Budget Nissan Frontier “LongTravel” Suspension

[@TreeLovinAdventures]

Awesome video. Another solid dump of information. The one thing that may have been missed is if someone wants to keep the R180, they can order CV shafts from a 2014 QX80 and have Titan swap width CV axles that fit the R180.

[@andys_log]

Awesome info I didn’t even think to add!

[@max.b92]

Is this real? Ive never heard this

[@TreeLovinAdventures]

@@max.b92 you betcha

[@franzdemesa5663]

@@TreeLovinAdventuresis it just the cv shaft? Or can I use the whole cv axle of the qx80 for my R180A?

[@TreeLovinAdventures]

@@franzdemesa5663 the whole cv axle works

[@TheOtherSean]

The main reason I went with SPC upper arms for my truck was for ability to push the wheels forward to give more room for the tires while still allowing proper alignment specs. I was able to use the ADO lockout washers maxed out and used the upper arm to set the camber and caster. It is still a ball joint, so I doubt any travel was gained over an OEM arm.

[@andys_log]

I love that the SPC arms do that. I worry that since I was alone talking I wasn’t able to convey 100% of the message I wanted but really the goal was to show you can get good travel out of this truck for cheap and it be reliable. Those SPC arms are legit!

[@TheOtherSean]

@@andys_log it's good to show / have discussion of all ways to titan swap. Like you mentioned, it's easy to think you need to throw cubic dollars at a rig to make it better. If a person was looking at a suspension with a few miles and was buying tie rods and possibly control arms anyway, it's not much more to make it awesome.

[@basscannon762]

7:47 to run the stock differential you use infinity QX80 axles no custom axles needed

[@andys_log]

I would want the added strength of a larger differential. And they are super cheap you can get them for 100-200$ so it’s a no brainer. Your option works well too but when stronger is just as cheap why not!

[@gerrywaddell2998]

Love the shop cat

[@max.b92]

Dude this deep dive into a budget titan swap was wicked to learn about. I thought a titan swap wouldent of made sense for me until now. Only hard part sounds like switching out the front diffs on the floor. i would want to run stock parts for sure rather then custom 1 off half axles

[@thedude828-ed2nn]

It is better to do a front diff swap to the m205 the r180 is not bulletproof the cv axles on it are also a weak point but it does work fine.

[@max.b92]

@thedude828-ed2nn on 33's with qx80 axles on the r180 wont be bulletproof as in what sense?

[@thedude828-ed2nn]

​​@@max.b92i think i read your comment wrong my bad but i was just saying the m205 is a better way to go im actually titan swapped but i have the r180 running qx80 axles and they have been fine so far. My dilemma is my truck is a king cab i have a m226 with a locker but my truck didn't have it originally my m226 came off a older 2wd nismo off-road so it and my truck are geared with 3.13 gears so for me to get the m205 i have to regear my truck which blew my budget up big time because i dont trust myself to do gearing i installed my rear axle and titan swap kit but ive never done gearing so im gonna have to pay a shop to do that which sucks. But the m205 is a stronger diff and the axles are supposed to be stronger than the qx80 shafts from what ive heard but they are easier to change out too.

[@max.b92]

@thedude828-ed2nn nice thanks for the knowledge. and your truck is awesome. so regarding running frontier front struts on a titan swap, assuming they make titan swap specific struts, what issies can arise from running lets say a bilstein 4600 with a 2 inch spacer with a titan swap in the long run? like shock bottoming out, control arm binding or anything?

[@rickrdz276]

I need a link for those brake lines please

[@BrwnShinobi]

Thanks for sharing!! Love the fact you pointed out the upper control arm is also stock Titan and you don't have coil bucket. I am currently piecing my titan swap suspension for my Xterra

[@BrwnShinobi]

Thank you for mentioning the stock strut + spacer as well!

[@BrwnShinobi]

Do you have Titan or Frontier Knuckle on there?

[@shaymcquaid]

Thanks!

[@anthanosios.taraviras5218]

I did the swap and I put stock coil overs with a spacer and it dropped my front almost to my wheel wells you need the bigger shocks

[@andys_log]

Not everyone has desired results depending on parts used. Glad you figured it out!

[@bannedtwice7767]

You should swap a vk56 v8 from the titan as well. It is a simple-ish swap as well.

[@andys_log]

Lol

[@Pooooooops]

Are you sure he should?

[@thedude828-ed2nn]

I'm pretty sure he's already done it.

[@scott2600]

Awesome thanks for the info. Exactly what I was looking for. Any info on a the budget rear lift to level it? Some rear info would be much appreciated.

[@thedude828-ed2nn]

Just get a add a leaf and some new shackles and you will be good if you're trying to keep it cheap. Oh yeah and some 1.5 in wheel spacers if you want to keep it looking even with the front.

[@trevorleeanderson]

Do you need titan/armada spindles? Can you use 4wd spindles (titan/armada) on a 2wd Frontier? Thanks! Great video!

[@gerrymoritz3566]

Great Content. Andy where are you located?

[@mikemorgan4670]

Very useful information. Thanks for sharing. Steering knuckle is same as well?

[@andys_log]

The steering knuckle between the Titan and the frontier dimensions are the same but the hub pattern is different!

