BRUTE (Halo) vs. KROGAN (Mass Effect) | Who Would Win?

It's the Krogan of Mass Effect vs the Brutes of Halo on today's episode of Who Would Win!
Today's video will have two rounds: round 1, and unarmed/unarmoured battle and round 2, a brute chieftan vs a Krogan Battlemaster
The Krogan, including Grunt and Wrex, are a species of lizard aliens from the Mass Effect Trilogy; while the Brutes, including Atriox and Tartarus, otherwise known as the Jiralhanae, are the frontline foot soldiers of the Covenant from the Halo trilogy.
Halo vs Mass Effect... Krogan vs Brutes... Lizards vs Gorillas... Who would win? Find out today!
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[@EckhartsLadder]

If this video does well y'all can expect another vs episode soon!

[@DimoB8]

EckhartsLadder do a star wars starship vs! For old time's shake!

[@cyruspink6217]

EckhartsLadder you better do another vs episode

[@randomguy-lf6vk]

EckhartsLadder yes please

[@fledthehunter5293]

HALO 2 sniper jackal vs ????

[@CompactCowboy]

FLED THE HUNTER LK vs the literal entire 40k universe. The sniper jackals will still win.

[@the_bohemian4536]

A hairy boi vs a scaley boi

[@aperson1938]

BXOTROT ___ both angry bois

[@Azrael_Equinox]

Big bois

[@dr.boring7022]

Intelligent bois

[@matrimalviarin5043]

Self-destructive bois

[@Dquags]

hairy boi

[@Cryogenius333]

"I dont think they have the same singleminded fury midbattle as a Brute..." Grunt: I AAMMM KROOOOOOOGAAAAAAAANNN!!!!

[@GoldenDragonMonkey]

Wow It only just occured to me right here that Krogans look like 8 foot tall Grunts…

[@clandorangaming]

Eckhart is great for Star Wars lore, but this?? This just made me laugh! As if some escaped zoo exhibit could beat a Krogan in unarmed combat is hilarious. Maybe in a foot-race, but not a fight on any level. xD

[@dozergames2395]

@@clandorangaming I kinda bet on the brutes to their bigger stronger and durable in their own right. It's not a stomp either way but the un-biotic krogan is at a large disadvantage

[@clandorangaming]

@@dozergames2395 "durable in their own right" yes, but they can be paralyzed, a Krogan can't be. A Krogan also has a fairly rapid healing rate due to having more than one circulatory system to pump blood where it needs to go when physically injured, Brutes don't. A Brutes rage is literally just them losing control of their temper, a Krogans battle-rage is a chemical reaction that can be intentionally triggered during a fight that shoots a lot of natural pheromones and stuff through their bodies. Brutes lose on all sides when more than a cursory glance is done for research.

[@dozergames2395]

@@clandorangaming no because they base on all Canon I've seen and read they are bigger stronger and faster Kogan are more durable and I'd say on average smarter or real better at using reason in a fight A brutes rage does all the same shit you know pumping them full of all the good shit the body craves they just don't get a boost to regeneration Again it's close but the brute on average no biotics involved controls more aspects of the fight I believe either can win the brute just holds more cards

[@QuantumAscension1]

Best Mass Effect quote from Wrex: “That’s why I like hanging out with you guys! Why shoot something once when you can shoot it 46 more times!”

[@alexejvecera6317]

When dose he say it?

[@TazyBaby]

@@alexejvecera6317 the citadel dlc I think

[@someguy9737]

To be fair that's only a dlc quote, still a top tier line though

[@justafaniv1097]

You can fight like a Krogan, run like a leopard, but you'll *never* be better than Commander Shepard.

[@kerninjathefrog6569]

Justafan IV oh shit i remember this but i don't remember where its from

[@greaterhalo0659]

I'm better then Shepard

[@26th_Primarch]

Master Chief Petty Officer John-S117 Sir yes you are sir!

[@maxstark4744]

It's the Commander Shepard Song by Miracle of Sound

[@mullerpotgieter]

Kerninja the Frog Miracle of Sound. He's made some incredible songs since then

[@whisperingcrown591]

A lot of the stuff Shepard does to krogans is purely plot Armour. Krogans in Canon are shown to lift hundreds of pounds with no effort, tossing them to the side like rag dolls. Standard fire arms do little to them as well, many lore settings saying that extremely heavy weapons are required to take down even a single krogan.

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

Also keep in mind that in mass effect 2 onwards shepherd is a cyborg with bullet resistant skin, ceramic grafted to his bones and synthetic muscles fibers amplifying his musculature. But you also have to remember that plasma weapons and needles are super scary too. In lore a near miss from a plasma rifle will give you 3rd degree burns if your just an average marine, and a direct hit on flesh will cause 4th degree burns Ala the entire arm or limb is incinerated. A needler shard exploding in your gut will shred organs like confetti. A single overcharged plasma pistol melted through Linda's mjolnir armor and basically killed her until she got the shepard treatment from halseys since John shoved her in cryo until she could get proper medical attention. So even in round 2 if the brute is using a plasma weapon like a brute plasma rifle or even a fuel rod gun he has a very good chance of killing that krogan as biotic and kinetic barriers do not protect against extremes of temperature as stated in the codex. So if the brute gets a direct hit with a fuel rod gun on the battlemaster he had a very good chance of incinerating that krogan. In ghosts of onyx Holly in her spi suit leaped in front of Kelly and took a direct hit from a fuel rod cannon (albeit from a hunter wich is way more powerful) and she got incinerated completely, the only thing that remained was 2 blacked boot prints on the ground. In that same battle will 043 in his mark 6 armor took a direct hit from a hunters cannon while his shields were up. He wasn't incinerated but the cannon scorched his entire torso armor and melted a hole in his chest. With a plasma rifle the way I see a brute winning is by shooting him in the face in an attempt to melt his helmet and try to blind the krogan by burning out it's eyes but I honestly don't see a brute being intelligent enough to do that I think that's more along the lines of what an elite would try to do. As far as round one unarmored I think is more debatable since krogans are way tougher being able to survive being dismembered for a few minutes and a redundant nervous system but brutes are way stronger because they come from a fairly high gravity world. An angry brute nearly strangled master chief to death in his mark V armor and he described the brutes grip like that of 2 bands of steel around his throat and chief managed to escape the brutes grip by being tactical by shrimping his body and kicking the brutes chest with both feet. And keep In mind that John kicked a Drill Intructer wearing mark III power armor 8 meters away from him while he was training on reach before he received his power armor above chi ceti 4. So that kind of force was required to escape an angry brutes grip. Brutes are pretty ridiculous tbh.

[@PhthaloGreenskin]

Addendum: I can evision a scenario where they both die because in the book mass effect revalation (wich is the prequel to mass effect 1) a krogan battle Master named Skarr is tasked with hunting down kahlee Sanders and I think he flips a mako end over end with his biotic powers although it took him a few moments to gather that energy. So I can image the Brute fires his fuel rod cannon and as the blast hits the krogan uses its biotic abilities and flings the Brute chieftain into the side of a building. If you give the brute a gravity hammer thiers a 0% chance of him winning because he'll never get within Melee range before he's atomized by a warp throw combo.

[@Nollic15]

Yep, the mass effect books are good at detailing how hard it is to kill a krogan, definitely worth a read.

[@eternalfox1714]

You cannot forget about the brute leaders from the banished like atriox, decimes, voridius and pavium they I'm pretty sure atriox, decimus and voridius would have no problem killing a krogan each since pavium preferes a grenade launcher so I don't know how strong he is in hand to hand combat

[@LightAndDarkMdness02]

The average brute weighs between 800-1200lbs and can lift multiple times their bodyweight with ease. Brutes don't fuck around. They kill people with hammers that project gravity at them lmao.

[@kiana5066]

For the record, the "strongest, brute-force warrior" from Mass Effect would be a yahg, not a krogan...

[@aaronrodriguez1410]

Yahgs are overpowered. Especially the original shadow broker

[@epiccarrot88]

Personally, I'd still give it to the Krogan. Their hides are too tough. I mean, the codex says the only weapon that can pierce their hide is a molecular blade. Maybe the Yahgs have more physical strength, but not by much, considering the Krogan can lift solid panels of metal. And unlike the Yahg, Krogans have multiple of every organ, so should the Yahg get off a hit, the Krogan could keep going.

[@samg.5165]

@@epiccarrot88 Krogans are resilient, but the difference in physical strength is enormous. There's lifting metal panels, and then there's shattering a huge metal counter with your fist, then hurling one half of it (probably weighing a few tons) across the room, all in the span of like three seconds.

