I have never played Tekken before. Let's fix that.

[@El-Burrito]

I think it's weird how the first combo they teach you, it's to just activate heat and heat smash, something that you generally don't want to do and can only do once per round.

[@roncrudup2110]

Facts. I was doing that combo in the demo. Once I realized it was sub optimal I stopped using it. I guess it is for the absolute beginner.

[@Guitar-Dog]

As a Tekken player, I'm happy playing ranked just now and getting launched and my opponent uses all there meter for nothing 😂 Edit: not missing ranked spam, it's that bad for everyone don't worry. Maybe worse for legacy players, I know I should be ducking etc.

[@Stealthydoughnut]

It's like the street fighter heavy jump in into sweep combo lmao

[@wanpokke]

The game's basically going "we got this new mechanic so we're gonna shoehorn that first and foremost"

[@JaeGroove]

The AKI player not playing Zafina, I’m actually surprised lol

[@TooSweaty7]

I feel exposed... let me live bro lol

[@lukeblaker8009]

Broski often just plays the weirdo character, and nobody is weirder then yoshimitsu

[@Giraffinator]

The dhalsim player didn't even play dhalsim, there's no telling who this guy is gonna gravitate towards.

[@lukeblaker8009]

@@Giraffinator well he said dhalsim had no sauce in sf6, being a weirdo isn't cool enough if you don't have sauce, JP is an old head and aki is a weirdo and they both have sauce

[@nlucky_dude]

​@@lukeblaker8009 dr bosconovitch is weirder, but he's not in t8

[@slugbones]

Bless Timmy Tekken's heart.

[@gaminglakitu]

I do find it interesting that Broski is still looking at this at the mentality that Arcade Quest does need to fully teach people everything right away, because casual players simply can't handle even the smallest bunches of info for fighters and keep it all together and then just say "This is too hard" so Arcade Quest is teaching people what they only need in that moment and time, and is going to very slowly have you learn new things overtime so the other stuff you learn has time to sync in. That's what World Tour does in SF6 very well. It doesn't even give you Drive Rush, Parry, or Impact until like Chapter 6. They want you to learn slow because most people aren't like Broski and are willing to only play online and in tournaments because they have knowledge from over many years, when most people might be trying to genuinely learn Tekken from square one with absolutely no prior fighting game experience. Just something I wanted to mention

[@matthewshaw1577]

I think his problem is more that it just doesnt seem to teach the right stuff, like for the first area they only tech you like 2 combos, one of which activates heat and immediatly wastes it, so you are using the new tekken 8 exclusive mechanics without even really knowing how to move from side to side in a 3d fighter, and asside from that combo you can only use once per round, you just have to spam buttons

[@gaminglakitu]

@@matthewshaw1577 Well that's the thing, that's what most casuals are going to do. Most people just are going to try and mash buttons not knowing how to do anything, so Arcade Quest is teaching the bare essentials of what casuals want first and foremost, and then most likely rolling the rest of the mechanics and movement overtime. Like the average casual player isn't going to care about the movement, they're just going to care about the attacks and doing combos, because that's the most marketable thing about fighters

[@uty_eh]

Have you played the Arcade Quest yourself? The WHOLE tutorial teaches you: - Basic controls (what is in the video) - Rage Art - Universal mechanics of Heat system - Some simple combos - How to do low attacks and throws - What is Tornado - Some basics about punishing minus moves - Only a text explanation of how to recover grey health and that some moves can catch side steps Now tell me if it's enough information for a true beginner to start playing the game. It doesn't even teach you how to break throws...

[@matthewshaw1577]

I have played the arcade quest. Im currently on the third arcade before i stopped. It has not told me how to do a throw yet, only that i can block throws by crouching. it has NOT taught me all the basic controls as it has still not taught me how to move around, so if i diddnt know any better i would be playing it like a 2d fighter. The first combo it taught was single button spam which any player would have fighured out the second they get put in a fight, the 2nd was how to activate heat and immediatly waste it (which thats another thing, getting taught a series of moves that are actively detrimental to good play is not a good way to teach a fighting game). The third combo it taught was i believe combo trial 3 for the character i was playing which acted as the tornado tutorial which was genuinly useful, however at this point it has STILL not explained to me what all my buttons do @@uty_eh

[@zigisamblak]

Legend has it Timmy Tekken is still Korean barbecue back dashing his way to victory.

