"BTS is low quality music."

Someone on the Internet calls BTS low quality music - and David gives out a UN speech.
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[@DKDKTV]

한국 분들은 자막 꼭 켜고 보세요! :)

[@meryton]

Saying this again here: Namjoon as our Worldwide President and David as our Vice-President. _Love Yourself. Love Myself. Peace._

[@monitathongam27]

이 영상 너무 너무 너무 너무 고마워요. 너무 행복했어요 이거 보면서.. 나도 인도 사람인데 한글을 너무 좋아해서 배우고 있는 중이에요. 그것도 누구 때문에 ? 방탄소년단 때문에. 방탄는 내 힘이고 내 자신감 생기게 해주는 분들이에요.. 이것은 한국 사람들한테 꼭 알려드리고 싶은 마음이 도 있습니다. 정말 감사합니다 다비드 그리고 대니.💜💜

[@DKDKTV]

@@monitathongam27 와 한국말 진짜 잘하네요! 대박이에요

[@monitathongam27]

@@DKDKTV 앗.. 고마워용.. DKDKTV 짱이야 👍🏻👍🏻

[@marlypea]

LOL before you said it in the video I said it to my computer screen... Well, who is promoting the Korean language?

[@izabellele3770]

Dude I got chills when David said “who’s promoting Hangul the most”

[@sneha1296]

Same

[@daeguboy8136]

Same wtfff the white dude was making me feel bad with his comments about bts' music quality and then davis said that and oof,,,i felt so proud of bts

[@satanslefttoee]

@@flowers4933 "HonGool"

[@yunho4thgenace748]

Same

[@yunho4thgenace748]

@@flowers4933 what? Hangul? If you meant Hangul, then no, he pronounce it correctly. He just using "r" instead of "l", probs because english accent.

[@bangtansugakookies1550]

Don't worry. I won't go to his video and send him hate. I'm not giving that guy my time or view. I'd rather sit here, and enjoy my *high quality* BTS music.

[@softjonie6608]

BangtanSugaKookies slay

[@soapiee]

YES

[@cookie-jk1ph]

PREACH!!!

[@PhuSuHuynh]

BangtanSugaKookies Facts

[@candyycotton]

And now I am sure your bias is mIn sUGA😊

[@shookga]

Meanwhile seokjin to every person he met: *"DO YOU KNOW BTS?"* Anyway, david is such an *INTELLECTUAL* *I STAN!!*

[@cga13thtrips]

Shookga 🤣🤣🤣 thanks to this comment, i calmed down a lil bit😅😤

[@mohammadabbasbaloch3862]

Bts is gay asf

[@josephineacod2795]

Shookga I so agree with you about David being intellectual. I stan him,too. And I thank him for his explanation of some BTS songs. Otherwise, they are just songs to me.

[@cga13thtrips]

Mohammad Abbas Baloch and here you are, loves watching these gay asf men. Enjoy

[@harleenkaur2278]

Thanku for calming me down 😂😂😂😂

[@JanePanjaitan]

"Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean other people won't. And.. just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's low quality." 5:38

[@zeyphr1362]

@@DarkAngel2512 go hate somewhere ,,,,u same bitching in each n every comment ,,,,haters like u are everywhere

[@mz3674]

R K agreed but like do u rly think their music is low-quality?

[@zeyphr1362]

@@mz3674 plz dont engage with this person army.....just ignore all the haters..

[@mz3674]

Princess Rami I wouldn’t say they’re hating, just saying what they truly think. I want to know the reason so I’m asking nicely. I want to understand so I’m going to communicate.

[@zeyphr1362]

@@mz3674 as u wish ...go ahead

[@cviolist]

I have a master's degree in classical music, and it really irritates me when people call some music "low quality" just because it's different from what they're used to considering "good". The artistry, technical skill, ingenuity, and emotional and intellectual depth of BTS's music all lead me to consider it "high-quality" music. I think the main reason why so many people, especially middle-aged Western men, have such a negative view of boy-bands is because Westerners are used to viewing it as music for young people, especially young women, and they don't want to believe that young people (especially women) could appreciate the artistic depth of something more than they can.

[@lucyfiniarel2347]

Preach

[@anetuifua2029]

ugh we love an educated sister

[@monimuppet6132]

I grew up on classical music, my father played classical piano, it is my first love. There are some BTS songs that fill my heart the same way my father's playing used to (may he RIP). They make beautiful and thoughtfully composed songs. Even if their sound isn't your taste the quality cannot be argued. I actually pity this man, he obviously doesn't know the joy of music at all.

[@letsHugElefanten]

Exactly! That always reminds me of the Beatles (without trying to compare their music or success) and how in the early years they got so much shit from the older generations SIMPLY because most of their fans were teenage girls... This whole "it can only be good if old(er) men like it" concept really pisses me of

[@elisphantomhive2209]

cviolist I agree with you 100% why is this comment not getting enough likes? This should be on top

[@leesh3319]

I knew absolutely nothing about Korean culture before Bts came into my life. They truly introduced so many people to many Korean aspects. From music to makeup to drama and to their language, I thank bts for all of that. Saying that they are low quality is truly not the way to start 2019.

[@lalotaku1115]

leesh so true. I started getting interested in the culture and lots of shows ,dramas,variety shows,korean food,kpop industry in general 😫 thank u so much Bts

[@msbeatrice_8124]

I wonder if that guy realizes ARMY was in the Korean news a few months ago for doing a Hangul project on Hangul Day to honor the language BTS has caused us to appreciate.

[@janzibunz8689]

Actually though

[@juncantdress]

He’s obviously an old dude whose probably like “back in my day...” well guess what? This is ARMYs day and BTS is sharing their culture with the world!!

[@양지혜-i3h]

I can read 한글. I'm a novice Korean language learner (using 현우's TTMIK books, btw). I know about Korean traditional clothing. I know about the drinking rules and traditions in Korea. I know about the culture surrounding age and power and how it relates to respect and respectful speech (존댓말). I know who the president of South Korea is (문재인). I can name at least 5 or 6 cities in South Korea. *I wouldn't know ANY of this if BTS did not first get me interested in the Korean culture/music/language.*

[@_say_the_name_17]

I wish I knew as much as you do now~♪ I recently was also introduced to Korea in general (recently due to being raised in a not very open-minded nor diverse society) by bts and a few more idol groups~• I find the country itself fascinating in its own self regardless of my little knowledge of it.

[@aleenaa7099]

EXACTLY, bts do a lot more than top the billboard charts

[@DKDKTV]

Who here isn't even Korean and they ask strangers if they know BTS? P.S. Please don't go to his channel to post hateful comments. What happens in DKDKTV stays in DKDKTV

[@shubhamchandiok6700]

Literally me

[@vminmymuse]

DKDKTV MEEEEEE

[@lucicanapar1896]

Guilty 😋

[@charrenv5501]

DKDKTV ME AHHAAH😂😂😂

[@MitaK48]

Me 😂💗💗💗

[@Ameena93]

Isn't it great that bts is promoting hangul and Korean culture to the people around the world? I had absolutely no interest in Korea or hangul or anything before bts. The only reason I started learning hangul is to understand bts lyrics. The reason I learn more about Korean culture daily is because of bts. So yeah, I think Korea can take a lot of pride in bts!

[@yongi4ev3r34]

Yeah right...

[@DKDKTV]

yes a lot of pride! and i hope you enjoy your journey learning Hangul

[@Ameena93]

@@DKDKTV It isn't that easy but Hangul is absolutely amazing and I fell in love with it. It's a beautiful journey!

[@kookieda]

i learn hangul bcuz BTS

[@suju2007200]

Ameena M yes ,, totally I agree with you,,

[@thequeensconcubine1804]

You don't like BTS? Fine. You think they dress like girls? Fine. You think they look like girls? Fine. But the one thing you have to admit is that they make the most high quality music I and a lot of people have heard in years. You don't get a Cultural Merit Medal making low quality music. You don't get to speak at the UN making low quality music. You don't built up such a dedicated and loving fanbase making low quality music. Therefore, the statement that BTS makes low quality music is just blatantly untrue.

[@04.adhila16]

Preach 🙌!!

[@aynahan8599]

um not being salty but compare to other kpop groups their music quality is actually a bit low and too mainstream. yeah it has good lyrics but it's not a really high quality music. i like most of their b side tracks too though

[@04.adhila16]

@@aynahan8599 personally I feel that bts makes better music than rest of the kpop group...it's subjective I guess

[@04.adhila16]

@@aynahan8599 yes

[@miwhapark6729]

Jung Ayna compared to which groups or singers? Just because their music is popular and catchy their quality is less than others? Really so mainstream people have no taste in music? So tired of people commenting about who's music is better quality. If you don't have listeners then maybe the music isn't good enough? Music is only good if people listening to it respond to it and want to listen more. As long as there are people enjoying their music to them BTS music is high quality. I don't other kpop music is better. It's to each his/her own.

[@rayesafan9628]

This guy is like that English high school teacher that’s like “ughhh, Harry Potter sucks because it’s popular and bad”. Like “when’s the last time you made a worldwide phenomenon?”

[@dietotaku]

basically. like, perish the thought that these things became so popular because they're GOOD...

[@kirafawkes6529]

Yes, this comment right here, 💯%

[@jeonjungkook-zm4hx]

bts didn't get The Order Of Cultural Merit for nothing 😂😂😂 to be exact: „ “Many young people overseas are now singing Korean lyrics, one of the examples of (BTS) contributing to not only spreading Hallyu, but also Hangeul,” Prime Minister Lee Nak Yeon was quoted by Kim, the report said. “ source: inquirer.net

[@DKDKTV]

thank you for the exact quote and source

[@Sneeli21]

Preach🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿

[@sabtsftw6518]

I'm from Argentina. I started being an ARMY in 2016, before that I knew NOTHING about South Korea, about their culture, history or language. Right now, I know how to read hangul, I did research about Korea's history, and I wish that someday I can visit the country. Everything was because of BTS, because I wanted to understand them and their culture. I think that a lot of people is not conscious about the phenomenom that BTS is and how because of them young (and not so) people is interested in Korea.

[@zenadawalibi2701]

Yo tambieeeeeen. Iguaaallll jajaja !!! Los descubrí en 2016 cuando estaba en la Facu. Amo Korea y quiero ir allí lo mas pronto posible !!!

