BRUTALLY RANKING IVE (based on talent)

[@pringles9061]

When I hovered over the video I was shocked to see Wonyoung in 6th place, but listening to your explaination it makes sense! Wonyoung's persona and her visuals make her an amazing idol but this video made me realise where her weaknesses lie. I loved this ranking and how clearly you explained everything, I learned a lot :)

[@shinxyeon5599]

Nahh, liz is great, but yujin should be the first. She has the best sp, wrote songs, amazing dancer and also a very good vocalist.

[@kristamxs]

liz has done like all of these things

[@daiz9875]

Um no way Liz surpassed Yujin right? Yujin is their top 2 in both vocals and dance, and is the best performer. I don’t think anyone who knows them well would ever come to that ‘unbiased’ conclusion 😂

[@Asaph006]

But then no matter how talented of a singer you are if the song is bad nothing can save you 💀 and for a fact IVE has no bad song.

[@ARIA_Jihyo_Jennie_Chaewon]

i think this is incredibly accurate and just harsh enough, honest but not rude. Also i think ppl forget abt s.p so thx for mentioning it. Also liz #1 is so real, all rounder even IF she did lack anywhere her singing would compensate

[@crazerrazer6778]

That's not what an all rounder is. An all rounder is someone who can sing, dance, and rap very well. (i.e. Yena/Chaeyeon from IZ*ONE)

[@ifoundtheimposter1652]

FOR REAL people don't recognise liz's dance skills she's top.3 best dancers in IVE and best vocalist in her group AND HER STAGE PRESENCE IS AMAZINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG we just need ti hear her rap but she deserves no.1

[@ParkHwanHwi]

My Opinion: 1.Yujin -she is the main dancer of the group & she is the strongest dancer in ive (imo) -she can sing!! she now can support as in Low Weak -& she can rap 😮 -she have a strongest stage presence too & can write lyrics too 2.Liz -she is the strongest vocal in the group & she can be a lead dancer too 3.Gaeul -she 2nd dancer & 2nd rapper & 4th vocalist & have amazing stage presence 4.Rei -she is the main rapper & 3rd vocalist & she not bad in dance 5.Leeseo -she so underrated, 3rd dancer, 3rd rapper but she is the weakest vocalist in the group & her stage presence a bit forced 6.Wonyoung -she have amazing voice tone but not strong, her dance are average, she can rap a little & have amazing stage presence

[@wonyoungloveshers]

5:05 i’m sorry but was it NECESSARY to bring sakura into this? I thought this vid was about IVE?

[@kunpunko]

it’s just a comparison.. stop being so sensitive

[@wonyoungloveshers]

@@kunpunko yeah thats the problem, some people just can’t compliment idols without comparing them with one another. Sensitive my ass omds

[@z3nk1n47]

womp womp

[@wonyoungloveshers]

@@z3nk1n47 womp womp

[@Jungwonie3]

@@kunpunkoyou don’t have to bring someone down to uplift someone it’s not being sensitive it’s having empathy about how the other person would feel if they saw this

[@TheGameware]

Imo I'd say 6th - Gaeul - whilst a great dancer, and a decent rapper, her vocals have a lot to still be desired. She relies heavily on nasal twang/head voice, usually a combination of the two, which is good technique, but I'd rank wonyoung a tiny bit higher due to several factors. 5th- Wonyoung - Wonyoung has come a long way as a vocalist since her time in IZ*ONE, as someone who has been following since Violeta era it's been amazing to see her growth, and she's showcasing some great technique and range, especially in the more recent cbs (HEYA and Off The Record especially, she's really impressed me.) I also disagree with the comments made about engagement of the diaphragm, in the after like clips especially you can hear she's engaging her diaphragm and even more so in recent songs - she still has a lot of room to grow and she's not to a main vocal standard but she's definitely good. Her dancing is also still good, and she's a good rapper even though she's not done any that i know of in IVE. Plus her stage presence is something else. 4th - Leeseo - Leeseo has impressed me with her vocals, and she's a good enough dancer as well. Her raps are also pretty good, such as in HEYA, so for me she's 4th 3rd - Rei - I agree with the video for this, Rei, whilst not a very confident vocalist (such as missing the high note on Eleven encore stages) she still demonstrates great support and stability, and her vocals are refreshing. Her raps are amazing too 2nd - Liz - the biggest point of disagreement in this video. Liz is undeniably the best vocalist in IVE, but Yujin isn't to be underestimated. Her dance skills are nowhere close to Yujin's level, and her rap I'm not sure. 1st - Yujin - easily the strongest in IVE, with incredible vocals rivalling Liz's and dance skills that rival Gaeul. Plus she can rap. Yuijn was one of the big all rounders, in both IZ*ONE and IVE., and her talent seems to just keep growing

[@TheGameware]

@seuluvr My personal opinion, you could switch wonyoung to 6th and gaeul to 5th but leeseo is better as an all rounder than gaeul, i explained my reasons

[@TheGameware]

@seuluvr see i'd disagree, leeseo definitely can sing, she's better than rei and gaeul, probably wonyoung too. Her rapping in the most recent TT was also really good, and considering she's the youngest she also had the most potential to grow, so eventually she might even end up ranking higher if she keep training hard.

