Brutal Interrogation - Louis Theroux: Law and Disorder In Johannesburg - BBC

Louis Theroux wants to find out a little more about the methods of punishment used on accused criminals.
Taken from Louis Theroux: Law and Disorder In Johannesburg
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[@chefjosh1973]

"He won't steal again." ...I'm convinced

[@mokgadibopape7102]

Josh I think will probably make him a murder

[@johnkuch1950]

Am not being disrespectful but I wish that kind of interrogation could be applied here in USA. I grantee you, crime issues will subside.

[@9mil41]

I live in SA.beating does not stop them.it only make the victim of the crime feeling better and maybe get his goods back.

[@ashcosmo3854]

@@johnkuch1950 Lmfao. America is run by the pedophile elite. You really want your government to be able to torture you as well ?

[@monkeyjackmonkeyjack3779]

if the shambok beating doesnt work, those tyres in the corner will

[@kubbz87]

Reporter: He looks like he's bleeding Mr NOSHITS GIVEN He got the medicine 😂

[@shanethrelfall416]

The Reporter? Show Louis some respect and say his name at least

[@EastEndBen]

i legit thought he said 'he got the menses' and tried not to laugh

[@ER-kf4to]

Limpopo is wild

[@kennethmortensen8159]

Was that really funny

[@kennethmortensen8159]

@@bond8436 No he says medicin

[@imagination7710]

If he'd have said it twice i'd be skeptical, but hearing it 3 times, theres no doubt in my mind.

[@TheJumpingJake]

I agree. I can't agree with morals... But they live else were in the world, where serious crime is in it's strife and they don't have the money for prisons or, upkeep of prisoners lives. They believe its better to eradicate criminals. There are many coins to the way people want to deal with criminals... End of the day, its not really working for the western country as we are spending a lot of money on prisons and up keep of them... It just depends what crimes you're dealing with. Always expected to be armed, or more of the drunken driver, and substance abuse user?? how'd you react?

[@mingotubman3790]

+TheJumpingJake good points!

[@bottomup2504]

Imagination first time, I don't know about this, 2nd time maybe could be possible and 3rd time yep he sure won't do it again.

[@johnw8685]

Imagination your comment made me laugh. LOLLLLLLL

[@lukemccabe8630]

John W me to hahahahaha

[@mukamuka9822]

*BUT WE DON'T USE IT* in the same breath... "we already used it" 😄😄

[@nathandebruyn2954]

Guys I'm from SA and I can honestly say that this is still nothing they usually beat the accused to death as a community

[@drphilipanderson]

If they make it to A&E the nurses will prevent the doctor from treating him until the appropriate time has passed.

[@slee1694]

Depends on the crime. Usually when they beat them to death it's for rape or murder

[@pasta8709]

Yeah it's pretty common in Liveleak.

[@vectorv4285]

@@drphilipanderson rah really

[@adonaiyah2196]

@@slee1694 wow thats too much tho

[@shay8202]

He won’t do this again...He won’t steal again…HE WONT STEAL AGAIN

[@marcuskolade703]

@Roy Sunshine he said it 3 times... i believe he's sure....

[@adonaiyah2196]

Im convinced

[@kingsleygoeieman94]

He won't, never.

[@giuliozapelli6824]

"he's bleeding" "Yeah! He got the medicine" 😂😂😂

[@matimus100]

Gutter comment

[@ChessNoobX]

Good medicine lol

[@mmb2211]

I just can`t remember the last time I saw someone doing this to a corrupt politician.

[@willemvanoranje1533]

And that's a good thing. This should be done to nobody.

[@BaldMancTwat]

@@willemvanoranje1533 I mean, to be honest, what's the difference between this and America. Here, the police beat the criminal, even though they are technically "innocent until proven guilty". In America, the police take the criminal to the jail, where they have to fight and get beaten by other inmates, even though they are technically "innocent until proven guilty". The only difference is the beatings aren't done by the authority, only allowed by them.

[@tmrevenge]

Who in hindsight are the main reason why so many countries are filled with criminals. They want to keep countries as poor and ignorant as possible

[@willemvanoranje1533]

@@BaldMancTwat Well, yes. That's one of the reasons why the US is (in many ways, but not all) a third world country. (I am not American, by the way.)

