Shin Megami Tensei 3 Nocturne HD Remaster - ALL Endings

0:00 - Demon Ending
4:16 - Yosuga Ending
8:11 - Musubi Ending
11:02 - Shijima Ending
14:13 - Freedom Ending
20:27 - True Demon Ending
Shin Megami Tensei 3 Nocturne HD Remaster - ALL Endings
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[@dntknonuttin]

Freedom ending is the best cause the Demi Fiend gets his freaking hoodie back.

[@mrsgamer9218]

True demon is the best cuz FREAKIN COOL TATS!

[@mrsgamer9218]

@Joseph Buccelli because you got the tats from lucifer/satan. So if you choose the true ending, you basically say fuck you to him. So he takes his tats back, and be sad panda :(

[@Raximus3000]

@Joseph Buccelli We have both, we just hide them to not freak anyone out.

[@shadowwwwwwwwwww]

depending on who you ask, that's the worst outcome.

[@CarlosSilva-bh4bi]

And the world don't dies :v

[@IamJerf]

I just beat the game now with the True Demon Ending. Honestly after looking at all the endings here, I much prefer the Freedom Ending because as how dark and sad this game is overall, a bit of happiness is very heartwarming to see in that ending

[@darrenmacqueen9884]

Same. If I ever play through this again I'll be going for that ending.

[@decoyslive1731]

yeah same here. I got the true demon ending as well; didn't even consider the option of getting a good ending lol

[@wl4810]

@@decoyslive1731 Naturally, the "good" ending of this game is far from garranted. Nothing stops the event here from just happening again.

[@fishonmydish7774]

@@wl4810 That's kinda the point though ain't it? Freedom for you and others make your own choices? You're not the pawn of someone else, you are following your own ideals, and that allows others to follow their own as well. Whether it leads to destruction or another world's creation, people should be free to do what they see fit, which freedom allows.

[@wl4810]

@@fishonmydish7774 And they were free before the first end of the world, the destruction already happened, I consider that things are already over and that it has to be accepted.

[@spawnofchaos9422]

To be honest, the reasons ending made me appreciate Chiaki, Hikawa and Isamu a little bit more since they show us more of their personalities. They are still assholes tho.

[@patrickripleyiii134]

Yeah freedom or TDE are the only ways, f them and their reasons

[@bearandthebull2372]

Hikawa I understand,but why isamu and chiaki?Isamu was a literal punching bag before becoming fake fiend,and chiaki trusted and didnt betray you at all.

[@flynnsmodeus148]

@@mingledingle1556 Based Chiaki??????

[@SrChr778]

The thing about their reasons, they're all short-sighted. And they're all only ONE aspect of what makes a world.

[@ivanlagrana878]

@@bearandthebull2372 She's basically Jimenez from Strange Journey, but doesn't make sense because she was a weak person before having demon power, she's hypocrite.

[@demi-femme4821]

In case you're wondering, Old Lucifer is, in fact, voiced by Paul Eiding, the VA for Colonel Campbell from MGS.

[@heeho5423]

And grandpa max from ben 10

[@TheSupersmash97]

I thought so

[@Mayhzon]

He is normally a great guy, but he doesn't sound good in this. I'm sorry.

[@weebman4885]

Thought it was him

[@emanresuesrever9840]

You will never be a real woman.

[@theblackcoatedman6794]

Well, at least in SMT V's trailer, we don't seem to have any friends to kill when our alignments inevitably clashes.

[@lmemh3737]

yet

[@theblackcoatedman6794]

Welp, optimism certainly ain't part of mainline or many of its fans.

[@__Xeese]

@@theblackcoatedman6794 It's tough to be optimistic when you've been conditioned not to

[@TactlessGuy]

@@theblackcoatedman6794 To be honest, I'd be disappointed if you couldn't kill your friends in SMT V.

[@theblackcoatedman6794]

@@TactlessGuy kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4fahI16jddogrc So basically, that's going to be the song for every mainline protag.

[@final909]

I know True demon ending is supposed to be a badass ending but I think Freedom is the best ending of them all.

[@matteodidonatantonio]

It is but the TDE is the true one

[@bennett_director6649]

@@matteodidonatantonio technically all endings are canon and true, just TDE fits the best with demi-feind.

[@Benjamin-ml7sv]

Freedom, demon and TDE ending are all three pretty much a wasted possibility.

[@darrenmacqueen9884]

@@matteodidonatantonio It was only added in the re-release, so it's hard to consider it the "true" ending. But that and freedom are my two favorites.

[@Number016]

@@darrenmacqueen9884 TDE was in the original release, what are you talking about?

[@Antasma1]

It's weird how despite the evil the Reasons did, the Reason endings are portrayed as happy endings

[@Sigismund697]

Well it is happy from the perspective of those that share that ideology And in Theory if you got that ending it is because you wanted a world ruled by that ideology

[@Mayhzon]

Are they really Happy Endings? The game never explicitly says so or makes any judgement on that. The Great Will comments on it, yes. But that's because it has it's own Agenda. Think the endings over for a little. I'd argue the only bad Ending is the Demon Ending (Not the true demon ending).

[@Antasma1]

@@Mayhzon The tone says happy (despite the bittersweetness of your friends being dead)

[@Mayhzon]

@@Antasma1 I guess that's the beauty of this game. It's much less clear cut about it's implications. From the musical touches each ending received, I see much darker undertones, but you interprete it as Happy Endings and that's fine, too. Personally I feel that... Yosuga has indeed a very strong bitter-sweet undertone. Your would be lover is dead and you're about to create a world where it's likely very lonely at the top. Shijimi starts off with a somewhat bumbly set of guitar strings and your friend died before you could even reach him. Unable to defend his own reason, which speaks a lot of the Reason itself. You are about to create a very weak world, which will crumble easily. Musubi has a very foreboding and sinister organ playing. Hikawa has fulfilled his objectives and the world will never be the same again, you having made yourself his pawn. Of course some of this is conjecture on my part. In my mind these aren't really classic happy endings, but they're definitely great endings and video gaming in general needs more of this story-telling goodness. The only Happy Ending for Naoki in my mind is the Freedom Ending. It's the only ending where he gets everything back the conception took from him and from the rest of the world.