[@kalobbettis9197]

So with this budget T-swap I could use stock frontier coilovers with a 2-2.5 in spacer and some adjustable cam bolts and be somewhat aligned/ lifted? I would do it for science, but atm it is my daily 😂

[@andys_log]

Correct. Keep in mind the more you lift the more you will need adjustment. So if you plan to lift over 2-3” you absolutely will need aftermarket upper control arms and should run a coil over

[@dahatchery]

So what should I do to extend my front brake lines?

[@richardcarnahan6335]

Hey, quick question. Where can I find a locking rear differential for a reasonable price. I was given a rebuilt R-180 with the 3.36 gear ratio but can’t find a decent price on the locking rear differential. I know I could change out the ring & pinion. But would rear like to have the locker

[@jaybuilder8298]

What about brakes and struts from a Titan?

[@franzdemesa5663]

This Nissan Frontier is the D40 correct? Because I believe the D40's front IFS is also similar to the D23 NP300

[@andys_log]

Yea D40 but I don’t know 100% if that IFS system is the same I’ve never worked on it before.

[@franzdemesa5663]

@@andys_log thank you. I’ll do my research about this. But in my initial research, the D40’s stock upper and lower control arms are compatible with the Nissan D23. Even the upper ball joints are the same. Is the Titan’s upper ball joint also same as the D40’s?

[@mayhem-ish]

i just bought a 2014 sv 2.5L and i already want to put in some better suspension and your videos really help. i mechanically retarded but i can do simple shit so thanks

[@joshbaker5958]

So for my 11 frontier I can buy 11 Titan arms and rods then put my +2 struts in? With the QX axles of course.

[@dahatchery]

How durable will it be with stock parts? I have a stock 2016 desert runner. Could I use my stock billstiens?

[@dr.batts9025]

What brake hose do I need to purchase?

[@keepitreal5148]

These company like King and blahh blahh charges an arm and a leg for long travel

[@andys_log]

And they are worth it! But they are expensive. You just have to do your research and really have a good understanding of what you are jumping into before pulling the trigger.

[@jcvigh8453]

I don't see the sway bar? Is there a way?

[@andys_log]

Yep. Just run titan sway bar. If lifted for sure run after market extended links.

[@minutemenapparel]

If I already have a lift kit (coilover), could I just run that without the spacer?

[@andys_log]

You’ll need to measure and confirm but you should be able to.

[@dahatchery]

So I really want t to do this to my 2016 frontier desert runner. One question is that I also want to put leveling spacers on to give me a 2” additional lift. Is that possible? I’d like a 6” suspension lift, with the 4” Titan swap. Could I get longer radflow shocks that would help me achieve this?

[@andys_log]

What I was talking about here is a budget travel. You need to specify “hack job” in your searching criteria and I bet you can better find the answer you are looking for

[@dahatchery]

Are you serious? I’m asking an honest question. Is it possible?

[@andys_log]

I think you can do Spindles on a 2wd, then with a titan suspension swap that will allow you to run a larger coilover. You’ll have to speak to someone that’s done that specific setup to find out the sizing

[@marco4081]

@@dahatcheryi think you need a drop bracket for that, anything past 3 inch lift and the cv could bind at full droop. I have a 6 inch rc lift but im pulling it off and going for 2.5 inch titan swap.

[@dahatchery]

@@marco4081 my truck isn’t 4wd. I know that all I would need is CST 4” lift spindles and because of that perhaps run the Titan upper control arms and a 2” spacer lift. That should give a good 6” total lift, install the Titan lowers control arms when I’m ready for an additional 3-4” lift for a nice prerunner look .

[@dahatchery]

How would you even things up in the back?

[@andys_log]

Leaf springs!!

[@kevinyung1743]

Wait, do I need to titan swap my spindle?

[@andys_log]

No.

[@aaronzeigler1332]

My question is if ur lifting it say 3 in will u be eating tires like in doing now with stock uca

[@andys_log]

I specifically didn’t touch on that because every setup is different. If you are on this setup on 3inches with a good alignment you should be fine. If you are 3 or more on this setup you might have to get an aftermarket upper for more adjustment. That extra inch of lift won’t do as much as you’d like off-road. Trust me lol

[@aaronzeigler1332]

@@andys_log I'm limited on lift do to living in Pa 3inch is the max without knowing the local judge 😂😆😂 I bought the truck with 2.5 lift and stock uca and went to spc upper and I still chew through tires still

[@andys_log]

Sounds like you are lifting on stock arms. Not on the extended travel Titan suspension arms I am talking about in the video.

[@aaronzeigler1332]

@@andys_log yes lifting stick titen arms can have the same effect just not as bad

[@andys_log]

@@aaronzeigler1332if you are on stock titan arms it sounds like you are lifting beyond what it’s capable of. Lower it a little so it saves your tires and you can get more time on the trail. No one gets a trophy for being the most lifted truck

[@gustavoveliz4008]

Not long travel lol mid travel

[@andys_log]

In the context of what we are doing it is a long travel setup. It’s not a high speed desert racing long travel no.

[@daymianhayes2493]

Just buy a Jeep

[@andys_log]

Not everyone likes ducks

[@bannedtwice7767]

Chrysler ruined Jeep...

[@beardumaw24]

Jeeps suck ! I've had 6 of them and some very "nice" ones they all have the crappy Chrysler electronics and they all break down way more often than most other vehicles, stay with the Xterras or Toyotas !