Bugs on a windshield

Show: Stargate SG-1
Season: 1
Episode: 2
Title: The Enemy Within
Original air date: 01/08/1997
Full episode on Stargate SG-1 official channel: • Enemy Within
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In this clip:
Jay Acovone as Major Charles Kawalsky
Richard Dean Anderson as Colonel Jack O'Neill
Don S. Davis as Major General George Hammond
Amanda Tapping as Captain Sam (Samantha) Carter
Michael Shanks as Dr. Daniel Jackson
Gary Jones as Sergeant Walter Harriman

[@1990macano]

They acted so dramatic in the early days, it's kind of nostalgic to be honest :')

[@Axius27]

They don't even activate the self-destruct anymore, they've really relaxed

[@rentabledwarf578]

@@Axius27 I mean, once you killed a few deities you stop giving a shit.

[@aDifferentJT]

At this stage they weren’t sure if the iris would hold them

[@Kenneth45]

I think they realized the iris was pretty effective on its own so they kind of relaxed everything else, lol.

[@Ragitsu]

...uncharted territory.

[@poslednisoud]

"What are your orders, my lord Apophis?" "Just let the gate on for about 3 minutes. I have a feeling the problem will solve itself after that."

[@christopherg2347]

"Bugs on a windshield" even worked better with Atlantis. Cause darts are kinda like Moskitoes. And the shield was see-through.

[@debbiebernhardt5406]

However, the forcefeild tech didn't even come to the stargate of earth because of how long it would be before it breaks.

[@fahlur]

tbh I wish they were able to adapt to that iris system even if it was during the atlantis series or even for an episode in the universe series.

[@christopherg2347]

@@debbiebernhardt5406 The Metal Iris could be overcome. Remember that time Anubis used a superweapon that hyper-charged the gate until it would literally explode? A shield is much more reliable agaisnt unconventional attacks.

[@ThePCguy17]

@@christopherg2347 And yet if you lose power you're suddenly inviting anyone who wants to visit right through your front door. So really the smart thing would probably be to have both available for use. The force field is more useful in more situations, but having no fallback option could prove fatal so an iris is good to have on hand.

[@christopherg2347]

@@ThePCguy17 There is a simple trick to that: Use handhelld black hole energy sources, that way you do not run out of power! Seriously, even without ZPM they could run that thing off a few Naquadah generators they brought from earth.

[@kenp7814]

"I'm not cleaning that" - Sargent Siler

[@rxonmymind8362]

Yo, New airmen go get the mop. 😂

[@deadturret4049]

Yknow if the iris is capable of supressing that first energy blast when a gate opens, youd think they would use it more considering it would effectively erase the occupational hazard of getting vaporized on duty.

[@builder396]

On the bright side: Your boots would survive.

[@christopherg2347]

For all we know, keeping the Iris closed is actually detrimental to the gate. The SGC gate seems to be the only one that has one. It is also the only gate without a DHD, wich caused ocassional issues. Like that time Teal'c finally killed Tanith. The danger of death to the vortex is actually extremely low. You would propably have to run up the ramp and jump into it just to have a shot at dying. And most people wait at the foot of the ramp, wich is as long as the vortex and ends half a person lower.

[@deadturret4049]

@@christopherg2347 Atlantis has a gate shield that is functionally identical to the sgc iris, so technically the earth gate(s) is not the only one with an iris-like device. Id assume the real reason most gates don't have a gate shield is just because having a multitude of shields means anyone using a gate has a high risk of not materializing. No clue how the iris affects the sgc gate though. Also not having a dhd is both a blessing and a curse. Manual dialing takes way longer, but when that one virus took down the stargate network by infecting every dhd, the earth gate remained functional due to using an analog dialing device.

[@christopherg2347]

@@deadturret4049 That makes two gates in two galaxies having something like a Iris. The Ancients were at war with the Wraith while it was installed. So they had a incentive to do it regardelss of any side effects. For the Goa'uld having a few random enemies attack through the gate was little issue. They still had air support on the planet. And there was a lot of Assination Potential, forcing all Goa'ulds to travel via ship. Wich were quite slow before Aphophis attack on earth. And against the Wraith, a gate stop would have only called a Hiveship to "bomb you into the stoneage". Plus the Assasination potential again.

[@wormwoodbecomedelphinus4131]

@@deadturret4049 On the otherhand, it caused problems when the gate experienced a weird power surge when SG team were returning. The connection was forced to a different gate from the energy surge... Earth's original Stargate, buried in the ice of Antartica. With its DHD still operational, the network began prioritizing inbound connection to said gate instead.

