T1 MkLeo vs TSM Tweek - Singles Bracket Ultimate: Grand Finals - Riptide | Byleth vs Diddy, Sephi

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T1 MkLeo (Byleth) vs TSM Tweek (Diddy, Sephi) - Singles Bracket Ultimate Grand Finals - Riptide 2021
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@darioh9661
@darioh9661 3 жыл бұрын
I’m never doubting Leo’s Byleth again after today god damn
@stomorevs
@stomorevs 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, me either. I think we should just trust Leo’s choices from now on. If he thinks they’re good enough to use in tournaments, who are we to question? This man knows the game better than any of us!!
@KurtX16
@KurtX16 3 жыл бұрын
@@stomorevs I just wished Leo played banjo and kaazoie or Captain Falcon xD
@batmanandrobin250
@batmanandrobin250 3 жыл бұрын
@@KurtX16 the world isn’t ready for a Leo falcon arc
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
@@KurtX16 leo enjoys disjoints so probably not and maybe that is the reason he does not play joker as much as before.
@alitalhouni2843
@alitalhouni2843 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine? I’d have to wash my hands between wash set I watch.
@kciref6016
@kciref6016 3 жыл бұрын
I hope Tweek and Leo continue fighting forever. These sets are just something else, man… it’s like Coney says at the end, no one stands at their level. Every stock taken is so hype and amazing! The movement, the moves, the landings, the recoveries, it’s so fast paced and out of this world! This is Ultimate at its best! And I want it to keep on growing, with Tweek finding new ways to beat Leo and Leo finding new ways to beat Tweek
@eddiealva9751
@eddiealva9751 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. This Tweek is so much different than before, except he went back to his old ways of giving up almost. Sucks he didn’t stick with Diddy.
@mikeduff3431
@mikeduff3431 3 жыл бұрын
Riddles has a better chance of beating leos bylelth in actual set then tweek showed at this point.I know tweek done it at summit which was quite the specticle.
@TheRiquelmeONE
@TheRiquelmeONE 3 жыл бұрын
they are for sure the current two gods of ultimate, will take some time until we have 5 like melee had for a long time. Mb i watch too much anime...
@latheredtrillionaire5701
@latheredtrillionaire5701 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeduff3431 He 3-0'ed Leo twice at Summit. Calm down.
@j.williams5876
@j.williams5876 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't Samsora and Nairo on their level?
@t1darluy55
@t1darluy55 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when everyone says that Leo was carried by Joker. Now that he won with Byleth... I wonder what haters gonna say. I'm so happy with this result!
@danielwilliams693
@danielwilliams693 3 жыл бұрын
they're gonna say byleth is op haha
@joseluistrejo1859
@joseluistrejo1859 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why he dropped Joker...
@juicemanvon9859
@juicemanvon9859 3 жыл бұрын
@@joseluistrejo1859 He stopped using Joker when things switched to mostly Wi-Fi.
@Enidx10
@Enidx10 3 жыл бұрын
@@joseluistrejo1859 because even my grandma knows how to f-air 1, drag down, d-smash. Joker is fucking stale, lame to watch because we’ve seen it a million times by everyone, including Leo.
@shionwandering
@shionwandering 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the character who carries the player, its the player who carries the character.
@stomorevs
@stomorevs 3 жыл бұрын
Until someone can match Leo’s character movement fundamentals and Leo’s mental fortitude, he’ll never be topped. I doubt Leo will fizzle out. I see him quitting this game on top.
@mrjollyguy25
@mrjollyguy25 3 жыл бұрын
I do think Tweek might have a very slight edge on raw fundamentals as well as the platform game, but Leo just runs circles around him in mental fortitude and adaptation and conditioning. This is why Leo is the king.
@TheXxKingSlayrxX
@TheXxKingSlayrxX 3 жыл бұрын
69th like 😩
@stomorevs
@stomorevs 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrjollyguy25 maybe so, but it’ll take both if anyone wants to replace him as the “undisputed worlds best”. Tweek’s character movement certainly looks impressive, but is it as effective as Leo’s? I don’t think so. I think the reason Leo can make Byleth (a mid tier character at best) work when nobody else can, is bc he understands better than anyone how to position his own character to avoid taking damage, but at the same time smother his opponent with perfectly spaced attacks. Tweek had both at Summit-good movement and strong mind-but not at Riptide.
@Crxwess
@Crxwess 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrjollyguy25 do you mean advanced advantage state?
@MrAxl88888888
@MrAxl88888888 3 жыл бұрын
Cmon man, last time in Summit leo got destroyed by tweek, this time leo struggled at the beggining but end up destroying him. Maybe next time will be for tweek, who knows man. And we don't have to forget about Marss, who won the last major pre-covid against leo and maybe just needs some time to get at his peak level. I too think that Leo maybe is a step ahead, but it has only been 2 tournments, maybe we'll have to wait to state anything. Oh and what leo is doing with a character that everybody thinks is mid is amaizing, but tweak kinda did the same with Diddy. Now everybody puts him on high or even top, but not a long time ago everybody said he was mid, high at his bests.
@SplashEazy
@SplashEazy 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when Tweek was playing Pokemon Trainer and people were like "He's finally found his character" and now with the Diddy they were like "He's finally found his character" Samsora beat Leo at a major and they said "Samsora has figured it out we have a new number 1." Marss beat Leo at a major and they said "Marss has figured it out we have a new number 1" Nairo, Tweek, Samsora, Marss. Even people who have close sets against him like Zachray. The names change around but one constant remains. Leo.
@Yokai_Yuri
@Yokai_Yuri 3 жыл бұрын
It is called denial. If you are consistently the top 1# player for 95% of the times you have competed, people are gonna say delusional comments about you losing to another guy. Statements such as the ones you mentioned. In this culture and age you can be a winner for 99.99% of the time but people will remember you for that 1 loss you had while invalidating most of your achievements.