[@nohbdy1122]

As someone going through the same experience as you right now, I look forward to seeing more of this series.

[@El-Burrito]

I love that you're giving this game a fair shot, it's great to see

[@Nube_Negrah]

He's really not aside from playing. most of his comments are fucking stupid.

[@arjunratnadev]

yeah that's what I wanted to know, does this game have an ingame training systems to bring and hold the newb player upto an average player where the understanding of the game mechanics gives further goals for improvement, if not then I need not buy it

[@Adrian-ub3yz]

Arcade Quest does have more tutorials during the rest of its run, although if you don't find it entertaining I think messing around in training mode is good enough and pretty fun too.

[@oklimbo]

Hope this does well on the channel/you continue regardless cuz I would definitely try to steal what bits I can pick up from your experience. I don't have a system that can run it yet, but I'll eventually pick this up too

[@hihellokitty85]

On the flipside, this will make you appreciate Street Fighter 6 more.

[@Mr.Zonk.Knuckle]

Same case for me! 2d fighting game player here but seeing all the hype and good reviews that T8 has, I wanna learn how to play it too. Looking forward to this series!

[@TheUberFez]

I'm maining Victor for the foreseeable future. I fully agree with your points haha

[@HellecticMojo]

I wish he lost one of the weapons. Too many weapons make him look rather indecisive and wishy washy.

[@Guitar-Dog]

He seems okay, I think his snake edge is totally whack though

[@AnnCatsanndra]

Yes, it is a drip feed tutorial over about 2 hours. The initial steps are stuff that absolute beginners will want, and the situational stuff comes on around the third arcade. Its cool to see you trying to learn the game, in any case!

[@bbyjohn11]

I feel like the complaints that the tutorial didn’t teach you everything from the start is a bit unwarranted. The arcade quest gives you a tutorial and says go us it in some matches. After you successfully use those tools, the game gives you another assignment to go use. It’s a much more effective way of teaching than dumping all the info on you in a tutorial and never having you play an actual match.

[@FireTrainer92]

Mind you you're talking about someone who wants a front loaded tutorial which is too much for a game like this

[@bbyjohn11]

@@FireTrainer92 yeah most tutorials in fighting games are just info dumps you end up forgetting most of it anyways.

[@Nerevaar]

There is a big difference between "not teaching everything from the start" and not explaining basic movement of all things. Noone is asking to perform just frames during the introduction but the very basic concepts should be explained early, and this is also super easy to tutorialize (do 1 sidestep, do a run, do a dash)

[@nohbdy1122]

it's way too long-winded when i just want some basic ass information like "how do i tech a throw in this game"

[@uty_eh]

Except the game never teaches you how to tech throws even in later tutorial sections. Or how to utilize side steps to avoid certain attacks. Or what does wall splat give you. And probably a lot of other things. Also the bots in the later stages start dashing like crazy, but the game never tells you about dash canceling. Overall, a very disappointing tutorial

[@Foster_Wallace]

I'm also new to Tekken and while I appreciate all the macros for beginners, I'd love a better tutorial cause I'm confused asf right now lol

[@FireTrainer92]

You wouldn't want a regular tutorial for this kind of game. Arcade Quest teaches exactly what you need to know for the level you're at.

[@Radec_G]

this game has so many shit going on all at once that i think a clasicc tutorial with "all the basics" will overwhelm most of begginers

[@zonk834]

Id recommend Massive Zug for Tekken tutorials. Also just immerse yourself in the content. Watch Tekken gameplay and naturally you will understand it over time. At the beginner level it can be played like a 2D game and you’ll still have fun. Sidestepping and teching grabs is more intermediate-advanced once you have more time under your belt.

