Building a Fuel Train Line for the Firewood Update in Railroads Online!

Hey everyone and welcome back to more Railroads Online! Today we are rushing to build a firewood line off the main depot area as the devs have updated the game! This update changes the firewood supply station which now requires wood to produce fuel for our trains! @DapperEcho
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[@giddycadet]

I can't believe nobody is talking about Dapper's kinkshaming joke, it's so good

[@pws3rd170]

I laughed way too hard. Kan and his friends often catch me completely off guard with some of their jokes

[@astropenguin5448]

Now people are! And it was really good

[@panther-nk2hn]

Time stamp? I have no clue where that is in the video.

[@sid-ly7py]

Ikr

[@metricfuse7140]

8:04 is dappers joke.

[@camcar_]

If you don't have firewood in any trains, use the rail handcart and some log cars

[@martonwirth2975]

That's what I was gona say

[@Pyrrhist]

Can you couple carriges to the hand cart?

[@disconnected7843]

Lol

[@thegamingtiger5010]

I though about that but i am broke had like 25$ so i was kinda f*cked

[@ValentineC137]

@@Pyrrhist no

[@GrandProtectorDark]

2:25 The Handcar is still a thing tho. Fueled by raw manual labor power

[@dorianmus6771]

Can it tow though?

[@afoxwithahat7846]

@@dorianmus6771 it seems like it, it's just slow as hell

[@Chaos42666]

except it can't climb even the tiniest of grades unless it's gotten an update too >.>

[@Maake986]

@@dorianmus6771 I haven't tried it, but from what I saw, it doesn't appear to have any hitches on it, but I did see like a tiny basket on it, perhaps just for wood?

[@erumaaro6060]

@@Maake986 the basket is for firewood, ironically...

[@Terajoel]

Guys, have you completely forgotten about the Draisine (Hand operated train) in the turn table yard?😂 it doesn‘t need any fire wood, nobody need to delete their world. The devs did think it through, you just didn’t 😂 Btw this is my favorite series on YT rn, I am checking multiple times a day if there’s a new vid😂

[@laurensholthof]

I was screaming this at my monitor, really frustrating

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

Soo you're gonna haul cargo with that?

[@laurensholthof]

@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 1 car is enough to jump start a train, so yes

[@BryanFritchie]

@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 Is there a choice?

[@krijndees]

@@BryanFritchie already got updated they now spawn full with wood when you place them just like water towers and after that you need to supply it with wood

[@Nomiswelt]

I actually didn't have any firewood at all when this update came out, so I used the rerail tool to bring a flatbed car to the logging camp where I could load logs and directly unload them into a firewood depot on the other side of the track. So you're not completely screwed if you don't have any firewood

[@SylviaRustyFae]

Thats one way to avoid using the handpump cart

[@ehsn]

I was going to suggest just that as a workaround if someone runs out of firewood. Glad I wasn't the only one who throught that solution.

[@coby8312]

I would never of thought of this cuz I'm dumb af

[@Nevir202]

I was wondering, if you have money, can't you buy a new train? Don't they come fueled?

[@SylviaRustyFae]

@@Nevir202 They said in the vid that they come empty, tho i wudnt be shocked if they changed that in the future; even tho the handcranked cart exists.

[@henryfeng840]

24:08 as a matter of fact, freight break men do run on top of cars to turn/release the break of each car as necessary until air breaks came out. if you have to be a break man, I recommend you be a passenger break men.

[@Knallteute]

Exactly. Especially because you coulndt break just the front and end because that would break the links.

[@hudsonlong5001]

To add to this the brakeman’s cab was just a tiny building on the back of the last car for the brakeman to sit in Edit: grammar

[@StewPedassle]

Not only that, but they would make several trips to set the brakes because you can’t just apply full brakes one car at a time or else you wear components too hard. So, you’d apply, say 25% on your first trip down, 50% on the way back, etc.

[@lebinator9565]

FYI It's brakeman because he sets the brakes not breaks. Caboose is the North American term, brakevan is the European term. The caboose was used as a shelter for crew at the end of the train needed for switching, watching over the train, and in this era setting brakes on cars. It also served as an office for the conductor who was in charge of the train. Later on when airbrakes became standard the brakeman no longer needed to go car to car setting brakes and took on other roles.

