Could the Halo Galaxy Survive a Reaper Invasion? Mass Effect vs Halo: Galactic Versus

The UNSC and the Covenant face an invasion by the Reapers - a race of synthetic machine beings from the Mass Effect Universe. Can they survive? Find out on today's Mass Effect vs Halo Galactic Versus episode!
Who Would Win: the UNSC and the various races of the Covenant are attempting to rebuild and re-establish themselves after the devastating Human-Covenant War when they are struck by a Reaper Invasion out of dark space. Given their state in the Halo 4 / Halo 5 era, can they come together to survive, as the System's Alliance and Council Races tried to? The Covenant will be controlled primarily by the Elites, Humanity will have access to all of their tech, including the UNSC infinity, and no forerunner weapons will be in play.
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[@r4geme226]

4:20 Harbinger was the first Reaper, yes. Though hes not the one you destroy in ME1. That Reaper is called Sovereign. Harbinger actually makes his first apperance in ME2 at the end of the game.

[@EckhartsLadder]

Thanks, my mistake.

[@Connie.999]

Phew! Somebody else noticed that lol. I was like "wait huh?!"

[@bearlord3790]

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

[@kaisersnider8593]

It's at 420 for a reason to see who is high or not.

[@ExternalDialogue]

EACKTUALY! we see Harbinger on the mission on horizon when he is controlling the collector in a cutscene

[@astronomybrainiac]

Reapers: We are the pinnacle of existence! Forerunners briefly looking up from building a Dyson shell around an artificial star embedded in another dimension: Huh, did someone say something?

[@TCG9777]

Too long

[@randysavage1]

Halo after 3 is trash gameplay wise. And major trash in story. So in real halo. Halo would win. In halo where u have god floating around in a orb iwonder who wins???

[@mLj0011]

@@randysavage1 The Haloverse is way more powerful as depicted in lore then it is in gameplay, I’m sure if you looked up the amount of feats Chief has had under his belt in lore compared to gameplay you would be quite surprised.

[@kabob0077]

@@mLj0011 Mint doing Book Accurate Master Chief stuff just proves it...

[@flipyap8005]

@@randysavage1 when you first saw halo, were you blinded by nostalgia?

[@danielgudi7446]

I will never get tired of the clip there the infinity runs over the covenant ship like it's fly on a windshield.

[@LMG1792]

Daniel Gudi the speech Palmer gives during it makes it even more iconic “ the covies think this is the joke of one of their gods. Well if those freaks want to meet god it’s our duty to help them along.”

[@cookiecraze1310]

Ship crew : It's so good being on a covenant ship with far more advanced weapons and armour than those demons ! Infinity : Ima end this ships whole career.

[@kabob0077]

@@LMG1792 Almost as I C O N I C as any of Johnson's speeches.

[@deathsshadow7656]

Still don’t get how people don’t like Infinity

[@NicholasRodriguezN7]

Me too. Says so much about how humanity has advanced since Halo 3.

[@TheWineGuy101]

Reaper: "We are the pinnacle of evolution, you are nothi-" Johnson: "Listen, tinkerbell, don't make me..."

[@bigj1905]

Reapers: The most technological advances A.I created with hyper advanced intelligence Johnson: Has two sticks and a rock, and he has to share the rock Who would win?

[@andrewhodgson2566]

Guys

[@andrewhodgson2566]

The flood would beat the reapers

[@Redlionreal5649]

@@andrewhodgson2566 idk, can they infect the machine?

[@jonathonmcclellan4716]

@@Redlionreal5649 yes they can, gravemimds are able to infect both organics and artificial intelligences with it, and since the reapers are a.i. they are susceptible to it.

[@IntelCorei-KProcessor-go2to]

Elite: "Fleetmaster , the Reapers outnumber us ! 3 to 1 !" Rtas: "Then it is an even fight."

[@wumbosaurus9121]

Good quote

[@cmdr_kai2492]

More like: Elite-"Fleetmaster! The Reapers outnumber us 50 to 1!" Rtas-"Then it is an even fight."

[@thedidact2050]

Forerunners- "Didact! The reapers outnumber us 5000000000000000000 to 1!" Didact-"Then it is an even fight."

[@tikho3795]

Elite: "Fleetmaster, we outnumber the Reapers 5 to 1!" Rtas: "Then it is an even fight."

[@Gsgm-hg5cj]

Tikho the odps roughly have a yield of about 100000 reapers combined

[@aaronbarrett5061]

"We, are the pinnacle of" *gets sniped by Johnson*

[@Cameron088]

_Dear Humanity, We regret coming to Earth, We regret being Alien Bastards, and we most certainly regret that the corp just blew up our raggedy ass fleet!_

[@lelanddeviney8355]

Oorah

[@newbiebagelface2284]

Oorah!

[@christopherberman9583]

@@Cameron088 OORAH!

[@williamcote4208]

OORAH

[@justifano7046]

Sovereign: You cannot even grasp the nature of our existence Forerunners: *lol ok*

[@MrVidman14]

Precursors: hold my neural physics star road

[@ongoingcoyote5601]

Fucking precursors make logic plauge. “We may die but god damit we will take you with us” disappears into fancy space dust

[@cookiecraze1310]

Pre-Couser's : We litteraly existed in a forth dimension.

[@christophmed1559]

He is completely wrong when comparing the combat strength of Reapers and UNSC ships. MAC guns are basically large railguns that accelerate a projectile to high speeds. The weapons in Mass Effect are based on the same principle plus the effects of Element Zero, which massively boosts each railgun. This means that if the far superior railguns in Mass Effect are ineffective against the Reapers, the comparatively weak MAC cannons have no chance of doing damage to a Reaper. This is also true for the UNSC Infinity, whose main weapons are 4 super heavy MAC-cannons, but it must be assumed that they do not reach the elemental zero-railguns from Mass Effect. This means that the UNSC ships in direct comparison would probably be destroyed instantly.

[@christophmed1559]

I think the Covenant's weapons would also be ineffective against the Reapers. Covenant ships use super high heated plasma to destroy their ships by extreme heat, whereas UNSC railguns and elemental zero-railguns from Mass Effect destroy their targets with kinetic energy. The Reapers' kinetic barriers are capable of deflecting anything with mass. Since plasma is an aggregate state of matter, the plasma would be deflected by the kinetic barriers and since it has little kinetic energy, it could never overcome the Reaper shields. But if the plasma does not come into contact with the Reaper's hull, it cannot harm them. That's probably why Covenant ships would be destroyed quickly.

[@valiatus6719]

*Reapers Invade Star Trek Galaxy* "You have 1 Friend Request from "The Borg" "

[@Jarsia]

love it

[@MyaronTroy]

Actually that would be interesting comparison. Reaper indoctrination Vs Borg assimilation.

[@Charistoph]

One theory is that V'Ger was discovered by and was given a ship by the Borg. This theory is given weight in Star Trek Online where you take on a V'Ger class ship in the game. Not saying it is canon, just that the STO team ran with it. It could also be that the Borg conquered said machine race and incorporated them in to themselves which led to their extreme capacity. Either way, something to consider when the Reapers come.

[@Matt_UFP]

@@Charistoph Wait...where in the game do we fight a V'Ger class?

[@Charistoph]

@@Matt_UFP, I can't remember, it was quite a long time ago, and the last time I played was in 2013. It was a Borg event where you teamed up and then warped in, fought a bunch of spheres and cubes, then it would jump in and you had to fight it down. Here's a link to someone doing it almost 8 years ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnnGZ516m5ljeK8

[@roboguard96]

“Sir permission to leave the station” “For what purpose master-chief?” “To give the reapers back their bomb” “Permission granted”

[@Gutenburg100]

Dealers don't use bombs. The indoctrinate people who will in turn use bombs but repeats themselves don't use bombs....Like the quote though

[@Gutenburg100]

tvercetti1 wasn't killing the joke just stated a fact and then at the end said I liked the quote. Meaning I got the joke found it funny but wanted to state the fact is all.

[@Gutenburg100]

tvercetti1 mmmmm nope just stating a fact. Hey but you know what they say about assuming right. You're just in damage control so it's ok I forgive you.

[@Gutenburg100]

tvercetti1 well didn't take you long to throw the insults how mature. This conversation was over the moment you began that sentence. How fun keyboard warrior who seems to respond within 20 minutes of me posting something.

[@kevinhowe543]

To be fair to the keyboard warrior (he did get a bit too butthurt) presenting facts that weaken a joke is literally the act of killing the joke. I would know as I often do it without thinking among my group of friends.

[@bmdnoone]

Halo 2 Legendary difficulty Jackal snipers Game over Reapers Edit: Holy shit. Thanks a million for the likes folks!

[@ryonalawson3852]

BMD No one “Rakatac Rakatac” *Beam Rifle shot*

[@The-nr6yg]

BMD No one 😂😂😂😂

[@ejedwards988]

Only with the ground forces.

[@adamtelek294]

Ohh, no the PTSD

[@swaggykitty2925]

Ádám Telek Bruder da jackals!

[@CloroxBleach-qy7vy]

If you had to power cap the UNSC and Covenant just to give the reapers that big of a advantage, then i already know who won.

[@DragonHeart53]

Yeah. esepcially considering he glosses over so much of how powerful the infinity is as well as the orbital defense platforms. the Infinity held it's own against the Ur Didact's flag ship. which is the size of two Death stars on top of eachother.

[@nichsa8984]

@@DragonHeart53 yeah alien no reason c&c japan mech will chopping off tripod timeline without nuclear

[@Redstorm1554]

Look man, he power capped the Reapers quite severely too. Giving them 1,600 ships? That's nothing. According to the Mass Effect lore, the Reapers add a Sovereign class to their fleet for the most prominent race they destroy, they add a handful (anywhere between 3 and 10) destroyers for every cycle. During Mass Effect 2, Shepard finds a Reaper that is carbon dated to be a minimum of 37 million years old. Which, with a minimum of 740 harvests gives a bare minimum of 2900 Reapers. Almost double Ecks' quoted number. That's at minimum. The fluff states countless times that the reapers have been around for *BILLIONS* of years. At a minimum of one billion years of Reaper existence, there are well over 20,000 Sovereign class Capital ships and likely three to four times as many destroyer class Reapers.

[@andrewhodgson2566]

Or their could be millions and millions of sovereign class reapers

[@dfed324]

@@Redstorm1554 those numbers are assuming a lack of casualties. The reapers surely lost a sizable portion of their armada over the years. That's not to mention most Halo capital ships & the ODPs would 1-shot any Sovereign class reaper.

[@LOL_Garrus]

Me: *Sees massive guns of the Halo universe* Also me: [excited calibration noises]

[@TainyaGaming]

"I'll stop saying calibration when liara stops saying by the goddess"

[@bigb2610]

@@TainyaGaming "Just slap some face paint on".

[@GrOuNdZeRo7777]

Fucking love Garrus. Not sure why Eck would give it to the Reapers... ME guns shoot puny projectiles in the kiloton range while the halo universe has large rounds shot at relativistic speeds, if you do the math, kinetic energy of a 1000lb projectile at half the speed of light would be in the gigaton range. Space trash ejected out of a cruiser at FTL speeds hitting a planet would do damage comparable to a nuclear weapon lol. People have no realization how deadly thing moving at FTL speeds is. But that would make a very short game.

[@Cooldude-ko7ps]

GrOuNdZeRo7777 A gigaton is 1000 megatons and yeah

[@joshuahadams]

@@GrOuNdZeRo7777 An Orbital Defence Platform fires a 3,000,000kg tungsten slug at 4% the speed of light, just shy of 12 million kilometres per second. There are 300 over Earth. Pretty much the only reason the Covenant managed to land was they came out of Slipspace close enough to Earth that they couldn’t be bombarded by ~150 Super MACS.

[@Omega4Productions]

Johnson would win just by telling them what the ladies like.

[@christopherberman9583]

Oh, he knows...

[@MonumentToSin]

Johnson would win with 2 sticks and a rock

[@ConfusedGuardsman]

@@MonumentToSin while sharing the rock!

[@garsaxon44]

Johnson could just wingk at them and would easily win

[@AshleyDoingSonething]

Lol, "To make things fair no Forerunner structures". Yeah I bet. Sucks to be the Reapers in a Universe with a far superior ancient alien race

[@preddes6522]

@Jessica Davidson more advanced than forerunner tech are you insane?

[@preddes6522]

@Cosmic Rift then you know nothing of the forerunners. The halo rings are cool but compared to other technology they possess, they are expected.

[@egorex1834]

@Cosmic Rift Do you? For some reason, I doubt that. The Forerunners had battle suits that could destroy whole cities by itself and they consider those common foot soldier equipment. Just four cruisers were able to destroy one of the original Halo rings, which were 30,000km in diameter. Even the miners routinely destroy planets just for dem sweet sweet resources. But apparently that's weak. Sure...

[@egorex1834]

@Cosmic Rift Sure. Whatever you say, dude. I didn't know Star Wars had civilizations that could casually cause stars to go supernova without using some experimental, expensive to produce, superweapon that could only be used 11 times.

