Budget 10-Bit Monitor for VIDEO EDITING?

[@thomasfransson]

📢 ARE YOU HAPPY WITH YOUR CURRENT MONITOR? 🖥️📺

[@EveryThingTechet]

I need to get mine calibrated. It would be great if the thumbnail could be a little more click baity.

[@thomasfransson]

@@EveryThingTechet Haha! Good point, will see if I can change it.

[@thomasfransson]

@@EveryThingTechet True, calibration can make a huge difference.

[@deckerhayden5139]

I guess I'm kinda off topic but do anyone know of a good website to watch newly released tv shows online ?

[@mysterycrimearcade]

@@thomasfransson thank you for your video! Im thinking on it... i like the monitor but idk how to calibrate it... Some help?

[@premiumturkish]

I think there is enough room on KZbin for such a quality person like you. I hope you would keep going.

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you, thats very kind of you to say.

[@jirehla-ab1671]

​​@@thomasfranssoni regret buying 27 inch downgrading to 24 inch , since the monitor top to bottom was big for me.

[@brucekennedy5274]

Good for you. I’m impressed you pinpointed just what you needed without paying silly money on extra size or resolution you didn’t need.

[@thomasfransson]

Well, we are talking budget about monitors. And your deliverables dictate your needs ;)

[@nadtz]

I got an Asus Proart PA278QV for very similar reasons. I got extremely lucky with a Target deal + gift certificate so it only cost me like $50 out of pocket. I've been very happy with it for my photo editing and video editing needs even without 10 bit, HDR and all those other bells and whistles.

[@thomasfransson]

That's a great deal! Unless you deliver HDR video you don't need that.

[@SakkiDuran]

You have one of the best colors I have seen. Good job and thanks for the advice!

[@thomasfransson]

Nice! 3 years since this video and It's still my main monitor for work. No complaints here either ;) Cheers!

[@Sven.Bornemark]

10-bit explained very well. Thank you! :-)

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you Sven!

[@art.generalist]

but its not 10 bit, it is 8 bit+FRC

[@pietroisolan1675]

Great video! I turned around KZbin, forums, articles, friends exactly about this dilemma! Finally, 2 days ago i bought on amazon benQ pd2705q, waiting for it Wednesday!! so happy to ear from you the same path! Pietro from Italy

[@thomasfransson]

Congratulations! Enjoy your new monitor

[@pietroisolan1675]

@@thomasfransson thank you!!!!

[@mahdinerd]

Another top level content from Thomas, keep up the good work 🔥👏🏻

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you so much! Glad to hear that it was helpful.

[@gregoryedwards8918]

Interesting and helpful!! BenQ PD 2700Q next week! Thanks so much for the info Thomas.

[@thomasfransson]

Glad it was helpful!

[@hitthesynth6417]

Nice video but a bit misleading as 10bit would need a pro GPU to work. Yes a 10bit panel is usually more precise than a 8bit panel because more capable at the end, but to display true 10bit UI you would need a pro gpu or a decklink as normal GTX and RX card are locked by manufacturer (you can select 10bit in Nvidia panel but it won't display it in let's say photoshop for exemple)

[@thomasfransson]

True, to get the very most out of it, if working in colorspaces beyond rec.709 something like a DeckLink Mini is worth investing in. I've been considering making a video about this next step in the future. Thank you for your comment. I appreciate it.

[@therealb888]

I didn't know that manufacturers lock their skus like that beyond the mining issue. Locking 10bit from using it's complete potential is such a dirty thing to do.

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

Thank you so much! I'm definitely adding this one to my buying list.

[@thomasfransson]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@Westwardeast]

Holy freaking crap that image is crisp!

[@roberthoeglund]

Funny I ran in to your video, since I’m at the moment looking for a monitor. Hopefully, but probably not, my Mac Studio Max shows up tomorrow 😊 Great video as always. Love your lighting and mood. Cheers!

[@thomasfransson]

It's a small world! That machine seems amazing, hope to see some new videos from you soon. Thanks

[@jalfonso07]

Thank you for sharing this info Thomas!