[@gyrmbal7075]

Well the strongest brute force halo character is the hunter goliath

[@TmanTheTdog]

@@gyrmbal7075 Well that’s unless we start bringing Flood forms into the mix (the Silentium Flood in particular)

[@Stratonetic]

Hey next you should do the Sangheilli vs Turians.

[@dr.catherineelizabethhalse1820]

Are turians really that strong? I thought they were human level strong.

[@Stratonetic]

bluebanana Many Elite's have been noted to see Humans as formidable warriors, there's even a report done by spartan Locke detailing how a platoon of marines were allowed to arm themselves as the Sangheilli stood in watch, it was Vel Vadame and this was a show of honor, to not kill an unarmed foe and let them fight for their right to live, so yes, if Turians are like Humans, they are a formidable force.

[@billclark5055]

Trandoshans vs Turians

[@Stratonetic]

Bill Clark Ooo, I like.

[@marcustulliuscicero5443]

Haro Shito I think the Sangheili see humans more as warriors due to their fighting spirit, physically a single elite absolutely stomps even the most fit non-augmented human.

[@HawkTheRed]

before the fight should start, however, I recommend evacuating the entire planet first

[@osets2117]

TheRed Hawk I'm with this guy on that

[@bigb2610]

Claymore Shotguns vs Gravity Hammers. Man I don't know what's worse

[@basudebsarkar5487]

I wouldn't retreat if I am a Spartan 2

[@YoungSlim51]

@@bigb2610 I love the description of the claymore. If you're not a korgan and you don't have augmented limbs your arms will break from the force.

[@noonelikespokimane8924]

Well obviously

[@philipallred9647]

I think you’ve forgotten to factor in the fact that a krogan can live up to a thousand years, so a regular krogan soldier could have hundreds of years of combat experience. So that could help in a hand to hand fight as well as the fact that a mortality wounded krogan enters a blood rage which increases strength and Ferociousness. Though I will concede that they might still lose to a brute like you said.

[@peternash7104]

Odd doesn't feel like hundreds of years of experience when a round hits them in the head. Also there's a fallacy thinking longevity, let's say 2x the battle experience, means you are twice as good in battle. If that's the case wouldn't Humans and Salarians be the worst in Mass Effect? But STG, and N7 clearly produce monsters that contend with the best. It's similar to a old Bruce Lee quote "Doesn't make Perfect; Perfect Practice makes Perfect." Meaning if you are doing something wrong how the hell does it become right if you do it wrong for hundreds of years? You don't do train to do something right, that's impossible. You train so that it's impossible to do something wrong. Also no one wants to talk about the extremely poor and clumsy physiology of the Krogan where they are straight forward and literally lack any flexibility. It looks like if they fall over on their back they'll go full turtle. Given their short legs and arms, and large torso.

[@skokob]

Also he forgot also the krogan populate like rabbits!

[@imapleb4956]

@@peternash7104 You include N7 in what should be the worst. Humans aren’t even close to the shortest living species. Humans and Turians have about the same lifespan and humans had this lifespan before joining the galactic community so this is subject to only become longer. Pretty much every notable species, drell, quarians, volus etc live about maximum 85 years. Salarians live about 40, and Vorcha live 20 years if they even survive that long. Salarians are so good at their job because they have the best technology realistically, and they’re bonafide super autists dude. They die so quickly that they’ve evolved to be able to do as much as they possibly can, and as efficiently as they can in their short life spans. Their intelligence and culture of purely seeking advancement is part of why they’re likely the most independent race and definitely the most independent race on the council. I’m not gonna lecture any further but still dude

[@peternash7104]

@@imapleb4956 I didn't ask for the lecture and clearly I knew what I was talking about. But to suggest that a being that lives for thousands of years, along with the Asari are in a realm of their own, due to 'experience' is faulty. In their own damn universe, not pulling from other fictional universes, Krogan were defeated by a tag team of Turian and Salarian. Salarian built the weapon and Turian was the muscle. Meaning, at least for a time, Turian were more than enough for Krogan. Despite Krogan having overwhelming numbers. Now Krogan are significantly weaker than before and yet somehow Turian's who are like discount Elites is ignored? Nothing signifies they have any of the power, speed, ect. They freaken rip through titanium with ease. And while Shepard headbutting a whine baby one was mostly intended as a joke he was a normal human still shoved one back, sure he'd never win in a fist fight against one but a brute would rip him in half. He needs the tools and equipment. And a vast majority of Krogan do not have shields or good equipment. A vast majority still believe in correlating battle to superior genes that is resistant to the genophage. Living for a thousands years is meaningless if they are unwilling to learn something new, keep doing the same things over and over again. Asari do the same things due to arrogance and tradition, Krogan because they are stubborn, at least Turians adapt faster. Hell even the Hanar talk about breaking away from tradition and trying something new to be apart of the galactic community. All I'm saying is that the OP thousand year thing would work best for something more human not something as mindless as the common Krogan, even Krogan scientist comment how their relatives are stuck with the same faulty mindset.

[@Ivanjumper13]

@@peternash7104 Your mistake was thinking they were "defeated" had the krogan been under one banner like Wrex does at the end of the 3rd game then they Turians and Solarians would never have even made it to Tuchanka. The Krogan beat the Rachni a swarm logic type enemy that over powered and over ran every planet they came across. There is also the argument of the regeneration ability. Garrus a Turian recalled a fight with a Krogan where he would regenerate life ending blows in a few seconds, broken bones don't matter when you regenerate that fast which means the only way the Brute could win in basic hand to hand would be a killing blow to the head. Aka if the Krogan takes a broken arm or leg but still gets a hit in on the Brute its over, the Krogan will simply outlast the Brute due to regeneration. The Brutes are the imbodyment of feral strength the unarmed fight I think will be a toss up but with weapons and training Krogan win hands down.

[@MediocreN7]

The peak warrior for the Krogan is the Krogan Warlord not the Battlemaster. Krogan Warlords are like 10 feet tall and weigh almost a 1000 pounds and can heal injuries in a matter of seconds.

[@edgarruizvelasco3949]

Average brute is 9 ft

[@edgarruizvelasco3949]

And usually can lift 1000 pounds easily.

[@MediocreN7]

@@edgarruizvelasco3949 The average Krogan can lift 1000 pounds pretty easily too.

[@koalaking5511]

@@edgarruizvelasco3949 a warlord in armor is around twice his naked weight, brute prolly still could but not with ease.

[@paddyg3892]

Krogan also have that suicidal "Blood Rage", trait. And they have secondary back up organs. They have a second heart, an entire second set of lungs, regenerative abilities, and FOUR testicles. The Krogan literally would have twice the balls of any Brute. That doesn't factor in that Krogan are far more intelligent and covered in scales and hide. I'm a huge Halo and Mass Effect geek, but I'm fairly certain a Krogan would deal with a Brute.

[@BlackDerek]

Everyone: Now if the Brute has a fuel rod cannon... Me: Looks at the M20 Cain

[@heliosjollywolf9552]

lol the nuke launcher

[@imsusanov2287]

I remember in vanilla Mass effect 2 M20 Cain nuked everyone on the battlefield, including You and your team, if You used it wrong 😂

[@vertigo2604]

When took it on final battle in ME2, I understood why developers made it single-shot, because in other way all boss fights should be too easy

[@Rolog123]

Finally who would win is my favorite content on this channel.

[@olefredrikskjegstad5972]

The way a Krogan Battlemaster fights also works in their favor here. Battlemasters are actually a new sort of Krogan warrior, after their species was hit by the Genophage. The Codex states that "To the Battlemaster, killing is a science" and the idea is that Battlemasters focus on turning themselves into the most lethal, singularly effective and unkillable badasses around, essentially taking a quality approach since quantity isn't an option for them. So in a one-on-one fight like that, my vote goes to the Battlemaster.

[@eternalfox1714]

I know this comment is 3 years old but have you metthe banished?

[@tinamoul]

@@eternalfox1714 What about banished, a Battle master is a biotic god. What is a gravity hammer going to do, when he can tag doll you from meters away.

[@starhammer5247]

@@tinamoul Tartarus' own hammer could do the exact same.

[@gilazuara8255]

@@starhammer5247 his hammer, not him, biotic charge him before he uses it and he is done

[@starhammer5247]

@@gilazuara8255 His hammer seems pretty instant to me. That and the gravity of their homeworld is pretty great so a biotic charge would do about as much as a Spartan charge against a brute. Don't think a Krgoan could stand up to gravity hammer regardless and their armour is a high strength metal and some such as Tartarus, Eshcarum or Atriox have shields.

[@Elevator829]

3:19 in my ME2 playthrough I was wearing the N7 helmet so the headbutt made sense. Here I just imagine shepherds head cracking open on impact with the krogan

[@Warden_Vtel]

A battle that has lasted through the ages. Furries versus Scalies.