@hi3209YT
@hi3209YT 3 жыл бұрын
Also Nairo did beat Leo at Mainstage during that but yeah Leo is somethin else
@willycheez7218
@willycheez7218 3 жыл бұрын
Some of these just never happened. Nobody said Marss was the best after one win
@calebw8189
@calebw8189 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with you, but it's worth pointing out that Tweek actually 6-0'd Mkleo at summit. I definitely wasn't thinking that Tweek is 100% the best player in the game, but I was worried.
@SplashEazy
@SplashEazy 3 жыл бұрын
​@@calebw8189 yeah I think the main thing is Leo figured out how to use the banana to his advantage. He took away Diddy's strength. I can't believe though that in this set it was Tweek that switched characters and not Leo. Crazy.
@FDMD_
@FDMD_ 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Leo to win Evo GFs with Little Mac and make him high tier
@kciref6016
@kciref6016 3 жыл бұрын
Little Mac doesn’t have a sword
@samloyd9287
@samloyd9287 3 жыл бұрын
@@kciref6016 But what if he did?
@doomsdaygaming9928
@doomsdaygaming9928 3 жыл бұрын
@@samloyd9287 Boss music starts playing and never turns off
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Little mac is unsalvageable. That character design is trash.
@user-zy2ts8kn7c
@user-zy2ts8kn7c 3 жыл бұрын
@@showmeyourmoves8551 You’re a great dude, anyone who thinks mac is good character design deserves a conversion camp.
@theimpersonator7086
@theimpersonator7086 3 жыл бұрын
It really wouldn't be a Smash Ultimate tournament without Leo reverse 3-0ing Tweek and a Leo vs Tweek GFs. Seriously, this rivarly is looking a lot like the most famous rivalry from Smash 4, with Tweek even playing Diddy Kong as well. We really need Civil War 2
@rarumanH
@rarumanH 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the final DLC character will spice things up even more and one of them will main it...
@TheDakotaFrazier
@TheDakotaFrazier 3 жыл бұрын
@@rarumanH I will main it and I will become the best little boi
@rarumanH
@rarumanH 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDakotaFrazier I hope you are Mexican and 7 years old or I can't believe you.
@joshuabastien8909
@joshuabastien8909 3 жыл бұрын
All do they suck as people, and there accomplishments don’t erase there wrongs, but zero vs ally will always be top rivalry.
@Abbaschand
@Abbaschand 3 жыл бұрын
If I remembered, 2GG was supposed to have an Infinity War-themed tournament, but they didn't do it do to the fear of getting C&D'd by Marvel.
@agquagwisvquwgavwj
@agquagwisvquwgavwj 3 жыл бұрын
You already know Leo was practicing day and night for Tweeks Diddy, a few of his friends started pocketing it and it paid off in a big way for him. I’m a tweek fan but I can’t shake my head at hard work.
@Obstakulizer
@Obstakulizer 3 жыл бұрын
He had to practice a lot vs Diddy because Tweek is doing an amazing job. I really hate that people only pay attention to one side of the story. I'm proud for Leo and I really love watching him winning but Tweek's changed a lot, and not only his play style. They are growing. This rivalry is getting bigger and for the best. GG's for both players!
@BoBoMuNcHcRunCH
@BoBoMuNcHcRunCH 3 жыл бұрын
@trump2024 H yeah you don’t get it
@YGK-tu8cy
@YGK-tu8cy 3 жыл бұрын
@trump2024 H Your username is already a big indication that any interaction with you would be completely unproductive.
@Obstakulizer
@Obstakulizer 3 жыл бұрын
@trump2024 H your user name's trump2024 lmao I cannot take you seriously lol get lost
@BoBoMuNcHcRunCH
@BoBoMuNcHcRunCH 3 жыл бұрын
@trump2024 H I mean why are you even here?
@jamesbell1186
@jamesbell1186 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that people consider Byleth mid tier and Leo was able to win the first offline major running them shows not only how amazing Leo is, but also how many characters have so much untapped potential, simply because they need the right player to use them.
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 3 жыл бұрын
first one in NA if you don't count Summit, but Japan had at least one b4 even that
@fuhbox
@fuhbox 3 жыл бұрын
So… Byleth is Mid tier, But Leo Byleth is top tier
@calebw8189
@calebw8189 3 жыл бұрын
Remember all the naysayers that said MKLeo's Byleth was going to be useless and quickly discarded offline? Well there you go.
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Byleth actually wins a major than most characters considered top tier by the community. 💀
@voodooedits785
@voodooedits785 3 жыл бұрын
Super major actually and so as Pac-Man with Temple
@thinkreset8612
@thinkreset8612 3 жыл бұрын
@@showmeyourmoves8551 Before Leo used Byleth - Byleth is trash, after Leo learns Byleth - Byleth OP!!!
@9tailjeza
@9tailjeza 3 жыл бұрын
@@thinkreset8612 i haven’t heard a single person say byleth op, even though leo is winning with him
@mathunit1
@mathunit1 3 жыл бұрын
@@9tailjeza Then you've never been on Twitter. :P
@jorgetabla2317
@jorgetabla2317 3 жыл бұрын
Tweek is amazingly good, but Leo is just something else. GOAT
@leog223
@leog223 3 жыл бұрын
As leo said : Of course he's pretty good but I'm the GOAT
@stotab8700
@stotab8700 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that Tweek managed to play so patiently in the face of so much pressure just goes to show how much his mentality has improved over the break. And the fact that both of these players have been in grands in the last two big offline tournaments just shows how far a good mentality can take you. Super grateful to be alive to witness such insanely high caliber play
@ElChicoBush
@ElChicoBush 3 жыл бұрын
20:16 Leo looking proudly at his Byleth win screen.
