The Victory electric motorcycle that no one wants to talk about

[@codysavage91]

They are all at their Boston warehouse with thousands of other machines I can take a picture Monday when I get 0:57 to work if you want

[@sunsetoriginals7320]

Are they available for sale?

[@500ccRabbit]

​@@sunsetoriginals7320I hope not

[@sunsetoriginals7320]

​@@500ccRabbitlol.

[@campfirestories744]

I want one, I can get to Boston’s easy

[@trappster48]

I’ll subscribe if u post a short of it

[@arthurtuxedo]

Great video, Shaun! I talked to a guy that owned the Brammo one, and he loved it. It made me want one. As usual, I see a lot of anti-electric comments from people who've never owned or ridden one. Well I have, and they're awesome. I love my FJR1300, but the low-down torque doesn't even begin to compare to my old Energica, and the FJR has 100 ft/lbs of torque. I get that people love their gas bikes, hey, I do too! But you can't hate on someone's dream ride if you claim to love motorcycling, because motorcycling is about freedom of choice. I like a quick sport-tourer or adventure bike and will probably never be in the market for a track bike or a two-stroke dirt bike, but you don't see me bashing those bikes in comment threads. I love that people are having so much fun with them, even if it's a type of bike that doesn't interest me, personally. When people who claim to love motorcycles can't stop criticizing other riders, it brings us all down.

[@billtisdale6122]

I’ve ridden the Zero electric motorcycle. No clutch, no shifting, about equivalent to a 750cc for the ride.

[@RideFaster]

i had the zero sr/f for a couple years.....i smoked every single bike to 100 mph including Teslas....sold it... and miss it....

[@arthurtuxedo]

The Energicas were even better. I still miss my SS9.

[@karlbishop7481]

All the electric naysayers should try one. I was given a Zero as a loaner when my Guzzi was getting it's first service. I loved it but pretty expensive at the time. I wouldn't have an electric bike for the riding I do but for local riding sign me up but costs need to come down a bit more.

[@Motosportz]

So I worked at Trail Tech in Battle Ground WA which was a subsidiary of Polaris. We built the gauges. We had three of these in the lot. I rode them several times. I was not wild over them. A clutch you don't need, shifting you don't really need and not all that fast. I liked how it handled and it had a nice feel to it but did not excite me.

[@garycordle5295]

I myself would not want one, but that's just me, I like something that you can actually work on or takes gas, I think I would be happy with the old road king,👍Sean thanks for the message 🙏

[@easternbiker47]

Why couldn't you work on this? Tons of people, myself included, build and work on electric bikes (and cars). It just takes a different skill set and understanding, but its no harder than working on a v-twin. Just because it is different doesn't mean you can't do. I am not saying this part directed at you in particular, but far too many gear heads are afraid of what they don't know.

[@mattcleary9522]

I want a electric bike for commuting but I can't drop 20k on a bike as a shade tree mechanic when I can rebuild a Facebook marketplace bike for under a grand

[@tonyaguilar4538]

#bigfacts

[@shanethrelfall416]

It's ok to like both electric and combustion engines

[@scottlin777]

I think putting a gear box and clutch lever on that makes all the difference.

[@IceTTom]

Yet he doesn't even use them most of the video?? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@3089280288]

6 speeds are not needed for an e bike

[@truantray]

It makes no sense. There is no reason to shift.

[@erikrummel6277]

I sold those. They are actually/originally Brammo. The same company that produce the USA market Ariel Atom. They are awesome bikes. Much more of a motorcycle than the zero. Not knocking the zero, it’s cool, but the Empulse is way more of a classic motorcycle experience than the zero. The Zero is cool, but it’s much more akin to a twist and go scooter. -and after I posted this, he said all the same crap lol. Oh well. I guess I just confirmed it.

[@jimhashbrowns3874]

I’m all for taking some park space in larger cities and putting a track for electric dirt bikes there. Electric has its place and it’s in more crowded areas where noise issues kill any sort of moto fun.