[@jm0lesky]

@@lebinator9565 George Westinghouse put alot of brakeman out of work when he invented the airbrake system but he sure cut down on loss of lives.

[@lillian6023]

Ah yes, now we can no longer have limitless firewood without providing raw materials. Lovely.

[@GimbleOnDew]

But we now have unlimited money. Deliver cordwood to a firewood depot right next to the lumbermill

[@lillian6023]

@@GimbleOnDew that's.... genius.

[@ValentineC137]

@@GimbleOnDew we already had that before :D

[@joncrones8909]

You should be able to get firewood from trees

[@EiriUesugiKun]

Aand now we can again.

[@TwistedGS]

This has become my new favorite series of all time. This is also the second time a video came out right after I was thinking about it, wishing a new vid comes out soon lol

[@mrjucise1469]

Same

[@disconnected7843]

Me two

[@MonsterJ-mv7nv]

Ye

[@quantumconciousscorner2911]

Funny that every time i think a person i am subbed to is gonna put a video out. they put one out what are the odds

[@nic2097]

Luckily for you, he usually uploads a video every day

[@tomsgaming6326]

The first truck/lorry was invented in Germany in 1896 and built by the German automotive pioneer, Damlier. The lorry featured a 4 horsepower engine with 2 forward speeds and 1 reverse speed.

[@SylviaRustyFae]

Not sure about truck specifically... But steam powered automobiles have existed since the mid 18th century >.> Heck, even prior to the model T (of 1908), electric vehicles were gaining popularity and in use by nearly 40% of the driving population. However, quickly lowering gas/petrol prices thanks to newfound oil deposits and better refinement methods combined with better internal combustion engine developments that made it so that gas/petrol automobiles ended up becoming the mainstream method of travel and quickly left their very slow (and rather low distances of travel in case of electric) steam and electric counterparts behind.

[@pascal2085]

@@SylviaRustyFae What also killed the electric motor was the electric motor. Old time ICE had to be hand cranked, which was not only hard, but also dangerous. At some point the electric motor was so far developed that it could start an ICE.

[@niro571]

They did actually run along the top doing the hand brakes on cars, depending on the load/gradient they'd apply brakes to say every couple or every other for example

[@themicrowave9835]

The “Brakeman’s car” is the living quarters for the brakeman who walks up and down the top of the train to actually hand crank each individual car. However, to eliminate the need to walk on top the train, a brake van was developed to have the braking centered in the back of the train (for the same reason front wheel drive cars were made: because pulling is more efficient than pushing). The brake van would have a single hand cranked emergency brake that can be applied at different strengths to supply extra braking force for the train. Although still used to this day, I don’t think a brake van would be too far fetched for the time period of this game. I hope this has helped clear things up!

[@coalcountry6795]

Brake vans were more a UK/European thing. Here in the states, they did have the cars with individual brakes like you had said. Later on, air brakes were fitted. You would have a hose you would also connect between each car when you connected them, and a compressor on the locomotive would air up the system, which would release each car's brakes. Also, not only did the brakeman have the caboose, but on some railroads, on their locomotives, they would have a crude shanty on the tender called the "doghouse." That was built so the head end brakeman could ride their, and watch the train behind him. Love some of the looks of them, but would not prefer to ride in one of those, especially on a long trip hahaha.

[@vit.budina]

Maybe you could push a single car of wood with the handcar (in case you run out of firewood), but I'm not sure about the pushing power that one has, I never played the game.

[@Bendigo1]

The hand car has no connections to hook up and has pretty much zero power. But you could use it to go back and forth carrying 5 pieces of wood at a time. in multi-player a few players could get on the hand cart and carry 5 pieces each.

[@callumhardy5098]

Yep! That’s what I did! Pushing one car at a time, just!

[@roccov3614]

That's what I was thinking. Why can't it give you some wood when you chop down a tree?

[@tonypotter3680]

Historically, the brakeman held one of the most danger occupations on the freight train, or anywhere on the railroad, being required to walk atop moving cars and manually apply brakes.

[@jm0lesky]

That and loosing fingers while coupling cars. Back then you could tell how long a brakeman worked on the railroad by how many fingers he had left.

[@OnyxBMW]

The railroad companies also fought both the introduction of the auto-coupler and of air brakes controlled by the conductor specifically because they thought it would cost more money. Eliminating the brakeman was actually one of the best reductions of cost, as they could have literal squads of brakemen running along the top of cars, and no one likes losing fingers, as well as the auto coupler being a lot faster than the link and pin system of before.

