Building a 1000HP Coyote on a Budget - Gen 3 Short Block in a Gen 1 Coyote

Building a Gen 3-1-1 Engine for the Terminator Cobra! We used Apex Torque 12mm Head Studs: apextorque.com/shop/ford/coyo...
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[@adrb2777]

This is exactly what I need. Thanks very much again for the great info

[@triston2735]

WARNING! Do not use apex headstuds! They will fail!! Multiple failures reported even on N/A engines. Please only use ARP

[@redstang70]

Just watched the video where the motor let go a head on the dyno..looks like you are correct.

[@triston2735]

@@redstang70 Yep I have experience with the apex headstuds failing. Someone actually sent me the fail video knowing it was probably the headstuds

[@damienwilliams9183]

I never heard of anyone using anything but ARP. Sheeesh

[@badboosted89]

Any 12mm stud that torques to 65ft lbs is garbage. I wish people could understand torque yield to stop giving these companies money. They stock bolts would hold up better

[@Thestoicwarrior0112]

It’s was probably a sponsor because there is no way they would use them other wise. It also why they explained how easy they are to torque them.

[@paulhudgins5120]

You guys are back to the grind, a ton of stuff going on. This looks like a awesome build for the Terminator Cobra, are you going back with a performance built 6R80 trans? Can't wait for the Fox and the Cobra to hit the streets.

[@rickpaquin7951]

El chopo is gone. Can’t wait to see the replacement. Love all your content Andrew.

[@dugganracecraft]

So a fun fact about parts numbers, the numbers you referred to about the cams is called the “base part number” which is the same for all V oriented engines that have 4 cams. The 4 numbers and letters at the beginning are the model of vehicle/trim it was intended for and the letters at the end are the revision of the part. I didn’t know that until recently lol

[@wesleycooper4842]

Been watching your channel for a little over 2 years now. Third time watching this video already and love what you do to the mustangs. On my second s197 full bolt on build and I need this set up in 2012 coyote, in need of a gen 3 block in SC area. Any chance on getting y’all to do my 3-1-1 build 😅

[@ryanfreeman5987]

Great video guys.

[@2003cobramustang]

This coyote engine is gonna be a beast!!

[@stephenalexander2427]

Congratulations!

[@jessiefarough6508]

What did you do for wiring harness since it’s a gen 3 block with gen 1 heads-I’ve been readingrg everywhere you cant use a terminator x or any gen1/2 control packs on a gen 3 motor…..is it a matter of putting gen 1 heads on to use those control packs? Could be a straight up gen 3 control pack I suppose from ford….or maybe you used a donor with an aftermarket ecu and converted your donor harness into a diy standalone? Just trying to find out since I picked up a gen 3 block I’m swapping into my sn95 body style and would love to avoid spending 2500-3000 on a control pack

[@jerrenb...]

So 6r80 fits with out any modification?

[@hugoraven23]

how hard is it to install the cams correctly?

[@luislugo4951]

I have a RXT 1200whp clutch for 2011-2017 can I use it with the gen 3 block ? Thanks

[@nelsongrubb8620]

What is the difference between the 2 valve block from the 4 valve? Are the heads interchangeable?

[@joshwayne371]

Did you use Gen 1, 2, or 3 timing components? Thanks and love the channel! Yall are super informative!

[@bnkrdbones4391]

The cams are the timing components so I’m their case it’s gen 1 timing

[@avspecter2268]

Can anyone explain what exactly is needed for a 3-1-1 build for a first gen 2012 coyote mustang

[@ericanderson3308]

What do i need to swap a 2019 f150 coyote in my 2014 ? Can you do gen 3 long block with gen 1 timing ?

[@sabinoguzman7780]

Turbo 400 👀👀👀 on the cobra trans break ??????

[@rustywater3219]

Do coyotes have the same issue with removing the drivers valve cover like gt500 owners have?

[@frozenstang3868]

Not sure if you heard of the Kinetic crank saver stud made by ARP for Kinetic but looks like a really good idea. As always great info, lets go racing.

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

I have used it on several builds including el Choppo and OG.

[@frozenstang3868]

@@MustangLifestyleTV Dang why did it take so long to hear about this😁 I try to keep up ,must be my selective hearing.

[@thatguysayz]

Sweet!

[@Coyote9smilespergallon]

Those gears won’t usually break unless you drop/throw them separate

[@kavonroberts4724]

Why do you chose gen 1 parts over gen 3 im building a gen 3 for my thunderbird lx im just wondering why you prefer gen 1 parts

[@jeffklonowski6816]

@mustang lifestyle have you ever thought about getting one of those ford barra engines? That swap in a new edge or a fox would be cool to see.