[@Antasma1]

In the true demon ending, despite it being Lucifer's favorite ending, he reminds you of the consequences of your actions unlike the reason endings

[@cawmusic]

this was my first smt game. as i played, i kept thinking “all of these worlds sound like shit. im going to make one just like the old one and restore everyone to their normal lives” without even knowing if that was possible. im so glad it was, as that is definitely the best ending

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

Not to rain on your parade, but that sounds conservative. The point is to skip the slow, uncertain way of improving things in the real world( with politics, and charity) to get to a good world swiftly. Now, most endings do suck, but a few don't.

[@cawmusic]

@@spongbobsquarepants3922 the thing is that everyone and everything dies, which is the main thing i want to reverse. the current world does suck as is but i really dont think destroying literally everything is the answer

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

@@cawmusic Do you not think people are brought back in Shijima, for instance? In the reason talks, are the only people in the world going to be the few humans in the vortex world? I do not think so. I think the people from the past world would in some way be brought back, ready to live in this other way. The game is pretty vague about what the endings are actually going to be, but you could easily imagine that in Shijima you go back to the previous world, but everything is changed in accordance with the Shijima Reason.

[@ShijioHirojima567]

Damn I went for the True Demon Ending but I kinda wanna go the Freedom Ending now.

[@bodhisattva-p]

Freedom ending best ending

[@smirkingspyFO76]

True Demon Ending is great for the content But we all know that the Freedom Ending is the best ending.

[@cumekira70]

@@bodhisattva-p no

[@bodhisattva-p]

@@cumekira70 Yes tde sucks in terms of story

[@connordembrowicz9318]

the Freedom Ending is the best in my opinion for one reason, I've heard it asked: "why does God allow evil?" because he gave us Free Will, if we didn't have that we'd be nothing more than machines, dolls, puppets, without thought or reason. sure we as humans are flawed beings, but its those flaws that make us who we are. without the Freedom to choose our path, all that awaits us is a hollow world with no light or shadow. just an empty existence. and that is my opinion.

[@dankspiderman579]

To me, both Freedom and True Demon are two sides of the same coin, and embody the main lesson of the game in different ways. Both in which reject the idea of having to stick to a single, extreme ideal- in Freedom, you decide to give the world nuance, and let it go to how it was, only now that there's better hope for things to turn out better than they were. In True Demon, it's a complete rejection of the ideals and system, and a march to fight for a world free of imposing these ideals onto others. In Freedom, you let the ideals of the world blend into it's best parts combined, and in True Demon, you destroy them entirely.

[@Arcxzal]

i like how the yosuga ending is demifiend creating a world of strength but he loses his demonic powers and basically gets run over by a horde of demons

[@aleaiactaest6503]

I thought it was buildings rising, huh

[@Bropower125Games]

@@aleaiactaest6503 the endings all look the same after the world relights up, I assume its just to leave it to your imagination, everything about the worlds besides the reason behind it is supposed to be interpreted however you like All of them are a little sad outside of the freedom ending though. One is a cutthroat world where you are never safe One is a lonely world where you can never make contact with another person Another is a 'perfect' world where no emotion can be felt The freedom ending is just our world, but presumably with a closer connection to demons

[@fefyfona4318]

Yea definitely buildings rising as whatever world you choose is being created

[@darrenmacqueen9884]

I'm not entirely sure demons continue to exist in any of the worlds after they get reborn. I know the demons did help fight for it, but I don't think anyone aside from the ones that created the world actually get to exist in the new one. They keep mentioning a rebirth. Otherwise, I'm not sure why the main character would have lost his demon form. I think strength doesn't necessarily mean just physical strength either. Chiaki didn't exactly seem super strong before becoming her demon form either. It could be more of a eugenics kind of thing, wanting those with disabilities or unfit genes killed so they don't hold back society. Pretty horrible philosophy, but I didn't really agree with any of the 3 Reasons.

[@Palivox]

​@darrenmacqueen9884 demons would likely still exist because of the mandala system, demi fiend loses his powers presumably because he went against what lucifer wanted, seeing as he keeps them in the demon ending/TDE.

[@mannysmith5397]

Isamu: *a letter and a hat* Chiaki: *a ghost* Hikawa: *hey homie wassup nice world glad I could baptize it lmao* TDE: *ONE MORE GOD REJECTED...*

[@germanofzelda9109]

Freedom:?

[@oblyx1828]

@@germanofzelda9109 Freedom is so free that it got left out lmao

[@hoppyhoppy9267]

@@germanofzelda9109 Bro got the hoodie back

[@AfternoonWolf]

When you finished a game with TDE couple of minutes ago and YT gives this in reccomendations

[@christopherjones7196]

Right?

[@afizsouji]

google always listening my friend

[@virdiawanip2278]

Law: Yosuga/Musubi/Shijima Neutral: Freedom Chaos: Demon/True Demon

[@jeffd9337]

Thanks for saving us hundreds of hours, haha. After watching I'm definitely happy I got the freedom ending.

[@ltb1345]

Same.

[@duke4726]

Thats it. In the true demon ending, demi fiend deleted sex.