[@InevitableVitare]

The most interesting thing about the Krogan is that they have evolutionary traits of a prey species. The wide-side eyes, for instance. Says all you really need to know about Tuchanka.

[@thatdudeinasuit5422]

I'd say one possible reason they are like that is because they are both the apex predator and their own prey Krogans have fought Krogans for millennia throughout their evolution i would assume this would have some effect, also while living on a planet where absolutely everything is out their to kill you it may also be possible this was a defensive mechanism that sprang up in early evolutionary stages and simply hasn't subsided.

[@kyriss12]

@@thatdudeinasuit5422 Or more likely is the fact that on tuchunka everything is prey.

[@someguy9737]

@@thatdudeinasuit5422 have you forgotten kalros? The thresher maw so ancient that it was depicted before the genophage and strong enough to take down a reaper? The thresher maw is the Apex predator of tuchanka. The krogan are the ones to develop technology and space flight.

[@rafabuda0]

Yeah, Tuchanka doesn't mess around, even before the krogan nuked themselves. Kalros is so damn ancient that she predates even the nuclear war and is both strong and smart enough to take down a reaper destroyer. Not to mention that a (currently extinct) animal species that was domesticated by the krogans, the kakilosaur, was completely immune to toxin

[@Thaddios]

Idk, for strength I would point to Mass effect 2 when the tank bred Krogan moves rubble for Shepard, that solid slab probably weighed over a ton...

[@dozergames2395]

I know I'm late but even that feat far below what brutes have done Like useing a warthog as a melee weapon

[@jshrhrgahhuehtnmppl]

@@dozergames2395a krogan could probably do the same thing. correct me if i’m wrong, but didn’t a krogan once completely flip a mako without effort?

[@dozergames2395]

@@jshrhrgahhuehtnmppl i want to say that was with biotics but if im wrong then the strenth is definitly simular

[@White_Wrath]

​​​@@dozergames2395 my answer is going to be biased but killing brutes in legendary is easier than killing krogan on insane difficulty. Krogan also have that stupid regen capability so I'd say krogan are stronger. Idk maybe the weapons in Halo are just way stronger.

[@dontmindme1681]

Wrex and Grunt: "We don't need luck, we have ammo!"

[@haystackbill6187]

Shepard knocked Wrex to the ground for plot reasons, they couldn't have Shepard getting fucked up and destroyed by Wrex when he's the main character. You can't take that seriously in a debate setting about who would win.

[@mistersippi2945]

That’s what I thought too, gameplay decision. Maybe Ashley’s sniper rifle MAYBE, could’ve worked but they just wanted a stand off. Same in ME3 if Wrex is still alive and you choose to keep the Geno phage as is.

[@KuroshiKun]

@@mistersippi2945 Wrex died from that fall he was taking shot after shot and still going

[@KuroshiKun]

In my current playthrough I'm saving mordin so Wrex had to go but I had Ashley kill him from behind and blast him open with a shotgun. Makes more sense lore wise.

[@pokemainiak]

Ultimately, if it can't happen in your universe, it shouldn't happen in your universe.

[@Hanashibi]

I would have made Wrex an INSANE extra boss fight.

[@randomguy-lf6vk]

It's been a while since the last VS episode

[@Jay-629]

Hi random guy

[@randomguy-lf6vk]

sup Jay

[@Azrael_Equinox]

random guy It's like drugz he's addicted to them and he is trying to stop

[@flynnstone3133]

Hello Master Eck, It’s been a while See what I did there

[@Iijjccbb]

random guy and it’s been a while since we’ve seen you in the comments

[@alexisbaz8746]

Actually Brutes are waaay stronger than Spartans, at least 5 to 10 times, when a Brute puts his hands on you it doesn't matter if you are a Spartan or a Elite you are screw.

[@warden-3699]

Idea: do an episode where you describe your “perfect fleet”, with access to ships from Star Wars, Halo, Mass Effect, and/or other sci-fi universes. (35th try)

[@marcustulliuscicero5443]

A fleet consisting fully of Offensive Units

[@connorsherrington7863]

Do the reapers count as ships? Or are they a species? Cause that'd be a big factor when looking at the ME ships

[@aiosquadron]

Mine would have the starfleet and alliance fleet as a support fleet (Both ground as space). Klingon and Elite fleet sphere heading the attack in space. UNSC and Starfleet MACOs as ground infantry. Krogan and Klingon as ground heavies and finally, Planetary Union fleet as recon fleet. (Space). What species in each fleet is just the majority fleet. All small parts of other fleets is in every fleet to combine all strengths and polish out others weakness. Now put this fleet to the test against the Borg, Flood and Reapers fleet combined. Awsome now have a new meaning.

[@aiosquadron]

@@marcustulliuscicero5443 Nope. That would suck. Big time. Because once the offensive line are broken, you'll be finished off.

[@alexisbaz8746]

With those you write there i take a full Forerunner fleet, they just outclas anything in Mass Effect or Star Wars, even a lot of ships in Warhammer 40k

[@thatdudeinasuit5422]

To some extent I think when you look at the Krogans abilities you could almost call them Mass Effect's Space Marines. Incredibly strong, long lives have redundant organs and heal wounds quickly, came to the galaxy's rescue in a time of colossal need and were originally colossal in numbers but due to a catastrophic event had to be reduced down to a few.

[@Jhonkotar217]

Okey, ésto es sin duda muy interesante

[@im2randomghgh]

I don't think krogan are quite as strong as brutes but I think you may have sold their strength a tiny bit short! I'll have to check but I remember a krogan tossing an armoured human about 30ft in their air in one of the comics! Stronger than just big humans. Excellent video though! I was starting to miss these :)

[@braydenjewell]

I kinda feel like it's a hard comparison, Krogan are talked up and talked about but due to the mass effect engine and cheesy cutscenes, you never actually get to see them use there powers in a realistic way. like yeah shepard smacked him out, but grunt also jumped in to a shuttle and basically knocked it out of the sky. their strength is never really displayed in any great way due to the limitations of the games engine. where as in the Halo world we are able to physically see more of how the Brutes actually operate and conduct themselves and their physiology

[@braydoxastora5584]

I would say the writing rather than the games engine. Also pretty sure grunt is a test tube super soldier

[@KatamuroTheFirst]

@@braydoxastora5584 he isn't technically. He is the best of krogan but his abilities are not enhanced beyond that. he isn't even biotic. He is just top 0.01% of krogan population physically. But yeah writing is not exactly consistent. Plus gameplay varies a lot by game. They would be extremely hard to beat in game if they reflected their codex entry accurately

[@cpob2013]

do brutes even have redundant organs or are they just big monkey people? a krogan can keep thrashing with a gaping hole in its brain

[@irishdrunk525]

@@braydoxastora5584 wrex our best boi krogan fat ass jumped on a shuttle in me3 and made that bitch land. He wasn't up high, he didn't hit anything crucial he just landed on the roof. So the grunt comparison still works.

[@White_Wrath]

Yeah but as Master Chief I can beat up brutes with my plasma pistol and I mean beat up not shoot. So it's the same issue with both.

[@robertwesolowski2383]

A brute (halo). Vs an ork (40k)

[@grimslayer8499]

Robert Wesolowski DAKA DAKA DAKA DAKA DAKA DAKA DAKA!!!!

[@SirSpangler]

Yea... an Ork Warboss is capable of going us against space marines. And a space marine is basically Master Chief turned up to 11. I love Halo, but those poor brutes would get stomped.

[@pinhead2922]

Cameron Spangler not all space marines match the skill master chief does It's called propaganda lots of space marines die easily

[@grimslayer8499]

Pin Head No they do not because the Emperor protects them from any harm

[@pinhead2922]

Grimslayer and Cortana protects chief :)

[@BODLive08]

Krogan all day. Brutes can brag about strength, but Krogan live for centuries and are battle hardened warriors to the core. They would destroy the brutes in a year

[@cpob2013]

hell, the geth could conquer the entire halo galaxy and be bored doing it. he really doesnt know much about mass effect lore.

[@AlmightyAetius]

Yeah it kinda bugs me when he compares stuff to mass effect. He doesn’t really know the lore that well. Hell even in the ME2 you see a tank bred reject krogan lift a metal wall that would probably way a couple thousand pounds. And he’s only been alive for about a week

[@starhammer5247]

@@cpob2013 That is incredibly wrong. The Geth aren't that big of a threat compared to some of the shit in Halo, the Covenant would make relatively short work of them, and the UNSC's smart AI would effectively delete them when it comes to a cyberspace battle. Cortana, for example, was able to master how forerunner structures work pretty damn quickly while the Geth were tricked by a different AI. The UNSC and Covenant ships are also pretty massive compared to anything in Mass Effect. Some medium ships are a kilometre on average, their largest being close to six or more, while the Covenant is close to ten. Meanwhile, the largest ships in the Alliance and Turian navy's is only one kilometre. Some things in Mass Effect outclass Halo, but it would never win against the other stuff in Halo.

