How to Crank the Torsion Keys on 99-07 GM Trucks *FREE LIFT*

[@papi8311]

Holy shit. You would never see a 06 truck that clean in Michigan

[@npb3871]

My 07 gmc is a rust bucket

[@FromTheRGV]

That is a very clean undercarriage for an 06!

[@gackal1982]

it's important to note that this will change your camber, your tires will wear unevenly and faster

[@trent6626]

So just get an actual lift kit instead for better long term?

[@dylanriggs411]

@@trent6626 yes

[@paulleatham6830]

Does it mess up the alighnment to the point that you can't have have both the extra height and save the tires?

[@bigz5262]

@@paulleatham6830 just get an alignment done after you change the height

[@spentshells1924]

In what degree? The edges of my tires are wearing I assume this will wear them deeper. So i tighten em up for a slight drop and even them out ?

[@LarrySpencer-hv8sf]

You answered most my questions and were correct your a hands on mechanic good video to learn from

[@dgb1305]

Man thats gotta feel great laying on those rocks....

[@brockr1976]

Thanks man. Couple cool cats no nonsense bullshit trying to get sponsored and paid. Ur just trying to help. We appreciate you. I have 2 in. Lift spindals 1-3 torsion aftermarket lift. And a 4 inch block in rear of a duramax 2005 3500 long box full sized four door 4x4. It's a monster and beautiful shape. Not that anyone cares I guess thinking about it. But, ur to invested now in reading this comment if u got this far. Lol point being good video, kick back fellas. Happy fourth to all!!! Be safe and tear it up at same time. Nothing but love for all whom are American..

[@rubenramirez6217]

Ok , guess Is my turn to play with mine . I been investigating for months . Thank you finally

[@rtmdlawncare5774]

I raised mine 1.75 inches and no issues at all. Ride is the same, handling is the same.

[@marcussousa6951]

Now after 4 months how’s it doing

[@rtmdlawncare5774]

@@marcussousa6951 No change. This is my third cat eye generation. All were turned up. Not all the way of course just to level the front end. Never had a problem. Normal tire wear.

[@LBZDIRTYYMAX]

How many full turns did you go?

[@rtmdlawncare5774]

@@LBZDIRTYYMAX I forget now. Just turned to get my desired height. I was nowhere near the maxed out height.

[@huntersaltsman8753]

@@rtmdlawncare5774 did you have to buy anything to do it or was it a complete stock truck. Lookin to put 305s 20x10s on my stock truck lol

[@a_logical_conclusion]

I'm planning on doing this to my Colorado and then getting air shocks for the back to lift that up. $68, 2" lift and about an hour and a half of work on the whole job... Not too bad.

[@plmason12]

I heard you’re supposed to measure each side and make sure the gap is even from the tire to the body. Sometimes the keys aren’t 100% even and one has to be turned a bit more than the other.

[@hiiam_larry2925]

If you're turning each key the same amount of turns it shouldn't mess up their alignment. if they start off in different positions and are turned the same amount of times, they'll end up proportionally in the same position as they started, just higher

[@dailydrivensedans4875]

I actrually asked a chevy engineer about this and he said it is desighned too be cranked all the way up for offroad use only. But for on road use he reccommended a maximum of .75 inch raise or a maximum .5" raise if you pull trailers. However if you pull heavy loads nearing the max it should be left stock or the stability and braking can be too far negatively effected that it becomes unsafe. Up too .75"(no trailer there or no/negligible effects on ride quality/performance/safety/allighnment. However when towing a trailer for the most part .5" is fine but depending on load,weight distribution and raised height the stability and braking will be negatively effected. The more weight you pull/higher you lift it the worse it gets. Basically lots of variables but simplified: No towing on road use-.75" Off road use-as high as you want Light towing-up too .5" Heavy towing-0/0"-do not crank keys Edit:following those guidlines under normal circumstances/factory suspension you will not run into any mechanical/safety/performance problems. Factory ride heights front and rear differ based off of options including: towing packages, offroad packages, engine, differential, single cab etc... but for the most part too achieve a true "level" a leveling kit OR upgraded/larger torsion keys are reccommended. You CAN do it full time just cranking the factory keys but going that route larger keys altogether are a better idea..... If you get larger keys or crank the keys over .75" then suspension longevity and tire wear can(will) be effected and affected.

