Buell Super Cruiser! Cruiser or Super Bike?

[@Osyrus48]

It’s still a V-twin. By nature they’re torquey bikes just like boxer engines. If you watch Chase on 2 wheels review about the hammer head (which should be tuned sportier than this) he even says how this 1190 doesnt feel like the typical high rev’ing sport bikes. Instead, it’s more torque and carries that power through the range. That’s what makes me want this SC even more. I’ve sat on this bike in SoCal and it feels premium. Just hope they clean up the wiring and lines for final production. I’l just swap the exhaust and im set. Cant wait to get mine.

[@1190Shellback]

@@Osyrus48 that makes a lot of sense. I’ll have to check that video out. Thanks. From what I’m able to gather it should cruise around 7000 RPMs and then really start to pull from 8500 all the way up to 11 K! What I really like to see somebody do as a review of different exhaust, this will be the first time the sound of it is the most important thing to me. I think we got HP to spare on this one! And was it the tuning or did they remove a couple of the injectors? Anyway, yeah, that and then mirrors signals and possibly the tail light and license plate mounting. Other than that, I definitely need a set of pegs up front, which is funny because there was a time when I said, you’d never catch me with a set of highway pegs, but that was a long time ago Before I really did any long range rides. Interested see what they come out with for bags and may get a mid sissy for the passenger. She deserves it, been sitting on a p-pad on rigid!

[@Osyrus48]

@ Heard about the injectors being removed on this SC. And the rake angle being “dumbed down” to make it more of a cruiser. Im sure others can modify to improve on those but 175hp stock is more than enough for me on the streets. I’ll never make use of all that horsepower if im being honest. And that even with the “dumbed down” handling it’ll still handle better than any harley on the market. So exhaust is the only mod im still looking to do. This means cheaper than if i buy a low rider s which will need more than a pipe swap for me.

[@1190Shellback]

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[@Rem700R5MN]

I was disappointed to hear about the change from the perimeter brake too, I hope it will be offered as an option. I am not the least bit concerned about replacing front brake parts on a road trip. If you have front brake problems you pull the caliper off, wire it to your tree and go on with your life. Nobody who can’t figure that out should be on 2 wheels. I am glad to hear about Fox Factory making the suspension but I’m used to replacing stock setups of any kind as they by definition have to be a one size fits most item, and a good setup for an individual can always do better than that. Overall I’m looking forward to it and I really hope this comes to fruition. The USA needs a major competitor to force our two main manufacturers to step up their games.

[@1190Shellback]

@@Rem700R5MN we won’t know till we know, but Bill Melvin did say you could upgrade to Ohlins if you wanted to, so I don’t see why that Buell perimeter brake wouldn’t be offered as well. That’s another one to file in the “we’ll see“ category. As for the roadside repair, as a long time rider and commercial driver I’ve made my share of them and you’re right but after considering it I do prefer parts with the largest pool of replacement options so the loss isn’t really an issue for me. Appreciate your thoughts👍

[@nbowling10trio]

It's both, it made it's own new category super cruiser... i will buy a Buell, it's American made. Looks like Harley gonna be made in Thailand

[@1190Shellback]

@@nbowling10trio exactly, current HD plan is to go electric too. Those are the reasons I am glad to be selling my Harley and getting a Buell.

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

Is it owned by BlackRock and vanguard like Harley is?

[@1190Shellback]

@ Not yet.

[@USARAY1947]

Look up Yamaha Road Star Warrior 1700 to see the first supercruiser.

[@1190Shellback]

@ I’m sure it’s a great bike I’m just not interested in foreign cruisers. Dirt bikes is a different story but on the street I’m only interested in American iron.

[@leward]

Whatever category the Ducati Diavel and Triumph Rocket 3 are in, the Buell Supercruiser fits in there.

[@1190Shellback]

@@leward yeah I don’t think it’s in the same category as the triumph at all, and now that I’ve taken a closer look at that duc, aside from having two wheels and a ton of hp, that’s not really comparable either. IMO

[@danielflorio7728]

Its both I dont like it at first but now it is growing on me the thing is bad ass

[@1190Shellback]

@ lol yeah same here, that swing arm was an immediate turn off for me and until I took a longer look into the parts where they came from and then who put them together. Like you said it grew on me and yes, it is bad ass.👍

[@alexdetagxi8148]

I just hope they make it into full production at the right price range i would definitely stop buying HD, HOWEVER, EB HISTORY FAILED TOO MANY A TIMES BUT THE NEW CEO SEEMS TO HAVE A OPTIMAL FUTURE GRIP TO IT.