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

It’s on the list of something I want to do

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

@@Jsmith9619 yup I saw that video

[@alyazeedi3054]

I got same this project in my mustang gt 2012

[@zaksrdanovich9649]

Is gen 1 better? I have 26k miles on my 2012

[@Mike-bb1li]

Very nice! Question- Do you have line lock on your mustang? Thanks!

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

I have not had line lock in any of my mustangs before except s550s that come with it stock

[@Coyote9smilespergallon]

I think they should’ve had the heads surfaced, but I know takes for ever now, but I didn’t on my gt500 5.4 and I had the tiniest leak in high boost after a few k miles… but Andrew definitely knows what he’s doing

[@paulcurtsinger8346]

Is the gen 3 short block f150 or mustang??

[@wile.emario8957]

Starting from a bare block, what sebsors do i need to pick up? Also the gen3 has 2 different kinds of injection, if i went gen 3 block with gen2 heads and intake do i need to have both kinds of injection or can i eliminate the Direct Injection and just stick with the port injection. I wanna start building but wanna get more information before i start. Wanna swap my SN95.

[@IG-DM.5.0]

The direct injection is in the heads. Meaning since you have gen 2 heads you don’t have to deal with direct injection

[@1BAD14GT]

Ive got the same setup 3.1.1. Was wondering if you calculated what compression would be using gen1 heads on gen3 block. I know gen3 says 12:1 but since gen1 heads have a different volume was wondering what it may be??

[@themilkman4u]

Were you able to get an answer on the ge3 and gen 1 heads compression ratio? I'm curious about it as well 🤔

[@1BAD14GT]

@@themilkman4u I never got a response.

[@marcozr3138]

I heard gen 2 heads cant take 12.1 compression im not sure though i wouldent do a 12.1 imo

[@five0gio503]

do you need a gen 1 or gen 3 crank sprocket?

[@StillNoPickles69]

@@marcozr3138false

[@TheBigShabowski]

I am doing a 321 build with vct deletes. Which timing cover can I use?

[@TheBigShabowski]

I want to keep the alternator on the bottom left

[@valdo_s1975]

Question if anyone can answer can I use gen 1 rotating assembly in a gen 3 block?

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

I believe the bore of gen 3 is slightly different. Why would you want to?

[@justinfahnestock5067]

You should play around with the 2.3L and 2.7L and 3.5L ecoboost engine I always wanted to put the 2.7L in a Ford Contour SVT

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

If I’m doing anything non v8 it’s going to be a Barra.

[@Tyee2]

ECOBOOST is junk, nobody wants that😂

[@justinfahnestock5067]

Yeah I agree with that engine not enough in America

[@baxinst4102]

@Outlaw Agreed, good for people with casual builds but for people that wanna go fast you need something way better than a ecoboost. And they dont make for great content either cause of this

[@justinfahnestock5067]

I disagree especially because all you saying that makes it more interesting

[@cosmicdonkey919]

Did you guys use the gen 1 or gen 3 oil filter housing. Asking because I’m gen 3 short block swapping my 2012 GT

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

Gen 1

[@gonzalozavala9114]

​​​@@MustangLifestyleTV how you can install the gen1 oil filter base on the gen3 block ? Because the stock gen3 base got four bolts ,and gen1 just 3, I got one hole out ,help pls ,i come from chile and im making this franken too 🙏

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

@@gonzalozavala9114 I misspoke here. The gen 1 oil filter housing will bolt in but it is different and will leak. You need a gen 2

[@gonzalozavala9114]

@@MustangLifestyleTV Done boss ,all good ,start and setting 473,8hp ond dyno 💥💥💣 natural aspirate ,short block gen3 cilinder heads gen1 ,intake gen 3 ,long headers and booom

[@tim_misfitmfg]

What’s the “go-to” budget 1000hp injector?

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

FIC1000cc -800-900whp at 55 PSI of base pressure.

[@douchedidit9222]

Idk a lot about swap stuff BUT u said that’s a truck pan and mustang pickup?? U learned the hard way with the 2valve just making sure u did ur homework

[@adrb2777]

My friend, I live in Florida and I need some help for my 2005 gt manual transmission Coyote swap. I wish I can get in contact with you for some parts , all I have is the Coyote engine and the control pack from PBH

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

[e-mail]

[@dailylife3975]

Why gen 1 coyote heads versus gen 3 or Gen 2

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

Just availability that’s all. Gen 2 would be preferred but out of stock and expensive right now

[@ryanfreeman5987]

Quick question…I’m sure I already know this answer however would you ever suggest putting a 1000hp in a coyote without a return style fuel system? Several people trying to convince me a fuel system isn’t needed lol.

