pulls up, that's odd; so it would stick up over the rear of the collar when wearing a gaiter....wonder if you'd notice it when running... Also I've always thought sandwiching a rockplate between two midsole layers was preferable to putting it directly against the outsole, to allow the midsole space to wrap around rocks, as well as to give better vibration absorption (just spitballing, i have no hard data)

[@ConversationalPace]

Oh wow that's a very good point. I hadn't thought of that when I lifted it up. Geez, hopefully it doesn't get in the way or that would have been a massive oversight!

[@UnmannedExplorations]

So I need a good lightweight shoe for backpacking weights through mountain terrain with 60 pound packs. I tried the speedgoats, lone peaks, and brooks cascadia 17. The cascadia is built for backpacking and the stability is bar none. I got tired of lugging around my Lowa Renegades on hotter days and now the brooks is basically all I wear lol!

[@ConversationalPace]

100%!! Yes, I totally agree, I much prefer this Cascadia for backpacking instead of any hiking boot. I also enjoy hiking in the Cascadia more than running in it too

[@gsabella4]

Great review. I'm looking to upgrade from my Altra Timp 4's. I'm in between the Timp 5 and the Cascadia 17.... torn!!!!

[@ConversationalPace]

I've heard the Timp 5 is a pretty massive upgrade from the Timp 4. The new materials and upgraded outsole would have me drawn to that, but if you are looking for a shoe that's a little firmer and burlier, this Cascadia is worth checking out

[@dewaynescott5114]

The end commentary can be summoned up “ a side piece” 😂😂

[@michaelpalm2210]

I have the version 16 GTX version and they are superb winter trail runners. The traction is like knobby tires on a truck. Ice snow rain streams puddles, Nothing can stop you! I also hike mountains in them. I would not run road races in them. I would not run cross country races either , They are bulky built like tank all terrain shoes. Built for protection and traction …NOT Built for Speed! They are fantastic hikers as well, I own 2 pairs and use them alot for my off road adventures. One of my favs

[@ConversationalPace]

Thanks for the feedback! I could totally seeing the GTX version being awesome when paired with this outsole

[@prashanthnarayan4170]

Thanks for adding this bit! This is a similar reason why I was looking at the Cascadia 17 - hiking in possible wet/ cold weather. Was undecided between the GTX and ordinary versions. Now, I'm leaning towards the GTX version. Appreciate your feedback. 🙌🏻

[@polecats03]

I have a 30 mile in one day hike / race coming up. Would you recommend these? I tried the new Speedgoats and the sole cut into my arches.

[@ConversationalPace]

They definitely could be a nice option! This Cascadia doesn't have as much arch feel as the Speedgoat. It is going to feel a decent amount firmer, due to the denser midsole foam, which will help with support and stability, but you will lose some cushion. For some, it's a very worthwhile tradeoff!

[@falltekhe]

Such a great review. I am just now retiring my Cascadia 15s. I also had the Altra Lone Peak 6 in my rotation - which I’ve also retired. I want to get into the more cushioned shoes and was looking into the Altra Olympus 5 and the Hoka Speedgoat 5. Which one would you recommend? Keep in mind that I loved the wide toe box from my Altras. But I know that Hoka has wide options also. PS: representing Ashland, OR and the Rogue Valley in general.

[@ConversationalPace]

Thanks for watching! If you enjoy the wide, square shaped toe box, then the Olympus is going to be the better choice. The speedgoat 5 wide is a wider shoe everywhere, but still doesn't have the square toe box. For most, the toe box shape is good enough, but in comparison to the LP6, it might still not quite be enough room. Ashland, OR represent!

[@scherry2900]

I'm really happy with the Catamount 2.

[@ConversationalPace]

I am as well. The build of the Catamount 2 is much more in my lane for what I prefer in a trail runner

[@UrbanSniper308]

Do these have a decent arch? I have been wearing the support version of Brook's shoes, but there is not a support version of this shoe.

[@ConversationalPace]

It is a reasonably supportive shoe but in a different way that most road shoes are. Where many road shoes will build up under the arch or use a denser material, you don't see that in many trail shoes, because that could actually be less stable when the ground under the foot is uneven. Instead they will use firmer foams and wider platforms to enhance the stability all around the foot for a more even amount of stability on the trail. So these don't have a ton of arch, but I would still consider them a pretty stable trail shoe. Hope this helps!

[@mtnrnnr107]

My first trail shoe was the Cascadia 13 in this special PCT edition color way. Perhaps gotta try them again (in newer form)

[@ConversationalPace]

I loved when Brooks did the long trail collabs on their Cascadia models. I've seen some pop up on ebay for well over their MSRP 😶. To me, this new Cascadia still retains many of the classic Cascadia traits! Thanks for watching!

[@colinmcc8564]

Great review, seems like some really good use cases. What are some road shoes that perform a similar function of keeping the effort easy, without too much cushion? I like alternating between cushion and firm, but most of my firm shoes have rockers or make me want to go fast, like the Saucony Kinvara.

[@ConversationalPace]

Thanks for watching! My go to road shoe that make my feet feel like they're working the right amount has always been the Brooks Launch. I know they advertise it as an uptempo shoe, but I've always used it as the road shoe that keeps me grounded in a world of max stack, plated, rockered shoes. Nike Pegasus as well. Lately, I've really been running in the Altra FWD Experience. Review for that coming soon!

[@grennangoeshiking]

I’m late to the party but my first pair of 16’s got 800 miles on them. I got minor blowout at said point, but I think I broke the plate first.

[@ConversationalPace]

Understandable for that kind of wear for 800 miles. That's a ton of use!