[@thomasfransson]

Glad you found it helpful

[@kozykev]

Exactly what I need, great video thanks

[@thomasfransson]

Glad it helped

[@kreyati]

I'm imagining when there was 2 bit image, thing was wonderfull on it

[@kontofs3452]

Hey Thomas cool video! Acutally monitors in this price-range are not true 10-bit displays. It's 8bit+FRC - you can google it easly what that means. Anyway keep up good quality videos!

[@thomasfransson]

Thats true. It's not quite the same. But a viable budget option. Thanks for commenting.

[@kontofs3452]

@@thomasfransson ofc it is! I own benq bl2711u (~$400) and I'm super happy :) Next stop is SW270c which is $800 cost and 8bit+FRC still but the true 10-bit display is not that important as great color accuracy. Channel "ArtIsRight" explains that pretty well :)

[@thomasfransson]

Nice! Thats so true, color accuracy first. Once you reach a certain level, upgrading becomes more of an investment than a purchase 😅 Thanks for the tip, will check it out.

[@awesomeunicorn7322]

Do you have an updated version? Im looking into buying a monitor mainly for graphic design :)

[@thomasfransson]

They have a few different series like the designVue and photovue that might be of interest.

[@juansalenko]

Köpte Benq PD3200 och din video var till viss hjälp. Satt och redigerade på min laptop på slutet vilket var lite drygt. Dina videor är snygga för övrigt, bra jobbat

[@thomasfransson]

Tack, hoppas du är nöjd med din nya monitor.

[@JonasMondrup]

I got dual gaming monitor setup for my Windows desktop PC. I really like taking photos and editing on the gaming panels is not ideal, so I edit on a 15 inch MacBook pro screen, is an IPS but full Retina 8bit screen with perfect accuracy, but I'm slowly leaning towards adding a photo editing monitor to the setup and replacing an old FHD 144hz gaming monitor. I just need a 27inch VESA mount and maybe 4k I'm not sure, this PD2700Q is not a bad option thought! Is hard man I'm stuck in a loop :D

[@thomasfransson]

Good screens on those macs fo sure! If you mainly edit images and video for social media - A decent 8bit monitor will do the job as most social media are still 8bit platforms including youtube (which handles other color spaces, but 8bit sRGB and rec.709 are still the standard) So unless you have the need for 10bit perhaps a more affordable 8bit or 8bit+FRC monitor and a calibration tool will give you the results you are looking for.

[@paulbeckmann]

Thanks for the great review! Veryt helpful!

[@thomasfransson]

Glad it was helpful!

[@HomeGrownMedia]

This monitor is also 75% adobe RBG. I'm struggling to decide if I should get this or the Asus ProArt PA247CV with 75mhz refresh rate (but sadly no 10bit) - although it claims to have slightly better colour accuracy.

[@thomasfransson]

I have never used the ASUS so I'm not able to say how different they are performance wise. Do you need Adobe RGB coverage? I work in REC.709 and sRGB since I only publish on the web.

[@HomeGrownMedia]

@@thomasfransson no I mainly do videos for web so will be using the same. I guess Adobe rbg is just good for printing. My pd2700q is arriving tomorrow hopefully it will be decent 🤞thanks for the review

[@thomasfransson]

@@HomeGrownMedia nice! Congratulations

[@Roossi03]

@@HomeGrownMedia how has it been so far? ☺️

[@HomeGrownMedia]

​@@Roossi03arrived with a massive crack so I sent it back but I did get a 4k benq monitor 27 inch

[@edjonacademy7435]

Congs budy, am also on the way, learnt something today

[@MrRadioGypsy]

Tom Fransson: If you do not see the same color grade and contrast on your own video that you uploaded to KZbin on that SAME monitor, and if it doesn't look the same afterwards seeing it on KZbin; then it isn't your monitor's fault. What is the problem? The compression algorithm employed by KZbin. Another thing: Nothing all wrong with using a much larger monitor. The finer details/mistakes are more noticed and camera lens issues (color aberrations/focus/etc) get to be more acutely visible. If one goes to all the trouble and expense to make content; why should small issues be allowed to become noticed if enough people seeing your work are using larger monitors? And they do. Unless they aren't glaring mistakes.