[@cotyjackson7200]

Aw hellllll no

[@yaboijebus1418]

From a writing standpoint, Freedom is undoubtedly the best ending. All the reason endings are meh, while demon ending just makes no sense However, there's just something about the concept of TDE that is so absolutely badass, I cant help but love it. Sure, you get extra content and such and that definitely raises it, but Im not talking about that. The fact you enter a sparring match against the Lord of Darkness, Lucifer, in the remnants of a destroyed world where pretty much you, your demons and him are the only beings left breathing, has got to be one of the most sick and epic scenarios any story has ever told me So yeah, my point? Freedom ending is the best from a writing point of view. TDE is best from a goopy-monkey action brain (like mine) point of view lmao

[@Sigismund697]

TDE would be the best if it wasn't for you simply becoming Lucifer's pawn and thus YHVH tool

[@tendatonda1634]

heh who cares about writing, i just to punch god in the face with lucifer.

[@DarkenRaul1]

I agree with what Sigismund said. I’d only be on board with TDE if it wasn’t just a “sparing match” with Lucifer and you actually killed him taking his place and going on the path of conquest and destruction yourself (which in turn creates its own cycle that Lucifer scoffed at ironically). Such a minor tweak would have fit more thematically and would have been better than just being Lucifer’s pawn imo (plus would be even more bad ass since you just killed the guy who gave you your power).

[@Mayhzon]

@@DarkenRaul1 You don't just become his pawn, you become his first commander in chief. And then it's off to fight YVHV together. How that battle concludes is up to your imagination. It's definitely badass.

[@ChokingOnRazors]

@@Mayhzon nah it’s the great will not yhvh.

[@isaacvr6947]

*"The final hour is imminent. Those who dwell in darkness shall suffer the Light of judgement! After the battle to end all battles is won... YOU will be cast into the FIRE!! Let fear grip your heart! Because of your transgressions, you will be cursed for ALL ETERNITY!!!!"*

[@TheWheelman298]

One more god rejected.

[@jackour8167]

"dies"

[@isaacvr6947]

I just thought this quote was awesome, gave me chills first time I heard it in the remake.

[@viruschris3160]

So, these are the endings for SMT3. I finally beat the game and I went with the Freedom Ending as Freedom is the one I agree the most with. Though, I could get behind Isamu's Reason a bit, but people cannot grow without bonds. So nope. Demon Ending is... keeping the Vortex World as is and as the new world. I... kinda get it? But, not really liking it as well. The Vortex World was kinda bland. Wish there were more locations in a sense. True Demon Ending is... OK, that was a pretty rad ending. An Evil Ending definitely. A shame getting Pierce leads to this one. I love the closing short. Though, ultimately Freedom is for me. Still a great game. Though, I don't see myself doing a NG+ with the old viewpoint of NG+. Let me keep my Macca and Magatama too at least! I never want to do the Puzzle Boy mini-game again.

[@thatsjustcolin3208]

I see true demon as denying this cycle and trying to break it.

[@jackour8167]

True demon isn't evil, you guys just don't know the context.

[@wl4810]

@@jackour8167 People really call TDE devil just because Lucifer and you both look badass, and then they dare talk about writing, that's fucking crazy.

[@ariannadravis3934]

​@@wl4810 Your gonna have to explain to me why *the world being in that destroyed state with demons and humans running amok everywhere* is good or even neutral.

[@wl4810]

@@ariannadravis3934 There is absolutely nothing wrong with not obeying the will of God and go to the road of creation. Life is extinct. The world is dead. And it is what it is. We are traveling in an already dead world. It is not dying. It is dead. Demons can do as they please, for there is nothing to lose to let them do so. There is nothing to lose by not obeying god either. The demon endings are about as evil as aborting an unborn child. The only one who vilifies you for not going through it is, fittingly, the christian God. A being who wishes for humanity to stroke his ego forever and repeats his cycle of creation and destruction eternally, and keeps souls trapped in his scheme. Lucifer, since his defeat in SMT2, understood that humans must be liberated from the influence of demons as they deserve it, as the core of the world. And this, is a war of liberation. From the strongest demon of all, God. All reasons choices fall under his power, because they will perpetuate his will. You have no choice. The freedom ending will not free you, because you will lose. He is the will of the universe itself, no the universe itself, he will not be defeated, because even if he is, he will come back. There is no humanity to save, because they will destroy themselves yet again. The demon ending is a path of both acceptance of the end of things, and liberation from the cycle of the universe.

[@pengudiegu]

I prefer the Freedom/True demon ending but morally, I can’t help but agree with Isamu’s Reason. Musubi would be able to grant everyone their freedom, a life of bliss, everyone’s own reason could come to pass, a world like that wouldn’t be stagnant as some claim, since most wouldn’t just remove the capability for humans to progress, Musubi would grant all their perfect world, if you wished for the world to be just like it was before and to not be able to change it, you could do that in Musubi, if Chiaki wanted to be the strongest in Musubi, she could do it, same with Hikawa. I can’t really disagree with a world where I am truly free

[@platformingames2967]

Basically the matrix

[@banjo304]

I disagree. Hikawa wants a world of mindless cooperation, Chiaki wants a world of eternal conflict. Both of those require interaction with others, which Musubi rejects.

[@jasonenns5076]

But the true demon ending kills everyone... And then there is no purpose. Musubi ending is an ending that would end nihilistically, because all humans need to feel purpose and hanging put with dolls that you control sounds more like an artificial relationship. You would feel no purpose to live and eventually will yourself to die. There is a difference between wishes (as-in djinn-wishes) and there being no other people that have free will.