[@aliensensation8299]

Speaking towards the whole, "it's a lot of work" too move the 3 and 3 to get it in, Technically speaking, This is the early stages of trains IRL when it comes to the Era, Not everything was made out to plan for the future, Things where hard back then, and one did have to spend a whole 15-20 hour shift to complete the work for that day. So it sort of fits if you look at it from that aspect.

[@alfderbabybenz7092]

You are so right

[@Failer__]

Yeah, I mean, that is the way I play, it's more fun. I don't make loops on stations, l make shuntyards, I have to empty the train, shunt some empty carriages bring the engine to the other end and only then I'm ready to go. :D

[@aliensensation8299]

@@Failer__ Sounds like you know how to work hard to make this work. Im not saying either of the ways are better too play, too each their own. But Hard work makes the choo choo work :D

[@matthamm384]

To be fair, it takes a long time even today on some rail cars. Coupling to a track of 10 rail cars, releasing the brakes, pulling them out of a track, shoving them in a different track, and reapplying the brakes can take easily 30 minutes if not more depending on the specific situation.

[@panther-nk2hn]

I love the smell of labor law violations in the morning.

[@dickie738]

I think they have the pump kart so if you run out of fuel you can get some to get you started again

[@brandonlepley3793]

I'd really like to see the addition of surveying markers for laying track or straight tangent locking.

[@mementomori5580]

If you get Firewood from the depot, you really should take some from each of the 4 storages now so that it will start crafting and filling up more firewood earlier (otherwise you would need to empty 3 storages and when taking from the 4th only then will it start refilling the others).

[@jlwalker2965]

This series is so legendary, I made a playlist just for it.

[@disconnected7843]

Same

[@emuusama9735]

Link?

[@jlwalker2965]

@@emuusama9735 What?

[@justsomeoneincanada7162]

I also did

[@emuusama9735]

@@jlwalker2965 nvm

[@martonwirth2975]

Okay but If you just place a firewood depot next to the logging camp and move 3 inches, and you sell at the value of logging camp->freight depot wich is crazy, like imagine the exploits!

[@altaem9152]

No need to move 3 inches. Works with the logging camp on the opposite side of the tracks.

[@rallymax2]

I was at -$500 and this was my saving grace. I just moved some logs onto a car and moved the car a few inches and then unload it onto the firewood depot other side. I filled up all my wood in my empty Betsy and made a couple of thousand dollars in about ten minutes. Back to blowing cash on cutting down trees!

[@mileschalker2226]

14:30 horses would be more period correct, but they could also add bicycles, like penny farthings, that would be quite fun

[@SylviaRustyFae]

Steam powered cars have existed since the 17th century. The internal combustion engine was developed in 1826. The first production model internal combustion engine powered car was released in 1887; tho such cars had existed for decades prior but were specialty made items. Its entirely in period to have a truck. Heck, that truck being electric is even in period. Prior to the release of the model T; nearly half of all cars sold were electric.

[@ReCrofnead]

@@SylviaRustyFae Yeah, but I doubt that a freight railway in the middle of nowhere would have the precedent or on hand resources to use trucks rather than hand trolleys or horses; a hand trolley is basically foolproof, and horses are far more readily available than motorized vehicles.

[@mileschalker2226]

@@SylviaRustyFae and you are talking about late 18th century / earth 19th century, so you could have steam cars, but the ICE hadn’t been invented yet, and the fact that there are already steam locos means that they should do steam cars.

[@SylviaRustyFae]

@@mileschalker2226 The ICE was invented in 1827... Which is early 19th century >.>

[@mileschalker2226]

@@SylviaRustyFae actually the ICE was made commercially available in 1876, which is late 19th century

[@grantmatthews9745]

“Are you kink shaming?” 😂 Took the words right out of my mouth

[@the21stcenturytrolleydodge31]

"the wound't run between the caboose and the locomotive"-boy you'd be amazed

[@cybertyto]

The funny thing is, yes, they would run between cars and apply brakes to each car (railway brakeman casualty rate back then was very high)

[@ethanschmid4104]

This had a “Gallant Old Engine” feel! If your engine ran out of fuel, and if it’s the only operating steam engine, your railroad would be done for. Your Betsy is a gallant old engine! Awesome video!

