Brutal Test Match | Rugby Pod Break Down Springboks V Ireland

[@jonnywalker5361]

Beware the bots in the comment section. They post divisive messages just to get more comments. Good game SA, we’ll go again next week. 🇮🇪 🇿🇦

[@myshepspud1]

Believe it or not as a Bok supporter watching the game I think I'm not alone in thinking most of us would not have wanted TMO 50 50 decisions to go our way 3 out of 3 because we wanted to beat you fair strength Vs strength. The same in the WC final I'm willing to bet most will take the win. 😅. But there's that niggle that we'd have preferred to have done it without the NZ red card. We respect Ireland, you're in the top tier in our minds that's why we jeer or some idiots online. We respect you as a strong rival. And I think most of us would agree we'd love it to be the kind of fight tooth and nail but mates off the pitch respect we have with NZ.

[@ballsacks6635]

You spelled Boks wrong lol

[@readesiun988]

@@myshepspud1 In Ireland the Boks have always been respected and still are, nobody in Ireland doubts you are number 1, in fact we doubt that we are number 2, since the world cup, the Irish have lost their mojo and even the Leinster Internationals have been very poor by their standards. The fact that somehow they got it together last weekend at altitude for the full 80 minutes was admirable. But the British officiating were dreadful and the same bunch will be officiating again this Saturday. That in itself is a mountain to climb, Ireland have never done well with English referees. With all our Injuries I still think they will turn up and give 110% and hopefully we can make it a great second test. Good luck

[@donnachamcgowan]

S.A would not.have won.if gibbons gibson park was playing ..the bomb Squad are a Joke as far as Ireland are Concerned... ..We do NOT .like DISRESPECT ESPICALLY FROM TMO OR.REF....

[@willempretorius6700]

The Rugby Pod is rapidly becoming one of the top rugby podcasts out there. Enjoy it every time. Thanks guys.

[@garethscott9051]

Big Jim and Goodey are just first class pundits. These conversations are rugby 🏉 gold for me

[@neilneil2147]

Agree 100%

[@user-cs7nx6dm1q]

"big jim" was a crap player and is a worse pundit. just listen to his predictions , the clown is almost constantly having to apologise for how far wide of reality his predictions were.

[@leigh-anndesousa9307]

You men are kind and gracious towards the South Africans. Appreciate the honesty , so much respect for this kind of conversation. Cheers.

[@toconair]

Big Jim has some issues with Ireland - fact.. just because they won’t give him an interview.. Andy Goode is the man to listen to when discussing rugby and always welcome in Ireland 😂

[@ronniemurtagh1786]

Great jobs lads. As an Irishman, I agree with both of you. I cannot see us pull it out this weekend with the injuries. I hope I am wrong, but I just don't see it. Everybody knows that SA are truly #1 in the world. And I don't see that changing anytime soon, or in the long term. Boks are scary good!

[@greenplasticgun]

Dude you were 7 points away at Loftus with some bad luck. The ball will be slippery in Durban and altitude will no longer be a factor. Granted, your injuries are an issue as your depth isn't there, but any SA fan with their head on their shoulders isn't expecting an easy win. Some of us are nervous about the Irish backlash from what they learned in the first game.

[@patman142]

@@greenplasticgun exactly, too many Irish sops on these comments

[@greenplasticgun]

@@patman142 Totally. Also, what's an Irish sop?

[@patman142]

@@greenplasticgun a wuss, always trying to please others

[@patman142]

@@greenplasticgun a wuss

[@Burninglash]

Ireland forwards try was class.. SA is going there. Give us 3 years...

[@MosesMatsepane]

I was impressed by that. It's dangerous though, if they perfect that move, they could become a problem. 🤣🤣

[@wagstation]

On RG Snyman's follow through on Casey, it was a horrible injury to see, but there were two almost identical late tackles by Joe McCarthy in the Bulls v Leinster game a few weeks ago, including the one that ruled Willie le Roux out of the URC final with a concussion. Neither tackle received any punishment

[@ryanwaugh1]

And so they shouldn't. The tackle was perfect

[@gizmoza]

Not sure why you would think they deserved punishment?

[@FreePalestine-q1s]

You are talking absolute crap. Was a cheao nasty illegal tackle and should have been yellow The ball was long gone and Snynan was offside. Ref and tmo had a shocker Very biased towards bokkie and ye still only one by 7! You one eyed bok supporters make me laugh. Perfectly good try disallowed for Ireland. Lowe was clearly in touch for Kolbes try. But you go on living in your fantasy land. FYI I think Ireland will pump the boks by 10.or more on Saturday 👍👍

[@merlinbotha363]

@@gizmoza he did not say it deserved punishment

[@gizmoza]

@@merlinbotha363 so what does “neither tackle received any punishment” insinuate?

[@PAULO-px3or]

just letting you know that there was a 17 year old kid playing in the Craven week bigger the Eben Etzebeth

[@madikanesesethu]

Tim covered the Craven Week his huge

[@Nick-18]

He got signed by the french

[@user-eq9jv5uf7d]

That just modern rugby man, players are getting bigger..NZ now has two 6 foot 5 props weighing 145kgs, France has some monsters coming through as well.