[@Kimyeontan]

I don't know why, but after hearing you defend BTS and putting into words what I've always wanted to tell anyone who called BTS a low-quality boy band just made me shed tears. Actually, I guess I do know why. After being a fan for a long time and now seeing their messages for the youth being written off as typical pop music, it makes my heart shatter. I understand that people aren't obliged to read and interpret the lyrics and people are entitled to their opinions, but I think the least you can do before you judge the quality of a song is to look at the lyrics, message, and effort put into it. The members of BTS may not be the most musically refined artists to ever walk on this Earth, but they have powerful messages for their fans and that's something rare these days. BTS has come a long way since their debut and seeing their music, messages, and personalities blossom and mature over the years is something truly inspirational. As you said, music is no longer solely for the ears. It is consumed by the ears, heart, eyes, smell(?), and brain. BTS developed a complex story with underlying messages and among an industry of commercialized music, they put their personal stories into the world. I think that in this industry, their willingness to go above and beyond makes their music truly refined in a way that cannot be ignored.

[@harrymichaeljaya3288]

날봄 Amazing word and agree with you. But smell the song, that's different too.🤔🤔🤔

[@cherrychubbz3389]

Louder for the people at the back!

[@양지혜-i3h]

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS!!!! I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF!!! :)

[@lovelyv2298]

Rebecca承 轉 結 You made me cry in a my heart is warm with Army’s love kind of way.I love them to.I Purple You

[@emvuosku4219]

They promote reading and education as well. Low-quality music wouldn't teach me about psychology, literature, arts, mythology, politics, the list goes on. I read Demian because of BTS, I started dancing because of Jimin (I hate exercise so it's a healthy life decision as well). BTS has brought my eyes onto worldwide problems and expanded my vision on the society. And I'm a 16 year old. Come to think about how much influence they have on a million other teens. They influence the next decision-making generation.

[@roaaalrofaie5527]

“who is promoting Hangul the mosttttttt?????” IS THE GODDAMN HIGHLIGHT OF THIS VIDEOOOOO THANK YOU DAVID.

[@mzrite2b]

I disagree with you regarding this KZbinr's commentary. Please, recall when BTS and other KPop Groups traveled to America and were interviewed by the media, they were asked the same lame questions over and over again by so-called American Journalists (except Zach, Jimmy Fallon and few others) like, "Who's your favorite American actress? Would you ever do an album in "English?"...etc. Not once did any of them ask them about the Korean Culture or Language or how they want their music to affect society as a whole. In the midst of all of that, BTS showed class and character (which are traits that I find are valuable and held in high regard in the Korean Culture). BTS and other KPop Groups (EXO, Twice, BlackPink, Ikon and the list goes on) exemplify true talent, humility, sincerity and passion which is lacking with a lot of American Artists. These young men and women put in a huge amount of time, effort, "Blood, Sweat & Tears" into this and to say that BTS are "McDonalds" is very disrespectful. I have always been interested in Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese and other Eastern cultures. I was introduced to BTS in 2016 during the Wings Series when I heard a snippet of Blood, Sweat & Tears. I watched this video and I was captivated because I hadn't seen anything like them since Michael Jackson. This lead me to not only want to watch more of their videos but, I wanted to know more about the Korean Culture. They allowed us a peek into their everyday lives and helped me and others realize that we are the same! We make look different; but, we go through the same mental, health, economic and educational issues! BTS deserves the many blessings and accolades they've received recently (& there's more to come!). Everyone has a right to their opinions. Maybe he should have done a better job with his delivery. Cause if his intentions were to "educate" Koreans about how to communicate with people from other countries who come are visiting Korea, he should "educate" Americans how to communicate with people from other countries, also.

[@cinnamonbunchim1609]

They might not be promoting hangul nor the korean culture directly through interviews, but BTS helped put South Korea on the map and attracted attention towards the country. They have caused people like you and me, who are non-korean citizens, to gain an interest in the country and the culture there. Therefore, they have indirectly helped spread korean culture by becoming global artists.

[@nursabrinaauni701]

@@peyton4895 yeah. That's why jimmy fallon is an exception as stated by him/her. 😂

[@Mono-ni7yu]

mzrite2b Because I’ll be honest, they are just trying to get a controversy.

[@hadiaelhallou9996]

this is the best thing i have ever read

[@rosesforhanjisung4161]

Have you posted this in his video aswell? Because this is so beautifully well written and i think nice constructive criticism enough to be well recieved, please do if you haven't maybe more good will come 💜💜

[@aysenurg5609]

He shouldnt compare an American being proud of McDonald's and Korean being proud of BTS. Too different. When one is born and live in a country mostly consist of one nation it is understandable to have nationalistic pride. Because you are raised and educated with that pride. Most small countries have that nationalistic pride. USA is not one nation. Comparing to many countries long history, US has a short history and made out of many nations and cultures and states. He sounds just fed up with exaggerated enthusiasm for a music group he can't identify with. Besides their music, the amount of touristic boost BTS gives to their small country's economy is enough to be proud of. Don't be bitter and move on.

[@MLC92]

That is the same thing I thought when I watched the video. I think it also applies for small countries, we take pride in pretty much anything that gives us international exposure haha. US is very different BC most countries have some level of exposure to their culture. Like, when asking people where they are from (in a very international gathering) most just say their country, but I noticed Americans often say their city/state instead. I know it is a small thing but it does show that they expect others to know what Iowa or Tennessee is, for example.

[@radentlm6669]

aysenur....finally you are saying the truth.

[@MingukFilms]

Also, sorry me again. I also learned Hangul because of BTS. I don't know the language yet, but I can read and write the entire alphabet!!! So... thanks to BTS!

[@esmecristal]

Minguk Films same !

[@TamaraRiziq]

Same here! I learned korean and hangul because of bts.

[@Carmellx]

that's practically the summarize of this video. spread love sweeties~

[@dnd6526]

Same like me, even sometimes i dont really know the meaning but i can read now 😂🙏

[@illupi2001]

This true

[@oktiarmy2361]

He forget about millions armys learn hangul bc BTS

[@ryant9691]

I dont think its actually 'millions' let alone 'million'

[@jinnieneutron7572]

@@ryant9691 i would say it is. Bts get roughly 800k-1m+ likes a tweet. Thats how many active fans there are just twitter. On their instagram thats not even managed by them, they get roughly 2.5-3mil+ likes on every post. On jhopes birthday vlive broadcast, he had 9.6million viewers watching it live. And not only social media, but their stadium tour sold out incredibly fast. That alone shows you how dedicated and huge this fanbase is. Im guessing there are at least 10million+ people who are casual fans. And at least 3-5million dedicated fans.

[@ryant9691]

@@jinnieneutron7572 okay I agree.

[@ponderingk]

Hong Pi - it's not like they create 6,000 accounts though

[@yunho4thgenace748]

@@soobinsbread6723 but I don't think someone would create multiple account just to watch Jhope's vlive.

[@christadreyer5397]

The thing I don’t get is he’s praising Korean culture yet talking shit about actual Koreans WTF IS THAT

[@alannac.7392]

Christa Dreyer Exactly!

[@misshani2787]

Yeah!

[@candaces.7547]

Christa Dreyer preach girl!! I was like this white dude is telling Koreans what to be proud of?! Gtfo

[@babswayne5193]

Christa Dreyer yeah!! part of the reason I like dkdktv is bc it’s Koreans explaining Korean stuff. Think about how Danny and David used the recent controversy w jimin’s atomic bomb shirt to shed light on the truth behind the tragedy and its victims. They spread a good message, and they did it w out trying to deliver any of their own hot takes in the process. W the McDonald’s dude, I can’t help but feel like he’s doing the exact opposite; spreading his opinions on music while hiding behind a (admittedly good!) message

[@purples707]

The only Korean I know who asks,"Do you know BTS?" is actually Jin XD

[@arcanelvr]

Yess

[@soaringbongo]

Suga too 😆

[@crystal7413]

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@DKDKTV]

and David too

[@jeonjungkook-zm4hx]

yess😂😂😂😂

[@luisadoamaral]

David defending BTS at the end of the video is me everyday when people ask me why on earth someone with my age and cultural background has surrendered to “mindless pop”.

[@emant4145]

My story in a nutshell

[@Cindy-pu4pe]

Hey. I am 64 and BTS is NOT mindless pop! Their music is interesting and diverse. rap, hiphop, pop, R&B.. Ther is something for every taste and I Generly do not like Rap but I'll watch Daewitcta I wish this kindle had a Hangul keyboard) at least once every day. and I just have to jump up and dance to Dynamite even though my knees are shot and I need my nitro afterwards. lol. I loved to dance before my knees went out. lol

[@imasunflowerlilfunny3353]

@@Cindy-pu4pe i like bts. But you are not 64. i mean nooo u r not 64

[@paulaortega3756]

@@Cindy-pu4pe Just came across this video and your reply. I, too, am 64 and have become mesmerized by BTS. They have given me a jolt of energy, kindness and laughter.

[@lallygamer4062]

@@imasunflowerlilfunny3353 Old people can like BTS there’s a good amount of percentage of older people listening to BTS so stop being ignorant.

[@cloudy762]

I feel like people see the label of 'boyband' and instantly feel the need to distance themselves to prove some kind of elitism or 'good music sense' or something idk. First of all music elitism needs to die, it's absolutely ridiculous. If it makes someone else happy it's valid, even if it doesn't fit your own personal opinion of 'good'. Second, I really do feel that no one is doing it like BTS at the moment. They aren't just creating music anymore but a whole experience. I haven't heard of anyone else stringing all their albums together and creating a whole storyline over the years. They release their music with a purpose and not just for the sake of it. Also, they sing about real personal matters, their own and problems we face in society and in life. They also focus on us being our own saviours and them being our support system as much as we are their's. They really help you grow as a person. Even if you aren't a fan of BTS or Kpop or pop in general, you can't help but respect the work that they do.

[@lilcheri]

equilibrium underrated comment

[@AIkitty3]

yeah, people have the general idea that boyband=girls+money, classical or opera music=professional/ dedication. It's not always like that but people just automatically rules it as crappy music without bothering to find out the truth

[@yunho4thgenace748]

@@AIkitty3 ikr!