@ExceedRed
@ExceedRed 3 жыл бұрын
Summit: Tweek made Leo switch off Byleth to Pyra/Mythra and proceeded to absolutely wash him Riptide: Leo made Tweek switch off Diddy to a rusty Sephiroth and washed him I think these 2 are destined to only stay one character in these sets, any character switch is just giving away a game
@dequanndillard7932
@dequanndillard7932 3 жыл бұрын
@@inarencommander4663 Leo joker super rusty currently. He hasn't played the character in like all pandemic. If there was a time tweek could beat his joker it would be now.
@carterwray3443
@carterwray3443 3 жыл бұрын
@@inarencommander4663 Bruh, even Leo didn't want to go Joker against Diddy at Summit because Diddy beats joker MU. True that Tweek couldn't close out against Joker, but new character, new MU.
@justice8718
@justice8718 3 жыл бұрын
Leo was afraid of Diddy because he legitimately didn’t know the match up against a heavily optimized one.
@Panda__Man
@Panda__Man 3 жыл бұрын
Dude he 3 stock’d tweek twice in two entirely different games. So awkward
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Leo is still miles better than tweek imo.
@Bones_
@Bones_ 3 жыл бұрын
I think Byleth is probably still not high tier, but the way Leo plays him with his own high level of experience and his great defensive parries really allows him to elevate the character. Byleth can get punished hard but Leo's defensive abilities are just that good to help him avoid that, and then from there his opponents have to deal with a hard to hit/kill Byleth that hits like a truck. Then add on Leo's great presence of mind and quick thinking and you've got the #1 player. A great example of how tier lists are very, very generalized, and don't determine results as a player can really elevate a character based on the combination of their skillset and the character's.
@jonathanlgill
@jonathanlgill 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I've seen any player who is as 'optimal' in his play while also being 'flashy'. Leo's like the perfect mixture of aggression and insane defense.
@ankydarkness
@ankydarkness 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@LeafellVideos
@LeafellVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, I'm also inclined to think that Byleth is a high mid tier, but according to Leo himself, he plays Byleth because of a mixture of MU inexperience and he truly does believe the character is high tier.
@kylewood4488-b9r
@kylewood4488-b9r 3 жыл бұрын
Lets just all agree that if Byleth had the speed of someone like Roy, Fox or Mythra than everyone would probably consider him/her top tier because besides the lack of speed this character basically have many usable tools. The sword is great for out of shield options, the Axe is deadly on shields and spikes, the lance is a great way to catch someone off guard and the bow snipes far as well as great for a neutral air option. I play this character myself despite not being very good at the game but even I can tell that this character has tons of potential. Their up B is probably my favorite Up B in the game as its use for spikes and combos is incomparable.
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Byleth is a high tier like how anyone can deny that? Mid tier character should not be able to perform such things versus the second best ultimate player with an unfavorable matchup. Weve seen slow characters in smash as a threat before so I dont know how being slow character ultimately disqualifies byleth as better than mid tier.
@Fujinondesu
@Fujinondesu 3 жыл бұрын
"Allow me to demonstrate" - MKleo @ Riptide 2021
@f.gutierrez6590
@f.gutierrez6590 3 жыл бұрын
he was the professor all along (':
@jacko9214
@jacko9214 3 жыл бұрын
That was clever
@imaksta
@imaksta 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Tweek changed his tag to "Version 2", like he evolved
@JoelGarcia-lu3tw
@JoelGarcia-lu3tw 3 жыл бұрын
Character development
@fortressofsolitude2960
@fortressofsolitude2960 3 жыл бұрын
Guys, that GAME 4 LEO shit is real... Byleth is widely considered MID TIER by most top players (some even say he's LOW) and in fact according to Tweek himself: Diddy beats Byleth... So, I can't wait for people to start saying he's broken. Anyway, here are some data from Leo vs Tweek: -Leo has 3 stoked Tweek 5 times in the Ultimate era and has gotten 6 reverse 3-0 against him. -With this tournament Tweek set a record of 8 consecutive games won against Leo (6 from Summit and 2 from Riptide), plus Leo has never made a 6-0 to Tweek (not the same thing as a reverse 6 -0). It's as if they both bring out the best in each other when they face off.
@Gindaman999
@Gindaman999 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Joker ain’t broken until he started playing it. It’s about the meta (early kill meta now). At this time, Byleth is definitely top tier.
@HAGENTYRANNY
@HAGENTYRANNY 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gindaman999 A character can’t be top tier with just a player doing good, stop this, Leo is the top tier not Byleth.
@fatlord12
@fatlord12 3 жыл бұрын
@@HAGENTYRANNY Amen, brother.
@jonathanlgill
@jonathanlgill 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the stats.
@micheledelloglio5820
@micheledelloglio5820 3 жыл бұрын
@@HAGENTYRANNY Leo Bad, Leo is carried by Byleth. But Byleth is not Mid, is AT LEAST high-mid, maybe even low-high tier
@darymetal
@darymetal 3 жыл бұрын
Esam analyzing the games last time: "Yhea i don't care about the Byleth sets" Sure man
@andrewnunn681
@andrewnunn681 3 жыл бұрын
Esam with that trademark clown behavior
@wolfsun4022
@wolfsun4022 3 жыл бұрын
it’s funny how this comment didn’t age well lol
@Daniel-uy1sv
@Daniel-uy1sv 3 жыл бұрын
come again?
@mrjollyguy25
@mrjollyguy25 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfsun4022 LOL ikr they all agree Byleth is no match for Pikachu
@jamo1774
@jamo1774 3 жыл бұрын
If anyone was doubting leo, like before saying he was carried by joker, this should definitively prove it is all him. Taking a slower character like byleth to this level (which I see literally noone else using btw) should say alot about his skill. Tweek tho I'm sure will have his day. He may be 2nd atm but tbh I don't think he is far behind leo at all. Amazing set and I commend both players. These guys are both so inspiring to watch.