[@shadowcraft666]

That's absolutely crazy - what are they feeding kids these days haha. They keep getting bigger! Ireland u20s also have a kid called Alan Spicer who's 6 foot 10 and 140kg+ only 18 years old Absolutely insane the size of these boys, and they'll likely bulk out more into their 20s

[@Demondoink1]

How have Leinster had a long season? They rest their best players for 80-90% of the league season, and only play them in the Champions Cup and if they make the playoffs. It would be interesting to compare the minutes played for both the SA players and the Irish ones this season at club level. I’d imagine the SA guys have played a lot more rugby.

[@aidanmasterson50]

You can imagine. That’s proof I guess.

[@louish5082]

I'm sure it's difficult for you to think, but most of the Leinster players are the in the Irish team. Therefore in the last year they have probably played 10+ WC/Internationals, 7 Champions cup games and at least 5 Pro 12 games. They also played right to the end of last season as well. But as with all South Africans, it's always about you. Why is that?

[@stiofain88]

RG Snyman played about 20 minutes this year.

[@davidpeters3857]

@@stiofain88😂😂😂

[@raymondmatthee8779]

Okay then lets spin it this way.... The Irish has been in form and playing together so long and lost against a team not in form and now only had their second game together, 1st for most this year, whats worse......? The excuses count for naught if you have been shouting you are number 1 at the top of your lungs and then this is what happens, when this happens its oh their tired oh injuries, yet you play a team that only now got together for the first time, choose one, eitherway its aparent

[@chipperjaunte]

Been waiting for this since the final whistle thanks lads

[@mvubu6823]

Someone help me understand the fixation on the size of the springbok players. Scrum weights are often the same or even bigger than the Boks.

[@user-hy5wd6xh3o]

Its not just about the size, but strength and technique. No use in weighing 140kg, but a Saffa of 100kgs fucks you up. We are just built differently. Get use to it.

[@Ithyphallic777]

I think it's the fact that South Africans are naturally larger than most other nations. Seeing pro rugby players on TV, even in the stands from a distance, go head to head, diminishes how big they really are. If you stand next to them, it's an entirely different story (unless you're also built like a brick shit house of course). I'm an average sized South African I guess, and I'm 1.9m tall @100KGs, not too lean, but not fat either. I've travelled to a few places in the world and I've always felt much larger than the average person in another country, both in terms of height and weight. I am 35 years old now, and have worked many hard years to be in the shape that I am in. If a just-out-of-school-boy that's 19 stands next to me and dwarfs me, I'd be thinking what the hell is going on. My father is as big as I am, and so are my two brothers. Even my sister is just a bit shorter than I am. So to make a long story short, I believe people get fixated on it because they've actually been in the presence of these big men.

[@mvubu6823]

@@user-hy5wd6xh3o I am one of you big boy... 😘

[@raymaasburg9659]

Same here. At 6'1, I've never felt particularly tall 😅

[@joswan4719]

I’m a South African/American standing at 6’2” 243lbs. I’ve never felt smaller than the day I was at the airport with the springbok team standing next to me. They are just wider than a human/athlete should be. Shoulders, jaws, hands, forearms look hard as nails. It’s just different. I’ve never seen it from another rugby nation nor NFL players.

[@rimfirediaries7897]

You boys are incredibly entertaining. It's a pleasure to watch.

[@CF-lg8jd]

It was closer than I expected, I think SA have more to offer than Ireland this Saturday re. tidying up mistakes. What I like about this Irish team though is Farrell won't allow excuses, next man up, it's an opportunity etc....

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

How though ? I don’t get how everyone expected ireland to lose by 20 points

[@101MIGHTYJOE]

​@Sineadmcd the southern hemisphere teams are not used to facing a consistent irish team as historically we have normally produced one big performance then fall off so when we ended the 6 nations on a fairly average performance I think all other nations expect us the fall back and not be a serious long term threat

[@davidwalker2402]

@@101MIGHTYJOEno a team that has hammered the shit out of you home away neutral for 8 years a team you haven’t beaten in 12 years in their own country , you think there is no consistency there a team that ha won twice the prize money SA has in 25 years . What an insulting prick you are.

[@ronangriffin4322]

Ireland didn't show up for 30 minutes and still took it to the wire. SA haven't beaten Ireland since 2016 and you thought it wasn't going to be close?

[@xpat73]

The Bok defense - especially in the first half was so powerful and so brutal. Even legit ball carriers like Doris and Furlong were getting blasted....even by backs. They hardly had any go forward.

[@tenchemarius]

Please remember when Ireland player J Stander tackled Pat Lambie. That tackle finished Pat career.You forget that one?

[@benkay1390]

Good comments. Interesting for me that the Junior Boks didn’t even make it out of their pool at a home WC for the under 20s. Shows the difficultly of sustaining high level talent/performance from generation to generation like the ABs have

[@Chris____zzzzz]

It's concerning to see the poor performances of the Baby Boks. If this is what lies ahead for the Springboks, it doesn't look good.