[@MilohRhed]

Yeah, no warning from the devs is a little sketchy, the whole firewood being a thing now. It occurred to me that there's a push car. Worst-case scenario: you hook up some train cars to the push car to get firewood.

[@jonkf7548]

You can't even hook up a single wood carto the push car last time I checked.

[@Sixty4_Redstone]

Even if you cant hook up to the cart you can still shunt with it, they both have breaks, just a little more extra work

[@LucasL512]

Well its a push car not a pull car xD

[@pascal2085]

I'd guess that is the risk of playing an early access game. But tbh it was quite obvious that the firewood depot would require a supply at some point. The fuel is one of the most important thing when it comes to powered trains. The Forest got many updates that broke your save file.

[@krijndees]

They fixed it yesterday about 13 hours ago

[@KouuToriProductions]

I recently started playing, and I've spent the last two days straight trying to lay out a roundhouse, firewood/water loop, etc and I have ultra creators block lol. Been awesome watching your vids, you've given me a lot of ideas for my own railroad. Thanks!

[@smudgeboiiii]

This is my favorite series of yours, please keep playing it

[@francisgaertner2611]

Love the series, Keep it up! I also wanted to mention that I personally don't mind the solo vids, you playing the game is all there has to be in terms of entertainment. Putting other people in the video right now is just icing on the cake!

[@davidwise2489]

In pre-airbrake days there were 4-5 brakemen on the train, 1/2 on the front and the rest in the caboose. The engineer would blow the whistle signal the crew to apply/release the brakes. The brakemen would run the tops of the cars.

[@TheCountryLife2010]

From Wiki. A brakeman is a rail transport worker whose original job was to assist the braking of a train by applying brakes on individual wagons. The earliest known use of the term to describe this occupation occurred in 1833.

[@steamenginestudios]

Regarding rescue engines, the Eureka seems like a good candidate for that sort of work. if there was ever a runaway and you had to go find/rescue the missing engine, or if you were out on the line and ran out of firewood, it might be a good idea to have a engine that can be used for search and rescue missions, and, even if it doesn't have the best pulling power, The Eureka has a good top speed when it's running light, and it has a very high fuel capacity, so it could be out on the line for a longer time period, and having a high fuel capacity means it could share some of it's firewood with stranded engines, which makes it a perfect candidate for a search and rescue locomotive.

[@lizzard3699]

13:55 id love to see one of those 4, 6 or 8 wheeled steam wagons :D Theyre super cool! (Made one in scrap mechanic with vanilla parts and glitch welder and now its my favorite creative car xD ) Mayve eventually we may see building options for walls roofs floores and we can make facilities and maybe even roads with cars but obviously cars would be way less effective at load carrying over long distances!

[@jakeytrainspotting1241]

I believe small motor vehicles would have been actually used then, but wouldn't have been very powerful, however they could be used to zip around taking drivers to their trains or crew to places.

[@aidan9411]

As a matter of fact, yes, trucks were only used to carry light goods because suspension sucked back then. They were mainly for delivering produce to stores and sucked at much else. Mostly they were for people moving.

[@rallymax2]

Two things. Put the fuel depot at the log camp so you don’t need to transport it! Put down a crossing and snap the rail to front and back of it. Then hit Left Alt to lock it to 0degrees and keep going. Then delete the crossing. Waaaaaay easier and faster and you can even set a radius. Love the videos. Post lots!

[@atefxf]

Thank you for playing with Dapper!!! We need to see him in your Railroads Videos way more!

[@samuelsalazar4935]

I guess if you dont have any firewood you would use the handcar and carry maybe one tier 1 platform. It´s logical for me, but I don´t play the game so I might be wrong.

[@NiCadHeliPilot]

14:00 1924, Ford Model T. You're welcome. (Perks of growing up around hot rodders what always turned these into T-Buckets.) Also, trucks were a thing back then, but nowhere near as big & beefy as what they are today.

[@aidan9411]

First truck was made in 1896 and the model t was In 1908, but they did not have the suspension to carry heavy loads, so they were not used for heavy freight like coal and oil.

[@Dozav7]

Latest patch has 4 full firewood stacks when you spawn the depot, so no more having to restart!