[@thomasfransson]

There's a lot of reasons why the material might look different, like you said - compression plays a role. If you upload the same file to different platforms it will often look different between those platforms. Then there's color space of the viewing display, calibration level of the screen you are grading vs viewing the content on. Along with screen type. There’s people grading on monitors that won't show you the full rec.709 gammut or in the case of Apple users - they're stuck with P3 gammut while the rest of the world use rec.709. Aaand a lot of other things. When it comes to the size of the screen, in this particular video where I talk about a budget friendly monitor for video editing, one of the arguments was to favor a better display over a larger one that didn't offer the same level of performance. There's also a number of things to take into consideration when it comes to the screen size apart from the distance between the screen and operator. And available space. (Atm I have 51" of screen area on my desk I find it strainingat the distance I'm at) But let's not forget - even if you buy a super duper 32" display 80-90% of that display will show the GUI of you NLE and not the image you are editing or grade. A lot of industry monitors for color grading is still 24" monitors, but they have the footage in full screen on that monitor. Then again, if your main output is web-based content for youtube and other social platforms, more than 70% of that content will be watched on a tiny smartphone display. In rec.709 even if the smartphones have oled/AMOLED display capable of displaying wider gammuts than the rec.709 being used on all those platforms. So when all comes down, you don't really need a super duper monitor necessarily. As long as it's capable of displaying the gammut of your deliverables and if it can be calibrated- along with having a decent contrast ratio. You should be fine. Naturally the same logic applies if you are delivering things like HDR content and so on. Your chain should meet the necessary standards and requirements for that color space, resolutionand so on. I hope this clears up any confusion in my video. An update on this is long overdue and I was hoping to get a new monitor for this. But sadly that didn't happen yet. Have a great day and thank you for swinging by.

[@FilmGradeIII]

Nice setup! Love the table❤️

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you FilmGrade

[@TrainMePlease]

I edit 8 bit footage. Which monitor would you recommend?

[@thomasfransson]

I would recommend the same BenQ or something similar. Having a good calibrted monitor will help you correct and grade your footage with better results and less guessing.

[@TrainMePlease]

@@thomasfransson I thought you might say that. Thank you. Does Ben Q have any model mostly similar but slightly more affordable? Do they have a twin of this one but that does not support 10-bit footage?

[@thomasfransson]

This model isn't their newest so check the prices, you might be able to find one at a better price than I did when I bought mine. Maybe there's a smaller 24" version too. I would suggest to get something like these monitors as you might find yourself outgrow a more basic monitor very quickly and in need to upgrade again. Same if you upgrade your camera. I worked on a 24" Dell Ultrasharp, they are decent monitors but I outgrew as I got more used to and better at editing and color correction. So I would still say, be patient and look around. The Benq are among the most affordable options out there. If you want anything less you will end up with a monitor not made for editing. Like Dell Ultrasharp and other IPS monitors from brands with good reputation.

[@TrainMePlease]

@@thomasfransson in the same price range (marginally cheaper) is the "ASUS PA247CV 23.8' ProArt Professional Monitor, FHD (1920 x 1080), IPS, 100% sRGB, Calman Verified". The BenQ would be better, wouldn't it?

[@thomasfransson]

​@@TrainMePlease Pick the one that makes the most sense to you if there isn't a huge price difference. The only thing I can add is the fact that 24" might feel a bit small after a while and you might find yourself wanting to upgrade to a 27" anyway. In that sense the BenQ will probably serve you longer and end up being a cheaper option in the long run. Even if it's marginally more expensive today. So don't just look at your present needs but try gazing a year or two ahead.

[@mtmccornack]

I recently (literally yesterday) got a new monitor for all my photos and video editing... My budget was close to yours and I had to ask myself the same question. Color accurate 1440 vs 4k affordable? I ended up leaning on color accurate 1440, my only difference is I chose an ultrawide that was nearly in budget so I ponied up an extra 100 and got a Proart ultrawide for 200 under MSRP. So far so good, glad I made the priority color.

[@thomasfransson]

Good choice, resolution won't give you color accuracy

[@andyz_w3584]

great video !!! however, it's really hard to find one on the market. they may be discontinued.