[@cominguponinfra-red3038]

Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (277th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*

[@orcatwar9810]

don't give up

[@scipio7994]

orc at war 98 yea don't I wanna see this

[@koyjosh94]

Id say replicators cause most use lasers or energy weapons in the star wars universe.

[@SirSpangler]

coming up on infra-red Have you tried suggesting this on Eckhart"s discord channel? The people over there seem to influence his videos more-so than us poor youtubers.

[@distelmarc]

That would be pretty interesting. I think it would play out similarly to the flood vs the SWU. if caught early, they would get annihilated easy. However, if they go unnoticed for a time or greatly underestimated in the first few engagements, they would solidly win, mostly through adaptation and attrition.

[@sleepygryph]

I'd have to give it to the Krogan. One of the reasons, besides plot armor, that spartans beat brutes has a lot to do with experience or measured violence without the savagery of the brutes. Successful Krogan have centuries of experience to draw on when they fight especially if you're going to bring in battle masters and warlords. Throw in the tech and it's not even a competition.

[@dungeonguy88]

Yeah, I'd say one of the biggest disadvantages for the Brutes is that they often eschew technology or subtlety, and often rely on being given technology that is complimentary to their abilities. While Krogan are violent and brutish, they also generally fight smart and are more capable of using every tool at their disposal.

[@Slender_Man_186]

Well no, the Brutes were a space fairing civilization, before they accidentally nuked themselves back to pre-industrial. They’re fairly smart, probably about as smart as humans considering how we’ll likely end up much like them to an extent. When you do consider the equipment they’ve been given, a Brute War Chieftain with a fuel rod canon would dominate no matter what, the shields and fire power. Brutes during the tail end of the war especially were surprisingly calm, only berserking as a last ditch effort when their armor is gone and their allies are too.

[@dungeonguy88]

@@Slender_Man_186 It's strange to see so many people bringing up the fuel rod cannon. Within either setting, it's not an especially impressive weapon.

[@Slender_Man_186]

@@dungeonguy88 until you consider that even a charged plasma pistol shot was enough to nearly kill Linda, one of the best Spartan IIs, or how a fuel rod fully disintegrated a Spartan III in SPI Armor, and later a Spartan II makes Will in Mk VI took a fuel rod cannon blast to the chest. That single shot stripped his shields and scorched the entire torso armor, and that’s titanium that’s been given a heat resistant coating. Even a near miss with a plasma rifle is enough to leave a normal marine with 3rd degree burns, direct hits are 4th degree burns, the area hit is left completely burnt through.

[@Lolk266]

@@Slender_Man_186 Isn’t the fuel rod cannon’s damage heavily reliant on radiation? If I remember right, the Krogan’s homeworld is pretty heavily irritated and they’ve evolved to withstand it. The Krogan in game compared to Lore are also very different in terms of power. Shep can tear through warlords and battle masters simply because if they followed lore, the fight would drag on for hours with how their regeneration factor is supposed to work. It’s similar to how Chief tears through brutes like they’re nothing in game. Either way, it’s a fun little debate. Personally my money would be on the Krogan. They were legit so powerful in the Mass Effect lore that the other races had to formulate a disease to stop them from taking over everything.

[@orcatwar9810]

hello can you do the Zerg vs the Flood (starcraft vs halo) PLEASE CAN YOU DO IT ????

[@greaterhalo0659]

Rip Zerg

[@brakdanych4329]

Master Chief Petty Officer John-S117 not nessesary, if flood would start on a primitive planet zergs would most likely win

[@sorolxp29]

Master Chief Petty Officer John-S117 Zerg would win because they can evolve mutate get better without infect some advanced species the flood is an all in type that means full aggressiv e and could easily destroy any high advanced species bcs they just need to infect 1 high tech planet

[@Stratonetic]

orc at war 98 Dude I just had a thought, you know the Swarm from Command and Conquer Tiberium Wars? Pair that against the Flood. Thoughts?

[@itsyaboidaniel2919]

+orc at war 98 He will do it, if you ask constantly and at least 100 times and comment this each video

[@shineyorkboy]

The strength difference is so big I have a hard time seeing even a peek Krogan beating the average Brute more than 10 or 20% of the time. I mean Wrex and Grunt have bulled off some impressive stuff, but there're probably examples of Brutes doing as good or better. Although I have a hard time seeing even a squad of Brutes taking down a Thresher Maw on foot. I'd kind of be interested in seeing a Halo Brute vs a Mass Effect Brute (a Reaperized Krogan/Turian hybrid).

[@Malacite]

The fact that Brutes can just casually toss around Spartan 2's like ragdolls says it all. The Mjollnir alone is over 1000 pounds.

[@SuperThest]

@@Malacite No, they did a little dossiers on Waypoint back in the day. Master Chief in Mjolnir weighs a total of 994 lbs, That would make the armor around 700lbs

[@justafaniv1097]

I do think there is one more thing to take into account with the Krogan. They can live for upwards of 1000 years, equaling LOTS of combat experience. So while I still think Brutes would win the majority of the time, I think if the average Krogan is even only 200 years old, they have enough experience to maybe only let the Brute win 7or8/10.

[@Brandon-ie4bc]

Justafan IV I would say that Krogans can live much longer than 1000 years. There is nothing on record talking about Krogans dying of old age in there sleep or anything like that. It's most likely their lifestyle that gets them killed, I.E. fighting all the time. Drack stated that he's over 1400 years old.

[@akush42069]

Justafan IV krogan live 250 not 1000

[@Brandon-ie4bc]

Adam Reyna In the Citadel DLC, Wrex states that he's over 700 years old. So, try again.

[@aperson1938]

Snowblind Also their blood rage would close the strength gap by a great amount and increase the krogans regeneration rates that would make it win more often

[@ciridaehunter2601]

Adam Reyna Krogan can live as long as Asari, if not longer, it’s just highly unlikely due to their violent nature as a warrior race.

[@seeker4it]

Do Elites vs Turians

[@jamespaguip5913]

Pretty obvious elites

[@AngelWOLF239]

Curious. Elites vs Krogan?

[@pearsemolloy9656]

@@AngelWOLF239 in 1v1 an elite would likely outmanoeuvre a Krogan and gain the upper hand with its fighting skill and energy sword. In full scale war between the species the Krogan would win due to their durability, biotic abilities and rapid reproduction to quickly replenish numbers. Mass Effect makes it pretty clear that without the genophage the Krogan are unstoppable.

[@attackmaster519]

@@pearsemolloy9656 depends on if it's pre or post genophage.

[@pearsemolloy9656]

@@attackmaster519 well it wouldn’t be a fair matchup if it was Krogan with the genophage. With these videos you assume both sides are at their peak

[@keiran5170]

Krogan have biotics.... end of argument

[@sirsilco]

Regardless of how we all feel (and I absolutely love Krogans) the fact is that even a fully armoured Krogan warlord, the oldest strongest most badass Krogan, can be easily picked up by one arm of a brute and thrown like it was playing fetch. So I imagine with the other arm it would peel the Krogans head off. Its like an Elephant fighting a Rhino.

[@xyro3633]

Dear God, finally. We need more Halo.

[@BeBetter22992]

Dark Helmet Vs Darth Vader

[@psykology9299]

The brutes themselves already have some level of gravitational mastery, we've seen that the grav hammer can attract objects both living and mechanical so brute chieftan say tartarus could could just as easily toss around a krogan without touching him, and i doubt a biotic shield would stand up to a gravity hammer

[@paxtonfairbanks9216]

Maybe. But if starwars has taught us anything then its that a tool like the grav hammer doesnt mean much if your oponent can lift you off the floor without touching you.

[@psykology9299]

@@paxtonfairbanks9216 fair but what if you get lifted by the brutes grav hammer now youre both stuck in the air 🤔

[@SaberFate]

They can have barriers just like a cheiften can. Also they can learn push, warp, and smash which would all kill any brute. Wouldn't need to even get near them either.

[@Oxideist]

@@psykology9299 Don't they just increase mass around the point of impact? I don't think gravity hammers can just levitate whatever the wielder wants.

[@Oxideist]

Shields in Halo are nothing compared to barriers in ME. Unfortunately the tradeoff is that they don't protect against plasma or DEW's. Plus what's stopping a Biotic Krogan from tossing him around? The shields in Halo aren't going to protect from the Mass Effect because they don't operate on the principle.

[@zacimusprime4865]

You need to make this a animated fight👍🏻 ahh that outro will never get old😂😂😂!!!