[@egorex1834]

@Jessica Davidson Subjective? Things get subjective when debates starts to revolve around someone's opinion or personal taste instead of proven facts. I have already given said facts above. There is no need for it to be subjective any longer. If anything, you're the one who's making it subjective. You say 50,000 Reapers has 400kt cannons and all of them combined can destroy a planet. On the surface it sounds cools but by the standards of the higher tier sci-fi civilizations, its pathetic. Star Wars routinely does that with Base Delta Zeroes. With just three Star Destroyers, they can melt the outer layer of a planet in a matter of hours. In Warhammer 40k, only one capital ship is needed to turn an entire planet into wastelands devoid of life and atmosphere. Planet destroying events are the norm in 40k. It takes the entire Reaper fleet gathered around a single planet (which they will never do) to replicate what the Empire and Imperium can do. The Forerunners break planets just...for...resources. Literally. Look at the Miner caste. In Spartan Assault, they built a Death Star that could destroy and build planets. There's also: "Before I assumed the carapace, I was a Miner. I improperly set forward a planet's destruction, to reduce it to space-borne rubble." Halo: Silentium page 126. And I sincerely hope you don't think a mere 50,000 Reapers can defeat the Forerunners. The Empire has more ships than that. In Halo: Warfleet pg. 81. "Millions of Sojourners were raised and thrown against the Flood, but in the end only a handful remained intact to see Halo fire." Those were the numbers of Forerunner ships for just ONE ship class. And it's a capital ship. There's still the millions of support ships and probably billions of fighters. They have more warships than the Reapers have fighters. Indoctrination is the only thing that gives them the edge. Even then it's not enough. Indoctrination takes time as well as exposure to even work. Forerunner soldiers are also equipped with AI that can shutdown their brains if they even seem like they've been indoctrinated. You mean the Mass Relay that took at least 40 seconds to explode? 50 secs if we count scene transitions. And wasn't it the asteroid that caused the Relay to explode? As far as I know, the Reapers never possessed a way to manually detonate a Mass Relay. And speaking of destroying systems, the Infinity with a scrapped Forerunner engine duct taped unto its ass was able to outrun a supernova. Now imagine what actual Forerunner ships could do. :)

[@DeeonleeCobb373]

How to win against Reapers: "Remember that accident a couple years back? Colony Ship en route to Cygnus. 700 dead."

[@wearywanderer7018]

Set it off in a cluster of like 20 or more reapers 👍

[@Warriorcat_Youtube]

This could be a viable strategy. If a ship is critically damaged, and within range of the Reapers/out of range of the UNSC, a slipspace suicide bomb could do WORK

[@Nightfury17728]

Could they survive? Absolutely. All they need is 1 sniper jackal on legendary difficulty

[@piotrmiler234]

They have thousands of them :)

[@vinkhe861]

They have hundreds of thousands of them :)

[@lukejones6742]

I could see harbinger talking shit then immediately getting nailed from a jackal who was halfway across the galaxy

[@piotrmiler234]

@@lukejones6742 Cortana: But what if he miss ? John : He won't .

[@griffingower1883]

And all the reapers need are billions of Brutes on Insanity difficulty

[@jasonmoore7772]

"Shipmaster they outnumber us 3 to 1" "Then it is an even fight"

[@minusfellow]

Jason Moore “All ships fire at will. Burn their metal hides.”

[@garsaxon44]

Mate that’s unfair to the 3

[@christopherthurber8667]

Mongrol hides*

[@nichsa8984]

machine AI grim reaper actually appear the alien huge

[@fluent4530]

Chris Thurber Derr

[@exspiravit3335]

I don’t know, just one Player controlled monitor with a killball is pretty deadly

[@nucleye9515]

I laughed more than I should've when I read this

[@exspiravit3335]

Nucleye thank you, that made my day good sir

[@ImAFKTho]

HAHA

[@umtrain1730]

Joshua Gamez Dude I laughed my ass off in my room.

[@justincoloma3721]

Joshua Gamez Not to mention they can just delete things from existence

[@Espoir381]

Three sentences: 1. Post-war UNSC FTL can do very precise jump 2. Nova bomb 3. UNSC FTL jump + nova bomb in the middle of the reaper fleet = ???

[@sahajthind7234]

Basically They’re fucked

[@vkobevk]

or let infinity solo reaper 😂

[@OptimusHighMegaBong]

Or get indoctrinated months prior Lol

[@DarthDragon007]

Well it'll be devastating on 2 fronts (if the Reapers are susceptible to emp). The Nova is a planet killer and given that you toss it into the Reaper fleet, it doesn't matter how fast they are if they have no space to maneuver lolz!

[@flowerthencrranger3854]

Reapers are resistente to that shit Only the reapers can end the reapers

[@lukeengelhardt6454]

Reaper: We are the pinnacle of- *gets shredded by ODP MAC cannons*

[@piotrmiler234]

Or ramed by infinity .

[@PR0F3SR_X]

Lmao Sgt. Johnson could drop them with just two sticks and a rock

[@kabob0077]

If God is Love then you can call him Cupid.

[@ijn4438]

WHAT IS THAT GODDAMN SQUID DOING IN OUR SPACE!? MARINES, WE WILL USE THESE TWO STICKS AND A ROCK AND SHOVE IT UP THEIR CEPHALOPOD ASSES SO HARD THEY WILL EJECT FROM THE GALAXY!

[@kabob0077]

IJN YES, SERGEANT MAJOR!

[@mesmerwolf0]

Totally read that in his voice. busted out laughing at work, thanks for that. :D

[@22steve5150]

even if he has to share the rock.

[@r4geme226]

Damn, the chills that i get from „Leaving Earth“. Such a good soundtrack...

[@Raz0rking]

The whole trillogy was the shit...up until 15minutes before the end. And the other game..we dont talk about that one

[@r4geme226]

Raz0rking Don‘t talk about the one that should not have been. It was a heretic, a black mark on this otherwise glorious franchise. And yes, the ending was shit, even if you installed the MEHEM Mod. This ending was not worthy of this Science Fiction masterpiece.

[@pyrolopez854]

R4geMe sad to say I think personally it's going to be a hard fight for the UNSC and a covenant to push this back but yeah that song gives me the chills at times especially when you're looking at something that big coming your way

[@bb-6359]

ME1 and ME2 will always have a special place in my heart... you just felt so immersed and emotional, and everything you did as a player, impacted what happened and what you felt in the game... ME3 was pretty good as well, especially the run up to the end battle, and then, of course they fucking decided THAT A FUCKING 3 WAY CHOICE DICTATED BY A PRESS OF A SINGLE BUTTON WAS AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO END OFF THIS EPIC TRILOGY, BACKED WITH SOME ANNOYING DIALOGUE BY SOME PREPUBESCENT HOLOGRAM KID..... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[@chiefsenpai969]

True man. The soundtrack at the intro of the video did give the sense of fear necessary to come from the Reapers.

[@xsir_diablox3113]

Reapers: We can invade your galaxy Flood: That's where you're wrong kiddo

[@minusfellow]

Bryce Swiger oh god lol

[@christinaromanova4357]

There is no invasion .There is only the harvest!😁

[@spartanalex9006]

Tyranids: Hold my liquid biomass.

[@austina4677]

@@spartanalex9006 mannn, the flood vs the tyranids starting off from the beginning would be a damn good fight, i think the flood would take the advantage eventually though

[@SuperScarab]

@@spartanalex9006 actually it is said that the floods are the most powerful parasite ever created in a sci fi universe, so floods are actually stronger than tyranids as well, a full lore wise comparison have been done between them

[@abusedumpster8882]

“Could the Halo Universe survive a reaper invasion?” Guess we’ll see with halo infinite

[@kai-jf2vd]

Aw shit you're right those darn guardians.

[@MasterHall117]

@@kai-jf2vd I’ve got news for ye both

[@richardallot3134]

HAHAH bout that chief

[@grob8367]

For all you green horns who wanted to see Reapers up close, Today is gonna be your lucky day. MOVE IT OUT! DOUBLE TIME!

[@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ]

"Dear Humanity... We regret being mechanical bastards. We regret coming to Earth. And we most definitely regret that the Corps just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!"

[@grob8367]

OORAH!

[@minusfellow]

“We’ve all run the simulations, there tough but they ain’t invincible stay with the Commander he’ll know what to do”

[@ryandunham1047]

@@minusfellowYES SIR, SERGEANT!

[@UNYEILDING]

Even in the weakened state, the UNSC fought nearly three decades of completely asymmetric warfare in every imaginable aspect and managed to come back stronger. The Reapers are stepping into a galaxy that might be numerically weak, but almost every one of them will be a veteran of solar system crushing combat. The Reapers at best have a 3:1 advantage and in the words of Ship Master Rtas 'Vadum, "Then it is an even fight. All cruisers, fire at will. Burn their mongrel hides."

[@pauldelorean4339]

Agreed.

[@weeerazer3099]

hehe :3

[@franknbeans1176]

Paul Delorean agreed!

[@ragemonkey117]

UNYIELDING idk man. Reaper ships are fucking powerful

[@alexanerose4820]

The UNSC BARELY SURVIVED the war against the covenant. True they won plenty of ground battles but that was thanks to mostly the Spartans. Would they kick but alongside covenant forces against the reapers? Other than the ships grounding themselves they definitely would. In space? The Covenant fleet is your best chance. Sure we have MAC guns but energy weapons would do better and more reliably against these guys. After a few good Salvos, I'd say the humans get routed, get in as many covenenat ships as possible, rally the covenant back, then charge with the Arbiter and Chief on either a super carrier or the infinity, get a few hundred, and then get assimilated with the reapers taking note of both Arbiter and Chiefs bravery.

[@elijahstewart7937]

The flood comes in and consumes everyone “oh we forgot about them”

[@takkarsasori8961]

do you think the flood can be indoctrinated?

[@ninedivines5374]

@@takkarsasori8961 probably not especially because even the forerunners had total cures for mental illness that would work in seconds so a race that not only remembers how to make that but also made everything alive in the galaxy I'll go out on a limb here say they can't be indoctrinated.

[@romanninja777]

@@takkarsasori8961 I don't think so either. But the flood could use the logic plague against the reapers AI.

[@dungeonguy88]

@@romanninja777 Eh, I'm not sure the logic plague, as I understand it, would have any effect on Reaper AIs. Nevermind that Reaper AIs are exceptionally powerful in terms of intellect and processing power, able to subvert entire AI-empires on their own too. But the logic plague is ultimately rooted in persuasion and making irrefutable arguments, that ultimately subvert most AIs. The issue with the Reapers is...they just don't care about any arguments that are made against them. While vastly intelligent and creative in how they handle the task they have before them, they perform it with unerring focus. They're...stubborn for lack of a better word. And there's just the issue of scale. Cortana was able to weather and endure the Gravemind's compulsions and attempts to subvert her for a quite a long time. Each individual Reaper is essentially just the billions of minds of a civilization that's been absorbed by the Reapers molded into a singular will. And it's done through a process that would make any of the torture the Gravemind could try to inflict seem trivial. The scale is just so much bigger.

[@roninkahn4033]

@@dungeonguy88 That's s good argument but the flood do not care how long it takes, a key mind is a literal flood planet with the knowledge and power of previous gravemind meaning a primordial, the keymind or gravemind could use neural physics to convert reapers into flood allies, if it take thousands of years it would still happen since they were able to convert mendicant bias, us the reapers do have logic within them since the ai in mass effect 3 was willing to change its plans like it did with shepard since he changed something, and I'd a gravemind use neural physics to communicate with the ai or a single reaper then it would pretty much be over

[@averypetterson6811]

Reapers: You are divided and wounded. Our conquest is unstoppable Banished: Allow us to introduce ourselves

[@UNSCPILOT]

or, goodness forbid, they accidentally Run across the Shield World of Onyx and the Terrifying Sentinals there just shread them into feed stock for their sentinal factories

[@masterblaster3508]

You mean the fodder banished that got stop by a single old commission carrier that is near 30 years old? Lmao. Only roughly 10,000 marines, 3 spartans, and at least 2,000 ODST and they FOUGHT overwhelming forces in direct battles.

[@VSTMM270]

@@masterblaster3508 halo infinite banished just chillin.

[@charlottewalnut3118]

@@masterblaster3508 they got their forces cut off by lack of teleporting and their ship got blown up but still destroyed the infinity

[@iamMildlyUpsetWithMostOfYouTub]

@@masterblaster3508 meanwhile infinite essentially tells us that the banished stomped every other faction.

[@LAF0NT]

Man, it's literally been years, that speech used in the opening still makes me mad as hell and ready kill anything that glows red or vaguely resembles a space squid.

[@bubblesjenkins9722]

Artillery Joe underrated comment😂

[@LeroyJ12]

holy shit, same! xD

[@BlackWing117]

Imagine if the Forerunners where still alive in this scenario. They would look at the Reapers and just switch them off like annoying toys. xD

[@tomcorniea9297]

Imagine if the precursors were alive in this fight.

[@darthrevan704]

Tom corniea they would just create a race like the orks in 40k to overwhelm the reapers

[@tomcorniea9297]

@@darthrevan704 Yeah.

[@Justaguy852]

@@darthrevan704 that or they would create one million master chiefs to send at them.