[@realMrVent]

Ah, the early days. Where neither the editors nor the actors ever really seemed to know whether the chevrons should always glow or not, wether the blue flickering of the gate should stay on...it's little goofs like these that were ironed out only in time. I still wish we could have had more dialing sequences. That stuff was RAD.

[@landonletterman831]

My man over here, watching Star Trek like, *"Dude,* did you see them *tap that com badge?* _Awesome!"_ Lol, I'm just knockin' ya for no reason. Little details really are important!

[@AgentExeider]

In the episode where the team gets split up due to the gate jumping, the original cut of the episode, there is a split second shot, where there is no CG, and you can see teal'c jumping off the scaffold in front of a green screen, it's a blink and you miss it moment, but holy crap I was like, "That made it into the final cut." They fixed it in subsequent reprints of the series, but I have the original printing.

[@seriascannain6675]

@@AgentExeider I would love to see it! Please send me a link of where to find it? Do you know are extra chevrons added later?

[@ShepardCZ]

All the goaulds had to do was to keep the gate open for 3 minutes.

[@Sybrakos1]

Yeah, but they didnt knew that.

[@sirp0p0]

The 3 minutes was in case something came through and the staff were incapacitated. They would have disabled the self-destruct or restarted the countdown if nothing was getting through before the time was up.

[@viix3815]

Pretty sure there is a time limit.

[@samuelzuleger5134]

@@viix3815 Not sure, but if you are referring to how long the Stargate can stay open, the answer is actually 38 minutes. It becomes relevant in a few episodes. Well, unless a black hole gets involved, then the gravity makes time get all screwy. In fact, in a later episode, the Tau'ri use this information to keep a very specific gate open for a very long time. The show was extremely good at keeping track of, and maintaining, in-universe lore and continuity.

[@zethcader6478]

@@samuelzuleger5134 Not only does time get all screwy, but the gate has a lot of access to energy as well, later on its mainly energy sources that override the time limit

[@Eyetrauma]

Kinsey was always complaining about SGC wasting money, just think of all the ammo they saved thanks to the iris

[@Tank50us]

and if you think it was bad then, imagine what it's like now. Then a box of .50cal rounds probably set ya back 30-50 bucks for 100. Now that same box will cost about $300... plus tax!

[@jamesbizs]

@@Tank50uslol where the hell you buying 50 cal for $3 a piece.

[@Tank50us]

@@jamesbizs If my memory serves, that's the price on the Bass Pro website. You may find them on the PSA website for less though.

[@VideoAmateurLuxembourg]

I am watching season 8 right now. They look so young here.

[@normalmighty]

Try watching 2019 interviews with the cast

[@gavial1448]

exactly

[@kwastek]

my first thought exactly :D

[@CD-Freedom]

This is season 1 Ep 3

[@mikelang4853]

Miau try watching Mcgyver

[@leonkernan]

Interesting that the computer claimed an unrecognised traveller without the wormhole even connecting yet

[@dragonslair951167]

Maybe it was an activation from an unrecognized gate address?

[@Chrisindapurplehouse]

It says that before the final chevron so they know to close the iris.

[@Slacker28]

I think is automatically says that if there is no IDC or the gate activates not on schedule.

[@builder396]

2 faults: Cant be from an unrecognized address, because the gate gets no information on the wormholes origin and thus they cant know where it came from. Also I dont think the gate can transfer radio signals before the wormhole is established. Also, for some reason Chevron 7 is lit up at the beginning, and later on you can see it turn on from an off state.

[@EstrellaViajeViajero]

Yeah, sometimes the gate spins and each chevron locks with an incoming wormhole, other times they all light up instantly and there's no spinning.

[@WillRennar]

My condolences to whoever had to clean off the other side of the Iris.

[@Ragitsu]

That's a lot of carbon.

[@waynecranton4094]

In a deleted scene from the original movie, we get to see the result of this.

[@Meerkat040]

You wouldn't see anything. The iris won't allow matter to fully reintergrate. Its literally explained in the episode this clip is from

[@volrosku.6075]

@@Meerkat040 which logically following that fact would imply that subatomic particles and energy would impact the iris its why a few types of attacks have been semi effective against the iris. that residue would need cleaned off.

[@WillRennar]

@@volrosku.6075 0:44 - Case in point, _something_ hit the iris pretty solidly there. _Ouch._

[@asianfireflie]

Radiation team so brave

[@epiendless1128]

I'm feeling some tension here as the clip doesn't show them _deactivating_ the self-destruct. Also I hope it's not like my microwave - sometimes I set to to 3 seconds when I mean 3 minutes.