[@darkwraithraziel6362]

When taking into account Brute weaponry, are we leaving out Tartarus' special hammer? It has range, a pull, a pulse wave, etc. I still agree with this video in that a Krogan with tech could take out a Brute. While rare even UNSC marines can do it. However I don't see most sci-fi alien species beating brutes as they're so god damn strong, fast, and brutal. Don't underestimate Brute intelligence either. They're EXTREMELY good hunters and their entire race has a warrior culture. The best thing to do is fight a brute at a distance and pray to god they don't catch your scent and sneak up on you.

[@efxnews4776]

This dude also forgot something about krogans... They can live for a thousand of years, wich means they have more wisdom and experience than the brutes.

[@ARCAlpha12]

I’d have to say that this is relatively accurate. Armored and armed, even a normal, non biotic Krogan I think would be more than a match for a Brute Chieftan. I’d put them on par with a Spartan II, and we know that Spartan II’s can kill a Brute. Grunt would be a perfect example of this. Especially since we seen him tackle and take down multiple Ravagers on his own. If Grunt is comparable to a very angry and scaly Spartan, then you don’t need biotics to kill a Brute. Just a really big gun and a lot of ammo.

[@ninedivines5374]

But what will that do against a banished chieftain that's actually given proper power armour and a fuel rod cannon?

[@Slender_Man_186]

I don’t think so, Covenant plasma weapons in Halo are horrifying, being able to melt and even incinerate titanium. From what I understand, a Krogan’s natural armor doesn’t do much against extreme temperatures.

[@ninedivines5374]

@@Slender_Man_186 that's not even mentioning that we're comparing a chieftain with a fuel rod cannon lol it literally destroys building

[@sebasfrankes6501]

Is this a simple, straight up fight then? because I can imagine most Krogan can outsmart and outflank Brutes when they are say, hunting each other across an area. Krogan are born on worlds with nearly everything being bigger and stronger than them, so I dont think they would feel any need for being al Worflike about honor and such. If it is a straight fight I agree though.

[@starhammer5247]

Against Atriox, they would get slaughtered, though. Granted, he's an exception to regular brutes, but that doesn't change how OP that fucker is.

[@sebasfrankes6501]

@@starhammer5247 Yeah well, like you said, Atriox is Atriox. So lets up the ante: Atriox vs a Krogan Battlemaster, perhaps even a named character like Wrex. How does he deal with biotics? I don't think he has an answer to that, although perhaps if he has time to prepare.

[@starhammer5247]

@@sebasfrankes6501 Well he just has to know of them to come up with a counter, he isn't exactly a normal brute, after all, considering his preference to strategize and come up with plans rather than just fight upfront. A Krogan Battlemaster would give him a fight but his hammer might kick their ass. Either way though, Atriox might prefer to simply recruit them rather than fight them, he's not the Covenant so he'd be more than willing to let others into his faction.

[@RaxuRangerkingsChannel]

To start off with, I'm glad I've found this channel, because these Mass Effect matchups are great discussion-builders. There actually ARE several strength feats for the Krogans, and they're VERY impressive. On several occasions, notably in multiplayer but also visible if you have Grunt/Wrex on your squad, Krogan are able to send all but the largest Geth flying dozens of meters with a single hit. By comparison, even a fairly small-sized Geth like Legion is able to lift and restrain a fully-armored Commander Shepard with ONE HAND and no visible exertion on Legion's part. We don't have any precise measurements on the exact power of Shepard's armor, but it affords him enough power to crush a cybernetically-enhanced human skull with one stomp, and even tank laser beam attacks, so it's probably pretty heavy. The Krogan Warlord's strength is even more impressive; his hammer attacks can straight up reduce a Geth to synthetic pulp (a feat also displayed by Grunt and Wrex, who don't have a hammer), and he can destroy an Atlas mech in under 5 hits even without his hammer. Keep in mind that these mechs are able to withstand planetary reentry, or sustained pressure in the depths of the ocean on foreign planets; it's the equivalent of causing a military-grade nuclear submarine to explode because you rammed into it with your forearm a few times. To put this in perspective, the real-world Seawolf military sub, arguably the strongest military sub ever made, uses HY-100 steel in it's construction, which has a durability of roughly 100,000 PSI, and anything in the Mass Effect universe is probably way more durable than that, but sticking to real-world comparisons...the PSI at the bottom of the Mariana Trench is just 16,000. TL;DR: In short, AT MINIMUM, getting shoulder-charged by a Krogan Warlord is over 8 times worse than being immediately teleported to the bottom of the Mariana Trench and having the weight of miles of water pressing down on you. The average Krogan might not be THIS powerful, but considering the relatively ordinary-looking Krogan Soldier can achieve similar damage, it's not too much of a stretch to say that they can be calculated similarly. So yeah, those are the Krogan's strength feats.

[@mitchellblake1475]

The mentality and capabilities of the Brutes makes this roughly equivalent to Krogan vs Yahg. The Krogan are known for treating combat like an art or science, so I don't think the Brutes' brute force would really be as effective as you make it sound. Would it be a hell of a challenge? Yeah. Did Grunt deal with worse and survive it in Mass Effect 3? Probably. Not to mention the fact that the Krogan healing factor seems to only get better and faster with age. I think, in the unarmed and unarmored fight, it largely would be decided by how much experience the Krogan has. One like Drack would probably not have much of an issue really, seeing as a Krogan at such an old age has basically fought everything there is to fight, while a younger, less experienced Krogan would probably lose. Another point for Krogan resiliency: blood rage. It amplifies what the Krogan are capable of and, according to lore, has had cases where the Krogan fight beyond even brain death. I second the ones saying Turians vs Elites. It'd be interesting to see the thinking and outcomes

[@starhammer5247]

It would have to be in overall combat since Elites are pretty strong compared to normal humans. Tactics would have to be taken into account since both are intelligent fighters.

[@danielefabbro822]

Its a difficult challenge. While Krogans are rocks, solid and massive, they are still reptiles. Cold blood cant give you a lot of energy. Brutes? Its like having a gorilla under hyper-steroids. You wont fight a gorilla, figure it out fight a Jiralhanae. A brute would play with a gorilla like we play with a puppy. A Krogan can be difficult to handle initially for a Brute, when both are fresh. But after the Krogan reaches its max heating, then the game is set. Krogan cant move or he will boil alive. Brutes just go on hitting, biting, destroying whatever there is in front of him. 😮‍💨 Those big boys are quite problematic to handle.

[@matthewfritz4629]

The big difference is that krogan's have amazing regenerative abilities and not only that krogan's can live to be almost a thousand years old so the Krogan Battlemaster would have almost a thousand years of combat experience to fall back on.

[@rhymenoceros3303]

I think we can all agree that none of us would ever want to fight either these guys in a fist fight, especially the brutes in my opinion... they *eat* people.

[@holicekaderliiii6787]

An immovable object versus an unstoppable force. Nice.:)

[@BenadrylNumbercrunch]

brutes from halo vs orks from 40k

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

Ork

[@Dramatic_Gaming]

My money is on the krogan, hands down. They are a lot stronger physically than I think you give them credit for, as well as their blood rage increasing their strength and durability in combat. The recoil of their trademark Claymore shotgun is stated to be enough to shatter a human's arm, yet they have zero issues using it. Not to mention that biotics completely break the encounter in favor of the krogan. But to cap it all off, krogans evolved fighting bigger stuff than them. They are explicitly stated to be a *prey species* on their homeworld of Tuchanka, so their entire philosophy in combat was developed with hitting things bigger than them as hard as possible.

[@RavenBirbwen]

Dramatic_Gaming A Brute's Gravity Hammer is literally manipulating gravity to increase the strike power and decimate whatever it hits. It has been noted to do serious damage to a tank, which implies that it is strong enough to at least injure an armored opponent

[@Dramatic_Gaming]

Sidonex 5176 The reason I pointed out krogans evolved fighting larger things is because all their weapons have been designed for that purpose. The Claymore makes the UNSC's M90 shotgun look like a toy in comparison, and even Brutes can't take more than a few shots from that. And then you also have the Graal Spike Thrower, which is a massive flechette gun specifically meant to rip apart flesh and cause severe wounds. And while krogans in general having biotics is rare, most battlemasters do have them purely because they provide such an advantage in combat. In a society where might makes right, the strongest individuals will naturally rise to the top. Battlemasters also weild biotic-powered hammers comparable to a Brute's Gravity Hammer.

[@ghgghhggghhh]

Dramatic_Gaming completely agree with this. Brutes couldn't hold a candle to krogan on any playing field, biotics or not.