[@Tahmidjawadsadaf]

The caboose helps to slow down the train when the train is downhill. Logically , if you slow down the train from the front, the train has some good chances derail, if you slow down the train from the back end, the train has some good chances to stay on track.

[@TheLawlessReaper]

Watching your videos helps me come up with ideas for setting up my tracks so thank you.

[@atefxf]

We need more of this!!!! Thank you for uploading this again!

[@fyrelorde]

I find it more enjoyable when you have your usual banter with your friends, but that's just me

[@tuppytheducky]

24:00 yeah a Caboose/Break Van was a thing they used to use before vacuum brakes (brakes on all carriages operated by the driver) were a thing to have additional braking power

[@zombielizard218]

well people aren't completely screwed if they were out of fuel when the update hit. There's that hand pump car thing, you can push 1 car to get wood with it for no fuel. Assuming grade isn't too bad I guess.

[@PotatoDrummer208]

Caboose cars were primarily used for shelter/office space for crew involved in shunting and switching at the rear. They did supply braking power when needed though. As for modern trains, they do brake with every car via an airbrake system. Modern train engines have three brake types; the primary shoe brakes, secondary engine brakes, and slave/monitor brakes in the form of massive electromagnets that slow the axles if they hit a target speed. That saves costs associated with diesel for engine braking and pads for primary braking when they're trying to maintain level speeds.

[@slenderguardian]

24:05 What I have read, the Brakeman did run through all the cars and brake each car. And then later, they added the caboose where the brakeman can brake from the caboose. When Automatic brakes where introduced though, the brakeman's job changed and they now help run the train and sort of a security/maintenance man where they look for any overheated axles, car checks and stowaway checks. Not an expert, this is just what I have read about brakeman.

[@SylviaRustyFae]

Automobiles did indeed exist well before the model T. In fact, electric cars even existed prior to the model T (1908, so almost 1910s). Its just both kinds of automobiles werent very efficient and were more luxury items and also carried higher risks and required lots of technical knowhow to even operate, let alone maintain one. Production automobiles first started appearing in 1887, however even prior to that there were specialty made cars since not long after the internal combustion engine was produced in 1826; just very rare and things of grt novelty.

[@Ortorin]

Your suffering *has* been interesting. Keep up this series!

[@eliaslundstedt5607]

Todays trains use air for their brakes. Every car has brakes, and they require air pressure to release, so their automatic position incase of loss of air pressure, is on. And correct, back in the day, there were brakemen either only braking from the back, or if there were flatcars, in both the US and Europe, running along the cars to deploy brakes as needed for hills.

[@grahambo-42]

@kAN 22:20 Gotta set up arrival and departure tracks so there's a shunter at each location and then the big engines can run the long trains from location to location.

[@TractorsNStuff]

The caboose (Brakeman's car/van is UK) was the crew quarters for the train. Most freight trains of this era had 3 or 4 man crews. An Engineer who ran the locomotive, a fireman who kept the boiler hot and assisted the engineer. A brakeman who's job was to walk the train and turn brakes on or off as needed, to check the load for shifting or loose bindings, etc. And a conductor or another brakeman. A conductor was responsible (and still, to this day) for the loads, every aspect. A conductor in a passenger train, the load being people, was responsible for the loading and unloading of passengers, to collet the tickets, etc. In freight, they made sure loads were secure, in the right position, not too high, or too heavy. But these crew members needed a place to stay too. When stopped or overnighted (some trains had a day shift and night shift) would need a place to sleep, eat, bathroom, etc. Some cabooses are still in use today. The RV of the rails, some maintenance crews still use them.

[@PyroTechitten]

14:30 There were steam traction engines pretty parallel to trains not exactly familiar with the history of them but a steam car of some sort wouldn't be too out of reason.

[@thefaulnt3562]

Yes steam tractors, were compareable (loads of strength KZbin vids) but steam boilers, if tilted too far tend to get damaged (or even explode (Think about swirling boiling water in a pot on the stove. The water that splashes up onto the hot sides instantly boils.)) So a steam tractor would be grade restricted like a train)

[@lucasrampazzo2176]

Republic produced trucks in 1900, people often forget that the model t was the first car to be sold to the masses and that there was cars before that but most of them were for rich guys.