[@blakemaas7287]

Now go get an alignment before you chew the tires off of it

[@edsmith2503]

Was just thinking, no mention of that!

[@jasontaylor9871]

Now the alignment is all f'ed up, and it's going to ride like a tank. Way to go!

[@seangraham154]

alignment $100 bucks. 2 inch lift up front for 100 bucks. good deal!!!

[@eddiebarrera469]

Yea no alignment shop can alignment that,need the spindle setup for a proper lift,balljoints,4x4 cv axcel boots ,etc,etc will get destroyed.

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@seangraham154 I'm glad you told that Joe Biden loving gun banning clown off.

[@nyladennis2419]

@@eddiebarrera469🎉 I’m glad u told that idiot off

[@jonahbarroga1687]

@@eddiebarrera469nope

[@jackwalsh2595]

Thank I see hella people talking about this I needed to know

[@Angelaraee]

Did you end up doing this?

[@charliestone892]

I hate the squat look but to each his own....the slight rake is bad ass though!! I have 04 cat eye 4x4 thats made me fall in love with Chevy all over again.cant beat the reliable 5.3's. Mine sits on deep dish 20x12 TIS 544's and 33" all terrains...i want to upgrade to 35" mud terrains and crank the keys a bit.already has a 5 or 6" RC lift that I'm not fond of but decent start I guess!! Good how to video man,keep it up!! I know this is 3yrs old and its damn near Halloween 2022 but you still helped me out bro!! Salute from Milledgeville,Georgia

[@nyladennis2419]

Go ahead 😂

[@justingeesey753]

Your buddy cracks me up

[@stayfly17jm]

when he replied with "Ignorant" haha

[@hendy4584]

Great vid, nice and simple to do. A couple good ole boys, love it.

[@Matt.R.B]

Hell yeah man. I needed this info today!

[@CasinovaGaming]

Just found this video because i need to readjust mine. Left side is lower than the right and truck is leaning sideways. Never messed with keys before so this should hopefully fix my chevy lean 😂😅

[@nyladennis2419]

Did u get the POS fixed?

[@edwuncleriii2286]

I’m not gonna jack up my stock keys but if I ordered some forged keys and just did those, it won’t affect my steering/ride quality or anything like that too badly will it? I’m a complete noob when it comes to lifts/leveling kits

[@dano4572]

Yes!! You torque up the torsion keys the suspension travel gets all "fd up!! You will hate yourself!! Don't crank up the keys!! It ruins the way the truck rides!!!!! and turns and,,,,,,,,,,,,

[@adenseay7406]

@@dano4572 new keys will be the same way. New keys only re index them for more lift they still crank the same.

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@dano4572 that's a lie brother

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@adenseay7406 I'm glad you told that Joe Biden loving gun banning clown off..

[@dano4572]

@@wildestcowboy2668 what do you mean "a lie"?

[@raudelsandoval4046]

14 wides fit on a level 🤑

[@hunter.b4197]

Do they? How much rubbing?

[@Hybridpatty]

Hunter.B just gotta trim a little

[@toddprovis7534]

So you should need a front end alignment after lifting front end ?

[@outdoorlife9410]

That's my truck exactly. But damn clean. Wow

[@hectormenchaca1253]

We need to do an alignment after that??? Great video

[@jeremylakenes6859]

So my suspension is touching the rubber stops...I imagine I can just crank it till it doesn’t touch the rubber bumps?

[@jeremylakenes6859]

Five hundred 20s Yes! I just jacked up the front till the tires were off the ground. Then cranked both torsion spring bolts evenly and set the truck down to check results. Rides the same! I want the truck as low as practical yet off the bump stops.

[@jeremylakenes6859]

Five hundred 20s Glad it worked for you! Mine would have a rhythmic bounce on the highway, no more bounce and was free free free!