[@pengudiegu]

@@jasonenns5076 absolutely agree! Musubi is a world where only you have free will, which I can’t agree with, which is why I said I prefer freedom, where one fights for humanity’s right to stay in the previous world, flawed as it is. I just mean that I can appreciate Musubi as another viable option, even though when you really pay attention it only leads to decay

[@goodyute2178]

U can have anything u want in the freedom ending because you have free will, the reasons just force narrow minded ideologies onto everyone in existence You support musubi? Live alone and never go outside, dont socialize with anyone on the internet or in person You support yosuga? Join a boxing club or something and be overly competitive in everything you do You support shijima? Guess you kinda have to force your ideology onto everyone to get what you want here, just be quiet i guess

[@paulstillman4949]

3:58 I don't remember it looking that bad in the original.

[@shamms9249]

it’s not, the remaster i think has a hard time with the texture meshing for some reason

[@DandyDude]

same

[@bruhed1117]

I still like freedom ending the best

[@thatsjustcolin3208]

I see a lot of people hating of the TDE but I see it as rejecting this cycle of destruction and rebirth and trying to break it. Even if you do remake the world others will have to go through the same pain to rebirth it again at the end of it all.

[@tomo8940]

But that's always been the main message of almost all the SMT games. That humanity can over come anything and that the human will/spirit is stronger then any God or Demon. Plus imagine giving up your free will to a crossdressing demon, sacrificing literally every thing, and ultimately failing at the end thanks to the other SMT games existing. Strange Journey showed this perfectly in it's new neutral route. It's a never ending battle.

[@Aomegeus]

@@tomo8940 Yup, but that thing about human spirit/will is all bullshit. Hahahhaha If demons and gods existed, humanity would be fucked.

[@jackour8167]

@@tomo8940 Demi-Fiend doesn't fail tf

[@wl4810]

On top of this, there is no reason to rebuild another world after the previous has ended. A reason ending is, in a way, similar to making a child, and not everyone wants to do that.

[@albyx]

True Demon Ending: “you will be cursed for all eternity!” Demi-fiend: “OK boomer”

[@paytonludwig1455]

"I'm about to curse you with these sliding hands."

[@corrin-1976]

FREIKGUEL

[@ham5924]

Holy shit I just now realize that the Lucifer is voiced by the Colonel from MGS

[@ClvrBstrd]

So, overall: Freedom and TDE are top contenders for best endings Reason endings are okay Demon ending is meh

[@vvmurphyvv]

Honestly, I'm satisfied by Musubi, but the Freedom ending is still pretty beautiful too.

[@jayphangx8742]

I'm interested as to what Naoki's ideal world would be lol

[@archivist_13]

@@jayphangx8742 probably the freedom ending

[@ZeroOmega-vg8nq]

Realistically the freedom ending cuz the few bits and pieces we get of naoki character is that he really did care about his friends. Otherwise TDE just because the power granted by lucifer is just that corrupting

[@Adam-sh8vf]

Funny how the game is about humans creating a moral right and wrong, but the very act of discussing which one is best defines right and wrong to be something external to us.

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

"A Demon cannot create a Reason." Demi-Fiend in SMTV "Bet."

[@christhechilled]

Man, the true demon ending is so bad ass that I'm actually pleased with my outcome at the end!

[@nbaybbreastsaccount878]

3:48 "Man"

[@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841]

Demi Fiend: I do some mistake right....

[@TUCell-ps5mi]

Well at least he’s with Pixie. Probably.

[@thegrandtemslayr1384]

@@TUCell-ps5mi And the rest of the Demon Harem.

[@prinnydood7920]

Raidou talks at the end of TDE if you played the version with him dood

[@dxrbkn5145]

WHAT DOES HE SAY MAN? THATS ONE SOLE REASON TO BUY THIS MY GOD HAHAHA

[@prinnydood7920]

@@dxrbkn5145 lol dood

[@dxrbkn5145]

@@prinnydood7920 I thought your comment said Dante Now Im sad

[@prinnydood7920]

@@dxrbkn5145 you are a big Dante fan arent you dood ?

[@dxrbkn5145]

@@prinnydood7920 Absolutely dood

[@aleaiactaest6503]

Holy crap the symbolism in this game is crazy

[@jimmy-iw3sb]

how so?

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

If even Lucifer himself says you have an "awesome power", it should tell you something about you, King 😎🙏

[@archivist_13]

So if I beat up Satan will he say I'm rad?

[@ZeroOmega-vg8nq]

​@@archivist_13and then satan eats god next game and is still not as brutal as you in your bossfight but a femboy is lol

[@Mad77max77]

You should meet this character in the Digital Devil Saga game... he will wipe your team in 1 turn, so yes, he's that badass.

[@Evan-pool]

I just started a playthrough of this on my channel and oh my god there's a lot of different endings 😲

[@YoutubeIsAwesome]

The Reasons Endings are clearly inspired by Dark City's and the way the city itself is literally created out of nothing. Demifiend before, Demiurge (creator) now. Mr. Murdock yes?

[@beerguy177]

the worst part of doing the yosuga reason was killing futomimi

[@toon6553]

Honestly bro. Futomimi was the homie but we had to do what we had to do I guess

[@beetogarcia9983]

9:26 They fixed the slide animation I see

[@lfvgamerbro]

Wait how did I not notice that!?

[@LuffyBlack]

God always did have some of the coolest fucking lines

[@luca-ou8pv]

4:46 it's very surprising hearing this from one of the most important avatars of the leader of the law faction

[@jackour8167]

Yeah, I wonder why. Maybe, just maybe, he ISN'T an avatar of YHVH? and instead of the Great Will like the game literally says?