[@gregeberhardt1711]

This shoe is $65 in Australia atm…..great review and will go buy a pair. Plan on hiking, too old and fat to run haha.

[@ConversationalPace]

That's too good of a price to pass up! Especially if you plan to use it for hiking, as I like this shoe better for hiking than running.

[@urgonnaluvit]

where did you find it for $65?

[@RickyDonoho]

Would love to see you guys take on the Saucony Xodus Ultra 2.

[@ConversationalPace]

Agreed, would love to test that shoe out! I will be at The Running Even in Austin, TX at the end of the month and am hoping to make a preview video of the 2024 Saucony line of shoes. I'm curious to see if the Xodus will get an update!

[@nadernikmorad73]

What is the difference between this and cascadia 18 gtx thanks

[@ConversationalPace]

The biggest difference is that any of the 'gtx' shoes have a waterproof upper, where if that isn't noted, it's a fully breathable upper. So the regular Cascadia 17 and 18 will be more breathable and comfortable fit, but the gtx will keep all the moisture out. Hope this helps!

[@nadernikmorad73]

@@ConversationalPace thank you

[@ChrisLena]

I am debating between getting either the Cascadia 16 or 17, if anyone has tried both please let me know which is better and why. Little insight on me, I'm a long time Brooks Cascadia user and had the Cas 2's, and 13's and ran & hiked the hell out of them. They are finally done and I'm lookicn for some new Cas's. Im not a pro runner, I just love trail running and hiking and need a shoe that can do both and will last long. I loved my 13s and looking for something simular. Thanks

[@ConversationalPace]

I would say that the 16 is going to be closer feeling to the 13, as the 17 got more running friendly, and became less of a shoe that really excels for hiking. With that said, perhaps those are changes that would benefit you. Fortunately, the ethos of the Cascadia hasn't changed at all over the years. It's still a firmer, durable trail tank!

[@michaelpalm2210]

The 16;s are selling for less than 100 bucks now. Thats a great value.

[@ChrisLena]

@@michaelpalm2210 I ended up going with the 17s bc I was not able to find a proper size & color in the 16s...I ran with the 17s once andddd they are dope. They are light and grippy, bottom track feels like that of a MTB tire, Havent done any hiking with them yet, plan on soon to see how they do, but, overall pleased with my purchase so far 👍, thanks for the input ya'll

[@Swimmer47]

I have the 16 and 17 and find the 17 to be stiffer and prefer the 16. I can run more in the 16. Both shoes are good and do well on various terrain, including rocky trails.

[@Tokoroegao]

I own a pair of ancient Cascadia from like 2011 or something...

[@ConversationalPace]

Probably not too different from this most recent Cascadia! 😆

[@binaryanthems]

22:33 best $80 I’ve ever spent on shoes

[@themarineman]

Saucony excursion !!

[@stevenshorten6184]

Gaiter loops are often an afterthought by designers.

[@berry5954]

Bought the shoes based on this review. Sending them back. Bloody hell, if I want a dead shoe I take the speedgoat 5. Now the Caldera 6.. that is an amazing shoe, beating the Acics Trabuco Max 2. And bring Finn back, the energy of you both makes it the best channel

[@ConversationalPace]

Rest assured, Finn will always be a part of the full reviews. Our conversation is my favorite part about this whole thing!

[@guilletjean-jacques5107]

je les avaient commandé , des que je les aient recu ......je les aient renvoyée , ce n est plus la cascadia que nous avons connu , ma derniere cascadia etait la 6 , ca remonte a plus de 15 ans , elle etait tres bien , mais elle etait deja entrain de changée , il faut revenir a la cascadia d origine .

[@ConversationalPace]

Qu’est-ce qui vous a tant plu dans les anciennes versions du Cascadia ? (Translated with Google)

[@zacharygarner9425]

Took one look at the foam up close and said no

[@ConversationalPace]

It's definitely pretty old school, and this Cascadia is one of the few shoes that can still get away with that. Thanks for watching!

[@raymond.caldera]

caldera>cascadia

[@ForgivemeLordjesus]

Cascadia> Caldera

[@ForgivemeLordjesus]

Cascadia > Caldera

[@SpaklesDr]

Clickbait title AND a Hoka endorsement lol.

[@ConversationalPace]

Did the title work? 😂 and I definitely endorse Hoka. They make some great shoes!

[@guilletjean-jacques5107]

Elles étaient pas construit comme un tank , la cascadia 17 n a plus rien a voir avec les premières cascadia , qui étaient souple , légère , on avait l impression de voler en toute sécurité ....a présent on ne vole plus .....et le design est pas terrible .

[@ConversationalPace]

Avez-vous trouvé une chaussure de remplacement adaptée à l'ancienne Cascadia ? (Translated with Google)

[@guilletjean-jacques5107]

@@ConversationalPace vous allez peu être trouver ça bizarre , et même si on accroche nbest pas au rendez vous , depuis 2 ans je cours avec toutes les chaussures de la gamme Niketrail , et j adores les TK8 , les WH8 et les zegama ....., manque sur les zegama une accroche digne de ce nom , mais k ai appris que ça sera le cas sur les zegama 2 , quand aux wh8 , l accroche est très bonne .

[@ConversationalPace]

Certainement un peu différent du Cascadia, mais si vous l'aimez et que ça marche, alors c'est génial ! Zegama 2 sera un excellent ajout l'été prochain. (Translated with Google)

[@dewaynescott5114]

The end commentary can be summoned up “ a side piece” 😂😂

[@ConversationalPace]

a side piece that doesn't make any of the other shoes feel jealous though 😂