[@thomasfransson]

Thanks Andy Well, it is getting older. But I just made a quick search on amazon and it's available there if you can order from amazon.

[@andyz_w3584]

@@thomasfransson thank you Tomas.

[@oaksoepai]

Well done 👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼hope you get more viewers. Should put the links that where can we buy it

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you, I will look into that.

[@freddymiguelponce]

GREAT video! Do you have a video where you explain why do you have one monitor vertical? How do you use it? Thanks in advance and sorry for my English i'm still learning Have a Productive and Healthy Day!

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you Freddy! About the monitor, it actually just ended up like that when I figured out how to get a 27 and a 24" monitor to fit side by side on my desk 😉 I tried running both horizontal but i almost had to look over my shoulders to see the edges of each monitor. But it's actually pretty handy for social media, scrolling when looking for music, typing and reading. I kinda like it now.

[@freddymiguelponce]

@@thomasfransson Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question Thomas!

[@thomasfransson]

No problem. I would have wondered too 😅

[@GamermeetMemes]

what is the difference of hdr 10 bit color?

[@thomasfransson]

To over simplify 10bit represents colors and tonal range. HDR represents exposure or the difference between the darkest and brightest part of an image. If you edit and upload/publish hdr or 10bit video then you will need a monitor capable of displaying that standard. However if you as an example upload standard 8-bit video to youtube or any other website. Then you will need to set your monitor to 8bit and work in an 8bit environment in order for your material to be displayed properly without showing artifacts like banding or crushed shadows and blown out highlights.

[@gatosoul]

Hi, My experience with BenQ wasn't good, My BenQ SW320 ( $1200 ) just died after 3 years and BenQ doesn't want to fix it "they said is too expensive to fix" thank you for sharing.

[@thomasfransson]

Sorry to hear this.

[@justinhennessy868]

Absolutely great video everything we set up and explained soooo well!!! great work and some advise to keep people engaged a bit more is try to have a little more energy and your energy is what puts energy into the video. Thank you very much for the video I truly appreciate it and I'm definitely giving you the like and subscribe

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you Justin, I really appreciate the feedback. I'll do my best to improve.

[@NewWebDesign]

hey pal love your video quality and grading - great monitor advice as well - im wondering what is your setup? bc it looks like right up there with the best quality ive ever seen

[@thomasfransson]

Oh thank you! Most of my videos are shot on the Fujifilm X-T4 and the Sigma 18-35 lens. I shoot my talking head using the Provia profile. I have a godox SL60W with a softbox and a reflector bounce. Microphones I've used is the Boya BY-M1, Rode Lav Go and now more recently I've switched to the Lavalier II from Rode. Editing and grading is done in Premiere. I mostly use film emulation luts and do basic color correction as well as highlight/shadow adjustments. Hope this helps.

[@NewWebDesign]

​@@thomasfransson thanks pal huge help - yeah i run the overlooked fugi xt3 and im ganna check for that picture profile - they had a great sale on it 1k back in the day and at that time it was by far the best video cam --- as far as pre and post production - those luts which ones did you buy? what Codac do you render out in? do you make proxies or anything like render in and out wile editing to smooth out the footage? do you film in h265? i have been driving myself crazy from under espoused and to every mistake in the book making my edits 20 times longer then they need to be - also what is your iso goal and f-stop at? do you under or over exposé? i think that cover it - im ganna subscribe with my other channels as well huge help thank you!!!

[@joshpankey1184]

Are you still using this monitor and if so how's it working out?

[@thomasfransson]

I am. It still works great, almost everything I do, commercial and my own projects are cut and color graded on this monitor and I haven't thought about getting another one yet.

[@RunningInSuits]

Great video! I'm debating if I should go with a dual 4k 27" setup or a dual 4k 32" setup. I'd be doing mostly photo and video editing powered by my m1 pro macbook pro.