[@arthurthegreat216]

Once the pain of his hunger will overpower the fading memory of the pain from his beating, he will steal again.

[@grandmastermomo]

this is beautiful.

[@moneyfreedomsuicide..1869]

Amazing comment.. So true.

[@Sweetskis]

William will cure him with the medicine.

[@peekaboo7614]

Your mind is clouded

[@humanforfreedom9583]

we had hunger and even worse suffering throughout history but not many robbed there fellow citizens, this is a new phenomena because of the destruction of family values by the far left liberal media.

[@bonnie43uk]

Sometimes I'm glad i don't know the kind of things that go on in the world.

[@idris7245]

+Anglo Saxon I know they should bring back the death penalty

[@bonnie43uk]

***** It's a little more complex than that i think, if we still had hanging lots of totally innocent people would now be dead. Jury's can make mistakes.I'd say we've progressed as a society.

[@Gisborne1990]

+bonnie43uk I tjink the fact there are still wars rape and murder show we have not progressed as a society. im not talking about hamgi g a thief like in the victorian days im talking about people we know for a 100% fact did it like that gun smuggler that was just given life here.

[@MikhaelAhava]

The thing is, some people lack the understanding, knowledge, application, or whatever thing that could help us all progress here, the challenge would be to help each other to progress.

[@MikhaelAhava]

If a problem starts, fix it up so it won't get worse.

[@batchad23]

I grew up a poor South African in a super poor neighborhood. Seems cruel, but really. The dude doesnt go to jail (that would REALLY ruin his life in SA believe me), He isnt so injured he needs serious medical attention..and yea..as that dude said. It will be a cold day in hell before he thinks about doing that again. I think the punishment fits the crime..maybe even a little light in hindsight. Pointing a gun at someone is no joke. So take your medicine : P

[@krixxset2214]

Did they shambok you?

[@jonjoking6693]

i would rather get a phisical beating than a 2 or 3 year prison sentence, he will recover much quicker than that.

[@C5FlyingSquad]

Jonjo King They get beaten before they get convicted. This is just a warmup.

[@glazed6098]

Our police force does nothing.... so should we just let criminals run free?

[@giddyupful]

ya hear the guy at the end if we beat him like this he'll never steal again never :)

[@MidnightRambler]

2-3 years of arse fucking..

[@rappakama4989]

👍 i'll take a beating 4 any crime i get caught just dont send me to the county to be tortured for years and years and years until you lose your mind

[@popequiet1935]

Louis isn't as naive as he presents himself to be

[@llVIU]

yeah, he is sent to these places to act as the embodiment of a dumb viewer who never seen this before and is amazed.

[@xxxfirehuunterxxx]

That makes me have a little hope for him. Because his demeanour has me really hating him due to his absolute aloofness during this.

[@samalberti4545]

That is literally the whole point of his approach. He remains aloof and inquisitive, and it puts the subjects at ease and makes them more likely to open up

[@mohaxiir10]

These folks dont know, Louis is trained to get the information as best as he can, the man is genius is his way of doing things.

[@PrivateAckbar]

He's genuinely naive in this one.

[@zolapeterson2122]

it's good for community'😂😂😂

[@reallyshiesty2436]

It is actually

[@chacha-eo9dd]

Afrika is not for sissies

[@dani-vd5gz]

Lmao

[@micahdaley1605]

cha cha ip

[@julirose5078]

It's good until it's one of your own or somebody close to u in that situation. Then the tune will change. Trust me lol.

[@Jzaday]

I remember my grandparents telling me when they went to Kenya (for my aunties wedding as she was working there) they visited Nairobi for the day. They were in a lift when it got stopped by the police and they were told to keep still. They heard a gunshot, there was a moment of silence and then people went about their day again - turns out a man had been caught stealing and the police just executed him there and then....crazy

[@Jzaday]

@@billmotor8303 i mean this was about 25 years ago to be fair haha im not lying

[@billmotor8303]

I get it now..tbh it's super cool with all the parks in like 1hr drives..you should def check it out after rona

[@j_d_w]

The Kenyans said Nairobi is pronounced "I - rob - you".