[@ghgghhggghhh]

john smith I feel like brute lore may have fluctuated over the years as during my halo experience I've never seen a brute stand that tall or feel that heavy. Also I think the point that was made about the krogan not being durable enough to withstand a brute implies that eckharts thinks that a krogan would simply not fight back, the brute is clearly a mammal and thus will have a softer exterior and will rely heavily on it's internal organs and muscle tissue to remain competent. I think whatever damage the krogan can push through either from blunt force trauma through the use of its head bone or the force that it's legs can exert would be a deciding factor in the fight. I doubt the krogan would get pummelled about and even if it did I think it would just laugh

[@buoyantsalmon]

Krogan beats thresher maw, thresher maw beats reaper, which means krogans beat reapers. moneys on Krogans

[@MannerdDesert7]

I don’t think think this would change the outcome but keep in mind that Tartarus was able to use his gravity hammer to disable and move both 343 Guilty Spark and Miranda Keyes, I’m not sure how this works (you’d think it had something to do with manipulating gravity but then there also seems to be electricity involved) but it would probably close the gap somewhat in a fight with Krogan Battle masters.

[@TheT7770ify]

Without biotics there is just no way a korgan can equal the raw brute (haha) strength of a brute. Even if we put them with guns a brute can tank much more fire then a krogan and let's not even get into melee weapons

[@raf74hawk12]

Honestly, I actually doubt the tankiness of a brute compared to a Krogan. If both are fully armed and armored, you can expect the Krogan to have shields on top of their regenerative abilities. I honestly haven't read into the physical abilities of Brutes, but I don't think that they have the insane regenerative abilities that the Krogan do (if any at all). This puts the Krogan at a huge advantage in ranged combat. Because even if the Brute is closing at full speed, it's going to be taking damage while it does it, and if the Krogan can get away for even a little while, it will be back up to fighting strength in hardly any time at all. So yeah, in a short fight, a Brute should be able to take at least the same amount of punishment if not significantly more, but if the fight drags on, the Krogan takes that hands down.

[@pocholopan.983]

Brutes also make use of shielding themselves so they'd have a bit of a buffer if they needed to get in close to attack for whatever reason

[@caukasianinja]

I feel like overall though the Krogan’s shields are better than any the brutes use, considering the fact that it’s the primary form of protection in mass effect. The personal ballistic weapons used in Mass Effect are also way more powerful than those used by the UNSC, and they both take down their respective universe’s shields in close to equal time. So I feel with full armor and shields a krogan would probably come close to brutes in terms of durability

[@pinhead2922]

caukasianinja if only the mass effect ships had powerful weapons compared to halo Then they would of destroyed those reapers

[@V2ULTRAKill]

TheT7770ify Okay so lets correct everything you've just said. One, the Graal Spike Thrower a signature Krogan weapon can pierce the hull of a reinforced ship in one or two well placed shots, brute bones and armor dont stand a chance against that, brute weapons would be useless against a krogans kinetic barrier including the grav hammer, a Krogan blood rage brings them to strength comparible to a brute with twice the durability and fast regen on top of that. Krogans can bite a brutes arm in half if it comes to it. Simply, biotics only turned it from a 9/10 to a 10/10

[@dinodude6992]

I got an idea: How many grunts from halo does it take to take down a single krogan?

[@ChandlerJC]

Average halo Grunt is 5feet tall its less then you think honestly lmao

[@rebelfleetcommander5138]

Moustache war who has the best moustache halo vs star wars vs warhammer40k vs mass effect.

[@charlstown2235]

Rebel fleet commander 40k stomps. Any commander in the imperial guard can be an example

[@kennethkates3140]

2 Harrower Dreadnaughts vs 1 Imperial Star Destroyer

[@cominguponinfra-red3038]

Can the UNSC and the Covenant survive and beat the Angel Zeruel from Evangelion on Earth when the Covenant first attacked? Zeruel appears out of nowhere in this and is laying waste to everything and everyone that it sees and gets in it's way while trying to look for Lilith on this version of Earth to start the next Impact

[@lordcavalier9688]

The question is if the covenant ships can shoot through the AT field. Or can Mac canons? Cause that’s angles biggest advantage. Because their offensive capabilities are not really that impressive. But if the at field is not penetrated, I doubt they could sop it.

[@aceofaces1944]

Wrex or Grunt could take Atriox or Tartarus. Grunt fought through half a rachni hive and survived, wrex killed a thresher maw. Even an average krogan like the patriarch lived generally health after going up against a powerful biotic opponent. The brutes only have size and strength but the Krogan have strength, intelligence, and durability. I mean, I don’t think the brutes have 2 hearts, tons of redundant organs and a second nervous system.

[@Tricky_Adventures]

... and 4 testicles.

[@HalfDemonInuyasha]

The Chimera (Resistance) vs. The Locusts (Gears of War)

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

Chimera cuz they have much more advanced tecnology and weaponry than the locust and maybe the chimeras could turn the locust into locust-Chimera hybrid

[@dragonstormx]

I want to see Hunters Vs Elcor done in the future.

[@themangix357]

ORK WARBOSS vs Brute Chieftain vs Krogan Battlemaster. WAAAAAAGH! Let's see who wins =))

[@johnsmith-sq6nu]

ApexPredator_ geez man what did the brute and krogan do to you to deserve this?

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

The ork warboss will stomp both litteraly

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

that would be way too one sided

[@lovefrompraha]

Key thing you missed is that all alliance soldiers are enhanced with gene therapy making them all peak humans. Perfect sight, hearing, etc and increased strength, stamina, etc. Unsc soldiers are not. Later on Shepard was further enhanced cybernetically basically making him a light Spartan

[@arstotzkanatthedmz4486]

Eventually tech can compensate for physical disparities. For example, regular grunt vs elite nah, easy, elite. Grunt goblin vs elite, different story. Hell it's why humans outclass gorillas despite our lacking of physical strength compared to most apes. So it makes sense a krogan master would be able to beat a brute chieften.

[@jackstefan8639]

I don’t know about the battle master vs chieftain I think the chieftain might be strong enough to just break through the biotics and with the weapons chieftains carry one shot and the Krogens dead.

[@DeathDragon5000]

HOW exactly? not only A directly destroying a biotic shield is not common with anything in ME. BUTANDALSO more importantly B even considering that the chieftain would survive alot of it, there's little to nothing prevent the BM from indefinitely biotic slamming pulling throwing BLARDY BLARDY BLARG, he could just pick him up then slam against a wall or ground until the CT eventually dies, or he could biotic pull then charge at or shoot him and when the CT isn't floating andor isn't disabled then the BM repeats. like I've been saying there's only 2 ways to possibly prevent the biotics 1 DYING or 2 maybe if CT has a shield maybe that could protect (admittedly I don't feel certain about that one so I could be wrong) again the brute CT probably would survive alot of the biotics due to there toughness HOWEVER other than killing the krogan before he successfully uses a biotic or (similarly to what you said "and with weapons the chieftain carry one shot and the krogan is dead") gets a good shot with his weapons or a lucky throw with a grenade again killing or KO the BM is the only to prevent the biotics once again despite the fact the CT would survive alot of it.

[@IrishPhoenix7]

Yesssss a versus!! I mean I love all of your content but versus has always been my favorite

[@knifetheknife]

Today we're going to compare apples to oranges

[@JmAnYoShI]

“Krogan don’t have the fury of the brute” Apparently you’ve never heard of Blood Rage. As Wrex always says: ah the benefits of a redundant nervous system.

[@cpob2013]

seriously, in lore blood rage surpasses destruction of the brain and will keep thrashing limbs until total somatic death. if a krogan bit a brute's arm, then the brute somehow impaled the krogan's face, it would keep gnawing until the arm came off not to mention the durability and healing of a krogan

[@nicholas9761]

Brute (Halo) vs Ork (Warhammer 40K).

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

Ork

[@brucejedilee5290]

The Yuuzhan Vong vs the Eldar. The Covenant vs the Dark Eldar. The Eternal Empire vs the Infinite Empire (inclouding all the droids and weapons they made that we see in SWTOR). Zann Consortium vs the Banished. The UNSC vs the Rebel Alliance.

[@ursaber]

Starfleet vs Republic or Imperial Fleet

[@SirSpangler]

Zann Consortium vs Hutt cartels

[@marcustulliuscicero5443]

Which Eldar? Current Craftworlders or Pre-Fall Aeldari Empire?

[@brucejedilee5290]

Marcus Tullius Cicero Current

[@CM-tv2bu]

Bruce Jedi Lee considering that the UNSC actually use point defence on capital ships they're not losing to the rebels

[@PulloffPrime]

i don't even like halo, and i love mass effect, but the krogans couldn't win against them. Besides the Krogan aren't as smart as Brutes anyway, if Brutes achieved their tech on their own. The Krogans were uplifted by the Salarians to kill the Rachni. I do think Krogans would be more ruthless though. Like how they would use astroids to destroy the population of planets and make them uninhabitable. If it's on Krogan turf however, Brutes are in trouble. Brutes have to get past Kalros, the mother of all Thresher Maws, to beat the Krogan.