[@dnoginizr4]

A sort of quick fix put a fire wood camp right next to the logging camp then Re-rail a flat bed in the middle load the flat bed on one side and unload at the opposite end and your good you just have to run your wood back to where ever your engine is

[@PCgamestech]

Cant wait to play this game myself

[@alfderbabybenz7092]

It is so cool

[@zacharycossette2822]

Hi, I look up what the cabooses was use for, it was use as a shelter for the crew required in switching and shunting also keeping a lookout for load shifting, damage to equipment and cargo including overheating axles. The cabooses that was use as a shelter and braking was called the brake van.

[@limehuzki]

History buff here! Steam and electric cars were the most common in the era in question though they needed to be re-charged and re filled frequently.... They also broke down every few miles

[@IONATVS]

the brakeman had a few jobs, but yes, back in the day he would actually be expected climb along the outside of the whole length of the train while in motion to access the brakes. Safety laws eventually changed that (like with the pin & chainlink couplers getting replaced by knuckle couplers), but he definitely would use the brakes on the caboose itself, set signal lanterns and wave signal flags so trains running off schedule pre modern comms and block sections would know the train was there and hopefully have a chance to stop, and, most interestingly and importantly for YOU in multiplayer railroads online, would sometimes be required to flip switches into the right position for the next scheduled train as they passed. Again, in the 1800s when safety was “recommended guidelines” and “industry convention.”

[@the_irish_captain7567]

14:27 The model T was around the same time as the Wright Bothers historic first flight, The Chicago World's Fair, and the War of The Currents was just beginning between Thomas Edison & Nikola Tesla. The Model T started production in 1908. The other events were earlier on between the years of 1901-1903.

[@jakeytrainspotting1241]

In britain, they are called brake vans, so I believe they are used for brakes. Modern trains have an air pipe running through that controls the brakes, so releasing or unreleasing the brakes will do the whole train

[@nicholmansgarage3501]

"There's no way they would like... run between all the cars hand cranking them" As a matter of fact, that is exactly what they did. Very dangerous job. Same people were also in charge of coupling cars together. They lost a lot of fingers, if not their lives.

[@stevenmiller279]

On the topic of a caboose/brakeman car/crew car, before the existence of more modern vacuum brakes across all of the cars, it would be the job of a brake man to climb across the cars (while in motion) and start setting handbrakes on the cars themselves. The job was exceptionally dangerous and brakemen often would fall off and get hurt or would die. If that was the case you may not be able to safely set the locomotive brakes and stop the train safely. Then along came George Westinghouse that invented the modern vacuum brake, which subsequently lead the way for the modern air brake systems. He outfitted a locomotive with his brake system, loaded up a bunch of potential investors, and planned an entire day trip, but sometime up the track from the station, there were cattle in the way and the engineer was capable of safely and efficiently atop the train, the investors were so impressed that they didn't even need to see the rest of the demonstration. However most locomotive owners found it cheaper to keep brakemen around, as there was no way to sue for wrongful death and it was cheaper to replace brakemen then it was to outfit their locomotives with the vacuum brake system. It wasn't until later when the Government began to push for modernization and safer work places that they set in requirements for all new locomotives to be built with vacuum brakes. Over time and decommissioning old worn out locomotives and cars, the vacuum brake became the new standard for the industry.

[@burn674]

Love ur videos about this game keep it going

[@not3xist57]

I love this game, i love the way you do it

[@notmuch_23]

Glad I used firewood depots to make easy money, now I have plenty! Also, build a firewood depot at the logging camp, fill it, and then you have a backup source. Point on caboose/brake ban and brakemen: that was a _really_ dangerous job! When a railroad considered hiring a brakeman, they would look at a candidate's hands. The amount of missing fingers correlated to how much experience a brakeman had. A brakeman back then would literally run from car to car adjusting the handbrakes! Then George Westinghouse invented air brakes for trains...

[@captainnemo4594]

Old trains, before they had air breaks, had a caboose that the crew like the conductor and brakemen rode in. The brakeman did use the caboose brakes as well as running along the top to brake each car when necessary.