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Tweek already beat leo at the last major before this but I doubt he will ever be no. 1. Leo already figured out his diddy.
@fupalover
@fupalover 3 жыл бұрын
@@showmeyourmoves8551 He beat a Leo who didn't know the MU. I commented on the summit video but once Leo learned the MU it was over and thats what happened. He practiced and got coaching from M2K and dominated like i predicted.
@axelnilsson2031
@axelnilsson2031 3 жыл бұрын
no one ever said mkleo was carried
@fupalover
@fupalover 3 жыл бұрын
@@axelnilsson2031 Only his haters did.
@jamo1774
@jamo1774 3 жыл бұрын
@@axelnilsson2031 yes, some did back when he won evo. That's what alot of the haters were saying.
@voodooedits785
@voodooedits785 3 жыл бұрын
“When life handles you DLC you play DLC” Hbox is spitting facts every time he commentates an ultimate set
@Cheezmonka
@Cheezmonka 3 жыл бұрын
He's surprisingly great on commentary, yeah.
@Jackaljkljkl
@Jackaljkljkl 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cheezmonka Aside from his KZbin clickbait shenanigans (e.g. his recent Waluigi video, etc), he's growing on me. A lot of the top Melee players and some fans just seem downright unfriendly, so maybe he'll prefer this community (If he can handle Puff dropping four tiers, lol)
@Cheezmonka
@Cheezmonka 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jackaljkljkl I think he's happy to just be involved with Smash in general. It's been a massive part of his life for longer than much of the fanbase (and even some competitors) have even been alive at this point, so it's probably a lot like being part of a family for HBox and some of the other veteran players.
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Hungrybox is the best commentator in any smash game. No one else comes close except Zero and maybe Dabuz.
@TheBomberman122
@TheBomberman122 3 жыл бұрын
@@showmeyourmoves8551 thats big CAP lol, I can name 5 better commentators just off the top of my head. TK EE BAM Korean Coney Also the Mexican commentator thats a luchador is also there but I couldn't remember his name so I didn't put it. There's a ton of better commentators lol
@mrjing5930
@mrjing5930 3 жыл бұрын
So…. mans just dominated a major with solo Byleth. wth
@voodooedits785
@voodooedits785 3 жыл бұрын
Not solo byleth he used aegis the first few sets
@Jackaljkljkl
@Jackaljkljkl 3 жыл бұрын
I remember ESAM discussing the matches and top players from Summit and saying something along the lines of "I won't talk about Byleth, as I don't care", and instead just talking about Leo's Pythra. Leo was serious this whole time. He wasn't flexing, memeing or being a FE3H fanboy. Byleth was his genuine competitive choice. Edit: I didn't mean this as a knock on ESAM specifically. He was just the example that came to mind. All the pros seemed to have a blind spot with regards to this character. Is it the result of residual salt/apathy from this/her reveal?
@Suzaku_Mizutani
@Suzaku_Mizutani 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see ESAM just like either treat this like it never happened or just brush everything off as 'Tweek played bad, it isn't the Byleth' Man talks some mad shit with nothing to back it up.
@bigmonke1738
@bigmonke1738 3 жыл бұрын
ESAM a whole bitch fr
@YGK-tu8cy
@YGK-tu8cy 3 жыл бұрын
Leo was being a serious FE3H fanboy
@FerDiazdeLeon
@FerDiazdeLeon 3 жыл бұрын
Man it was ESAM what do you expect? A reasonable opinion? Nah
@doomsdaygaming9928
@doomsdaygaming9928 3 жыл бұрын
As a Byleth main Leo's success is what keeps me up day and night practicing, labbing and pushing as hard as I can with the character. I hope we see more Byleth reps in the future
@xxjiosan2573
@xxjiosan2573 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most coolest and intense rivalry ever
@sebastianalonsolopezaldana6434
@sebastianalonsolopezaldana6434 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, they are top 2 without debate and by a big margin.
@9tailjeza
@9tailjeza 3 жыл бұрын
remember zero vs nairo?
@trevon444
@trevon444 3 жыл бұрын
Hasn’t tweek only beat Leo one time? Idk if that means it’s intense 😂😂
@xxjiosan2573
@xxjiosan2573 3 жыл бұрын
@@trevon444 wins don’t matter😂 it’s about how good the match plus these guys are pretty good
@ArceoInfinity
@ArceoInfinity 3 жыл бұрын
@@9tailjeza it's twerk and Leo now. They captilized ultimate competitive and that's what people didn't know they wanted more of
@makoraz2696
@makoraz2696 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing Leo win like this again brings me inner peace. Leo is the best, once he adapts there’s no beating him. Feel bad for tweek, he spent so long practicing and got 2019 evo ptsd.
@69metersbelow25
@69metersbelow25 3 жыл бұрын
He will come back stronger like leo.The rivalry between these two is remarkable
@joelxala6620
@joelxala6620 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like MKleo gets powered up by the crowd. In summit there is no crowed
@Rahochusosu
@Rahochusosu 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the distance demon Sakurai envisioned?
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Truly a demon
@aqua_rise
@aqua_rise 3 жыл бұрын
@Maddux Nagel Legendary comment
@bigtoblerone8446
@bigtoblerone8446 3 жыл бұрын
Mkleo was the distance demon we met along the way
@Atomosphere
@Atomosphere 3 жыл бұрын
Is Leo fully dedicated to Byleth now? I'll miss the Joker, but his Byleth is pretty fun to watch too.
@liborio3100
@liborio3100 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he even said that byleth is his best character now
@eddiealva9751
@eddiealva9751 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I like his Byleth.
@jacobomendez4701
@jacobomendez4701 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope he uses him as a primary character in any tournament in the future
@judex24
@judex24 3 жыл бұрын
Joker was 2019 get over it already.