[@supersupermao]

What happens when the off button ceases to work

[@Ragitsu]

@@supersupermao Send it to the manufacturer for a replacement; there _is_ a lifetime warranty, after all.

[@mikealvarez8250]

I remember watching this show on Showtime on Friday night in the 90's, so much time has gone by.

[@raven4k998]

it's like bugs on a windshield

[@epiendless1128]

Re: why the gate doesn't vapourise the iris: I think it may have been "A Hundred Days" where rock covering the event horizon stopped the kawoosh forming, and Carter had to bombard the rock with a particle beam to make space for the kawoosh to form.

[@martin-vv9lf]

a better question is why the gate didn't vapourize the cover stones when it was buried.

[@DKNguyen3.1415]

@@martin-vv9lfI think it was mentioned in 100 Days there is a minimum distance for the kawoosh to form. But doesn't seem like the kawoosh is necessary for the wormhole to form.

[@deadturret4049]

Unrelated, but I love how everybody just calls the unstable vortex the "Kawoosh".

[@NUFCMVFC]

Ah another Kowolski scene, really redefines the meaning of the term "recurring actor"

[@davincent98]

I think it's still "Children of the Gods"

[@geoffwilliams4478]

@@davincent98 actually this is the episode AFTER that

[@davincent98]

@@geoffwilliams4478 okay

[@pro_master2486]

I think it is "The Enemy Within", right after "The Children of the Gods"

[@heckinmemes6430]

I always wondered why the Kawoosh didn't destroy the iris. The wormhole eats everything else that gets near it.

[@RyudoFanel]

Gets explained in the series. The iris is just nanometers away from the event horizon. The vortex would form after the iris, but it can't, because the iris blocks it forming.

[@MrMeszaros]

@@RyudoFanel Also, somehow the Nox were able to open the gate on their planet without the vortex, by a wave of hand. So maybe the vortex is not inevitable to the opening of the wormhole.

[@magicalmagicmagician5223]

@@MrMeszaros i heard somebody explain it as when the other advance races opens a wormhole using a Stargate it's akin to something as simple as opening a door While when we and other non advance races open a wormhole using a Stargate it's akin to us essentially using a battery ram to break down a door

[@caelestigladii]

@@magicalmagicmagician5223 then why does atlantis gate have a vortex? The controls for that gate were made by ancients.

[@Locutus494]

If you wondered that, then you obviously didn't watch the show... it's clearly explained NUMEROUS times. And the reason why is a key plot point several times.

[@razorshark9320]

Stargate is so awesome.

[@PR--un4ub]

The spinning truly is the best.

[@dancingmonkey08]

Spinning is so much cooler than not spinning :D

[@TheTSense]

Incoming wormhole = set self destruct of the base

[@HellsRaven4444]

The funny thing is that all they really needed to do is get two mechanical arms to grab the sides of the gate and turn it 90 degrees to the side so that it's facing up. Anything that tries to come through would just fall right back down the gate from gravity. Cheap and simple and can work against even people who can walk through the iris (which doesn't really make sense at all since the Iris prevents a person from rematerialising from the wormhole in the first place)

[@SGtidbits]

Or dig a really deep hole and position the gate downwards.

[@xponen]

@@SGtidbits lol... very mean prank!

[@VideoAmateurLuxembourg]

No. The Goa'ulds had shuttles that can fly.

[@metalzonemt-2]

Only radio waves can go both ways through the wormhole. Living beings would just fall on the floor, since it's incoming wormhole.

[@firstname4337]

did you ever watch the show ? the gate is one way -- there is no "falling back through"

[@scotts918]

"Auto destruct countdown for 3 minutes" Years later someone realises wormholes can be held open for half an hour...

[@sam23696]

That shot at 0:27 is so nice, I swear it's the only time we ever see that shot of the gate.

[@30AndHatingIt]

Haven’t watched in about 10 years, but got some questions/points: 1) Later on, they try to attack the iris. But how would an enemy of Earth ever even know the iris existed in the first place? 2) Say they’re attacking the iris trying to destroy it… couldn’t they disconnect the gate and hover it 100 feet down in some kind of deep water (whether a local lake or man made hole in the ground with water in it) so that anything that comes through drowns? 3) Did they close the iris to ANY unrecognized connection? If so… weren’t they bothered by possibly killing friendly visitors looking to establish contact?