[@luca-ou8pv]

@@jackour8167 with greater will they mean yhvh not the axiom

[@jackour8167]

@@luca-ou8pv Yeah no lmao that makes no sense. YHVH is not a multiversal god. Otherwise SMT2 wouldn't happen at all 😂

[@luca-ou8pv]

@@jackour8167 yes he is a multiversal god

[@jackour8167]

@@luca-ou8pv No, he isn't. If he was, he would've achived his goal in SMT2, which is literally to just teleport his believers to the Megido ark and destroy the Chaos alinged people. But if you play SMT2, that clearly didnt happen. So no, he isn't.

[@linashell2696]

i love tde. i roleplayed my fiend to be an ally mainly to demons and as such he would have no reason or desire to remake the world. plus knowing conception could happen again only solidified my choice. if he's gonna fight again he may as well take out the big dog.

[@talkingviolin]

I don't know if it's intentional, but the Demon ending resonates a lot with Camus' The Stranger.

[@clouddreamurr4815]

I’m happy I did the True Demon Ending in my first gameplay

[@kamo124]

So in Freedom ending you recreate the normal world just like it ws before the destruction ( and it leaves you with a warning about Lucifer?)

[@skydivisionx]

Lucifer warns Demi fiend that YHVH is pissed at him for defying creation, which means that the cycle shall continue and repeat itself once again. Lucifer sees himself in Demi fiend, because they both walked the path of thorns, defying YHVH, causing them to both fall from grace. It's why Lucifer tempts you to join his cause, to put an end to the cycle of creation

[@user-uk4uh6ot8b]

Espetacular

[@ramez839]

If there is someone attempting to get the true demon ending pls clear the 5th kalpa. I didn't realise I need to clear that when I am already in the endgame

[@Luuw]

I got freedom ending and loving it !

[@nennster7883]

Finally finished off Nocturne and got TDE. Came here to see the other endings and seeing the Persona-ass freedom ending is really bizarre considering how the game was the entire time. lol.

[@ltb1345]

You don't understand the Freedom Ending then.

[@GiegueX]

Persona invented real life

[@loaf1712]

@@ltb1345 Look at you. Remarkable.

[@thelel6591]

it felt good seeing something positive come out of the whole game. otherwise this game would jus be edgy/10

[@nagabe6394]

Wasn't in Chronicle, Gouto would write an epilogue about their journey in Vortex World at the end of each ending? Is it not in the Remaster?

[@shadowcatofthenorth1984]

Its in the remaster, I think after the credits roll

[@boiwifeyasmr4U]

I just beat the game for the first time with no guides for endings and can’t believe I got what’s considered the “good” ending. I don’t even know how I did.

[@Bropower125Games]

Technically there is no truely good ending Even the freedom ending says that there is another enemy

[@Tommyvang187]

technically not really good ending, cuz in that ending the true god will aproach and destroy that world anyway...thats why you get the text at the end, when you do TDE, you become strong enough to say fuck it and go with lucifer to defeat the great will. Which sets itself perfectly up for SMT V's world.

[@ltb1345]

@@Tommyvang187 No.

[@benjulc9271]

​​@@Tommyvang187 The world gets detroyed without possibility of rebirth. "It sets things up for SMT V perfectly".

[@Mad77max77]

This game is definitely my favorite RPG of all time !

[@brownpsyduck_2475]

Man. They added 2 more endings to the remaster? I dont remember the other 2 in the original if they were. I just remember the endings With reason and the demon king ending.

[@haihuynh8772]

Demon and Freedom endings were always there.

[@QueerWebs]

demon and true demon were added in the maniax rerelease of nocturne in japan, along with the labyrinth of amala and the dante dlc. in the united states we never got the original version, just the maniax rerelease. the hd remaster is this version as well.

[@Asteros1453]

The true demon ending to me feels like they could have had an extra scene in the remaster of Lucifer and Demifiend defeating YHVH, with Lucifer Transcending and Demifiend bidding him goodbye as he heads off into the new world born from the conflict. As he walks off Lucifer says there'll be another conception but this time it will be different. This way they could tie into SMT5, that game is really the only one I'm disappointed wasn't just outright called a direct sequel to Nocturne.

[@justaguy2985]

There are so many tie-ins to Nocturne in V, the Return of True Demon might as well be considered canon at this point.

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

@@justaguy2985 I would rather consider it fanservice. V is inspired by Nocturne, and references it, but no more than that. There are too many contradictions to actually follow from Nocturne.

[@devilstar3476]

Freedom was my first ending and definitely in my opinion the best. But its way more fun getting true demon for that Metatron and Lucifer boss fights

[@dylanhofften4047]

Chiaki's voice actresses is so nice ngl

[@Essu_]

Jesus CHRIST What the fuck did they do to the Demon Ending?!

[@jacksonbrickmedia939]

I just wish the non TDE endings had as much content so there is more reason to get them. But I guess that is the point of the old man enticing you to reach the depths of amala

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

The other endings can also be gotten with all the extra content. The only thing you lose out on is Demi-Fiend with Pierce and the Pierce Girimehkala. You just have to not go down the elevator after killing Metatron.

[@Mykahaia]

Should have picked the freedom...it was acctually the one I wanted...but there's no way i'm playing this game again...

[@jakeriese4862]

Thanks. Think Freedom Ending is better

[@urmanascrewed]

I generally like to go for the demonic endings because that is kinda what is unique about SMT. I usually like to do the ending or route in a game that let's you see the most content and that is True Demon ending here! I like getting to kill all the gods under my demonic horde!

[@Luciano.g6]

Hermano se cree Shadow 💀

[@Emmetlovesredvelvet13]

One thing about the tde that makes no sense why are there law aligned angels behind you if you are the ultimate demon of darkness

[@EZXB]

I wonder who's the one speaking in those final texts in the freedom and true demon endings

[@Ragiroth]

I'm so mad I messed up on getting the TDE. I thought as long as you beat the 5th Kalpa before getting to Kagatsuchi, you can get it. Didn't realize you couldn't do the Tower AT ALL until you beat the 5th Kalpa. Such a sick ending. Ah well, thankfully I at least started the 5th kalpa before the tower and got Dante. Also find it funny that Hikawa get's to keep his body while Isamu is just a hat at a grave and Chiaki is a force ghost, despite him being the one that basically all of this lol

[@sinisis2000]

when i replay this game. Im going for musubi.