[@michaelblankenship548]

I'm with you on the gearbox. I don't understand why nobody wants to put gears on electric motorcycles. It seems logical to me that if you use gears to keep the motor speed down, you will get much more range. Maybe someone can explain why that doesn't click with these manufacturers. I was really interested in the CSC RX-1E, but when I looked into insurance for it, they wanted to charge me $900 a year. That's insane. So many of these electric motorcycle manufacturers seem to be targeting city commuting rather than any kind of highway riding. Without gears to slow down the motor at highway speeds, you're just burning away the charge. It doesn't make sense.

[@ebikeengineer]

It's a gorgeous looking E Moto IMHO. The only other one that comes close is the Zero FX. I like the idea of a gearbox on the bike. Low gears for improving the torque, with the higher gears for conserving the battery. It makes perfect engineering sense.

[@ashveratu]

The Empulse is a great bike for what it is. I owned a 2014 Brammo Empulse for over 6 years and over 15k miles with no issues. I then sold her to a collector in PA (still running great). My current bike an Energica SS9....and now Energica is bankrupt.

[@jiovaniloncarevic]

The former Brammo factory in Talent Oregon now belongs to Cummins Battery Systems. There's probably somone still working there from when it was still Brammo, maybe with some working knowledge. I'd look into it!

[@Midnightmotovlogs]

I’m just happy to hear the words of wisdom and the “where you’re going” outro, iconic Sean stuff 👍

[@brentdoutre144]

Does the gearbox increase the range?

[@tokyojrock]

Brammo, Craig was bought out by Polaris. I rode the original prototype Brammo in Portland in 2007 with my friend from MotoCorsa. The original sales were sold at Best Buy!

[@Oldbmwr100rs]

We had a Brammo demo bike we were holding for Best buy for when someone wanted to test ride one. Pile of crap, this one was more a moped size and style, had little range and it kept having problems. Best part is when it had another problem, A tech from Brammo had to drive from Oregon to Mountain View California to fix it. I rode it, went a couple miles and it was almost too weak to make it back, it wasn't charging, they fixed that, then when the sidestand went up, the bike would shut off. They fixed that. By that time I was wishing the pile of crap would just go away and stop taking space on our sales floor, after all, we were asked to do this as a favor. I doubt anyone outside of shop employees ever looked at it.

[@MegaCasualty]

i hope you find it in your heart to purchase a stark varg would be cool to get your impression

[@dougkennedy4906]

Do they spontaneously cumbust like the Chinese counter parts?

[@16driver16]

Combust... what you said is something very different😂

[@cj4ebay]

@@16driver16 lmao

[@cj4ebay]

god I sure hope not

[@RedesCat]

Cumbust

[@charlesskelton4058]

The gears sound and look like they feel good under battery power. Like it

[@denox420]

the alpinestars touring dad jacket is sick!

[@justinbreedlove8835]

A lot of things have a higher top speed on a Dyna. That's because there's no air holding it back when it's riding on the street

[@DennisTheMenace5150]

I test rode a Brammo Impulse R when they were around. Very exciting!!!

[@davidmatthews3093]

The horsepower should be pretty irrelevant, it’s the torque that makes electric vehicles accelerate so fast.

[@ZombieKiller1965]

Then it has shit torque too.

[@kamenrob8500]

​@@ZombieKiller1965it's stock.... Give someone that knows what they're doing access to the controller motor battery etc and you'd be amazed at what these electric bikes can do.

[@bradbarber4875]

"Satches" suspension.....Good one Sean!

[@terrancearnold8530]

Do you really pick that back ground music? love yer sho...

[@billsomerset238]

I must have missed something. What does that tachometer measure

[@ericduckman3135]

I have no desire for an electric car but do want a hybrid. I would definitely take one of these off their hands to free up warehouse space.

[@16driver16]

The torque and regen braking would be nice.

[@mws3779]

Some months back, I saw a used LiveWire for sale at Road Track & Trail in Big Bend, WI. I thought about it for a moment but only a moment. Just the thought of the support this bike will have in the future I thought NOPE and moved on.

[@abelincoln3261]

More then likely that was part of a cooling system... for battery. May have a warmer to for winter charging...

[@ctsnider88]

Nice job fixing the mirror while you were home charging the bike. 😅 still haven't converted me to electric.