[@thomasfransson]

That's a good question. I personally prefer to have a more manageable and dedicated view instead of scanning to far from end to end on the screen. And I enjoy being able to have other windows open on the second screen for things like music and other external assets. Without having to lose sight of the project. I think it also comes down to viewing distance. I can't remember the numbers , but there's guides out there on optimal viewing distance vs screen size. When It comes to curved displays, some photographers says that it can be trickier to judge if a horizon is leveled on those. So maybe another thing to take into consideration

[@edge_of_theknife6315]

there is a 4k model for 500usd so i think i'll go for that

[@juliangigante]

Hi Thomas. Just watching this 9 months after you posted. Would you say this is still a good monitor to buy today? Current price is $349. Any other good options under $500 you recommend? If so any 4k ones? I mostly desire a monitor to improve my video color grading process.

[@thomasfransson]

Hi Julian, it's still a good monitor for grading. It lack some newer features like USB-C connectivity. BenQ have a few newer updated models so you could look at those or/and use the specs on this monitor as base value and see what other brands offer that are same or better. There's the whole thing with the FRC that could be a potential improvement on a newer monitor. But a true 10bit display with SPI connection is still going to set you back more than $500 unless you find an old used 24" maybe. More professional monitors like the Eizo ColorEdge CG319X ($5,739.00) is on a completely different level than monitors in this price range ;) The most important aspect is that the monitor can display the desired color space you will be grading in. Depending on what you deliver REC.709 is the most common color space. Most regular displays only offer sRGB (photography/WEB) and Adobe RGB (mainly used for print work) Monitors like the EIZO When it comes to 4K you should probably get a 32" inch or larger to get the benefits of 4K as a monitor on a regular desk viewing distance. But sitting close to a 32" can be a bit straining on your neck depending on your work space layout ;) Panning left to right across the screen and not being able to have everything in view without dropping something and turn your head to find a slider or knob ;) Let me know what you end up buying, I've been meaning to do an update on this video next year and I'm curious to see what monitor you end up going with. Cheers!

[@ozzythemighty2767]

Should i buy it for Color grading or is there any other i should actually look at before i make my decision?

[@thomasfransson]

It depends on your budget. Theres also slightly newer models I believe. But I'm still happy with mine.

[@ozzythemighty2767]

@@thomasfransson thx for the response..may i ask what model your talking about..can't seem to pin point it. thx

[@Stvcxnn]

Great Video! I Need one for my study i recently started. On Amazon there’s a 4K version of this monitor. Would you consider or recommend to buy this version?

[@thomasfransson]

Yes absolutely. Enjoy your new monitor

[@bandclanworldwide]

thanks for this vid fam

[@MikaelAtterby]

All of a sudden I want a new monitor too...

[@Angelo_Paduraru]

Great video, very nice monitor!

[@thomasfransson]

Thanks!

[@praneeth210]

Very important for me thanks 🤠

[@RogerBergqvist]

Bra Engelska för att vara en Svensk. Sjyssst video! 😊

[@thomasfransson]

Tack, två gånger Roger!

[@duncandimanche-fr4270]

great video ! you got a new sub !

[@thomasfransson]

Awesome, thank you Duncan!

[@duncandimanche-fr4270]

@@thomasfransson ❤️

[@vallepukumar5229]

hey buddy!, i'm really confused between LG 29WQ500 (29 inch) UltraWide FHD (2560 x 1080) IPS Monitor and a Acer XZ306CX 29.5 Inch (74.93 Cm) Ultrawide 21:9 [VA PANEL] and i'm a video editor and in my free time i use to play slight gaming and can you suggest which monitor is better for me?

[@thomasfransson]

I'm not overly familiar with those monitors so I can just look at the spec sheets which didn't provide much info regarding their suitability for color critical work. But if it's just normal editing and exporting 8bit rec709 for youtube and social media, I wouldn't worry too much. See if you can figure out if they have a dedicated rec.709 mode.

[@KathyXie]

So when you edit 10 bits footage on a 8 bit monitor, you can see color banding that is not there and is just cause by the monitor?

[@thomasfransson]

Yes and no. Banding can be caused by both monitor and color space. However if you are working with 10bit footage with the intent to show it as 8bit rec709 online on a platform like youtube. You should be working in an 8bit rec709 color space and so on. For those situations a 10bit monitor isn't really beneficial.