@fatlord12
@fatlord12 3 жыл бұрын
@@judex24 Nah, Joker is still consistently S tier in most tier lists and top ranked PGR players like Tweek and Zackray play him as one of their mains
@sora5942
@sora5942 3 жыл бұрын
ホムヒカだDDだと言われてる中、自分の信じたベレトで優勝を掴み取っていくLeoは本当に格好いい
@Bittls
@Bittls 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think Tweek needs to keep his sephiroth in better shape. He barely plays the secondaries at all. While focusing on Diddy has paid off well for him, this game has such a large roster that having a reliable secondary is almost a must. If his Sephiroth, maybe even wolf, were given as much effort as Diddy it would give him a character to fall back on when his Diddy gets downloaded.
@fupalover
@fupalover 3 жыл бұрын
Nah Sephiroth at the highest level doesn't work. He's to exploitable and he dies early even earlier than Diddy. Look at the Sephiroth game Leo did his same nair to dash attack which killed Sephiroth at 102. Diddy would've lived there. That combined with Tweek being more passive as Sephiroth means he's a worst option.
@fupalover
@fupalover 3 жыл бұрын
Ok Sephiroth was at 105 from almost midstage and died. Diddy would've lived there.
@Reconqu1sta2
@Reconqu1sta2 3 жыл бұрын
Sephiroth isn’t that good bro
@Bittls
@Bittls 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reconqu1sta2 It doesnt have to be Seph, I meant having a reliable secondary in general. If that character for Tweek is Sephiroth, which it seems to be, then he needs to make sure its not rusty. Regardless of what character it is, most players in this game recommend having a reliable secondary.
@Bittls
@Bittls 3 жыл бұрын
@@fupalover I meant having a realible secondary in general. Tweek has stated that he keeps Spehiroth and Wolf as secondaries, but he barely uses them. His Sephiroth looked super rusty and I think he should try to make sure his secondaries are well practiced to be fall back on in situations such as this. Regardless of which character he picks that, I think he was not prepared to play any other character other than Diddy.
@drive137
@drive137 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a secret barrel off the side of Kalos stage and if you break it you release a lv. 99 Donkey Kong CPU
@Sogudu
@Sogudu 3 жыл бұрын
What a joy to witness this set. Leo and Tweek really do bring out the best of each other
@dey2x313
@dey2x313 3 жыл бұрын
Leo and tweek are peak smash ultimate and I hope they go even further than this
@ethanryan4188
@ethanryan4188 28 күн бұрын
Its crazy that Leo hasn't beaten Tweek since this set so long ago!
@EqualityEnjoyer
@EqualityEnjoyer 3 жыл бұрын
That last game is going straight into my Mind Break folder.
@warrenlwolfe
@warrenlwolfe 3 жыл бұрын
we BEEN on this Byleth hype train! I love that character so much, and Leo is truly pushing the meta to entirely new heights
@yusuf8938
@yusuf8938 3 жыл бұрын
Well, without Samsora and Nairo, this will likely be GF in 80% of the majors going forward.. at least until Spargo gets more experience
@diegocorral8787
@diegocorral8787 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can see Sparg0 at some point get into Grands in the future but I agree these two Players will consistently place 1st and 2nd in most of the majors.
@pabloarambula4627
@pabloarambula4627 3 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking along those lines, without nairo I think tweek spargo amd leo are gonna dominate majors. There's a lot of talent out there, hope this is not the case, I wanna see more competition
@DeemerAV
@DeemerAV 3 жыл бұрын
Until the Japanese and European players start coming to the US to compete again too. Leos been saying lately that one of the players hes most looking forward to playing again is Gluttony
@diegocorral8787
@diegocorral8787 3 жыл бұрын
@@kava3957 Sadly that's all he can do as he's banned from Twitch and can't appear at Majors becuase of it. I'd recommend seeing some old Nairo sets to see how great he was, was Top 10 and we'll never know if he still becuase of his unfortunate ban. Mainstage is a good tourney to see what he's capable of.
@Kishotto
@Kishotto 3 жыл бұрын
@@kava3957 oh you must not know the golden age of smash ultimate
@SartrezeChaney
@SartrezeChaney 3 жыл бұрын
This man mkleo consistency is ridiculous, this man is always in grand finals at every tournament, that is hard.
@z1andonlymig448
@z1andonlymig448 3 жыл бұрын
Yo anyone else wish all grand finals videos would add dead space at the end of the video so you don’t get spoiled by the video length?
@z1andonlymig448
@z1andonlymig448 3 жыл бұрын
@Maddux Nagel yeah 20 minutes looking at it from game 0 definitely, but once I saw the score being 1-1 I was like yup Leo’s got this one in the bag
@Athorment
@Athorment 3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me what? "Reclaims his throne after a disappointing Summit run" Conney... he got 2nd
@LeafellVideos
@LeafellVideos 3 жыл бұрын
For someone at the top, you don't want to settle for 2nd.
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Leo being 2nd is consider as an upset
@Athorment
@Athorment 3 жыл бұрын
@@showmeyourmoves8551 you dropped this mask, kid 🤡
@Sancnea
@Sancnea 3 жыл бұрын
@@Athorment Not really man. You should've heard the interview right after the match (not the one posted on PGstats, check out the VOD on btssmash). The disappointment comes from the fact that he got 6-0'd by Tweek. Even Leo himself thought he was washed because he said he felt so helpless against that Diddy. He himself mentioned that his hands were still shaking after Grands were done.
@Athorment
@Athorment 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sancnea "Disappointing Summit Grands" then. His "Run" was nothing short of insane as it was the classic MK Leo storyline of "loser's run back to grands" through the summit gauntlet.
@CrypticNazo
@CrypticNazo 3 жыл бұрын
Tweek running Sephi against Leo has the same energy as leo trying Aegis against Tweek at Summit
@SMFizzy
@SMFizzy 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@AdmXoklY
@AdmXoklY 3 жыл бұрын
Just a few days ago people were shitting on MKLeo for getting 3 stocked by Tweek. Now what, lol?