[@shreya446]

you said it sister! music elitism irritates me -_-

[@lovelyv2298]

equilibrium You got to respect men in their 20’s that can totally change the life of a 59 year old Grandma in America with sincere deep meaning song lyrics.Really who else can do that? No one but Kim NamJoon (RM)The genius high quality music leader of BTS.Please give him the respect that he deserves.They are changing the world wearing the mask of a boy band.

[@Spiderpunkrocks]

I mean a random korean approaching me and asking, do you know hangul, the korean alphabet? Doesn't sound any better, so wth is his point? I actually learn alot of the korean culture without even me noticing because of bts. So korean having bts as the nations pride is quite reasonable, because they make people around the world aware of the korean culture, at the same time producing great music. And American people surprisingly is very welcome with bts, one time I was talking with my cousin who lives in california and I didn't even brought up bts because I know its not her thing, but she's the one who brought it up herself, saying how everyone knows them in the US, so yeah I think bts just effortlessly promotes korean culture as well, you could add that to the list of great things they done

[@zeyphr1362]

bts are just so freaking talented humble and generous

[@sunitajaiswal1722]

and the amount they donate to Korea's economy is incomparable

[@MsT1013]

I’m language teacher for adults. I have many cultures represented in my classes, and I’d never belittle an aspect of someone’s culture in this manner. I’m surprised a teacher would do so so vehemently and publicly. This gentleman is incredibly short-sighted, and does not truly understand BTS’s global, cultural, and economic impact. My son has Aspergers. A symptom of this is an intense, narrowly focused interest in often obscure topics. His interest since 2012 has been BTS and Korean culture. He would NEVER have discovered Korean culture without them. Through him, our entire family became interested in Korean music, culture, food, etc. I mentioned I’m a language teacher- I’m already bilingual and now, have learned to read Hangul and am practicing Korean **because of** BTS. I can almost guarantee I’d never have become interested in Hangul otherwise. Perhaps this man should’ve thought his entire argument through first before making his remarks-but I find it’s **always the middle-aged white dudes who want to lecture everyone else about what they should/shouldn’t do, wear, say, and like. 💁🏻‍♀️ Sorry, Mr. Caucasian man. You don’t get to tell Koreans who/what they are allowed to discuss. Stick to teaching English. Skip the commentary.

[@salmonnoa5461]

👏👍🏻

[@shortytrouble4276]

Stephanie Turro ... Your comment is one of the best I have read so far. I am a 61 year old American who happens to enjoy listening to Kpop, in particular to BTS. My favorite genre of music is Country; however, not everyone is keen towards that type of music. Several years ago I came across some Kpop music videos and at some point I stumbled upon BTS early in their career. There was just something extra about them and their music that struck a chord within me. I started to listen more to their music, in particular to their song lyrics, along with learning a little bit about them: who they were and how they got to where they were today. Through them a spark was born...I wanted to learn more about their Korean culture including their language along with wanting to try some of their Korean dishes. I even started to watch K-Drama shows (with English subtitles). Unfortunately, this teacher is very short-sighted and close-minded. He only looked on the surface and since it “did not fit” into what his definition of music he felt the need to make a comparison. However, as a teacher he should encourage his students to learn about the world around them...finding a common ground would be a good place to start. What is undeniable is how BTS, a group of seven young men, broke records and made ground-breaking news. Where they started and how they are today shows how much sacrifice and effort they have put into their work and getting their message out.

[@anteikucoffeeshop2975]

Very well said 😊

[@viaciel]

BTS didnt debut till 2013 though? maybe you confused the year

[@MsT1013]

Toria Orbis He has followed them since since predebut.

[@joyl9836]

I'm sorry David & Danny I'm going to go into a little rant in your comment section lol. The thing that irked me about the guy's video isn't him saying that BTS is low quality. Opinion is opinion, so I understand not everyone is going to like them. It's the fact that he had the audacity to compare people to food. He literally compared people to inanimate objects. He compared breathing, thinking people, to hamburgers & french fries. As someone who's an immigrant into North America, it makes me think that he sees the inanimate (like language) as the only thing that makes a culture. For me, culture is based on at least 5 different things. People, history, tradition, language, and food. In that order. I wholeheartedly believe that PEOPLE are the core of what makes a culture. For a culture to exist you NEED someone to start it. Uphold it. To take pride in it. And Bangtan has done exactly that. They have never strayed away from their roots no matter how deep into the West they went, and have given people in the West reason to look further than what's in front of their nose. So what's wrong in taking pride in people, when those people are giving your culture a chance to be explored? To be learned? And to be loved? Rant over. My apologies once again lol. Thank you for being levelheaded, and saying exactly what you said.

[@misshani2787]

Up! BTS=people=culture. McD=culture? NO!

[@fp_ilovelies2351]

PREACH!! SAY IT LOUDER FAM!!!

[@lakshmiforeveryoung1833]

love this

[@lissaoh9031]

i preach this sis

[@soybeanmilkandcats]

No need to be sorry *you killed it*

[@namjoonsbonsai7354]

You know what? I vote Kim namjoon as president and David as vice president. Try to change my mind. I dare you.

[@mastahand]

*THE GUY LEFT A RESPONSE on my comment on how he got it wrong before this video.* And he still seemed lost. It ended up LENGTHY but was worth it. Please expand to see how it went. *------- MY COMMENT 1/2 -------* *If you want to discuss culture, try to see it with different perspectives.* Sure, Kpop is not for everyone and bragging about it might look embarrassing. But you don't need to mock it because you *THINK* it's low-quality. Plus, the idea that Hangul is the best alphabet in the world is subjective. Look dude, do you even realize how hard you tried to make a nonsense video... *You've made a STATEMENT out of a "gut-feeling" opinion.* It only makes me cringe that those cynical 'woke' Koreans agree with you in the comments shouting butthurt Kpop fans are coming to get you. Not being a nationalistic guy, let me quote exactly what you said to prove how wrong your monologue was. _"This is something that's not easy to define."_ _"BTS is kind of low quality music, I'm sorry to say."_ _"I would have to say they're kind of low-quality. It's kind of low quality music."_ _"The point of this video is not to shit on BTS."_ *You admitted that personal preference is a SUBJECTIVE issue* *but seconds later you just branded one as "low-quality."* Even exemplifying the band as "a shitty boy group" to "give some context," you audaciously said "the point of this video is not to shit on BTS." I was amazed by how legit it sounds to make your point. _"If you want to talk about high-quality music, we got like Mozart and Beethoven."_ _"Even there's some modern bands that I would consider high-quality music like..._ _Radiohead, or... I don't know... Like Jimi Hendrix or... Something like that."_ Funny you mentioned Radiohead and Beethoven here. *But what gives you a reason to bash on something which you don't understand?* *Have you ever even bothered to look at their lyrics and see how they would resonate with other people?* Overlooking is always easy. _"Imagine if me as an American, you know, I'm in Korea and I meet a Korean person I say,_ _like, "Hey you know what's awesome about America? McDonald's!" And I get this big pride in me..."_ _"You know McDonald's is the most popular restaurant in the world!_ _Isn't that amazing?! Isn't that cool? America is awesome!"_ _"That's the kind of feeling we get."_ Who do you think you're to say "That's the kind of feeling *WE* get"?? What an arrogant move from a person who talks about cultures. You also completely neglected a geological factor on this matter: *How a small, non-English-speaking country has made such an impact* *to the rest of the world in pop culture for the last years.* *Yet, fueled by a subjective rationale, all you had to do was mocking with stretching facial muscles.* Shameful. _"But we have this gut feeling which is McDonald's is low quality food."_ _"And BTS is kind of low-quality music, I'm sorry to say."_ Ah, so you're trying to put some sort of music in the same line with an obesity-creating food chain. I would understand though, if any music on earth actually causes cancer or something. Solid analogy worth making it as the title? Kind of low-quality, I'm sorry to say. _"And I think that breaks my heart about this is that there is something to be very proud of as a Korean._ _There is a very Korean nationalistic pride worthy thing. And that's Hangul."_ _"If we're the only conscious living things in the universe Hangul is the best alphabet in the universe."_ _"Korean people don't really take pride in Hangul and that breaks my heart."_ Switching the subject and praising the superiority of Hangul... Everyone would agree that Hangul deserves a better place when introducing Korea. *But the thing is, it's another self-centered claiming that it's the best alphabet among every language.* *Ironically, you're being the nationalist.* *Understandable* - Your Korean friend telling your American friend "BTS is cool!" *Narrow-minded* - Your American friend being like "This is what Korea is proud of?" *Nice* - You jumping in and explaining how great Hangul is *Note* - Bringing up pop culture is probably more fun at parties than talking about languages _"I hope that Korean people can feel a little more proud about other parts of Korean culture."_ I get the bottom line. You might have wanted to create a bit of stir, making those debates among communities. But too bad that it'll be made by such a flimsy video. I suggest getting a proofreader for your script next time. *------- OP'S RESPONSE in the comment below -------* *------- KZbin won't let me put the whole thread (maybe bc it's too long) -------*

[@mastahand]