[@1190Shellback]

@@alexdetagxi8148 $25,900. Whether or not that’s right/good price really depends on what you want out of your bike/ride. If you’re into high performance it’s on point! If you like all of the comfort type bells and whistles and flashy looking parts, it’s probably not the best choice for you. IMO

[@EvendimataE]

that is exactly what i want. now a have a magna because i want the cruiser style. then i have a hornet because i want the naked bike performance. the only problem is i dont have $20k+ to spend on a toy....LOL

[@1190Shellback]

@@EvendimataE I hear you I really like the naked bikes but I’ve never considered my motorcycles as toys and even if I did, you know what when we really want something, we find a way.

[@1190Shellback]

@@EvendimataE life is short, don’t cheat yourself! 👍

[@icyGrip666]

It's way more of a curser than a super bike. But hey it should be fun.

[@1190Shellback]

@@icyGrip666 are you saying it’s more cruiser than super bike or did you mean “curser”? Either way, please explain I’m genuinely interested.

[@icyGrip666]

@1190Shellback i was saying it's more of a cruiser. Will this thing have bad ass performance no doubt. But from my understanding a cruiser is about the positioning of the rider and kind of the style. Considering what I've seen people do with there harely's at this point you can obviously make them fast or stunt bikes and they can obviously do more than just long rides. But if you put this bike next to a ducati penagali or my rsv4 factory I'm pretty sure most riders or normies would identify it as a cruiser. I'm not taking anything away from this bike I think it's very cool. The super sport version of it may hit that more because of its style. Ether way hope this better explains my opion.

[@1190Shellback]

@ Loud and clear my friend, I’m just stuck knowing it’s pretty much the Hammerhead in a cruiser style frame. Ergonomically a cruiser, no doubt, but performance-wise… @throttleblip told me earlier today that the Super Cruiser has 50 degrees lean angle! That’s 100% Super Sport territory. Although I will say this, somebody mentioned the arch, I forgot what model, but anyway, they mention the arch as a comparable bike, and when I went to their website to check it out, they were calling it an “American Performance Cruiser.” I can concede that it belongs in a cruiser category but I don’t think I’ll ever see it as way more cruiser than sport for all of the above reasons.

[@adnanlatif9007]

Reminds me of Arch KRGT-1 or looks very similar

[@1190Shellback]

@@adnanlatif9007 had to look it up, “American Performance Cruiser”, very nice bike!

[@alexdetagxi8148]

ARCH MOTOR IS MORE OF A CAFE RACER

[@1190Shellback]

@ I’m first to admit I’m not up to speed on all of the categories but I thought cafe bike had that more aggressive forward leaning race position, more like a sports bike?

[@echevarriawilson]

Looks like A Low Rider S

[@1190Shellback]

@@echevarriawilson mmmm not seeing it. Okay tbh yes there’s similarities but also very different.

[@Whisky148]

That radiator is a eye sore

[@1190Shellback]

@@Whisky148 I probably would’ve said the same thing before I moved to Arizona. Now it looks like a cool drink of water!

[@Jimmy_Jim_Jim_1234]

If i can, i will trade my HD in on one.

[@1190Shellback]

@@Jimmy_Jim_Jim_1234 copy that, mine is for sale right now.😂 You better get that $50 deposit in ASAP though!

[@UnapologeticAhole]

Put a Moto GP rider on it,and get his opinion.

[@1190Shellback]

@@UnapologeticAhole most of the parts are from Buell Hammerhead, designed by Erik Buell, Champion Road Racer. Super Cruiser designed by Roland Sands, also Champion Road Racer. You can also look up the Super Cruiser “track day”. It’s pretty much a Super Bike.

[@UnapologeticAhole]

@1190Shellback the person in the videos riding the bike wouldn't know one way or the other, a professional would.

[@1190Shellback]

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[@EvendimataE]

in cyling they created a new category, gravel bike.....in the motorcycle industry its time to make a new category, SUPSER

[@mfabrizius]

When they comin out to the people

[@1190Shellback]

@@mfabrizius 3rd quarter 2025 is the word. We’ll see!

[@Rem700R5MN]

@@1190Shellback3rd quarter of 2025 is pretty optimistic I think, no doubt there will be setbacks before they start full production. They are supposed to fill the pre-orders first. I am one of the pre-orders, I hope to see mine by summer 2026.