@thegrimoutlaw4732
@thegrimoutlaw4732 3 жыл бұрын
Tweek should've kept Diddy unless he switched so Leo wouldn't adapt and learn anymore of his plays? Either way. Tweeks Sephiroth got destroyed. Mkleo is the best smash player in the World!!!!
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Tweek kinda gave up when he switched.
@ethanv7330
@ethanv7330 3 жыл бұрын
@@showmeyourmoves8551 Tweek lost at game 4 imho
@alitalhouni2843
@alitalhouni2843 3 жыл бұрын
Man conquered smash using a high tier, and decided to do it all over again with a mid/low tier. The GOAT
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
What high tier?
@kurslash
@kurslash 3 жыл бұрын
@@showmeyourmoves8551 marth in ssb4
@odnalro-m1u
@odnalro-m1u 3 жыл бұрын
Dejando callados a todos los ardidos, grande MKLEO 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
@MrAnca
@MrAnca 3 жыл бұрын
Ahuevooo ALVVVVVV teamo leoooo
@Manuelmotivated25
@Manuelmotivated25 3 жыл бұрын
MKLeo's Byleth was already insane at Frostbite 2020. This is the continuation!
@aegeon5650
@aegeon5650 3 жыл бұрын
After watching this I’m convinced that if he had switched to byleth in his set against prodigy he would’ve won
@nestorportocarrero9972
@nestorportocarrero9972 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Leo, The Best of the World
@ppikach64
@ppikach64 3 жыл бұрын
Demi God vs One Winged Angel... Now that's some epic Names clashing at the end. Sadly Byleths Down B isn't some Time shenanigans like in his game.
@ThatSneakman
@ThatSneakman 3 жыл бұрын
Fitting that this set started with Guile's theme
@robotom6595
@robotom6595 3 жыл бұрын
After Summit, I was certain we were buckling up for an offline season dominated by Tweek. But damn man, Leo came through, with Byleth even. The shake up to the meta after the online era has totally changed the competitive environment and I can't wait to see what comes next.
@MidianVGC
@MidianVGC 3 жыл бұрын
These two fighting eachother… this is beautiful. It’s 1-1 now with the invitational summit. You guys are the uncontested gods of this game ^_^
@dee6561
@dee6561 3 жыл бұрын
I was rooting for Leo to win because he was using Byleth, but when Tweek pulled out the Sephiroth, I changed sides real quick. Sucks that the Sephiroth performed so horribly.
@redz9112
@redz9112 3 жыл бұрын
Sephiroth suffers from the Ridley syndrome....a tall and huge character that appears heavier than he looks, but is actually really light and easy to hit. I have a feeling Tweek might drop him.
@janswhatsupdoc
@janswhatsupdoc 3 жыл бұрын
@@redz9112 same since his diddy so established anyway
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Its an even matchup but the thing is tweek's sephiroth is not optimal.
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
@@ISoundMasterBlasterI sephiroth is areally overrated. Feels like second worst dlc of fps after Kazuya.
@gv82089
@gv82089 3 жыл бұрын
@@showmeyourmoves8551 umm, banjo? byleth?
@justsomeguy7042
@justsomeguy7042 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of awkward that Tweek was still VERSION 1 at summit where he 6-0d Leo and now that he’s VERSION 2, Leo reverse 3-0d him, three stocked him twice and made him switch off his main…
@osal9663
@osal9663 3 жыл бұрын
Se ve el alivio de Leo al pelear contra Sephiroth en lugar de Diddy, la primer victoria la festejo como si fuera el campeonato y en la tercera victoria ni se inmutó porque sabía que había ganado la competición en el momento que Tweek abandono a Diddy.
@kylethompson4543
@kylethompson4543 3 жыл бұрын
Just when you think Leo's Byleth can't get any more cracked, he pulls off a performance like this... Where is the ceiling?!
@Middaylantern
@Middaylantern 3 жыл бұрын
This was so fun to watch! Leo is amazing at turning disadvantage into advantage, frequently catching the banana and turning a bad situation into a stock. Tweek played great as well! Good show guys!
@Kallen_ZSS
@Kallen_ZSS 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad this happened, this is poetry
@x64
@x64 3 жыл бұрын
It's stuff like this that makes me want to get back into smash man. Ain't nothing like beating your bracket demon!
@hakirayleigh
@hakirayleigh 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!! And I thought maybe after few months Mkleo would defeat tweek with a rushdown characters as Aegis and not with his favorite tank, Byleth. Only respects for Mkleo.
@r3tro543
@r3tro543 3 жыл бұрын
We gotta normalize extending video length to avoid spoilers PepeHands
@NonRandomUser
@NonRandomUser 3 жыл бұрын
Game 1 lasted ~5:43 Game 2 lasted ~4:05 Game 3 lasted ~4:24 Game 4 lasted *~**2:33*
@loghen01
@loghen01 3 жыл бұрын
The difference between the first and last games, tho. Talk about a download.
@Vika_too
@Vika_too 3 жыл бұрын
At 11:40 my friend grabbed my pikachu plushie and threw it across the background of MKLeo's Cam and I am losing my absolute shit at it on stream
@janswhatsupdoc
@janswhatsupdoc 3 жыл бұрын
what an amazing set and to win with solo Byeth too holy shit yo
@Lagoon7
@Lagoon7 3 жыл бұрын
I love that the 2 best players don't even main top tiers
@Hippienolic2
@Hippienolic2 3 жыл бұрын
Tweek throwing it away with Setheroph. Not saying he would’ve won but it certainly would have been a closer last game
@daviddinh9031
@daviddinh9031 3 жыл бұрын
he probably felt like his diddy was already figured out and thought that throwing something new at leo would throw him off, but leo was already warm on byleth and didn't have to worry about unfavorable interactions like with the banana.