*------- OP'S RESPONSE 1/1 -------* I don't particularly want to get into Internet arguments about this stuff, but I do want to give the other perspective. If you'd like to make a video in response to this one, I would be happy to put it up on my channel. The video can be in English or Korean. Especially answering what is narrow-minded, and why is criticizing an aspect of a culture immediately narrow-minded? Is it ever okay, or not narrow-minded, to criticize some aspect of a culture? Can you give an example of something culturally that is not narrow-minded to criticize and why it's not narrow-minded to criticize that, but it is narrow-minded to criticize BTS? It would be good to hear why my analogy with McDonalds food fails. I understand that McDonalds food is not good for you, but I would say that a lot of artistically, objectively, high quality food is also probably pretty bad for you, and that when you judge the objective quality of some piece of art, it's impact on one's health shouldn't be taken into consideration. Could you please answer the more difficult question of, is there an objective value to art or is it all purely subjective? Somehow I would say Mozart's Requiem has some objective quality to it that makes it better than N'Sync's Bye Bye Bye, despite the fact that I enjoy listening to Bye Bye Bye more than Mozart's Requiem. Anyway, I'd like to get some dissenting opinion, and I know it's a pain in the butt to make a video, but if you have some time and can just shoot a video (even just from your laptop or phone) I'd be glad to put it up. It's really my intention to show Korean people what some foreigners may think on certain subjects about Korea, because I feel like youTube and Korean media is full of foreigners praising all aspects of Korea. Even if someone doesn't agree with what I have to say, I think it's good for them to hear it because it can better sharpen their views as to why I'm wrong. I really appreciate the time and thought you put into your comment, and I hope to give your thoughts and opinions a platform as well! *------- MY COMMENT 2/2 -------* *You know what, all of your questions are already answered elsewhere.* You're a KZbinr... With all due respect, please care to read and watch them. I appreciate your offer but I don't see any need for making a video for you. If you need more explanations after seeing this and other parts of the internet including this comment section, you should consider quitting commentaries on a culture. Let's start off by breaking down your logic. *_BTS = Popular but low quality = McDonald's → Nationalistic pride? Cringeworthy_* *_→ Why not other great things → Like Hangul the Best_* Apparently, a majority of viewers can't quite catch up with your thought process but only have been left scratching their heads after watching your video. I want you to know that it's not 'omg how dare you hate our oppas' kind of situation here. It's absolutely okay to be subjective and critique things that are beloved by many. In fact, I endorse you to challenge them. But be aware that this backlash you're getting right now is NOT just because you did so. It is because, *your reasoning was weak enough to jeopardize your whole point of "BTS is McDonald's."* To put it simply, you flopped on so many levels that it made you look like a troll... 1. The unhealthy image of McDonald's contradicts positive undertone in songs of BTS. If you're talking about layers of thoughts, many people - not just their fans - have been impressed by how deep some of their lyrics are. *It would've been a little more plausible if you targeted Kpop industry in general.* But I guess you were too hungry for views... 2. While your metaphor remains questionable, *you ridiculed someone else's pride because you think it sucks.* *That alone, leaves much to desire for a KZbinr who wishes to tell about cultures "truthfully."* But what I can understand is that, set aside all the pro's, you could think they are too shallow and too 'gay.' It leads to another question of being "narrow-minded" and "subjective." 3. *_Okay so, you CAN be proud of BTS then how about Hangul?_* *_You gotta be more proud of it cuz it's greater than Kpop!_* You see, from a 'profound' standpoint, many more people would agree that 'Hangul is more pride-worthy than Kpop." But from a 'sensational' standpoint, they would be divided into two groups for "which is more pride-worthy?" That's how *different STANDARDS by different people* work. And I would say that those criteria are hugely played out in 'a degree of consensus.' Which explains why Mozart is regarded more 'high-class' than NSync. I hope this briefly answers to your question about "objective and subjective values to art." If you still want me to elaborate, I seriously hope you to just go google it because I'm not here to write a freakin dissertation for you. 4. *If you look down on others' standards, not willing to take it from their perspective,* saying like, "Is THAT what you're proud of? How sad!" or, "Look, here's Hangul and you chose to promote THAT over it!?" *congratulations you are narrow-minded and you can keep getting disliked.* You don't become a narrow-minded person "immediately" when you just criticize anything including BTS. You become one when you do it wrong. It breaks my heart how confident you were in this speech... Thanks for the reply.

[@mastahand]

Aaaand he deleted the video...

[@alexknight8174]

casternet this was pure straight facts can someone give me a link to the actual video please.

[@EM-rm2xh]

@@mastahand Wow. Not only did this guy not think about the content of this particular video, it seems like he just has an entire mindset that needs some reconsideration. He has so many inate biases that he's never bothered to think about. He has the music bias (classifying one type of music over another--and let me just add that using classical music as an example of the "highest class" of music is such a white person thing to do and proves having a very outdated, stale viewpoint--and I say this as an older white person). He has the cultural superiority bias. The confirmation bias (I talked to my friend back in the west and we laughed about these Korean's silly pride in a "boyband"--we both agreed it was ridiculous). And the generational bias to name a few. Thank you for your post. Very interesting to see how flawed not just this video but his overall logic is. I read that he is a teacher, so hopefully next time he takes a page out of his own book and does his homework before coming to such illogical conclusions.

[@illuzionist]

Not all heroes wear capes. You, casternet, are an absolute hero. I love how you laid out your points clear and structured and critcized his weak statements without resorting to just pure insults on his person. Thank you. T.T

[@organic_juice5816]

I work at McDonald’s and I’m an ARMY....

[@organic_juice5816]

Erwin aw thank you i appreciate it💜

[@ganettarahayu5413]

I like Mcdonald and i'm an ARMY... 💜

[@mypace1770]

I went to eat at Wendy’s and I was missing McDonald’s while eating Wendy’s 😩

[@aspeenus774]

i know this was made over a year ago but i need to rant. BTS didn’t go through all those hardships, being mistreated, getting false accusations, starting from the lowest of the lowest, training extremely hard, go through personal problems, they didn’t write all those meaningful lyrics that have helped MILLIONS of people, they didn’t go from 0 to 100, they didn’t make a whole campaign, full ass albums, concerts, interviews, speeches, about loving, accepting and speaking yourself, they didn’t create, produce, record, and write songs, to be called “low-quality” by some random ass youtuber. Not only did he have the audacity to say that their music is low-quality, but he also never backed up his points, didn’t give any “evidence”, never explained WHY he thinks this way, he didn’t do any of those things. I also wanted to address this point, i saw this in another comment and i needed to say it, people hate on things mostly women are into, like boy bands, because apparently making fun of things women are into is “funny”, he is a great example of that. Plus most people just like hating on popular things cause they think it’s “edgy” and “quirky”

[@StarElementalDancer]

Owow. What the hell. No fair. Has he even read their lyrics and listened to their production and tried to understand their message? No fair. And I ended up actually wanting to learn Korean so I could understand more in depth their wordplay and awesome lyricism. I wonder if BTS will write another diss track. Sigh. The antis keep coming. But we've dealt with this since 2013. We're strong. And so are BTS. BTSXARMY FIGHTING!! But good to know Koreans have nationalistic pride in BTS. That's cool lol. I just have overall love for them as people, artists, and musicians. Woot!

[@51844mj]

StarElementalDancer His channel is Parkgaedae if you want reply back to his videos

[@arianasimpson9848]

I agree

[@jadelam4160]

StarElementalDancer The only thing that’s Low Quality is him. Like no one cares about your opinion :D

[@dominaiscna]

Imma Army but I should just drop this here and please correct me if you think I am wrong. While I agree with you on the production thing, he doesn't need to look at the lyrics. He specifically claimed that they had low quality MUSIC rather than SONGS and hence puts more focus on the actual music rather than the lyrics. So technically he doesn't need to address whatever they have to say.... Unfortunately .. -.-'

[@StarElementalDancer]

@@dominaiscna To me music is an all encompassing term of what an artist who is a musician or lyricist puts out. Songs are a part of the overall music and lyrics play a key part in songs and delivering the message of the music, especially in rap and hip hop. If he specifically said the INSTRUMENTAL or backing track or something, I would still disagree but then if he didn't listen to the lyrics, that would make more sense to me. But he didn't. He said music. As in the overall art in the form of music that BTS puts out. And that I highly disagree with. And I do think not all kpop is like this, art. But I think BTS is. For many reasons. But I can see your point. I guess it would depend how you use the terms "music" or "songs". I'll keep that in mind. Thank you :)

[@lyllaoliveira7983]

Why is an American trying to dictate what Koreans should be proud of? As a Brazilian, if it weren't for BTS, I wouldn't consider learning the language, or even visit South Korea, because I was always told that I should go to Europe, or the USA. This guy is ridiculous.

[@akritisinha]

Yeah ... same here becoz of BTS i currently learning Korean language , want to go korea unlike my other frnds who always dreme of europe or america and i m much into into Korean culture so all of this is becoz of BTS .... so why shouldn't we proud of them...

[@tehnsaiiixoxo]

I'm disappointed. I was expecting Danny to use the bunny ears for clapping when David finished his UN speech. 😂 Jokes aside, David took the words right out of my mouth. BTS are one of the most effective Hangeul ambassadors right now, like it or not, those boys do affect Korean tourism as well. As a foreigner living in Korea, that guy should've researched more about what makes BTS the pride of Korea. BTS haters might celebrate him calling BTS "low-quality" but I hope they're not too thick to understand that BTS is in THAT kpop level wherein them being called low-quality is high-key synonymous to shading the entire kpop genre itself.

[@monimuppet6132]

Like RM stated once; "You hate me but you know my name." He can call BTS low-quality all he wants, but he sure knows who they are. Their influence is real and tangible.

[@nowayneh]

Kpop isn't a genre but I agree with everything else you've said

[@perfectyoongi6639]

@@nowayneh Right! Thank you!

[@fultimekfangurl3979]

When he said "low quality" i thought it was going to be about the production quality. And being a music technology major I was interested to see what he would say since to me it always seemed well put together. But he never explained why he thinks it's "low quality". I mean this is just debating 101, state your opinion and WHY and then you can maybe give an example so your listener has something to compare it to. But skipping the why is what makes him look so juvenile in my eyes. It's like a conversation that would go like this Person#1: i don't like tacos Person#2: well why? Person#1: they're like taxes Person#2: .......... Person#1:Because i don't like them either It just doesn't make any sense

[@bubble2904]

I couldnt put the bad taste in my mouth into words. You explained it very well

[@raeignevindric6574]

True. Now that's what I'm also thinking.

[@elliamaris]

As someone who took a college rhetoric class last year I also agree with your comment👍

[@marchymeow4584]

Agreed

[@marchymeow4584]

Agreed

[@MingukFilms]

This guy OBVIOUSLY wanted attention! You cannot give attention to people like that. Everybody praises BTS. This ain't news anymore! If someone makes a channel right now reacting to bts saying they're great.. this ain't new! That was his way of getting attention by showing his ignorance, because this is obviously someone ignorant if they don't know something FOR REAL and they say this. I do not pay attention to this kind of people and neithe should anyone!

[@cynthiabauer6350]

I totally agree. Didn't even bother watching the vid. He's a jackass looking for attention. Its pathetic honestly. But moving on and watching BTS winning. So its all good.

[@jiminhi4483]

I agree with you. Army should not give this guy any attention at all. His opinions do not matter anyway..

[@usenon8544]

so right . he must at least understand people haave different tastes . his way of doing was kind of insult . i dont even think he is master in music to say bts is sht :/

[@51844mj]

Minguk Films His channel is Parkgaedae if you want reply back to his videos

[@malovestae2658]

BTS is the reason why I have hangul/korean keyboard on my phone.