[@tashahubbard5104]

There's 2 currently for sale on cycle trader one in MN for a little over 6k and one in Midlothian TX for 5k

[@connorbaji]

Id love to see how far you could go if you strap the bluetti to the back and rig up some solar panels

[@blitzrc4713]

I would have thought they'd have a storage charge feature if leaving sitting for any period of time leave it with 2/3 charge or you WILL ruin the battery

[@gregorymcnear6474]

I think this would definitely be the transition step to electric 🤔

[@travisc231]

Just think though....HDs Live Wire came out in 2021....how much better electric motorcycles could have been if the R&D continued in that between space of 5 years.

[@Srkcycles]

Yes

[@caldeio]

Oh someone riding a CRF450 next??? OOOO WWWEEE!!

[@MCTeck]

Does that bike make "Noise Warning" like an electric car does? The other day, I was almost hit by an electric scooter in a busy supermarket parking lot. That scooter was silent!

[@marsrover001]

Nope. That regulation is for cars, and even so this was made before that regulation went into effect.

[@MultiTelan]

I have a feeling battery powered stuff would be a tad more welcome had the manual transmission been much more available as an option.

[@richiecortez]

Without the clutch n gears it takes a lot of the fun out of riding if you ask me

[@DigitalPlaygroundTV]

You should try the Ryvid Anthem, is a very well built fast electric bike.

[@mrfixitman75]

Seat should slid up or fold out to expose solar charging station. Also front bumper, top of tank amd rear seat. All should have an option for extended range that way. I own those ideas. 😂

[@danharbun483]

Like normal combustion engines mire gear more efficient mpg will be so having 6 gears on a electric motor has got to be a good thing for miles per kilowatt.would like to know what this machine can do. I dont know why electric cars have 1 or 2 gears other than cost to make a 6 speed electric box.

[@DannyNeal-g8y]

Wow, Sean, looks like you just sold a boatload of electric bikes to all those people who've been sitting on the fence over their convenience and practicality! As long as you have a friend with a trailer to follow you!

[@perry92964]

this is a really cool bike, i would get one but not on that frame, i'll wait for a cruiser, one thats a low rider and with no big engine i'll bet they could make one with a 22 inch seat height or lower.

[@cedhome7945]

Don't park that thing next to the rest of your bikes, unless you're heavily insured for fire. Can't imagine going anywhere across country on an EV. Probably OK if you live in town or city but not in the sticks.

[@16driver16]

Regular motorcycles NEVER CATCH FIRE?!😂

[@sbh344]

Said the blacksmith to the driver of one them new goddammed horseless carriage contraptions

[@nyccollin]

@@16driver16Correct.

[@16driver16]

@nyccollin I've seen several old bikes burn down just sitting there from old wiring that broke, short circuited and caught fire, the gasoline then combusts... it's exactly the same... regular bike is far more likely to explode when you are riding it and it gets very hot, one drip of gasoline and boom!

[@davidmatthews3093]

I suggest you do some research and hopefully that will stop you spreading misinformation. An EV is far less likely to catch fire than an ICE vehicle. Every single source from fire brigade information up confirms that. You might not want an EV but please don’t tell lies to try to prove your superiority, you are no more than a joke.

[@stevetaylor9265]

I am looking forward to electric motorcycles just as soon as the battery tech gets better. .I need at least 100 miles of range to do normal things much less play time.

[@71spazz]

I was at my Orange county Indian dealer and I saw one in the parking lot it had a note saying not for sale and penske. Gray and black. I have a picture of the note that was on it but this won't let me post it.

[@71spazz]

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[@ward0517]

I was in the area coming back from Georgia, was going to swing by the shop but it was 6 or so and traffic was backed up all the way to 840.

[@critical]

I double dare you to try and charge it on that, I think it wants too many amps, but I could be wrong

[@tuxplorer]

If I understand it correctly I need the adapter to charge it. If this is true, I can not charge the bike while riding. I would have to transport the adapter in a backpack. Which is very annoying.

[@nxdboi]

Have you tried the Varg yet? If not, you HAVE to.