[@1190Shellback]

@ right there with you on the preorder waitlist and fingers crossed hopeful for 2025 release. We’ll see.

[@georgearcher5696]

It's a muscle cruiser as is the sportser s Ducati diavel rocket 3

[@1190Shellback]

@ yeah these categories and terms are new to me. I’ve never really had a need to define a cruiser so specifically, but now my question is is a muscle cruiser and a power cruiser the same thing or are those separate categories?

[@cdrbews]

Its a muscle cruiser similar to the Triumph Rocket 3 or the Ducati Diavel

[@1190Shellback]

@@cdrbews I could see it fitting into a category called “muscle cruiser“ but I can’t see the Super Cruiser or the Ducati in the same category as the Triumph Rocket.

[@1190Shellback]

@@cdrbews all right so I just looked up “muscle cruiser” and this is the definition I found, “The term is a bit vague and hard to describe, but essentially, it is any motorcycle that features a large engine and a single focus: acceleration. This is why most muscle motorcycles are cruisers, or as some would like to call them, power cruisers.” so my hang up with that definition or category is calling the super cruiser a motorcycle with a single focus on acceleration. Yes it has a “large motor“ but with that definition, I think of the triumph rocket or that guy slapping v8 motors into “cruisers”. With that definition, I don’t see the super cruiser fitting into that category.

[@stuartstogdill2406]

It is far better than both of those bikes... not even in the same category.

[@1190Shellback]

@ I agree

[@1190Shellback]

@ vastly different anyway that’s for sure but if you had to pick one of the existing categories, I guess that’s a contender sort of

[@kawaman2192]

as said,Ducati Diavel anyone....muscle cruiser

[@1190Shellback]

@@kawaman2192 uh… whot?

[@kawaman2192]

the Buell is nice ,but a sports bike motor in a cruiser type chassis is not exactly a new idea.

[@1190Shellback]

@ what is comparable? Serious question, if there’s a cruiser, that’s comparable I’m not aware of of it.

[@kawaman2192]

@@1190Shellback 2011 ducati diavel carbon,1198cc 160bhp,95 torque L twin motor in a cruiser type package.Have you not heard of them?

[@1190Shellback]

@ I have but it’s not what you wrote. The sentence you wrote was confusing to me. Now I see what you were saying.

[@BEDbMAK1]

I know beauty is very subjective... but it looks horrible. Almost like home made custom motorcycle, dunno guys...

[@1190Shellback]

@@BEDbMAK1 Beauty is very subjective. Some guys want a bike with all the comforts of a car heated grips seat, floorboards, luggage, racks windshield, bedazzled, coffee, mug… Some guys like choppers stripped down, bare bones, fiery rippers. Some guys want comfort some guys want Performance. Whatever you think about the way it looks there’s no denying, this bike is unrivaled in performance in the cruiser world.

[@BEDbMAK1]

@1190Shellback personally I like old full metal cruisers. Like yamaha raider 1900, VTX1800, older harlyes, etc. This one looks... For me it just not cool. It looks like smth that was build of leftovers from someone's garage.

[@1190Shellback]

@ yeah you lost me at Yamaha but to each his own.

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

Agree 100 percent. Looks like a Sportster. I don't like it.

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

​@@1190Shellback Fyi, Nothing you listed has to do with looks. It looks like a Sportster and I've never liked sportsters.

[@GeorgeEdmonds-v7e]

Ugly bike.

[@1190Shellback]

@@GeorgeEdmonds-v7e We can agree to disagree on that. what do you consider a good looking bike?

[@GeorgeEdmonds-v7e]

@@1190ShellbackDon't get me wrong it's a badass bike.But it's all mechanical and no aesthetics,in my opinion.And if you must know I ride a 2015 Indian Chief Vintage.

[@1190Shellback]

@ nice bike and I get it. So the bikes are different almost like the difference between looking at a retro styled American car vs looking at a stock car. Both outstanding in their own way but if you’re into classics and car shows you might not think much of stock car aesthetics. I’d your into high speed performance and handling though that stock car is a work of art! It’s all relative.

[@mariuss.6607]

It's a $25k ugly bike

[@1190Shellback]

@ what are you on?

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

It's ugly.

[@1190Shellback]

@@DingleBerryschnapps that’s an opinion just curious what do you ride or what do you consider a great looking bike.