[@noranems668]

Same

[@mbcdpl]

Do you use it often though?

[@h0e4wendy66]

@@mbcdpl I use it more often than I would if not for BTS

[@mbcdpl]

@@h0e4wendy66 I also got the hangul keyboard cause of kpop but I never use it lol😑

[@megan1362]

Jimmy Xu same lol

[@dieulinhle7275]

Standing ovation for David! 👏👏👏 I do agree that everyone has the right to express their own opinions. However they should be mindfull with the contents and words that they have published. It's common for people to show off what they are proud of. BTS or PSY or Kpop do make Korean proud. So what! They will naturally express it. All you need to do is to direct them to another topic. With the explosion of social media, somehow they forget the simple etiquette that if you don't know how to respect others, don't ever expect it in return. Love the part when David goes BTS is promoting for Hangul 👏👏👏. He 'flips the table well' 😎

[@beatricewongchalermthan565]

I just love that BTS' high-quality production and global efforts also inspired high-quality stans and educators like you guys. Thank you, we stan you two too!

[@TheZeyyyyy]

American arrogance. I don't know what else to say. You guys are being kind.

[@horizonrising3216]

*middle-aged mediocre white guy ignorance Dont group us all together plz 👀

[@Glory.Be.To.Allah_swt]

I wont say it's american arrogance.. that guy is expressing what many people outside Asia are saying about Kpop in general

[@noruuaya3391]

Sorry to say this .. but true American always does. Only think they the best.

[@EM-rm2xh]

As an American, I feel it's my duty to apologize on behalf of Americans. Whenever you see/hear this kind of behavior, just know that there are some of us yelling "I'M SORRY" from somewhere offstage.

[@lenal1523]

Look at how many foreign students come to Korea for a sole purpose of studying Korean. And actually not just in Korea. In so many ways influenced by korean singers, and BTS in the first place.

[@katewu9654]

The only reason why I even know or care about Korea is because of BTS.

[@cherreal1594]

Same , I would never knew a place like KOREA exist if BTS didnt came in my life

[@shotabdi4868]

@@cherreal1594 👁👄👁 geography is a good subject.

[@cherreal1594]

@@shotabdi4868 yes but korea is too small to notice easily and no one really talks about korea other and kpop "in my country" 😂

[@shotabdi4868]

@@cherreal1594 not realy,,, how old are you again?

[@cherreal1594]

@@shotabdi4868 I'm 12 👀

[@DarkoChick17]

Without Hangeul, there is no BTS. Without BTS (and other Kpop groups/movies/etc), there is no expansion of the Korean culture. This guy needs to understand that. BTS is so inherently and unapologetically Korean that they topped charts using songs written in Hangeul, not English. Their performance at the MMAs was so beautiful to watch and this guy calling that low-quality truly hurts my heart.

[@justabi]

Roxana O I mean it is clear this guy has never heard of hallyu.

[@chilled4631]

We have super junior

[@PhuSuHuynh]

Roxana O BTS Performance are so high quality and amazing. How is this dumb american saying shit like that?

[@lyself76]

He has not done thorough research. BTS is more than just a boy group.

[@PhuSuHuynh]

Ly Self Bro he’s american. Ofc he stupid and ignorant and yes I’m also american

[@thv4004]

I get his point but he didn't have to degrade something to lift up the other and I bet the Beatles were considered "shitty" by some😶 but now they are considered legends. I just want to say one mans trash , is another mans treasure. Bts really take pride in their korean culture and they try to promote it as much as they can. It's ironic that to prove his point he used that particular scene in IDOL because it has hanguel all over it.

[@shreya446]

@@ngaorai9872 geez did you even watch this video?

[@raeignevindric6574]

Yeah, Hangul is great but that doesn't mean BTS have a low quality of music. I agree with everything he said about Hangul but not with BTS.

[@marchymeow4584]

Facts

[@sowmiyaganesh8999]

Let koreans decide on what they want to take pride in. He said hangul is amazing and trashed bts when armys celebrated the hangul day by writing bts lyrics on a hashtag. It even made into the newspapers and national news tv. When it comes to bts and armys, almost everyone is ignorant, if u just searched armys and hangul on naver, you will get tat article. Please read it. And its even more funny I came here aftr watching korean president's new year speech mentioning bts😂 A white person telling a country of minorities what to take pride in😤

[@DreamofWinter]

I seriously think BTS would pleased with David's speech, especially the part about BTS promoting Hangul,if they watch this video

[@japsimarmiglani7584]

Why shouldn't Koreans take pride in BTS? They are the ones who made the Korean culture and the country itself popular. K-pop till BTS wasn't enough for every other person in the world to know bout the Korean music. I got into kpop because of BTS ...(I'm basically just into BTS lmao) two years ago. N that was the time I was in India. India , getting over Bollywood and introducing BTS ,thus K-pop on the music channel ? Something that seems next to impossible for me if BTS didn't have good music... These seven humble boys taught me bout the korean culture . Not only did they teach me bout Korea, they cure my anxiety every single day. If it weren't for them, I'd prolly be in the same unstable condition. They've taught me so many things nobody can ever teach me. They are the reason, I wanna learn Korean and come to Korea. If this asshole was a Korean and would prolly not have his whole fuckin body surviving on a single braincell, he'd understand the mindset of Koreans who take pride in BTS. But since he satisfies neither of the above two conditions, that simply defines him as what he is: an ignorant nobody who has poor music taste and is desperate for clout.

[@51844mj]

J M His channel is Parkgaedae he’s in for a real treat 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Kristen70364]

BTS played a large part in my interest in learning Korean, and I know for a fact that many other people would say the same. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Blue-Jaye]

Every country has its own culture. Language is one of the things that is different in each one. Clothing, traditions, and finally, *MUSIC* are just as important in one’s own country. I would not know anything about Korea if I did not know BTS. On another note the guy could of just talked about how Hangul was important without bashing BTS....

[@dietotaku]

Dude is not only insulting BTS, kpop fans and Korean citizens as a whole, he's insulting Korean leadership. They didn't give BTS the Order of Cultural Merit for nothing. BTS received that award _for spreading Korean culture, including hangul._ It's that dude's opinion that BTS is low-quality, which is entirely based in ignorance. BTS is like the Beyonce of Korea. Would he say Beyonce is low-quality just because she's popular? What does he consider to be high-quality music, then? Probably some hipster indie classical shit. He and his friend who hear "boy band" and automatically think "boy band = shitty" never bothered to listen to BTS, or any boy band. And yes, accessibility matters too. You can't just walk up to a foreigner and go "you know what's really great about Korea? Our alphabet." Okay? Why should I care? I can't just start prattling about how awesome the English language is. I have to give you a reason to want to learn about the English language. Pop music in general is that relevance, that accessibility and that bridge between cultures. Like so many other commenters have said, we're learning about Korea and hangul _because of_ BTS. We want to understand their music and their words the way native Koreans do. That guy's just being a total snob.

[@51844mj]

dietotaku His channel is Parkgaedae he’s in for a real treat 😂😂😂😂😂

[@lisax7336]

Y'all better chill 😂 the boys are Armys too and they are reacting on someone who said "bts is low quality music". Also why should they not cLicKbaTE? They are cool yutubers who are trying to educate you about BTS and other Kpop stuff, so be thankful 🤠

[@DKDKTV]

thank you for being so understanding :)

[@lisax7336]

@@DKDKTV thank you for working so hard 💜

[@geezneat]

Him:”You’re proud of a boy group” Me: YES, YES I AM YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?! Also me:Are you proud of these terrible videos you make?

[@Ava-ny5qo]

Panamex Girl La la land that guy is just jealous he’s not a hot korean dude

[@brosplit]

Yes you love the shitty plastic band instead the culture.

[@brosplit]

@i liek b0obs and vagina plastic = massively produced, generic. Not plastic surgery. If they did it, I wouldn't care since that is not my point

[@CC-jv5ns]

@Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon Yo, BTS members wrote lyrics for you: “If what you see on the news is nothing to you If that comment is nothing to you If that hatred is nothing to you You’re not normal, you’re abnormal” -《Am I Wrong》by BTS “‘Oh, you’re Kpop idols so I don’t have to listen to you to know you suck I don’t like your lyrics, it’s obvious You have no power, you’ve probably done dirty deeds Seeing what you’ve done, I know you’re gonna fail’ Thank you so much, because of your inferiority complex I was able to prove myself something I wasn’t able to do back in high school Applause, clap clap, that’s right, keep going We’ll be happy by ourselves Yeah I’m good” -《2!3!》by BTS “Why don’t you change your pattern Of talking trash about others, bae It’s about to get boring, bae I’m not hateful of you anymore I’m not hateful of you anymore, sorry bae... You hate me but you know me You hate me but you know me I like malicious comments better than no comment I don’t know you But you know my name” -《Cypher pt.4》by BTS “And let the haters hate on me, it's their job While you play with the keyboard, I've made my career” -《Born Singer》by BTS “Oh oh my haters, talk more smack about me Keyboard warriors, make some more effort Yes, look down on me like that It’s my hobby to prove you wrong” -《We On》by BTS “For the rest of your life Continue screaming from that position” -《Cypher pt.4》by BTS “Oh! Throw a stone at me if you’ve done as much as I did” -《We Are Bulletproof pt.2》by BTS “So many haters But no problem, I kill They try to chip away my career to bury me But frankly, I dont’ care” -《Cypher pt.3》by BTS “I think I have to listen to criticism more carefully, because no one in the world is perfect. If you believe you’re always right, you ‘d become dogmatic. That’s why we always have to be open to constructive criticism. However, as for those who criticize or mock us, I feel sorry for them, because there are so many good things out there in the world. So many good things to see and hear, life is too short to appreciate those things. But when people behave rude and threaten others, I just… You can think of ‘MIC DROP’ in that case.” - RM

[@Whalien-kl4nc]

@@brosplit ha ha HA you don't even know. They are the OPPOSITE of plastic! In any way.