[@dennysmith2291]

hi bud quick question. does samsung galaxy tab s7 have a 10bit display 🤔. any advice would be greatly appreciated

[@thomasfransson]

I don’t know. Sorry.

[@Vinhl3e]

Hi! I don't do anything related to editing. I only use my monitor for daily tasks like surfing the web, watching movies and youtube.... I'm deciding between an 8 bit monitor and an 8 bit + FRC monitor (slightly more expensive, about 10% of the price). Can you tell me for my use, how big is diffrence between 8 bits and 8 bits + FRC? And is it worth the extra 10% of the price?

[@Vinhl3e]

P/s: I know for sure that 8 bits + FRC is better than 8 bits. It's just that I want to know if the difference is obvious or not. And can the content displayed on the internet and windows take full advantage of 10 bits?

[@thomasfransson]

The internet is still 99% 8bit So if you’re not doing any processing on your computer with an output greater than 8bit there's no need. The one exception would be if you're watching movies on your computer and some of those are hdr.

[@editsbydaan6048]

Very clear and informative video! I am an enthousiast wildlife photographer and I was looking for monitor. I also do some occasional gaming. Is the *Dell* *S2721DGF* also good enough color-wise? From what I could see it has 10-bit (8-bit+FRC) / DCI-P3; HDR10 Would like to know if you could recommend it ! Thanks in advance ~ Daan

[@thomasfransson]

Hi Daan, I've not looked at that particular monitors specs. But it probably will do a great job. As long as it supports the types of color spaces you normally work with. It's more important that the monitor can display the color space of the final file than using the highest available color space in terms of bitrate and so on. I publish all my material on the web so for me 8 bit sRGB and rec.709 is pretty much the only ones I use because of this ;)

[@editsbydaan6048]

@@thomasfransson Thank you!!

[@dimitrimoonlight]

Can you put link the monitor, please 🙏

[@thomasfransson]

www.benq.com/en-us/monitor/designer/pd2700q.html

[@Edin8140]

Hi, how does this monitor display a 1080p or 4k movie?. Thanks

[@thomasfransson]

It's a 16:9 quad hd (QHD) resolution 2560x1440. So slightly more details than a regular FHD monitor and not quite as detailed as a 4K display.

[@ThisIsAbrarKhan]

You and your content just awesome. Love from Pakistan ❤️🙏😘

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you! ❤

[@myfoodcravings6456]

I ran to your video. Is it still great to get this monitor this day? Or benq release a new one but similar to this?

[@thomasfransson]

I still use mine, but they have released newer updated versions as usb-c and things have made their way into the monitor market.

[@publicspeakingconsultant]

I'm very drawn to your vertical monitor to your right. Do you mind telling me what monitor that is please? Thanks

[@thomasfransson]

It's a Dell Ultrasharp, turned on its side;)

[@publicspeakingconsultant]

@@thomasfransson thank you

[@goatedanime6488]

what settings do you use on the monitor and davinci resolve?

[@thomasfransson]

Darkroom and rec.709

[@rajesha7176]

Good Review 👍

[@thomasfransson]

Thanks! 👍

[@stevenwibowo249]

Great video, Thanks

[@thomasfransson]

Glad you liked it! Thank you

[@valquireveljkovic]

thanks for this!

[@thomasfransson]

Thank you

[@estwern]

offtopic: what chair u use?

[@thomasfransson]

It's called Rungsted. Cheap but quite comfortable.

[@framedmoments3712]

How much imp is a 10 bit panel

[@thomasfransson]

If what you do is web based content and the occasional TV commercial and that kind of thing. You don't need a 10bit monitor.

[@JimmyOlsson]

Intressant video, Thomas! Ska kolla närmare på 32 tums QHD versionen av denna skärm! Grymt bra ljus och färg i din video. Vad har du för kamera och studioljus i denna videon?

[@thomasfransson]

Det är helt klart ett bra val! Jag kör Fujifilm xt4 och Godox SL60W som keylight. Sedan är där bara en 5 in1 reflektor som fill.

[@Eye4eye007]

How can I get FCPX and Capture One onto this monitor if I decided to purchase one?

[@thomasfransson]

If you're on Mac you should be able to run fcpx without any problems. And Capture one works great too. The Darkroom Mode on the monitor is excellent for there types of programs.