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

I don't understand your question... If you are swapping a Coyote into something with a Coyote control pack you need a return fuel system to ensure you have 55 psi of rail pressure and for it to run properly.

[@ryanfreeman5987]

@@MustangLifestyleTV sorry I was not clear. S550 friend of mine was saying that you can have a 1000hp coyote and do not have to install a return style fuel system. I’m saying it’s a need to produce that much hp. Hope that helps.

[@jeffbarrett4478]

I guess when he doesn't know the question it's ignored lol

[@169abr]

@@ryanfreeman5987if you’re making 1000 you’re boosted and on E85. You HAVE to have a Return Style system to run E with boost, let alone 1000whp levels of boost. Your friend’s dangerously misinformed.

[@midnight347]

​@@169abrthis lol. People aren't very smart sometimes.

[@five0gio503]

did you guys use a gen 1 crank sprocket or gen 3 ?

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

yes

[@five0gio503]

@@MustangLifestyleTVgen 1 or gen 3 ?

[@justinfahnestock5067]

You have enough stuff laying around I think you should do another giveaway car/F150 just promote it and build it doesn't start till you hit 200k subscribers keep pushing that over and over to your satisfied with your subscriber number..

[@dannotwalruslarkin9324]

Early gang

[@joeyg1170]

By the looks of the intake flanges on those heads those are Gen 2 heads no??

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

Good eye. One is gen 2 and one is gen 1. Ford did this in late 14. One of my latest videos I had to cut the head flange to fit my predator blower

[@joeyg1170]

@@MustangLifestyleTVI did not know this! Just came across your channel and gonna subscribe. I blew my Gen 1 boosted and was surfing KZbin on what to do. I would like to do a Gen 3 shortblock and was wondering if I could re use my Gen 1 heads. Just need to match gasket to heads

[@joeyg1170]

@@MustangLifestyleTValso how is this setup working for you?

[@randygreer5491]

Physics TPI and tensile Y

[@mikeclark740]

It's going to be a

[@mikeclark740]

It's going to be a ripper buddy can't wait my phone's f'ing up I'm sorry 😐 i

[@Prochargedbeast]

Furst

[@robertoortiz85]

Should’ve used a better torque wrench

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

The Tekton 1/4" one is great. We have a few larger torque wrenches here and they all work. I'd like to get one of the snap on ones but they are pricy

[@heyyo_hurt]

Gt500 gone bye bye, cant wait to see what's next

[@heyyo_hurt]

That engine sounds nasty, trans cant keep up with it

[@ImNotHereToArgueFacts]

Coyote on a budget...😂

[@devincrawford1646]

Why the gen 1 heads? Why not just delete the DI if you’re worried about it.

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

Doesn’t work like that

[@devincrawford1646]

@@MustangLifestyleTV Aren’t there D.I delete kits on the market?

[@MustangLifestyleTV]

@@devincrawford1646 it’s been done on like 2 cars successfully. This is gen 1 control pack. Heads are not directly compatible

[@shotemup123]

From ford you can get a gen 3 shortblock for $2700... why would I spend another $700 to get one from your website? 😐🙄

[@Hardwaretuned]

yeah 2700 with a 500 dollar core charge. This guys price seems to be the best i've seen

[@shotemup123]

@@Hardwaretuned then you have to pay for shipping. When I can drive to a ford dealer and pick it up.

[@Hardwaretuned]

@@shotemup123 what’s the final Price from ford? I’m sources a block right now.

[@Hardwaretuned]

@@shotemup123 these guys are beating every dealership in my entire city. Not one dealership Can match this price.

[@jayglosson8184]

Gen 1 heads???? Gen 2 for the win

[@dugganracecraft]

The difference in power on 22 psi will negligible between 1 and 2 heads lol

[@baxinst4102]

availability was a probably he said

[@169abr]

Good luck finding Gen 2 anything that isn’t a crank-a-pallet

[@Hardwaretuned]

gen 2 heads flow 4% better thats it. This is more then capable to make power

[@boostedperformance4529]

Why Apex instead of arp?

[@jamesbrown4374]

What would you guys charge to sell this build. I want to drop gen3 with gen one heads in my 2012 fx4