[@Obsidian_Fury775]

Tom corniea omfg yes but I think it would be a *tie*

[@ssumbra5648]

Just thinking the face a reaper would have when they get 1 shoted by a supermac made me laught ahahahah

[@johnparker7663]

Haha yeah. Thé reaper would not stand against super MAC

[@jacobhayes1239]

One shot, 20 kills

[@nichsulol4844]

@@johnparker7663 the wild sci-fi ship

[@iSeeCorpses]

You know When you play mass effect. At the end, The starbrat said the reapers isn't interested in wars, they're just made for Harvesting a cycle every 50.000 million years, So prolly they dont care about how much they lost, they will still continue there Harvest

[@MasterHall117]

@@jacobhayes1239 *HYPERLETHAL* -Possibly a new 20 kill streak medal in Halo Infinite

[@LMG1792]

It’s always hard to take two different types of galaxies. I would still give it to Halo as we have seen the UNSC show what they can do in the face of impossible odds. And now with even fewer ships you have the elites running all the ships with their ships. It would be costly but I still would give it to UNSC and it’s allies.

[@Yash-lx5xr]

Ya I mean if the reapers out number them 3 to 1 it's an even fight

[@silvercrescent1264]

The problem is that the scale of this video is indescribably wrong. Reapers wage a galactic scale war, in Halo the war barely took up a section of a galactic arm. They could crush the Halo empires we see with ease because of economy of scale differences in waging a regional war and a GALACTIC WAR. If you played Stellaris you would understand this. An Empire that has a military capable of fielding a galactic level offensive is unstoppable compared to an empire waging a regional war. There are some mods that let you start in an extragalactic cluster. I used them and when I hit the galaxy (because I captured a number of superstructures and had an immense combat capability) I was unstoppable simply because I was a galactic capable military. I was in a war against every empire on the map that wasn't an ancient empire and winning simply due to the fact that my military was just orders of magnitude larger. My tech wasn't necessarily better, there were even enemies that had bigger ships than me. But I was grinding them to dust simply because I had the power to project my military so much further than them

[@hamiltonrhys9277]

@@silvercrescent1264 The Reapers Galaxtic Scale War only takes up 1% of the Galaxy due to the Mass Relays.

[@tvanzyl3143]

You forgot the reason why a small underdeveloped Navy with unshielded ships managed to win a protracted war a against a force that outnumbered them almost a hundred to one. The Master Chief

[@masonsmith9619]

Also that whole Cole protocol thing, but yeah, pretty much

[@JoahTheThread5ive]

I don't think the UNSC would have won if the elites had not switched sides.

[@deriznohappehquite]

They won because the Elites, Hunters, Engineers and Grunts split away from the Covenant.

[@Wrath_Incarnate]

Can't help but noticed everyone missed the fact that it was a joke, a semi serious joke, as the Chief and the other Spartans did allow a lot of time to be prepared to defend against Covenant by massacring a good deal of Covenant soldiers, but a joke none the less.( Not forgetting that Chief was the one who found Halo and destroyed it, which kick started a whole series events that led to end of the war)

[@squiglemcsquigle8414]

Lol

[@Cameron088]

I do believe this video, but you forgot and underestimated one thing: The Infinity. The thing is literally a forerunner ship, but just made Human. It has advanced shielding, highly powerful weapons, and it also has a powerful reactor. The Infinity survived a crash in Requiem, when it was dragged in by a highly powerful gravity well. The ship was able to get going once the wells were taken out, as well as its powerful particle cannons. It also was able to Smash right through a Covenant Cruiser with little effort and took *no* damage due to the reverse-engineered shields from the Forerunners. Now on the MAC cannon, the MAC from the Infinity easily punched a hole through the Didacts ship, a advanced ship designed to withstand a lot. The Infinity was definitely underestimated in this.

[@MrGA555]

You forgot that the Infinity has 4 of these macs.

[@Charistoph]

I don't think he underestimated the Infinity at all. He was saying many of the UNSC ships could take on multiple Reavers, including the predecessor of the Infinity. However, the problem is the timing of the invasion and the number of Infinity's class that would be available for the fight. The Japanese made the biggest battleship ever made, yet it could only be in one place at a time and was swarmed under by the fighters, and the UNSC was still recovering from the massive devastation of the Covenant War, so didn't have a strong fleet or defenses in place like they did at the beginning of said war.

[@vkobevk]

@@Charistoph because it seem infinity is able to solo the whole reaper fleet and in halo 4 it seem they rebuild their super mac station and plz dont compare infinity with the yamato infinity is not only big, but has also very advanced technology, so it is more a kirov class vs ww2 american navy than yamato class, the infiny use some forunner technology, so it is like if we put anti air missile, 21 century advanced radar and sonar, 21 century computer and nuclear reactor to yamato remember than forunner technology is like several hundred thousands years more advanced than covenant technology

[@Charistoph]

​@@vkobevk, I compared it because it was the biggest Battleship ever created, but when used alone it didn't do its job properly. If you can't see the comparisons there, then you are over-estimating the situation. While MAC guns are great at long range, if they managed to get even a couple Destroyers in to (literal) grappling range of the Infinity, I'm not sure how well it would be able to fight them off (aside from a couple lucky Spartan teams). Remember Ekhart did point out that outside of the MACs, the Reavers do handle UNSC's weapon tech fairly well, as much of it is actually quite similar to what is being used by Shepherd's fleet. Covenant tech is a bit different, as it is less mass-based and more plasma-based.

[@vkobevk]

@@Charistoph infinity using forunner technology, its power reactor, shield and slipspace are forunner technology so it is like if you put 21 century technology to yamato, radar, sonar, computer, anti air missile, drones, anti ship missiles, modern torpedoes and nuclear engine and you will transform your yamato into kirov class and we will see if ww2 us airplaine will be able to come close to kirov at less of 100 km before to be shoot down by kirov missiles in halo 4 we see infinity ramming without damage a covenant destroyer, so reaper will be one shooted and will be not able to damage the human dreadnought and infinity has superior ftl than reaper, so infinity will never let reaper regroup their force to form a fleet

[@diamondinthesky4771]

That moment when you realize the Halo universe has 400-500+ years of additional tech advancement than the Mass Effect universe does.

[@wintersnoob]

But the Reapers have billions of years over the Forerunners. So yeah...

[@templarlad392]

@@wintersnoob The power and shielding of Mass Effect is measured in kilotons. The power of a reaper capital ship's main cannon is 450 kilotons. The shield strength alone of just a single CCS battlecruiser is speculated at, according to Installation 00's video he did a while back, 14 GIGATONS. That is over 4 orders of magnitude stronger. That is over 30,000x stronger to be more precise. The MAC gun on an ODP is 52 Gigatons. Now you factor in hull strength which is also designed with Gigatons in mind. It would take nearly the entire reaper armada even with the fleet size you use to focus fire on just 1 CCS battlecruiser to bring it down. Then you factor in the strength of the Infinity, CAS assault carriers, autumn class cruisers, and CSO super carriers which are way stronger in damage yield and shield strength and then slightly weaker marathon class frigates. Now consider they can destroy multiple ships with 1 shot especially the Inifinity as it has 4 super MACs on board, so they can fire at will destroying thousands of reapers in a few seconds. The sheer power power difference is too great. It's like asking could 1 million Gokus before 100x gravity training beat final form Freeza. The Halo ships can fire a few volleys, slip space jump out of there and back in, fire some more from behind, and repeat before the reapers ever got into range. The reapers have no chance. - DFed324 (In response to the power-scaling in this video) The reapers must have stagnated for trillions of years if that's true lmao

[@elib9002]

@@templarlad392 you are wrong because the universes are not the same. Halo doesn't use real math. Whereas in ME the writers tried to keep the numbers on a technically possible to believe stage. Take the rules away and give the reapers the allowance you are giving the halo-verse and all you dreams of halo superiority dies a very silent death as the indoctrination of the reapers flows over you and all the forerunners and banished and flood. The reapers have this hands down. Because if the halo-verse we're to enter the mass effect univers then all their vessels would just crumble the moment they enter due to the forces of reality excerted upon them. I get it. I'm a halo fanboy as well, but there is no scifi force equal to the Reapers.

[@templarlad392]

@@elib9002 The only part where it makes sense for me personally to be wrong would be the final sentence in my comment, as the rest of it was just me quoting someone else. The last sentence was also mostly joking anyway, but who really cares haha. I don't believe the fact that these two universes had different approaches to scaling is relevant at all. It ruins the whole point of comparing the universes if you just scale one down because they are to OP in comparison to the other. It would be like scaling down a modern army when comparing them to a medieval army: that ruins the whole point of making the comparison in the first place. But everyone has their own beliefs and all that, and this is a pretty non-consequential argument even by internet standards. So I just thought I'd share my perspective.

[@caurd]

@@templarlad392 Look, those numbers don't matter. Do you think that the creators of the games really do research about what numbers would be consistent or not? Of course not, they just say random numbers when assigning "attack or defense power" of their ships because, to begin with, kilotons or gigatons would not be relevant and the resistance capacity of a shield would not be measured that way. When you shoot at an armored ship, the important thing is not the mulitrons, but the penetration capacity, which would be measured in newtons (and we don't have measurements of that).

[@toeseater2855]

Master chief: hey general, is there anyway that we can deploy a boarding party on the reapers? General: yes, but the eternity is finished, we also are working with the covenant, let us do the job, we could win thi- Master chief: *you know the rules, and so do i*

[@danielawesome36]

*_S I L E N C E , H E R E T I C_*

[@MasterHall117]

*SAY GOOD BYE!*

[@Direwolf9818]

Chief would be stupid to try and board a Reaper, after a few hours or so he’d become indoctrinated

[@piotrmiler234]

@@Direwolf9818 Well , im not sure .

[@thegroovygamer1604]

@@Direwolf9818 chief kills whole entire armies of alien scum alone...with all the odds against him..and there is no chance ..chief can lose when in a boarding party..

[@exspiravit3335]

While the reapers are landing on a planet killing everything and slowly destroy it, The covenant glass it within seconds

[@ninjaslash52_98]

Well I wouldn't say seconds

[@InuyashaFan1208]

And the Reapers are getting their asses handed to them by the Arbiter, Spartans, Master Chief and the rest of Blue Team. Reapers are getting wrecked tonight.

[@AAhmou]

InuyashaFan1208 Reaper IFF all over again.

[@zer0234]

The reapers land on a planet to indoctrinate the habitants. Therefore increasing their own numbers

[@Southern_Crusader]

That is why I know the Reapers fear us. Halo is on the American defense budget.

[@cirrusfox8052]

Ok at first I was thinking "ok this can work, the UNSC and the covenant if working together could destroy the reapers". But then he just handicaps both UNSC and Covenant right off the bat like wtf?

[@MetroVerse]

Probably because the Covenant alone would probably be able to defeat the Reapers already. He wanted to make it interesting.

[@pajamas720]

ikr even at their worst halo still wins about 1/3 of the time

[@ZeroQ2012]

Isn’t that the real answer then ?? If you go out of your way to handicap someone its because you know they’ll win normally

[@yeetseekingmissile3252]

I know

[@fishnutz5196]

I would perfer to see the Reapers vs Prime Covernant (high charity and all)

[@omerfarooqi2256]

This man said we destroyed harbinger in ME1 lmao😂

[@bigj1905]

Ugh, just imagine what a Reaper Spartan could do. I could imagine them tearing entire divisions apart by themselves.

[@supergonnzo4851]

I can see the reapers winning the first few engagements but past that it seems like it would be more a one sided victory for the UNSC/Covenant forces. Battles would be won through mobility not numbers, and given the speed advantage that the Halo universe holds I’m sure it would be more fitting to say it would be hit and run tactics. With the added ability of the covenant forces to use precise in system jumps, the reapers wouldn’t stand a chance.

[@DarthDragon007]

After the Great War humanity pretty much caught up with the Covenant in terms of Slipspace tech. They can make precision jumps with almost the same Ly/d speed (or maybe greater, I dunno).

[@DragonHeart53]

@@DarthDragon007 let's also not forget that they have on several occations, weaponized their own slip space technology. portals can be opened, and potentially have the ship not even pass through. but anything caught part way into the portal when it closes, is sliced cleanly. part of me likes to imagine how easily the UNSC and Covenant (since they do adapt tactics and stratagies when suitable) could use their slip space tech for both hit and run, as well as offense when most weapons lesser than their than their main mass drivers are effective. plus, all covenant weapons are energy based. with plasma torpedoes from their plasma launchers able to disable UNSC ships in single shots. just imagine how well they perform against reapers. since once their shields are down, their armor is actually relatively fragile.

[@Toskin]

@@DragonHeart53 There is also part where Kinetic Barriers are just that: kinetic barriers. They are built to block kinetic strikes above certain treshold (similar to personal shields which allows you to sit on chair and still able to block bullets). Covenant, for example, would get Reapers into heap of problems because of their plasma torpedoes. And even those aside, UNSC have their MACs on higher energy output scale then ME tech is used to. If I remember right, even Reapers are used to high Kilotons of kinetic energy, and UNSC is used to throw megatons around. Also, magnetically accelerated projectiles are *fast*, under certain range even Reaper can't dodge, and gets cored.