[@Eye4eye007]

@@thomasfransson oh so I would be connecting my mac to the monitor? My apologies brother lol, no idea how it works, but I really want to utilize the 10bit codecs on my xt4. Great video btw

[@CizzuCizzu]

Thanks! Why only 2k ?

[@thomasfransson]

2K monitor? Well like I said in the video. I had a budget and I wanted as much performance as possible. And I don't consider 4K as important as color accuracy and being able to work in different color spaces for color grading. A 4K monitor with those specs would have been significantly more expensive, especially since it also would have been a 32" monitor to utilize that extra resolution. 4K on a 27" can get very tiny. Just like qhd can look quite course on a 32" display. I hope this makes sense.

[@engineer9528]

What would be the closest 4k 32 inch benq monitor to this one? I am looking for the same as this one in color price-performance for video editing but 4k, 32'' under 1000 USD

Nice, thanks!

[@penkatadrums]

Hey guys, thanks for the reveiw. On all spec sheets I've read it's said that the monitor is 8bit+FRC, rather than true 10 bit. Is that true and if so, have you noticed any difference or flickering or what's that really all about? Thanks. I am looking to buy this monitor :)

[@thomasfransson]

Hi penkara drums! Yes that's true, 8bit and FRC is a budget friendly way to obtain a wider gamut monitor. Not all IPS panels are created equal or suited for color critical work. There's a lot of 144Hz IPS monitors on the market now that are not well suited for this. And that's why this one stands out along with a few others in this price range. Getting a professional or even a semi pro 10bit setup with a real 10bit grading-monitor plus a DeckLink will cost many times more. But it also comes down to what type of work and deliverables you are producing/grading on your monitor. If you're mainly outputting 8bit REC.709 videos for KZbin - Then you will have your monitor set to REC.709 when you're grading for best results. Grading your work in a different color space than your deliverables (viewing source) might result in/making it difficult to catch banding or blocking on the final file. So it all comes down to what type of material and deliverables you are working with and getting a setup that will allow you to view grade in that required standard. Personally I only output to KZbin and other web platforms so this monitor suits me and what I do. In a roundabout way it's similar to the difference between sRGB and Adobe RGB and why an image might not look the same once you publish it to the webs (sRGB) if you've edited it another color space. Hope this makes sense. Thank you.

[@jclokwork]

8bit+FRC drives my brain crazy. I’ll take 8 bit or true 10 bit any day, but I understand it’s existence.

[@mattmellen]

How can i get the same thing but in 4K?

[@thomasfransson]

There's monitors like the PD3205Q that might be an option if 4K is a must.

[@mattmellen]

@@thomasfransson thanks so much! Do both have 10-bit viewing capabilities?

[@sparsh.bharth]

Hey bro i purchased this monitor, what picture mode should I use for accurate color grading rec 709 or srb?

[@thomasfransson]

Nice! In short- Rec709 mode for rec709 and srgb mode for srgb deliverables. I use the darkroom mode a lot as well. If you install display pilot you can have the monitor change to your preferred mode when launching a program. Very handy. I use the dark room mode a lot to.

[@sparsh.bharth]

@@thomasfransson okay bro thanks a lot

[@thomasfransson]

Enjoy your new monitor

[@dev8996]

what about ASUS PROART PA278 QV?

[@thomasfransson]

I haven't tested that one. Sorry.

[@Nanthakishore67]

How would you compare this against Asus ProArt monitor?

[@thomasfransson]

I've not tried those monitors, but people seem happy with them. I guess it comes down to specific features and price, what monitor fits your needs and workflow the best.

[@BennettWilliamson]

Fantastic!

[@thomasfransson]

Many thanks!

[@Oopsiedaisyveryfunny]

Are you still using this monitor?

[@thomasfransson]

Absolutely, I have the same setup today as in the video.

[@Oopsiedaisyveryfunny]

@@thomasfransson Thank you!

[@thomasfransson]

My pleasure

[@rezatalebshekar]

does it have any 4k version ?

[@thomasfransson]

Not this very model, but they have a couple 4K ones as well.