[@amiaddicteddiecastrc1557]

brushless motors have 100 percent torque through the entire rpm range

[@katywalker8322]

Torque reduces with rpm. Pretty much in a straight line

[@torkd14]

Have you taken up doing coke lately? The white sunglasses are throwing some vibes man. 🤣 love the vids!

[@awdeveau]

I would like to see a real world top speed test. I'll bet it's closer to the 100mph than it is to the 136mph the dyno showed. Simply based on wind resistance. When Cleetus put Leroy in the wind tunnel without the new body it showed he was using around 800hp just to maintain speed on the big end. Granted Leroy is shaped like a brick without it's body on and will have a whole lot more drag than a motorcycle. But I could still see 20mph or more lost vs the dyno test. Would be interesting to see gps speed, for no other reason than curiosity.

[@davidsizemore2745]

Sean you should ride that more often. Batteries like that just sitting will destroy it. Give it away or sell it to someone who will ride it.

[@sunsetoriginals7320]

If you find the stash of them, let me know. I'd like one!

[@errickkitchin36]

Idk why manufactures of both ev cars and bikes don't put transmissions behind the motor. It makes sense to keep the ev motor turning at a optimum rpm for efficiency regardless of vehicle speed. EVs due worse on the highway due to the motor being wound out. Give it a transmission that can drop the motor rpm while holding speed and watch the range sky rocket.

[@rogerbuesing9374]

E-Bikes OK…have one and I can pedal or add assist from the motor…I don’t want assist on my motorcycle…I want the ENGINE to do the work and take me on a ride ALL day without having to charge it 🤪. Do love the sound of the Victory E-Motorcycle though…wait…huh?!? 😝

[@stephenp8644]

Just like cars, an electric car has its specific need and use... but they are not for everyone. The main reason the government wants us using electric vehicles is because they can control and regulate the electric companies. An electric motor is similar to a gas engine, the faster the motor spins, the more electricity it uses. I think a DCT or something similar would be better for speed and range. Everyone made fun of the Honda when they announced the DCT for its Africa Twin and Goldwing. The Goldwing DCT outsells the manual gearbox version two-to-one.

[@haveric24]

Hey Sean you should ride an Energica now those bikes are real stupid fast

[@kyleroden5814]

You can always count on sean releasing a video 3 hours later after craig either on bikes and beards or srk cycles

[@Srkcycles]

Im usually before him

[@kyleroden5814]

Lol I'm here for it either way just glad to see consistent content

[@kyleroden5814]

Watching this video as we speak seen craigs auction video this morning

[@philipjames9558]

As a child i always enjoyed the electric vehicles that i owned (rc cars). Even at a young age i had charging anxiety and hated be limited by the batteries. As an adult i choose to avoid this. A five minute trip to the pump and I'm on the road again

[@16driver16]

Rc cars are moving away from nitro and into electric more and more, because they do not haul large loads it's ideal.

[@RobsNeighbor]

Wow! What a blast! I want one!

[@gh0stm0nst3r6]

When did he crash?

[@Paulfarmer-en4vh]

The 250 volt is for UK. 5:57

[@vincedibona4687]

Oh, one of those countries that has yet to go to the moon. Got it. 👍🏻

[@hb4541]

@@vincedibona4687 Yeah, we didn't need to pretend to go to the moon.

[@cayminlast]

The title of this video should have the last three words erased, and then it would make sense.

[@jasonking9401]

😂

[@xcool182skaterx]

Should been gey vid

[@davidmatthews3093]

Speak for yourself not others.

[@davidmatthews3093]

@@xcool182skaterxPlease can you translate this into English.

[@Ramenscooter]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@marcbrasse747]

I rode a Brammo Empulse R early this year. I was actually quite impressed by it but, just like this very similar Polaris rehash, it has a quite underdeveloped drivetrain. The play is rediculous, feeling like you ride an ICE with bad real wheel cushdampers. Real world range is more like 90 km/h / 50 miles. The one I rode clearly had a mechanical problem (clutch, clutch master cylinder or even the gearbox itself) so I didn’t buy it. 3 weeks ago I bought an Energica Esseesse9 which is completely in another class. But with its relatively low power and gearbox the Brammo was actually more my thing. What, among other things, made the Energica affordable? It is now also in trouble! Motorcyclist are just too conservative.