@cygnusgp
@cygnusgp 3 жыл бұрын
He just didn't want to get his diddy destroyed anymore
@Ace-py5nf
@Ace-py5nf 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah one the seph came out it was over seph aint tweeks character
@eddiealva9751
@eddiealva9751 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I was trying to figure out. I wanted Tweek to lose but felt bad. Was hard to watch that last game. Why not just stick with Diddy till the end? He really only gave him a few matches to make him believe his Diddy wasn’t relevant anymore.
@thinkreset8612
@thinkreset8612 3 жыл бұрын
No way bro, his Diddy is much better than his Sephiroth.
@wydnoob5974
@wydnoob5974 3 жыл бұрын
Leo’s the only one to win tournaments with a handful of characters
@CatNamus
@CatNamus 3 жыл бұрын
What Leo pulled off was incredible
@Ereinion25
@Ereinion25 3 жыл бұрын
As a Byleth main I think I need to rewatch winners & grands a few times to learn from this man. Leo is just nuts.
@acekingdom5050
@acekingdom5050 3 жыл бұрын
This comment contains spoilers: MKLeo has gotten his revenge from Summit! I remember seeing comments saying “Byleth isn’t the way to go against Tweek” BUT LOOK WHAT LEO JUST DID!
@shionwandering
@shionwandering 3 жыл бұрын
He should have gone Byleth at Summit because the result wouldn't be the same
@zzzdeph
@zzzdeph 3 жыл бұрын
You dont need to say that the comment contents spoilers, most comments do. If someone gets spoiled from reading the comments its their fault as they should have watched the video first.
@acekingdom5050
@acekingdom5050 3 жыл бұрын
@@zzzdeph True
@quentebarchiveeoutrascoisa8036
@quentebarchiveeoutrascoisa8036 3 жыл бұрын
Competitive Melee is sick, Competitive Ultimate is art
@rarumanH
@rarumanH 3 жыл бұрын
Now will Tweek be able to counter Leo in future tournaments like Leo just did after his Summit defeat, or is his Diddy figured out and a dead match-up?
@juicemanvon9859
@juicemanvon9859 3 жыл бұрын
Tweek just needs to train heavy against Byleth. You know Leo was training every day after he got waxed 6-0 by Tweek at Summit.
@voodooedits785
@voodooedits785 3 жыл бұрын
Is there really any good byleths in tristate?
@nekcuuz
@nekcuuz 3 жыл бұрын
@@juicemanvon9859 pretty sure it was only 3-0 since leo was from losers and tweek from winners
@juicemanvon9859
@juicemanvon9859 3 жыл бұрын
@@nekcuuz both sets equals 6-0. That's why everyone said Tweek waxed Leo 6-0 at Summit.
@salvadorcendejas9764
@salvadorcendejas9764 3 жыл бұрын
@@nekcuuz I think tweek was the one who sent him to losers 3-0ing him so he beat him 6-0 that tournament.
@RealAndyMiami
@RealAndyMiami 3 жыл бұрын
as a mewtwo main i was really hoping he'd lose badly to tweek, so that Leo can finally pull out his mewtwo to counter diddy like he did in kongo series :(
@KP-us1ld
@KP-us1ld 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when everyone thought Tweek was going to dominate from now on after Summit and that he was unstoppable? Pepperidge farm remembers.
@AroundWayOther
@AroundWayOther 3 жыл бұрын
What a set! Love seeing Byleth. Great riptide event, ty all!
@amphibiansriseup596
@amphibiansriseup596 3 жыл бұрын
Leo winning Riptide with solo Byleth convinced me that Ultimate is balanced asf
@amphibiansriseup596
@amphibiansriseup596 3 жыл бұрын
@Maddux Nagel my man Leo is just showing that its possible
@hakirayleigh
@hakirayleigh 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, the "top tier" Pikachu is under the carpet along with dust and not achievement even from his best player, ESAM.
@timevalentime1806
@timevalentime1806 3 жыл бұрын
@Maddux Nagel pretty sure at this point he's just showing that Byleth is a high tier. His Byleth currently is starting to look as good if not better than his other characters.
@sauce8277
@sauce8277 3 жыл бұрын
​@Maddux Nagel It's not a argument. The character is high tier. The character is built to auto-stage control, auto-tech chase AND auto combo at any percent. And its all safe.
@timevalentime1806
@timevalentime1806 3 жыл бұрын
@Maddux Nagel yeah so looks like we agree. I would definitely also agree with not solely basing tiers on results. Kazuya would be another example to go with yours. On paper he's top five because of all of his tools, but he is very easy to mess up with. I'd say Byleth is high tier and with way more evidence (or a good buff) I'd consider them top tier.
@stickmix5022
@stickmix5022 3 жыл бұрын
Leo's Byleth is an inspiration that tiers don't matter. I had my doubts about the Byleth and Diddy match-up but seeing Leo stay as Byleth the whole time makes me wanna stay a Byleth main no matter the match-up
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Tier list changes all the tume to be fair.
@maxrichter4231
@maxrichter4231 3 жыл бұрын
GOD vs GOD
@riley9771
@riley9771 3 жыл бұрын
15:33 Coney's Reaction to this is amazing😂😂
@aartie1999
@aartie1999 3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t u make the vods longer to avoid spoilers? it’s such an easy thing to do nd makes it actually worth watching
@kestrel7493
@kestrel7493 3 жыл бұрын
Bts used to, but didn't for riptide. I'm not sure what happened
@glitchunicorn
@glitchunicorn 3 жыл бұрын
It's the clash of the titans! I have a feeling it's going to go back and forth in between these 2 this year.
@FatalFord
@FatalFord 3 жыл бұрын
Guile's Theme got me fuckin LIT
@JOVMULL
@JOVMULL 3 жыл бұрын
This basically when a late game champion (Byleth) fights an early game champion (Diddy, Sephi) in league. Sure you bully him early and get a few kills but once he gets going, he's basically unstoppable.