[@laorskis]

@@TheGamewareleeseo is objectively the worst singer in the group. nobody besides liz can support, but everyone BUT leeseo has shown potential to support or have supported some notes.

[@TheGameware]

@@laorskis Two very incorrect statements - liz is not the only one who can support, yujin also can, as she is almost on the same level as liz plus has more experience. Leeseo is most definitely not the worst vocalist, Rei and Gaeul are both weaker, as shown in live stages, leeseo has a better range than both, supports her vocals well with breath and doesn't rely too much on nasal twang, Rei avoided singing a note in Eleven encores as it was too high, and both her and gaeul have nasally tones and rely on it too much. All personal opinion but I've had years of vocal training and IMO on a technical level, leeseo is definitely a better vocalist and at her age she has a lot more potential to improve as well.

[@GOATfox5]

@@TheGamewareI respect your opinion but please don’t use “definitely” when comparing leeseo and Rei cause there’s definitely arguments for both sides. Also it would help if you didn’t use examples from the eleven era. Seems a bit outdated don’t you think 😂

[@Unknownandbyes]

Idk but this video ranking biased snd honestly bullshit cuase this is brutally false ranking You should prioritize vocal >Rap> Dance > stage presence So it'll be 1. Yujin ( all rounder ) 2. Liz ( Best vocalist among them ) 3. Rei ( solid rap , decent vocal ) 4. Leeseo ( hidden all rounder) 5. Wonyoung ( acknowledging her won't be good girlie debuted in 13/14 she has more experience. She knows idol quality , has decent skills in dancing and her vocal has improved potentially so dhe should be 5 ) 6. Gauel ( Definitely best dancer among them her vocal isn't weak but there isn't much enough materials to rank higher than other members. Good rap but ok vocal but needs more character and quality improvement. Support range is important but more important is quality)

[@liaaa612]

I agree with all but i would say that yujin is more of a all-rounder than liz. Liz's voice is better but if we are talking sp,dance,writer and overall skills. first place should go to yujin as shes more eye-catching than liz is!

[@ifoundtheimposter1652]

That's your opinion, you did not have to add the last bit

[@wiveone]

8:22 the silence when they danced to hype boy 😭

[@Lizzy_edit.animeykpop]

1.Yujin 2.Rei 3.Liz 4.Gaeul 5.Wonyoung 6.Leeseo

[@kxnz7]

I think this ranking is too vocal-oriented. In terms of dance and Stage Presence, Yujin is definitely #1

[@carinelaberge5352]

Vocally I don't disagree but if we take dancing and stage presence into account Yujin takes first no contest.

[@fribunnie]

5:06 was it necessary to bring down sakura? This videos about Ive

[@aerisvrse]

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[@Winterr3-yy]

From illit vid, i'm not even suprised they will add some unnecessary things on their *BRUTAL* opinion

[@Freckles-hq4jh]

Yes

[@Cupidador]

1. yujin - great vocalist, dancer, performer, etc. 2. liz - AMAZING vocalist, like truly one of my faves ever! good idol dancer, performer, etc. 3. rei - completing the "holy trinity" of ive's vocal line is rei who is a growing vocalist who shows good signs of pitch and inotation, great rapper and decent dancer 4. wonyoung - A LOT of her popularity is clearly bc of her visuals but she's a seasoned idol that uses her strengths to her advantage 5. leeseo - a very young vocalist with a lot of room for improvement but she's got time and passion which is really good! 6. gaeul - a weak rapper, weak singer, but strong dancer. not much to say here, her company is pushing her as a rapper and neglecting her vocals which is apparent.

[@atmybest4980]

bro though gaeul is a weak singer but she is not a weak rapper n if you consider ive as a group shes clearly 2nd best rapper even as whole yujin and liz and nothing infront of other vocalists n she is best dancer n starship already showcased her vocals in various songs ...reset is a good example n in ive switch they literally made her a vocalist showing that she can sing in her range she clearly is a better dancer and rapper than leeseo and has great sp

[@Cupidador]

@@atmybest4980 which is amazing!! and i hope starship uses her dancing abilities to showcase heras more of a performer rather than a lead rapper as ive's songs don't really need rapping fr

[@Cupidador]

@@atmybest4980 yujin has already surpassed her as a dancer, i’m not saying gaeul is talentless, just being marketed strangely by her company

[@xomasjw]

this is only based on vocals or else yujin would be first

[@knalysis]

i think yujin has amazing dance ability but i think liz has also grown as a dancer and is a stronger writer on top of playing instruments and being the best vocalist

[@xomasjw]

@@knalysis yujin has also better stage presence and she has leading skills. she deserves the first spot

[@hallooos7585]

@@xomasjwYeah Yujin has the best stage presence in 4th gen

[@kikiiyuu]

@@knalysis we havent had songwriter liz at all, though. shes number 4 if were ranking dance, and yujin would be number 2 or 1 in dance.. yujin wrote a song, heroine. better sp, better rap, duality, so yeah, i disagree that liz is most talented. no hate to liz tho.