[@ExternalDialogue]

Do a vid with da Orkz!

[@BlackHole54632]

A Krogen 1000 year old biotic battlemaster would wipe the floor with a Squad of brutes.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

Without the ability to manipulate gravitation and generate shields, a Krogan Battlemaster would stand no chance against a regular Brute, much less a Chieftain.

[@Kingdomkey123678]

Mike Vasquez Unfortunately for the Brutes, Krogan Battlemasters are Biotic.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

Skaianet very true. I was merely referring to the conditions outlined under the special parameter of no biotics. I absolutely agree. A Krogan Battlemaster with full access to his abilities would easily trounce not just one, but multiple Brute Chieftains.

[@masterblaster3508]

Krogan blood rage, krogan healing factor etc gives edge. Shepard is a highly trained N7 operative. Him doing that to wrex is by no means easy but ME suits and human augmentation do give shepard some edge here. Not to mention odst fight brutes and chieftains at times and win. Don't see the vast majority of krogan suffering much. Got to get through their armor, thick plate skin, and regeneration capabilities. Also depends on what varient armor you give a krogan, weapons etc. Bare in mind mass effect can have full armor sets or mix match them. Anys poisoned environment they will be fine and do not need to eat for a long period of time due to their hump. They can outlast a brute, be just a strong, do have a more tactical edge over the brute and just better all over designed. Sure brutes can take down spartans via their strength yet atriox is a special brute, and more data is needed. Same for krogans too since yes turians asari and anyone can kill a krogan but weapons in mass effect fire at a faster rate, carry larger rounds, can be modified with special ammo, and other goodies. It is why in a ground fight your average soldier is better geared for armor piercing, disruptor ammo, cryo ammo, incidenary rounds, phasic, explosive, drill, and warp ammo rounds just butcher the brutes.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

@@masterblaster3508 Despite your little essay, they do not scale to the Brutes who can ragdoll fully armored Spartan-IIs

[@masterblaster3508]

@@UncleMikeDrop spartan II didn't not get rag dolled quite easily Out in the open. Red team got ambushed by one super brute who was modified this being atrox. This is like saying a jackel can take down a spartan II or III on a 1v1 because the jackel took a clean headshot throught Kat's helmet in the back on reach. A krogan ain't super peak human, they are super soldiers. They do not need to eat or drink for weeks, they have mutiple organs like a space marine, can land on hazard planets and be fine, they have access to better weapons, ammo and such. Melee combat due to me3 lore omni tools of military grade line have blade systems and other fun goodies for the krogans to use. Plus once a krogan goes into blood rage they do not become savage like monster like brutes who throw down their weapons in the heat of the moment. Sure a young krogan undergoing "coming of age" will not have proper control but once he does his blood rage is control. Meaning all sense are henanced. And krogan lifespans are 1,000 years on average. Just most of them die early do to fighting a lot.

[@mesa176750]

Been a while since this video came out, but I think if you pitted the unaltered krogan home system against the brute home system, the krogan would have won

[@Odd1337]

From what I've seen in the game people with biotics can barely lift a ton, I doubt biotics can stop a charging brute.

[@darryneaton3111]

Biotics literally stop artillery strikes.

[@Odd1337]

@@darryneaton3111Are you talking about kinetic barrier Shields or biotics, because they haven't shown biotic powers doing that in the game, or correct me if there is a specific part of the game where that specific feet you say actually happened, I've played mass effect 1 to 3 and I haven't seen it.

[@madmohawk6560]

Correction you saw what Attriox did to Spartans... he's abit high on the totem pole to compare to normal brutes

[@Truck--kun]

Without biotics it's tough to decide, but the main factor if they Brutes would be allowed covenant energy weapons and tech. If allowed covenant tech Brutes could possibly win, but would be long battle of attrition. This is because energy barriers can block a lot of things, but will be taken down with enough firepower demonstrate by various UNSC weapons, especially the sniper which can take out shields in 1-2 shots depending on placement. Even if they break through like he stated the armor itself and general brute hardiness can still be a bullet sponge. If you take away the covenant tech then brute weaponry is pretty bad. I mean you have the brute shot which is basically a grenade launcher with a blade attached, the mauler which is basically a shotgun pistol with a bayonet, the type 25 carbine aka " the spiker" which is kinda like a railgun but shoots spikes instead, and the gravity hammer. Without energy weapons they would lose I think. My main reasoning is that ME tech is heavy kinetic weaponry and defense, the kinetic barriers(KB) should be able to withstand most brute weaponry besides the gravity hammer, considering kinetic shields are able to block hyper velocity rounds, explosions, plasma( incinerate is basically a plasma blast I think), particle weaponry( collector weapons). Not to mention I think KB would be able to block some plasma damage, they can stop plasma but not the heat so they would still get burned heavily, but krogan armor and regeneration could nullify that. As mentioned by others Krogans live a long time, so the average krogan would have more combat experience as well. If we stick to krogan weaponry then they would be pretty effective against brutes I think if you take the graal spike thrower which is used to hunt thresher maws, you know those giant acid spitting 30 meter long worm monsters by shooting oversized flechettes at hyper velocity meant to pierce thresher hide and create deep wound channels leading to massive blood loss. Also the standard krogan battle hammers which are basically smaller gravity hammers, but if you take away the biotic variant there is still the tech war hammer which as more damage. In conclusion I think a krogan battlemaster could beat a brute chieftain due to combat experience, krogan physiology, and specialized mass effect kinetic barriers which renders most of the brute chieftains weapons useless without a lot of sustained fire( which a krogan battlemaster wouldn't allow), and ME krogan brutal weapons. Even if brutes were allowed covenant tech I think that krogan physiology and ME KB's can stop most of it and then it's just a battle of attrition in which krogans can regenerate over time when brutes can't, even with brute bullet sponge capabilities krogan weapons are meant to bleed enemies out and since brutes can't naturally stop bleeding like krogans can they will eventually lose.

[@NakedSnake1836]

You should have the Asari Justicars face off against the Jedi in terms of the Force vs. biotics.

[@scifience8297]

please do an A-wing vs a Viper Mk2 (BSG)

[@barrybend7189]

Sci Fience viper MK2 vs the thunderbolt starfury(Babylon 5).

[@chaszczek]

Barry Bend in spacedock chanel you Got this vs done

[@barrybend7189]

chaszczek i would love to see his take on it is that a good idea.

[@chaszczek]

Barry Bend here you Got a link to a video kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWetqHibbaqUfLc

[@barrybend7189]

chaszczek I said I would like to see Ech's take on this.

[@Azrael_Equinox]

Could the doom slayer survive the forerunner/flood war

[@wortwort2198]

Shadow Paradox The Slayer always wins.

[@marsbars4767]

Brute vs WH40k Ork

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

Orks will litteraly stomp the brutes

[@dakotasummers1585]

lemme tell you a story. a long, long, long time ago i got cornered by a bully twice my size, my weight, my strength. but this bully wasn't very smart, and that was his downfall. krogan live a thousand years, they through all this gain more and more experience, forming some of the best soldiers in mass effect, brute strength aside. i got behind this bully, i crawled up his back, and i hung on his neck until he turned red and gave in. i believe that using those hundreds of years of experience, an average krogan could defeat an average Brute, hand to hand.

[@SecretAsianMan26]

I think that it's only natural that you do a Turian vs Elites analysis now! Also, amazing work on your videos, and I hope that you keep up the great content!!!

[@gregoryrose13]

you forgot to take into factor the krogans blood rage which makes them able to fight through basically any form of punishment the game even explains tjere are accounts of krogan with all four limbs severed gnashing at their opponent even past nervous system death

[@0opsAllKobolds]

No mention of the krogan battle rage when they have to rely on redundant organs or their quick health regeneration that all krogan have? ...okay. Think you're missing some of the biggest things that make krogan so scary.

[@DeathDragon5000]

there's something you missed about the krogans which is krogan blood rage although I doubt it would make things not really that much easier let alone guarantee victory for the krogan HOWEVER that is a very common krogan ability worth mentioning

[@olivier5251]

Krogans woudl win hands down due to another factor. They breed like rabbits

[@kanebekkattla3963]

genophage... also this is a one on one battle breeding plays no factor here.

[@ZedTripler]

kane bekkattla agreed it's not armies fighting, it's 1 v 1

[@jonathanhirst6997]

If we were talking about armies going into battle then yeah, Krogan hands down will win thanks to attrition if nothing else.