[@hrobertb]

What about having a HDR monitor? Do you think that is necessary?

[@thomasfransson]

I don't think it's necessary. Unless you do a lot of HDR post processing. In my research I found decent HDR monitors to be quite a step up when it came to price. This is because in order for them to produce a decent HDR image they need to be very bright. And a lot of the budget HDR monitors aren't bright enough. So I think it comes down to your needs and budget. I know that some colorists use a Qled tv as a complement for reference HDR content.

[@petrub27]

bullshit, ofc is necessary , you can't afford one, that's a different story; once you see hdr, you just want more; sdr is shit

[@thomasfransson]

😂

[@rurouni_xyz]

where have u been all my life?! i've been looking for budget 10bit monitors but all of them r too damn expensive. even budget 1080p 10bit panel can go a long way instead of dumb 4k which needs expensive pc anyway. native 1080p, 10bit IPS panel is what this world needs for everyone.

[@thomasfransson]

Glad you found me ;) cheers!

[@digtalawesomegroup9978]

Great advise

[@beeldbuijs1003]

As usual, the 8-bit colors are not as blocky as demonstrated in the video. In reality, this is only visible in very specific situations.

[@thomasfransson]

Not quite sure I follow, are you referring to the example pictures illustrating the theoretical difference between 8 and 10 bit? 😅 Anyway, 8 bit i still very much the norm and compression have improved over the years. But can still cause banding on surfaces with gradients if we are sticking with 8bit footage displayed online.

[@beeldbuijs1003]

@@thomasfransson Yes, but the rainbow that is show as an example will not show visible banding. You know that, I know that, but for the audience it's less obvious.

[@thomasfransson]

True, but I think the audience get the general idea. After all it’s about getting information across in a fast matter without sidestepping too far. But your point is still valid and I appreciate you bringing it up.

[@adelalmansoury]

Thanks

[@shoubhiksaha2788]

Thanks ☺☺

[@thomasfransson]

No problem 😊 Thank you

[@Deerob]

It could be worth the consideration to change the title as it’s misleading.

[@thomasfransson]

It's kind of an old video, been meaning to make an updated one as I've learned more since then. Then again, FRC or 10 bit... Most people looking for budget monitors are probably dealing with rec709 deliveries.

[@huberbert]

Sorry, but this monitor is NOT 10 Bit, it is 8 Bit + FRC, which is another level than real 10 Bit

[@thomasfransson]

You are right.

[@stradastudio]

You cut yourself short, you should have told us what you thought about it ,I thought you were very interesting the way you were leading up to a point then... Just keep going.

[@thomasfransson]

Thanks for the feedback, I've been meaning to make a follow up video. Looks like it's about time;)

[@2010Edgars]

Iiyama XU2395 is better. 10 bit = 8bit+frc, IPS.

[@thomasfransson]

Looking at the specs I wouldn't be able to agree. I'm not here to start an argument. But what I can say is that the PD2700Q (if it's still available on the market these days? Video is pretty old and that monitor was old when I made the video...) How ever it is a great monitor for color critical work as it has a rec.709 profile, supports hardware calibration and so forth. If people are looking for a budget monitor chances are they are working with 8bit rec.709 footage and won't be utilizing any other gammuts for their deliverables. Something that may not have been communicated super clearly in this video. But at the same time most people know that rec.709 and sRGB are 8 bit color spaces ;)

[@theminiondude]

fyi this is not a true 10bit monitor for those looking to purchase

[@thomasfransson]

Yes I know

[@winterkat8693]

bro!! your mouse is on the wrong side.. lol

[@thomasfransson]

🤣

[@winterkat8693]

@@thomasfransson Btw thanks for the video. very helpful

[@shajinnambiar2000]

Sw240

[@thomasfransson]

Yes, a more recent one.

[@shajinnambiar2000]

@@thomasfransson you recommend that sw240 ?

[@thomasfransson]

Not used it myself, but the specs looks really good!

[@viahney7200]

Monitoring in 10bit when you actually intend to upload on youtube means you have no ideas how it will look at the end when you're color-grading.

[@thomasfransson]

That's correct, always monitor in the colorspace of the deliverables