[@DoctorAllanGrey]

1) this is addressed later on with multiple enemies of the Tau'ri realizing they have a Metal Iris protecting the gate and attacking it using particle beams or other methods of overloading the gate. 2) yeah but also moving the gate out of the SGC is a huge pain and wouldn't have worked against say, Anubis' weapon which causes the gate to explode in a giant thermonuclear reaction thanks to the naqueda. 3) yes, they closed the Iris to any unrecognized connection, thus potentially killing friendly visitors looking to establish contact. This is the centerpiece point of an episode early on. Those visitors however, didn't turn out to be too friendly though.

[@Xershade]

"Set the base auto destruct countdown at 3 minutes." So, about that 38 minute time limit the gate can stay open. Man its so weird watching retcons.

[@Dherkin_McGhurken]

Well it's still early for the SGC, so the Iris is still new and the theory behind it wasn't really tested. So if the Goa'uld got past that, got past the turrets, the soldiers and were conquering the base the auto destruct would still go off and collapse the mountain on everyone. Would be better with 5 or 10 minutes to give a better leeway.

[@dubious6718]

Auto destruct is so over-used in this series that it gets absurd "Someone knocks on the door" Activate auto-destruct, oh it was just a seller..

[@UGNAvalon]

Dubious _Knock-Knock_ Hello, would you like to hear about our Lord and Savior Orici- *_AUTO-DESTRUCT_*

[@Jason_Wilhelm]

38 minutes is only the maximum the gate stays open as long as something is passing through it so once there is nothing passing through the gate it will close to concerve power think of it like the screen saver on your computer.

[@bur1t0]

That early in the series they didn't know about the limit.

[@Kyobinoyo]

i always wondered, how did the iris stay intact while everything else that comes in contact with the gates "liquid" disintegrates?

[@gamerboiiiiiii]

Pretty sure the closeness of both the irises (Atlantis's and the SGCs) prevent the umstable vortex from forming all together. Im more curious of how they got the iris *Into* the gate

[@jayluck8047]

Set aside that Walter went against the chain of command by preemptively closing the iris without being ordered to. Wouldn’t they have to dial out again right away - to anywhere - if only to clean the Jaffa goo off the back of the iris?

[@thomasschulz2167]

Bit late to reply, but no. The iris is so close to the event horizon that the gate can't reassemble the object. The impacts that are happening are the energy that couldn't be converted back into matter hitting and dissipating against the iris. It's essentially a pure energy explosion hitting the iris every time there's an impact.

[@joestevenson5568]

Walter's job is to close the iris to invaders. If he doesn't have explicit orders not to - then he should be closing it. And the iris stops the incoming material from materialising at all. There is nothing to clean.

[@Ragitsu]

The music is fantastic.

[@Erin-Thor]

If people get squished and materialized into a fraction of a centimeter space... wouldn’t there be a lot of blood and goo on the back side of the shield to clean up?

[@halander3]

There is something in stargate lore that says if you keep a shield something like a millimeter away from the puddle, the dematerialized matter can't rematerialize and is subsequently destroyed. That is where the term "burying the stargate" comes in, as you just shove the stargate under a shit ton of rubble and everyone that pass through dies.

[@kwastek]

@@halander3 Not really. Burying the stargate means no wormhole can be established. The iris on the other hand, being I think more like a micrometer from the event horizon (I have no idea how they would achieve such precision), prevents incoming object from rematerialization.

[@VideoAmateurLuxembourg]

@@kwastek It would be more humane to set an iris inside the stargate that prevents unwanted vortexes than setting it just behind and wait that people die just like bugs on a windshield.

[@builder396]

@@VideoAmateurLuxembourg But that would prevent wormholes from forming and any SG-Team dialing in out of schedule would simply get no connection and could not send their iris code over at all. Like it is they can dial in and get through normally, but a Goauld still doesnt.

[@jayburn00]

Enough compression heating occurs that they are either vaporized or disintegrated. Or maybe the other side of the iris is a nice pink, red, or brown color 😆.

[@LaciDoszka]

The gate closed but the chevrons are still light :)

[@GreenuniverseEuro]

first few seasons were perfect

[@PR--un4ub]

Seasons 1 through 5 are the best.

[@And-ur6ol]

@@PR--un4ub i don't know... there are some early episodes that are really boring to watch. Like the one where an old guy takes over Daniels body. Cool concept, but man is that episode slow and boring. Or the episode where they make an alien race ill for some reason. it has some cool moments in that episode, but 80% is slow and tedious.