[@jeremylakenes6859]

@Five hundred 20s wow! Crazy. Make sure you get an alignment if you adjusted it much.

[@Yippa391]

Bought ready lift keys for my o4. 5 2500 diesel. Any need of them or just crank what I got?

[@simonrangel9522]

Very simple & helpful video big dawg.. TY

[@case8729]

Damn that truck is clean under there lol

[@travisjae1775]

I'm glad I came across your video, what do you recommend on the key turns for adding 22x9 on a 2000 chevy silverado 1500?

[@wills.5762]

6:34 look how far off that alignment is now lmao

[@johnclark3431]

I’m almost crying laughing 😭

[@rodneylagace5908]

Hahahaha 😂🤣

[@mrjimenez11]

You measure right height from ground to middle of the fender..

[@blulian]

Haha No. You measure from the center of wheel to the bottom of the fender. Measuring from the ground can be inaccurate due to variables such as tire pressure differences.

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@blulian I'm glad you told that Joe Biden loving gun banning clown off...

[@johnphillipsjr7238]

You can measure it from anywhere you want dumbass🤦‍♂️

[@bword562]

I watched this to you turn my keys down and lower the front of my truck. I had a leveling kit with the keys turned up and it snapped my ballpoints on the oem arm. Watch your ballpoint angles and it’s probably worth it to go aftermarket control arms to fix your back joint angle.

[@johnphillipsjr7238]

🤦‍♂️

[@patrickekstrom]

Ball point lol

[@romanolvera3162]

How many inches did you go up from your leveling kit though ?

[@codymoss8407]

? I have a 2000 4x4 chevy silverado with a rough country leveling kit 4in I replaced the upper and lower control arms and I can't figure out why my lower control arm is going into my shock

[@trevorgamble3367]

Ok I fucked up lol I've been working on vehicles my whole life but I had the truck sitting with no Jack and cranked the torsion bars and yeah don't do that

[@zoomies600]

So this will help with front tires rubbing ?

[@cdb122980]

I have an 05 chevy 2500 plow truck ive gotta do this too.

[@chrischamberlain3489]

How did u make out

[@cdb122980]

@@chrischamberlain3489 Hey I never got around to it but I need to before this snow hits

[@DropHimIn506]

Hey bro, i have a 2002 chvy suburban. I put 285 75 17s all around the truck it kinda rubs in the front would this be a good way to get rid of the lil rub?

[@jacobynoctis4825]

I would probably get new keys. They hold up quite a bit better then stock ones

[@hypnoticxgaming9265]

How much are these keys cranked because I have a 6 inch on my truck (4wd) and the back is slightly taller than the front . And I don’t wanna mess it up by cranking keys to far ..

[@jgueroz71]

Same! Did you ever do it man?

[@austinlefebvre1757]

I have no lift on my truck its a 05 silverado 3500 single axle you think if i crank the keys to about 2.5 3 inches i could get away with puttin 37s on it🤷🏽

[@michaeloliver7483]

How do you get the torsion bar keys back in them got mine out cannot get them back in

[@TheUndertoe]

Don’t forget you need to re aline it

[@johnphillipsjr7238]

Align

[@ShinyKnife]

Can you do this, just to level out a stock truck without to much issue?

[@kcscustom9759]

Shiny Knife: yes you can. Just be careful of the upper control arm stop clearance. And keep in mind generally the higher you crank them without doing any other modifications the worse the ride quality is going to be. What I did with my truck for the time being Is settled for a happy medium, being almost level with a decent ride. However if you want to really crank them up to get it completely level but don’t want to buy a leveling kit and don’t want bad ride quality one option is to get a pair of strut spacers. There fairly cheap and easy enough for anyone to install on their own. Or to save a couple bucks If you know someone that’s decent with fabrication there really easy to make.