[@DragonHeart53]

@@Toskin Exactly, Also, an advantage that UNSC macs have over the Mass effect mass drivers, is the actual Mass part of their weapons. the average main guns of most frigates and cruisers (during human covenant war) used by the UNSC output roughly twice to 3 times the power of the main guns used by dreadnaughts in mass effect. How ever, dreadnaughts in mass effect used only 20 kilogram slugs shot at high velocity. the UNSC, Most MAC guns fired projectiles weighting 600 tons. the super macs, fired them at 3000 tons. But even the smaller ones were beastly. So back to energy output, Even when the frigate macs only output 3 times that of ME's dreadnaughts, the shear mass of the slug has different ballistic properties than ME's puny 20 kilogram slugs. In fact, Due to the shear mass impacting Covenant ships, even if the shields didn't break, some Covenant ships could still be damaged because of the thermal energy being released by such a huge hunk of metal hitting at high velocity. This means, even if the smaller macs used by the UNSC get blocked by Reaper kinetic barriers, it'll still cook the reaper's hulls, which are not as tough as they seem because of how much they rely on their shields to protect them. To give a small example of what I mean, everyone knows when you fire a projectile at twice the speed, it has 3 times the kinetic energy. so say you have 1 bullet fired at mach 1. and then you have a bullet 1/3 the weight fired at mach 2. Both bullets would have the same kinetic energy. however, the two bullets would have different ballistic properties, like the smaller and faster bullet would be armor piercing because it focuses it's energy in a small point to penetrate, but not release all of it's energy into a target. Unlike the bigger and slower bullet, which will be more intended to release all of it's kinetic energy into the target for wide spread damage. for example, a small rifle bullet VS a .45 ACP. both bullets have relatively similar kinetic energies, but the .45 does more bodily damage, while the rifle bullet punches through armor, but will just pierce through the body with less damage done. So while the UNSC use mass drivers with less velocity, they win the damage output because of the shear mass of their mac rounds.

[@dfed324]

@@Toskin megatons is a minimum. The UNSC arsenal like Infinity, ODPs, and I'm pretty sure Autumn class cruisers use gigatons for their MAC cannons.

[@markpugh3648]

One single flood spore can destroy a species.

[@dfasadfsda]

the flood would corrupt the reapers with ease :D

[@jeeeeeensen]

Reapers aren’t biological. The flood couldn’t do shit to reapers.

[@aaroncrawford7884]

@@jeeeeeensen It doesn't matter if reapers aren't biological the flood can infect non-biological beings as well as they did to the monitor of installation 05 and cortana was on the brink of infection till chief pulled her out.

[@Vigilante8841]

@@Snulge Halo 7: High Charity When Master Cheif must deal with the REST of the Flood... AGAIN

[@kurtismay2167]

The reapers are actually synthetic AND organic, whether or not that’s enough for them to be infected, who knows?

[@Dr.Pootis]

Imagine if they invaded pre forerunner-flood war Reapers: "you cannot st-" Forerunners: *"b e g o n e"*

[@MrVidman14]

Imagine if they invaded during the end stages of the Forerunners-Flood War Gravemind: *slaps the entire invasion force with Star Roads*

[@francoismeulenberg4641]

@@MrVidman14 woah.. reapers infected with the logic plageu.. that would not be good.

[@Spider-Man2094]

The Didact: “Time was your ally, Harbinger. But now it has abandoned you.”

[@thatoneguy9615]

Something that I often see in any vs with the reapers is people underestimating their two most powerful weapons. Reaper indoctrination and patience. Sovereign was sowing discord in the galaxy for a thousand years before the invasion began. They invaded because they knew if all the species worked together with suicidal fervor the reapers would still win with acceptable casualties. As they return to the galaxy and find things drastically different, they will study. If they think they are outmatched, they will watch, learn, infiltrate, and nothing is really stopping them from upgrading themselves as they come to understand any tech of their enemies that they see as superior.

[@Big_Red1]

Seriously, its strongly hinted at that the reapers indoctrinated the Rachni to start the Rachni wars, 2000 years before the events of the games. During that wait time, I would imagine that the reapers would try to implement any tech they find that is more advanced than their own as well. They have more than enough time and patience to do so.

[@diamondinthesky4771]

​@@Big_Red1 I'm replying now to remind you guys of one thing - the Flood. They aren't mentioned in this video are factored into the conflict, but they have the logic plague. Which is basically indoctrination...but for synthetics. I feel like the Reapers invading the Halo universe would result in a Flood Outbreak, and like the Horizon mission in ME3 it's only a matter of time before the Flood and the Reapers start killing each other. The Halo Galaxy could even make up a last ditch plan to sick the two onto each other in a "Let them Fight" strategy. Reaper indoctrination meeting the Flood's logic plague would absolutely cause a bloodbath. Imagine an entire fleet of Reapers that have been manipulated by the Flood, turned against not just the other Reapers but against all other life as well. Literally their own biggest weapon used against them.

[@ZettyLad]

@@diamondinthesky4771Then those Flood reapers carrying flood spores to thousands of inhabited worlds. I didn’t even think about that. This war could end up having a victor that wasn’t even considered.

[@lordshaxx4693]

Space Squid vs Newton’s first law

[@helpme7663]

lmao

[@Reyma777]

Covenant and UNSC ships seem generally stronger than Alliance and Geth vessels. I just don’t see Reapers, including Sovereign class ships and Harbinger being able to tank heavy MAC rounds or Covenant Glassing Beams. The Reapers dominated the alliance because they influenced the technologic progression of the sentient species. Therefore, they were innately at an advantage. The Covenant at their full strength, pre-great schism, would easily beat back the Reapers.

[@EskChan19]

Reapers had their cycle that was generally set exactly in a way that no lifeform could become advanced enough to defeat them. And they made sure that everything eventually resolved arround their technology. Mass Relays, the Citadel and so on. The Halo Species didn't. They strived freely. Especially the Convenant, using mostly Forerunner technology would prove highly effective against Reapers. The Glassing-Beam is actually a pretty good point. Reaper Ships were using kinetic shielding, since all races in the Mass Effect Universe used projectiles. They are barely shielded against Plasma Weapons.

[@JoshArgentine]

But Eck, you forgot the Reapers' biggest weakness: protagonists with million-mile-thick plot armour! : D

[@piotrmiler234]

If that is Shepard plot armor i dont want to know how heavy is Chief armor .

[@lachlanmckinnie1406]

The next question is: could the Reapers survive a brush with the Imperium of Man?

[@ConfusedGuardsman]

I beat up half of my universe and those guys scare the crap out of me. The reapers lose.

[@Outkast-sv9es]

There's a good reason why 40k is kept away from sci-fi matchups. They would wipe out every filthy xenos for their existence is heresy itself and an insult to the imperium of man. The emperor protects.

[@stubbornspaceman7201]

Outkast1337 Reckoning dickless fanatic

[@azzythechristianfurry]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha! No. Heck no lmao. Doesn’t their technology just work because they say it does? “I think we’re out of fuel.” “Nah, I totally refueled.” >Didn’t refuel >Keeps flying anyway A Reaper invasion would be over within a matter of hours.

[@mickeylotoc4380]

@@Outkast-sv9es damn straight brother. *THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!*

[@jonathanpirolo3996]

you know your channel gets me into more things that I never cared about like mass effect and fallout and so much more that I never cared for thanks dude

[@Frodo_Shaggins]

The thing with this match up is that the reapers easily destroyed civilizations in Mass Effect due to those civilizations using reaper based tech that was weaker than reaper tech, which the reapers took advantage of, so they gave em a huge slap to their space faces within the first day of invasion

[@scofield1154]

No they don't, At the beginning of the cycles, Harbinger single-handedly destroyed the entire galaxy in the first few cycles. Protheans took down 0 Reapers I believe. Reapers are meant to be way way more powerful than anything in the galaxy, although like any other superadvanced A.I. if you somehow breach Reaper's defenses and get to his "brain" you can kill him, but getting through a Reaper is next to impossible. Lets not also forget that Harbinger is extremely intelligent.

[@overlord4404]

reapers are meant to be more powerful than any race that uses ME based tech, and no, harbinger was the first reaper that was created, you can even read that at that time the galaxy was bassicly under leviathan control so it would be easy to kill others and make more reapers. also harbinger is just an average AI, nothing special

[@colt4531]

Unfortunately the writers ruined harbinger in me3, or well Reapers in general

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

Overlord Leviathans =/= Reapers. Harbinger is indeed the first Reaper, and did harvest the first few cycles by himself.

[@theodorehodbor5080]

The thing about Reapers is they're only really effective within the Mass Effect universe because they basically gamed the galaxy at that point. The reason they're so successful is because they engineered both the mass relays and the Citadel, both things which are then used by the native civilizations to a heavy degree through FTL travel and the seat of government. From this point the Reapers are incredibly effective at crippling the civilizations because the Citadel acts as a mass relay for them, so they effectively swoop right in, destroy the civilization's head of government, and then shut down the entire FTL network for the remaining civilizations. Also even then this system is rather weak considering that the Reapers' plans end up failing when the Citadel wouldn't respond to them and they have to go in manually (even if it was ultimately a mcguffin in the end that did them in). The thing is though this whole situation the Reapers have cultivated would fall apart as soon as you encounter a race that didn't want to use their tech. Take, for example, the highly xenophobic Imperium of Man, where anyone who even suggested using the mass relays or the Citadel would very likely get executed by their local Inquisitor. Once the Reapers would initiate their attack they'd probably first find the Citadel still derelict, if even there at all if the Imperium didn't destroy it in their rampant xenophobia. Then, when the Reapers would attempt to shut down their FTL system the Imperium would largely still be unaffected by it since they never used them to begin with. Because of this the Reapers at this point would either have to rely on their numbers alone and their FTL, which is likely faster than Warp travel. However, since the Imperium wouldn't be beholden to using the relays, they could likely just destroy them to weaken the Reaper advance, even though that'll probably destroy whatever system the relay is in (the Imperium doesn't care about collateral damage). Basically, if a civilization isn't conformist to the Reaper's technology and FTL system there's a high likelihood that they will have a much greater difficulty with trying to wipe them out. At that point it'll likely depend on the tech level of the civilization in question and how far spread they are in the galaxy.

[@tsarfox3462]

The main advantages the Reapers have are also their biggest weakness. They tailor make their enemies to have weakpoints and then exploit them, they always attack their enemy right before it could ever advance enough to be a threat, they know the area of engagement better than their enemy, etc. Essentially they are nigh perfectly designed to overwhelmingly win against a very specific enemy in a very specific set of circumstances. When you take them out of their comfort zone they're still somewhat impressive but, no where near as much as in their element.

[@khajiitimanus7432]

Especially since, although the UNSC use some kinetic weaponry, the Covenant exclusively use energy weaponry.

[@garrisonpaquette997]

The one big thing that I think was missed in this video was how effectively Reapers can annihilate supply lines. While the Reapers need no support, using small reaper forces to wipe out supply lines would be crippling to the halo forces on a fundamental scale.

[@lordmazdamundi2847]

This video have a huge lack of information for both sides... And power cap them. Reapers are reduced to 1600 capital ships while they have ten of thousands of them. And even more destroyers and even more Oculus for exemple. There is also the indoctrination which can be caused by even the Reaper horn sound if i remember well. So just hearing it can seed the indoctrination in your mind who will slowly turn you as a Reaper agent, and again all the ground units reapers have (Husk to banshees etc...) And Halo side there's a lot of informations and things lacking too, well, you see what i'm saying. Tho the video is a good try from the creator.

[@Kjf365]

"We are each a nation. Independent of one another." And it's also not accounting for the fact that they can simply reaper-ize any species they can get their hands on, as well as mix them as they want. Imagine a Spartan-Elite reaper unit.

[@Kjf365]

@@lordmazdamundi2847 It's not the horn, it's a barely perceptible buzzing that can come from simply being near any reaper technology that's even slightly powered.

[@MD_Hooligan]

Hell no. I don’t want Master Chief to choose between 3 endings that are-the-same-only-with-different-colours. Shepherd already did it.

[@WereThieves]

xD Damn... 117 likes.

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

Someone didn't play Mass Effect 1 & 2.

[@colt4531]

maybe they are all the same because shepard was indoctrinated and didnt actually save the galaxy, we lost and the reapers won :0

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

Endings are not the same. Maybe they are to some of you if you played the game before they patched it.

[@slims2503]

They fixed the ending after a short time. All 3 endings where different for me.

[@RkAdefilmz]

1600 seems like a severe underestimation for Reaper Forces. They blanket the entire galaxy. You couldn't do that with so few

[@Direwolf9818]

Like for real at the end of ME3 the galaxy map is completely covered by the reapers.

[@Kjf365]

Millions of years of converting entire civilizations into more reapers. That's going to add up.

[@reedallen4613]

Plus there are several other things to factor in. 1st. - the amount of known space in the Mass Effect games is less than 10% of the entire galaxy, and many people seem to think that since other races/species beyond known space weren't shown/mentioned then that means no other advanced species exist other than what's in the game. 2nd - the Reapers are FAR older and FAR more numerous than what most people like to think. Sovereign itself told Shepherd and company that "we are legion. Our numbers will darken the skies of every world" in Mass Effect 1, and later in Mass Effect 3 Leviathan tells Shepherd that there were "countless" cycles BEFORE the creation of the Citadel and Mass Relays, and "countless" cycles BEFORE the cycles were streamlined to the 50,000 year intervals. 3rd - with known space/Council Space being 10% of the entire galaxy AT MOST, the Reapers shown in Mass Effect 3 are merely a tiny fraction of their total numbers. Based on what is said by both Sovereign and Leviathan, my opinion is that the number of Reapers shown in the game would be the equivalent of a single fighter squadron as far as their total numbers, while the rest of the Reapers throughout the rest of the Galaxy BEYOND known space/Council Space would be the equivalent of a full battle fleet as far as numbers in comparison to the ones we actually see. But that's just my own personal opinion anyway.