[@billmotor8303]

@@Official_Baba_yaga thats in the ghettos doe

[@WA-uq1rh]

I bet you he won’t steal again..

[@50centgotshot9times]

I wish they did this to the guys who were talking about putting people's kids into hot water.

[@GABRAN47]

That one died a few weeks after that interview.

[@rampagesmackssons508]

Which episode is that

[@moosesnWoop]

In 2018, the murder stats included 72 deaths by Shambok. Imagine being whipped to death.

[@adonaiyah2196]

Awful

[@BaldMancTwat]

What use are "stats" in a country this corrupt? It may as well be written on a public bathroom wall.

[@madman-xo3ru]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he got the medicine

[@ezzyfiretv8922]

"We have already used it" 🤦🏾‍♂️ on life could you imagine what its like when there's no camera's present

[@Boss2164]

I’m sure you know what those tires are for in the background.?

[@ianmangham4570]

🔥

[@criticalbill2090]

We need this brand of justice in the UK

[@houndofzoltan]

Sometimes feels like it might be good for the community in Britain too...just sometimes.

[@R90909]

Wait, hold up. How come BBC have disabled comments for the videos where Louis meets the racist boers?

[@meegejuuu2305]

FF A i was thinking the same

[@lessons_in_tanya]

I'm guessing there were boer sympathizers in the comments and they had to shut it down

[@terribletanner805]

Simply because the BBC don't want the British to think that racial segregation is okay and multiculturalism is bad (which it most certainly is). The aim is to purify Britain of any agreed homogeneous culture so that a new fabricated one can be put in place, which dangles from the strings of those in charge.

[@caracara300]

Terrible Tanner why do all white supremacist crazies operate from fake accounts?

[@caracara300]

TheGooners11 Ok conspiracy reality UK follower 😂

[@phil.m.b3853]

"This is the medicine ! But I don’t use it" and the guy is bleeding under his shirt...

[@JoeeyTheeKangaroo]

"He won't steal again, he won't steal again, he won't steal again... ever" If a hungry man has no access to food he will do a lot worse than steal, no amount of beating will sate him but access to the means to feed himself will.

[@karl1091]

This is what happens when those who arent capable of governing themselves are given power to

[@cadetrenew]

We get it, you liked it when they couldn't vote or own land in their own country, huh?

[@stustockwell]

literal missing links between civilized humanity

[@WaddedBliss]

With a few good committed men I could clear our council estates of the bullies, the sex criminals and anyone who makes other people's lives a misery.

[@Boxmajor]

2:48 The Sjambok goes skrrrahh, pap, pap, ka-ka-ka Skidiki-pap-pap, and a pu-pu-pudrrrr-boom Skya, du-du-ku-ku-dun-dun Poom, poom, you dun know?

[@markknight6490]

🤣🤣

[@TEGOLIX123]

He got da medicine

[@X2Y23]

The problem with this level of cruelty is that it encourages the further intimidation of witnesses and ‘snitches’ by criminals

[@firstlast2414]

It's not cruelty. It's justice.

[@X2Y23]

@@firstlast2414 I don't think you know what the word 'cruelty' means if you think it's incompatible with "justice"

[@X2Y23]

@@firstlast2414 something tells me you're south african

[@akhonazasembo3016]

This is justice these people do All sorts of horrible crimes such as rape if yourape or kill the community burns you alive

[@Turtle206]

Looks like he's bleeding a little bit? Yeah, he got the medicine!

[@julielabelle2783]

I felt bad for the kid at first. Then I realized, if he was arrested by police; the situation would be exactly the same.

[@gamen8209]

And that makes it less bad??

[@humanforfreedom9583]

The beating was so harsh he became a death mute lol

[@sunlikeful]

In the uk, criminals do not fear the authority, and like going to prison, its like a holiday for them,

[@celticwolf6102]

In the US if you go to prison you risk getting raped.

[@IamSuperEffective]

@Tsar R Of course he hasn't, you gotta remember a lot of the dipshits in the UK want to bring back the death penalty. Humans in general just want vengeance, it's rarely about justice. Prisons should be designed for rehabilitation but people would rather call for Saudi Arabia style torture ...