[@BaldBuggersHomeDistilling]

Their is no way a saffa springbok is going to run on the field and be thinking oh I must remember to play it easy on my mates on the other team - it simply doesn't happen - it will probably be on RGs mind now but I can guarentee he has apologised already and are mates again - that's how the team operates

[@joewhelan5018]

Another English referee for the second test is Ireland's biggest problem

[@justinross9382]

LOVING THAT THERE IS NO BIAS JUST TWO GENTS TALKING RUGBY

[@robhallie]

It's a Scot and an English man, they couldn't be biased if they tried

[@Bystander.13]

Good thumbnail. Grabbed and got me.

[@siraajjohaadien884]

Look Ireland played a darn good game.. Give them that.. The score not far off... Next game gonna be epic!

[@phillipfortinbras3896]

Don’t agree With respect to Caseys tackle when he(snyman )had Him on the ground he grunges his head into caseys head. This small act made it illegal to me.

[@anotherstormer]

The game in Loftus could've gone either way after the early SA dominance didn't translate into a lead of any real consequence and Ireland were the more dangerous side in most of the 2nd half. The Durban game was the one I felt most likely to be Ireland's so I can't say I am anything other than nervous. Excited, okay but very much nervous.

[@loughrey101]

I'm calling bullshit on Snyman doing it accidentally. He knew exactly what he was doing. He went in on him hard like he was tackling a big prop and it was a borderline late challenge too. He also made zero effort to check up on him before or after the game like Pollard and Faf did. Says a lot about his character. Snyman did that deliberately. It was a cheap shot, no question

[@TheoneandonlyRAH]

Great pictures lads, return to yours studio and these cameras please.

[@williambotha5864]

Sublime. No more words.

[@user-yq7tt3ii6h]

I mean no disrespect with this comment, but South African's playing in Europe give at most 40-50% for their clubs... Kolisi, de Allende, Snyman, Nyakane, Pollard, Kitshoff, le Roux all average at best in Europe, but when they play for South Africa, they're among the best in the world... its like they're in plane mode until they get called up to win something with the boks - and fair play to them.

[@KingKhyron]

Utter nonsense. The competition to get into the Springbok squad is FIERCE and cut throat. These guys can not stop performing at club level, they always have eyes on them and theres ALWAYS many guys that want your position.

[@user-yq7tt3ii6h]

@@KingKhyron I agree with you, its hard to get into the squad and South Africa has a lot of great players, but the European based players have been called out by multiple fan bases/owners for their poor performances...

[@andilemthana6614]

Agree. There's something about how Rassie gets into players' skin. I am not surprised all coaches around the world aren't doing the same. It's more about money rather than passion and the BIG WHY.

[@enriquenelson7184]

To be fair Habana was the same. He'd have a shit season for the Bulls but give him that green and gold and he's a super human.

[@danemyburgh]

De Allende? Wrong. He plays in Japan mate.

[@braaitongs]

I think Osborn was good at 15 for Ireland.

[@paulcostello1807]

Thought so too although he was not kicked a whole lot but in a game like that he showed well

[@okkertgreyvenstein5765]

Ok mates I hear what you say about RG tackle, when Leinster played the Bulls in the semi, they played Willie and Goosen also many a times without the ball, its rugby, sometimes you committed to the tackle and there is no stopping in that moment, i can bet Jim had a few of those too.

[@aidanmasterson50]

@@okkertgreyvenstein5765 not disagreeing another perfect example of an accidental concussion from a ‘dog shot ish’ move to keep the player out of position a little longer. But jeez those Bulls fans where all over the interweb with accusations of bribery of the officials etc. I felt Whitehouse the TMO who was completely absent in that game might have over compensated in the the international game.

[@davesmith826]

I said it before the game that the Boks would be coming for blood, partly for the off-the-ball hits, partly for the use of shoulders to clear out rucks. They did. I just hope no lasting damage was caused to Casey, who didn't deserve the hit he got.

[@brianmurray6287]

@@okkertgreyvenstein5765 don't know how snyman stayed out of jail let alone stay on the pitch...it's rugby not street MMA.

[@nicobr00]

@brianmurray6287 go watch Netball.

[@okkertgreyvenstein5765]

@@aidanmasterson50 look we will never have a perfect referee game. Would be nice but dont bet your house or life on it. We have seen in the URC, VERY INCOSISTENT, but we as teams need to adapt and play the situation and whats infront of us

[@redneckReno]

The Boks are rounding out their game with ball in hand and THAT is the scary part

[@botetiinvestments4019]

That forwards try was perfect … slow drift with a soft short pass.. amazing well done Ireland

[@michaelvdunne]

I am more than surprised you gents didn’t mention the officials. Pretty poor at best Whitehouse chronic.

[@davidroseitg]

the issue I have is it was not a penno, he was in at the side illegal, ref was shit

[@MrRedsh1rt]

SA got the scrum instead, which led to a penalty which they scored a try on.

[@davidroseitg]

@@MrRedsh1rt to be fair Ireland don't have huge depth, so we may not be competitive this weekend, but I really hope so as the game was there for the taking last weekend

[@MrRedsh1rt]

@@davidroseitg it was there to be won I felt both teams didn't play well though springboks attempts at playing more expansive is bad news for everyone when they get it working. Can't see Ireland doing well with the injury doubts they have but you never know. Be good to see some young players starting, Izzy for Ulster is one to look out for.