[@plful]

What bugs me about this guy is that he seems to think that people who are proud of k-pop and BTS are somehow not also proud of other Korean cultural heritages like hangeul. I would bet 10/10 of Korean people who are proud of k-pop and BTS are also very proud of hangeul and etc. It's just that BTS and k-pop are the easiest topics to talk about to foreigners because it's so widely talked about and probably most familiar to a foreigner

[@madamepaka]

bingo! i can't believe ppl really believe that it's one OR the other with Koreans. that's offensive to make it seem like Koreans don't have the brain capacity to appreciate traditions, art, language, pop culture, history, politics, and music all at once. dude is low key a koreaboo for acting like a voice for the Korean ppl. like foh bruh!

[@wahida2582]

Damn right

[@alexisbuchanan6643]

Please watch all of this I might have teared up at the end. Like GUYs! Guys! ARMY this is how an intellectual really goes through and discusses an issue. FOR REAL. A lot of you have become accustomed to being ready to attack someone but what about discussions? Can't we sit together and discuss the subject. Where did the person go wrong? Where can they improve in knowledge? Also please don't misunderstand me using the word intellectual, I am not speaking on how smart anyone is I am just saying these very talented men have grown over the years enough to learn how to speak and work through an issue without letting emotions get in the way. They don't scream their opinions they SPEAK them.

[@aimeesaunders1880]

I wish we could shout it from the roof tops.

[@beta910]

I mean from what I’ve seen so far in the comment section everyone is actually being very civil

[@alexisbuchanan6643]

@@beta910 oh i mean just in general. Not just here or on that Gentleman's post but i mean over all. I see it pretty often still people being aggressive

[@ishita7755]

Listen...because of Kpop and BTS many people know that Korea exist. Some people might find this sad, but because of BTS, people all around the world began to respect korean cuture and people. Stop making hate videos about BTS for some views, Instead if you want people to learn about Hangul then make a video about that.

[@hunnitbaehunnitbae8804]

"Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's low quality." *yyyeeeeEEEEES*

[@shubhamchandiok6700]

I'm 21 year old guy and love BTS

[@DKDKTV]

im a 28 year old guy and i love bts. high five

[@shubhamchandiok6700]

@@DKDKTV hey been your subscribers for a long time now you have the best content love both of you guys mate!!

[@feanese]

btw just wondering. how do you (or any korean person in the comments?) feel when an american guy tries to tell you what you should or shouldn't be proud of? cause I as a foreigner sure as hell wouldn't be comfortable doing that, especially not in that manner

[@everydaydreamer1]

This is exactly what came to my mind lol... Like I was imagining if somebody came to my country and trying do the same shit as he did.. All the people would be like.. "are u an idiot or something?!?!?"... Who he even thinks he is?! Cos in my country we don't have idols or anything but people are really into sportsmen and hockey players who literally represent our country... They work hard they get paid for it and they represent... Literally the same as BTS and like who is that person to come to my country and say don't be proud of hockey players who represent u abroad... Be proud and promote your language... Lol...

[@rvermillion8188]

Agreed, and by what he was saying that he cannot make any red string towards BTS ang Hangul, which he was think highly rather.

[@jiminie_jiminiouspabo7805]

feanese Hi! I’m half Korean and for me that’s so disrespectful when an American guy tell us what we should do because it’s our culture. I was born in Korea and my family moved to the Philippines when I was 11 years old. Philippines is a free country while Korea has a culture because we Koreans do not discriminate Americans for what they are doing, we do not command Americans to do what should they do because for us that’s so disrespectful. Now how can that guy say something like that?! I understand his opinions but can’t he be so rude?... until he mentions BTS🙄😑

[@rinkoxsy1236]

That's exactly what I thought. Why does he feel like he is the representative of EVERY American and say that no American will feel proud of Mc Donald's?? And, who do he thinks he is to tell Koreans what they should be proud of?? If somebody tell me that I should not be proud of the famous singer from my country but other things instead, I will be like "WTF? Who are you to judge what we should be proud of?"

[@JK-cc7te]

As k-army, when i saw that video, all i thought was that he might not have close friend. He is the one who doesn't repect what his ppl are proud of, favor of or their likes. Who would like to be friend with someone who are making fun of, disrespecting what i am proud of?

[@jaysayshiallthetime]

I saw the thumbnail and then my immediate thought was, "Hehe Who's looking to die?"

[@meganlittle8787]

i watched a video essay about why so many people loathed twilight and i think the underline issue is the same here too. it is because it is dominantly a women's thing. (regardless of my opinion of the books in this matter) people hated those books with a passion. an unreasonable amount and it was cool to insult girls who liked it. same here. yes there is male fans too, just like with the books, but it is mostly women thus it is cool to insult bts. if a country has an amazing athlete and they brag about that it is completely fine as sports is mostly a male thing. but boybands are a female thing so it is completely okay to mock them. for example. i went to line up all night for an event in okay where my favorite group was performing at a club. we all waiting the whole night in negative 12c. right next to use as a shoe store that was coming out with a limited edition shoe. so there was a lot of men over there. they also were lining up in the same weather over night. and yet they were mocking us for lining up to see our group. because honestly collecting shoes is mostly a male thing. side note, mcds french fries are fucking bomb, come at me. but i am so tired of people thinking it is cool to mock women for what they like. (man wearing sports jerseys) "oh you are wearing boyband merchandise? hhaha" this doesnt make sense. what is the difference? i hate sports and i am not going to make fun of someone for liking a team. I have my groups merchandise and i wear it. show your fandoms. if you love sports show it. if you love bts show it. if you love mcds show it. dont be ashamed of what you like. dont let other fandoms bring you down either. if you love many groups like me show it too. i wear my groups merchandise and bts merchandise. i dont care. i like both. i can like pasta and pizza.

[@julesstiles4228]

This!!! This!! It's just so true.

[@bubble2904]

I unconsciously tapped "like" so many times but it only gave me one chance

[@xxdanniexxwx1]

Downvoted until I clicked the see more button lol disagree with the twilight part (I hated the books and the films, the writing style just wasn't for me). But the point you make about sports is spot on!

[@meganlittle8787]

@@xxdanniexxwx1 no. I agree. The writing wasnt the best (honestly didntmake it passed the first 10 pages) . But the level of hatred towards the books was greater than it should have been. But thanks for reading my post^^

[@lovelyv2298]

Some people keep pushing and try to prove their point of view of how much BTS is no good.I just say o.k. I get it ,you don’t like them,you don’t have to like them,I’m not trying to make you like them,go like your music and I will like mine,I don’t care for your music but I’m not cutting your music down,you like different things.Lets just like our own favorites.I really don’t get how persistent people are...they keep bringing it up and complaining about how stupid I am and how weird it is that I like a dumb boy band.Not that it bothers me.I don’t get angry.Im so happy that I am ARMY.I don’t get how confused and hostile people are toward me...Maybe they feel how happy we are and because they aren’t,it pisses them off.

[@misticmo2605]

David, i have a question.... Are you related to Kim Namjoon???? 😂

[@DKDKTV]

i wish

[@xiaovenwhore7581]

@@DKDKTV MOODDDD

[@viewer325]

Kim Brothers 😂

[@nikkicb9738]

Haha I love this question. Witty as always David. "KIMs". Bangtan should see this. 😊

[@rositaspigeons1148]

He really got into lol but it was amazing and he took the words out my mouth

[@editae._3424]

“Who is promoting Hangul the most right now?” RM somewhere in this universe: *Mic drop, baam !*

[@denisecee5413]

Word! I agree 100% If you think about it!! BTS’ first hit in the western charts? Boo, it was in Hangul. Y’all. They didn’t give us an all English song to make it digestible. And on some of the largest stages that they knew global fans would be watching? What did they present? Traditional korean dance, korean instruments, korean traditional dress. Just because they are not teaching it in a classroom like setting does not mean they aren’t teaching the world about their culture. If anything BTS is holding the door open for the world to see the beauty of Korea. They’re the a starter course to looking deeper. Especially because they’re songs and ideals are so deeply rooted in the social culture and ideals of Korea. Y’all. They know it too. Pop culture is a still culture and it is informed by government, society and history. It promotes those things whether through denouncing it, criticizing it or offering it on a silver platter. It’s a matter of opening up your own view and getting rid of your own prejudice. Okay. I’m done. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[@kristamottisenkangas9496]

You are so right. You put my thoughts into words perfectly

[@marinalopez7890]

Denise Cee ur mind ughh 🙌🏽 too powerful

[@hanibeeez]

I think Korea can take pride in BTS because they’re korean themselves and are representing Korea when they are overseas winning awards and what not but I also understand what the other guy was trying to say

[@Leobie484]

Yeah I also understand what he tried to say but way of explanation is not right. He could have done better without degrading BTS.

[@clappedcircle5301]

Legit watched an hour long video on how the created euphoria and that shit is so complicated. “Low quality” my butt

[@dekanvo2295]

Omg me tooo!

[@Majeed.]

The Korean wave introduced me to Korean culture, heritage and language ~

[@memyself4414]

This KZbinr definitely does not know BTS. Im a Native american and I love BTS. First it was for their music and dance. Now i love them for the message they send. Ive seen how proud they are of their Korean culture and they love their home. How can this guy be so blind as to not see that BTS celebrate who they are. They wouldn't be Korea's Ambassadors if they didnt.

[@anastasia-fr1gn]

He's probably one of those "pop music is beneath my tastes" snobs lol. Even though I listen to way different music than pop on a regular basis, BTS is my favorite group because of their talent and dedication. This man sounds bitter lol

[@jisuls]

my main problem with that video is the fact some random white american feels the need to tell another group of people what they should and shouldn't put their pride into. if koreans want to be happy and talk about bts to foreigners LET THEM!! why he felt the need to say dont be proud of one thing and put your pride into something else is just.. distasteful. koreans can have pride in bts AND hangul and literally anything else they want without someone of another culture trying to tell them its "sad". you can also tell he knows nothing about bts and probably listened to one song then claimed they were shitty just like every other anti bts fan in the world hes nothing special i just wish he was more educated in what he was talking about.