[@Knalxz]

Actually you have that backwards. The Krogans with their insane breeding would lose in attrition because they'd have more warriors to feed arm and ship off. That along with the fact that in Mass Effect they have no real FTL and need the Relay's means that in space the brutes can out maneuver them greatly. The Brutes also have plasma weapons which literally only the Geth kind of have in mass effect and we already know how devastating that shit is even on a minor scale so bump it up to fucking 150)% with the brute plasma rifle and you've got a monster to deal with. A single brute being vastly stronger and having shields that can block both projectiles and plasma attacks which the races in ME don't have and you've got brutes knocking down starving Krogans left and right as their ships warp in from out of nowhere glassing their planets.

[@jonathanhirst6997]

"Their insane breeding would lose in attrition because..." Is that why they were winning the Krogan Rebellions to the point where the Council races had to sterilise 99.9% of the whole race just to beat them? Also, Krogan can basically eat anything so starvation's not a problem for them, at least not a great one. Arming them for a war wasn't much of a problem either if I remember their lore correctly, even pre-genophage. "Having shields that can block both projectiles and plasma attacks which the races in ME don't have..." You just said the Geth had plasma weapons, so which is it? Also, I'm fairly certain that the Krogan have shields, too. :D

[@The_Grox]

I haven’t finish watching this vid but Brute wins in my opinion, sorry Urdunot im just being honest

[@HalfBit360]

So I don’t know much about Krogans but how does weaponry compare? Do they also have Gravity Hammers?

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

They have better a high-powered shotgun

[@CM-tv2bu]

Monday's insanity the claymore isnt even that effective single shot, bad range like all ME shotguns

[@Kingdomkey123678]

Well they have a gun that was designed to hunt Thersher Maws as one of their preferred weapons (I forget its name). Thersher Maws are 30 Meter long, Acid Spitting, sand worm with naturally Ballistic resistant armor plating on top of a thick leathery hide. It’s worth noting that in order for a Krogan to become an adult in their culture, they must fight and kill a Thersher maw in an arena. At times they are allowed a partner to assist, but the most Notable Krogan are the ones that killed their thresher maw in single combat. Like Wrex.

[@CM-tv2bu]

Skaianet the killing of a man isnt necessary merely completing the trials, and sure but it doesn't one shot the maws ite just a strong shotgun, with piss poor range, the unsc shotgun is stupid powerful. Also some proof on that source? The power of biptics is really varied and even then they still cant ragdoll though shields and they have to be able to hit their target.

[@CM-tv2bu]

Skaianet I could talk about brute weaponry but it really speaks for itself, brute shot, covenant plasma weaponry, the gravity hammer

[@dlastkatipunero2185]

Krogan wins hands down. Shepard smacking wrex down is not a factor cuz that's plot power as Shepard is unique like the time he punched a katana into several broken pieces. Numerous lore points show that they survived harsher injuries and environments far greater than mortally possible. Garm took hundreds of rounds and surviving it for hours. Besides immense Regen and Strength their superb senses, centuries of experience and redudant systems make them great hunters and living tanks.Blood rage would even further their unnatural strength and regeneration when critically injured or have been enraged. Lastly their biotics depending on the warrior class or status would leave the brutes severely injured and outright exposed to high powered weaponry or biotic hammers.

[@ursaber]

KROGAN all the way. I AM KROGAN!

[@FortressLordJP193]

I feel like Brutes will win the poll just because many people play Halo as FPS games are widely played. Realistically though Krogan have thick hides, heightened reflexes, better technology, more intelligence, near perfect poison, disease and toxin immunity, live for 1000 years (think of the combat experience), have berserker rage, many are cybernetically enhanced... I love both franchises but Krogan simply has the edge in everything but height.

[@V2ULTRAKill]

Jay 193 people keep thinking plasma qeaponry is impressive, like bitch you know what the Graal Spike Thrower is right, shit would go straight through a line of brutes

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

The decepticons will litteraly stomp both

[@jacobsnodgrass1888]

Krogan are actually very strong as they have been shown in Mass Effect 2 and in Andromeda they can burst through reinforced walls and lift debris the size of busses.

[@marsbars4767]

Predator vs Elite

[@duncanmcokiner4242]

Special forces Elite. They have cloaks too.

[@xyro3633]

Mars Bars Sangheili ftw

[@Raving_Rando]

Mars Bars I've seen this, and it almost always goes for the Elite. The reason why is because most tactics the Predator uses Elites are familiar with, but the main reason most bring up is the fact that the Predator has heat vision. Why is this a problem and not a perk? Because most Covenant weaponry uses plasma, which would appear as a massive white flash in heat vision. As soon as the Elite opens fire or uses any plasma based weaponry the Predator is blind.

[@duncanmcokiner4242]

Predators actually have variable spectrum vision. Thermal is just the default, they have also been known to see in visible light, ultra violet and whatever this is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5q0dWONoJt4ock Heat isn't all they have.

[@marsbars4767]

Jiralhanae and Cure Don't know what you mean by "superior" because they have almost the same body mass and I think elites are slightly bigger. There are specially trained elites in Halo that are able to go up against Spartans and still win.

[@anthonyrinaldi1331]

A big problem for Krogans is that their very top heavy. Their limbs are kinda stubby and while you wouldn't want to be in ones grip, I can't imagine them being to swing or throw a punch as much as a brute whose body has much more freedom of motion for the their limbs. Like a brute could charge a krogan and unbalance them to push them to the ground and from their the brute just needs to wail on the krogan,could take a while though. Brute might hurt his hands from the effort of smacking a giant turtle.

[@obi-wankenobi8406]

Krogan have numbers on their side krogan can have about 1000 offspring per year

[@brakdanych4329]

Obi-Wan Kenobi unless they get hit by an illness that make 999 out of their 1000 offsprings die

[@obi-wankenobi8406]

brak danych "that was fun" wrex from mass effect

[@coreymicallef365]

But you have to consider each side at their peak, and the Krogan's peak was pre-genophage.

[@Knalxz]

Tell me how they'd feed that many people in a war scenario wit ha spaces known for having a bottomless pit of a stomach? Don't forget that in the ME universe that they've only discovered 1% of the galaxy and that Covenant outer worlds are filled with so much plasma radiation that plant and animal life can't be sustained on them outside of the Thornbeasts.

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

who would win: an entire race of armoured huge reptiles who breed faster than you can kill them or one salamander boi

[@brokenursa9986]

If we did allow in-universe weaponry, the Krogan has a bigger advantage. Most Brute weapons would hardly scratch a Krogan. The only ones that would actually do any major damage are the Brute Shot and Gravity Hammer, and more because of concussive force than any actual penetration. On the other side, Mass Effect weapons can deal decent damage to even creatures as large and as powerful as Thresher Maws. Hurting a Brute would be no problem for a fully-armed Krogan.

[@helldrake77777]

Finally another VS episode. Was getting starved for this stuff.

[@tsarfox3462]

Pro-tip: Just spend 5 seconds to convince the Brute that blowing what little brains it has out will give them an amazing afterlife. The problem solves itself.

[@TheHeroBleeder]

Krogans hands down.

[@TheHeroBleeder]

Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus Krogan every time Don't forget The Krogan have rites that can put them against an Acid Spewing worm and Wrex has lifted 2 giant thresher Maw Summoning hammers to reset them. And they Stronger than Brutes.

[@dr.catherineelizabethhalse1820]

Mark Ciccolella hands up

[@CM-tv2bu]

Mark Ciccolella no krogan fight thresher maws that's incorrect and wrex worst lifting the hammer

[@Truck--kun]

also when it gets down to it krogans with ME tech can beat out brutes with covenant tech since kinetic barriers can block almost everything the brutes can dish. I mean they can block projectiles, explosions, melee weapons, kinetic energy, particle weapons( collector weapons), plasma somewhat( incinerate is basically a plasma ball), etc. Not to mention KB can block the physical plasma but not the heat, but krogan can regenerate the damage back so it nullifies it mostly. Also take into account that the krogan have the graal spike thower which shoots fletchettes at hyper velocity that will cause heavy bleeding, which brutes can heal from like krogans could.

[@CM-tv2bu]

Brain Bleach most of what you said there was Incorrect and shouldn't actually work, it just does because of game mechanics. A kinetic barrier does exactly that it's a barriers against certain types of kinetic energy, the brutes utilise a full blown energy shield which will block anything, and additionally energy shields used by the brutes are a lot stronger. In the halo books its shown that trying to grapple with someone who has a barrier is hard as they are slippery, but repeatedly in the ME series the barriers never block punches or any physical combat.

[@HarbingersBuddy]

Drax punched a hole in a solid steel wall, but krogan are weaker than brutes huh… another thing worth noting is Shep is a super soldier with physical augmentations, genetic engineering, and the best gear in the galaxy, so basically him punching a krogan would be the exact same as chief doing so.