[@davidroseitg]

@@MrRedsh1rt maybe two teams making each other look bad at times, was very intense

[@StaalBurgher0]

McCarthy did the same on Willie in URC semi final and his tackle was even later. Willie also hit the back of his head and missed the final. Potentially contributing to the Bulls loss. No peep about that...

[@endaoshea5328]

Probably because of the highly dangerous and illegal clearout of JGP that followed 5 seconds later

[@StaalBurgher0]

@@endaoshea5328 always an excuse

[@KenKirchmann]

Always a great show. Keep it up gentlemen!

[@Junior_soccer]

"Have you seen what's coming around the mountain when they come" 😂😂😂😂

[@amerc7113]

With all the valid concerns around head injuries, why is head gear not a requirement? Sure, change the laws to make it safer, but no amount of laws will protect as much as head gear.

[@user-pk5pr8rv4g]

Brain injuries caused by brain shaking in the skull, I think. So padding doesn't really help. But I'm not an expert

[@brianblignaut5843]

Love this show

[@schalkkymdell5941]

Best Rugby podcast in the world. The flow 😮

[@iano239]

Great lads. A lot more enjoyable with the result on Saturday. They went out there and did something. Rugby is better for it.

[@sergioraltonsamuels3851]

So SA don't play in European comps? Aren't their players tired too? You both know these are split second decisions being made on the field, his momentum is already going forward how is he suppose to stop the tackle?

[@eoinmiller5620]

Nah they knocked out of them before the big boy stuff kicks off

[@nielvanderwalt1965]

They have 10 times more players so they can rotate.

[@Burninglash]

Btw we are not that sure of the Durban win. Boks do poorly there. And we still bedding down the new attack. Ireland are definitely capable of the win. Go Boks we are all behind you. All 60mil of us.

[@merlinbotha363]

Weather is in Boks' favour

[@danglybit1]

Second test: I was kinda ambivalent, as I saw the boks taking Ireland to the end and thought... oh no! Ireland's trip home was gonna be a long way home! then a moment of magic....Hope u have a good trip home...Capetown

[@geoffnelson6756]

As Jim and Gody said, SA were highly motivated for this game, I think Irelands injury list comes down to intent, Razzie has them mentally prepared for 'war' literally, they proudly said it would be a war, Razzie also selects by 'battle stats', so it's the extra intent to 'damage' the opposition, Kwagga Smith landing on the back of Osborne after the try is scored, Mostart dropping his knee on the legs of Sheehan on the ground knowing he had an injury, and seconds after Casey is knocked out a SA player praises Snyman with a low five, it is clear they play with a different agenda to most other teams. Sheehan out for a year. ITS A GAME!

[@merlinbotha363]

South Africa has always played this way , that is why they are so historically dominant

[@geoffnelson6756]

@@merlinbotha363 I admire SA power game and tenacity, they are blessed with vast depth compared to most teams, I think this viscious edge is unnecessary and my feeling is that it will ruin the game as WR will be forced to implement changes to ensure player safety, Razzie may be aware of this with Tony Brown developing a passing game.

[@djambo8887]

I'd like to see Ireland picking their biggest forwards from the provinces and seeing how they do against SA.

[@Bobbydyland]

Does RG Snyman need to complete the tackle on the Irish 9? No, probably not, but keeping the 9 away from any ruck or maul is a great way to slow down phase play. All teams do this, hell Ireland is renown for holding the other teams players into Rucks. I do see it as shithouseery, but not malicious. It's no worse than rolling away from a tackle into the path of the 9. Only this time it led to an accidental head injury.

[@BogartAus]

💯 every team is taught this.

[@user-kk4lw4mr6i]

Agree and he wasnt offside either which wasnt clarified by former ball players no less. The ball was dropped in the ruck, meaning there is no offside line anymore, so he was making an legal tackle. Rugby is brutal, people shouldnt forget that.

[@aidanmasterson50]

100% same happens in Ireland. It’s to keep him out of position. The result is accidental. Think a few Irish fans might have thought it a gentlemanly thing to do was for RG to check on him.

[@joemoody7440]

@@user-kk4lw4mr6i he was a mile offside never got back onside came straight through the side of the ruck it's very clear.

[@davidwalker2402]

@@aidanmasterson50you’re a clown . It’s RGs responsibility NOT to unduly injure a player.

[@Camcolito]

I'd be worried about not being able to beat an understrength Irish team at home with everything going your way by more than 7 to be honest.

[@okkertgreyvenstein5765]

Under strength, you must be joking, that's almost the same team that played the quarter final, , yes no Hugo Keegan and Jameson Gibson park, so not understrength , Johnny Sexton retired, but hey if that's your world cup squad for 2027 then I see trouble for Ireland, but thanks for the joke mate, had a really good laugh

[@matthewalexander7574]

😂😂😂😂 Under strength. What rubbish

[@michaelbaxter7452]

Haha First time playing new attacking shapes, first game of season, num 2 in the world. and we beat them at a jog

[@mattm7426]

I'd be worried to never have made a WC semi

[@riaanvanjaarsveldt5390]

It's the first test the springboks played together since world cup, irish has been playing a lot of rugby, I would be worried if I was irish, and the springboks has a new structure and game plan of playing

[@xpat73]

They lost by 7 points to a full strength Bok side playing at home and at altitude. Lowe gifted the BOKS 14 points by 2 stupid plays. They had a try ruled out on a bs call. Boks deserved to win. But it was close.