[@grahamc3963]

The freedom ending is like voltaire's candeed, where this is the best of all possible worlds. ....Right? Maybe I'm not remembering it right.

[@zylorixx810]

Freedom ending is the best but TDE route itself is better because you get more content if only you could still get freedom ending with the TDE content

[@ofilosofoouumfumante5655]

You can you just need to not go to Lucifer room

[@lowhp_comic]

@@ofilosofoouumfumante5655 but you miss out on Beelzebub and Lucifer (who's more challenging than Kagutsuchi)

[@ofilosofoouumfumante5655]

@@lowhp_comic i was saying that you could get pierce in freedom ending

[@ryantiong3671]

What's the ost for each ending

[@oblyx1828]

I still don't understand the aftermath of TDE sure no more rebirth cycle but who is the "true enemy" they mention and what are demons supposed to do from now on?

[@ParadiseLordRyu]

They’re setting off to fight YHVH

[@bogus8591]

The Great Will

[@zapunknown]

I beat the game and got the regular demon ending, 91 hours well spent but to end in disappoint

[@sasuke9978]

Freedom ending is beautiful

[@KashouWannabe]

Just finished my first playthrough of SMT 3, did the Chronicle version and went TDE. A fun ending for sure, but I wanted to come and see the others. As I had guessed Freedom is your "good" ending, and while hardcore fans may scoff at the idea of any form of connection with SMT 5, NDE seems to fit that bill. "Real" Tokyo becomes Da'at and The Great Will creates "New Tokyo" in spite of Lucifer. Person who wrote the wiki entry feels that SMT 5 works from TDE, but with the Being of Creation dead, I'd like to see how that happens.

[@ChristopherAustin-dk6op]

What is the name of the music when you are just talking with Kagutsushi? I want to use it in D&D when the players are talking to a God.

[@bruhed1117]

If yuko is aware after the reason ending then they all probraly are…… that’s gonna be really fuckin awkward when chiaki and Isamu find out

[@bluejay7058]

Something tells me it was only Aradia that allowed her to remember, as well as Lucifer for the MC. I doubt Isamu remembers because he talks to MC like he's still his friend, even though he ruined his reason and killed him

[@bruhed1117]

@@bluejay7058 I assumed they thought it was a dream and Aradia is a fictional god made real by the conception so I don’t think that makes sense

[@bluejay7058]

@@bruhed1117 Aradia is a false god yes, but she is only false in terms of not originating from the universe that the conception took place in. She sought to use the creation as a way to rebirth herself. She is very much real, just not native.

[@SnailBot]

I haven't play other ending I want to know does it force you to fight there own reason boss? Like if you choose yosuka do you still have to fight chiaki?

[@Xploderz55]

No when you meet them in ToK they basically acknowledge that you’re helping them and give you their stone and let you move on

[@shadowagent7361]

@@Xploderz55 Pretty sure you still have ro fight Chiaki in her path. The others will just give you their stone if you follow them

[@Xploderz55]

@@shadowagent7361 I only played TDE because I heard that the other endings kinda sucked so I watched them instead and I kinda have to agree lol

[@haihuynh8772]

For Shijima, you skip Hikawa. For Musubi, Isamu gets killed by Chiaki before you arrive. For Yosuga, Chiaki still fights you.

[@Xploderz55]

@@haihuynh8772 oh got it. Thanks for the info

[@sinisis2000]

MUSUBI. MUSUBI ALWAYS.

[@whawhawhawhaaaa]

I know freedom ending is basic, but I really like it.

[@thelel6591]

what is shijimas ending i dont get it. no more greed? seems similar to Musubi ending

[@LittleMissLuster]

The best ending is the freedom ending change my mind

[@PotatoVoid255]

Kinda lost with each ending I only know the True Demon Ending. Can someone tell me the other endings

[@radianceJR]

I did the true demon ending on my first run so the new game + can I still use the monsters I got from them if I wanna pursue the freedom or other ending?

[@priceyyeti4058]

Yes, the game explicitly says the compendium Carrie's over and if you 100 percent it in your first run you get a half-off discount for all retrieval charges going forward.

[@radianceJR]

@@priceyyeti4058 that will be good I got my Shiva, metatron , to cost over 100k kekw

[@ridiculoussinner4]

The freedom ending isn't good because it's just postponing the conception until later. Someone else will just recreate the vortex world and someone else will have to bring a reason to kagutsuchi.

[@darkpyro786]

Yup it's like taking the blue pill in the Matrix

[@darrenmacqueen9884]

So, I only played the True Demon Ending myself, but according to this, it seems you still fight and kill Chiaki and Isamu even when you join their sides? Why? Why don't they get to live to see their own Reasons come to pass?

[@DandyDude]

ego issues

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

You don't fight Isamu, he just gets killed by Chiaki. The reason you fight Chiaki in Yosuga is because her she wants to find out which of the two are the strongest.

[@dedark0il131]

Just beat the game on TDE and now I'm immensely disappointed with it and any other ending except for Freedom ending. All Reason endings are straight up lazy, and TDE is rushed. I mean, each of the endings makes sense, but after spending 100+ hours in the game, I wanted to have some emotional climax, and Freedom is the only finale that provides it.

[@arielgomes7989]

I would have chosen Freedom, but there's no way I could go finish the game without going through amala and kicking Lucifer's ass, so TDE it was.