[@martinmere8821]

That's wierd cuz I know one serious bad ass guy who can handle a lot who says prison was awful, and he is phycologically damaged, and a violent drug dealer and moderately serious criminal.

[@larry90944]

@@celticwolf6102 in the UK , Scotland they would just kill the rapist.

[@larry90944]

@thomas murphy no I mean if a guy in mainstream was raping, he would get done.

[@mmustafa4579]

that guy is NEVER gonna steal again. EVER!! I AM SO CONVINCED I CAN BE HIS GUARANTOR

[@blayasblay3941]

"In Britain this would be considered too much." Said the guy who's ancestors came and colonized the shit out Africa.

[@stevieeskay]

Oh yes, Louis was the skipper on the SS Takeover. Dude wasn’t even born in that era so stop your bullshit.

[@tilley7242]

@@stevieeskay true lmao there’s only so long you can blame others for your countries incompetence

[@subzeromidnight5388]

"South Africa is movie" is a saying we young south africans have to describe the insane things that happens in this country

[@nickhaji-varnavas4497]

Please don't try and bring first world thinking to a third world situation

[@willherondale6367]

But in saying that you're saying that standards of human rights shouldn't apply to people in the 3rd world

[@genki2705]

third world doesn't mean that they're savages, they could call the police and hand him over. But the police there are not working for free.

[@ultimateempress1739]

2nd world, you mean.

[@math97003]

You are assuming that this doesn't happen in first world countries

[@pasta8709]

@@math97003 yes

[@crawwwfishh3284]

Fear brings law and order.

[@rodneygriner7090]

The stick of Justic, I bet you every time a cell phone rings he pissis allover himself.

[@nalamthiyane1928]

You can't bring a reporter that's not a local and expect him to understand what works in South Africa. mob justice works in South Africa.

[@Evansater16]

In what way does it work? South Africa has one of the highest crime rates in the world.

[@michaelalando]

Vigilante-ism steps in when the local police force is overburdened or silent to community victimization. The only other result is an explosion in crime.

[@mrgoat3303]

Morgan Glover thats exactly why mob justice works

[@FuckdasketsHOPassass]

How is it working? Crime hasn't gone down, how are the people in these townships going to change when the police are just as thuggish as the criminals?

[@ThatAncestor]

That's exactly why township justice works, because it's not corrupt the way our Police Force is. Foreigners can't understand this.

[@harrisn3693]

Louis is a unit to go through the depths of the dredges of society.

[@moosesnWoop]

lmao this is just rural justice - though Louie has gone to hilbrow etc. and interview Maleven too

[@ianmangham4570]

Yup

[@petyrbaelish1718]

Johannesburg had one of the highest murder rates in the world when this was filmed. Drugs, guns and stolen property, hardly any police, who were also poorly trained. The government did not provide proper policing, funding or training. As a result, you get unprofessional police units like this, who are made up of a few poorly trained locals and led by an old school chief who has never been held to account for his actions. But ultimately at the end of the day, these 'police' officers are still taking criminals off the streets and punishing them. That cell phone thief got some lashes which will leave superficial wounds. It's not professional at all, but it isn't like they shot him or killed him. Hopefully he learns his lesson from the beating. Someone has to be law and order in that place, and thanks to the South African government, it's these guys...

[@troywright359]

interesting, thanks for the info

[@JusticeLogic819]

It still has today, thats why i left.

[@bigmoscustoms3486]

That first guy is the perfect south african scenario of suspect playing victim.

[@mineduck3050]

HE WONT STEAL AGAIN due to all the dying we're about to make him do right now.

[@thdgcfx]

Drinking a redbull while talking to a beaten man seems weird

[@shaunflowers6382]

He doesn't want to talk because he don't want no more "medicine".

[@alexandredeboucherville9677]

This reporter is detracted from reality. What he sees here in South Africa is a reality of third world countries.