[@christiancorrigan1296]

Someone put it to me that Ben Whitehouse was looking for anything to disallow the try

[@darrenleroux2034]

20 - 8 after 75mins isn’t that close….. loose in the end with both sides leaking points but Boks dominated 70mins, not by a big margin but it was clear to see.

[@vjmightyw]

THE TRY RULED OUT IS NOT A BULSHIT CALL. IT WAS A LEGIT CALL. WHEN THE SPRINGBOKS PLAYED AGAINST IRELAND 2022 A MAUL FORMED CLOSE TO THE SA TRYLINE AND ONE OF YOUR GUYS WAS LYING ON THE GROUND KICKED THE BALL OUT ON THE BOKS SIDE , AN IRISH PLAYER PICKED THE BALL UP AND SCORED AN ILLEGAL TRY. THE BOKS LOST THE GAME.

[@xpat73]

@@darrenleroux2034you created one try . The other 2 were gifted by Lowe. You didn’t do that much in reality. Best thing was your defense.

[@siviwenjajula5844]

​@@xpat73 you lost to a very rusty Bok team.. The 1st test was my biggest worry, now its going to be 2-0 without a doubt.

[@melodysleeping3807]

As a S.African I hate that Ireland injury list, I want those rights without doubt.

[@subhuman119]

South Africa were lucky. The James Lowe mistake that lead to Kolbe's try was a massive error by the TMO. The ball touches James Lowes leg as he tries to bat it back into play. Which means the ball was dead, and that try would have never been scored. The issue is that TMO was focusing on the hand - please go and at it for yourself or check our TASanalytics video on the game. Also the Irish try that was disallowed under the posts, you can actually see the ball touching the ground. Once again, the TMO calls it incorrectly. The RG Snyman tackle, it was unfortunate that he knocked his head, but the follow through on the tackle was late.

[@jzkramer]

If the dog hadn't stopped for a shit, it would have won the race...

[@nielvanderwalt1965]

​@@jzkramer typical response.

[@jasonp1407]

If my mother had balls she would be my dad. Whats your point.

[@johanstruwig3815]

The problem was that the on field decision was a try. That means that there must be clear evidence that a try was not scored, for whatever reason, and there was no clear evidence.

[@DP-cd5wr]

That case whiplash was horrifying to watch. Hope he has a speedy recovery, was having a great game

[@derekfelton8287]

I thought the RG hit was terrible. Really feel for the scrummie. Snyman is like a big dog that doesn't know his strength. Let's hope he apologised and learns from this. Caylan and the fullback were brilliant and Lowe is a good matchup with The Kolbe. Some amazing players - Bokke probably gor a little scare there - oh and Doris is a maniac !!! unbeleivable. Bokke !!!

[@trint417]

Im sure RG will be buying pints for Casey for the rest of his life

[@andilemthana6614]

I guess you were watching a different game than the rest of us.

[@derekfelton8287]

@@andilemthana6614 yes everyone watches their own unique game - same as yours

[@derekfelton8287]

@@andilemthana6614 no need to get philosophical about it

[@williepepler9726]

clearly you haven't touched a rugby ball in your life!

[@Burninglash]

Funny enough depth between world cups is not critical. As long as you not playing to frequently. That's Ireland Achilles heel at workd cups. It's a marathon ..it's not your first 15 that wins it for you it's what's still standing at the finals

[@davesmith826]

Which is precisely why Farrel playing the same players in the pools against sub-par opposition was mad. He's clearly an elite coach but he dropped a big ball there. I'm convinced a fresher Ireland would have had just enough to beat New Zealand and bury their QF hoodoo. The other big coaching mistake of the competition was made by Rassie in the semi-final. He had the bright idea of fielding the same starting XV in two successive weeks and that almost cost the Boks a place in the final because the entire side was exhausted from the arm wrestle with France the week before.

[@Burninglash]

@@davesmith826 it was a close one for sure

[@Burninglash]

@davesmith826 it's also that France was incredibly good. That match was simply the best rugby I have ever watched. Both sides have the power game. Both sides have lethal backs, and both sides made almost no errors. Plus you had the roar of tye French crowd and this to win had to be 5% better just due to home advantage (usually referred to as rub of the green - unspoken pressure on the ref exerted by the crowd) I do believe that if had to.play France in the finals we would have lost

[@tenchemarius]

In regards with the size of the forwards please check the weights of the packs of various teams and you will find out the Springboks are not heavier, in some instances are few kilograms lighter than the opposition

[@thegulagarchipelago5921]

It's not Tony Brown that brings it out in the Springboks! Its ALWAYS been there!!! I Like this podcast a Lot but on this one you kneed to go and study Springbok history!!!