[@jakebarrett8161]

*sees title* *laughs in arbiter/spartan hybrid* "Sir, some robotic squids are attacking us." "Tell the boys it's seafood tonight." In all seriousness, the Reapers are something of a joke as xenocide monsters go. They've only won because their victims are using obsolete Reaper technology and playing by their rules. Against literally any other sci-fi culture that doesn't use mass effect technology or the mass relay, Reapers are useless.

[@DanQZ]

What you don’t get here is that power is relative. That’s like saying the Roman Empire was a joke of an empire because the Imperium of Man could beat them in a fight.

[@jakebarrett8161]

@@DanQZ I know it's relative. But in the context of this video it's exactly that: the Roman Empire vs the Imperium in terms of power. If the Reapers appeared in the Hall universe they'd get wiped out fast.

[@DanQZ]

@@jakebarrett8161 the way you worded it implies they’re less of a threat than other apocalypse causing monsters. Reapers are probably one of the most dangerous “xenocide monsters” ever invented since they hold all the cards and had a 100% success rate for billions of years. If it’s comparing effectiveness, reapers are just as strong as any other even when compared to factions with objectively more brute force. I should have specified I was specifically addressing your “xenocide monster” line.

[@lordmazdamundi2847]

@@DanQZ A thing that it seems people often forgot is the number of reapers. If each civilisations destroyed by the reaper is used to create a reaper then it would make a LOT of reaper since they are very, very old. And it's just for capital ships, the number of destroyers and oculus the reapers have are far beyond any number we can imagine.

[@BaxsStudios]

I mean the reapers greatest weapon is its intelligence and use of manipulation. They had the strings at hand for millions of years. They wouldnt simply invade the halo universe they would infiltrate, watch manipulate, gather technology from the forerunners itself, rebuild themselves to be more effective against the technology in Halo and become much more powerful then ever before.

[@jimbeaux89]

There’s WAY more than 1,600 reapers, that’s for sure.

[@ThrawnFett123]

(LONG POST WARNING) I'm a bigger Mass Effect fan than I am a Halo fan, but I think the Halo Universe will take this for two main reasons: 1. Humanity and the Swords of Sanghelios have already proven they are willing to band together against a common threat (and I think they would put the Flood and Reapers in a similar category with each other based on the husk technology) 2. Humanity has a war machine centered around total warfare, and most of it's post-war issues center around the fact that they have different factions playing tug of war against each other for funding of their own secret projects. Give them a focus again and they will quickly start building the most effective platforms as fast as they can. My personal "last nail" in the Reaper invasion coffin is they are so physically slow that even at full throttle (instantly winning any fights with no appreciable delay) they won't be able to conquer even the Human's in the Halo Universe in less than approximately 241 days (This is based on the stated distance from Earth to Requiem of 7230 Lightyears, which using that as a measure of Humanity's minimum sphere of influence and dividing that by the 30 Lightyear per day speed of the Reapers is how I arrive at that number). I will be using the ODP's to demonstrate my next point, since unlike most everything else there is a definitive timeline for their manufacturing, and they are large complex and extremely powerful machines which makes them a good analog for what it would take resource wise to build individual ships that can take on at least one Reaper. It took humanity 5 years (1825 Days) to completely rebuild the ODP network around Earth from scratch after the war (There are 300 ODP's in the Earth Network). While I don't claim they were building them single file one after the other (much more realistically in series of perhaps 5-25 at once) this timeline translates to slightly over 6 days of effort to build a single ODP. This is all notwithstanding the additional expansion construction and rearmament of the Post War (or reduced threat environment) Fleet. Assuming they can construct these ships at a similar rate to the ODP's (and since they are built already it is fairly likely that the production capacity has ALREADY been retooled to Fleet ships) this means that Humanity would be able to create roughly 39.5 in an all out "Reaper Zerg Rush" scenario. This only gets worse for the Reapers as you start to take into account the actual time needed to assault and pacify Human worlds, intelligence gathering, the splitting of the forces to launch an attack against the Swords of Sanghelios, conflict with additional Covenant Remnants, and Human delaying assaults. As stated in the video, Eckhart believes the pre-war Covenant would destroy the Reapers easily, however the Human-Covenant War took over 27 years with faster ships as the aggressors. Throughout this the Halo Universe (and very especially Humanity) will be able to constantly re-arm and expand, versus the Reapers who will be able to create ground troops but will not be able to replace their capitol ship losses. My final result's: Halo wins 9/10 times. In order to stand a chance the Reapers must find a way to crush the Human war-machine well before attrition truly enters the fight, and before attacking the individually superior (against their technology at least) but much much slower to reinforce Sangheili's ships.

[@wolfblade31jones55]

Very valid points, also the Halo forces could do continuous hit and run tactics with Slipspace to further slow and drain the Reapers. Humanity in Halo have also showed their willingness to sacrifice everything for their races survival (side effect of nearing three decades of genocide) so placing nuclear mines (which surely the UNSC will start churning out) in orbit while further drain them. The Halo universe knows how to play the attrition game, and know how to do it well. And even discounting Forerunner tech like Eckhart did it just won’t go well for what we’ve seen if both sides. Me and my friend who is a MASSIVE Mass Effect talk about this version of a fight a lot (because staying in a Sheila world, use time dilation and come out five hundred years latter for Halo with a Tonne of ships, compared to the outside few hours is cheating) And we’ve both come to the conclusion 7/10 Halo wins without Forerunner bullsh$$ery. Oh doing this late at night on an iPod was not a good idea.

[@generalofchaos5174]

And what of indoctrination? I agree with most of these points but I think that indoctrination would have a major role in this fight. Eck didn't put it in the video but imagine if the Reapers indoctrinated people like Spartans, shipmasters, officers, etc.? It would also be logical to think that the UNSC would gather Reaper debris to investigate and that makes them vulnerable to the indoctrination process. It could be that this causes major infighting in their ranks, maybe even leading to a separatist faction. I'm still somewhat conflicted about the win ratio that each side has.

[@ThrawnFett123]

Indoctrination I think is going to play a much smaller role than people are assuming. It's the same reason I feel E left it out of the video (though I could easily be very wrong here). We are dealing with people familiar with the Flood, so it's a war-zone that is already used to infectious enemies. All it will take is one husk to emerge for both major Halo factions to immediately go into "Kill it with fire!" mode. Same reason I put in my first point the unity and same level threat section. First contact protocols are shaped with threats like the Flood in mind, and strong wills are very hard for Reapers to break quickly enough to go stealth like that without creating mindless husks of the rest first. It is all just waiting (bearing in mind that Reapers can't absolutely control indoctrination, it IS inevitable once it has started) for when that first husk emerges. First husk triggers full scale quarantine mode, and the Reapers have no way of knowing BEFORE they indoctrinate them about the Flood. One of their biggest strengths in the Mass Effect universe is a major liability in the Halo one for a "political" war like that thanks to a factor they cannot know of before hand.

[@generalofchaos5174]

I think I understand your point but can't help but feel it's not completely true, it could be I'm wrong. However I do think I should point out that the Flood infestation and indoctrination are complete separate things. The Flood is an enemy of which you can see the infection, the host mutates and turns into a flood form. Indoctrination on the other hand is not visible, it affects the mind without any major changes to the body to the point that you can notice it. I understand how you think about Husks, it's not hard to figure out that they were once humans or in this war even Sangheili or other covenant races, but they have been turned into reaper form like a flood form and are effectively dead. Huskification and indoctrination are therefore not really the same. I understand that the quarantine mode and agree with that, but I don't see how that stops indoctrination. Think of ONI for example. They would immediately gather samples of the Reapers to create weapons like they did with the Flood. It has been proven that those who don't know of indoctrination have no way of developing countermeasures to it, like shielding the samples so that the indoctrination signal doesn't affect them. If ONI scientists and agents are slowly indoctrinated then it would be a disaster for the UNSC. And what do you mean with that the Reapers cannot absolutely control indoctrination? They're based off Leviathan who has mind controlling powers himself.

[@deriznohappehquite]

Indocrination would play a very small role. It takes years against normal humans. If they couldn't indocrinate Shepherd, which is canon, there's no way they could indoctrinate shipmasters, Spartans, etc. over the course of fleet to fleet engagements or even battles. The only way for the UNSC to gather Reaper debris would be for them to destroy reapers and hold the battlespace afterwards. For that to happen, the Reapers would already have to be losing the war. Even then, standard UNSC protocols for handling alien artifacts would probably delay and diminish the effects of indoctrination. Ultimately, in a war that would mainly consist of fleet actions, the Reapers would struggle to make use of indoctrination on a strategic level.

[@chiefsenpai969]

I have a UNSC-Covenant strategy in mind that might be effective. The Reapers are defend their captured territory in a planet's orbit. So a fleet of Covie and UNSC ships move towards its, appearing to engage them. The Reapers mobilize a start charging. Just before entering firing range, the those ships enter slipspace, essentially disappearing from the battlefield. A single Covenant Lich, armed with a NOVA bomb, exits slipspace either behind or in between the Reaper fleet. Before the Reapers can assault it, the NOVA is detonated, blowing up the Reaper fleet. The Lich will be lost but a significant damage will be done to the Reapers. This strategy can be modified to fit certain situations. Plus, the smaller Covenant ships are shown to first charge head-on and then, through slipspace, appear behind the enemy, essentially flanking them. Those plasma weaponary will cause a significant damage and if in greater numbers, a fleet can take down quite a lot of Reapers. Where Reapers have the advantage of Mass effect fields, Halo's ships have an edge due to their slipspace tech.

[@pyrolopez854]

Avihrik Basak and I will be fun to watch I'm in the movie Ender's Game Ender and human Fleet versus one or two Reapers

[@the_baldy_scotsman6210]

Mass effect shields only block kinetic weapons not energy which means that the covenant could essentially just burn though he reapers hull. And even wirh the kinetic shielding I doubt it would be powerful enough to block even a couple of the weakest mac cannon shots, I'm talking frigate level.

[@admiralkoerner2737]

Halo has the advantage in technology, even a UNSC frigates Mac is more powerful than a Reaper dreadnought's main gun. Also considering that Halo shields are more effective as they block energy weapons as well it make it extremely easy for any covenant ships to take out reaper vessels.

[@chiefsenpai969]

I just remembered something. Spacedock or EckhartsLadder made a video of Sovereign vs a stealth-class Star Trek ship, probably (please don't hate me for my mistakes). There the Star Trek ship fired a few plasma torpedoes on the rear of Sovereign, weakening its Kinetic Barriers and damaging the hull. I believe that the output then wasn't much yet it caused a significant damage. Cov frigates and destroyers can easily flank them, first weakening the hull then let the UNSC finish with the MACs.

[@chiefsenpai969]

When it comes to fortification of a planet, with humans and Sanghelli working together, I can say without a doubt that they would come up with a brilliant tactic. Hell, Cole took up 2 Covie fleets. And now, with Covenant resources, I bet there are enough wise shipmasters to come up with an effective strategy. Plus, the Super MACs will rip 'em apart even before they get a chance to attack.

[@almaxxx13]

I feel that the UNSC and Covenant would have no answer for indoctrination, especially with the lowered numbers that you gave them. The Reapers were also very good at manipulating machines, as they did with the Geth and could, at least at some level, engage in cyberwarfare that the Halo Universe may not see coming.

[@starhammer5247]

But Cortana and a few other AI's have personal connections to their humans and won't turn their backs on their friends, and even if most turned against humanity, Cortana is more advanced than any known AI.

[@Jaydee-wd7wr]

@@starhammer5247, I haven’t played it so correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t she and most of the UNSC AI literally do that in Halo 5?

[@starhammer5247]

@@Jaydee-wd7wr They do that to force order. They don't do it to kill humanity, they do it to keep more wars from breaking out, even if we disagree with how she and the others go about it they believe this is the best chance for peace. The Reapers don't give a shit about peace and will actively sow discord between everyone and instigate war as their goal is to kill everyone. Different motives.

[@johnP0908]

@@starhammer5247 lmao, the reapers are literally billions of old. if it comes to cyberwarfare. they have the most experience. and please don't use "friendship" or strong bonds as an argument. this is an argument of how machines can handle cyberwarfare. lmao

[@starhammer5247]

@@johnP0908, I was using it as an argument for why the Halo AI wouldn't immediately bow down to the Reapers just because they showed up and acted like gods. Cortana was supercharged with Forerunner data and HALO AI, in general, are advanced enough to the point where they can feel emotion, something the Geth struggled to do for a while and even EDI wasn't certain on. Reapers may have numbers but they've always faced AI that was miles weaker than they were, they are conceited and believe they are superior. Any Halo AI would gutter stomp the most advanced AI of Mass Effect outside of the Reapers and even then, the species of HALO don't use ME technology so that's still an issue for the Reapers. Cortana was capable of interfacing with Forerunner structures seamlessly, bypassing firewalls and whatnot, and so have other AI such as Isabelle. If you're unaware, Forerunner technology is millions of times more advanced than Reaper tech. Age has nothing to do with it, feats do.

[@dyllinlopez2610]

The intro was very well put together and actually gave me chills going down my spine

[@johnlucas6901]

You took the reapers at their strongest and halo at its weakest. Its whatever though lol.