[@allenjustice4518]

Alexandre de Boucherville I advise you to read wide and wild before making such generalized comments. have travelled Africa and a lot of African countries have strong rule of law... Am a Kenyan and I can tell you for sure nothing like this law of the jungle can be tolerated... our law for example if you are caught even in the act, you are still considered innocent and they will arrest you and MUST arraign you in court within 24hrs and u even get bond immediately

[@alexandredeboucherville9677]

I have met and have had a lot of dealings with Kenyans. And although you have a point I stand by the reported facts(Google crime census). Even in Kenya there are places where criminal element terrorise communities as there are no countries without crime. By what I said I was referencing to a global report 2015 2016 based on a wide spread crime found in "third world counties"(Developing countries) ,and by last resort (Great community frustration) judgement by unconstitutional​ means better known as vigilantism is dealt out albeit not reported vigilantes are incaserated. Which is evidence of vigilantism happening.

[@jiggajigjones8210]

Alexandre de Boucherville i grew up in Libya and you are correct...I used to see brutal beat downs over bananas.

[@jiggajigjones8210]

Allen Abok thats because you were lucky enough to inherit the Britannic system of law. As you say this law of the jungle is brutal.

[@gchild123]

Alexandre de Boucherville its called acting

[@themanftheworld8439]

South Africa was a lot safer under the previous govt.

[@Itsmetheworldsgreatest]

Rip William , Mandela would be proud

[@NightmareMan83]

Tyres on the room.... Possibly going to necklace him?

[@dd.4910]

@@benben071 Iss bin revoked!

[@sticklebacketienne]

For stealing a phone? No wayv

[@Redstripe921]

What doyou mean by necklacing him ?

[@NightmareMan83]

Redstripe921 putting tyres ‘round his neck that have petrol in, and setting them alight.

[@Redstripe921]

@@NightmareMan83 Damn that's cruel o_O

[@estebanmolina6456]

Ending apartheid has done wonders for South Africa.

[@adamquirke6024]

And apartheid was awful for these people too

[@uchedonatus3299]

Its really heart breaking to see all that is happening as a result of bad government.

[@julirose5078]

Yes it is. In alot of African countries it is exactly like this. Even kids in some countries got burned by a shop owner for stealing food.

[@chrislaverick6413]

It’s really hard to complain about stupid things like gender pronouns in Canada knowing that stuff like this is happening in the world, God we are far too spoiled

[@BaldMancTwat]

@@julirose5078 I lived in Zambia for a while and I remember two kids, I think about 13 years old, stole a mobile a phone. They were tied to some trees and stoned. At one point they started getting bricks and cinder blocks. Didn't see the end. Have to assume the cinder blocks didn't leave them in a healthy condition though. I should clarify that police were not involved. But to think of it, I only ever saw 1 police officer in my time living there (over a year, in the capital city, Kabwe) but there were quite a few soldiers who would kind of patrol. Although they were armed with AK-47s (Not loaded though, obvious because they usually didn't even have a magazine in it) they would often beat criminals.

[@firstlast2414]

Heartbreaking? Are you nuts? This is awesome.

[@langa77777]

All that is happening because of poor life choices you dumb fuck

[@soolly357]

Dont use it, we've already used it.

[@keepcalmandblametheblackgu9164]

But dont use it.

[@krazytim9050]

looks like the entire Johannesburg police force has shown up in the comments

[@RoronoaZorrow]

how many of you searched Sjambok ?

[@cautionTosser]

i did just now and the first prompt was "sjambok... for sale" lol. I should've used a neighbours phone for the search.

[@RoronoaZorrow]

@@cautionTosser hahahaha

[@swissirish1]

I like how he says 'film' like the Afrikaners/Dutch often do, 'fillum'

[@michaelsanchez8457]

It's like a public caning, except it's not public.

[@meganperreault5191]

Praying for ya phone bandit.

[@shaulstrait4313]

people still think that cops in America are so bad...

[@capt_alex]

Great job 👍

[@tyresejohn8781]

Maleven told you he will put ur child in the oven and put it on so u give him money so the thief's don't hesitate to be brutal. An eye for an eye in south Africa. This was the best case scenario for that thief. If the cameras didn't come it would have been bad

[@boobsthechemist2067]

Johannesburg must be a horrendous place to live 😢🤬

[@phoenixgaming20]

but its not Britain and we cant go changing how these counties have worked for years It would take a generation to change things

[@RottiDog100]

To impose our values and way of doing things is truely racist.

[@merten0083]

That's right, African people don't deserve the value of modern medicine and basic human rights, those are our values and only our values. And if we do give them those sacred values, we're racist people.