[@Faust_ZA]

Yknow CJ Stander ironically being a saffa playing for Ireland killed pat lambies career as soon as RG does an actual tackle and the player lands awkwardly its a problem. We moved on with pat lambies injury i dont think that Irish 9s career is over

[@eughrologh]

Stander got a red card, made a big deal of apologising for what he saw as wrong-doing and Lambie played on for another 2 or 3 years. I don't see what it has to do with this conversation?

[@John-mi2rt]

How about condemning both if that is the case instead of using the pathetically childish bla bla did it so it's alright bla bla did it.?

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

RG was offside and was far too forceful he didn’t even go check on Casey while the DJ encouraged the crowd to sing .. Absolute trash garbage behaviour

[@gregsoul]

@@SmcdMcd-d2k Cry us a river, then get in your canoe, and fokof.

[@nicobr00]

@Sineadmcd oh goodness, we have a sensitive Sally here.

[@connolly207]

They have a full back but he plays for Munster so Healy doesn’t get a shot at it same as Frisch

[@Mojo16011973]

I call BS on your take of the Snyman tackle lads. Nasty it was.

[@ceddie2762]

It's your right!

[@RedEye5432]

Really great show gents.

[@jcdirksen5954]

South Africa used to blame the ref , got better when they stopped it and realised that they are the problem

[@user-sl2nd3kf7e]

Something away from the springboks I suggest that sa rugby apoint new more professional coached to the under 20 side The current trainers is not up to standard.and the juniors have a poor outcumi i suggest they try and get Franco Smith or Heyneke Meyer

[@neillscannell9278]

You know when us Irish win is when ye all say we can't. See you on Saturday.

[@thomasVA9707]

Yeah man, i cant wait for Saturday , these two teams playing sure is exciting 😎😎😎🇿🇦 I saw some irish fans were complaining about the hostile environment, but the more the irish get used to it the better for them, it has always been like this when we play ABs here and by them, and now its also like this when we play you guys as well and its cause the irish team deserve the hostility and that's a compliment

[@johnangulin8866]

As good as SA were and they were very good. Two mistakes from the otherwise excellent Lowe gave SA great opportunities for tries. Ireland had to create their opportunities

[@eamonndawson5329]

You can’t really say the Casey thing was an accident ,when he meant to take him out of the game , I am sure he didn’t mean to do it to that extent , but he did mean it , which is bollicks , it’s nasty stuff, stop excusing it .

[@thomasVA9707]

Well try to be a bit softer on the NH players, im sorry man

[@vjmightyw]

Casey knocked his head first against the referees knees and than whiplashed his head against a hard surface SA rugby field.

[@oldman774]

Our Boks are the luckiest team in the world, the referees have won us a qf, sf, final at the rwc and also the match vs ireland, a shame though they didn't help us out in the pool match vs Ireland.

[@nevillepieterse9983]

Good thing we lost pool stage, otherwise we would have been deprived of a great final between sa vs NZ

[@FreddieCM]

😂😂facts

[@wot4922]

😂😂😂

[@johnbohan4222]

If Pollard had been selected for the pool match against Ireland in the RWC South Africa would have won. Faf De Klerk and Manie Libbok missed several kicks which were crucial points. I was at the game and it was an excellent contest between two world class teams, respect to all the Bok's fans who travelled over to France and were such good company.

[@jle42]

Dont forget against Wales too. We really buy them all, linesmen, tmos, refs, maybe we also buy opposing teams kickers and I wonder how much we paid Sam Cane. Yikes. In all seriousness, sometimes the excuses and blame-game and unsubstantiated claims esp online gets tiring.

[@Burninglash]

RG wasn't dirty, just hard. It's very unfortunate that he fell the way he did.

[@jonathancrowther4565]

You didn't see how RG did a sneaky headbutt (bakkies Botha style) and then press down on Casey's face/neck as he stood up?

[@Burninglash]

@jonathancrowther4565 he did no such thing. I watched it he hit mid chest height. Legal tackle on the person playing the ball. It was also reviewed by TMO. No sanction.

[@RealAfricanDude]

​@@jonathancrowther4565TMO would have picked that up and a video would have already been made of it. You're talking nonsense.

[@jonathancrowther4565]

@@RealAfricanDude where's your dog mate?

[@dandreehlers9817]

​@@jonathancrowther4565mate just shut up ur talking a bunch of shite

[@mungoblizzard6114]

12:10 their under 20s got destroyed by Argentina Edit: They also lost to England and OUT of the WC under 20

[@vjmightyw]

BAFANA COACH, THATS WHY

[@Steve-gr6jm]

​@@vjmightyw What's a banana coach?

[@vjmightyw]

@@Steve-gr6jm Bafana is the soccer coach

[@ianhamilton530]

Could we discuss the ref tho......while I accept that it's a tough job but this guy is like a biology teacher that refrains from sex with his boyfriend

[@djbozeman2131]

Eeeeerrrrr SA and UK seasons are now similar with URC ,,,,Champions cup etc. No more excuses of long season / tired players 😆

[@user-pk5pr8rv4g]

Actually we play Rugby Championship while Euro players are on summer holidays

[@Gorilladome4664]

There is no way RG knew that the ball was gone...look at the video, his head was down into the tackle...that's not a factual thing to say.