@hermannplatz
@hermannplatz 3 жыл бұрын
Back to VERSION 1.
@ClockWorksb
@ClockWorksb 3 жыл бұрын
This game is in such a good place rn, very excited for what the next few months hold
@DSCInca
@DSCInca 3 жыл бұрын
Who knew thumbnails were so hard to make.
@Ben_lewandowski
@Ben_lewandowski 3 жыл бұрын
They’re trying to just get all the sets posted so people can watch, they go back and add thumbnails once videos are uploaded, cut them some slack lol
@reallywins
@reallywins 3 жыл бұрын
leo's adaptability is unmatched.
@NamiseSports
@NamiseSports 3 жыл бұрын
Did you know that if Leo is down 0-2, there's a higher chance of him winning than not
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
Leo have the ability called Download
@TehWhiteTiger
@TehWhiteTiger 3 жыл бұрын
Such a hype event. If Tweek won he would be undoubtedly #1 but it seems MKLeo is still unwilling to let go of his crown just yet. Still if Tweek can keep up his new mentality and keep up this consistency we are sure to see some more hype back and forth in the future.
@dee6561
@dee6561 3 жыл бұрын
Okay but who was that person at 19:52? I don't recognize that person, and evidently Leo was confused and even upset at what was quite possibly a violation of personal space.
@VanguardJohnson
@VanguardJohnson 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that could of lead to some physical altercation. I saw it and was like I hope mkleo knows that guy or that's so crappy of a random person to do
@kuramakun84
@kuramakun84 3 жыл бұрын
Tweek is an amazing player his Diddy kong is scary. But man Leo is just GOAT material this man was made for this game. I can see Mkleo retiring from Ultimate as the top dog. I love how competitive smash is back offline. It’s so good to watch and exciting. I even got my parents watching matches as if we where watching Sunday night football lol 😂 smash is so good. I wish they would show these matches on espn or something.
@tomcruise7481
@tomcruise7481 3 жыл бұрын
Ive said this before but as time went on online leos byleth was starting to beat tweeks diddy more often than losing at some point and it made me wonder why he didn't go byleth at summit during grands. Would the outcome have been in leos favor if he brought out byleth instead of pythra?
@elchupacabra1406
@elchupacabra1406 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Leo was practicing a ton more Pythra before Summit and didn't have as much faith in his Byleth doing too well at Summit. But after summit, something clicked and he decided to put mostly everything into his Byleth and really learn the Diddy MU as well since he really wants Byleth to be his main.
@tomcruise7481
@tomcruise7481 3 жыл бұрын
@@elchupacabra1406 im a heavy leo fan as a fellow mexicano but im still under the impression its just leo being a god and making byleth work with his playstyle rather than byleth always being really good, i still think byleth is a mid tier. I was going for tweek at summit and here too this time tho due to tweeks journey with diddy being one of the most inspiring stories ive seen in this game in a while but that doesn't mean my fav player isn't leo.
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomcruise7481 if byleth is really not that good, how come leo underperformed with aegis?
@Sancnea
@Sancnea 3 жыл бұрын
@@showmeyourmoves8551 Leo was better prepped for the banana and had way more practice on his Byleth this time around after attending 2 MSMs before this tournament. He himself said in the post match interview (It's on PGstats) that he just didn't have enough faith in Byleth after how badly he lost game 1 to Tweek.
@StuartFknLil
@StuartFknLil 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we see more promising & up-and-coming players in future tournaments to shake things up. It's great to witness the love for both players, but if MKleo is in a tournament you can almost guarantee the result, the only surprise would be Tweek placing first instead of second. They deserve what they get for how much time they've put in for sure, but I just want to see more competition and unexpected victories. C; PS: Hope we see Tea and his Pac-Man make a return to the US tournaments as well. :)
@HardSprinkle
@HardSprinkle 3 жыл бұрын
Bruhhh I love how people were legit saying that Leo wasn't GOAT anymore after that Summit performance. Like chillllll he wasn't even on a main, and this is proof. Tweek Godtier, and Leo is even higher
@nachot6592
@nachot6592 3 жыл бұрын
So Leo stayed at the ledge to prevent Didi from stringing long combos. Dangerous AF but genius. And that 3-0 at the end...damn. BTW, Leo traded Sephiroth's 2-frame OMG.
@oozorahaomaenomono
@oozorahaomaenomono 3 жыл бұрын
まさかホムヒカより不利なベレトで勝つとはww
@MrMattStat
@MrMattStat 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make the video longer next time? A 21 minute video you clearly tell who wins based off who’s on winners side.
@kockdown3s403
@kockdown3s403 3 жыл бұрын
For the love of god put empty time at the end for grand finals, we get spoiled everytime the bracket is not reset !!
@kockdown3s403
@kockdown3s403 3 жыл бұрын
@Tyler Davis what a smart comment !
@Manuelmotivated25
@Manuelmotivated25 3 жыл бұрын
@Tyler Davis Dude, I watched everything live until 5:00 a.m. in my country. I slept until 2:50 p.m.
@fourbuttons1
@fourbuttons1 3 жыл бұрын
This set made me want to play again after 6 months. Hype!
@frkscheeks1528
@frkscheeks1528 3 жыл бұрын
Beyond The Summit needs to hire GimR to make some hype ass thumbnails…
@hanselgo5065
@hanselgo5065 3 жыл бұрын
Should there be no travel restrictions, the next EVO will be SICK! Top 10 currently IMO: 1. MkLeo 2. Tweek 3. Glutonny 4-10 (no apparent order) -. Mars -. Maister -. Spargo -. Tea -. Zackray -. Protobanham -. Dabuz
@darkyu3229
@darkyu3229 3 жыл бұрын
Nairo~
@diek_yt
@diek_yt 3 жыл бұрын
...did Glutonny post this? lmao
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