[@3DPDK]

"Caboose" - American. The early railroad days employed a lot of Swedish and Dutch laborers on the east coast. "caboose" may be American pronunciation of the Dutch word "kombuis" or German word "kabhuse" - both meaning a weather shelter constructed on the deck of a ship. The original cabooses were mostly flat cars with a small house or shed built on to the deck. "Brake Van" - British and European "Crew Car" Australian The jobs of the crew that worked from the caboose were many. They operated the turnouts, coupling and uncoupling cars in sidings, setting car hand breaks when needed. Flagmen were used to signal the engine when positioning to couple or uncouple cars in sidings. They also served as lookouts to monitor coupler slack, load shifts, overheating wheel bearings, dragging debris, and later, to report loss in train brake pneumatic pressure. A break in the air line would leave all the trailing cars, including the caboose, without brakes but go undetected in the engine gauges. There are two brakes; Engine brakes and Train brakes. The latter is the pneumatically controlled brakes on all the cars. As far as I know the crew in the caboose could not apply the train brakes.

[@chasesrailwaylinesrr6447]

Now u can use the sander make a big difference Especially for the eureka

[@jasonh380]

Honestly it’s nice to see more than one person

[@IIvulcanII]

I've noticed areas in the map with wet dirt about the size of a water tower base... may be something to keep an eye on in the future? :)

[@FredFlintstoffel]

Loving this series, i just tried in my own world and two things, turns out the firewood station comes fully loaded with wood and also if you place it just right at the logging camp you can separate two flatcars and continuously load them with logs and unload onto firewood station. Infinite money. Ps the firewood camp needs to have firewood removed from all the stacks in order to start processing the logs. Thank you for all the good videos.

[@vincentweatherly9991]

The break van (guards van in my part of the planet) is a place where a crew (guard for me) can be in. Historically, I do believe they had a hand break that they could apply, I assume it would be so if the train split, there could still be someone to stop the train. Trains these days use air breaks where pipes connected together with hoses along the entire train have pressurised air. If the train ever breaks in 2, the hoses would disconnect, bringing the pressure to 1 atmosphere (normal air pressure). That then applies the breaks so no matter if there’s a failure in the break lines, the breaks apply

[@nightcrawlerau919]

I’m loving this series!!

[@FloridianRat]

You could retail a flat car walk to log area refuel it and walk back

[@callumhardy5098]

The Brake Van or the Brake Wagon is the wagon on the back of most trains with the handbrake on it, even on older steam trains they have all breaking on all cars because they have a vacuum break system with each car connected by a pipe, the steam engine at the front generates vacuum which unlocks the breaks, the guard in the Brake van at the back has a valve that can release the vacuum and apply the brakes.

[@daesmith3274]

HEY KAN!!! Little insight for you bud. The brake men had the hardest, most dangerous, most important job on old rail. In the old days they were in charge of all the car couplings and train braking. They often ran across the tops of cars to get to each cars individually operated brakes. Like ones in this game. Hope this helps man.

[@hydraxusauth3808]

A brakeman is someone who along with the guard, engineer and fireman work a steam train. Break men broke the cars up when there wasn't room for the full length of the train on the unloading track. There is also a difference between a brakeman's car and a caboose. While a caboose is a semi comfortable box for a guard, extra people and small amounts of mail. A brakeman's car is small cold and has only enough room for at most 3 people.

[@Oatmealism]

Modern locomotives have air brake systems that allow them to feed pressurized air to the entire length of the train. Giving the every car accurate brake control that is available to the drivers of the locomotives. IIRC the Brakeman of old time trains did operate the hand brakes along the length of the train, and would climb over the load/cars to get to the hand brake wheel on each car in accordance to the weight of the load and the grade of the slope the train was on.

[@horatioyen256]

the brake van is just to assist the train brakes or if the train splits due to a coupling braking it lets you stop the cars running away down a hill and use modern trains (not even really that modern) have brakes on all carriages that activate when there is no pressure in the brake line, so incase of a coupling brake the train will stop by it's self older trains had pressure activated brakes that only come on when there is pressure in the brake lines but this didn't stop the cars if the brake line broke or had a big leak

[@joshuanethery8262]

My mate and I are planning on 6-9 carriage runs for cordwood to the smelter, pulling the whole train past and backing the first 3 in unloading and dropping them off back at the iron ore drop point, then next 3 back them infront of the first 3 and next 3, or just having another siding set up to leave them in

[@theparapilot4247]

Breakmans car was a spot for the breakmen to go when they were not actively working. Their job would be to run along the train from car to car and apply the handbreaks as needed.

[@TitoRigatoni]

Brakeman* They would apply handbrakes*

[@nicholasdowns3502]

Modern trains have air brakes, but yeah, it seems logical that they would brake from the back also, except that if you brake too heavily from the back on a turn, you have a detrained rail.