[@paulcostello1807]

Rg slapped the ball away himself

[@robertpatterson8437]

First line hurts my ears 🤣 the front row was horrible!

[@commentwell3870]

I think with SA leading 27-13 at the end, the game was pretty much over as a contest. Where Ireland sliced through like a knife through butter to score, it was already all over.

[@stephendoherty981]

What's your point? SA were gifted a 14 point swing with those ridiculous TMO decisions. All ifs, buts, maybes. That's sport.

[@CF-lg8jd]

Maybe, but it was never 27 - 13, and at 70 mins it was far from over

[@RealAfricanDude]

​@@stephendoherty981They were correct decisions. If only SA could have had correct decisions at Aviva stadium back in '22, Ireland's forward pass before their try would have made a difference.

[@dandreehlers9817]

​@@stephendoherty981 yes it was😂😉keep telling yourself sunshine...the refs followed all proticols and if its on field there needs to be 100% evidence...if u cant see louw right hand u cant say 100%...also knee on ground=plqyer on ground...thats why whe a player is tackled and his knee is on the ground the tackler must release😂and the doris non try is clear as day so idk what game u watched mate(from a scot)

[@chipperjaunte]

It never was

[@mitakon21]

Osborne played phckn well, one of the best on the pitch😊

[@kev63inuk]

Use to love Andy Goode doing his Borthwick impression. But the boy Borthwick outdoing Farrell ,Razor and Rassie . Farrell and Borthwick had words at half time as Farrell knew he’d been done , and be good to hear Andy’s impression of Rassie panicking in the first half of the World Cup. Only saying this as I thought Jim and Andy would be discuassing England . 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@xavierbrown4250]

Borthwick only done farrel so far. Keep calm fella.

[@davesmith826]

Outdoing Rassie and Razor? He's played one game against both and lost both times, albeit in very tight games. The real reason for the change in fortunes in England this year is the arrival of Felix Jones from the Boks. He's an elite coach who is tailor-made for England. The next 6N will be very, very interesting.

[@jonathanmaguire1198]

It was a real scumbag move the ball was long gone and then the South Africans played music and started dancing when the poor guy was out cold. I can’t believe the South Africans celebrated that.

[@2cool4school4ever]

July DeLight!! ☘️😊💯Especially as D Ref/TMO gave us nothing. Gave SA ‘3’ for THEIR knock on. FFS. Also Lost some respect for SA claiming ‘Obstruction’ by throwing Dselves at ☘️ players. Not soccer ⚽️. #classless Only as good as your last game sooo we just beat the Double WC winners, at home ☺️🙌 G’wan the lads! ☘️

[@seannorris7993]

For RG it was about putting the scrummie on the deck.

[@francoisverdoes8552]

Love the show

[@SamWashkansky]

With all respect to Ireland, the SA franchise have played as many URC and EPCR games the difference is that Ireland played the 6 nations, but Leinster managed their players, their key players played +/-80% of the games. wrt the Casey tackle, rugby is a contact sport, it's not tiddlywinks.

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

Six nations is significantly different to URC etc . Significantly. It’s not tiddlywinks but RG didn’t even try check on him and the dj hyping the crowd up. DISGRACEFUL

[@andilemthana6614]

​@Sineadmcd you crying about lady sat? Durban will be a meat grinder!😂😂😊

[@SmcdMcd-d2k]

@@andilemthana6614 so you agree? You think a crowd hyping up a player who is on the ground unconscious is cool? No wonder most of the world requires visas for you lot to enter their country. Actual animals

[@christopherodonovan]

While the front row move was class. Our Set piece is just a problem and it's a problem a team like SA will just demolish. Exactly like when the bomb squad came on

[@pietervandyk4417]

You forgot about depth. Bokke can play 12 months of Rugby.

[@theruffiankj4164]

We Irish must stop moaning. We're still the best team in the world. It's good for us to lose occasionally, even if it was to a Saffa team that actually wasn't that good.

[@Steve-gr6jm]

What's this "we" business? Cos you're not from here lad

[@kennethsnodgrass2607]

Best team in the world haha on the floor here. How many world cups do you have?

[@Steve-gr6jm]

@@kennethsnodgrass2607 He's about as Irish as you are my African friend.

[@Levis2Brodie]

Typical Irish fan always doesn't give credit where it's due. I'm glad you're always getting knocked out in the quarter final you bloody chokers!

[@stiofain88]

12:08 They're coming third in their group?

[@stiofain88]

And now they're out.

[@morneviljoen4789]

That was the front row showing a prime example of subtle obstruction.

[@daviiidoff]

No obstruction there everyone ran their dummy lines

[@morneviljoen4789]

@@daviiidoff dummy lines???🤣🤣🤣 You can "dummy line" all you want, when you impede a player it's called obstruction.

[@paulcrosland6693]

@@morneviljoen4789spot on, Steenkamp was obstructed. TMO was getting nervous about any more interruption as was Pearce

[@johanstruwig3815]

I agree. Exactly what I thought. Obstruction is obstruction...