[@cageyveteran]

5:05 I've seen you on that Honda trail 125

[@tomofnorthcal]

I think I saw an ad for a Brammo last month

[@SyThco13]

Victory better get back to proper motorcycles, because I've seen some moded Victory bikes that are incredible. Victory has a bad reputation for underpowered bikes but they could fix that. Like the honda valkyrie; the flat 6, discontinued except for the goldwing, detuned... what happened to original bikes, incredible engines, now everything either kinda sucks, baby's you to a flaw, or it's electric...

[@tjroelsma]

Well, do you really NEED much more power? Harley's on paper have loads of power, yet even a modest European or Asian bike will wipe the floor with it. 50 Horsepower is more than enough for commuting, especially with the gearbox this Victory has. The only thing that's holding it back is the lack of range: enough for modest distance commuting, but not much else.

[@jobe20001]

Victory's main thing was competing with HD. I've never heard of this reputation you are speaking of, they where more powerful than any HD twin at the time. They might be behind by todays standards but Victory has been gone for almost 10years

[@joshuaanothereraseddad]

I rode a Brammo Empulse at Gorace in Christiansburg, VA over a decade ago. A customer brought it in for tires. It was reminiscent of an SV650 or Monster. It was cute, but hands down they'll never replace the sound of a good exhaust on an ICE bike.

[@TheKurtTribute]

Dyno top speed is not reality on a road. The main force that stops vehicles/motorcycles from being faster is air resistance, and obviously on a dyno you don’t have any of that.

[@fredmercury1314]

Is it's unique feature, that it sucks?

[@Atrip111]

Did not know the victory made one until a minute and then you said brammo

[@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263]

The clutch is a control tool. It is useful for free rolling or slowing.

[@murdoch9106]

The problem bikes like this face when they go electric is aerodynamics of a bike is ... rough... and you can only put so much battery in them and they tend to not be able to charge fast either I believe. So if you plan on doing anything other than short rides you are out of luck. The most interesting electric 2 wheeler right now to me is the Stark Varg, but that does not really count, its a 122 kg motocross bike, not road legal and purely intended for sick jumps and powerslides on track, or you can take it on enduro rides. It has 60 or 80 hp and its a real monster or a bike with adjustable power settings so you can race gas bikes without leaving them for dead completely. I think electric bikes will be a thing, but for now atleast for anything going motorway speeds and longer distance, we are not there yet. But with the battery tech that is in the pipeline I think it wont be all too long, give it a few more years.

[@jimkonst]

Modern chargers can fast-charge to about 85% or so, then have to slow-charge the remainder. 85% will get you around.

[@1bottlefed]

Thanks for the review on a great bike for its age. However I have to comment on your BLUETTI statements, since I feel its important for consumers to have realistic expectations on the power available from these types of devices. The idea of charging an electric motorcycle with a device whose total capacity is around 4000 wh not realistic as the pack on the Victory is 10400 wh, or more than 2.5 times the size of the BLUETTI. Is it a great device to bring along on a trip where you have a van to haul it and then using it to charge phones, cameras etc. or microwave some food? Absolutely, but for charging an Emotorcycle you will likely be disappointed in the results.

[@simonmillard8337]

Motorcycles are one of the most fuel efficient vehicles on the planet, if we all rode them the world would be better as a result of lower emissions and materials use etc etc. until this happens why would we ever need to consider electric? I've seen stop start on scooters which is ridiculous considering they are already so fuel efficient. The world has lost it mind.

[@TheHarris619]

Electric motorcycles are 6x more efficient than gas. If you look at the Zero FX line they get 350mpge, show me a motorcycle that is even close to that.

[@simonmillard8337]

@TheHarris619 Yes & riding a bicycle would be even better. Your missing the point. The problem doesn't exist. I have never got on a bike & worried about the MPG but I have with some cars. Who is this bike really for? If your trying to save the planet then you shouldn't even make electric motorcycles & get a train/ tram / metro instead, that's a far better way to move people. Show me all these people that need a bike that does 350mpg, you can't because they don't exist.