[@ShinyKnife]

@Keith I Think I’m just going to leave it alone. It rides good. I just wanted the front to match the rear. But I don’t want to jeopardize the ride Quality or tear anything up. I might check into a proper leveling kit if I decide to do it. Thanks for the info

[@kcscustom9759]

Shiny Knife: Absolutely your welcome

[@hanslanda8303]

Keith’s Garage what about getting beefier keys and getting a good 2” from those compared to just using stock keys and cranking the shit outta them? Feel like new keys would be better

[@imnotawasteoftime]

What jack are you using? I've been using some basic 20ton jacks, but they barely lift my tahoe up enough to barely get the tire off the ground. I have to put a couple pieces of wood under the jack currently. Also, what jack stands do you use, if any? Same issues with my current jack stands.

[@blakemaas7287]

Go to harbor freight

[@ThatBlueHoe]

Yeah I have the same problem 😂 I have to stack 4by4 blocks to jack it up

[@imnotawasteoftime]

@@ThatBlueHoe I ended up buying a Daytona low profile long reach 3 ton from harbor freight. It's on my channel, and have yet to make an update on it, but damn, I have used and abused it, and have used it WAY more than I thought I would. Spending $200 on a jack hurt, but over time, it was definitely worth it

[@TheMilvidas]

you need a new 3 ton jack go steel no aluminum, I bought the Daytona with a 20 inch height works great

[@imnotawasteoftime]

@@TheMilvidas I have a couple Daytona's now lol. Felt guilty spending the money on the first one way back, but I've used it so much, I can't imagine myself without it anymore lol

[@sidneymeyer9014]

What's the size of the bolt, that info would sure help out! Ok.......

[@instigationnation3902]

If you turn it the other way will it lower or does it not turn the other way

[@markm1025]

So if I do this will it mess up my alignment

[@Blackcateye04]

Do you need to realign wheels after cranking them

[@screamingvteccc]

With a all stock set up you can bottom those bolts out with no problem it's not that big of a change lol. Maxed out you'll gain about 1/2" raise lol the 1/2" change wont mess anything up

[@devlinsemmler8236]

You have no idea of what you're talking about. Maxed out it will raise the truck a couple of inches.

[@glennquagmire9737]

@@devlinsemmler8236 literally what he just said

[@GONEZO38]

I have a stock 04 chevy the only thing that was ever put on to the truck 20 i c rim with 33 tires with a Leveling kit. Can I still lift it?

[@ericmartinez5633]

The bolts on the torsion bar are never the same even from factory each torsion bar has different tension

[@wildestcowboy2668]

That's a lie taco...

[@bulldog_garage]

Is it worth getting new keys? I have a 03 suburban z71 and looking at the Motofab 3 front 2 rear keys. Any advice?

[@hanslanda8303]

Matthew Galano I mean if your okay with ride quality worsening and not gonna be driving off-road you’ll be fine

[@ceddiesmallz]

Great job , but how does that effect your alignment?

[@dawnification910]

Every time you mess with suspension always get an alignment. Your front tires will die if you dont

[@TixZen]

Both angles and alignment

[@LookInDJProduction]

Hiow can i find - start - oem position of torsion keys ? mine have different setting from previous owner..id like to set it oem and start correctly set 2,5inch on both

[@brentperkins6521]

I'm wanting to do the same. Did you ever get an answer?

[@garycoleman5771]

Can you lower it to

[@victorsaenz9452]

Some many people here in Texas drive like this and they act like their truck is more capable than mine.

[@noahon2k906]

and it only cranks the front up?

[@Hondo-SLP]

Man you made it so easy to do thanks

[@garay16432]

What happens if you tighten them all the way on a factory set up? How much of a lift does it give you then?

[@davidhagerman132]

Just don’t

[@davebanach9891]

Free lift at the cost of stiffer front suspension

[@shawnlewis5772]

Could you jack up just one of the the truck up and torque the torsion keys? Like do one side and then do the other? Or do you have to have to jack in the middle of the truck?

[@mrcontroversy222]

I did it side by side. My jack was too little at the time! Just measure it!

[@emoltzan]

How you like the fox 2.0 shocks?

[@JakeLikesTech]

It's nice that they built in a lift, problem is, it causes a squat. that shit naaaaasty.