[@PR--un4ub]

@@And-ur6ol Exceptions to the rule, at worst.

[@And-ur6ol]

@@PR--un4ub if you like those episodes. Fine with me. But i did watch as a teenager, and i remember loving the setup and the universe. But by god did i find a few episodes to be chores to get through. I think Daniel wandering around with an old alien in his head was the worst. But hey, Star Trek TNG first two seasons was also a very mixed bag. It is a hallmark of a good show, that the premise is good enough, to survive one or two bad seasons. Pluse season 1 and of SG1 wasn't bad. It just had som bad episodes. Big difference

[@Damocles54]

Yeah "radiation team, move in".... that would have been me. 😵‍💫

[@kno6ndg7]

С точки зрения физики, потенциальный эффект от падения материального объекта на ирис был бы сравним с взрывом ядерной бомбы как минимум. Можно даже посчитать, какая энергия выделилась бы.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

a scientist like sam using such a definite word as "impenetrable" worries me

[@umbertobelladelli2721]

they were lucky goaulds didn't wait for standard 38 minutes

[@Downtime-33]

"Sgt Sylar to the gate room to clean the iris"

[@kenp7814]

Who has to clean the back side of the iris?

[@A._2byxr]

Lol bugs on a windshield clean that off ha ha good one

[@deadturret4049]

The canon answer is nobody because nothing rematerialized. The fun answer is Sgt. Siler

[@iraclown9090]

If only they had had that iris when Apophis came through the first time.

[@imofage3947]

The Iris is a good plot device, but the mechanics don't work. There'd have to be a significant recess in the gate for them to install the leaves and mechanical components. And the manual iris control is just absurd. It would have been more believable if there was more visible hardware attached to the gate or sections of a lid on mechanical arms.

[@Daehawk]

Always wondered how the gate activated with the iris in place. And other than Atlantis why do no other ancient gates have a iris...either physical or energy?

[@TheAgamemnon911]

I would guess the ancients didn't need gateshields in the milky way, since they were - at least for some time - the only faction with any military power. Anubis added one to at least one of his planets gates. And we don't get shown every failed attempt of sending a MALP. Maybe there were quite a few gates with irises around but a closed door makes for a very uninteresting story.

[@zalenka-387]

The iris was built by the Tau ri the aincents didn’t need them because in Pegasus they had the gate shield and in Milky Way they were the only technologically advanced civilisation

[@gerardfogarty1463]

The Planet Tartarus had a Force Field preventing uninvited travellers! One Planet used a facility that forwarded people to another Stargate

[@wormwoodbecomedelphinus4131]

Based upon comments and information... the Stargate network is an invention of convenience rather than necessity. Besides the Ori, the Ancients didn't have any major wars before the Wraith and Replicators. So shields were largely pointless - accidental gate activation was extremely rare when the Ancients first set up and configured it.

[@FluffyFooFookins]

@Mikkel The Red. The problem is a stargate activation is meant to be a powerful blast that only becomes under control when the wormhole stabilizes. In the last season an Ori mothership was destroyed by a supergate activating when the blast of a modified nuclear bomb would only scratch their shields. I don't buy the Iris not being destroyed when a gate activates, I think it's something that should be deployed after someone has already dialed in.

[@lybiouskibig4763]

IS THAT THE FKN HALO ARMOR SOUND EFFECT

[@Grim-HEX]

its older than Halo, soooo

[@wakkywabbit5446]

Thanks

[@SGtidbits]

You're welcome

[@dom7day]

Meanwhile the self-destruct is still counting down while they chat

[@ZMT4LIFE]

Did anyone wonder how the shield was never destroyed by the expanding stargate?

[@TheCurle]

When closed, the iris forms a barrier less than 3 μm from the wormhole's event horizon, thereby preventing most forms of matter from properly reintegrating - including the kawoosh

[@SuckMyGreasyPrick]

Its made out of plastic... duh

[@rogelioregalado2032]

Why doesn't the gate de atomize the shield when it starts up

[@SGtidbits]

Supposedly because the iris is placed so close to the point where the wormhole forms so that it doesn't allow the "kawoosh" to form. It is mentioned in one of the episodes but I'm not sure which. Perhaps the one where the iris was first used. Maybe even this episode.

[@Xershade]

It would if the Iris was partially closed/open. The basic principle is it stops the gate from materializing anything that includes the vortex. They did this in 100 days when the gate got buried while active. Carter made a laser to melt a small hole in the barrier, then re-dialed the gate and the vortex did the rest from there. The vortex only needs a tiny space to start forming, otherwise it's suppressed/destroyed like anything else that tries to come out of the gate.