[@tomwithey711]

+Erich von Manstein Says the Nazialsozialistiche Feldmarshall.

[@mingotubman3790]

and when one compares oneself to another one commits violence against oneself!

[@barneystn7521]

Yes in Britain this would be too much. Well in Britain criminals don't do too much. Sometimes it takes too much to fix too much.

[@infectionsman]

0:53 They send in Frank Shamrock to suplex the thieves

[@devanman7920]

Haha this actually gave me a good laugh 😂

[@infectionsman]

@@devanman7920 😆

[@Quiter19]

Third time, he won't steal again, means a death sentence.

[@lz4797]

if the cameras werent there they will be beating the shit out of him

[@ogee1264]

"the good ones are on location". He means tree branches...

[@prathification]

He’s not confessing, he’s bragging

[@tinp8028]

2:51 if you were looking for black Matt Damon, look no further

[@Jaypes1]

He did commit a crime. I heard that.

[@SOS-ct9mv]

When I moved to Kenya everything was referred to a getting your medicine, especially happy hour. In America it's called "Happy Hour" in Kenya it's time for "Sundowners" I need a Dawa= medicine/ cocktail/drink

[@seider780]

Same haha

[@ianmangham4570]

Yup, cray cray

[@crisscaseflows]

"this is the medicine but don't use it"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@9yearoldUmar]

In the UK corporal punishment is exchanged with psychological torture…even worse

[@shindousan]

Well known fact in anthropology: fixing the economy so everyone has a decent living standard should fix criminality. Given better opportunities, very few would choose crime.

[@MrThommo78]

The way punishment should be !

[@nihil0065]

Sjambok for UK

[@timober9282]

A big whip, like a riding crop only much heavier.

[@TinyMaxfer]

Sjambok is a african version of a caddle whip

[@peterbird3932]

www.coldsteel-uk.com/store/Sjambok.html

[@humanforfreedom9583]

Yeah it’s actually more humane than locking someone in a cage for all them years and the offender probably learns a lot more from the short but harsh experience.

[@badgersgetabadname]

Yes because violence will always work on people in poverty....If your only way to survive is to do x you will do it

[@kili2016]

The car tires are pretty scary to me if i think about how they burn on people...

[@diogeneslantern18]

Ah Mapogo. The folks in the township are deathly scared of them. They are vigilante justice at its finest.

[@bunkerboy-hf4xh]

"I must wait till I get to beat them."

[@fojnica2226]

beating stick come from good

[@uwemeyer6823]

the only language THEY understand...

[@shay1166]

South Africa is a terrifying place sometimes

[@nemanjadraca4012]

Dude is filming this even legal 🤣

[@xrl1193]

YALL CAN'T CRITICIZE THEM.

[@khazamulawitamic4398]

This man said showing the stjambok is unlawful right after he admitted to torturing a man

[@downunderdog]

what a mess of a country, the law enforcement is no better than the criminal

[@Delphi111]

At least they say it openly that they beat them . Other "democratic" countries police never admit it !!!

[@ghamzawyngaard8923]

William ain't no snitch 😂

[@natesnautical]

It sickens me that BBC thinks this is entertainment.

[@marcp3788]

He got the rod of correction

[@tylercsm4690]

He wont steal again. okay bro

[@aztardino7254]

I thought he said after he's a bleeding a little bit ! He got dementia! 🤣

[@user7966]

anyone will steal if they have too. It just if they are push to do so. Fair law and order is so important.

[@Quiter19]

It's the tyres in the corner that freak me. They soak them in petroleum and put them around men's necks and light them on fire. I saw it in 1985. Everybody was singing and dancing. A lot safer after the example that happened then. But only until ones forget.

[@buzzlightyear2490]

There are respected at what they do, it works for them, but when multi culture live together it dose not!!

[@dewaldtshandymanservice2337]

In Lusaka Zambia I saw a taxi driver hit a kid on the road, a mob formed, they stone him and burnt the taxi.

[@JohnSmith-ep2hh]

PLOT TWIST: He stole again.

[@straightletterz2596]

_after the interview_ so....nice to meet you? take care! (drives off and sees the silhouette of his continuing to get beat)

[@camptube7621]

Justice.