[@cccherry4334]

How those endings works? I already have just 10 hours of smt 3

[@Syleans]

I'm glad this game released at the right era. If this game release nowadays, I believe it will get a lot of criticism since the world theory were too strong implicated.

[@marcusanthony6489]

Just beat the game and got the freedom ending. I fw with it but personally prefer the demon ending and TDE. Especially TDE. I already knew I didn't want to align myself with any of the reasons the people behind them were all annoying as fuck throughout the game. Especially Isamu. Dude's 6 ft under talking to me about a new world. Like dawg you are DEAD 💀

[@user-vf4fk9sh7t]

It's funny: Kagutsuchi appreciate all reasons, where everyone is forced to do a solid purpose (fighting for all eternity, be alone for the rest of there life, don't have feelings and no reason to live). But reject the one reason, where no one has to follow any roles and making their own decisions. Overall no reason-ending has a stabil and long future, in the end everything gets destroyed. In the end, the Demon and the True Demon ending are the best solution to end the eternal suffering of mankind.

[@MiagolioMaxwell]

No love for the Reason of Shijima? I think the world of silent harmony sounds pretty nice in light of the loud, chaotic world we live in currently.

[@rhinelladiptycha3513]

All three reasons get the short end of the stick by the community, as you can see in the comments. Musubi has it's fans, but i agree that Shijima is my favorite ending in the game and maybe one of my favorites in the whole series.

[@stealthy9156]

Shijima is a world where personal ambition is pretty much dead. I'd rather not

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

@@stealthy9156 As I see it, Shijima is based Buddhism. In Buddhism the problem in life is suffering, and the cause of suffering is desire. That is why Hikawa wants to get rid of it. Shijima is not eliminating emotion, but desire. This really means that the change in the world is largely internal. People are going about their lives, doing work, going to school, being with friends and family and so on. People still have their individual traits, and they each have their own occupation. People are different from each other in Shijima, as seen when Hikawa explains “Lights that spin quietly-sometimes bright, sometimes dim-all pulsating in perfect harmony”. That they spin quietly means that they are not in focus, whereas others may shine more brightly other times. I think it is a beautiful world that would be promised to humans. What is the point of ambition? When people become a little better at something, they become happy, but only for a short time. They return to how they felt soon enough. This happens until people die. This growth in the end does not bring lasting satisfaction, because people hunger for further improvement, further wealth, further control. The world has been developing science, art, war, economy and more. What has this gotten us? Barely anything. We are no more satisfied than hunter gatherers from tens of thousands of years ago. We need to be able to be satisfied with ourselves, just as we are. Whether you are skilled, average or weak, you can find satisfaction regardless. That is why Hikawa says that “Rather than blaze a path of ruin, we should lay down our fires for the world’s sake. By doing so, a life of repose would in return be promised to us.” We do not know what will make us satisfied but the world does, and satisfaction will be granted to us when we lose our desire. Given all this, Shijima is the best ending.

[@stealthy9156]

@@spongbobsquarepants3922 you're a corny mf let me tell you that much. I still don't agree with you and find shijima a repulsive idea. I may as well be an ant at that point, without the part where other ants might tie me to the ceiling and continuously force feed me to use me as a living food storage, because ants are cruel animals. If you want to be like that have fun, I have no problem with being happy with what I am and have, but trying to grow is so much more enjoyable and fulfilling it makes the other option pale in comparison and whoever takes the right to do that away from people is someone whose narrow mindedness has overwhelmed any reasonable objection. From my understanding of Buddhism inner peace is something someone strives to reach (ironic) and chooses for oneself, and is never imposed. So imposing it is inherently contradictory

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

@@stealthy9156 I do not think Shijima would be as negative and communist as you seem to think. It would be very much like normal, except there would be a lasting peace in everything we do. Maybe you do have a great time in the world. That is great that you are making things work for you. But so many people are not, and are suffering tremendously under the pressure of having to "grow" all the time and perform perfectly in everything. In buddhism, the buddha helps people out with enlightening people, even if they are not trying to do so. I do not see what is wrong with that. After they are enlightened, they are glad to be. I do not think of the reasons as forcing anything on anyone, unless you would also say that the freedom ending imposes certain values on people.

[@mikerollins7713]

So un the world of Megaten V the true Demon ending is the true one? Because you face the King Demifiend

[@geenoix2357]

Unfortunately, you can only get Pierce on TDE. No Musubi this time ig

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

That only actually matters against Noah, and he just takes a long time to beat, he is not actually difficult. You also have to reach level 80 to get Pierce, something that you do not get to organically. That takes grinding, luckily not for long, but still grinding.

[@yep9462]

@@spongbobsquarepants3922 You don't have to reach level 80 to get Pierce, that's Freikugel you're thinking of (which can't be bought until you've defeated Ahriman and Noah anyway). Pierce is automatically added to Marogareh's skill list, so you just have to level up once with that one to get it.

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

@@yep9462 You're right. However, it is only helpful against noah with Freikugel.

[@ryanp7546]

​@@yep9462Actually, you can skip Noah and get the Magatama with Freikugel lol

[@reniferZiolo]

as a demon to the bone i pick the last one!

[@thelaymenmuslim4603]

Canon : true demon ending Sequel : shin megami tensei 5

[@norman20100]

seriously?