[@hhaarryy3689]

Why is he telling an entire country what they should and should not be proud of? We already know how awesome our language is, we’re taught that it was created to be extremely organized and easy to pick up on. We’re also proud of despite being attacked and invaded for literally thousands of years, we fought back and survived. We’re also proud of the fact that after being occupied by imperialist Japan for decades and dealing with all the terrible shit done to us while being one of the poorest countries after our war torn country was split in half, our perseverance and extreme work ethic to made us one of the top economies in the entire world. We know what we’re proud of and bts is one of them. Their large fan base promoted our country and showed how great it is. It makes fans want to learn the language to understand what the boys are saying, and encourage them to visit Korea. Yeah we still have a lot of flaws but every country that has ever existed has flaws. Just cause your boybands were horrible doesn’t mean ours are. Bts like all idols trained for years and actually had to have talent to debut. They focus on not only sounding good, but also have top-notch choreos . And even then, BTS is a bit more unique because of their different music style and focus on topics like depression, mental illness, and everyday problems the youth everywhere around the world experience. They don’t put out half-assed songs about love, sex, drugs, and alcohol all the time like a lot of American artists which is why people find them so refreshing here. Their love yourself albums spread positive messages, and these messages were so impactful that they were invited to speak at the United Nations. America also has the biggest music industry, and even though bts is a group that is from an entirely different country and doesn’t put out full English songs as title tracks or in their album, they’re able to beat huge names like Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande. THATS why we’re proud of them ya dumb hoe. The doors that way

[@anoushkaa.7038]

Haary A round of Applause for this comment. Honestly so true. I'm an Indian Army and the reason I now know how to read, write, even speak basic korean is BTS. A culture is not just made by a Language, it's made by it's people, how they think, how they live. If Bts or any other Kpop group encouraged even a little curiosity in the mind of a foreigner to delve deep into their culture, to learn Language, heck to boast about another culture in front of other people; Then YES you should take pride in them. These people are your culture, they are representatives of your culture and If you don't take pride in them, no one will.

[@samirah278]

Well. McDonalds is delicious. And so is BTS. Whole meals

[@hskIuvbot]

Samirah Islam I had a whole McChicken meal today. No regrets.

[@AnnaHeey]

To add to the UN Speech: What defines good quality music? I have tried to convince huge music lovers to actually define why the don't like bts, and it all comes down to taste. In my brothers words: 'The instrumentals are good, but sometimes too synthetic. The vocals are not bad, but they sound different from what I like.'

[@lovelyv2298]

Always watchin' o_o Wow at least you are getting respectful answers.I get racists and homophobic remarks from my family...They are Korean.They sing in Korean.They look soft.What if they are gay?Why are they dancing?Theres to many of them.Are they wearing makeup?Their voices are too high.I can’t tell them apart.Are they teenagers? Which tells me that they aren’t even giving the actual music a chance...if possible,try to show your family their song lyrics first...hook them with intellect,then maybe the sound of Spring Day,Butterfly,Just one day.💜

[@raeignevindric6574]

Nice

[@zoromarimo-dn5ql]

@@lovelyv2298 tell me about it... I normally don't like to show my family any of BTS or KPOP in general music videos or music... But once u showed my mom BTS Spring Day, and I even put on lyrics so she could understand... As the video started... JIMIN appeared on the screen and she was like, "why is there a girl in here?" I told her it was not a girl and asked her why she felt like that... She said, "he looks feminine and like a little kid...." I also gave a few songs of BTS for my friend to listen because she was curious on what I listened to... And wanted to know how what it was like.... After a few days I asked her how it was.... She listened to Fake Love... And she said that she wasn't so into the music but the sets were amazing 😂😂 Well... Be happy with you have I guess?

[@AnnaHeey]

@@DarkAngel2512 wow you sound like a 12 year old trying to be an adult. You can dislike it sure, but whether something is child-like is not solely for you to decide

[@mybankbalanceis0]

@@AnnaHeey lmao

[@nicholerulloda8187]

The reason i started to love korea, the culture and kpop artist is all because of BTS. And what i love the most of BTS is the THE HIGH QUALITY of lyrics , melodies, CONCEPT(literally the CONCEPT). Motivating, inspiring and advocacy. Their works and performance reflects to passion i see in their eyes.

[@AlyssaDiCesare]

It will always be funny hearing an American talk about another culture and country having too much pride.

[@gomorrah2938]

So hes telling people to be proud of hangul but dismisses someone as low quality. Someone who is korean, speaks korean and definitely writes hangul.. Now im confused.

[@rvermillion8188]

Nem S. Mee too! I mean, from birth tho..he is an alien living in an alien country.

[@gomorrah2938]

R Vermillion Not to mention BTS is doing it in a world stage. Just because one is morenimportant than the other, doesnt mean, that other is useless. Im a filipino and im proud of Catriona Gray, who just won Miss Universe. Filipinos almost glorify her. So should I just dispose of the fact that she won and represented philippines and filipino culture because, she is not the culture itself? This man gotta get his mind straight.

[@rvermillion8188]

Nem S. Congratulation for having Miss Universe! I mean, Bts not only bring pride to Korea, but to Asia in general. Steve Aoki glorified this by cas all Asian on his Waste On Me MV. I think that guy clearly doesn't know Bts. Clearly.

[@gomorrah2938]

R Vermillion I know right. Anyway, BigHit's new group about to come by so im excited.. Let us not put anymore attention to this guy. Its his opinion anyway. :D

[@rvermillion8188]

Nem S. I juts woke up and got so many notif about txt. Wow, can't believe with the exitement. I hope they do well, so many promising rookies will debut this year too.

[@yourneighbor7260]

Right!! When that dude said "BTS is low quality" i was already thinking, "he gonna be making some dumbass point." and when he got to the part of Hangul being one of the most pride-worthy thing of Koreans, i had to pause to rant. 😂 Because even though that is true (the facts that he spits about Hangul) the reality is Hangul can't talk to me. When I see Korean scripts, it doesn't interest me. Because there is nothing relevant i can get from it. And being a manga+anime otaku, im more into Japanese scripts because i get something from it, and that is, reading freshly released, raw manga. No need to wait for translations. So Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji, and the language itself, is more desirable for me. BUT BTS came and i love them. So NOW Hangul became something relevant. Korean became something interesting. Because now, there is something from Korea that i greatly enjoy i wouldn't want to wait for translations to come! I was so ready to go to that person's video and give him my opinion, but i need to finish this one first and YES to what David said. Now i don't feel like going to that vid. I bet people are already in there saying about the same thing as me. That guy is now probably eating his own "low quality" argument.

[@chidoricoffee6197]

He is coming from a place of privilege. To speak down on the accomplishments that they are achieving is belittling the hardwork that they have put in to it. Yes, koreans should totally be proud of what they are doing. They are having a mass positive influence on the world while still maintaining true to themselves and their culture. Their words, even in a different language, are resonating with people. It shows that language and culture doesn't have to have a boundry. POC are doing things that have never been done before. Why wouldn't you want to be proud of that? When Blackpanther was breaking box office numbers, black people were super proud and excited for that. These are roads and grounds that Koreans haven't walked before and BTS is paving that way for other fellow Koreans to come in. I really just cant comprehend why he felt it was necessary for him to make this video explaining his opinion that nobody asked for. Let BTS do this so we can see these other hardworking Idols be recognized across the globe.

[@imalexaliaandkpopsnatchedm7948]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 PREACH SIS

[@bingewatchingintesifies809]

Stephanie Nelson privilege??Calm down he us just an ass.

[@gia6721]

Privilege? My dad is half black and thinks bts music is shitty. Why do you have to make this about POC? I say in 2019 it’s time to stop playing the victim already

[@chidoricoffee6197]

@@gia6721 Nobody is playing victim. Tf? That's fine that your dad thinks their music is shitty. Hell, it's fine that this dude thinks their music is shitty but it isn't about that. He can't see that them breaking records and winning all these awards is a good thing because it's nothing new to him. Meaning, he has seen singers, dancers, and other musical acts, that are white, do this time and time again. Someone that looks similar to him. Somone that speaks the same language and sounds the same as him. Somone that could represent him. This is a PRIVILEGE that he has experienced all his life. He is coming from a place of PRIVILEGE to not acknowledged the reasons why Koreans are and should be proud of them. The representation for Koreans is a wonderful. It's not his place, as a white american, to come in and tell them what they should and shouldnt be proud of. If you think their music is shitty, fine. So be it. But you cant insert yourself in to this when you arent even Korean. That's like you showing somebody an art project that you worked extremely hard on, won your first art award ever for it and were super proud of it. Then a random person comes along and says, "No, no, no. You shouldn't be proud of this. It's a mediocre project at best. You should be proud of something else." How would you feel?

[@chidoricoffee6197]

@@bingewatchingintesifies809 I said what I said.

[@misticmo2605]

why did i cry during davids speech....... thank you so much💜

[@junko121511]

MisticMO Some💜

[@DKDKTV]

aww its not worth any crying lol

[@misticmo2605]

DKDKTV trust me it is, especially if you have loved and supported them since debut and seen all the unnecessary criticism they get. Sorry for being emo😂

[@shionlovesjungoo162]

at my school (australia) there's a girl who just came from korea. she's not into kpop but the first friend group she joined was a group that was into kpop, because she said it gave her a sort of connection because of her culture. so i kinda understand the whole "do you know kpop" approach.

[@becomingwoman7257]

RE: "QUALITY": BTS has exceptional lyrics. Ironically. ;m confident this guy hasn't learned Korean (via Hangul) enough to know and judge (captions!). Most mv have social critique, meaning, symbolism, word play, poetry ("Daeng" "Dionysus". "Mikrocosmos", "On"). The complicated choreography and demanding dance ("Dope","DNA", "Fire"), and, extraordinarily aesthetic, cinematography ("Fake love", Blood,sweat.." "Idol") are superb. Again, I strongly suspect he hasn't watched informed by professional standards to distinguish "low" from "high" quality .I don't know enough about singing to comment [*ahem*] This guy could be legit IF he learns the language or at least learns through proxy (captions!) and seriously watches the dance and cinematography objectively. I see the merit of his overall argument about misdirected pride and acknowledge what he says about Hangul as extremely flattering. I have faith that his intentions are to be engaged and supportive. Like him I agree a lot of KPop, just like any national pop, is mindless and formulaic as it is typically enslaved by commercial industry. But BTS has crossed the boundary between idol and artist.This should not be neglected.The KZbinr who explicates songs on this channel does a fantastic job.To enhance his own work this guy should checkout his videos. Their personalities seem to jibe well. (This is my opinion as a doctor of Cultural studies and Literature who has published writings and delivered professional presentations.) TO "THIS GUY": :I HOPE AFTER READING THIS POST YOU KNOW I'M NOT WRITING A HATE RANT OR TIRADE. I DON'T DISLIKE YOU. I DON;T LOOK DOWN ON YOU. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CONTINUED TO DO YOUR VIDEOS FAIRLY AND INFORMED. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT,

[@mekanavyasri9071]

Let's meet at Grammy U low quality music guy

[@bini5966]

I don't think that will ever happen Grammy don't invite low quality guys 🙄😂

[@fuckmylungs3925]

😂😂😂

[@ela.manila]

David!!!!!!! Super love your speech here!!!!!!! 🥺 Watched your other vlogs too, not just this, and I think your mind is just the best!!!!!!! More power to DKDKTV ✨

[@LouisJKMiranda]

But the beatles also a boygroup and look at them now....