[@NUFCMVFC]

@@Xershade generally reasonable...but we also wouldn't have whatever is semi-materialising and thudding against the Iris for dramatic impact forming either?

[@johnfranklin4038]

@@NUFCMVFC It's not semi-materializing, it's still in energy form when it impacts the shield and there is a LOT of energy in even a small amount of matter, so big BOOM when that energy hits an immovable object, like the shield.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Carter said the iris was a few microns or micrometers away from the gate puddle so it wouldn't dematerialize it.

[@John.S92]

0:12 looks like the props dept. forgot the lights after they added the 'iris' prop over the gate. Edit: hah, aand in around 1:00 where they forgot to turn off the lights again or at least modify the scene in post production as the "disengage" sound effect came in before that.

[@NUFCMVFC]

Thing that got me was the Event Horizon should have melted the Iris shield. Shield should activate right as the event horizon is contracting

[@SGtidbits]

This is addressed in one of the episodes. Samantha Carter mentions that the iris is positioned so close to the point where the wormhole forms that it prevents the kawoosh from being able to form.

[@NUFCMVFC]

@@SGtidbits Yeah fair enough, like the otherwise inexplicable explanation that everyone speaks English because of nanites it does the job of enabling suspension of disbelief...except the Gu'auld and Jaffa who say Cree a lot. Issue there of course is that whatever or whoever is making that "thud" noise wouldn't be able to semi-materialise sufficiently to make that noise...

[@Cx10110100]

@@SGtidbits Didn't they move it closer in one of the episodes to prevent gate from working at all?

[@SGtidbits]

@@Cx10110100 Hmmm... I don't recall that happening specifically.

[@Cx10110100]

@@SGtidbits it was either Baal or Anubis messing with the gate again so they (well, it was Carters idea) wanted to prevent him from doing so once the gate closes i dont remember the exact episode though

[@knghtbrd]

I just think it's funny how in the early days the IDC is known or not before the wormhole is established that would allow you to transmit it or not.

[@Calmputer]

then ... Walter accidentally set the base auto-destruct to 3 seconds instead of 3 minutes. *BOOM*

[@dancingmonkey08]

"I feel so stup....." BOOM

[@amandahugankiss4110]

They wouldn't know their forces are being negated like that.

[@30AndHatingIt]

That’s what I was thinking. They would just assume they got killed fighting or something is wrong and they can’t dial back.

[@timwright1563]

Thank you

[@jamesr7637]

Meanwhile no one gave the command to stop the auto destruct sequence... and it just continues to count towards 0.

[@Shadowshard73]

If an opening gate could vaporize starships, then why doesn't it vaporize their iris when it activates?

[@gnack420]

They do explain that away somehow in the show, but I can't remember what the explanation is. But basically it boils down to 'because it's convenient for the plot' which is fair enough. Even great shows sometimes make concessions like that.

[@jakubatube]

They explained it as that the iris closes a few microns away from the event horizon, therefor the swoosh doesnt disintergrate it, because the swoosh is never formed(or something along those lines)If your hit by the swoosh, well bye bye 😉

[@Catubrannos]

@@jakubatube Which makes the point of a vortex pointless.

[@michaelvedal1907]

@@Catubrannos Indeed, but it is an explanation at least. Also, if you listen when the gate activates while the iris is closed, you can CLEARLY hear that the Kawoosh is there.. lol.. but I guess that is the sound effect for "Gateway established" or something..

[@joestevenson5568]

@@Catubrannos There isn't a point to the vortex. Its a side effect of the forming wormhole.

[@RurouniKalainGaming]

Aye, in the beginning it's all "Okay, we going to blow up real fast in just a sec." Later. "Eh."

[@kevinjasper6620]

SPLAT ! lol

[@flisko123]

why they dont just turn off the gate for some time

[@icer1249]

The goauld could of eliminated the tauri threat from the start. Just had to leave the gate active for 3mins and 1 second. Self destruct would take care of the rest

[@icer1249]

if that was the case why set the self destruct before the gate even activates. Theres better ways to ensure the base is secure then resetting a self destruct every 3 mins, especially considering the gate can remain open a lot longer (at the time they didn't know about any limit so indefinitely as far as there concerned)

[@ranwolf7650]

I always wondered: what's to keep anyone/thing from coming in through the other side of the gate? was there ever an explanation?