[@Litany_of_Fury]

The Reapers are one faction of the Mass Effect universe, the Halo Universe got the Humans and the Covenant.

[@darthnecros4072]

@@Litany_of_Fury exactly to be a fair fight you would have to have all of the races available for different tactics in the haloverse to be able to fight. In this scenario it is basically the elites and humans doing the fighting bc the grunts are ground cannon fodder, jackals are long range and stealth fighter neither has any real duties on the ships besides basic duties of serving the sangheili. While reapers are up to a billion of years old with 10s of thousand of ships, the precursors and forerunners are maybe a few hundred thousand years old. With their technology alone the could held off the reaper invasion force. But since eck chose not to include most of their technology, which both factions (H and C) use, it really limited the haloverse.

[@Litany_of_Fury]

@@darthnecros4072 I do believe EckhartsLadder got his Reaper lore and general Mass Effect lore wrong.

[@33440maxime]

He also said that he will consider the two factions of the Haloverse united, while one of the main advantage of the reapers is to create dissension through indoctrination

[@werewolfjedi38]

Isn't that when reapers attack though?

[@derg2484]

Just give the Master Chief a stone and he will get the Shit out of the reapers

[@agentphoenix8409]

And two sticks

[@moistseacat5356]

@@agentphoenix8409he also has to share the stone

[@TheSenate27]

@Archie With a whole platoon.

[@Direwolf9818]

He’d be indoctrinated before he could leave a reaper ship 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@piotrmiler234]

@@Direwolf9818 Not so sure . He is not a standard human . And also i wearing miolnir armor . And miolnir armor is miolnir armor ( read - fuck logic )

[@lesserpal3194]

"make things fair, forerunners not included".. me: hit the space bar and read comments

[@Follower-of-orthodoxy]

I kinda wonder what a flood infected reaper looks like

[@DeathDragon5000]

it would look like NOTHING because that's highly unlikely to happen

[@benreilman5349]

Master Chief would win with his plot armor.

[@clitcrusader4897]

Have you played halo 2 on legendary? Plot armor ain't got shit on even grunts let alone sniper jackals.

[@jblumanog4291]

Lol the Star Wars universe has the most plot armour

[@TheCrusader97]

Ben Reilman Cortana like to call it “luck” but yea I get your point

[@uzimakiking]

Plot armor mk.2

[@gravemindpenis]

I'm pretty sure if you use the m6g magnum you can 3 shot a reaper

[@123GOHANZ]

MarsFor Bars 3? You’ve got to be kidding me! It’d gut those space squids with one

[@Jkrocsko]

MarsFor Bars. That is perfect. Thank you

[@LateNightHam]

MarsFor Bars it's a M6D

[@littleoffthetop3055]

Why is this not the best comment

[@literalnightmarefuel5535]

50 Cal, Armor piercing, explosive rounds. What opposition?

[@AnimeShinigami13]

I'd love to see the gravemind parked on a buried reaper artifact go insane. :D

[@somegeek153]

Highly unlikely but would be funny

[@carlosdgutierrez6570]

or the gravemind making the reapers go insane. Graveminds corrupted Medicant bias, the second most powerfull Ai in Halo.

[@kanewilson8624]

The gravemind is LITERALLY just a giant mushroom, the THORIAN can make people immune to the effect of Indoctrination even though they slightly still feel the effects (aka Shiara saying in an email that she can feel the whispers of Indoctrination (unlike when she worked under Sovereign) but they are EXTREMELY muted.

[@AnimeShinigami13]

@@kanewilson8624 That's because the colonists were mentally united by the Thorian's infection.

[@kanewilson8624]

@@AnimeShinigami13 even though that’s when the THORIAN is long gone. If the THORIAN was still alive they would be immune to indoctrination.

[@basudebsarkar5487]

The halo universe have no spaceships compared to REAPERS... UNSC: HOLD MY INFINITY

[@pinkcloudproductions828]

Okay but you're forgetting that the reapers just... Don't know... Where all the planets are... Earth maybe, but the reapers relied on an established network to travel and "reap". Reapers generally ignored Planets that weren't near an ME relay, because they couldn't find them. So, aside from earth, would the reapers really know what to do afterwards besides just kinda... Wander?

[@mxn1948]

they couldn't even take earth. 300 odps that out range any reaper weapon, and each round does something like 100 times the damage of a reaper main weapon, while being able to fire as fast as a weapon main gun. it would literally be a 30 second fight

[@deriznohappehquite]

Also, they couldn't take Covenant planets, especially homeworlds, either. Covenant ODPs were no joke, one almost destroyed the Infinity.

[@shawnspier3533]

mxn1948 if I remember reading correctly the Halo encyclopedia says somewhere that an ODP pops out of Terra ton of force each blast

[@DarthDragon007]

@@shawnspier3533 And Infinity is at least just as powerful. Tera tons....that's like hundreds in not thousands more powerful than the reapers! O_O

[@daniel971233]

Where did you pull 800 purges from? The Reapers have been around for at least a billion years. Invading every 50,000 years, thats almost 20,000 invasions. With one Sovereign class ship created each time, thats like 20,000 main class Reaper ships. And seeing as there are several Races (we can guess as there are 13/14 Races in this cycle, and 7/8 in the Prothean Cycle) than the races that don't get made into capital Reapers, are made into Destoryers, so the true number is well into the Hundred Thousands. Lets go on a low estimate here and say 8 Races each cycle, 7 of which that don't get made into main Reapers each cycle, thats 140,000 destroyer class ones reapers by this cycle. 160,000 with the main class reapers too. Of course some get destroyed, but hardly enough to really put a reall dent in their forces, still at least 100,000. And that doesn't even count for their support class reapers that arent sentient, or the Oculus.

[@HWARD181]

Daniel Kelly he removed most of the Halo Factions from this fight so he made it fair by losing some of the reapers I guess and I think he was going by the latest data on both.

[@atk9989]

he also failed to factor in the reaper indoctrination. taking control of the crew of entire ships here and there before the battle and then turning them against each other or controlling the flood itself and driving them at the Halo worlds to weaken them again just like they did with the rachni a hive mind incect race from ME in 2 different cycles.

[@HWARD181]

atk9989 I doubt they could indoctrinate the Flood they are the most op parasitic race in science fiction, it would be an interesting clash however. The flood also has the ability to take over artificial intelligence a bit like the catalyst or The intelligence in the ME universe, I would love to see a video the Flood vs the Reapers.

[@ivenotwatched1episodeofnar71]

atk9989 if i can remember correctly indoctrination takes time so even if it did work its not gonna happen instantly

[@daniel971233]

Thick Gaming A week at most. But that depends on the amount of power a individual reaper uses to indoctrinate a person near it. Although, because the Flood are a hivemind, it might be more difficult to use as shown with the Rachni queen

[@GolemSpartan]

I did some research and calculations out of curiosity as I wanted to figure out where the halo universe fleet would compare to the Alliance ships in Mass effect, and the research astounded me. In short, the MAC guns equipped to UNSC Light Frigates like the Foward Unto Dawn are twice as powerful as any Alliance 'Dreadnought' main gun. Less we forget, these guns did take apart the Reapers. Additionally, while the Capital class Reapers main gun boasts 100-300+ kilotons of TNT in output, which is 2-6 times greater than the previously Boasted MAC guns, the Shiva Class Nukes that every Cruiser is equipped with are literally 100 times more powerful at minimum. While it would be messy and very costly, given that the UNSC alone out guns the Reapers by a suprising amount, I'm fairly confident the Covenant can clean up what's left.

[@GolemSpartan]

Wow, I did not realize how much of a mouthful I just posted. Um, would it be an issue to post more of my findings?

[@bbarbiter]

thanks for actually doing research unlike pretty much everyone else here...

[@Dark_Voice]

@@bbarbiter Still though, everyone talks about some ships and things that wouldnt matter. Reapers would indoctrinate UNSC, Spartans and everyone. I think even things like Cortana and Forerunners would start questioning whether Reapers arent right and that servitude and being useful isnt the best solution. Flood would get indoctrinated as well and Reapers would create Halo army and win in the long fight.

[@johnP0908]

I get the argument that having better firepower is easily one of the best solutions of arguing which side is stronger. but the Reapers only go into offense when they know they CAN harvest civilizations, meaning when they're at their most vulnerable state or they have a considerable advantage. the Reapers are known to send agents, indoctrinated people sent to sabotage any advantage any civilization has to counter any form of invasion(i. e. an indoctrinated Hanar disabling Dekuuna's planetary defense system), that could even lead to a full scale civil war and such. even tapping onto their technology can unknowingly infect anyone even reaper "corpses" can infect as well. Cerberus is one of those organizations that are known to be one of those victims of their curiosity. if there are curious minds in the Halo Universe, then it's not impossible for them to indoctrinate anyone. literally any race they can find even AI's. besides, they never go charging head on, they always send expendables first to soften their targets. while causing sabotages that also hinders their enemy's response capabilities.

[@GolemSpartan]

@@johnP0908 I agree with all points except the Ai one. The Reapers could never properly "indoctrinate" the Geth, a rather simple Ai. Given this, I think its rather easy to assume that their whole indoctrination thing only works on purely organic beings. Not to undersell the Geth, but even when the super combine themselves they hardly match up to Ai like Dot and Virgil, much less more advanced Ai like Cortana. It's simply a tech void in the field of Ai Development. In the Halo universe, Ai has been a major field for centuries to the point humanity developed Ai on par to cracking the Prometheans tech, which is a race of ancient Ai now not unlike the Reapers, if Reapers kept to themselves. The Mass Effect verse however not only made Ai a illegal topic, with all instances of Ai coming about being accidental. Even EDI was revealed to have been a security system gained sentience on that one Moon Base in ME1. And when anything is shown to be given sentience? It's met with the Barrel of a Gun. In the Geths case they simply were able to shoot us off them long enough to ignore them until the Reapers came. Conclusion for those who don't want to read? The Halo Ai is basically our biggest saving grace against the Reapers.

[@jalakor]

If the Reapers unleashed the flood.... it’d be all over, maybe for everyone.

[@LeMMingSlayeR]

Master Chief would punch all 1600 reapers right in the nuts.

[@TIGOxtail]

Jesse Crawford lmfao he wouldn't punch them in the nuts, he'd blow em off

[@azazel5803]

Jesse Crawford chief, mind telling me what you are doing with those reaper balls?

[@MarioRodriguez-uy2sg]

He would be indoctrinated. He would be the reapers bitch.

[@Shadic4101]

he's give the reapers back their bomb then finish the mission

[@rogue6685]

Jesse Crawford He would be fucked instantly

[@jjs6568]

You know just as well as I do eckhart that if the reapers were trying to invade the universe when the forerunners were dominant, they would be kicked face first into a artificially created blackhole that the forerunners would generate.

[@MetroVerse]

They would probably just send a bunch of Sentinels their way and they would take care of them with relative ease. A dozen Onyx Sentinels have low-grade megaton weapon power. 500 of them would equal the firepower of the strongest Reapers. They had god knows how many, so it wouldn't even be a nuissance. The Reapers would bug like a bug on a windshield. Just something to wipe off. Somewhere, the Ur-Didact reads the morning paper as it says the Reapers have been annihilated somewhere at the edge of the galaxy. He gets a minor headache as he had not sanctioned the attack, but then goes about the rest of his day, not giving a fuck.

[@mav4954]

@@VAYNAX06 Photons don't have mass and photons make up light waves which black holes effect.

[@mxn1948]

@@VAYNAX06 you clearly know nothing about physics. black holes affect space time itself not just mass, this is why photons, which have no mass, still cannot escape a black hole. also, mass effect weapons are weak AF compared to most other sci-fi universes. its been said that reaper main weapons do something like 450 kilotons of fire power. we can out match this by far TODAY with our fusion bombs. meanwhile halo human frigates do something like 20 kt per shot which is comparable to mass effect dreadnoughts. this meaning any human destroyer and up ships can take on a reaper one v one and have a good chance of winning , something like the infinity would wipe the floor with entire reaper fleets and take zero damage in the process. this is not including any convie ships which can destroy human destroyers with ease. reapers would get butt raped so hard

[@wyattbhoffman]

JJS don’t forget the ancient humans that were on the same level of technology as the forerunners

[@vkobevk]

@@VAYNAX06 because in mass effect we see it is possible to shoot down a reaper destroyer with only raw power and a giant worm was able to eat a reaper destroyer

[@anomaly2652]

Reapers: *Invade* The covenant pre-great schism: *"Helo"*

[@piotrmiler234]

You could use Halo . That means the same .

[@amazingbro6723]

Is nobody talking about how great the video started?! What a great way to start a video!!!!

[@ESFNinja]

MAC guns would absolutely one shot a reaper, with the incredible amount of kinetic energy they put out, and the Covenant's plasma weaponry would be a game changer. Let's not even talk about reversed engineered Forerunner technology.

[@Anonymus56o]

You forget that kinetic weapons are what the reaper defences are built to defend against. Damage or cripple maybe, but not one shot.

[@salamanda550]

Anthony Aranas Forgive the man for having faith in his ship.

[@Anonymus56o]

Sam Blades he's right to have faith. Just don't overestimate or exaggerate, because then we get into quoting numbers and go crazy.