[@isaacchampagne8268]

What socket size do you use

[@marcthefastz1000]

18 mm

[@stedmansmith3972]

Torsion Keys rides horrible get the lift and suspension kit the first time great video though

[@abccanada6248]

Using torsion keys for fine adjustments like an inch or 2 usually doesnt seem to effect it to much it gets really bad when you crank tue bolt to the stop and have everything over extended and misaligned

[@GeneralG40]

What lift kits in installed ok this truck?

[@grandinfinite5921]

Thanks. Gotta do that to my old S10

[@boxdogvids1798]

Did you end up doing it thinking about doing it to mine

[@lukefleming2058]

For some reason my upper control arms dont have any bump stop lol

[@Shallowballow]

What mm socket and does it change the ride a lot

[@dennisl1059]

19mm

[@bradycarroll6665]

Yes it does. My 97 gmc has cranked tortions and it rides tirrible. But I do it for the looks.

[@cddog1995]

Should one of my torsion key bolts be backed out like 1/2" to 3/4" inch below the cross member? The other side is tightened just Above the crossmember. Maybe 1/8" above if that

[@TheDuttonExperience]

Start from factory settings. They're not always the same.

[@shamwow316]

I have an 01 Tahoe 4wd. I'm getting the t key 3inch and blocks 3 inches. I currently run 285/75/16 will have that same issue with the control arm and cv axles?

[@BuddieGui]

What would happen if I maxed them out??

[@codyyellott117]

KnockturnalTV ride like complete shit wear out components

[@chevy208.3]

Did you cut your bump stops?

[@Ace-44]

Does this hurt the truck in any way??

[@kozmicflush980]

any kind of lift will hurt the front end, in the long run. you will just have to buy and replace parts much quicker and hopefully before anything pops loose while driving. dangerous.

[@nneverss]

Dang my torsion key adjustment bolts don't turn that easy....I've got a 3 foot breaker bar on it and cant get it to budge

[@daylonlisenby7807]

Take some pb blaster and spray it on the bolt and should help u out. That’s what I used on mine

[@lilebkillinit]

Make sure it’s jacked up

[@cedrickphillips5248]

Great video

[@nyladennis2419]

I love to watch young , dope headed drunks on you tube! My grandson watched this and raised his front end an then wrecked it…

[@ryanphillips3533]

That's an accusation, opinion and judgment made in the most biased and uneducated way someone could possibly do it in one simple comment, lol!! For one, you haven't the slightest factual evidence proving either of these guys where infact doped up or drunk! You judge someone for doing their own thing because they want too and obviously BTW they talk...??? Wow!! So allow me to explain my experiences with doing this personally with my personal vehicles and company vehicles along with friends and family vehicles. 1st, no accidents afterwards. 2nd, it was done professionally and accurately with every post precaution acknowledged and serviced! 3rd, vehicles are still on the road and both them and the individuals operating them are just fantastic! Point is my friend, each person, career, knowledge and vehicle is different and definitely not the same nor have the same negative experiences another has or have. Not everyone is going to have the same results you all did and vice versa so accept that and try n losen up on the personal judgment calls all because you or someone you knew had a bad experience unfortunately! That's the surest way to represent yourself publicly, very similar to the male genitals shafts gland!

[@nyladennis2419]

@@ryanphillips3533😂 Calm down strawberry I don’t care about u being a huge puff daddy supporter. Btw you left off #4’ I’m sure it was trumps fault right?

[@djturnz]

Do you get an alignment after turning the keys up?

[@jacekinyon1736]

Yeah

[@waverlywhitaker7391]

Thanks 🙏

[@micknightmare3]

what about the back of the truck

[@raylaux8295]

It's Geto

[@kalebjones3349]

Nice video bud 👍🏼

[@johnphillipsjr7238]

No. No it’s not. Totally the wrong thing to do.

[@jeffflournoy7700]

Do you have to have the front I and lander

[@frankmazzenga3404]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@wyattwills8326]

does this work on 2wd trucks too?

[@antkes]

Yes

[@jakeking4898]

So your actually loosening them?