[@thelaymenmuslim4603]

@@norman20100 geez man. Play the game and you understand

[@spongbobsquarepants3922]

@@thelaymenmuslim4603 The games are not connected. First of all, there is no canon ending. None of the other games clearly lead off from nocturne. What you want to say is that from TDE where Lucifer and his army are about to fight a war against god yet we do not see anything beyond this, we find out in 5 that Lucifer and his army won, and the plot goes from there. It is a cool idea, but there are many contradictions. The game is inspired by Nocturne clearly, but there are many things that do not make sense. For one, why is there a world with humans in it? In Nocturne, we are in the vortex world. Clearly not the same place. In the true demon ending, you end off with going to war with The Great Will. The enemy in Nocturne is the Great Will, not YHVH. But in SMT 5, the Great will is not the enemy.

[@Reoko77]

​@spongbobsquarepants3922 Your definitely right on that. In the dlc of apocalypse, TDE was technically the "canon" ending but a lot of people did notice the differences. One of the directors said it takes place from one universe to another but we dont know if the means that with enough power, one can travel to the diamond realm and use that as a gateway between worlds or they just skipped it all entirely and just went to another universe and raged war there. Personally, i think it all takes place in a different timeline. Like, nocturne did happen but differently. It was pretty much the prequel to 5, the war that happened before the events took place and the demifiend was in the background, doing demifiend stuff.

[@acronix-053]

@@spongbobsquarepants3922 In fact, it is not contradicted in canon by the SMT 4 DLC that the only one who knows what the true form of the great will is is Stephen Lucifer. He confuses the great will or rather the axiom that is his true name with YHVH because YHVH. It was previously part of that entity so it is not counted, TDE is the final canon confirmed by SMT4 and Smt 5

[@paperluigi6132]

If you just speedrun towards the end ignoring everything that's optional, what ending do you get?

[@TrueCobalion]

Most likely the [Regular] Duman Ending. Though that may change depending on what responses you say to the three reason-bearers and Aradia.

[@fabrizioladelll8208]

Depends on the answers you give to the reason bearers A true speedrun would have you either go Regular Demon Ending, Shijima Ending or Musubi ending, given that they all skip a boss

[@paperluigi6132]

@@fabrizioladelll8208 Is True Demon the most runned category, or is it one of those three?

[@johnwilliamson4748]

@@fabrizioladelll8208 which boss?

[@juanjosesanchez8373]

@@johnwilliamson4748 Baal avatar

[@CarlosSilva-bh4bi]

I think that the TDE is the Mega asshole ending, the Reason ending of Musubi or the freedom ending should be canon. *Change my mind*

[@sock312]

Don’t really see how TDE is an asshole ending or how Yosuga is law but ok

[@jackour8167]

Yosuga is law? Tde is mega asshole? You need help

[@CarlosSilva-bh4bi]

oh sorry, I wrote it all bad, I tried to say that Musubi or the freedon ending should be canon because the TDE are tecnicaly a bad ending because you destroy the world

[@CarlosSilva-bh4bi]

@@jackour8167 my bad

[@CarlosSilva-bh4bi]

@@sock312 my bad

[@TheRawyan]

Well now we have an actual ending to the True demon ending 😂

[@Crabo99]

?

[@TheRawyan]

@@Crabo99 SMT V

[@Crabo99]

@@TheRawyan is it confirmed to be a sequel?

[@TheRawyan]

@@Crabo99 They mention the conception, and lots more hints towards the possibility

[@Crabo99]

@@TheRawyan but how did the world get recreated After the TDE

[@ObsidianStudios2024]

Is the freedom ending the neutral ending because I got it first try an you supposedly need a guide to get it

[@stealthy9156]

Neutral is supposedly musubi. And it's not that hard to get, refuse all reasons or accept more than 1 and don't be a bitch to the goddess Arabia

[@zombiemassacreify]

Freedom actually a "mild" chaos ending (demon is hard one) since you reject 1 law but not ending the world so your current world is back to as it is, the world where no true law can ammend something or someone

[@bruno17289]

I like how in SMT 4 the include the White ending to let players know the TDE on SMT 3 is the worst possible situation as you destroy everything and everyone in your universe, also stop the cycle of death and rebirth of the universe. I mean you do it to cause one of the most metal wars ever, but still.

[@TheRawyan]

Um…. So there is a thing called SMT V

[@bruno17289]

@@TheRawyan is set on a different universe

[@TheRawyan]

@@bruno17289 conception occurred in said universe

[@jackour8167]

@@bruno17289 it's not, noucturn and 5 are connected

[@jhmejia]

I beat the game and got TDE but I kinda wish I didn’t. I just happened to be grinding the labyrinth at the time 😅

[@jakehamilton4053]

Okay but real talk while I haven’t finished the game yet, it’s a super old game so I ended up reading about it.. … in the demon ending he yells at your heart for being empty… but then the Yosuga ending… correct me if I’m wrong but don’t you kill the human that “gave” you that reason? If the Demi fiend is capable of acting as a surrogate for those reasons… why on earth is the demon ending him being yelled at as incapable? There doesn’t feel like there’s a difference between agreeing and a philosophy versus coming up with your own in this case. It’s still *your* beliefs regardless… so is Kagatsuchi just being a dick? Or…

[@EinFelsbrocken]

In TDE youre "baptized" already a true demon when you approach god

[@jakehamilton4053]

@@EinFelsbrocken I mean I guess that explains all the rage in true demon but…

[@EinFelsbrocken]

@@jakehamilton4053 I know what you mean. It should either be "theyre all dead; no creation possible" or they should explicitly say something along the lines of "demifiend can create; as he is not yet fully demon and inherited the reason from Chiaki/Isamu/Hikawa" But hey; its ambiguous, like the whole game; I guess 😄

[@jakehamilton4053]

@@EinFelsbrocken Demifiend: “I’m gonna beat a new world out of you!” Kagatsuchi: “That’s now how this works! You need a reason-“ Demifiend: *Friekugal’s with world creating intent*

[@EinFelsbrocken]

@@jakehamilton4053 Perfection.