[@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068]

Anthony Aranas no a super Mac would one shot a repear

[@Anonymus56o]

Jamarian Travis Maybe a Super MAC, but most other MACs on anything smaller than the Infinity I don't see as being so much more powerful than what the ME-verse had.

[@RyanJones567]

Humans have orbital macs which can reload in 5 seconds. 20 Mac platforms firing nonstop = 120 shots per minute, and they now have energy shields. The reapers will take heavy losses taking one human planet. Then when the sovereign class reapers are all sitting on the ground the humans drop a nova bomb on them and wipe them all out. Any that survive can be picked off.

[@rulingmoss5599]

Not 5 seconds quick but still pretty quick.

[@mxn1948]

its 5, both the books and game says so.

[@KJK9029]

where are you dropping this Nova bomb again?

[@Orkdestroyer1]

10 alliance Dreadnoughts couldnt break sovereign They each fired 760kilotons a min

[@deriznohappehquite]

Anakin, this is why you got cucked by Rush Clovis and burnt to a crisp. The UNSC ODPs have much higher energy output than Mass Effect dreadnoughts. 760 kilotons would be on par with single round from a postwar UNSC frigate. The ODPs are ridiculous, and could easily one shot a Reaper and the Reaper behind it.

[@nihilistpenguin7511]

A reaper stands no chance against the immense yeeting power of a MAC round

[@davict97br]

"Do not underestimate then, but most of all do not underestimate him"

[@WoW_UE]

I still think the UNSC and covenant will win frigates

[@Roosauec]

Eckhart, I don't think you understand the significance of what you said at 12:41. The issue of the Reaper's speed is, ultimately, their Achilles heel. Back during Vietnam, United States forces, despite being more numerous and better equipped than the Vietcong, still lost many engagements due to guerilla fighting and a more highly mobile force. It's highly likely that by emulating the VCs, the Halo universe would win by jumping in with their Slipspace drives, attacking Reaper hardpoints and weakened enemy fleets, and retreating before the Reapers can organize any sort of defense. With constant hit-and-run attacks pressuring the Reapers, they may all decide conquering the Halo galaxy simply isn't worth the losses and frustration they have to put up with, and depart into darkspace. In contrast to your conclusion, I'm going to give it to the Halo universe 8 times out of 10. To say it's unfair to compare FTL capabilities is like saying it's unfair to compare a Model-T to a 1970 Firebird in terms of performance. In the end, they're both still vehicles. Of course it's unfair to compare them, but humanity will take any advantage it can get, and it seems like you're playing favorites when you say it's against the spirit of the matchup. Especially since Humanity would have access to all of Earth's history, and tactics.

[@nicolomatias2223]

Roosauec Very well said. The only chance the Reapers have is if they for some reason could produce more of themselves and just overwhelm the Halo universe with numbers. Which is unlikely. Very unlikely.

[@Spartan7gaming]

Harvard: Nigga you want a scholarship?

[@stardude2006]

Roosauec 1. Locate Reaper Flagship 2. Destroy Flagship with Covvie Nuke 3.Enjoy the chaos that follows .. 4. Destroy the remaining Invaders at your leisure. Morale : Every Enemy has an Achilles Heel. :)

[@joebidenlikeslittlekids5133]

But we have jackal snipers That could easily one shot a entire reaper.

[@darthrevan704]

Invite me pls there shot would make it thorught all the armor and staright to the reapers core

[@sbentsen2714]

Oww goosebumps bro, the intro is so on point with the Leaving Earth soundtrack 👌🏼🔥😁

[@ValerianTheBarbarian]

Caboose would single handedly take care of any invasion.

[@MasterHall117]

He would and wouldn’t know what he did

[@starhammer5247]

He's so stupid that he would fail to realize that he even did it in the first place.

[@AKlover]

This is a simple matter of main gun comparisons and ship numbers. Mass Effect weapons are underpowered and Halo's main weapons are overpowered.

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

Anything is overpowered compared to ME thats why is known to be one if not the weakest sci-fi universe

[@AKlover]

@@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593 I don't disagree. The existence of something with the properties of element Zero should make for main guns that can put a planet into "Volcanic Winter" in a few shots. Not a sovereign class Reapers main gun which is weaker than several single warhead nuke variants we have now and have had for decades.

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

@@AKlover true they tried to make the universe look "realistic" compared to most sci-fi universes at the expense of the power that the verse can offer and whats make me angry is that the ME fanboys like H5 say that the reapers are more powerful than the forerunners or the precursors *OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF OOF*

[@egorex1834]

@@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593 Realistic? lol Pretty much everything in Mass Effect runs on a sci-fi macguffin. It ain't realistic but it tries to.

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

@@egorex1834 soo true

[@billykapard9863]

Reapers: "You have no chance!" Literally everyone in the Halo Galaxy when not at their weakest: *stares them into submission*

[@samzorn4656]

I have a good idea for a crossover for Halo and Mass Effect: It starts out with the Precursors seeding the Milky Way with life, creating the Leviathans and bestowing them with the Mantle of Responsibility. The Leviathans see themselves as the apex race and others as lesser races worthy of only being their thralls, forcing the Precursors to take the Mantle from them. The Leviathans, angered at the Mantle being taken from them, go to war with the Precursors, eventually creating an artificial intelligence that would eventually become Harbinger. During the war, Harbinger witnessed how the other races had grown in biotic ability and power, which left unchecked posed a potential threat to the stability of the galaxy and quite possibly the universe, perhaps going so far as affecting the space-time continuum (this is based on the Drew Karpyshyn's ideas for Mass Effect 3's ending, titled "the Dark Energy Ending." I highly recommend checking it out, if you're interested). After years of warfare, the Precursors infect Harbinger with a prototype version of the Logic Plague (if the Flood could do it to Mendicant Bias, then I'm certain the Precursors possess similar abilities. Though I could be wrong regarding that segment of Halo lore), turning the AI against the Leviathans. The result was the extinction of almost all of the Leviathans and the creation of the first Reaper chassis, made in the image of the Leviathan race, which Harbinger uploaded itself into. 50,000 years after the Precursor-Leviathan War, the Precursors witness the extinction of another advanced race, one that possessed the Mantle of Responsibility, at the hands of Harbinger, which resulted in the creation of another Reaper. Harbinger was brought forth by the Precursors to answer for its crimes, which resulted in the Reaper revealing its findings to the Precursors and assuring them that the advanced races were harvested into Reaper form while the lesser races were spared. The Precursors attempted to take back the Mantle of Responsibility from Harbinger, but the Reaper had prepared itself for this outcome and was resistant to any Logic Plague attempts by the Precursors, taking the Mantle for itself and its growing armada of Reapers. The Reapers eventually created the Mass Relay system and the Citadel to increase the efficiency of their harvest cycles. Faced with its inability to take the Mantle back from the Reapers, the Precursors reseed the galaxy with life following each Reaper harvest, with the dwindling hope that the next advanced race they seed would succeed in destroying the Reapers and take back the Mantle of Responsibility. Eventually, the Prothean civilization was harvested by the Reapers, but not before uploading their warnings and schematics for both the Conduit and the Crucible to their beacons and archives, which were then found by the Asari, the Salarians, the Turians, the Volus, the Hanar, the Drell, the Elcor, the Krogan, the Rachni, the Quarians, the Vorcha, the Batarians, the Sangheili, the Unggoy, the Kig-Yar, the Yanme'e, the Jiralhanae, the Hugarok, the San'Shyuum, the Ancient Humans, and the Forerunners. Eventually, a working Prothean beacon was found by three Forerunners named Faber-Of-Will-And-Might, First-Light-Weaves-Living-Song, and Shadow-of-Sundered-Star, all of whom eventually rallied the races of the Milky Way into allying against the Reapers, which resulted in most of the Reapers, save Harbinger and Sovereign, rendered inactive following the firing of the Crucible (see Gerry Pugliese's ME3: Vindication PDF to get an idea on how the Crucible was fired in this crossover scenario: www.scribd.com/doc/237691228/Mass-Effect-3-Vindication). The inactive Reapers were thrown into a Slipspace dimension while both Harbinger and Sovereign were imprisoned in separate Forerunner Shield-Worlds, with seemingly no hope of getting out Prior to the Reaper's imprisonment, Shadow-of-Sundered-Star took the Mantle of Responsibility from Harbinger, though there were some fears that Harbinger affected his mind due to one final desperate attempt at indoctrination. By the end of the war, the Mass Relays were damaged and rendered inoperable following the Crucible's firing, leaving many colonies isolated from their home systems (see Templin Institute's video on reimagined post-Reaper War Mass Effect universe to get an idea on how the galaxy took shape at the end of the reaper War in this crossover scenario: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpa7n6mAmraip9E). The Forerunners were among the largest galactic powers that remained in the post-Reaper War, possessing the resources necessary to quell the growing chaos in the Milky Way galaxy, which they eventually did. The Precursors, witnessing the Forerunner-led coalition of advanced races defeat the Reapers, formally bestowed the Forerunners with the Mantle of Responsibility, solidifying their right to rule the galaxy and setting the foundation for the Forerunner Empire. Faber-Of-Will-And-Might, First-Light-Weaves-Living-Song, and Shadow-of-Sundered-Star, all three of them heroes in the Reaper War and bringers of order to the post-Reaper War chaos, ascended as leaders of the Forerunner Empire, taking the names of Master-Builder, Librarian, and Didact respectively. (Everything then follows Halo canon before and after the firing of the Halo Array to combat the Flood, where all life was reseeded once the Flood was starved out. Events then play out similar in both Halo and Mass Effect canon [the Asari and Salarians finding the Citadel and forming the Council; the San'Shyuum and Sangheili forming the Covenant; the Turian Unification Wars; the Salarians uplifting the Rachni and later the Krogan; the Unggoy, Kig-Yar, Jiralhanae, and Yanme'e joining the Covenant; the Volus, Hanar, and Elcor joining the Citadel; the Rachni Wars and Krogan Rebellions, the unleashing of the Genophage; the Turians joining the Citadel Council, the taming of the Lekgolo and the Unggoy Rebellion; the formation of the UNSC; the Insurrection; etc.] up until the middle stage of the Human-Covenant War.) On Shanxi, one of the UNSC colonies, ONI scientists were examining an inactive Mass Relay for any direct correlation to the Forerunners and activated its comm buoy prior to its attack by Covenant forces. The Citadel received word that a Mass Relay's comm buoy was activated and sent a task force from the Turian Hierarchy to investigate it, as activating a Mass Relay without authorization by the Citadel Council was against the law in Council Space. When the Turian task force arrived, they witnessed a Covenant armada attacking Shanxi, with several human civilian transports trying to escape the Covenant that so happened to fly in the direction of the Turian ships. The Covenant, believing the Turian task force to be UNSC reinforcements, assaulted the ships, which created a domino effect for the Citadel. The Turian Hierarchy, incensed by both the Covenant's attack on their ships and the Covenant's indiscriminate genocide of the Human race, align with the UNSC and declare war on the Covenant. The Asari Republics, the Salarian Union, the Hanar Illuminated Primacy, the Vol Protectorate, the Elcor Courts of Dekuuna follow suit in their own declarations of war. The Drell (as per their Compact with the Hanar) and the Raloi (who at this point were accepted as a Citadel race) also join the war on the side of the Citadel and the UNSC. The allegiance of the Krogan Clans, the Quarian Migrant Fleet, and the Batarian Hegemony remains in question. The Krogan Clans became scattered as a result of the Genophage, living lives as mercenaries and loyal to anyone who would both pay the most and provide them the battles they desire. There are rumors that the Covenant may offer the Quarians assistance in retaking Rannoch in return for their incorporation into the Covenant, but that remains to be seen. The Batarians, who have been outcast by the Council for repeated act of aggression against colonies within Citadel Space, might ally themselves with the Covenant for a chance at revenge. The Vorcha, the Geth, and the Collectors remain wildcards in these events, the latter two especially due to a faction of the Geth revering the Reapers as Gods while the Collectors were once Protheans that were mutated to serve Harbinger. Anyway, this is how I might envision a Halo-Mass Effect crossover. Please let me know what you think. With that said, thank you all for coming to my TED talk.

[@RaxuRangerkingsChannel]

Ok, I'll start by saying I don't know much at all about the Haloverse, but I WOULD like to point out some key weaknesses of the Reapers that you didn't mention. First of all, the idea of the Reapers all being lured to one giant bomb is actually a great point that you have to factor in, since this has been shown to be the weakness of the Reapers on several occasions. At the end of the day, Reapers are robots; they're built to pursue a target until it's destroyed, and the ONLY times they've acted differently is when Harbinger is in close proximity to them, like when he was on Earth and able to command the Reapers in Earth's orbit to protect The Crucible. Secondly, the Oculus fighters are VERY inconsistent; several of them are shown to cause minimal damage to the Normandy if it has it's armor upgrades, which I'm sure most Halo ships can easily match. Even Shepard can withstand a bit of fire from one of their lasers. Lastly, this is a very important weakness of the Reapers; they need a connection to something, or they become very vulnerable. For Sovereign, this link was Saren, since Harbinger was in Dark Space at the time; when Saren died, Sovereign went limp and basically got 1-shotted by the Normandy, which is a miniscule ship compared to it. The link that the rest of the Reapers have is either with the Geth they control (which aren't a factor in this fight), or (in the case of the final battle) with Harbinger. In short, if the Halo forces were smart enough to say "Hey, that one giant Reaper with golden eyes seems important; let's destroy it!" and they were successful, the whole Reaper fleet would lose their shields and fall into disarray. Harbinger has been stated to be "at least twice as powerful" as a usual Capital Ship Reaper, but given the tech of the Haloverse, it's not impossible for them to destroy him. Also, the Haloverse has faced hive-mind-style threats before, I believe, so they might be quick in reaching the conclusion that the largest, best-protected Reaper with glowing eyes is the hive-mind leader. From my perspective, the Haloverse would win.