[@darkblizzard1756]

Wow, game became even harder, good luck to the new players👍

[@KerbalRocketry]

yeah the caboose break is what you should use down the hill, also putting on train brakes for hill descents. the 3ft gauge means that you can go a lot steeper on grades.

[@yamisniper]

nothing stoping you placing the firewood depot on the log place and where ever either

[@aramisdagaz9]

I've been enjoying this series thus far. I'm not sure if I'll be playing this game as it is because laying rail does look tedious, but I have to admit that once it's down, it's very satisfying to watch. I'll definitely have to keep watching to see what new things the devs add in.

[@tareskisloki8579]

I got caught out by this. I downloaded the game after watching your videos to kill time on nightshifts at work, looked like fun and my ancient laptop could run it. I spent ages playing with the track layout around home base, I didn't notice Betsy's fuel load wasn't replenishing until it was too late. I ran out of fuel before I'd even laid a line to the sawmill.

[@LillyCox777]

Modern trains and even a lot of older trains have vacum breaks. Where the locomotive maintains a vacum pipe running down the whole train, if the vacum fails (i.e. the train has been disconected from the carriges) the breaks will apply

[@marcus9771]

You can use the rerail tool to pick up a cart which has logs loaded (or any other wood stuff) and run to the Firewood depot and rerail the cart too unload it after that you pick up your engine with the same tool and bring it over to the Firewood depot too so you can fill it up whit neu fresh Firewood 14:25 i think that Horses are not a bad idear but there was something around 1930 called Steam Waggon from GB and i think that something like this would fit very nice in the game

[@SylviaRustyFae]

Steam powered automobiles actually existed as early as the 17th century. And by 1887 we had commercially produced internal combustion engine powered cars; tho theyd existed for decades prior to that but only as specialty made items.

[@ObjectGuy]

This is cool and awesome video dude

[@InkAviator]

here in britain we used vacuum braking to control long trains in the 1800s, you connect each car/truck with hoses and you can control the whole thing from the locomotive. Though this is set in the U.S.A. so I'm not sure what would be correct

[@Idaho-Cowboy]

Just got the game thanks to watching kAN and Hyce and I'm watching your old videos. I'm so glad they improved the track laying from this.

[@Jotrain]

I’m loving this series especially as rail fan, Dapper is also a great addition as well! Perhaps you should try to do more train related things in Scrap Mechanic such as a train heist but you have to remember to turn your physics quality down cause they’re prone to lagging.

[@mrfaccilonga629]

DUDE YOUR VIDS ARE THE BEST!

[@awildjared1396]

The way modern brakes work is there's a series of pipes and hoses spanning the whole length of the train and it's filled with pressurized air, then when you want to slow down or stop the engineer has a brake handle which essentially acts as a release valve, he pulls the brake handle and the whole train begins to brake, when he wants to continue rolling, every car should have a tank somewhere on it with pressurized air which would then reconnect to the air line and re pressurize the braking mechanism and release the brakes, as for the brakeman's car, never heard of such a thing, a lot of locomotives in the older days of steam had what looked like a garden shed on the back of the tender called a doghouse, and the head end brakeman would sit in the doghouse (if the locomotive had one) and when the engineer gave the signal on the whistle the brakeman would run from car to car gradually setting handbrakes (trains were actually slow enough to do this in the 1800's) and it wasn't uncommon to have more than one brakeman, typically a head end and a tail end brakeman, and I do think cabooses would be a nice piece of rollingstock to add to the game, maybe a bobber and a full size just for different curve radiuses and train lengths.

[@donaldduck537]

For the iron ore mine you can build a bridge over the ore pile with a switch on both sides

[@thegamingtiger5010]

I was fricked in my world, was halfway too collect wood when i ran out of wood and found out that there where no way for me too get new fire wood... BUT, the newest update have made so it spawns with wood so im good agian!! Well keep up the good work on the videos and the amazing content!

[@Tater_Lord]

Could always use the hand cart and a single freight cart

[@jojobobbubble5688]

Dappers back!! Multiplayer has returned!!

[@callumhardy5098]

I might have to do this! 😂😂 I ran out of firewood just as the new update came, had to push a log car all the way to the logging camp using the handcart! 😂😂 took hours