[@Tilnaor]

somewhen got mentioned that if there is a barrier very close to the event horizon, the sent thing cannot materialize on the other side.

[@ranwolf7650]

​@@Tilnaor I mean the back side of the gate, the opposite side from the iris

[@Meerkat040]

@@ranwolf7650 You mean whats stopping someone from walking around to the other side of the gate and just walking through the back side? Pretty sure the gates are one way. and theres only one facing entrance/exit. If you were to go around to the back of the gate and step through, pretty sure it be death. Not sure its ever explained but visually if you were to go around to the back of the gate, the event horizon is ever so slightly see through, that could be concluded that its not a useable side. The evidence that I have for why its probably dangerous to use the back of the gate is because we never see anyone walk through it the entire franchise, the unspoken reason is because it probably means death. Also in one of the SG1 books (Which are Non-Canon), Bratac makes a comment about a Jaffa walking through the back of the gate. He quotes "his death was most unpleasant"

[@deadturret4049]

​@ranwolf7650 Theres a throwaway line somewhere that implies that going through through the back of the gate caused things to reassemble backwards, so youd basically just turn into a puddle of human goo.

[@marshmallowmonster7731]

00:48 Relatable.

[@jnwestray78]

I know right. Even Troi and Seven gave it up once in a while, but Carters iris was always closed.

[@VideoAmateurLuxembourg]

I'm just wondering something. There are 2 star gates on Earth. The one in the Antarctic had a DHD, so why didn't the gate on the Antarctic prime on the gate in the SGC?

[@francoislacombe9071]

They explain that it's the powered one that responds, that would be the one a SGC.

[@VideoAmateurLuxembourg]

@@francoislacombe9071 Uh doesn't the star gate that receives a wormhole get its power from the other star gate that dials the destination?

[@francoislacombe9071]

@@VideoAmateurLuxembourg Yes, but the way I understood it, stargates act like giant capacitors and retain some of that power after the wormhole shuts down. So the stargate at SGC has lots of reserve power because it's being used a lot, while the one in Antarctica was completely depleted because it sat unused for so long. Therefore, it was the SGC stargate that responded to incoming wormholes.

[@VideoAmateurLuxembourg]

@@francoislacombe9071 All right. The star gate at the SGC originates from Egypt where is was buried to stop the Goa'ulds to cross it, why didn't the Goa'ulds use the other star gate in Antarctica?

[@francoislacombe9071]

@@VideoAmateurLuxembourg Maybe they did, but then they would have ended up in Antarctica's frozen wasteland, not a very interesting place to be in. Also, Earth was in Ra's domain, so the other system lords would have hesitated to go there before he was killed.

[@Cx10110100]

How come the energy blast from the stargate can evaporate metal, flesh, and all other kinds of stuff (provided its not blocked off completely) but does nothing to the iris?

[@captianzitroneneis9562]

The iris is so close to wormholes event horizon that the vortex ( energy blast) can't be established

[@MKcLTM]

0:16 they used the pressing button sequence from first stargate movie - first startgate run (kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXXWYXeIeLOLhJY 0:34)

[@AgentExeider]

Yeah it's because they over used it, like ALOT in the first and second season, I'm told around the third season, they called all the "gate techs" in and filmed a bunch of stock footage for later use. hands typing on keyboards, flipping switches, etc. Also the production team over the years spent like a millions dollars making all the dialing computer/mainframe stuff actually work. In short, you could type in any addres, and the rack and pinion drive along with an electronic eye that's in the gate, will spin to whatever symbols you picked and the entire gate prop will work like it should, and the computer will show the proper animations and everything and all this will be in sync with one another, the gate lights up, the light that replicates the puddle shimmer comes on, everything. Basically the stargate prop and control room is one gigantic toy that actually works, i mean minus actually creating wormholes.

[@b33thr33kay]

@@AgentExeider I never heard of this, it sounds incredibly cool!

[@Ragitsu]

Who does the cleaning? Sergeant Sylvester "Squeegee" Siler?

[@Violent2aShadow]

Honestly, the iris is kind of boring. I would have suspended the gate over a pit of lava with a draw bridge.

[@RobsonRoverRepair]

Shouldn't the event horizon have wiped out the "eye" shield once gate was dialed?

[@SGtidbits]

The iris is mounted so close to the event horizon that it doesn't allow the vortex (kawoosh as they call it) to form.

[@Catubrannos]

@@SGtidbits Which means no connection is made so nothing could come through. The vortex seems like a safeguard to ensure there is somewhere safe to end up on the other side. That's why gate covers have to be close to the frame, any gap allows the vortex to form.