[@olmecking1]

Bar 1 scrum, ireland had the upper hand in the scrums

[@davidwalker2402]

Scrums were 100% for both teams . Your bomb squad was a mess and Ireland scored 4 tries when they came on 2 disallowed but could have gone anyway and why , because your defense was tired and all over the place. Bomb squad is nothing but a scare tactic and it didn’t work in France and it didn’t work last Saturday…

[@johnarmstrong6940]

Clearly there were at least 2 dominant scrums by SA, both penalties, 1 led to a try by Kolbe and the other a penalty try. Ireland only got free kicks because they never took the hit and the ref bought it. Due to multiple free kicks, one turned into a long arm penalty. They never actually won a contest scrum and they knew they wouldn’t.

[@Gen.Khodakovsky]

@@davidwalker2402The result speaks for itself

[@jadenphilander8799]

Ireland didnt even engage or go in for the hit, Porter literally pulls Malherbe down and Bend down...Thats no dominance, thats getting away with cheating.

[@jasonmunday2743]

​@@davidwalker2402 😂😂😂😂 that's why we have the best scrum in the world 😂

[@xpat73]

Snyman was offside when he tackled Casey. That was the problem. I don;t have a problem with the tackle itself.

[@declanvanderwalt5041]

sure bud

[@Nee815]

ok👍

[@Nee815]

27-20.

[@xpat73]

@@Nee815 you won at home by 7 at altitude. Lowe gifted you 14 points. I wouldn't be too pleased. You created nothing. Defense was good though.

[@declanvanderwalt5041]

@@xpat73 scoreboard. The opening try came from a back line ball, how did we create nothing yet score on the outside?

[@steveoconnor522]

Well..

[@davidwalker2402]

Well Osborne played 15 and was one of the best players on the field , and Ireland showed just how good they are even if they had to use their 3rd and 4th choice scrum half. You couldn’t see them win because you still cannot admit just how good Ireland are.

[@Stain-u9t]

Non-springboks in Europe are more valuable in play than perineal boks tbh

[@johnnoonan4799]

Jesus these guys played the game which is more concerning for me..analysis is like something you would hear at a junior match sideline

[@user-bd8fx3ip5g]

People can bleat all the want. RG Snyman on that little scrummie wasn't close to CJ stander in an Ireland shirt ending Pat Lambies career with tackle at his throat. That's a clean tackle he's done. What did Ireland expect? Mouthing off about being number 1 when you not. They going to get a Loftus welcome. You wanted the Boks. You got them. What now? Now you whining because you lost. Loosers.

[@amantedellopera1681]

The boks were better,but they didnt destroy us like all their posters were saying they would do,only a 7 point win,could have gone either way,with injuries we havent a hope this saturday,just hope for no more injuries,and a better ref,but dont think dickson will be great for either team

[@GBNE-kh1fs]

I don’t like the way Snyman aims to hurt - I’ve seen him do it several times. I’m all for hard play and proper contact, but unsporting dog shots are not the way.

[@andilemthana6614]

Change sport pal. You haven't seen anything yet, Durban will be a meat grinder!

[@willemsteyn7808]

😂😂😂😂😂😂it is in our DNA to fuck up physically.

[@bigowenzy3397]

Ya like your economy, you really fucked that up

[@bwana4711]

He’s just bringing back the spirit of Bakkies. Rugby is an aggressive sport played by dudes who have a beer afterwards.

[@paulcostello1807]

​@@andilemthana6614surely not surely not Mega City One meat grinder

[@darrellw.matodes6898]

And...the same team...and same men...Will be there in Durban. (No injuries) Same team. Ireland will be in trouble in Durban. Boks will improve 50%.

[@gigtimes]

Sorry but saying Tony Brown made such a difference is stretching things. This whole thing about springboks playing only one way is SUCH a heap of .... For YEARS now they have NOT been one dimensional, otherwise you would have to kick out Pollard, Am, Arendse, Kolbe, etc, etc. Sure Tony will add to their attack but its time to move on. The boks already play a pretty complete game and they are definately not one dimensional since before 2019.

[@enriquenelson7184]

Bro that was not the game-plan of the 2018-2023 Springboks and if you didn't see that then you might not be qualified to comment on the matter.

[@cathalsheehan9596]

Marx is not better than Sheehan, but he’s top class.

[@sandrajansevanvuuren7891]

No different than Itoje trying to bully Faf in every game they play.

[@thereader6667]

England and most of Europe play all year round now if international. So I don’t really make much of that argument, it’s so arbitrary.

[@strekk1486]

Shocking display feom the referees at the weekend. How did they not even relook at the snyman tackle, Ireland got pinged at least twice for coming through innocuously on the scrum half. The James Lowe try ruled out was a disgrace, and what hapoened when Dorris grounding the ball near the end, ref said he saw it held up, he was nowhere near it when Dorris first grounded it.

[@vjmightyw]

Because Casey hit his head first against the referees knee before he whiplashed it against the turf.

[@johanstruwig3815]

So, it should have been 34-13 points in favour of the Irish? The problem is that the game is over and the Boks still won the game.