[@hanslanda8303]

U gon have to crank dat shiettt

[@chrischamberlain3489]

Thanks doing mine soon thanks guys

[@grantaugustian6998]

How did it work for you and what year truck do u have

[@tylernielsen3459]

Very helpful video .

[@wyo1234]

Aren't you supposed to use a torsion unloading tool when you do that?

[@btgperformance9234]

Unloading would mean removing the key? So no lol

[@jeffherring6279]

@@btgperformance9234 I don't think it removes the key, it just takes the tension off the bolts so you don't strip them.

[@btgperformance9234]

That’s why you jack it up to remove the tension? Pretty sure I said that In the video? That tool is used to remove the keys.

[@jeffherring6279]

@@btgperformance9234 Sounds Good!

[@noahkloeck5870]

Very helpful

[@thegamert7768]

What size

[@colsonmurphy3172]

no 08?

[@vxscenario1359]

I had a buddy tell me that I can’t level my truck with the torsion bars because he said that when u get your tires aligned they use the torsion bars to align them. So I wanted another opinion so I can prove him wrong(or me wrong if I am haha)

[@isasalah5978]

That's how it works with out replacement keys what about GMC suburban how that works

[@malcolmadams3765]

does it lift the whole truc or just the front?..

[@Daddy_D2015]

He said it, just the front. But keep an eye on the bump stops and angle of your axle

[@manuelrocha6662]

What’s the socket size?

[@blaketindle4703]

He says 18 mm. Looks about right.

[@gonzalesa101]

Can you do this if you have a leveling kit? 04 Chevy Tahoe z71

[@kcscustom9759]

Alfonso Gonzales: yes you can just be careful of the control arm bump stop like he said and keep in mind the higher you go the worse the ride quality gets

[@gonzalesa101]

@@kcscustom9759Thanks

[@kcscustom9759]

Alfonso Gonzales: Absolutely

[@backwoodsmechanics9723]

Cranking your keys is a really bad idea your increasing the angle on your cv joints and stressing your ball joints bad bad idea

[@hanslanda8303]

Aye fuck it right. Ain’t nuttin to worry bout

[@danieleusebio7384]

been had mines cranked all the way for 4 years now and nothing has happened but let me stfu before something does happen 🤣😅

[@screamingvteccc]

Maxed out it's a 1/2" change wont hurt anthing the angle on ball joints will still be almost oem. Like everyone commenting are talking likeits a 6" lift lmfao 1/2" ride height change wont hurt anything

[@hanslanda8303]

screamingvteccc is it bad I cranked mine without the truck being jacked up. Let me tell u that was the most difficult thing I’ve done lol

[@619tbs]

Would you recommend wheel spacers or just a wider wheel ?

[@iPROFITDON]

Comes down to money.

[@kcscustom9759]

A wider wheel will always be safer then spacers but if you happen to run spacers make sure you get hub centric, they are much safer.

[@matthewmorrison9294]

definitely wider wheels. i have 2” spacers on my 2012 colorado and i’m scared shitless of them falling off. save your money buy deep dish wheels. i have a buddy that had 3” spacers and his wheels fell off and totaled his truck.

[@hanslanda8303]

matthew morrison 3in spacers on the rear? Cuz I feel like it’s safer on a SA compared to the IFS

[@danielmorrow4627]

I fell stupid to ask but I have a 05 silverado the bolt on the passenger side is lower than the driver side. What dose that mean.

[@justinaulgur9812]

My trucks the same.

[@outdoordinsmore]

When you crank the torsion you gotta keep the difference the same. Mine was 5 cranks each side, keeping the difference

[@619tbs]

What's the purpose of doing so?

[@adamplacker1701]

B DUB like he explains in the video, some people like the back to squat. For others, they don’t like the factory rake (low front high back) and this is one way to get rid of it without buying a leveling kit.

[@Daddy_D2015]

Or fit different tires/rims

[@RG-sk5en]

@@Daddy_D2015 if i do this to my 02 avalanche, do you think it will fit a 35/12.5/20 tires?

[@Daddy_D2015]

@@RG-sk5en may be pushing it, 32-33, prolly