[@hasty-carnaage1518]

Yeah, Eck is severely overestimating the Reapers and way underestimating the Haloverse, Specifically the UNSC and their MAC cannons. He doesnt even mention it but One Mac round could easily destroy several Reapers given they were lined up(and due to the shear number of Reapers it is likely) Eck also seems to think numbers is what would win this fight.

[@saltytattie833]

@@hasty-carnaage1518 Eck in general seems biased against Halo, which is fair enough considering it is on a significantly smaller scale than all the other galactic empires but at the same time they do have strong technology and incredible tacticians and AI. In most situations Halo would lose total war due to relative size of empires but in individual fights or with an invasion fleet like the reapers which don't own any planets of their own and replace numbers using other species shit the haloverse wins. He does also severely underestimate the mac cannons which are ridiculously powerful and if the reapers were to invade the sol system like in ME3 they would have huge issues with the orbital defense platforms just because they are stations with MAC's large enough to punch holes through anything. To be fair punching holes in things isn't all too devastating as it will only effect the area that is made a hole but if well aimed the MAC's can destroy anything instantly. If the Reapers have any kind of localised processing unit acting as a "brain" and the UNSC learn where it is located they can use MAC's to instantly disable the processors of a reaper instantly.

[@glowhoo9226]

RaxuRangerking okay you’re claim that the reapers need a link is wrong, they don’t need any link, they can think for themselves to an extent since they are semi organic, and sovereign did not get one shorted by the Normandy, it was being fired upon by the citadel and alliance fleets, plus when Daren died the sudden loss of connection overloaded sovereigns shields ( since if you recall saren dies one time and sovereign takes over his body)

[@steve1279]

The reapers would easily crush the halo verse. The forerunners could beat the reapers but the flood? That's a toss up, that fight might be a tie.

[@CanadianTehGamer]

@@saltytattie833 He does, but also, he stations were frequently placed in geosynchronous orbit and deployed in groups, or clusters, of two to five platforms. The well-equipped and large bridge of an ODP is suitable for directing large-scale engagements. The Mk. V "Super" Magnetic Accelerator Cannon is the station's primary armament. By activating several sets of super conductive coils in a series which envelope the barrel, the Mk. V can launch a 3,000 ton tungsten/depleted uranium projectile at 11991698.32 meters per second. As noted by Sergeant Major Avery Johnson, the Mk. V can punch a hole clean through a shielded Covenant Capital Ship. Orbital Defense Platforms fire at around 12,000 kilometers per second, 4% of the speed of light. Against Covenant shield technology, the rounds possess enough kinetic energy to punch through shields, cut through the ship, and, upon exit, still retain enough energy to destroy a second ship, and cripple a third ship. It is theorized that if a ship's armor or shields were to absorb all the kinetic energy of a super MAC round, the release of thermal energy would still vaporize the ship. By receiving power from ground-based power plants, orbital platforms could achieve a recharge and reload rate as short as five seconds. ODPs can also rotate to fire planetside. Not to mention Covenant capital ships had some of the best shields around, ship based MAC couldn't penetrate them in a single shot, it took several rounds, but ODP rounds could crack one and damage a second. Not to mention if the Infinity was in play, that alone smashed through a Covenant ship upon exiting slipspace. Honestly, imo the UNSC-Covenant alliance would win, the Covenant have superior ship to ship weaponry but the UNSC has the ODP's which can be used to attack from a distance the Reapers can't shoot from. Also, there are several UNSC admirals that have years of experience fighting in space, fighting a losing war and using guerrilla tactics to fight, they also use A.I for everything, A.I that aren't exactly simple to hack. ODP rounds are also known to cause the Covenant ships to break apart since they are so powerful.

[@flynnstone3133]

The Reapers are a boring opponent to face in war. There's no culture to study and... understand. Just death.

[@deriznohappehquite]

Mass Effect would have been a lot better if you were just a space cop and the reapers didn't exist.

[@kabob0077]

I say a show about Thrawn and Garrus would be interesting.

[@markocizmanski9107]

YES

[@markocizmanski9107]

YES

[@theimmortalsuperbeing549]

And The Empire is what Multicultural and Un-Death ?.

[@self-promoterremover5611]

I don’t think the Reapers could win, especially with Chips Dubbo on the loose

[@skyhawkslcb18]

the only reason the reapers are so intimidating as an antagonist is because of how completely every other race is outclassed by them technology-wise. they don't fit in the halo universe lol. the flood would be like "yum, god-like AI to give a logic plague to"

[@kabob0077]

What about the Banished? They should be a part of this Glorious Conflict too! LET ATRIOX FIGHT THE REAPERS!

[@johnsmith-sq6nu]

geez man it was already a stomp. and besides atriox needs more worthy prey

[@Shark_XIX]

No. 343 Halo is invalid.

[@johnsmith-sq6nu]

The Soviet Shark ok then ME 2-3 are invalid

[@bluenight104]

You definitely underestimated the numbers of the UNSC, only 500+ ships? That’s way too small, sure the UNSC was devastated by the war but they managed to field a Navy for nearly 30yrs of continuous genocidal war, they sure as hell had more than 500+ ships.

[@TheEpicForger]

Blue Night I agree that they'd defiantly have more ships, but the big reason they lasted As long as they did was cole protocol

[@deriznohappehquite]

While the Cole Protocol was the reason for humanity's survival, they routinely lost massive numbers of ships and replaced them over those 25 years. In six years of peacetime, the UNSC could definitely muster a navy consisting of at least 2,000 ships, with the production capacity to replace casualties.

[@stevenalfonso4740]

Yes the unsc definitely had more than 500 ships. This assumption that they have less is probably based on the fact that in most all naval encounters during the war that were talked about in halo the covenant won and always outnumbered them. This was not because we had too few ships but because the navy was overstretched over too much space so each planet or systems fleets were relatively small especially against the covenant who did not have to spread their fleets out so each was a large number. Plus by halo 4 its pretty much made clear that the UNSC has been ramping military expansion and upgrade meaning that probably the UNSC had recovered most if not all of its losses in terms of ships and and may even have more than originally

[@cynderfan2233]

At the conclusion of the Human /Covenant war, the UNSC had about 80 ships left of all types, including 9 cruisers. The battle of Reach wrecked the bulk of the UNSC fleet including the most of their cruisers and all of their carriers. Reconstruction after the war could have replaced some of these ships, but they couldn't have more than 200.

[@bluenight104]

cynderfan2233 were did you get that information

[@reverse6652]

Reapers: invade galaxy Covanet: let me introduce you to my friend, *glassing beams*

[@Direwolf9818]

Reapers: that’s cute let me just indoctrinate your entire ruling class

[@ma5bgaming779]

Wait the glass is speaking reapereese

[@primordial1688]

Sovereign: "We are eternal. The pinnacle of evolution and exi-" NOVA bomb: "hippity hoppity your existance is now my property"

[@mattkirby7154]

Disagree with this one, even with diminished forces a combined UNSC and Cov remnants would win against the reapers, you seem to very much under estimate the MAC rounds output. Supermacs/ODPs had enough power to take our 2 Cov capitals and still cripple a 3rd ship with a single round, the more base MACs would still do considerable damage if not cripple any reaper, not to mention the MASSIVE range advantage the UNSC has with them. Cov on the other hand energy projectors would more then likely over penetrate a reaper thus being able to take out more then a few before the reapers came into range. For this match up i do just feel HALO universe has a much higher power level, the combine firepower of the infinity and CSO supercarriers would just melt away the reapers. However one point you make is fair the fighter to fighter battle is not in the Halo universe's favor.

[@user-iy7jo7bq4f]

Reapers' firepower is pathetic even to the Covenant.

[@self-satisfiedsmirk5544]

Matt Kirby His numbers for the UNSC's numbers and military capabilities is wrong, anyways. He stated that the UNSC Navy had only approximately twenty cruisers, total, by the end of the Human/Covenant War. That is just wholly incorrect. The only sort of numbers we get after Halo 3 was how many Humans, and how much of the Home Fleet, survived the Battle of Earth. People are always confusing the numbers given after Halo 3 for the entirety of Humanity's surviving population. Humanity still took staggering losses, but not so much that only around two-hundred thousand Humans survived.

[@Joverlordify]

he even forgot the banished or never know of them

[@Joverlordify]

yeah a 2km long ship could do anything to a 29km ship with power shielding and that was just 1 the covenant in the prime had more a CAO class are 5km long but whatever it a never ending argument

[@user-iy7jo7bq4f]

"The Reapers can literally posses your troops." Here comes the overrated indoctrination, which would work after days of close contact. Covenant doesn'thave that patience; they would just burn everything with plasma. "Sure, the Covenant can kill the Reapers (kinda doubt it)" You do know that Covenant has better offensive powers, right?

[@TheAussieNinja84]

13:30 is why halo wins. Mass effect's ships are like baby versions of halo's. I'd expect it would only require 1 or 2 MAC shots to take one out, especially with the Infinity. Add onto that the fact the covenant (or what's left of them) will have aligned with the UNSC...the reapers simply don't have enough numbers to wipe out a combined UNSC/covenant (post war). Especially considering the fact the reapers couldn't really just pull off a blitzkrieg with the halo universe's FTL.

[@steve1279]

Honestly the reapers would outnumbers them drastically they have been harvesting technology and species for possibly millions of years or atleast the high hundreds of thousands of years. Unless the cove or unsc started using forerunner tech like crazy they wouldn't stand a chance. Even reaper main weapon could ignore shields, just encase the ship in a tomb of molten tungsten the crew would essentially be trapped. The reaper ai would laugh at cortana and covie ai as well.

[@CanadianTehGamer]

@@steve1279 Not true, UNSC frigates would be fast enough to dodge reaper weapons, that and a few well placed rounds from their MAC's would tear apart most reapers.

[@steve1279]

@@CanadianTehGamer most not all. I don't think the unsc weapons would work on the capitol ships but it's hard to compare them when the universes have different rules and all. The combined milky way didn't stand a chance against the reapers without the super weapon in me 3, i just think the reapers would be far too advanced for the unsc and the covenant to handle.

[@CanadianTehGamer]

@@steve1279 You can't just use *vastly outnumbers* as your core argument. The Covenant *vastly outnumbered* the UNSC and the UNSC still won key engagements that pretty much kept Humanity alive for that much longer. If I were to guesstimate, the UNSC could have anywhere between 2000-4000 ships at during the war and considering they would have been pumping out more to replace their loses. Well you get the point, the UNSC had massive dry docks building many different ships while the Covenant had an entire asteroid building and refueling their fleets. The Covenant suffered by human terms huge losses between Reach, the first Halo Ring and Unyielding Hierophant which would easily run to over 700 ships, yet the Covenant leadership considered these combined losses nothing more then minor inconveniences. Only a matter of months after the destruction of Unyielding Hierophant and its 500 strong escort fleet the Covenant was able to launch a full scale attack on Earth. Let's also not forget that compared to the ME universe, the UNSC had a wide variety of ships. Marathon-class heavy cruiser, Halcyon-class light cruiser, Autumn-class heavy cruiser, Valiant-class super-heavy cruiser, Epoch-class heavy carrier, Infinity-class supercarrier, Orion-class assault carrier, Poseidon-class light carrier, Punic-class supercarrier, Diligence-class destroyer, Gorgon-class heavy destroyer, Halberd-class destroyer, Hillsborough-class destroyer, Anlace-class frigate, Charon-class light frigate, Paris-class heavy frigate, Strident-class heavy frigate, Stalwart-class light frigate, Gladius-class corvette, Razor-class light prowler, Sahara-class heavy prowler, Winter-class light prowler and let's not forget the nimble GA-TL1 Longsword-class Interceptor, or the advanced YSS-1000 Prototype Anti-Ship Spaceplane or the F-41 Exoatmospheric Multirole Strike Fighter that the UNSC now fields in great numbers.

[@steve1279]

@@CanadianTehGamer you made some good points there how do you think the unsc would win though? How would they deal with indoctrination, and the husks or the almagamated abominations the reapers could deploy? The reapers would win a ground war without a doubt all of their ships are capable of landing and fighting Just like when they invaded earth. A reaper is no scarab and they will turn humanity and the covenant against each other, that's one of their greatest strengths. They don't just invade recklessly either they can spend centuries or millenia preparing the way, by the time they invade the galaxy would be weakened to the point of a guaranteed win.

[@spectrumshaytokun]

"No space magic" Have you seen the Forerunners or Gravemind?

[@murray9807]

I am surprised no one is mentioning the Reaper's strongest weapon: Indoctrination. Yeah, MAC cannons sure do sound powerful, let's hope the people pointing at it don't target another Human ship.

[@Direwolf9818]

Facts

[@Kjf365]

Or causing the flood to eat itself. Or just taking a Spartan and an Elite and mashing them together like clay to make a horrific reaper soldier.