[@kritika8017]

​@@kikiiyuu there is a HUGE difference between their vocal abilities, liz is a much much better vocalist. and as for dancing, their skills aren't that far away from each other. and idk where u got "yujin is a better rapper" from? because she isn't a rapper, neither is liz. "duality" isn't a talent again. liz also wrote a song for their full album but it didn't get selected. and as for sp, it is subjective to everyone's tastes.

[@spheksophobiaurinal]

i think rei does have vibrato, actually she is the only member besides yunjin and liz that i have noticed some vibrato

[@izzysplanet69]

this isn’t accurate at all

[@misterleft240]

"brutally ranking" then proceeds to give an average biased ranking🤐

[@bobbobbycarl7698]

So how should it have been like according to u 😭

[@freemanhrt]

so did you see the beginning of the video with the disclaimer or not

[@misterleft240]

@@freemanhrt i did. my problem is that, it is not actually brutal but biased, it failed to give a thorough analysis of the girls skill. thus, defeats the purpose of being a "brutal" ranking

[@vavrie]

I think Yujin rapped a bit in produce 48? In the very very very performance?

[@alexleisdabest1602]

You went from reasonable( not brutal ) to being a hater and prioritizing skills over others. Please use constructive criticism and not hate

[@y0urfav_asian]

why does the youtube chapter say "Liso" 😭😭 instead of Leeseo

[@Kiara-f6e]

0:42 girl bffr you removed the music and she is NOT talk singing

[@From_is9]

typical wonyoung defenders 😔

[@Fivepreppygirls]

@@From_is9fr

[@jeffer-ip5ze]

PLZ do NMIXX NEXT🙏🙏

[@gaeulponytail_]

i agree with wonyoung, ppl who said that she's a great dancer in iz*one in order to invalidate criticisms about her dancing in her current group is kinda not it. thanks to her stage presence though.

[@danipanfu]

That endingg lmaoo 😂🤣

[@taffilee6527]

brought in sakura for no reason...the obsession is showing! weirdowwww...

[@knalysis]

ive actually been defending lesserafim despite their current hate train, i simply used sakura as an example because we all know shes not the best singer

[@gaeulponytail_]

so everyone's obsessed with IVE then cause they've been using IVE as an example of lipsyncing 😂😂😂

[@maluteas]

@@knalysisyou still brought up sakura for no reason, and she’s literally improved since Coachella anyway

[@kunpunko]

“obsession” and it’s just bringing them up as a comparison. kpop stan’s stop being so defensive and sensitive challenge

[@kunpunko]

@@maluteasno.. she has not.

[@Ari-dn9uh]

you should do purple kiss

[@AreuTriggered]

I 100 percent agree. Wonyoung for some reason is the most popular but it the least talented member. I don't understand it 😂

[@ela9344]

NEW JEANS NEXT!

[@theawkwardamateurpotato6134]

I totally agree with this ranking.

[@pov5243]

Can you do Nmixx next please?

[@chaerinii._]

Can you do YOUNG POSSE next?

[@vanvangogh]

Genuine question tho. As an K-pop idol is stage presence, good vocal tone also considered talent? cause i know some idols who still lacking at those (or even don't have at all)

[@ORIGINAL_BTS_ARMY]

Personally I think Wooyoung has amazing vocals and should rank 3 … (not being biased as you can see I didn’t give her the first neither the second spot at all.)

[@Fivepreppygirls]

Rei is pretty good at vocal and rapping 😊

[@stellabbunny]

you should do aespa !!

[@BP-tm6ye]

it well be 1.karina 2. winter 3. ningning 4. giselle

[@kajulattesir904]

This dumb, look at their overall line disterbution. That's the order as much as you wish otherwise

[@Xoxowonniee]

Actually I think Wonyoung is just visual that’s it I am gald my bias is on top of the list

[@eoe9w99w9wsk]

Wony the best lyricist in ive , has great stage presence, has good rap(watch her before debut rap),can play piano violin and flute

[@hollyglimmer3486]

You can’t have bias if you don’t like all members, you’re just akgae

[@kittyplays417]

Wonnie has the best stage presence and songwriting skills in Ive she was the lead dancer in izone and her vocals have improved sooo much and she also showed some rapping potential

[@AnnoDomini-j5l]

And you have her as your pfp, the obsession is crazy

[@duodou8648]

Apology from the wonhee comment when?

[@knalysis]

ive already apologized for it

[@AreuTriggered]

Finally! Someone acknowledges how talented Liz is as an all arounder. She really is the most talented member of the group. Yujin is a bit overrated...not to take away from her hard work. But she honestly does too much just like wonyoung sometimes

[@Fivepreppygirls]

I don’t think Liz a all rounder I didn’t see her rep yet you I mean but she’s good at dancing and really good at singing