[@TheHarris619]

@@simonmillard8337 A bicycle and motorcycle are completely different means of transportation. Just because you don't care about the planet doesn't mean others don't. Just try to do your best

[@simonmillard8337]

@@TheHarris619 still didn't answer the point. Who needs this ? The problem doesn't exist. If you want to move people around and be kind to the planet there are better ways. If you want to have fun on a motorcycle they are better ways. Electric bikes are fine but nobody needs / wants them.

[@TheHarris619]

@@simonmillard8337 no one needs a motorcycle so what is your point?

[@zwarst]

er that last comment in fact on that bike it dose matter as where you're going as you may not have a tree to plug a power socket into or a rock...

[@chopshopz.2609]

When they were a idea and coming out really wanted one but couldn't find one for the UK and I think that's we're it went wrong. As USA 2,800 miles long UK at it's longest 838 so good idea and bike just wrong place.

[@MXD29]

Wait, are you the bikes and beards guy?

[@Srkcycles]

Yes but before I started that I had this channel

[@LaLaLucky7777]

Camel City Mill best socks you will ever buy ! We'll worth it

[@MapleNachiman]

that seems like a great bike people would buy if it was priced reasonabily...no wonder it is discontinued.

[@flitsies]

The Brammo Wass the one bike I was going to buy but they just vanished, the Victory got them and they didn't do anything with them.

[@volvo09]

Still having a clutch and shifter is awesome!

[@jeffstonecipher1594]

Puts the thing back on the charger to go back out for a run -still didn't fix that mirror🤣🤣 Classic Shawn...... Yep OCD here. So? 😎

[@vincedibona4687]

We don’t care about your OCD. We think that’s a “you”’problem. “So?” 🙄

[@jeffstonecipher1594]

@@vincedibona4687 That wonky right mirror alone easily added 3 seconds to his 0-60 run if nothing else, never mind the thing flopping around hitting him on the nose🤣🤣

[@cj4ebay]

@@vincedibona4687 I care about his OCD, this seems like a "you" problem. So? 😒

[@jensenthegreen6780]

looks cool, wanna try one.

[@gunther68]

Hey Shaun,hit me up if you want another Brammo. I have a 2113 Empulse R in excellent condition.

[@Srkcycles]

Email me

[@GeorgeT6566]

For less then 5000.00 bucks I can buy a nice bike and ride on. I know the government is pushing this electric crap in our face and I am about sick of it.

[@ThisisForTheTV]

Right, an SV650 is a fantastic bike for under $5k.

[@IceTTom]

​@@ThisisForTheTV eww 🤢

[@16driver16]

This is not the government this is a guy who has riden every kind of motorcycle and knows what he is talking about

[@ThisisForTheTV]

@@IceTTom What happened? You looked in the mirror?

[@GeorgeT6566]

I did not say he don't know what he is talking about. I said I can get a better deal on a nice used gas powered bike and be happy to have it. And yes your government is pushing electric crap in our face trying to make us buy it.

[@fredwexler1362]

This bike is 8 years old. So are its batteries. Batteries get weaker as they age and don't take a full charge. That may be why you feel the performance is down.

[@1hdoilfielddad244]

I remember when these were new. They couldnt give them away.

[@nomad74777]

Shouldn't you be working on your bike build off? Is this ever going to get done?

[@vincedibona4687]

Hurricanes have a way of delaying things.

[@stockey]

That's a nice bike, i would buy one.

[@pcohen85]

I don’t get all the electric bike hate. I have a lot of bikes and one of them is electric. It has 140 ft/lbs of torque. I love the electric and I ride it all the time. Now don’t get me wrong… if I could only have one bike it wouldn’t be electric. Luckily my loving wife parks in the driveway so I can fill the garage with man toys.

[@ninja2kernow]

Love that it has a clutch and gear box.

[@IceTTom]

Yet he doesn't even use it most of the video.. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@vincedibona4687]

@IceTTom Dafuq he isn’t. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ds-3d283]

Top speed on dyno is not fair .... wins resistance

[@furgy667]

Wind resistance, even!! I’m not poking fun I’m just happy It’s not me this time!

[@janjensen7398]

Way to short range. And still no electric mc for me..

[@khrismakaruk1027]

Over 50 hp but the dyno says 44?