[@Turboy65]

Imagine being on the team who has to clean the guts off the back side of that iris. Now, tell me, why does that iris withstand the energy splash that comes out of the gate and destroys literally all OTHER kinds of matter that get in front of it? What's that thing made of? I want a pocket knife made of the same stuff.

[@SGtidbits]

The iris is placed so close to the event horizon, that it won't allow the "kawoosh" to form, so there is no special kind of material used for it. I believe it's titanium. As to scrubbing stuff off the back of it, that's an interesting notion...

[@MrPhil94]

@@SGtidbits First Iris is made out of titanium, then after it's destroyed in the episode A Matter of Time it's replaced by Iris made out of trinium titanium alloy. Iris is 3 µm from the event horizon so it does not allow matter to be reconstructed

[@Catubrannos]

How does the vortex open with the iris? If anything goes through then the gate is open. For the gate to open the vortex would need to be created and that should vaporise the iris which it doesn't. Even if possible, if jaffa or whatever are being sent though then there should be a wet puddle of body bits forming under the grating of the gate platform as the "bug" remains slide off the back of the iris and drip down. I understood the iris acted as a barrier to the gate opening. An unauthorised opening would see the iris closing over the active gate to prevent anything materialising properly on the SGC side. Once the gate closed a connection couldn't be reestablished from the other side as the gate system would register the Earth gate as closed (ignoring the second gate) so no thumping dramas. That also means the SGC has a window to open their gate to somewhere else as regardless of how long it takes them to dial out, with the iris in place no one can dial in while they're dialing.

[@1234andrewjacksmith]

The iris portal can be created without the vaporising kadosh and the gate is too close for that to from so just the portal itself forms and mater itself can't form but energy is still shot through, this is a point where they need to deal with a cave in blocking the gate and so use a laser and basically cut a small gap and then redial so the kadosh shoots out and vaporises, In short the iris is just in front of the portal enough to stop the vapoursing blast but not in it so it gets destroyed by the forming portal( admitilly thus is probably the wrong noise since the whole point of the iris is it is so close to the gate matter can't form but that is the point of the radiation team,) Atlantis had a much better noise and thing with the shield

[@Grunt9207]

I still want to know how they know it's not an SG team before the wormhole open.

[@Yashiv88]

Generally it would be a scheduled or unscheduled offworld activation. And at this point there were probably no other SG teams off world.

[@Yashiv88]

But also the writing was a bit inconsistent in the early episodes

[@gamerboiiiiiii]

The moment the gate starts activating the computer starts looking for a IDC and until they reveice one the iris stays closed, and the traveler remains inactive

[@mrmalcolm]

My question how does the iris stop the unstable vortex?

[@845835]

Plot convenience, which this show's writers used often.

[@Nopperabou]

3 minutes is a bit tight

[@marcusevonblade2804]

isnt the part that sticks out of the stargate suppose to basically disintregrate anything it touches, if so how does it not affect the iris

[@SGtidbits]

The iris is placed so close to the event horizon that it doesn't allow the vortex (kawoosh) to form.

[@Catubrannos]

Better yet, a lot of the gates appear to be set into the ground so instead of the inside of the gate being round, there is a flat platform at the bottom. This should have been gouged out by the vortex.

[@joestevenson5568]

@@Catubrannos The vortex is not the full diameter of the gate

[@tomwatson9032]

I thought the Iris came a lot later in the show?

[@SGtidbits]

I believe it was in the very first episode. Just not in the movie.

[@Ragitsu]

0:25 -> "Don't mess with Texas."

[@johnlove6206]

Can some wone tell me way the wave don t penetrate the titan sheeld as I now is pure titan but not the very strong wone for a worm holl. In this theys they discover a new material muche mor strong then titan is like gold with titan!!!!!!!

[@SGtidbits]

The "kawoosh" (as they call it) doesn't form because the titanium iris is placed extremely closed to the point where the event horizon (the water-like stuff) is formed. That is the explanation they give in the show anyway. Hope that helps you.

[@johnlove6206]

@@SGtidbits Strange because the molecular atoms ar distrupted from the instable energii in the beganing open the stargate .

[@johnlove6206]

@@SGtidbits And allsow haw you can put a sheeld ther when it will be suk from the odher side you can t finde a midle point .Strange againe!!!!!!

[@johnlove6206]

@@SGtidbits I am aspecting mor from you!!!!!

[@therobot1080]

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