[@DrSwazz]

Wtf broski why are you not playing Streets™

[@VoermanIdiot]

Considering they had nothing to improve or anything from T7, personally I am woefully disappointed in the combo challenges for each character. They barely even scratch the surface let alone teach you any fundamentals about the character. Yoshimitsu is one of the biggest culprits of this, they don't even touch any of the other stances but Dragonfly and they pretty much only teach you 3 different combo routes with different steps between those 3 combos, but don't teach you a thing about Yoshi's other 3 or so other stances.

[@FireTrainer92]

Why overcomplicate the proceedings?

[@nickthegun]

It could do with a user created combo mode, for sure

[@AccelTurbo]

Looking forward to watching you play Tekken!

[@dingusdangus9299]

Victor is like someone failing to make an SNK character

[@zerevity007]

he's mad fun though

[@FireTrainer92]

Failing? Lol

[@azurepixels]

Nah he's a Metal Gear Rising character

[@juanbarb57]

Failing? He's Jetstream Sam mixed with John Wick with a little sprinkle of Solid Snake, I love him

[@andrewvaldez71]

Also learning yoshi. He seems tougher than the other characters I’ve tried but going to ride it out

[@notmyfullname598]

Sajam type name

[@CulturedDegenerate]

If I had $20 for every good fighting game tutorial I wouldn't even be able to buy Tekken 8

[@Nerevaar]

Cool idea for a format

[@poeticider]

Im in the same boat. I got tekken and am new to 3D fighters. I don't think i've ever screamed so much at my TV as I have doing tekken 8 ranked

[@Guitar-Dog]

Screaming is the best part, I have to take breaks to walk around my room 😂

[@rolerat]

Korean BARBEQUE Backdash 🔥🔥🔥

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

I play sf and tekken and seeing you learn tekken is cool af, its so different from 2d im very curious to see someone of your level learn

[@jimonaldo3108]

As a player who is new to tekken (and fighting games generally) i think victor is cool as hell lmao. Hes like exaggerated sci fi ninja John Wick and I love exaggerated sci fi ninja John Wick

[@disco4178]

Aren't there simplified "modern" controls for those that just want to mash buttons?

[@nep401]

Since Aki is considered difficult to use try Lee for T8 if you are looking for challenging playstyle

[@xravia79]

I'm so glad I played T7 lol

[@danieljohnson4530]

I’m late, it’s always amusing when someone doesn’t play a limb based fighter pol

[@cashbag]

Best tutorial is get a friend

[@Guitar-Dog]

Yeah just know someone that can play.. None of my friends want to learn though

[@hailthequeenFM]

Can we talk about the UI downgrade for a moment.

[@shajita]

Must be pretty wild for a SF player to boot up a game where everyone has 60+ Target Combos.

[@HellecticMojo]

lol the avatar is Arcueid. This is great. "Yoshi sucks in this game" When has Yoshi ever been nothing but a mid tier fluctuating slightly above or below?

[@flameburst45]

Hes like top 3 in sc6 but thats a different series i guess

[@DRAKE-mi9rc]

Nobody knows yet its too early. PLUS he is stronger than he ever was. typical chatter knows nothing

[@DragynFyre12]

Tekken Ball and Tekken bowling are real. Why not Tekken Subway Surfers?

[@Mrkrillis]

please more tekken!

[@whizthesugoi]

Victor is so hot though Also im glad youre playing Yoshi, i dont think I'll play this but of i did i was going to play Yoshi or Hwoarang

[@symphonyinrose]

Your comment on trying to make a character looking too cool and completely failing as a result is exactly how I feel about the general character design in tekken. Just too many falmes on pants and business going on with the roster.

[@uty_eh]

The tutorial is so ass. I'm fairly new to the series, too, and I want to learn the game properly, but it seems I'll have to resort to KZbin and googling to understand most things. Especially character-specific stuff

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

you don’t stand a chance

[@SkynnyAnimation]

😅 15:40 15:40 jojoojjjjjijjjjjjjppppp000

[@toxic2yrold]

Don’t ever disrespect my glorious king Victor like that again