[@tsukihimejey8830]

My husband gives me this look when I call The Beatles a "boyband", but he knows it can't be refuted.

[@LouisJKMiranda]

Thank you for the like guys! I just hate that they portray us as crazy teenaagers. No. I believed that 40% of us is a 20-30ish peoples that pursue their dream and come across comforting and relatable lyrics from BTS along the way. And no. Bts is not just a boyband. They have messages and comforting story that they tells.

[@EM-rm2xh]

tl;dr - White, middle-aged man listens to a few title tracks and deems it neccessary to label internationally renowned band that is doing more to spread Hangul than any other person in Korea as "fast food." [Long rant to follow] The thing is, this guy says this without even listening to their music. I find most often that people who make such misinformed comments have only heard a handful of their title tracks AT MOST. Also, my own quick rant: any band with a predominantly female fanbase (ie "the boyband") is often automatically dismissed by people like him as being "not about the music" and "low quality." This is something he believes because of how corporations/media in the west have shaped his biased viewpoint as well as a little bit of sexism. Afterall, how could women like an artist for their music and not their looks? I know no one will probably read this, but I'll link a really good op-ed piece called "The Social Implications of Dismissing Boy Bands." medium.com/@heidisamiam/the-social-implications-of-dismissing-boy-bands-d7d3a098b87e A snippet: "The fact that there’s a stigma attached to the music or performance style of boy bands is snobbery, plain and simple, and music snobbery sometimes seems even more pointless than other forms of snobbery. I’ve had to unlearn my own music snobbery, and I’m a better person for it." I really should do a scholarly article about how BTS has the stigma of both the boyband and of being a male of East Asian descent in western media (and yet is STILL killing it). As a late millenial who has had to deal with people like him for much too long, it's hopeful to see the coming younger generation be more open minded to a wider variety of music and musician. And then I really can't add anything to the guy saying BTS/Kpop has music "like McDonalds" because David said everything I wanted to rant about.

[@batfiend]

Thank you for this comment. I think it speaks volumes when something like boybands are dismissed because their fanbase is 'crazy fangirls' and sports are viewed as a very serious form of entertainment, when sport fans are just as passionate and crazy but they so happen so be mostly male. It's dismissive and sexist. He deleted the video, so he doesn't even have the guts to stand behind his own opinions.

[@heroinasytumbas3346]

Perfect comment. This man fails to analyze BTS and their fans in the proper cultural context. He knows nothing about the impact BTS' music had over millions of people because he assumes that their fans are not capable of looking past a colorful music video, when in reality he is the one who can't see beyond the surface. What about the songs BTS wrote to honor their hometowns and dialects? What about how they incorporate traditional instruments and clothes? What about when bts sang about the issues young koreans face? What about how they entered the american market with music in KOREAN? Sure, BTS is by no means everything Korea has to offer. But for their international fans, they introduced a little bit of their culture and made us want more. Thanks to BTS, people are learning about korean traditions and culture, they're learning the language and some are even visiting the country. They have a huge platform and they use it to promote korean culture all the time. So, TLDR: This man just made a fool of himself.

[@nolongerhuman7703]

Tae, Ducks and Danny at 5:41 is the cutest thing ever

[@MaryaMars681]

So if he is trying to "promote" hangul.. he must know that kpop one of the very big reasons that people wants to study korean and learn the korean culture... for me i was interested in eastern cultures every since when i was a kid but i didn't pay much attention to korean culture back then (unfortunatly 😅) but after i knew BTS i became really interested in the culture and the language 💜

[@dietotaku]

SO MUCH of international culture is rooted in pop culture. I spent my 20s learning Japanese. Why? Because of anime. Now I'm learning Korean. Why? Because of kpop. He can't honestly expect the majority of foreigners to care about learning Korean apropos of nothing.

[@jivanthika.n]

"Have to give credit to this guy." Bunny danny: "he has balls?" 😂

[@beenwandering]

Wow..."You're proud of a boy group? That's your pride?" Everyone and Danny and David have already ripped this apart for good reason but let me just throw in an additional SO WHAT? He's telling Korean nationals what they should be allowed to care about? Regulating what anyone is allowed to care about and enjoy? Who cares if someone's proud of a boy group, who cares if someone's proud of McDonald's. If I have a friend who comes in last place in every competition they enter because they're genuinely bad at the subject I can still be proud of them because that's my right and they're trying, doing something, and putting themselves out there. Dude needs to lighten up for real.

[@EM-rm2xh]

Preach. And what is it about a "boyband" that automatically makes their music "low quality." This is such BS, but it stems from how media has talked about and shaped people's perspectives. Below is a really good op-ed I read some time ago that is apropos in this situation. "The Social Implications of Dismissing Boy Bands." medium.com/@heidisamiam/the-social-implications-of-dismissing-boy-bands-d7d3a098b87e A snippet: "The fact that there’s a stigma attached to the music or performance style of boy bands is snobbery, plain and simple, and music snobbery sometimes seems even more pointless than other forms of snobbery. I’ve had to unlearn my own music snobbery, and I’m a better person for it."

[@marajoya8724]

The yt-Ness in him is showing. Lecturing another culture about what they should be proud of. As if he knows better than people of their own culture. Let them decide.

[@mimidechavez2868]

Oopppsiieeee!!!?!?!?! I speak Ilonggo, bisaya, tagalog, english... and loves Korean songs...as well as French songs, latino songs, etc. Music is fluid... it crosses barriers. You can't stop it. You can't stop BTS. Your opinion and reactions do not matter.

[@obsidian1853]

SAME.

[@jeongguk1194]

Tuodd ilonggo Ka gli? Ako mn PROUD!!!!! 💜💜

[@kazekeeyes182]

Omg nakakita na ako ilonggo sa comment section😁😂

[@youtubeisdrunkagain3117]

Kabalo man ko mag ilonggo!😄💜

[@mimidechavez2868]

Hahahahahaaaa!!! Ilonggo power!!!

[@faith6833]

This is why we love you, David. Your speech at the end, even after a year, filled me with Pride for BTS. 💗

[@hanaavdicc]

one person commented that he or she was clapping for 30secs straight after david said "who is promoting hangul the most right now?" sis,,,,, this was premiered six hours ago and i just finished clapping. joke on the side, this is A GREAT VIDEO. i support xoxo

[@laelairis2608]

I feel like what he doesn’t seem to understand is that a non white, non American group who’s music isn’t even actually in English getting so worldwide famous IS something to be proud of. As much as things are getting better in this generation there is still A LOT of discrimination and racism and xenophobia within the entertainment industry, bts IS something to be proud of. I agree that there’s lots of other things to be proud of about Korea but why doesn’t he stay in his lane and not tell other people what to be proud of, if they feel proud about something within their culture and country then they can be, he can’t speak for all foreigners and he can’t speak for korean people either.

[@hialyssah]

hmm, i do think that it's really because of his western perspective on boy bands that made him think this way. but BTS does everything so much better and more hardcore and are more willing to step outside of what is the normal expectations of a boy group.

[@laelairis2608]

hialyssah I agree, he seems to think all boy bands are the same just because of his western perspective on them. Kpop groups are very different. The time they put in, the way the perform, their work ethic, it’s all very different and a lot more intense and advanced

[@nishi8870]

Lesson for the day " you should be very careful with words, words are like sword... And if you don't like anything it doesn't mean that you can hate it socially and spread hate about it ....

[@k.s.r8094]

A lil bit late... i don’t know anything about korea except plastic surgery and Gangnam Style until i watch BTS’s Dance Practice on youtube and start to learn more about them. their performance, their music and lyrics captivated me in every way even before i know all of the members face and name. and BTS are the one who makes me learn more about korean culture, i start watch Kdrama, reality show, other kpop group, eat korean cruisine... learning one or two korean word / phrase. they (BTS) are the best ambassadors of Korean culture included Hangul.

[@paris2______]

I understand both arguments....just his phrasing is a no-no for me lol

[@DKDKTV]

exactly.

[@paris2______]

@@DKDKTV as always, thank you both for your thoughts... until next time, I suppose 🤗

[@cooty9773]

Okay but when was the last time this man brushed his teeth? Like honestly!!!!

[@withasante]

This is so true BTS does promote Hangul cause people I know and myself want to learn Korean because of watching kpop, kdramas and etc

[@hwaroahn1056]

I think you are being toooo much careful with your words and lenient with your judgments. He called the group as "shitty", that means he degraded BTS and undermined their works. He did not just lay out a context where the guys are underrsated. And of course he is wrong on many things. You should atleast point that out.

[@piccololatte2026]

Yes !! Ughh he didnt have to downgraded anyone or anybody to convey his actual message tho .

[@majofigueroapjm]

I was really the whole video like "OK boomer"

[@nsh6993]

Wow okay. I get that this guy is trying to tell us that there is more than just "BTS" when it comes to talking about SK. I mean obviously but then again he also need to bear in mind that not a lot of people will get interested in a certain culture out of nowhere. There must be some kind of an attraction or pull factors that helps people to be more aware of the culture and to actually be interested in it. And for me BTS is a major factor for that. My advice for this guy is to not jump into conclusion. Do your research more. You're basically talking shit about a country's pride that is BTS. How would you feel if someone did this to your country? Clearly you have no respect for the country and culture yet you want to promote their culture?? The hypocrisy. Also I've been into K-pop and kdrama since 2009 but trust me when I said BTS got me extremely interested in SK's culture since 2017. Fast forward to now, I'm am currently learning Korean language at intermediate level. Now it's more than just because of BTS, it's because I'm genuinely fascinated by the culture.

[@x.astar.x]

You spelt "bare" wrong....

[@x.astar.x]

And there u go talking about BEARS again